Destiny 2 Lore - Clovis Bray Found the Darkness on Europa! This is what he tried use it for...

[@chasm616]

"I have always harbored a wariness towards women." - Clovis Bray, Epic Gamer

[@oppenthum4875]

Truly a wise man

[@gamer65688]

It is confirmed that a Gamer will bring about an End of the World scenario. Darkness truly is based.

[@zeche8477]

Damn what a gamer

[@joemama9778]

This comment section makes me want to fill my lungs with water

[@euruskreacatoa2370]

@@joemama9778 Joe mama

[@shingen012]

Clovis seeing that the Avatar of the Winnower is a veiled woman: "Dammit, I'm no good with women. This is clearly meant to fuck with me, specifically."

[@mitchelldondlinger1876]

“So... uh... what school do you go to?”

[@lolosh99]

Well… now we know it’s neither an “avatar of the winnower” or a “woman”

[@robert2german]

I wouldn’t mind the Athrys’s Embrace lore and Eramis lore being rolled into one video.

[@austinevans1703]

agreed

[@ahmadkhalil6910]

Same would flow well together

[@therewillbefire1833]

They were a couple, only right to do a video on both.

[@wellbornthrower596]

Agreed

[@acubicsnake1630]

Agreed

[@legendofacrius372]

The Darkness giving humanity the knowledge to build Exo was a real nice move.

[@MichaelMiller-bs3tz]

The question being..."Why?" My personal opinion, Elisabeth Bray works for the Darkness.

[@kamanira]

@@MichaelMiller-bs3tz Considering the Dark Future exists, where she was actively fighting the Darkness... I doubt that.

[@MichaelMiller-bs3tz]

@@kamanira The Dark future lore is a story that is being narrated by Elizabeth herself. A story can be true or false.

[@davonhenry8645]

I think there is lore where the Traveler talks to Clovis and implies that it is what gave him that knowledge. Might be off though.

[@satyamkanwar133]

Giving it to humanity was a great move but to Clovis was a bad one

[@LightningNC]

Even though I've been frustrated with how Destiny has (or hasn't really) told its story over the years, I always appreciate that they go for such high concept writing, and that they never dumb things down or sacrifice a complex concept when that complexity is where all of the interesting bits are.

[@basblob]

If this season is any indication hopefully both will soon be true going forward!

[@seb5542]

I wouldn't call it concept writing seen as it is it's actual story (I'm using story as a general term here).

[@LightningNC]

@@seb5542 I just mean that the subject of the writing is high-concept stuff.

[@seb5542]

@@LightningNC ahh ok i see, I don't know why i thought you meant it in the way I thought of it at first glance sorry lol. I definitely agree.

[@Jagrofes]

Agreed. The excerpt at 4:45 about women is nice to see for someone with a background in cell biology and genetics. I appreciate how Clovis’ description of women involves biology includes X-inactivation. For female mammals, one of the X-chromosomes at random is inactivated to prevent excess expression of the genes of the X chromosome. It makes women genetically stripy in a sense, since about half of their X-chromosomes will express their fathers genetics, and the other half their mothers. Its why tortoise shell and calico cats are all female.

[@frills333]

Clovis is that meme of a wojak with the horrifically inflated brain that he’s sitting on as a throne.

[@orangwutang7737]

I feel like the darkness creating exos (Elsie) was a way of enacting the sword logic on itself. She is working to undermine its every action; so to me it’s something essentially born of darkness, stripping away the weaker parts of the darkness from itself and therefore making it stronger

[@vorpalweapon4814]

1000 iq play right there from the darkness sharpening the metaphorical blade with the metaphorical grindstone it created.

[@NorraProtoGen]

Handing us the knife to stab them on the back

[@walrideralp6275]

Byf: "Part 5 of Clovis Bray's journal reads as follows-" Land Rover Add: *"Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh-"*

[@danzydan2479]

I got "50-70% off retail price". l wonder if he was happy to get the discounts? Lol.

[@gjallahorn6789]

I got a Playstation add

[@storyseeker6028]

I’d love more Erimis personally, she’s a cool character and I really want her story to continue later in destiny (aka her breaking out of the ice)

[@sunshotwithanornament2475]

I too a she was just shafted in potential during beyond light I love her character and the way she acted how she took things on.

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

She'll probably become a raid or dungeon boss in the future.

[@zebrastripe665]

When you got to the jargon-heavy part, I was super impressed with Bungie's writing team. How do they do it? Also I feel this better highlights your point of villain vs antagonist. Caiatl is clearly not an ally but definitely not evil either, whereas Clovis is clearly an evil POS and definitely a villain even though Clovis AI kind of helped us.

[@bushsbakedbeans3378]

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. The lore writers at bungie take at least 60mg of adderall and a whole tab of acid before they get to typing😂

[@pimpernel666]

Yes to Eramis lore, please. Don’t believe her to be dead and that she will come back at some point. We didn’t kill her at the end and postulating that the Darkness was saving her for something further.

[@danbrus9360]

Ill drink to this

[@mussolinietsu]

Or a real twist, she becomes the first fallen guardian. Seasonal themes are this "old enemies now become friends" thing

[@pimpernel666]

@@mussolinietsu Boy, I bet that would sour our relationship with Mithrax just a touch!

[@MarkEMarcc]

Well this aged like fine wine

[@aguythatlikespuns]

" "That Skrank gang is still a threat. Heh heh heh heh. Gang gang." -Commander Zavala " - Raiden891 1 month ago

[@jefferymosdell2490]

Make sure you let Martin know how much I appreciate his work on the TSLAYP videos. Not the community, me. Just me. There is only me.

[@illuvitarv5]

Lmao these lore entries sound like the author said "yo hand me the thesaurus"

[@vorpalweapon4814]

"oh crap we got write a smart guy uhh what does a smart person sound like?"

[@GeneralBattuta]

Bud I don't need a thesaurus

[@redrenegade7724]

@@vorpalweapon4814 Since clovis is a god complex level narcissist he probably puts a lot of effort into sounding smart - so this could be his character's train of thought as well.

[@nacho2920]

What’s a thesaurus?

[@GeneralBattuta]

@@nacho2920 It's a dinosaur

[@Surrealiantx]

I’m curious to see how Banshee falls in place with all this. His memory is messed up, and he’s Clovis Bray. That being said, I wonder how Elisabeth would react to seeing Banshee in the tower if she ever goes to the tower in the future. Would love to hear some insight on Banshee, Clovis, Elsie, and Ana.

[@shinmalphur2734]

“Greetings guardians” Aw yeah, pour that smooth honey in my ears

[@Cumbercuke]

"Am I out of touch? No, It's the women who are wrong" -Clovis Bray

[@Jake-mi3bj]

I mean lol is he really wrong hahaha 😅

[@lolosh99]

Real LULE

[@riskrunner4532]

Since I was made by braytech technically I'm Clovis's son gun

[@quemeveswey5123]

You were?

[@riskrunner4532]

@@quemeveswey5123 I was in the cosmodrone and my lore card is structured similar to braytech weapons and I have a warmind ornament as well

[@hremlynnthegremlin]

@@riskrunner4532 I love how you refer to the gun as "I" it's hilarious to me :D

[@quemeveswey5123]

@@riskrunner4532 that’s pretty cool

[@riskrunner4532]

@@hremlynnthegremlin I mean I am the gun

[@ginghinaandrei5013]

Hears "grandmother hypothesis": Huh. I recall reading about it for the evolutionary psychology course in college. Feels nice. Also the philosophical zombie.

[@Epsilon7100]

Thank you Darkness. All my characters can be exos because of you

[@ProtoMario]

I've had 4 successful GM's and 2 failed from LFG.

[@whatyoulookinfor]

LFG is always so hit and miss, I’ve had a great session on Wednesday with like 7 clears and then a horrible one on Thursday with only 1 or two.

[@BlackKnightOfTheWind]

I think I have a theory on why the Darkness seems to be invested in Clovis' Exo project: based on everything we know about the Darkness, from its connections to the Hive, the Vex, and the Taken, to the way it communicates with others (such as Cayde seeming to encounter it while it possessed the corpse of a Fallen Captain, to it communicating with us by using our face and voice as well as the voices of others, to it creating the Nightmares in the image of our enemies, to it using the Locus Of Communion to seemingly interact with Calus), I believe that the being that we know as the Darkness/the Winnower has no physical form of its own and it wants one. The Final Shape isn't just for the universe, it is for the Darkness as well.

[@nayaleezy]

the clovis bray + exo + darkness storyline is fascinating ♥️

[@WhenToastersAttack]

It’s kinda funny, I thought the lore of the Cabal was a break from the lore of Clovis Bray.

[@degummybear]

Life is just a break from death.

[@eny968]

As someone who had to take neurology classes for my degree, the neuro talk is extremely well written and is en part with what I learned

[@brycej68]

There is no video that you shouldn’t make. The more content the better. Thank you for the work!

[@nightmarechambers359]

One of my favorite storylines. Always appreciate what you do.

[@williamwren9069]

Totally want an athrys’s embrace video!

[@vinzor0533]

Stop it. I need now my whole Sunday just to catch up on Lore. Why do I need to do this... Thank you Byf

[@AlphaThrone]

When talking about the "precursor found on Luna" I think Clovis Bray is refering to another Darkness orb that messed up the K1 crew and then was sealed on The Anomaly map. In the Clarity Control room in the DSC, there's little rooms you can enter, I believe it's the room on the right that features another one of these orbs. I'm pretty sure this is a different orb to the one the K1 crew found as that one was sealed in The Anomaly map, and Rasputin dropped a WARSAT on a titan that once tried to open it, implying there's still something inside.

[@truekurayami]

I would like to see another video on Erimis. Your lore videos are very interesting and it is nice to get to these pieces of lore and the speculation that comes when some of the content is no longer available to newer players like myself, or not currently available because challenges haven't been completed.

[@oliverjr73]

I didn't watch the video, but listened to it while making dinner. I was enthralled. Fantastic.

[@GenMVeers]

7:12 "I lobbied the ISO..." 😅, a good one! *ISO* = The International Organization for Standardization (/ˈaɪɛsoʊ/). *Trivia:* _ISO_ is *not* an acronym. _ISO_ is derived from the Greek word _isos_ (ίσος, meaning "equal"). Whatever the country, whatever the language, the short form of the name is _always_ ISO. (The three *official languages of the ISO* are English, French, and Russian.)

[@mylesfrost335]

intresting didnt know that

[@CanYouHackett97]

Love these Clovis Bray lore videos. Honestly, the story with Clovis Bray and the creation of the Exos are really interesting and the best story in Beyond Light. Eramis is okay, the Darkness was kinda interesting (wish more happened), but learning about the Exos and Clovis Bray is super interesting. His experience with the Darkness all the way back in the Golden Age is really intriguing and I hope they continue that part of the story in a great way.

[@laowei1611]

Elizabeth trying to undo the work of Darkness by trying to convince Guardians to wield it "for a good purpose" is probably what Darkness wanted in the first place. She is no obstacle, she is a catalyst.

[@Peterlovesguitar]

Love all your videos! This one was especially interesting because I study psychology. I appreciate how you relate the intellectual and complex stories of destiny to more meaningful contexts. Keep producing and we will keep liking.

[@bible91]

I hate how the main thing I got out of this is that Clovis was the cliche nerd: Massively big, girthy, veiny, thonkin’ brain....but no bitches on his barrel.

[@TheDjflawless17]

Great vid brother well done with all those huge words was no way i was gonna read and understand that without your explanation thanks again for all your hard work

[@whyechoecho]

Yes! Another video on Eramis would be lovely

[@moriartyvonlapdance6514]

Absolutely yes to another video on Eramis. I feel like she's such a big character in the overall universe but gets very little love.

[@Sherble_Incarnate]

More lore videos = good thing As long as they're accurate. I love listening to these videos at work.

[@K1NGD0M]

Just finished Deep Stone Crypt for the first time today so this is the perfect video to watch after it :D

[@glutenguardian]

Amazing video, and content in general. To answer Eramis question: yes to finishing her lore :)

[@seedlesspumpkin3654]

I’m down for any lore video by you byf, your videos always catch my interest

[@JessieYun]

I would love to check out the final video on Eramis! She's one interesting Fallen imo.

[@Forcer69]

I found the darkness once, it told me to burn things

[@chrisreilly1290]

I will love all lore videos you send out. That being said, I'd love to hear more about Eramis

[@ParanoidCarrot]

I love your longer videos. i would be super happy with lore drop :)

[@DredgenStorm]

Yes please to the big TSLAYP, Eramis wrap-up, and more amazing content!

[@michakowaleczko7512]

Yes definitely make a video about Eramis and arhys I love the lore of the eliksni

[@whodinian]

I'd love to see more on Eramis! I'm sure there's more stuff I've missed out on (the more lore I can get the better!)

[@barrygill3418]

Would love to see a video on the following 1. Eramus = is she still alive? Is the darkness saving her for a future story? 2. Why the darkness has not communed with us since forsaken DLC. Nothing from it in past 2 seasons 3. Will oryx ever return through touch of malice? Did savathun learn necromancy simply to bring oryx back?

[@matthewcadena2824]

I’d love an appropriate another video on Eramis Byf! 👍🏼

[@armedxforcesuk94]

Great vids dude keep up the great work

[@rikuurufu5534]

Final video on Eramis is an easy yes. The more Eliksni Lore you can present, the better. The Eliksni are good boys and they deserve all the attention they can get.

[@jayallen5599]

YES ERAMIS FINAL VID

[@chief472]

I kinda feel like, if there's more on Eramis, then yes, it would be great to close that loop. Bungie did an awesome job in the thick of lockdown, finalising a lore loop on her would be a great way to say thanks

[@ericwolff2700]

So the whole exo thing is the same argument as the ship of Theseus, or the transporters in star trek, is a copy of your consciousness really your consciousness? It seems like thats the reason that the first exo's degraded and broke. But, to me, its not just that. It's so much more horrible. It feels like he used the darkness to really transfer the mind and more. He used the darkness to take the minds and the vex to bind them, it creepy and disturbing. He's basically trapping minds and "souls" in a mechanical form, and Elsie has been in that body, without a guardian reset button, fighting for hundreds, possibly thousands of years. Its insane to think of what she's seen, like Sarah conner on a universal scale

[@joshuamontenegro4767]

I would love as much destiny content you can throw at us so I'm all for anything.

[@adamtroth5665]

I would love the Athrys’s embrace and Emaris lore in one video

[@CyanideSprinkles]

i want the vid on Eramis. also i like this one too. Clovis lore has been unexpectedly fascinating.

[@arthanor9631]

The more videos the better as far as I'm concerned!

[@zephron28]

GO for it, I'll watch anything about lore for Destiny.

[@botkiller3059]

I love the Clovis Bray lore, your the best

[@shootureyeout0769]

All for more lore videos, if you can roll the 2 lore bits into 1 video, go for it, don’t care if it’s long I will still watch haha

[@threatlevel2015]

Clovis Bray lore is always good lore. Especially when it's done by byf

[@CruentusCruor]

Eramis is still too under-rated - any Extensions to get lore is always welcome- any lore researched and narrated by you would do it justice without question! Stay safe, Sir, and keep in rolling out the amazing content ~~

[@tankknightv5]

Would greatly enjoy Athrys' Embrace/Eramis video. Looking forward to it!

[@detectivestudios7699]

I would really like to see a separate video on Eramis, she’s such an interesting character.

[@gildersleeve5228]

Loved the video. And please do one long ass video (health and sanity coming first obvs) about Eramis and Althryss' Embrace.

[@lexie3902]

would love a good deep dive into eramis' backstory and athrys! Her story is so intertwined with Athrys and her reasons for falling to the Darkness are tied to the loss of her wife so it would just feel right for it all to be in one video.

[@caydespliff181]

I see a byf video, I hit the like button, and then proceed to watch.

[@patrickdevine8922]

The story of my life

[@doktorsmiles2034]

Another video on eramis? Well sounds like another byf video. im all for this revelation

[@dsgowo]

Personally, I love Eramis's story and a final lore video on her would be amazing

[@dream4cast167]

I think for a final video for her it's a good idea and it would lead her story into a concluding

[@noahkline4263]

Yes, make the dual vid, byf. You know what they say.. knowing is half the battle. ..the other half is space magic 🔥❄⚡🔮

[@jellyandjam9646]

That Eramis video would be amazing!!

[@ajacarlson3069]

i would LOVE more eramis content!

[@mavericknichols2717]

I'm down for a combined video for sure!

[@NeonxLightsx]

You should absolutely do another eramis video!

[@GOKG98]

what’s stopping clovis bighead from uploading himself into an exo and where is exo rasputin

[@EternalNightingale]

I haven’t seen a destiny lore since 2015 this brought back many memories 😭

[@bushsbakedbeans3378]

Welcome back homie, you’ve missed a lot

[@slevingaius]

Majestic 🦅 Yes Eramis kell lore please

[@freya_lilies]

I think a video on Athrys and Eramis would be neat

[@MaxClyde]

Definitely would like more about Eramis

[@c.w.crawley6668]

I would love a final Eramis video, wrap up what's left of her story.

[@thedestinymaster1017]

Hey Byf! I don't know if you will see this but I just realized the beginning of the beyond light theme plays at the end of vanilla D2 Campaign when the black fleet is unveiled.

[@thedestinymaster1017]

And that was 3 years ago

[@RafulNE]

As a biologist, the neuroscience and biology in this entry was neat!!

[@bushsbakedbeans3378]

How accurate is it? And if it is somewhat accurate, it really surprises me that a video game lore writer can come up with this shit

[@mitchelldondlinger1876]

@@bushsbakedbeans3378 I believe all of these concepts are theoretically possible and accurate aside from clarity and the vex fluid

[@musaed55555]

I love the storyline of Clovis, it should be made into a movie.

[@spicyramen4095]

I would like to see more lore on Eramis, she's such an interesting character

[@garycooper323]

Athrys’s Embrace and Eramis would be another fun video

[@PlayLoud13]

Personally I would love to see another video about Eramis. She’s one of the best villains the Destiny franchise has ever seen.

[@chrisallsopp9577]

Please do the Eramis video, even if you want to roll that and the Athryes lore into one video. But I just really wanna see the conclusion to that story with your silky smooth voice :)

[@wiseguy2750]

Byf needs sponsored by Audible since he is my Audible for Destiny. Yeah I'm too busy/lazy to read all this stuff. Plus I can learn this from Byf while I play the game. :D

[@Enzomuchodufte]

I would love to see more about Eramis

[@letzgetcheezy8955]

Give us eramis All Byf content is good content

[@champzki]

I just want to say thanks for the videos. I haven’t been able to play due to an injury and love that I can get my lore without playing. Also you pronounce shit correctly!

[@joshtheguitarplayer7151]

Hey Byf, can you do a video on the new trials armor lore? there's some really interesting bits of insight into the anxiety some guardians are feeling with all the events happening in game.

[@anonemoose6622]

I def want more on Eramis and her crew!

[@vincentrexroad8121]

Definitely a final vid on Eramis please