Destiny 2 Lore - Clovis Bray created the first Exos, but also got them killed. This is how.

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My name is Byf

My name is Byf

Жыл бұрын

Destiny 2's Lore and story tells us about the nature of Clovis Bray's project to create the Exos. The project involved the Vex and the effects of a Darkness statue. This created the stable exos but they were also cursed with the problem of D.E.R, which would be the reason they died. The Journals of Clovis Bray tell us more about the nature of D.E.R and the exos that first suffered from it.
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@Spike2276
@Spike2276 Жыл бұрын
"I'm going to try to get the videos on the journals out before Beyond Light launches" Byf has now figured out Vex time travel technology
@Matthias-pj6th
@Matthias-pj6th Жыл бұрын
In all likelyhood this was recorded when Byf was doing all the other Clovis Bray lore (During the tail end of Shadowkeep) and simply wasn't uploaded at the time for whatever reason.
@InsomniacStephens141
@InsomniacStephens141 Жыл бұрын
@@Matthias-pj6th even though he makes direct references to content only revealed this season
@BasicBraining
@BasicBraining Жыл бұрын
Prolly meant to say Lightfall. I do that a lot too
@beninmalgaard9836
@beninmalgaard9836 Жыл бұрын
I remember a time when I didn't think much of the name Clovis Bray. A brilliant scientist behind the Warminds, the facilities on Eupora and Mars, and the creator of the Exos. Then Beyond Light dropped, and we got huge lore reveals, as well as the story from this season. It's impossible to now think of Clovis without thinking of a egomaniacal mad scientist with a real twisted view of saving humanity. "You now face god-like judgement. May it extend eternally."
@Matthias-pj6th
@Matthias-pj6th Жыл бұрын
Clovis Bray only cared about humanity as a "Narcissistic Supply" (A psychology term used to describe people that a Narcissistic Sociopath keeps around purely to reinforce their own overbloated opinion of themselves), nothing more.
@Dr.Awes0me
@Dr.Awes0me Жыл бұрын
And his connection to Banshee-44
@MunkyX12
@MunkyX12 Жыл бұрын
i was the same, i commented on another video saying that clovis bray or anything linked with bray to me, just playing the game not reading the lore, was just places to go on mars and stuff and now this whole rabbit hole has come to light and its great
@VayaKahvi
@VayaKahvi Жыл бұрын
I originally thought Clovis Bray was in reference to two people having made the corporation, when I learned it was both parts of one person's name I was like "Wow, vanity much."
@FriezaReturns00001
@FriezaReturns00001 Жыл бұрын
You know in some ways Clovis is more closer to the character Anton Chigurh Javier Bardem portraited in No Country for Old Men. Where, his moral compass exists outside of the boundaries of concepts such as things we know i.e. choosing options to distance himself (Clovis in this sense) away from humanity. I'll just quote this from the video: "...he positions himself outside the collective nature that begs for mercy when facing death". (For Clovice this is disregarding such a concept during those cold/heartless experiments). kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4qzdWZ5mZ2Jfrc It isn't that similar in the sense of a coin flip mentality of moral obligation (sociopathic, other voices in your head) versus a scientific research obligations (megalomaniac in comics, etc..) that is willing to go above and beyond "normal" means but in the sense of that Clovis in this case finds: emotions, music, art, things we value to him, are not required or finds it I guess confusing to cling to such things still. (at least how he sees those things are irrelevant in one of Byf's prior videos). Clovis believes that any results of research far outweight death in pretty much any case, it's non-negotiable. QED, Anton and Clovis align in my eyes since they are choosing to take out the nature of the human concepts, they are both out of touch invidiuals with their own messed up compasses.
@Saint_Wolf_
@Saint_Wolf_ Жыл бұрын
Clovis Bray be like "Ana, Ana, over here! I turned myself into an engram! I'm Engram Clovis!"
@MynameisByf
@MynameisByf Жыл бұрын
… Funniest shit I’ve ever seen Red…
@Saint_Wolf_
@Saint_Wolf_ Жыл бұрын
@@MynameisByf I'll take a screenshots of you replying to this and frame it on vacuum sealed bulletproof frame.
@kingofspades76
@kingofspades76 Жыл бұрын
Take my like and leave
@andreproudian7032
@andreproudian7032 Жыл бұрын
Truly the payoff from that joke was worth it.
@cosmiclikesminecraft
@cosmiclikesminecraft Жыл бұрын
“i have decided to hate her” this one line from Clovis is so interesting. It’s such an odd way of phrasing that but so very Clovis in how he does it. Not “I have realized I hate her” or “I hate her from this moment forward” he DECIDED to hate her
@taylorstratford9717
@taylorstratford9717 Жыл бұрын
Could be along the lines he "decided" because she poked at his Pride being the reason why someone he found Mildly Decent died.
@timcal2136
@timcal2136 Жыл бұрын
reminds me a lot of Sheldon from Big Bang Theory
@taylorstratford9717
@taylorstratford9717 Жыл бұрын
@@timcal2136 Why are ALL Scientists in fiction being compared to that Autistic Shit of a Character?
@cosmiclikesminecraft
@cosmiclikesminecraft Жыл бұрын
@@taylorstratford9717 oh that’s totally why. I wasn’t criticizing the line. It just perfectly fits with Clovis’ very clinical view of things
@theredgamer211
@theredgamer211 Жыл бұрын
It seems almost immature or childish
@DCJMS
@DCJMS Жыл бұрын
my favourite thing about Clovis is that shows that The Traveller didn't change humanity in the Golden Age just gave us inspiration & terraformed planets
@25290117
@25290117 Жыл бұрын
Well, the lifespan tripled, so there's that
@peteraustin9057
@peteraustin9057 Жыл бұрын
The golden age is where most human conflict subsided and we got pretty close to a utopia, but clovis proves that while some people act immorally due to their circumstances/environment, others are simply pure evil by nature
@63Limar
@63Limar Жыл бұрын
@@peteraustin9057 well, "by nature" is wrong, more like "as a result of their upbringing/environment".
@eotwkdp
@eotwkdp Жыл бұрын
@@63Limaroh no some people are actually born to be asshole to rest of the whole. I mean like intolerable in sense. I believe both are true but being born to be something is extremely rare barring missing genetic codes or just cells not being healthy enough in critical parts of the mind
@63Limar
@63Limar Жыл бұрын
@@eotwkdp I guess in that sense yes, there may be some genetic abnormalities.
@inquisitorichijou883
@inquisitorichijou883 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that Clovis knew about the different versions of Maya Sundaresh and unknowingly encountered different Mayas.
@Lenutfairy
@Lenutfairy Жыл бұрын
I'm intrigued. Explain? Did simulated versions of herself escape?
@tw1n5nak39
@tw1n5nak39 Жыл бұрын
@@Lenutfairy I believe some versions of her did escape their vex made prison with the assistance of Rasputin, the card where versions of herself that escaped the vex network did so by contacting Rasputin from within the network through some method, there’s a reference to the escape at the end of the insight terminus strike where one version of the ending message will include someone using the sundaresh suffix having accessed the information the vex had on the psion prediction engine (can’t remember the name, might’ve been oxa) this basically means that after their escape from the prison like section of the vex network, maya and the other researchers stared accessing information that the vex had.
@inquisitorichijou883
@inquisitorichijou883 Жыл бұрын
@@tw1n5nak39 As far as I know, Maya and her team found out the Vex created simulated versions of them and helped with their escape from the simulation. And the dialogue at the end of Insight Terminus says that someone with the signature MSund12 (Maya Sundaresh 12) accessed info about the OXA Machine centuries before we killed Kargen there.
@jackgammon1490
@jackgammon1490 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he figures out about the Vex copies of Maya until Entry 12 in the logbook when he's... well, you know....
@Ph0enix7373
@Ph0enix7373 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool if bungie did a show where each episode surrounded a lore entry, like on episode could be about how rhulk became the first deciple, and another could be about the creation of the exos, and the the books of sorrow and so on. It would be a very successful show
@platinumbproductions8108
@platinumbproductions8108 Жыл бұрын
Would be so cool, I’d love to see a episode on oryx savathun and xivu arrath and their beginnings on fundament
@AutiCyrptArch
@AutiCyrptArch Жыл бұрын
Episode name suggestions: The Gardender and The Winnower - "A New Game" Clovis and the Exos - "Genius" Rhulk - "Drowning"
@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong
@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong Жыл бұрын
@@AutiCyrptArch Shin Malphur's story: For Every Thorn a Rose
@MrNoble1997
@MrNoble1997 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean anthology?
@Ph0enix7373
@Ph0enix7373 Жыл бұрын
@@MrNoble1997 it wouldn’t be an anthology because it would be based off of established lore, the black mirror part is more of each episode is a different story, not an anthology
@sdstewart87
@sdstewart87 Жыл бұрын
Can we all just appreciate just HOW AWESOME IT WAS to have the genius that is Stephen Fry doing work on something like Destiny.... Just brilliant. I somehow avoided all the footage and spoilers the first time through and was buzzing when I first heard him in the game
@Asturjgm
@Asturjgm Жыл бұрын
Destiny always had great voice talent, the moment I recognized Shoreh Aghdashloo as Lakshmi-2 I was so happy and her performance was great, you get to hate her just by her inflexion. But also the "not famous" voice actors are great, like Saint and Clovis have the same voice actor, which makes some of this season interactions really funny but is also some great work on his part
@renasauceman
@renasauceman Жыл бұрын
It literally could have been anybody. Just sounds like old science guy.
@puddi8817
@puddi8817 Жыл бұрын
@@Asturjgm another good one is that Caiatl & Holliday are also the same VA, which was IMO hilarious to find out during season of chosen
@sdstewart87
@sdstewart87 Жыл бұрын
@@renasauceman wrong
@sdstewart87
@sdstewart87 Жыл бұрын
@@Asturjgm I recognised her too. Hadn't long rewatched Bones and seen her in a few episodes of that right before Destiny lol
@fallentitan9811
@fallentitan9811 Жыл бұрын
Clovis is legitimately so evil, I’m actually certain Oryx is a better father then him. And maybe even just a less evil person in general.
@12SlimJims
@12SlimJims Жыл бұрын
Really, Oryx and his family cause whole species to go extinct. Basically universal Holocaust genocides.
@outbreakperfected5704
@outbreakperfected5704 Жыл бұрын
You’re not wrong cause while what oryx did was evil it wasn’t driven by emotion it was “logical”
@maskguyfromsailormoon
@maskguyfromsailormoon Жыл бұрын
Holy shit 😂
@cpaul562
@cpaul562 Жыл бұрын
When you’re more evil than the guy who kills galaxies.
@12345abxdefghijk
@12345abxdefghijk Жыл бұрын
Finally, some credit
@TheVet3ran
@TheVet3ran Жыл бұрын
Marathon lore from Byf would be absolutely incredible. Marathon lore is, in my opinion, just as insane and incredible as destiny lore is, with connections between the games enough to drive one mad, even though they are not canonically linked. Descend into darkness, Byf! Do some marathon stuff!
@owentravis9520
@owentravis9520 Жыл бұрын
Another thing to note - when the second half of Clovis' journal was unlocked, it was posted to Bungie's main page, along with audio clips from Elsie the Exo Stranger, hidden in certain highlighted letters in words. Think the actress's name who became Elsie the Exo Stranger is Moira Quirk, the same who does the voice for Orin the Emissary of the Nine?
@mozeytown
@mozeytown Жыл бұрын
Yep. It was Lauren Cohen in D1 but Moira Quirk all through D2. She's also the voice of Karliah in Skyrim, and once you notice the similarities it's impossible to stop hearing them xD
@Firellius
@Firellius Жыл бұрын
Something that piqued my interest in the interactions between Clovis and the Vex is the identity of the Vex. Patternfall strongly suggests the Vex are the product of the Flower Game at the root of Destiny's creation mythos. This also means that the degenerative influence of Clarity, which reduces things to its component parts, gives a unique insight: the Alkahest is what the Flower Game was played with. The purest essence of life.
@jackkarpoe6228
@jackkarpoe6228 Жыл бұрын
All this lore points to Clovis and his corporation essentially being the Destiny equivalent of Cyberpunk’s Arasaka or Blade Runner’s Tyrell/Wallace. It’s creepy af and I love it
@wellwhatdoyouknow7143
@wellwhatdoyouknow7143 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I didn’t even think to compare Braytech to Arasaka but that’s insanely accurate. My first thought was “huh?” but the more I think about it the more similarities I see “Wake the fuck up Guardian, we got a Crypt to burn”
@samvimes9510
@samvimes9510 Жыл бұрын
21:14 I would _love_ if you could go into Marathon lore at some point. Bungie threw references into Halo, but Destiny seems to have an even greater connection. The MIDA Multi-Tool is said to be from another timeline created by the MIDA rebel group, but the MIDA Mini-Tool directly links the two franchises together. Not only does the Mini-Tool's lore entry mention MIDA again (the revolutionary force that overthrew Mars) and battleroids (cyborgs created from the bodies of deceased soldiers), but it directly names Bernard Strauss, the scientist responsible for causing Durandal's rampancy. There are other smaller references (such as Cayde mentioning Pathways into Darkness), but I am fully convinced that Destiny takes place in one of the many alternate timelines of the Marathon universe.
@dinkeycat
@dinkeycat Жыл бұрын
Poor byf said "I'm going to try to get this out before beyond light launches". Like that was almost 3 years ago, my man
@en_demic
@en_demic Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a Clovis-led faction of the Vex in his likeness called “the Simulacra,” bring in some Baudrillard or Deleuze to help theorize this perspective haha.
@manqobashongwe1301
@manqobashongwe1301 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason I love the Clovis Bray series so much is because he's inextricably linked to the lore of the golden age. Can't really give us one without the other.
@JoshRosario310
@JoshRosario310 Жыл бұрын
The depth of Clovis as a character is so fascinating
@ringomandingo1015
@ringomandingo1015 Жыл бұрын
Clovis is a psycho but there is SO much depth that his story brings that I’m infuriated that Bungie doesn’t expand on it in-game! I really wanted to hear him talk about the vision he given from Clarity and establish his purpose/reason for his villainy because he right now he’s a jerk for jerk’s sake.
@Lewisman-wn6zk
@Lewisman-wn6zk Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you cover Marathon lore. It is surprisingly connected with some of the stories explored in Destiny and I think it would be a great thing to dive into.
@lordexohunter558
@lordexohunter558 Жыл бұрын
Clovis is one of the many fictional characters who fall in to the "egotistical genius scientists who are terrible fathers"
@ericconrad8854
@ericconrad8854 Жыл бұрын
I found it really interesting seeing how a copy of him without all the baggage ended up being so good at the same time. Some of the best parts of Destiny is when "fate" is defied.
@yhelloh
@yhelloh Жыл бұрын
28:14 Awesome how much credit you give to others. Thank YOU for making such entertaining content, as per usual. :)
@HadrosaurHero
@HadrosaurHero Жыл бұрын
Thoughts from Clovis thoughts on the Vex 1. Are the vex the perfect form of bomb logic? The peak of cooperation and working towards a higher goal than one individual could achieve. 2. If the Vex became a larger threat, if Clovis isn't destroyed would he be a future uneasy ally for that? It's hard to give him any amount of trust, but his hate of the vex could be useful. 3. Wonder if we'll ever get to see a place like this Vex dominated place. Something further than Nessus in terraforming.
@muninrob
@muninrob Жыл бұрын
There was Mercury & the Infinite Forest
@s-ebbyy841
@s-ebbyy841 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see a forge Star, that’s what’s behind the Europa Vex portal in the Glassway right? A dungeon or exotic missions there would be awesome
@s-ebbyy841
@s-ebbyy841 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see a forge Star, that’s what’s behind the Europa Vex portal in the Glassway right? A dungeon or exotic missions there would be awesome
@muninrob
@muninrob Жыл бұрын
@@s-ebbyy841 I hope, and somehow doubt that the term forge-star is hyperbole - we've seen their planet sized computers. (see above)
@boppler9777
@boppler9777 Жыл бұрын
It’s so cool that you’re continuing this series
@thebagel_lord
@thebagel_lord Жыл бұрын
The more we learn about CB1, the more he sounds like he's been almost lifted right out of the Adeptus Mechanicus
@markojohn480
@markojohn480 Жыл бұрын
im so glad you brought this series back
@bradleyward124
@bradleyward124 Жыл бұрын
Wait.... before beyond light? Byyyyfff the time traveling lore acholar
@thaabyss665
@thaabyss665 Жыл бұрын
I see BYF video I click.
@Cloudfox200
@Cloudfox200 Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely watch Marathon lore videos by you. I watched some in the past but they were not nearly the same quality or thoroughness as yours!
@AdamPortier
@AdamPortier Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the continued and in-depth analysis of the story and lore. I would love to humbly request as a long time Marathon fan that you do even a brief miniseries on the games' story, maybe the next time stuff slows down in Destiny. Those games have some amazing lore and setting which require players to not only do a lot of reading, but also potentially miss things since the story is presented non-linearly and spread across all those terminals. As far as I am aware, no one has done this on KZbin and I think the Marathon community would love the insight and visibility it would bring. Thank you for what you do and continue to do for the fans of these games.
@InsomniacStephens141
@InsomniacStephens141 Жыл бұрын
Ever since seeing the cutscene with his evil face and round glasses, I genuinely think he reminds me of the Dr in Fullmetal Alchemist. If you know you know
@IamDustinuNoob
@IamDustinuNoob Жыл бұрын
Come to think of it…. Yeah he is reminding of “Him” same process using family. Oh God!
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Жыл бұрын
Good grief. I SEE THE RESEMBLENCE!!!!
@Xenronnify
@Xenronnify Жыл бұрын
I forgot Stephen Fry did Clovis's human voice!! God, the particular cadence and accent he does is PERFECT for a supervillain.
@disgruntledbob2812
@disgruntledbob2812 Жыл бұрын
The Saga of Clovis Bray is some very fascinating lore I have to say. Another thing I have to say is PLEASE DO MARATHON LORE that is a great idea thank you :)) Been trying to find a good lore source like this channel for that series for a while
@daviharrington
@daviharrington Жыл бұрын
The two sentences at 18:36 were also the end goals of the Prophet of Truth in Bungie's Halo. He wanted to activate the Rings to kill off all life so he could reseed the galaxy in his own image just like the Forerunners inadvertently did with Humanity. Hence the multiple phrases by Mercy and Truth "This time, none of you will be left behind" and "Now I see why they left you behind". Now it seems to be repeating with Clovis Bray How deep does the Marathon/Halo/Destiny rabbit hole go?
@TerrariaGolem
@TerrariaGolem Жыл бұрын
Mfw the traveler resurrects me, but I have DER
@mastalibenge2721
@mastalibenge2721 Жыл бұрын
I wish the destiny universe had a character like escanor from seven deadly sins, it would be a refreshment from all the damn crying in the seasonal story. Like i want to read some lore and feel inspired not feel depressed
@UncleKaz231
@UncleKaz231 Жыл бұрын
Oh man I hope Clovis doesn’t get killed in a season or something, he deserves to be the main villain to his own expansion
@Just_Q
@Just_Q Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking he becomes a disciple candidate. He's already influenced my the darkness through clarity. And if you count all alien races in destiny you have a disciple from each one and one that are allied with the light. We are just missing a human disciple.
@Landis963
@Landis963 Жыл бұрын
@@Just_Q There was a very convincing reddit theory post that posited that Clovis would be A-OK with a Disciple position (citing his references to his rightful place among a pantheon of gods, and, in his dreams, how readily he abandons the "aphids" to serve their destroyer).
@neokyanyoa8061
@neokyanyoa8061 Жыл бұрын
My guess is that, in Lightfall, Calus is going to be the campaign boss, while Clovis gets to be the raid boss. Unless we get another curveball like Rhulk or Calus gets a phase 2 in the raid, that's where I'm at.
@ryanselle3778
@ryanselle3778 Жыл бұрын
Would definitely watch marathon lore videos great idea byf !
@phnx_tom5400
@phnx_tom5400 Жыл бұрын
Clovis Bray is by far my favourite Character in Destiny. All this Golden Age Lore is absolutely fascinating. I also really like his Voice Actor
@cosmiclikesminecraft
@cosmiclikesminecraft Жыл бұрын
LETS GOOO. I’m so glad your coming back to this series I adore the lore of Clovis. He’s a horrible person but completely fascinating
@steelgriffin7716
@steelgriffin7716 Жыл бұрын
A little bit of a digression, I have to say that it was both touching, and creepy, that Clovis tried to make Elsie's body as close in proportions to her original body as possible. Because, if I'm honest, if you're attracted to the female form... Um...Yea. ALSO: Byf... Uh... Marathon lore would be fantastic. But mindbleeding.
@johnsaints969
@johnsaints969 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the prologue, Pathways into Darkness. ByF might go crazy in the process.
@eotwkdp
@eotwkdp Жыл бұрын
To be fair wouldn’t you want to do that too. I’m not going to half ass the body.
@Levigumba
@Levigumba Жыл бұрын
@@eotwkdp fair. Hell, you could even enhance certain parts of your body
@Turnsky
@Turnsky Жыл бұрын
The thing that nabs my attention is the bit on HOW an exo is made by way of a deep brain scan that ultimately kills the patient. Kinda weird implications if, say... The dead human whose mind was made into an Exo became a guardian. - at least for those who wanna write their own fic, anyway.
@belken117
@belken117 Жыл бұрын
Marathon lore, I will totally listen to that! That game has a lot of story and it's universe feels very elusive as old Scifi novels that keep you diving in for more.
@johnnymiller1129
@johnnymiller1129 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely captivated by clovis' exploration of Velantis.... wish the story went into greater detail.
@robertstevenson883
@robertstevenson883 Жыл бұрын
27:52 Well, I wish you luck with such an ambitious release schedule.
@Xenronnify
@Xenronnify Жыл бұрын
I honestly wonder something too - The Guardians who were Exo in life, how many of them were from that first "batch" of incredibly brave (or foolish, or unwilling) participants Clovis used to 'perfect' the Exo technology? I'd think the Traveler/Ghosts would recognize their attitudes as perfect for Guardian-hood, as it requires a good bit of self-sacrificing tendency.
@dakotaburda5976
@dakotaburda5976 Жыл бұрын
My name is Byf you're the best!
@dylanwheeler6758
@dylanwheeler6758 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, exo mind decay is a logical theory for real life. So much of the brain is subconsciously running the body. Without a body to run, the brain would conclude it is dead. Thats entirely based in science and i love it
@jackgammon1490
@jackgammon1490 Жыл бұрын
Right now I'm interested in Maya Sundaresh and the lore regarding her. Looking forward to your video of Entry 12
@makoredeyes
@makoredeyes Жыл бұрын
Super stoked to find this since I'd just circled around to the older journal entries (separately, then finding the playlist) and was fumbling around for the rest I didn't realize didn't exist! Clovis is fascinating. I'm enjoying studying him. But in the way you put a particularly ugly bug in a jar, then shake it really hard to see what it looks like angry...
@hockeypan8066
@hockeypan8066 Жыл бұрын
Mio Sunderesh seems awfully close to MSUND-12 from that one strike on Nessus 🤔
@taylorstratford9717
@taylorstratford9717 Жыл бұрын
*COUGH*
@TheWunderWaffelShow
@TheWunderWaffelShow Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he pointed that out when the strike came out. During the red war.
@Become-Eggplant
@Become-Eggplant Жыл бұрын
Its a good thing we got Clovis-44, wished they had Banshee appear in Season of the Seraph.
@destiny-theseries
@destiny-theseries Жыл бұрын
The Clovis Bray and family story lines are my favorite of the series.
@CERBERUS_349
@CERBERUS_349 Жыл бұрын
i love your content man. its truly top notch
@slipinoy
@slipinoy Жыл бұрын
In D1 when I'd explore the bray ruins I wanted to know more about the history of their company. Kinda sucks their founder was such a bastard. Guess all Clovis' offspring turned out way better than him, even Alton to Banshee his direct clones
@KelgorothTheFinalShape
@KelgorothTheFinalShape Жыл бұрын
I mean the one who invented SIVA was possibly bad too, I think Ana and Elsie are the only good brays
@TheWunderWaffelShow
@TheWunderWaffelShow Жыл бұрын
@@KelgorothTheFinalShapeand it’s debatable how Ana was before she was a guardian. Rasputin likes her but she’s been attacked by random exos in the lore that recognized her.
@flaccidactyl804
@flaccidactyl804 Жыл бұрын
"Remember that in the description you can find the extra videos" There are no videos in the description... Very helpful...
@SuperTrooperG
@SuperTrooperG Жыл бұрын
Byf, have you ever done a video to explore the symmetries or echoes of the lore between previous bungee games? Like halo, marathon, destiny? If not it would be super interesting to see your thoughts on it! Always love your videos!
@foolishfooligan4437
@foolishfooligan4437 Жыл бұрын
So to my understanding, guardians don't seem to get DER, is that correct or am I mistaken?
@v.rocky111
@v.rocky111 Жыл бұрын
Correct since paracasuality
@Ian1KV
@Ian1KV Жыл бұрын
They actually can! We just die so often that it's NBD.
@MynameisByf
@MynameisByf Жыл бұрын
DER is kept very deliberately vague. It’s not known how long it technically takes and it’s probably for the best. Guardians might have an exception given their constant habit of dying but who knows…
@cheetahofthewind13
@cheetahofthewind13 Жыл бұрын
My theory on DER is it would probably trigger around the time you think you should die of old age so say the final average years for a golden age human is when it would probably triggers if not earlier in rare cases
@atomic_toaster6394
@atomic_toaster6394 Жыл бұрын
I’d assume guardians can’t get DER because they start as an exo while people that became exo were originally human. I think that because the guardian has always been an exo while they are a guardian would mean that their mind isn’t able to realise that it should be in a human body, preventing DER.
@climarathorn
@climarathorn Жыл бұрын
I can't hear Stephen Fry as the Clovis AI without hearing it as an entry from the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy
@ronin9380
@ronin9380 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Great work!
@stevendoty1986
@stevendoty1986 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you
@tomagee420
@tomagee420 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE cover Marathon lore! I just played through the first two games, they're so iconic and the parallels with other Bungie games is really cool to see.
@MarathonTheGamer
@MarathonTheGamer Жыл бұрын
i would LOVE it if you did Marathon lore!
@duckcc73
@duckcc73 Жыл бұрын
I somehow forgot about the information terminals! Thanks for the reminder.
@kriscerosaurus
@kriscerosaurus Жыл бұрын
It must have grated Clovis to no end, seeing himself as the only path to humanity's perfection all while knowing deep down that his genetic code was so flawed. I wonder how much of his transhumanism was fueled by self loathing.
@lDoxology
@lDoxology Жыл бұрын
I love the clovis bray and europa lore. Probably my favorite
@alejandrocarralero2826
@alejandrocarralero2826 Жыл бұрын
I'm seeing the dead space inspiration with the K1 artifact and Clarity being very similar to the Marker in a way
@sinisterplotter6447
@sinisterplotter6447 Жыл бұрын
I am part of that "Gladd math" percentage that loves the lore
@Supernova094
@Supernova094 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling Clovis bray will trigger arrival of Xivu Arath at end of this season by taking control of warsats and wrecking havoc .
@Kojack150
@Kojack150 Жыл бұрын
Or worst.... if that really is rasputin in that exo frame and not clovis hiding and pretending....
@MrTmm97
@MrTmm97 Жыл бұрын
@My name is Byf 1:04 Where is the playlist you mentioned you would link in the description. I don’t see it.
@redingray6226
@redingray6226 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone else noticed he said "before Beyond Light comes out."?
@Landis963
@Landis963 Жыл бұрын
Oh gosh, the B-roll footage! I'd forgotten that the Exo Simulation course stuff was still in the game!
@MrTavrosNitram
@MrTavrosNitram Жыл бұрын
Ive binged mandalores marathon and pathways reviews so many times and still cant wrap my head around it all fully. id love for you to take a crack at them and maybe make some connections to the bungie paraverse as a whole
@BoundlessPLYR
@BoundlessPLYR Жыл бұрын
Please do marathon lore sometime!
@jmojocat1944
@jmojocat1944 Жыл бұрын
It's makes me wonder about Ada-1's story from the Black Armory season. Were they carrying around Vex milk on Earth during the collapse?
@Funnhouse
@Funnhouse Жыл бұрын
Wow you’re almost at a million subscribers 🎉I have been with you since D1 and honestly you’re more important to the community than eververse 😂I said what I said.
@Ash_6614
@Ash_6614 Жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT I HAD JUST RETURNED TO THIS TOPIC A FEW DAYS AGO AND NOW YOU'VE RESUMED THIS SERIES, SERIOUSLY CANNOT WAIT FOR THE MAYA SUNDARESH REVEAL TO BE COVERED
@williammurphy1207
@williammurphy1207 Жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait was that exo from Georgia talking about savathun possessing his body or am I misremembering the story having someone from Georgia chant the hive to earth ?
@KelgorothTheFinalShape
@KelgorothTheFinalShape Жыл бұрын
The exo was from the country, the lore involving hive on earth is the state of Georgia
@williammurphy1207
@williammurphy1207 Жыл бұрын
@@KelgorothTheFinalShape yeah that's what I mean at some point b4 the collapse savathun make a deal with a guy and his family to chant for her and she would help the family out. Like the guy was a human b4 he was an exo and he could be a descendant of the guy that made the deal
@MakutaOfficial
@MakutaOfficial Жыл бұрын
i hope one day we get to visit volantis
@alphtheor.879
@alphtheor.879 Жыл бұрын
Hey Byf ido you have a favorite lore entry or entries? I like the glad things ship (i think), the one that talks from the perspective of a non-guardian seeing a guardian see the dawning decorations for the first time.
@farmil7142
@farmil7142 Жыл бұрын
Hi byf is not possible to have subtitles (even the automatic ones) for the videos?
@blutgang2372
@blutgang2372 Жыл бұрын
I completely forgot about primary ammo bricks until I saw it here again
@Landis963
@Landis963 Жыл бұрын
Did you mean "Lightfall" there at the end? Or was this recorded back in Beyond Light, and just didn't get a slot on the schedule before now?
@Brad-ut1ro
@Brad-ut1ro Жыл бұрын
27:55 For a second I thought, “damn, am I watchin an old video?” Actually had me second guessin myself enough to double check the upload date on the vid. Lol
@Wolficefang
@Wolficefang Жыл бұрын
You mention at 21:40 linking Clovis Bray's experiments in the description, but it isn't there. Could you add it please?
@DragonBornHero
@DragonBornHero Жыл бұрын
Clovis Bray was a narcissistic genius with a superiority complex combined with a severe hero complex
@Dandroid_1
@Dandroid_1 2 ай бұрын
Exos have always been my favourite race. Even back in D1, I was called Durandal, after Marathon c;
@vaughntruesdale2197
@vaughntruesdale2197 Жыл бұрын
27:47 yeah bro, you gotta hurry, or else beyond light will come out and you will have missed the algorithmic content window and fall by the wayside (love the video)
@TheXcizer
@TheXcizer Жыл бұрын
Mr. Zhuk’s story is terifying. Literally my worst possible nightmare
@justinchamberlin4195
@justinchamberlin4195 Жыл бұрын
Sign me up for Marathon lore videos...what a criminally underrated and forgotten game series that is.
@lordtouchmesan3207
@lordtouchmesan3207 Жыл бұрын
Clovis is a dope character, very well written, evil and twisted, but I really like him 🤷🏾‍♂️ tend to like characters like him (Mayuri Kurosuchi from bleach) I'll be one of the minorites in that department, probably lol
@alexbaer455
@alexbaer455 Жыл бұрын
It depends, normal people like well written villains for the quality of the character in the context of the story. That is the majority of people. The minority of people are the ones that like clovis bray 1 because they think he was doing something necessary, I hope those people are the minority
@slipipipi7971
@slipipipi7971 Жыл бұрын
Mayuri actually is a little bit less messed up than clovis lol, at least that guy is 100% on our side clovis is lowkey only on his side he wants to be God
@IIzanagii
@IIzanagii Жыл бұрын
Bro likes Hitler💀
@steelgriffin7716
@steelgriffin7716 Жыл бұрын
An easy man to hate, but an entertaining man to watch. @alexbaer455 is pretty on the money there.
@rapscallion9776
@rapscallion9776 Жыл бұрын
Marathon lore please
@thefoxcreation3580
@thefoxcreation3580 Жыл бұрын
What is the background gameplay? I don't recognize the mission
@whatyousee3225
@whatyousee3225 Жыл бұрын
I'm just happy he gave Elsi that custom, extra.. Modified frame! I'm my book he's a good guy for this specific thing he did
@TheArkeice
@TheArkeice Жыл бұрын
Something I’d like to see is more lore around D.E.R because it’s left vague
@jasonkeely7269
@jasonkeely7269 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that the VEX might be a future evolution of some Bray monstrosity.
@BigSchlog
@BigSchlog Жыл бұрын
I have a strong feeling that at some point, it’ll be revealed to us that all life requires some sort of mixture made of darkness and light to actually being said life in to existence.
@SpikeRazzor
@SpikeRazzor Жыл бұрын
27:51 - Lightfall I think you mean.
@antoineharvey-boudreault5565
@antoineharvey-boudreault5565 Ай бұрын
whats great is all the speudo sceience has some realistic vibe to it
@alaskarii007
@alaskarii007 Жыл бұрын
The vex sure sound like the aliens from blindsight more and more.
Wait for the last one! 👀
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