You know, I had this thought recently. The Darkness- infused Vex mind fluid is needed to maintain the consciousness of the individual being turned into an Exo, and now that we know Darkness is heavily tied to consciousness, personhood, and sense of self that makes a lot of sense. But it is interesting how the delusion that the Exo's went through before the memory wipe process was implemented seems to mirror Hive forced evolution rituals and philosophies and Rhulk's own evolution into a Disciple at the hands of the Witness. Very curious, all of it.
@jamescruz8678 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the title I immediately thought: this is why Exussy is also canon
@zacharystein6490 Жыл бұрын
Get help
@jamescruz8678 Жыл бұрын
@@zacharystein6490 considering the price of therapy the best I can do is being mildly horny on the internet 💀
@astracontritus1209 Жыл бұрын
Ayo? 🤨📸
@mizuki2560 Жыл бұрын
My brother bathed in the light of the traveler, what the hell
@Blaze78x Жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣 🤣
@dominobuchanan-vargas760111 ай бұрын
Dont know why but the Clovis Bray logbooks are my go to comfort read. I always find myself coming back and rereading or relistening to it being told, I guess it’s just that good.
@mukei89956 ай бұрын
me too
@feetmask1136 ай бұрын
@@mukei8995swear it’s lowkey the best
@Phi_AU_ Жыл бұрын
All I want to say is MSUND-12. Loving this little series, Byf! Itching to watch the next one.
@captindo Жыл бұрын
I imagine this disease is something like a death loop a person would undergo while on a heroic dose of magic mushrooms. Going through that for hours is agonizing, but for a life time? This would be a fate worse than death.
@ajb128128 Жыл бұрын
Coming from experience,I don’t think it would be possible to live a life going thru that omg you’re right
@xXx_Regulus_xXx Жыл бұрын
when you put it that way I guess mind uploading would be pretty psychedelic
@Forcer69 Жыл бұрын
I’m just saying. If Exos need to eat could they resort to exo cannibalism, if they got hungry enough?
@smoldoggy1005 Жыл бұрын
Has Drifter ever eaten an Exo frame?
@rohncarver3585 Жыл бұрын
@@smoldoggy1005 probably not
@SymbioteMullet Жыл бұрын
@Rohn Carver want to bet on that?
@gumbo821 Жыл бұрын
Would you eat chunks of plastic and metal?
@smoldoggy1005 Жыл бұрын
@@gumbo821 He claimed he ate Cabal and wanted to eat Vex goop…
@tigrePrankster Жыл бұрын
I have so much vested interest in this series because my hunter is an exo, and I'm a writer, so naturally I wanna make lore for my characters. Thank you for covering the lore behind exos!
@droehnix Жыл бұрын
My warlock is a Exo, I made him look like Bumble Bee from transformers
@tigrePrankster Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!
@LatiloveOmg Жыл бұрын
My warlock is an exo! Her name is eda-3, what's yours??
@tigrePrankster Жыл бұрын
Icon-27!
@onigirls Жыл бұрын
I'm the same with my Exo Warlock! This topic interests me like no other, even though destiny lore is fascinating overall.
@colmukrainec Жыл бұрын
Byf brother I’m BEGGING for the final two parts this series is one of the best and most intriguing by far
@daedalus12569 ай бұрын
When can we expect the next episode? Or are you done making episodes for this series? Also, couldn’t help but think, when that audio log about Elsie’s custom frame was playing, “dang! Elsie was built like before becoming an exo?!”
@jackgammon1490 Жыл бұрын
Excited to hear your thoughts on Entry 12 of Clovis Bray's Logbook. Hands down one of the most unsettling pieces of lore in Destiny imo
@Eldrisaur Жыл бұрын
Every new bit of new info about Clovis Bray just further solidifies how much of a monster he is
@JayFochs1337 Жыл бұрын
14:10 what happened to episode 11 and 12 though?
@wannabememelord4607 Жыл бұрын
9:16 crucial confirmation that Elsie has in fact, always been a baddie
@lostsoul7345 Жыл бұрын
how does that show she is a baddie?
@maday5-019 Жыл бұрын
@@lostsoul7345 her exo body was based on her human one
@Rekkoff Жыл бұрын
And that she was always packing a full bakery. :P
@arsenalxa4421 Жыл бұрын
See, Clovis wasn't all that bad!
@ehoffart529 Жыл бұрын
@@arsenalxa4421 i really hope Clovis didn't personally design her model.
@BrandonBlargSmart Жыл бұрын
Can you do a speculative video about the Exos who seem to break the mold of what we know about Exos? Thinking about Ada-1 & Elsie Bray, who never have been wiped; Banshee-44, who has a failing memory despite technically only getting reset once within the same body; Siddhata Golem & Rasputin, who technically aren’t human brains in Exo bodies, but in the case of Felwinter was still deemed alive enough to be blessed with the Light; and Moss, who is able to share a brain with his Ghost. I feel like the things we “know” about the Exo are incomplete pictures.
@SivaExperiment Жыл бұрын
ada-1 iirc is a different kind of exo. an one of a kind highly experimental exo frame. one that was infused with radiance and BA tech. it is heavily implied that BA tech and radiance was based in the light in some way. much as braytech's exos (and possibly other braytech technologies) are based in the darkness
@SivaExperiment Жыл бұрын
ada's frame is basically the BA's attempt at an exo and its a successful one. though what spurred on BA's development of an exo i do not recall
@peteraustin9057 Жыл бұрын
@@SivaExperiment Helga Rasmussen worked on the exo project with clovis for a while before leaving due to ethical objections (what a surprise), so that's at least where the black armory got the tech/experience from. As for why they had a body ready to go when the pyramids showed up, idk. An interesting detail about ada 1 is that Adelaide meyrin, who became ada 1, was a kid when she died during the collapse and was put into the exo body as an emergency. If the exo byf mentioned in this video had a hard time because her walk was different, I can't imagine how weird it would have been for ada 1 to wake up with a child brain in an adult body
@SivaExperiment Жыл бұрын
@@peteraustin9057 ah ok that makes sense i always wondered how they got the know how. also it was stated or heavily implied that the exo frame was basicaly a mobile forge correct? and the obsidian accelerator was a major component in it. i think the BA had a very strong suspicion that something would happen causing some form of extinction.
@peteraustin9057 Жыл бұрын
@Siva Experiment 42.9320 You're right, the mobile forge was the reason they built the exo body. I forgot about that
@advocatus_ravioli Жыл бұрын
Great Series Byf - Please continue this!! I'm so eager to see the next episodes. I literally devoured all the Clovis Bray Journals after Beyond Light's Launch, but I have forgotten some parts of it and I think I am missing some bigger perspective on certain areas of the journals. It's awesome to see your BIG Lore-Horizon dissecting the individual lore parts of Clovis Bray. Thank you. Please continue.
@tairgoth Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how similar the process of becoming an exo is to bring resurrected as a guardian to include the loss of memories
@MelancholicBodhisattva Жыл бұрын
You know, I had that thought too! It seems the Traveler might have taken some inspiration from Rasputin and his Seraphs along with Clovis and the Exo's. Very interesting stuff.
@tairgoth Жыл бұрын
@@MelancholicBodhisattva or that it's a system our universe due to the presence of of both the light in the guardians and the darkness in clarity control
@BurnerFinger1 Жыл бұрын
This made me think, does becoming a guardian mean you go from Exo-1 to Exo-2? It wipes your memories right?
@tairgoth Жыл бұрын
@@BurnerFinger1 what would be weirder yet is you've already lost your real memory so does that count as your lost memory or do you then lose your exo personality
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Жыл бұрын
@@BurnerFinger1 Exos retain their memories even after becoming a guardian.
@dawnmoore8388 Жыл бұрын
This was a great video. You've touched on and vaguely confirmed my thoughts on Clovis, the Exos and Maya S.. I'm looking forward to your forthcoming videos.
@jasonkeely7269 Жыл бұрын
This f@
@aarongeorge4885 Жыл бұрын
Some of the talk about memory wipes is unusually similar to Guardians inability to remember anything from the past.
@evan_elric Жыл бұрын
lore daddy, please may I have some more? especially with the revelations about Maya Sundaresh on neomuna last season
@scottmccrea1873 Жыл бұрын
Clovis' Journal is the best science fiction I've read in at least a decade. Maybe longer.
@stephen90944 Жыл бұрын
I see a Byf video. I click a Byf video.
@gabrielgalasso4899 Жыл бұрын
We are simple men
@stephen90944 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielgalasso4899 Maybe, but cultured men as well, thanks to Byf. :P
@gabrielgalasso4899 Жыл бұрын
@@stephen90944 indeed
@esaigarcia1002 Жыл бұрын
that outro always gives me goose bumped i hope that it never fades thank you byf
@NutsFrame Жыл бұрын
Need all byf's content in spotify
@cease-desist Жыл бұрын
That was very grim, kinda forgot this was Destiny 2 for a second
@collierchipman Жыл бұрын
Love your lore videos! Keep up the good work
@derigel9783 Жыл бұрын
Byyyyyfff! I where is the next paaaaaart?
@tysonkrunek4132 Жыл бұрын
That you’re also a JuJu user makes me smile
@robertwilliams4579 Жыл бұрын
There’s a story in this seasons trial armor not sure if you have covered it what happened there I think you would find some things interesting going on there
@79bigcat Жыл бұрын
How old was that B-roll? There are white ammo bricks. Anyway, I guess the process of robotic immortality was quite vexing, wouldn't you say?
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Жыл бұрын
Beyond Light, pre-Season of The Lost. Enough said.
@burnin8able Жыл бұрын
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 it must be just after beyond light launched, as Byf is using the GL from season of the dawn. that was sunset pretty soon after beyond light released.
@KnockOffGandalf8 ай бұрын
Is there a continuation to this series?
@Landis963 Жыл бұрын
Spoilers below the jump: M. Sundaresh's line about being a soul sent to deceive the inmates of Hell can also be seen as a tip of the hand in a way.
@420PeterGriffin8 ай бұрын
My Titan exo bout to go crazy on Elise Bray.
@KLASSRE12 Жыл бұрын
Top 10 Destiny content right here folks
@demonsorrows Жыл бұрын
"Darkness absorbs. all and on. While the light repels, drives away the darkness? The act in vain. You can't grasp a shadow. The brighter you shine, the more pronounced the silhouette. Its shape, influence, existence transforms and cuts deep like a song that burrows to the soul. The enemy of my enemy, o guardian mine. That is your failure. The memories of my enemy is my immortality."
@wokemoralist Жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think that Clovis fella might not be too good of a guy...
@BLAKEBETTAHFIT9 ай бұрын
Pleaseeeee finish series
@JayFochs1337 Жыл бұрын
So I finally (vaguely) know who MSund12 is 😂
@gumbo821 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if exos go through any issues like necrons do in 40k. Exo flayed ones would be funny.
@anotter321 Жыл бұрын
Considering Necron Flayed ones, I'd rather avoid that.
@eotwkdp Жыл бұрын
Sweet Jesus that’s awesome to think about
@burnin8able Жыл бұрын
well, considering how long it took necrons to start developing corruption like the flayer virus and the destroyer virus, I guess we'll have to just wait another 59 million years to find out, won't we?
@venomgames1077 Жыл бұрын
Byf mentioned Integrin and I actually pulled out my college bio notes and looked into what those are, I think I figured out what was happening to Clovis (maybe)
@grzetim Жыл бұрын
Byf Lightfall lore dives incoming? Yes please!
@austingoodman2177 Жыл бұрын
"Expect to see more things from the collector's edition of Lightfall" _Calus_ 👏 _Milk_ 👏
@Phi_AU_ Жыл бұрын
Ghaul Hell in a Cell!
@austingoodman2177 Жыл бұрын
@@Phi_AU_ Caiatl fantasy football league
@S3BAST1AN696 Жыл бұрын
Wait what happened next, there are no more episode wtf!!!! I need to know!!!!!
@Dolat1984 Жыл бұрын
Lore daddy vids are the best
@chaosofmind Жыл бұрын
ooo new byf video, love it
@JPman7616 ай бұрын
Are we gonna get episode 11 or 12?
@jnavarra Жыл бұрын
Why does Mia-9 sound like Elsie's new voice actress?
@francesconarvaez20877 ай бұрын
I need continuation
@Kayla-xq5tf Жыл бұрын
Is this also a hardcover book that I can get?
@ronin9380 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@Embrace69247 Жыл бұрын
I wonder. Does a ghost cure the brain rejection of an exo guardian? More so, how has Elsie a lightless exo managed to avoid the rejection of the custom exo body.
@peteraustin9057 Жыл бұрын
Idk if there's official lore on it, but I'd imagine there's something with Elsie jumping between timelines that prevents her from needing reboots
@ehoffart529 Жыл бұрын
I'd imagine that rezing would prevent it. Since you're rezzed with no memories that might clear up a lot of the DER issues. I'm guessing all the exo guardians went through their wipes pre rez.
@xXx_Regulus_xXx Жыл бұрын
human guardians don't age so I imagine exo guardians lose at least some of the downsides, though I strongly suspect it would be possible for an exo guardian to go through a reboot that his/her ghost couldn't undo
@Lightna Жыл бұрын
Yes, because an exo guardian will have no past self to reference to. The body is as natural to them as anything. Now, for how many times they've been rebooted prior, though I think it gets murky. What I know about rebooting is that it's not a mind wipe like people may think. It's more like identifying what started the onset of DER and locking part of the exomind from interacting with the rest of the body. While I do not know what this would mean for exo guardians with high reboot numbers, I don't think that if someone like Banshee was risen as a guardian would be capable of remembering things well. Not because of the light doing its thing, just because of how the reboot process works and I do not think the light would just undo those processes. But then again, maybe it would. We just don't know.
@justinchamberlin4195 Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that Exos are memory-wiped upon transfer, as Guardians are memory-wiped when first resurrected, but it's Exo Guardians that tend to remember small things like their own names. Either way, it seems like the whole "I'm a theoretically immortal being with magic powers" causes "I'm in a robot body" to take a back seat and not induce D.E.R. Ghosts' ability to heal mental and emotional trauma seems very minimal compared to their ability to repair physical damage - the Drifter and his crew that were marooned on that weird Darkness-infused planet slowly went insane the whole time they were there, which was not fixed despite their Ghosts certainly being able to revive them from freezing to death and such. In a similar vein, the shock of being a time-traveler many times over probably makes being a robot seem unimportant to Elsie. And then she learns powers of Darkness, which has a strong association with memory and surely further helps cement her sense of self and avoid D.E.R.
@helloyt4799 Жыл бұрын
mia sunderesh has gotta be "msund-12" from that one strike
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Жыл бұрын
She is. She found OXA
@helloyt4799 Жыл бұрын
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 what about otzot?
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Жыл бұрын
@@helloyt4799 Them too. And when you learn that OXA is linked to Taox. Mind blowing.
@WhiteOrb Жыл бұрын
I love the Journals of Clovis Bray! :D
@kratosdad1760 Жыл бұрын
Thats incredible, so they need human parts even though theyre in a robot body so they feel human, thats incredible i cannot believe this, this lore is so interesting
@valiantfox2022 Жыл бұрын
so, episode 11, when will it come?
@valiantfox2022 Жыл бұрын
aaaand i'm sorry i asked, did not know COVID did its thing
@lightningking910 Жыл бұрын
i’m a simple man. i see exo lore i click on it.
@TurtlGal17 ай бұрын
Waiting on part 11 and 12 a year later
@trevorromein148 ай бұрын
still here hoping for epidoes 11 and 12 😅
@danielduffee2279 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love those mind virii
@ebzdawka5619 Жыл бұрын
Alright I need a video on that finale …….
@SulkingPikachu1 Жыл бұрын
When can we expect the rest of the videos?
@cardinalthewarden888 Жыл бұрын
Good old days of primary ammo drops
@subdemon. Жыл бұрын
Some of this lore could easily be used in the game SOMA: copies of peoples brain scans being put in robots that have to simulate human needs.
@zer0patience1018 ай бұрын
part 11?
@RarePotions Жыл бұрын
Man.. this really makes me wish I could go back and customize the look of my Exo Guardian that I made so long ago... Also, let us Hunters take our helmets off but keep our cloak hood up, like... well... you know who. 😅
@jordanator7199 Жыл бұрын
It's weird seeing primary ammo bricks again lmao
@InVinceable17 Жыл бұрын
Do you think post final shape we'll find out that we created the vex in a weird time loop thing? 🤔
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Жыл бұрын
That'd be so mind blowing.
@LilHaze117 Жыл бұрын
I've thought this from the jump, what a choice of biology (bipedal) and even facial structure to a species that's essentially supposed to be goo. I mean, there's a lot of design choices that could have been made before a universally expanding organism decides that its favourite form is that of a humans.
@Cafinebiased Жыл бұрын
So wait does ADA-1 not suffer from D.E.R? How old is she? Is she a better version of exo?
@voltus20 Жыл бұрын
Knowing that Ada had a unique prototype exo body that doesn't use Alkahest, but the light based obsidian resonance the black armory discovered, it's quite possible she isn't affected by the same side effects. She was pretty young when she was made an exo, something between 9/14, i'm pretty sure her age is mentioned at some point in the black armory papers lore, but i can't remember the exact age. That was right before the collapse happened, so she's hundreds of years old by now, maybe pushing the thousands, as we don't know how much time passed since the collapse until nowadays.
@eotwkdp Жыл бұрын
I believe exo bodies are built upon quality. AdA-1 seems like one who would not want such a fate and create a body before hand. Imagine carving a statue compared to the free statues being giving out
@CardinalDoctor Жыл бұрын
I think it wasn’t actually Mr. Miller telling Clovis he was doing good work.
@alexramsden8775 Жыл бұрын
did he post the next video in this series?
@Kaldranxt Жыл бұрын
All of my characters are Exo's so I am loving all this lore about them, Clovis is a bastard who deserves the worst but it's still an amazing case study
@drewleer7854 Жыл бұрын
Can you cover the continuation of the stories from the trials weapons?
@MLGZlayer Жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@IainG10 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Mr Miller was eventually fully absorbed into the Vex Network....?
@jackeag4295 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what clovis thought when the first exos started being resurrected by the traveller
@wmad202 Жыл бұрын
Clovis was dormant; he only reawakened after we completed the Deep Stone Crypt raid
@Emrirwastaken Жыл бұрын
@@wmad202 thats the crypt ai copy of his mind, different from clovis himself (now become banshee-44)
@wmad202 Жыл бұрын
@@Emrirwastaken Right, but since that's all that remains of the "original" pre-Collapse Clovis, seeing as Banshee is practically a completely new person, my point still stands.
@chasbar6890 Жыл бұрын
this feels like a re upload
@radarhead823 ай бұрын
Whatever happened to turn the Sundaresh that was horrified at the torture of exos and told Clovis he was delusional to his face, into the one that fancies herself some kind of benevolent dictator controlling people agianst their will? I know the Veil did something but god Echoes left so much to be desired.
@dj-_-bussard4038 Жыл бұрын
Random thought. is Clovis and his work why the vex exists?
@KAC710 Жыл бұрын
Why haven't all the Exo's failed to DER if none have been reset since the collapse? Is this just a "because video games" thing, or is/was resetting for something other than DER (that was presumably fixed at some point)?
@Emrirwastaken Жыл бұрын
Maybe getting rezzed was a reset? Or something to do with the light and the rezz memory wipe
@bronzeedge8307 Жыл бұрын
How do they Digest the food they eat Byf?
@joshuawatkins1417 Жыл бұрын
Love your content but it is obvious that everyone is having a content drought and are waiting for the expansion pray it doesn't get pushed . Again always a fan and love your content FYI your hive movie is still my favorite KZbin slash lore movie
@ismorezro Жыл бұрын
sooo is there a clovis harpy out there??
@terminatorprogaming8163 Жыл бұрын
Wait I thought primary ammo was removed in beyond light but I def saw bricks in the vid
@sayray3233 Жыл бұрын
That’s because this gameplay was from a long time ago, since he’s still got the empowered melee and not using touch of flame for his solar nades this is from before Season of The Haunted but also since there are primary ammo bricks this is before Season of The Lost😋
@terminatorprogaming8163 Жыл бұрын
@@sayray3233 oh I remembered wrong then, I thought the bricks were removed w beyond light. I guess not
@heliozaiya Жыл бұрын
Don’t let this video distract you from the fact that Atraks-1 is a female Exo Eliksni, and quite fertile.
@epsilondelta2967 Жыл бұрын
My disgust: calamitous.
@RDR911 Жыл бұрын
My arousal: activated.
@KevlarCurt Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Жыл бұрын
Still not smashing the Robo Spider. What will Eido think when she hears of this?
@cpaul562 Жыл бұрын
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 she would probably be disgusted with the guardian in question and interested in how that would even work.
@Tairngire-rb7te2 ай бұрын
The Dare." -A Lesser Cade cadet.
@daGama1915 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the earlier process of becoming an exo mirrors transition?
@Jaydee8652 Жыл бұрын
The language used seems to invoke that. Also there’s something very sad about death by body dysphoria.
@jakalaka223 Жыл бұрын
What if Clovis invented ghosts? Exos and guardians seem to both have that memory wipe
@emergingloki Жыл бұрын
So, when rebooted an exo has no access to its former lives memories. So, when first resurrected a guardian has no acces to its former lives memories..... Just a thought.......
@wezzy9437 Жыл бұрын
Byf, you know why we're here. We need the lore video on Calus breastfeeding caital.
@fotu_zero Жыл бұрын
I forget to eat all the time these exos ain't special
@Xenronnify Жыл бұрын
Clovis I sure was a humongous WAD. Glad he got deleted, even if it was only a copy.
@DustinDIY Жыл бұрын
Msund? As in msund12?
@Folfah Жыл бұрын
Last vid till i cant watch due to spoilers. Idk why people just cant be patient
@ThatGuyYouveKnown Жыл бұрын
when you finish the clovis story you should compile tem all into 1 vid lol
@namelessnames7406 Жыл бұрын
Bro this footage is old. Still got the primary ammo drops
@StolenInsanity Жыл бұрын
Spin foil hat time: what if Clovis is the Vex or created the Vex?
@totallyturtle199 Жыл бұрын
Yo byf love the lore vids man keep it up mack love the raid one is a good