Destiny Debate w/Candace Owens Instantly Spirals Out Of Control

[@Carlosdreamur]

Lol Candace has encyclopedic knowledge on the diddy case but doesn’t follow anything about trumps.

[@simonhall9583]

Or Andrew Tate's apparently.

[@oscarperez9783]

This is why people are losing faith in mainstream journalists in general. Small creators on KZbin do more research than big teams

[@Tragick_Sin]

That is because the trump case is a fake woke agenda

[@Alright70]

She’s an incredibly rude gaslighting person. I knew I didn’t like her takes but got she’s so insufferable. Papa you saw exactly what Destiny saw. Out of state.

[@Archonus]

Destiny is just as rude and gaslighting, and that's exactly why she was giving him that attitude. He fucking deserves it.

[@Klamp20XX]

That Mean Girls audition was pretty great

[@heatherlaaman3593]

I’m a very serious Christian and her “I’ll pray for you” was not only super condescending, but she didn’t pray for her at all.

[@AnarchoPunkChad]

It's just a way that evangelicals and fundies shut down conversations.

[@maxheadroom1207]

Candace and I are about the same age. P diddy and his crew were at their prime in the mid to late 90s and they were one of the most popular artists when I was growing up. This idea that the temptations is supposed to be what most 90s kids grew up listening to is laughable.

[@Red88Rex]

Right.., it was Mase and busta throwing around cash and women in videos

[@mizutsunebubbledragon3382]

Im a 90s baby and dudes like Ginuwine talking about Thongs and Riding him like a Pony. Candace is just cherry picking. Suggestive amd straight up inappropriate songs arent a new thing but she needs to push a narrative. Oh yea, Flo Rida Whistle anyone?

[@3minutestill]

In 90's but my family would play old music. Temptations? 😂😂😂 listen to their song Cloud Nine. Read the lyrics to White Horse, MC Lyte? Listen to Rough Neck. She isn't from the community. Girl really doesn't know music (Candace)

[@Westlander857]

I went to college, and it made me a more independent and well-rounded person who actually wanted to learn new things and meet new people. My takeaway wasn’t that it was pointless, it was that the college experience should be available to everyone. I was very fortunate to have a family that could pay for it, but it shouldn’t be limited to people like me. There are people infinitely smarter than me who are locked out of college because they can’t afford it, and that’s unacceptable.

[@NuclearDetractor]

These politicians and pundits, like Candace, tell Americans that college is a waste of time and money; but if you ask them about their education, they all went to the finest universities. And their children; they went to even finer universities. It's so nefarious and so obvious what the agenda is here. Just look at American history when women or black people were second class citizens. Civil rights leaders first advice to younger generations was always, "educate yourself".

[@kev587]

I’m very well-rounded with no college education but I also choose to work a blue collar job

[@Tragick_Sin]

If u need college to make you well rounded. Then ur an idiot

[@EdNalRim]

Video starts at 9:12

[@huare7946]

Thanks boo 😚

[@butterjujunut]

You're a prince amongst men

[@PapaGut]

Thanks for this comment, I thought I edited out the intro to the stream but forgot, I was able to edit it back to normal in the KZbin editor.

[@Tragick_Sin]

@@PapaGutvery pogger

[@hamabrewer]

@@PapaGutfirst time catching the stream

[@bobbii]

Candace says whatever she's told to say by the Daily Wire. I'm 99% sure she's never had an independent thought.

[@justinoliveira3063]

I wouldn’t even say the Daily Wire is telling her to say these things. I think she’s just desperate to be the most fringe to get the most attention. Most left leaning people would consider Ben Shapiro to be pretty conservative on most things, but compared to Candice he looks far left.

[@rhalfik]

If a black person would ever had an independent thought, they wouldn't be on the payroll from Daily Wire.

[@yourgrammarisnotverygood1827]

I think she’s more loyal to Kanye than the Daily Wire.

[@noo343]

Her and Ben are like almost going to blows You don't know shit

[@bobbii]

@noo343 thank you for your productive reply.

[@raptorprimal1077]

I lean a bit Conservative tho I'm neutral and even i agree candice was being really weirdly rude in the conversation and the idea of everything being some conspiracy is odd.

[@AmericanGadfly]

She didnt say everything was a conspiracy. In reference to the p diddy stuff, i dont know why this is even questionable after the Weinstein, Epstein and R. KELLY stuff thats come out. Seems like its pretty much par for the course at this point

[@beasty108]

things need to be spelled out for you clearly. @@AmericanGadfly

[@AmericanGadfly]

@@beasty108 brilliant response, keep up the good work pal

[@justinoliveira3063]

Because that’s how she is. She’s extremely smug and acts like her view on life is always the morally superior one. I used to be a hardcore follower of hers, but once I took a step back and looked at the whole picture it’s clear she’s insane. You know how crazy you have to be to get ostracized by your coworkers at the Daily Wire when you have colleagues like Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles?

[@blessingo7449]

@@justinoliveira3063 lol she hasn't been ostracized

[@quietbulldog]

Where did all the left handed kids come from? No one was left handed back then. Now whoa 50% 😲

[@yugoxgc]

​@@JoshBonesJones K 💀

[@Udontlikeice]

Bc back in the day and no bs some ppl thought the left hand meant u where the devil

[@godiebeard]

I hope he goes over destiny's substack on Owen's sketchy college story

[@jcnot9712]

It’s incredible. She’s a self-admitted oreo who grew up in a suburb. Probably not the richest kid in that suburb, but suburban regardless. Then she wants to turn around and act like she comes from the slums when it’s convenient to her narrative. Absolute bad faith nonsense.

[@carbonatedPigeon]

As someone in CT, Stamford is a pretty nice city - upper & middle class. By no means the “hood”.

[@JGLMAO]

Yea, the hood would be Bridgeport, New Haven and Hartford. Some parts of Hamden

[@davidcochran113]

This is correct

[@justinoliveira3063]

Exactly. I laugh when she disregards the fact she grew up in an extremely wealthy area of CT. Basically any town/city close to the NY border outside of Bridgeport is upper class. Stamford, Westport, New Canaan, etc. are all upper middle class at the very least. Candace acts like she grew up in Bridgeport.

[@JGLMAO]

@@justinoliveira3063 she talks like she grew up in newhallville or the hill in New Haven. I live and grew up there and it’s funny hearing her talk about Stamford like that bc someone saying they’re from Stamford here is like “damn you rich rich”

[@Sun_Rider_FPV]

@@JGLMAO Don't forget some parts of Ansonia

[@docsuperg3560]

I stopped watching this podcast when candice called destiny a contrarian and accused him of not having a real conversation bc that's exactly what she was doing with her "what do you mean by that" and constant shift of topic before destiny was able to point out why shes bing unreasonable. Thanks for covering this you made it much more bare-able to watch im glad i wasnt the only one frustrated with her

[@slashfan091]

15:23 The real black “gangsters” (criminals who used their crime to effectively build communities/cities like the Italian mob) were all locked up, Larry Hoover being the most famous example. With the OGs being arrested, “gangsters” ended up having to lead each other when they were far too young and unprepared for the role in life. Then come later with the rising absence of fathers (a different discussion as to why it happened), the young men who chose the criminal life would end up being the next OGs (assuming they didn’t die before 20) and lead the next generation astray. It went from OGs being the mentors and voices of reason on how to stay out of trouble while still making your money, how to handle conflict, and basic codes of honor, to young cats putting guns in a kid’s hand and tellin them to run down their opps for credibility, “earning their stripes”. The thugs that don’t die young rarely mature out of that mindset and once again pass it on to their kids or other youngins in the neighborhood, and the cycle perpetuates. Gang culture was glorified for both blacks and Italians, difference is Italian gang culture was always about money first, and didn’t devolve into gang-banging crash out fests. Godspeed. EDIT: I want to add that originally, gang culture in the black community started off as a means to police themselves, they dealt with a racist police force that basically acted like a gang themselves, so the community, which was an ACTUAL community back then, held each other down. Crack was what fucked that up, weed was sold for sure and violence existed because of it, but mfs was NOT tweaking until they became real base heads, and it proved that our “community” really can’t say shit about white oppression: we accepted crack from the white man, and sold the white rock as blacks people to black people, we didn’t have to. Rant over

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

Wonder how white communities would look if cocaine was punished the same as crack? And if white people did the same time for victimless crimes? And white people were generally profiled as criminals, outside of the far right imagination?

[@yugoxgc]

Obviously having a degree in Journalism would be useless for Candace Owens. Why would anyone think it wasn't 💀

[@pjhaze]

The biggest problem with the Diddy conspiracy is that he was just getting popular along with the Notorious BIG / “gangsta rap “ and was the same time as Lauryn Hill coming out with a solo album. Therefore how did he or how is he responsible for culture going that way?? I believe he’s into crazy stuff and I am sure he has done things I would consider immoral. But is it different than other people with similar levels of fame etc? Idk. I don’t know why everything has to be a big conspiracy and can’t just be yuck

[@dangerguy32]

BIG was under him

[@TheBlackSpastic]

Going to college made my life do a 180. I got a degree in Game Development/Computer Science at 28 and had a job before I graduated. I also feel extremely lucky and feel the real dice roll is getting those first jobs to give you 3 - 5 years experience. Without that experience getting a job feels like winning the lottery. I was lucky the school I attended brings employers in for Interviews and I volunteered for every one. I would never approach half of what I earn now, if it weren't for college.

[@thaQu33n517]

The title should be :Two people try to talk over each other for 2+ hrs claiming they know more than the other😂

[@SOUL-KING-93]

Down in the hoods of Connecticut it's hard out there. (Sarcasm)

[@Bingb0ngbing]

When you have to watch the end of the video on slowed speed and Papa sounds like a concussed patient 🤣

[@prayforparis187]

God I hate conservatives attempting to speak on rap music. I listen to rap almost exclusively, and if it's not: Eminem, Tom Mcdonald, Adam Calhoun, or WAP, conservatives don't know of it or consider it rap. There's SO many artist who make music that backs up Destiny's point (Kendrick, Nas, Biggie, Pac, JayZ, JID, Joey Badass, Denzel Curry, Griselda, Freddie Gibbs, Isaiah Rashad...I could go on forever lol)

[@ant_the_rant]

I'm a conservative, I can speak on rap with authority. I grew up on conscience hiphop from the Bay, but familiar with it all. I think you are missing the point when people go from liberal to conservative. It comes with maturity and responsibility. Naming a bunch of apolitical young dudes having leftist media put words in their mouths doesn't make an argument. Not to mention you are literally making shit up. Benny the Butcher of Griselda has very famously endorsed Trump and inked it on his skin. Did you just forget to mention Kanye? 50? Killer Mike? Waka? Keef? C'mon... 🧢 Who do you think moguls like E40 support? Gibbs was on Ye's recent release, and hangs with Rogan... in Texas. I'll let you put 2+2 together. The thing is, the devil has got a grip on the industry. So people keep their cards close. Nas doesn't know if he's Christian, Muslim, or atheist, courted by leftists through academia, but you best believe he's surrounded by millionaire/billionaires on the right despite presenting as left. JayZ is a whole other devil to itself. Follow the money there. You might as well lump Lil Nas X into the left. Claim that abomination. Unfourtely we have to claim SexyyRed as a Trump supporter but again, conservatives don't F with that.

[@Absorbedtoast]

That “I just think you’re contrarian” response to an extremely valid response shows everything you need to know about her

[@colwellalec]

Yeah I wasn't familiar with her going in, but it was just instantly like "oh so she's not even trying to hide that she's crazy" lol

[@jessenunez2306]

I got EQUALLY as frustrated at the college bit lmao. She had me yelling at my screen 😭

[@aynala8095]

Have you ever noticed papa gut has never been present during major historical events? No. He has been hiding. Papa built the pyramids

[@blkflwer6592]

Dude. I went to an out of start private school and was poor. It was $16k a semester. Between pell grants, scholarships, and other aid I had to take loans on like 1/4 of that. After a double major and a minor I have $68k in dept. Girl is lying.

[@blkflwer6592]

And yes it is a bachelor of fine arts. 😂 And YES I am using it! Believe it or not. My major was metals and sculpture and I am currently a jeweler

[@hibiscus6466]

Candace just can't come to terms with the decisions she made when it came to college. And I agree, she is deliberately leaving out information because she wants to push a narrative. Six years and she has learned nothing.

[@agirlnamedtomm940]

I watched this entire interview with my mouth on the floor.

[@Necrotheos]

She reminds me of those people that pretend that everything is worse now than before and ignore all the context from the past 100 years. Elvis was insane to people back then, women would literally faint. Now it's just another dance.

[@mrakoi2431]

When he said who gives a fuck about the music… he proved he knows nothing about black people. Sir please stop talking about black people.

[@WesleyLindsey]

Right. It's funny how we all know how role models and things being pushed in the popular culture will influence people irl but says the music isn't a factor lmao.

[@tlmreacts]

Y’all been drinking way too much conspiracy juice lately 😂

[@EpicCoolGuy21]

I don’t think music is super irrelevant. Yes, white people also like rap and hip-hop, but the difference is the lack of parental figures (especially male role models for young black boys) is exponentially higher in the black community than it is in the white community, therefore white kids are able to have a healthier interaction with drill music than black kids on average, due to the fact kids with male role models already have an ideal to aspire to and don’t have to look up to celebrities promoted by the mainstream to have a male ideal to strive to be, many of whom don’t have a moral bone in their body.

[@bigboipapa1441]

Btw with the Justin Bieber point Candace made, she wasn’t referring to the leaked video of Justin making a racist joke. She was referring to the rumors that Justin was actually a victim of Diddy allegedly.

[@globottle6811]

1:00:00 yes, its a huge deal for people in rap. you should watch yourrage talk about meek mill possibly being gay. the homophobia in rap is insane lol

[@shnopw]

7:33 beautiful stuff

[@jonathanmontgomery1030]

For the typical 4yr college student costs, per school year (fall&spring), don't even eclipse $25K

[@Breakfastburritos35]

I’m 6 months late but your comments have aged very well so far

[@Necrotheos]

Her energy is wild, like she just started off with the strangest attitude. "Why the laugh?", bro I laugh all the time as a nervous reaction

[@theafflictionvhs17]

_Candace Owens is the definition of “doing too much”_

[@midnightnavigator]

I do think there is an epstien-esque ring of exploitation and blackmail with Diddy, and I'll tell you why; Before the Epstien thing broke, Seth McFarlane made a joke at an awards show about how the lady that won didn't have to pretend to like Epstien anymore. And a few years ago, Eminem made a joke about Diddy putting the hit out on 2pac. These felt like subtle, silent whistle blows. Now, that being said, I think Candice is waaay to conspiracy about it and kinda makes it a joke because she's a joke.

[@jonbelbawlout]

papa gut when she says state schools she doesnt mean community colleges, theyre different papa

[@tylerjellywelch4898]

So one thing about CT financial aid I can speak to is that my parents didn't make enough to help me pay for college in any way but they still made to much for me to get any meaningful financial aid. They offered me 400 dollars so there is a middle ground where you just get fucked

[@Acesaidshutdaufup]

Candace smoked this debate shout out to everyone who disagrees without knowledge lol u all are losers of america

[@gideontoxla8707]

As a fellow black 😂😂.. I feel like Candace forgets foxy brown, etc. sex appeal and nasty lyrics have always been in the hip hop culture similar to violence. And you know whyyyy… it reflects the conditions of the individuals creating the art … shoutout Freakniks generation 😮😂

[@mauv327]

24:19 lol

[@dhatkrazzikidd101]

I seen the diddy court documents it does not have all them pictures and vids

[@dabombvoyage2906]

I mean to call Katt Williams homophobic cause of Candace explanation is crazy to me. He’s a very educated man and he stating his experience in the industry.i hate how when papa talks about gay anything or dress anything he goes they can’t do wrong or there’s no conspiracy but he watches a video of a trans person saying republicans are paying trans people to de-transition and he goes I wouldn’t doubt that with little to no hesitation

[@itsjayswelly]

Katt is clearly homophobic. It ain't that crazy that he is, the black community is pretty homophobic in general outside of younger generations

[@dabombvoyage2906]

@@itsjayswellyclearly how? U can’t just say he is without reason

[@Observette]

I watched that Rogan podcast with Williams and I definitely didn’t think he comes across “educated”. He too just rambles about everything being a conspiracy just like Candace. Also his men in dresses rant is just straight up dumb.

[@dabombvoyage2906]

@@Observette I don’t think it’s dumb at all. He’s saying it seems like managers or productions of movies like to demasculate men and see where their limit is.he said he had been asked to take part in a grape scene on terry crews who has openly come out and said producers tried to assault him and make him do horrendous thing.katt williams definitely ain’t the only black men saying men in dresses are to demasulate them.he never said they are making men gay or that the cause of it is Hollywood making men gay he’s talking about demasculine men.and I’m pretty sure Katt reads about history and theories on history and history is the best information in the world to knowing how we work today since id say he’s pretty intelligent

[@kaydenjones3183]

@@Observette I find the dress stuff belivable honestly.

[@nighthunter9638]

Congratulations on the weddings

[@MarioPeeps]

27:16 a little harsh there papa

[@davantebarbain3216]

rap started & was popularized and credited to the sugarhill gang and then later with grandmaster flash & the furious 5 then later we got gangster rap from nwa and thing is that they show the perspective of how the crack epidemic and the war on drugs damaged the black community and something i find dumb is the cardi b comparison falls flat when we look at the 90s,early to mid 2000s had shit on or above in terms of sexual imagery

[@Chill_Im_Probably_Trolling]

She did not grow up poor. She was born and spent early years in White plains New York which papa you know is not to rough then move to Stamford & according to Google ... Stamford is in Fairfield County and is one of the best places to live in Connecticut.

[@bertroberts1]

I'm literally watching this today and guess who's prediction became a reality haha oo Candice!!! The daily wire just gave you your serving papers 😅🤣

[@Rollin_Stoney]

Candice makes me wanna R. Budd Dwyer myself 😅

[@swag_on_me_03]

Wapa wut

[@AxeWieldingOctopus]

Female Sneako kinda hot

[@urzmontst.george6314]

Condescending Candace

[@Run_It_Back]

It seems like this Papa Gut guy copies a lot of Destiny’s social quests 😂 is he a Destiny clone or is that a coincidence? 😂

[@marcuswellington5866]

How small is destiny 😂 but for real

[@nejihyuga1105]

Bridgeport ct is the hood

[@nejihyuga1105]

But she grew up in stamford which is nicer then bridgeport obviously.

[@LegiamasC-OnTwitta]

@@nejihyuga1105not just nicer that’s like a rich ass area. Not from ct but I recall that being the case

[@CherryDiMilo]

papa gut you are living in a bubble... regarding the trans thing... maybe C O is overblowing a little bit but Papa you are down playing it