Destiny Finds Out How Brittany Really Views Him, Burns The Bridge Completely

[@destiny]

SA Talk w/ Brittany Simon And Aella ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZi6dWV9p7GWm7M Destiny Actually Gets Mad, Confronts NotSoErudite And Brittany To Defend Himself ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIHHZKJ7js97ptE Destiny Gets Into Impromptu Debate While Reacting To Brittany Simon ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaelYaiCp79of7c

[@RemOmni]

Slow the vid down to 0.25 when Destiny talks it will give the weed effect.

[@kyleholmes8230]

Being nicer is almost always the right thing to do. People just don't take criticism well. People (I) love you for your honesty, and you can convey your critiques more calmly to cater to their emotions. Or not.

[@stepfaniehawkins205]

Oh come on Destiny lol just say it...... She's right! You do give good relationship advice but your own relationships suck. If they didn't suck she wouldn't be saying the thing she's saying right now

[@Mikey.M.V.P.1]

It's funny how these streamers think that they think they know your life better than u do & how much of a narsatist u got to be that she thinks her advice trumps all she just want to put u down & gaslight u into thinking her advice would help when in reality she doesn't know shit

[@ultragamer4465]

AYYO EDITOR BANGER INTRO MUSIC CHOICE

[@josuevazquez6639]

Steven: Normal people are boring, I think mentally ill people are more fun... Also Steven: Surprised pikachu face when the people around him are acting crazy and irrational.

[@knes167]

Yeah after him having damn near mental breakdown over Ana: " Wondering if a dude did this to a woman would ppl allow it to go this far", a no mentioning Ana arc, "this is the most traumatic moment of my life"-- and then went back to sexting her. I no longer care to be concerned and just laugh and enjoy the ride. That was so stupid of him ***Edit: formatting

[@HawtLS]

I think the bigger problem is the way he calls everyone around him crazy/unhinged/random psych term. It’s easy to brush off anything someone says if your first instinct is to label them crazy. If someone is called crazy long enough, they’ll become crazy.

[@pooplord6688]

lol, I forget who said it..."crazy pussy hits different." NGL it's soooo hard to turn down sexy times with a woman who wants to worship you in the way no sane human being ever could.

[@IsraelLlerena]

What’s your opinion on LGBT?

[@cngotham4111]

@@HawtLS lol maybe if your a crazy person no matter how.mant times a guy in the internet calls you crazy wouldn't make them insane. Also those same people called themselfs crazy as well to deflect and have an excuse.

[@johngotti778]

"Sneako is more open minded than Destiny" the guy who calls everyone who disagrees with his lifestyle, a bot. wow

[@he.5865]

Yeah destiny is way more open minded. He has a proven track record of banning, black listing and blocking anyone who disagrees with him on a point that happens to insult him or makes him feel bad. Destiny: HE CANT BE MORE OPEN MINDED THAN ME HE CANT BE someone disagrees Destiny: blocks them on everything. very open minded indeed.

[@UmmItsMJ]

@@molsy1768 I mean, Destiny still isn’t as open minded as people pretend he ie

[@PatientAsian]

@@molsy1768 He's just being open-minded. /s

[@brock7889]

​@@UmmItsMJ bro it's different when u ban people in your chat, youre constantly dealing with stupid ideas from aggressive and/or abrasive people constantly when streaming. What makes destiny open minded is his willingness to talk to orators on any side of the political aile and potentially have productive and interesting conversations with them.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

​​@@he.5865 You don't need to be very open minded to be more open minded than Sneako. Destiny giving Sneako any benefit of the doubt (which he did) already puts him leagues above Sneako in terms of Open-mindedness.

[@ihavenolife6839]

Man each season keeps getting better and better. Show writers really deserve a raise. 👍

[@marcinnieistotne3863]

@Y Y is valid*

[@peewee0224]

@@marcinnieistotne3863 they are literally polar opposites.

[@richardona5573]

If Melina goes and fucks sneako Oh fuck that season would be wild 😂

[@insensitive919]

I'm kinda lost can you link me to the wiki plz 😰

[@StevenAakre]

I wish I could convince myself that this is all fictional. I feel like nobody would ever act like this, but my mind is 99% convinced this is real. The blind leading the blind doesn't even begin to describe this shit show. I can't imagine anyone seeing this could come to the conclusion that he is chill and nothinig bothers him. He freaked out that a friend said he was less open than some other dude.

[@ilyarepin9490]

This stream solidified for me that Destiny wasn't lying when he said he married Melina for her intelligence. Their relationship gets brushed over with the rich guy marries young model stereotype. But she does a really good job at countering his schizoid takes and logically talking him down from the ledge. Truly an inspirational lesbian relationship.

[@ilyarepin9490]

Also, fuck Dan for dickriding Destiny and trying to erase all progress towards reconciliation

[@ultragamer4465]

GIRLS NAME HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHQHQHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@dylankempthorne]

​@@D1sappo1ntmentPanda That doesnt mean she didnt have a decent logical explanation. You might prefer Dan's stance but Melina's was still well reasoned.

[@KennyCutz]

Lesbian relationship is crazy asf! 😂😂😂

[@smithblack5945]

Lol, most normies can do what Melina did. The only reason she seems exceptional is because Destiny hangs out with the dregs of the earth.

[@TheXiguazhi]

She literally defines being open minded as someone willing to take advice from HER. Not just take advice but take advice from HER

[@FirsToStrike]

Yup cuz she can't see how narcissistic she herself is.

[@Hydranox]

100%

[@panacea.palace]

@@FirsToStrike don't worry though she gave herself a 10 on the introspection chart. And ranked her followers too lmao

[@theprofesionalist7927]

@@FirsToStrike It's almost as if we should've listened to Mr. Girl. As much as I hate to admit that he was right it does take a narcissist to know a narcissist.

[@Aya..19]

Advice that, btw, no one asked for...

[@charred6683]

Destiny: hang out with insane people Also Destiny: get shocked by their insane behavior

[@drewgamble8380]

Starts to make you wonder if you really buy the idea that Destiny is sane in the first place

[@xbabu142x]

​@@drewgamble8380 I don't watch him for the sanity I watch to be entertained

[@fuglygangdb]

I’m pretty sure he considered Brittany normal tho right? Thats why he’s so suprised from her actions.

[@solar88cowboy]

of course he would be surprised if someone he thought WASN’T insane does something insane regardless of who he hangs with, how does this even make sense unless you’re memeing?

[@rosssivertson6339]

Destiny is one of those rare unicorns of a liberal that I agree with on quite a few things. He surrounds himself with many who are not and is shocked when they say and do crazy things.

[@tytanowykarol]

The Destiny Cycle: 1. Bring in some- let's say- mentally dubious person on stream 2. Milk content from them 3. Be charitable and treat them well 4. Disagree with them once 5. They turn on you and call you a terrible person, liar, narcissist, etc. 6. Be very surprised it happened. 7. Call people stupid when they point it out and say you just like those kinds of people and other people are boring. 8. Repeat.

[@SomeSubhuman]

Don’t forget the bans

[@crzyprplmnky]

Not false

[@hennessya96]

Dude everyone in these spaces online are mentally dubious

[@ChichiNaka]

Chat called all three of these people day 1 and hundreds get banned for mentioning it Idk how anyone can speak on his sub with how militant the mods are to shut down any differing opinion

[@purplefyrus5370]

Im glad he has Dan at least

[@romnesia7729]

She really surprised me. Out of all the people in this space, I never thought she would dye her hair blue

[@footballnotsoccer8873]

Fucker you got me, I usually don't fall for the She Steven comments

[@rll1236]

looooool

[@oliverherface1491]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fatnose0]

Clean

[@dave93x]

Oh my fucking god 🤣🤣

[@ryanbugle]

Dan's "Well you should" in response to Destiny saying he's gonna set boundaries this year was so unbelievably heartfelt. Was just really nice to hear such a genuine caring thing said

[@BrendanishLeo]

I usually don't like how meme -y dan is, but I think there's notes to be taken that he hasn't been on for all the meming that's happened recently or to gloat with Max and lav shit but destiny was legitimately upset about Brit and he comes on to talk to him. Legit good friend shit right there

[@chzbrgr123]

​@@natediaz1863 that's an odd way to interpret Dan's behavior here

[@TheBreezeShoot]

@@natediaz1863 what? Dan is like his longest and closest friend. It’s not like some content creator orbiter thing.

[@finnmarr-heenan2397]

He’s still an annoying melt

[@billybadass8690]

Good guy Dan. He should always win Buddy of the Year

[@zacharychristy8928]

My favorite part of Brittany's "level" system is that you can apparently go from a 5 to a 1 immediately if you don't take her relationship advice.

[@SomeSubhuman]

I wonder how many 5s she has on her payroll

[@TommFoolery]

@@SomeSubhuman She has exclusively 5s on her payroll, of course lol

[@mharris4264]

Best part is she wouldn't know when she's acting like a 1 because only a 5 would have that level of introspection.

[@TheJoyrunners]

I have a family member who is in this weird religious cult, and part of what they do is rank people from 1-5. When they are a 5, they are “closer to god.” I feel like this is what crazy people do to make sense of the world.

[@poiu477]

not to mention marrying someone within THREE months. She's tapped.

[@i_Amazin_]

"Sneako is highly judgemental of everyone elses life" so is Brittany. That's the thing. She made a business out of judging call ins.

[@deensama7718]

This is the biggest red flag he ignored about her from the start lol. It's stunning to me how many people are surprised by this turn of events

[@ImortalZeus13]

I think Brittany only considers someone “judgemental” if their judgements are rude

[@wisemage0]

@@deensama7718 I do find it absolutely wild that Steve just brushed off charging $250 for a 1 hour discord call as a quirky personality trait that's not exploitative at all.

[@unclegruber5703]

Lol, what a level 1 engagement with the situation. Bot level thinking.

[@k.t.8537]

Totally. And what makes it worse is she has an air about her when she is judging others that she’s being objective and coming from a place of empathy, but it is far from being either of those things

[@M_R_N_L]

It’s crazy how unaware Steven is about the fact that interesting people don’t always make good friends

[@lampad4549]

You don't think he is aware of that. Nobody saw the brittany bridge burning and a lot of people like aella as well and she is considered interesting, do you think that he shouldn't interact with her as well?

[@giorgisabashvili2664]

tbh destiny is kinda crazy too in a way but like nothing compared to people he tries to entertain

[@lindboknifeandtool]

@@jjw3046the Mr girl thesis. Genius

[@james_daniels]

That’s why I’d prefer the most boring people in the world lol. Unfortunately even boring people can be unhinged. So there goes that,

[@lampad4549]

There are plenty of interesting people that are friends with destiny.

[@kankerkebs15]

The biggest mistake is thinking all of these people are your friends.

[@kankerkebs15]

Terminally online behavior

[@LNMBEATS]

yes especially all the woman they will all back stab him cuz they already show the signs of bad people

[@Earthad23]

They’re digibuddies

[@janoschii]

Especially when they are obviously convinced of their own grandiosity. The pattern is clearly visible here. I saw this with Brittany and Lav in the first clip. Why doesn't Destiny see that?

[@jay-ov6vh]

lets be real, these are online associates at best. None of these people are his friends minus a handful

[@EverecTV]

The year of boundaries begins.

[@t-poison1731]

copium

[@inatani0]

Boundary setting arc

[@powercore2000]

but a man can hope

[@theveronica4716]

No 2023 was supposed to be the use their shields as a weapon year.

[@Totaltwist]

What have I learned today? To effectively trigger troll Destiny: 1. Claim he is closed minded 2. Claim he isn't as good at communicating as he thinks he is. 3. Claim he isn't being transparent about his life. 4. Claim he is giving hardcore advice on things whilst being the shady on life exp.

[@aLatios]

And if all else fails, call him spite-driven. Hasn’t failed, to date

[@debrachambers1304]

Compare him to others who you say are better at these things but you think are bad at them.

[@insensitive919]

Claim he is actually 7 feet tall and just wants to play the victim

[@byronbraddock]

For someone as insightful as he is, I'm actually shocked that he's not aware that the BIGGEST waste of time is expecting others to behave as you would.

[@christophermurphree2315]

I don’t think that’s the issue this time tho

[@jamesblondy2]

You watch enough and you'll realize that Destiny is incredibly naive.

[@byronbraddock]

@@christophermurphree2315 don't get me wrong. Brittany is totally out of line.

[@byronbraddock]

@@jamesblondy2 and this one kind of shows that it's willful. The fact that they're telling him "because you act like nothing bothers you, people don't know what will bother you specifically" and then he says "it should be obvious to be a decent human being". Which is fair but not absolute. Then they try to get him to communicate when people cross those boundaries he just says "I don't want to do that." Ok. So now you're subscribing to the fact that you will have implicit boundaries that people may cross and you'll write them off when they do. At least he's honest.

[@myhatelect]

His issue is overlooking obvious narcassism and character flaws because he wants to fuck these people

[@siggi4426]

Britney talking about how open minded she is and instantaneously burning the bridge over one conversation will never not be funny to me

[@justanotherjake1492]

Least self aware person Ive ever seen

[@shelleycline3542]

She didn't burn a bridge. She gave her opinion about Steven which he does about people all the time. Ya'll are tripping and bei g very emotinal. Lol

[@env0x]

@@justanotherjake1492 she is the real philosophical zombie all along. and thats why she projects onto everyone else and calls out other people for how unself aware they are, when it's really her all along.

[@nylondaimon]

Brittany the walking/talking Dunning-Kruger effect.

[@AgN847]

​@@shelleycline3542 It's not really bridge burning until destiny and brittany talk atleast once after this event

[@kietey14]

Dan is actually right on the friendship thing. I think Malena is still young and thinks the numbers matter. Having a small core group of friends greatly outweighs having a large friend circle of people you don’t really like. But she is right about trying to get all these new friends and them all sucking. It’s not that he needs to change his behavior, he just needs to select better. I doubt the Aba bridge will burn because he has a stronger connection and it’s founded in reality. Brittany was always illogical from her trauma, everyone hated Lav because she is a liar and was backstabbing from the beginning, and Mr Girl was a shit show from the start. Destiny decided to ignore the warning signs and try to befriends these incomplete humans. Again, it’s not on Destiny that they suck, it’s on him that his selection process sucks.

[@porcus123]

Burning bridges is a Destiny content classic. 👌

[@Queef_Storm]

One of the most emotionally intelligent comments I've seen

[@codyb.3015]

Funny how Aba and Kyla are the only two without BPD or NPD (tbf MrGirl has never admitted it, but it's obvious, only person besides Trump I've thought that about)

[@PoorEdward]

Don’t think that has to do with being young, just naive

[@PoorEdward]

@@Queef_Storm yikes

[@NoviProleterijat]

Thank god you finally realized who Brittany was all this time. Spiritual woowoo nonsense with lack of understanding people outside her own accepted views. She's the classical close-minded "open-minded" individual.

[@panacea.palace]

That's how I felt the first time I heard her. I'd even call myself a "spiritual" person too. Anyone that has done the slightest bit of real self exploration would know that ranking people based on some perceived level of "introspection" is fucking stupid because introspection is literally the first step in any spiritual/self help process. You can be aware of all your bullshit and not doing anything about it because all you did was "introspect"

[@demikava6663]

bro, but shes like a 5/5 on her awareness level. you must be a 2

[@rll1236]

Yeah destiny and a lot of his community seem to be trying too hard to figure out why brittany has these views.... fact is she's always been this mind numbingly dumb with the bubbles sh*t, there's nothing deeper to it. She got triggered extra recently because of destinys stance on the trauma topic and is being passive aggressive now on top of how reetarded she usually is. I've been a britanny hater since day 1, glad to witness this

[@D0TperiodD0T]

@@panacea.palace I mean the cringy categorizing is a phase that shouldn't be judged too harshly if the person is like 16. The thought-out system says more about her having weird obsessive tendencies than it says about anyone she fits into it. You would think a 30 year old who values "self awareness" would see how bad of a look it is to create a spiritual ranking system to put people in.

[@panacea.palace]

@@D0TperiodD0T exactly

[@UnKnown-sf9vw]

"Steven is not open-minded to me helping his relationship be better." The level of arrogance and self-importance needed to flat-out assert that someone needs your help because you can make their relationship with another individual better is astonishing. Delusions of grandeur on full display.

[@Loengrinn]

My siblings get mad at me for being insufferable about using specific words, but this is why I'm so anal about that. OPEN-MINDED is when you can hear an idea or thought that differs from your own and understand how it makes sense to the other person, even if you still disagree with their opinion or conclusion. Brittany isn't talking about open-mindedness, though. What she MEANS is receptive, which is ABSOLUTELY not the same thing. And despite the first hour of "was it the grape convo", it wasn't anything on Destiny's end of things. It was solely that Brittany was using the wrong word, AND that she feels like her advice is applicable and good for anyone besides herself. And that's without getting into the level of arrogance involved in being upset at someone for ignoring your unsolicited advice on ANY subject, let alone on a relationship, and especially one that's so unorthodox.

[@pookz3067]

How is that delusional? Seems pretty common you can know such things with certainty. Like, extremely common.

[@UnKnown-sf9vw]

@Pookz With certainty, really? You can know for a fact that you can "fix" someone else's supposed relationship problems? The sentiment reeks of arrogance and delusion. Not even an actual therapist would make such a bold claim.

[@kuro2797]

This was exactly my thought. “He thinks he doesn’t need my help because he thinks he’s happy with his relationship”. This is like the whole “you think you’re atheist, but really, you’re Christian. You just don’t know it” argument. Why would you come along and argue someone out of their happiness. It’s so goddamn weird.

[@illitaret8780]

@@UnKnown-sf9vw did she say with certainty or are you making stuff up to fulfill your moral superiority complex?

[@HierophanticRose]

Bridge: Burned Drama: Escalated Content: Made Thumbnail: Found

[@gocarps9973]

I think the problem for destiny is he does not interact with normal people, he is interacting with content creators. Some of the most self obsorbed, narcissistic, and creative people out there.

[@lustrazor44]

“Creative”. Most of the content creators he interacts with are hardly creative.

[@TommFoolery]

Not only that, he specifically picks out some of the most narcissistic mfs in his space lmao. He's picking the worst of the worst and then is shocked when they're the worst

[@Kuroganemk2]

Well, he is one of them. He does come off as all of those things to people from the outside too lol

[@vulnerablegrowth3774]

He interacted with someone “normal” this past week and they went psycho on him too. There’s someone in common among all these interactions. Destiny is fueled by these interactions for some reasons, despite him flipping out when it goes wrong.

[@chembabe8264]

I dont think this is the case. Obviously if he interacts with normies we wouldnt know because they arent online. And he says he has normal friends or people he talks to.

[@enlightenednormie242]

Brittany is the epitome of being Passive Aggressive

[@Hydranox]

100%

[@stephentyree9296]

Even the simple comments like “you live YOUR best life, bestie” seem really passive aggressive to me. I agree.

[@justanothernick3984]

When did Howard Stern transition into a younger woman?

[@intermediate212]

​@@justanothernick3984 😂😂😭

[@claff4573]

lol and destiny was having a mental breakdown on stream.

[@Raznor69]

My working theory: 1. Talking to highly opinionated people on stream is fun, so Destiny cultivates relationships with these kinds of people. 2. Highly opinionated people will eventually also form strong opinions about Destiny and his personal life. 3. Streamers are constantly egged on by their community to air out these opinions, because people want drama. 4. A subset of these highly opinionated streamers every now and then will make a mistake and cross Destiny's boundaries (which are clearly in place in my opinion). TL;DR: the high chance of these friendship falling-outs with streamers comes from the nature of these people and the business Solution: Destiny should cultivate friendships with less opinionated or non-streamer people and leave the volatile streamer people as casual streamer relationships.

[@Simjorfeo]

I always had the impression chat hated it when Brittany came on, but I don't know if that affected his view count. I personally couldn't listen to Brittany for longer than 5 minutes.

[@Beastmode54790]

🤓

[@CockatooDude]

@@Beastmode54790 Oh come on man that was a pretty decent comment.

[@lavellelee5734]

👏💯💯

[@Tridona]

the problem is that: you don't have to be smart or do research to be highly opinionated

[@dudenamedskip]

It's amazing how much I can agree with Erudite on this but the second she says "feefees" I have to *fight* the urge to not just disregard everything.

[@JonSnuh]

What do you agree with erudite on? Just curious. I find her to be playing defense for Brittany and telling Steve he needs to be more open emotionally so that other people can interpret him better.

[@dudenamedskip]

@@JonSnuh that he is always putting on this front that nothing bothers him and he doesn't care and he's very unique yadda yadda, but he clearly does care so he should make that known. Idk if it would've changed anything with Brittany or not, don't really care as I don't really enjoy her anyways. But yeah, mostly just agree with her and Mel that he should stop pretending he doesn't care about things when he clearly does.

[@mharris4264]

​@@dudenamedskip exactly when Lav and Mr Girl first left he acted like he didn't care and it didn't affect him. Or how he talks about having no or low boundaries. It's like he's trying to flex resiliency but he claims to like to drama. He might honestly enjoy having something to complain about; like reality TV stars. They're rich, bored, and need something to excite them.

[@dudenamedskip]

@@mharris4264 lol maybe, kinda like when people ask their friends for advice constantly but never actually take any of it then continue on complaining? I love watching him, but it does get frustrating because he doesn't often listen to people around him if what they're saying is different from what he thinks.

[@MO-zk8qs]

What’s wrong with her use of feefees did miss smth?

[@richybambam1995]

What destiny doesn't realize is that he is much more aware of his principles than most people. They like the rational conversations and the feeling that he is listening to them and thinking through what they say but don't like it when he uses that same energy to argue with them.

[@capo4ever334]

That’s why he’s so refreshing to hear. He’s super aware of his principles and how he lives whereas most people aren’t and even try to embellish or flat out lie while at the same time thinking they have the moral high ground

[@Iwillreply]

I'm aware that even though I have repeatedly challenged myself, seeking humility and a deeper awareness of myself and others, I still deal with frustration, and struggle when other appear not to do the same. I can see here that Destiny appears to be frustrated due to the same thing, which is someone coming away from an interaction with him and seemingly chosen not to consider what he said and what it means or why it was even said, and instead misinterpreted it, and is disagreeing with that misinterpretation very loudly and publicly. I see why his GF wanted him to speak with her, because the alternative is her possibly seeing this video, for example, and misinterpreting it again without any type of recourse from his end. At the same time, Destiny has a lot of experience debating and dealing with others, and may feel it's hopeless to try and speak with Brittany, because that hasn't resolved problems he's had with others in the past. Maybe, if he desired, he could speak with Brittany and have his GF present to help bridge the conversation, and "translate" what he is saying to Brittany. Again, that's if Destiny desires to do that, and I know he says he doesn't care, but that's probably because it seems like a huge waste of his energy and time, especially if it doesn't repair the perceived "burned bridge". I've totally chose sanity over trying to "fix" a relationship that would require a lot of effort, and would not be appreciated for at least the foreseeable future.

[@nemeru3352]

Hes aware thats hes aware what

[@urmum.comlel]

I think you're being too charitable these people just wany Destiny to be an uncritical hugbox. They don't want anything else. They do not care to interrogate their own beliefs which is why they are shit at defending them.

[@bobzombie2710]

Stephen: Hangs out with insane people Also Stephen: Gets shocked by their insane behavior

[@TheFamilyPodcast2024]

Just getting my popcorn ready for the Brittany joining Mr Girl arc. In all seriousness, Destiny seems to be open-minded when considering other people's lifestyles and world philosophies but seems to be assertive when it comes to his own personal choices and I think it throws some people for a loop. However, just because you don't take on people's recommendations doesn't mean you are closed-minded especially when you might have more life experience than the people making recommendations.

[@dannyvalward1524]

Ok, I don't know what happens but I make a bet right now: Brittany is NOT joining MrGild 😂 She'll probably just go under again and never come back, or come back, but she isn't touching MrGirl or Lav with a barge pole.

[@RS-fy9hb]

​@@dannyvalward1524 nobody is touching them that has half a brain, but brittany currently is even more bad faith than mrgirl and lav were.

[@damarihanson3876]

“Just because you don’t take on peoples recommendations doesn’t mean you are close-minded” Thank you for describing others perception of me compared to how I perceive myself. It’s hard for people who care about you to grasp with the fact that there are some changes that in the current moment I just do not want to make. it hurts them because I would’ve vouched for them as people who had valid opinions or perceptions, yet when I personally get their advice, it’s completely declined. This is basically happening to Destiny where he is ready to deal with the consequences of his dumbass decision making but then an unfathomable consequence of betrayal happens because he fails to understand how he’s made somebody feel self-important and then denying that importance. This is really interesting. Thank you for the comment.

[@brandonden795]

I'm sure the writers are floating the idea

[@oscar12ty]

@@RS-fy9hb no

[@IrfanHomes]

Love how Destiny always props up these smaller creators and they always bite him in the ass. Respect to Aba for sticking with my boi and not backstabbing him thus far.

[@viktorlindqvist5308]

Aba and Dam do be like the only normal people that are his friends tbh (publically on stream, there r probs offline friends)

[@SuperRainbol]

Aba is bigger than Destiny tho the situation is different

[@MuscleboundKage]

Oh no no no no PepeLaugh

[@BimmerBros]

Aba n Preach we’re already doing big numbers before Destiny, I actually found Destiny through Aba 😅

[@dank_tomatoes1165]

Careful

[@qazmko22]

This shouldn't surprise anybody who is familiar with Brit. She has BPD (Borderline Personal Disorder), while she has worked on herself for years and is in a much better place, she still has BPD and as a result she still sees things in Black and White and will write people off for litttle to no reason. If that's not bad enough, BPD will cause you to catastrophize and make things up, that's what's happening here.

[@justifano7046]

Idk why people took her seriously from the beginning. Weird to see comments adjust to how destiny "feels"

[@BearMetro]

Shouldn't Destiny know this, as her friend?

[@dieauferstehung]

mad creepy how this guy puts on girls and gives them an oppurtunity only if he coerces them into sex. This guy gets me tooed pretty soon

[@idkman2633]

True. His mistake is looking to what he himself can change. Dan thinks she did it for cloud. It's neither. She's splitting on him bc her past trauma got triggered by the conversation. That's all. Call a spade a spade and move on.

[@reddillon8425]

@@dieauferstehung cool meme

[@WillHouldy]

Destiny asking if he's got a communication problem because MRGIRL, LAV and BRITTANY have problems understanding him is peak comedy to me.

[@cngotham4111]

He doesn't have communication issues but he does have a lack of judge of character lol.

[@Aceman50333]

The repeating "I am upset" mantra while trying not to laugh had me dying 🤣

[@Kendrek_llama]

😂

[@Astrussy]

Time stamp ?

[@Lewa500]

​@@Astrussy 59:40

[@gamingwhilebroken2355]

I mean, he clearly is upset though. This clearly bothered him. He had an odd reaction, but let’s be real, who doesn’t sometimes. For example, after my father died, everyone else got together and cried and stuff, I went to bed and fell asleep. Weird? Kind of, as insomnia is the much more common reaction.

[@TommFoolery]

@@gamingwhilebroken2355 I think he made himself pretty clear that he was upset. His point with that whole bit was that he isn't then going to hop on stream and start crying for sympathy.

[@somerando8615]

2:08:51 after an entire year of telling the red pill bros they need to be more emotionally available, destiny finally gets hit with "just emotion harder bro"

[@ccie7489]

I feel like all it takes is Destiny disagreeing hard enough on a core view of an orbiter for them to completely flip. Doesn’t have to be anything major, heck it can be an argument about food or other inane stuff, but if it hurts the orbiter’s ego too much, then the bridge will crumble. Hasan hates Destiny now due to a falling out over a political take (which bruised Hasan’s ego). Vaush due to the Rittenhouse stuff. MrGirl burnt the bridge after unsuccessfully begging for hours on stream to get unbanned from Destiny’s subreddit. Lav turned after Destiny stopped treating her with kid gloves. Now Britney turned since Destiny was right about something she thought she was an ‘expert’ on, relationships. Her bringing on a psychologist who agrees with Destiny 100% probably hurt her ego even more after the original conversation. Part of what makes Destiny so successful is his ability to dismantle someone’s ideas and, well, make it look or sound stupid; doesn’t feel good when a friend disagrees with you, feels terrible when they completely decimate your entire worldview.

[@rocketrelm1125]

That genuinely is it, and I can say it from both personal experience and stuff I see with other people. It varies from person to person, but everyone has core values, often rational, but also often *not*, that if you even disagree with their tribe they will immediately go apeshit. I usually turn the convo away in one way or another before a bridge is burned because I don't care about their opinion on a topic enough to burn said bridge over it. Destiny does not do that. It's not an orbiter thing, it's really a most-humans thing.

[@orangesegment5674]

I don't think Brittany is a person who would be purposefully uncharitable or malicious to her friends. However, her outrageous views on Sneako and Destiny are wild. I think they might have something to do with her borderline tbh. The borderline in my life always label people into "good" and "bad" boxes, which twists how their perspective on them. I think the rape conversation caused Destiny to be labeled as an untrusted or "bad" person in her brain, while Sneako is still labeled as a "good" and trustworthy person based on his past videos of him an introspective dude. Or maybe I'm a loser, armchair psychologist, but it seems she is bending reality in order to maintain her preconceived labels on Destiny and Sneako.

[@oblivion_2852]

The problem is that she has alot of opinions and instead of presenting them as suggestions to the audience she presents all of her OPINIONS as PRESCRIPTIONS. She by default thinks someone who doesn't listen to her prescriptions is a bad person and not open minded.

[@drawingpower1]

she's bending it with herself as the focal point. Anyone who agrees with her= good, disagrees=bad. But it all came crashing down she realized she could be wrong about somethings.

[@AquaMarineFBVA]

I agree and it sucks becuase we DONT want to armchair psychoanalyst people but if you can see this through a "Brittney has border line" lens it REALLY makes sense. it is wild cuz KellyJean tried to introduce this but I think destit was tok triggered to give her that sort of charity. I know he can do it cuz he did it with Anna and it was why their relationship improved almost instantly. understanding is the only thing that will repair this bridge if it happens....

[@RS-fy9hb]

​@@AquaMarineFBVA yeah. But that happened after the only explanation that could exist was some mental illness stuff. I didn't know she had borderline, so it makes so much more sense, because that's literally the only possible explanation to explain how she can twist things to make her statements still exist as true in her head. This wasn't some small misunderstanding at a cursory glance, or surface level interpretation, it's literally like twisting reality to fit her narrative.

[@backwardsbandit8094]

It's a taboo and emotionally charged topic and Brittany is probably an emotionally charged person. In her eyes, if you dont agree with her on that specific topic then you're sort of a shitty person. Shes going to be very prone to bias based on her emotions and jump to black and white conclusions about people. Destiny however is very literal and manner of fact. He also has the same tone of voice when hes talking about how someone genuinely upset him as when someone said something stupid in a debate. Frustrated but not hurt. He still makes jokes mid-rant. Just because he doesnt express hurt in the same way that people are used to, doesnt mean that he doesnt feel it, but people assume this and take advantage

[@JeyDB]

The people who become legit friends with Destiny are people who see him as a actual person. Those who end up burning bridges or turn on him are people who see him as a social experiment/project, someone just to argue/debate, or just bounce words off him for their own enjoyment. They don't actually care about being friends with him.

[@SuperRainbol]

And with each day it becomes more and more clear that booksmarts were right when he said Brittany was not intellectually equipped to occupy this space in the internet. It was the same shit in the MrGirl convo, even if you disagree with MrGirl there is no denying that she got completely trashed in that debate, MrGirl would lay down all his arguments with premisses and conclusions and the only thing she would was "but you are wrong I'm not like that uwu humans gonna human." And later she started discrediting MrGirl character because of it. That's basically what happened with Destiny now, Brittany was completely destroyed in a debate and to cope she is attacking Destiny personally

[@panacea.palace]

No one with borderline should exist in that space. Or rank people based on "introspection."

[@hunnybeezy]

When she was talking to that therapist and said "That just makes so much sense to my brain" I lost it 😂 She's really not as intelligent as I believe she thinks she is.

[@jdkingsley6543]

@@panacea.palace bingo, the mental illness gets in the way for sure. You never know where they are and I think she was having an episode with this stream.

[@nathanielobinwaiii4139]

I don’t think Brittany realizes how much of an insult it is to say that Sneako is more open minded than someone.

[@Jalmerk]

I don’t even remotely understand the charitability people have for that guy

[@knes167]

​@@Jalmerk Initially he wasn't as wacky when he came back. His street interviews were good watches But his unironic BOT, B O T, B O T, referring to the matrix as a thing instead of a metaphorical too for a cluster of info, his more conspiratorial bullshit as of late and that rumble type of viewer putting a battery in his back and gassing up anything he says-- Sneako's lost the plot, just like radical feminist

[@f_eg]

@@knes167 and when he was on his film school arc he had some good watches like the sleepwalking in ___ series or like his horror short film.

[@RealMonno]

It's kinda funny that this conversation is happening around the same time as the "women being more clear about their boundaries" conversation. Just an interesting parallel between Kyla's/Melina's advice to Steven and Steven's advice to women. Edit: Even the addition of "we're not saying what she (Brittany) did was alright" is the exact same as the caveat of "rape is bad" Edit 2: I'm gonna put the reddit comment I made here since I think it's better than the original comment I made - I think the reason why Steven was pushing back on the generalized advice is that it was inapplicable in this situation, from his perspective Brittany would have done the same if he'd established better boundaries beforehand. This doesn't mean that the generalized advice is useless though. It would be comparable to the people pushing back on his advice for women establishing boundaries to avoid sexual assault if all they said was "this isn't applicable to my experience", but instead it was "this isn't applicable to my experience, therefore the advice is useless". I think that the way that Steven handled the criticism of his poor handling of boundaries in a pretty commendable way, he disconnected the advice from this situation and took it as a general perspective. It was funny to see that every time Kyla or Melina said that "we're not defending what she did" is the same as the "rape bad" caveat but Steven dismisses it since he knows they're giving advice to help in future relationships not blaming him for what happened.

[@MrCHI2cool]

It's actually hilarious how ironic this whole conversation is

[@drdaddydarkie164]

Calling someone close-minded because they won't immediately intake your micromanaging or THEIR relationship, is the definition of narcissism

[@user-gc1wj8tt2p]

This one hurts destiny because its sorta true. Destiny and mel obviously have a toxic relationship and even admitting to cheating on mel even on a open relationship lol

[@drdaddydarkie164]

@J Not really. You guys on the internet use toxic way to freely. It's lost almost all of its meaning. Destiny and Mel have an overwhelmingly positive relationship. The most toxicity you see is an occasional arguement on Stream, and even then, that's very normal for couples. The only reason you see it "more" is because he's a streamer. But all couples cresting over 4 years argue. Regarding to cheating, I'm sure that's caused an issue, yes. But it's pretty clear for them they use cheating in a less severe connotation than the average person. And it still doesn't change the fact both of them essentially confirm every time they're pressed on it that they're both Overwhelmingly happy in the marraige.

[@Observette]

I’m actually cracking up at the words “BUBBLE POP” August put in at the start. 😂

[@Odinshi]

That song hasn't been stuck in my head for years now, thanks for that T_T

[@bizzr2457]

From what I have seen, Brittnay views Destiny as more close-minded than Sneako, even though most people who know Destiny and Sneako well would disagree strongly. After watching Destiny since 2016, I can say that he is one of the most open-minded content creators that I have encountered. However, I think Brittnay is misusing the term "open" and what she really means is "vulnerable." Destiny has entertained a lot of ideas and processed many of his feelings regarding those ideas, which means that when he engages with those topics, he's recalling thinking that he has done in the past rather than creating new thoughts. This gives the impression that Destiny is not vulnerable, and I agree that there's very little at risk. He has already developed his ideas and he's just sharing them with the person he is talking to, rather than processing them in the moment. Sneako, on the other hand, is incredibly vulnerable, whether intentional or not. He does not wear his heart on his sleeve, but he wears it hidden behind a tattered cloak for everyone to see. This is what I think Brittnay confuses for openness. Destiny doesn't really care if you bring up his open relationship; it's an arrangement he has gotten into voluntarily and he can defend it given his own personal philosophy and feelings. Sneako, on the other hand, does not currently defend or endorse what happened with his ex-girlfriend, and because of that, that discussion is significantly more vulnerable for him. Now, add the fact that Destiny has probably already considered and processed most of the criticisms that people could bring up about him, and he has a response to it prepared. He also has a hate for apologies or virtue signaling emotion, preferring to just "not make the mistake again." This creates the illusion to an outsider of him being cold, rigid, and unchanging. Levels of openness, vulnerability, and expressiveness are often correlated in a person, but Destiny is a rare example where he is on polar ends of these spectrums, which I think confuses people or leaves them with an incomplete perception of him. In summary, Brittnay's confusion stems from using the wrong term and not recognizing the difference between openness and vulnerability.

[@tosic4097]

Chatgpt summary

[@KeemBG]

Jesus man. This looked like the unburnable bridge from the outside, It all happened so damn fast.

[@ungabungacaveman9021]

And over nothing tbh. She picked the fight, refused to take him at his word for anything, was super bad faith, brought on an expert to her stream that basically had the same take as destiny however she never walked anything back, and then continued to shit talk him. Like why? Why tank your career?

[@RS-fy9hb]

​@@ungabungacaveman9021 the spiral that happened was actually just crazy. She really just proved to me how absolutely true it is that she just simply can't stay level headed and rational around this subject. She literally doesn't see reason with this subject.

[@BrendanishLeo]

​@@ungabungacaveman9021 she's fucking stupid and always has been (I've said this since the levels drama) but her career was made before she went near destiny lmao. D is 100% in the right but calm yourself lmfaoo. Ok, away from criticism, it's really funny she won't take him at his word when 95% of their og convos would make her look fucking disgusting if she wasn't taken at her word

[@TheCamps10]

First Mr. Girl and now Brittany. Damn, I never miss. I should probably be Destiny's advisor so he doesn't get involved with utterly deranged morons, wow.

[@donjulio420]

The 911 of bridge burnings

[@powercore2000]

Damn, I actually feel pretty bad for Destiny. Regardless of why, loosing someone you thought of as a friend is not a good feeling.

[@backtonovember5306]

Nah dest is super detached from this stuff, luckily for him. If he was your average dude this would certainly get to him.

[@Ni-boo]

​@@backtonovember5306 do people need to cry when they are sad or scream and be aggressive when they are mad? Just because someone isn't emotional doesn't mean they don't have emotions.

[@jimmyjones2185]

At some point look at the company you keep. This ain't the first time won't be the last. His coomer brain can't comprehend bitches be crazy and the gash ain't worth the fallout.

[@Vscustomprinting]

It can be a really good thing too

[@AcrossTheSea12]

Lol nah. Brittany has only ever been a shallow relationship / content. She's not mentally fit for anything further. She joins lav and mrgirl in the "please let me never see these people again" camp

[@tommyboi4872]

4 strong women having an emotional discussion about feelings ❤❤❤

[@Luminoish]

The way she came for his character after the initial grape convo was the most disgusting thing someone you call a friend could ever do.

[@dazza761]

The misogyny arc is complete

[@amitabhsharma3916]

And the irony of comparing her own bad faith attacks with Aba's criticism lmao

[@theprofesionalist7927]

@@dazza761 Nah, it won't end until Destiny stops inviting hot crazy women onto his stream. This man is singlehandedly perpetuating the sexist stereotype that is if she looks like a 10 then she's either mentally handicapped or severely mentally effing deranged.

[@NYCOWNS]

Let alone a partner

[@sandyk9300]

yeah cant believe she hates destiny for justifying that white grapes are superior to red grapes....unbelievable

[@bearlyhardley]

Holy shit, remember in the prelude to the Orbiter Civil War when Brittany called herself “the female version of Destiny” and said they probably wouldn’t disagree about anything strongly?

[@camsquantchdalton8183]

Erudite is normally bang on but this time she was way off. The beginning or this video has destiny joking about suicide as well as alcohol and drug use. His demeanor was one of someone having a breakdown. He looked visibly stressed and a few times even had to take a break to do some deep breaths to regain emotional equilibrium. How can you say to this person less than an hour later that they don't show enough emotion to intuit their boundaries?

[@metroidfoosion73]

It’s because people view crying as the only valid showing of vulnerability. We refuse to see that anger is as much of a vulnerable response as crying, and is a more common way that men react to hurt. Just another way we as a society show no interest in understanding how men express themselves

[@austinmclean9474]

Probably because in the last 15 minutes of this video he immediately switched gears and started memeing about making a betrayal list. Acting as if the previous two hours conversation hadn't just happened.

[@KuroKumo96]

Don’t you know that people don’t view anger as “showing emotion”?. If the only emotion you show is anger or frustration it becomes harder for some people to empathize with you especially when you talk in a fast robotic tone like Ben Shapiro

[@lavellelee5734]

​@@austinmclean9474that could be him forcing himself to cope with the pain? He seemed more stressed than usual

[@kongeethegod]

Destiny is the only person that I've seen show almost any and every facet of his life on the internet and not do it in a cringy way even if the thing is cringe

[@skyefox]

I've cracked the code, I've discovered the secret sauce. Because Destiny's life is so public, Brittany doesn't feel special that he doesn't talk directly to her about 99% of the shit that's gone down in his life, either ignorant or entitled to dozens of hours of discussions and arguments about his personal life that are laid bare for the entire internet to see. She keeps talking about "when Sneako talks to me privately" and "Destiny can message me privately" well wasn't the whole point that Destiny isn't public enough with certain aspects of his relationships? PICK ONE

[@panacea.palace]

The part about her not feeling special. 100%. She's a narcissist. It's obvious as fuck

[@net28573]

That was my argument! Sneako seems more open minded to her because she feels like he opened up to her and when they talk in private he probably speaks differently from how he talks publicly. Meanwhile Destiny talks the same on stream and off and his tone makes him seem disingenuous in comparison.

[@silotx]

What code? She is just trying to milk some subs as every other orbiter to every other streamer ever its lame and boring.

[@Tami-po3gr]

I felt similarly. Either that or she’s too close to Melina, Sneako, and Notso, and others that know Destiny in a very unique and personally raw way. She’s being marinated in information the masses don’t know, in essence changing how she sees Destiny. The irony isn’t lost on me that he introduced her to his inner most circle and friends swiftly after connecting with her. This may be why Steven is fully blindsided by her claims. She needs to be the hero and I’m willing to bet she knows things he doesn’t know she does, people she cares about (ie sneak, Mel, Aba, Notso, etc.) are hurt or being hurt by him and she wants to hold him to tasks, call him out, or whatever so her friends aren’t going to continue to be hurt by him. She is inserting herself and that’s selfishly immature and wrong. He definitely intentionally tried to be vulnerable with her and she’s doing more harm than any good she’s justifying to herself.

[@Elowtayman]

Parasocial comment

[@rebeccarightnow]

I wonder if Destiny's assertions of his exceptionality ("I'm not normal, don't use me as a role model because I'm an exceptional person" etc) has actually made him seem less than human to some people, like an autism hyper-rational robot or something. I think he emphasizes his different-ness in order to help other people, but it's hurting him because he's not as much of an exception as he has made people believe he is.

[@kovenmaitreya7184]

Sounds like me kinda 🤔 (I don't mean this in an egocentric way, I seem to confuse people's expectations all the time and I don't have any close relationships right now.)

[@Emelenzia]

Honestly found this to be pretty sad. Destiny seem to really value his relationship with Brittany. But last few weeks Brittany been treating him like he is sub human. Someone not worth respect, someone who doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, someone who doesn't deserve to have boundaries. She entirely stopped seeing him as human and purely been going after him for content. While the Destiny burning bridge meme is often accurate, this is purely the case of Brittany betraying Destiny because she couldn't have a respectful disagreement with someone who suppose to be her friend.

[@junioralvarado629]

Idk what disagreement happened. All I know it’s about grape

[@GoodModeSC]

​@@junioralvarado629 Careful now, lest the Grapist tie you to the radiator and grape you in the mouth

[@morgantempleman1709]

@@junioralvarado629 Destiny pointed out that and individuals experiences (sexual experience, upbringing, personality, etc) could mean that how one person processes being graped and could be significantly different to how another person processes being graped. The problem is Brittany seems to misconstrued this as "people who are sexually promiscuous liked to be graped". Having watched the original discussion they had on this issue, and her subsequent discussion with a Doctor whose field of expertise is partly to do with trauma from grape, I have no idea how she could take that away that Destiny thinks this way given the words that came out of his mouth.

[@RS-fy9hb]

​@@morgantempleman1709 it also broke my perception of her, seeing how incredibly bad faith she was. It's like she didn't even hear what Destiny said, and just made up what the fuck she thought Destiny said, and was fighting a ghost. The conversation after with notsoerudite really made me think she was seeing things, or had become delusional.

[@Conantas]

​@@junioralvarado629 Destiny hypothesised that people's backgrounds and levels of sexuality may effect how a grape could cause trauma. That someone who has more sex may not be affected by a grape as much as a religious person. Brittany totally misinterpreted it and got triggered. She saw Destinys hypothesis as Destiny believing someone who has a lot of sex/open minded would not be traumatized by a grape. When that was not what he was saying at all. Euradite and Destiny explained Destiny's hypothesis to Brittany multiple times. A literal therapist even tells Brittany what Destiny is saying is true. Now we're here with Brittany thinking D man is evil based off a triggering convo

[@Hemlocker]

I don't think it's anything to do with how Destiny communicates. I think it's just the people he chooses to communicate with. He's said multiple times that he enjoys talking with people who are a little crazy, as well as younger people who are figuring their shit out mentally. It seems pretty obvious to me that those people would be way more likely to result in issues like this.

[@DB1Dragoon]

Yup

[@jonmacdonald2193]

Nah you guys are just autistic. Destiny portrays himself as a person who doesnt care when someone does something wrong to him. He did this with Farha, and the girl who called him a rapist. Obviously those things bothered him but it was isnanely hsrd for him to even admit that it bothered him

[@soakupthenoise]

I don't think it has to do with either of these things, I think it has to do with the harassment high-profile people endure for communicating with someone with the wrong opinions. They are pressured into cutting anyone off who seems too edgy even if they are consciously trying to resist that pressure. It's just too much for the average person to bear.

[@narutofan4545]

Tiny is also crazy

[@younggod5230]

When you say it like this "crazy young people who's minds aren't fully formed yet" almkst paints destiny as an honest to god groomer sex pest.

[@cambienvenu]

I really do think a major cause is Destiny is one of the few large streamers willing to deep dive with just about anybody. This results in what is almost a fast-forward on friendships. For most people true friendships tend to be cultivated over years of trust, and as such people will not do objectively shitty things. I do feel bad, it seems like this actually got to him quite a bit.

[@solar88cowboy]

very good take mucho like

[@ObscurasCozyCult]

The point is you can’t control or manage the way people perceive you no matter how many qualifiers you give. People like Lav, mr. Girl, and Brittany have their own narratives that act as a lense for how they view Destiny. It’s also the pitfall of choosing interesting and potentially unhinged people to interact with on a platonic or sexual level.

[@butterjujunut]

I found Destiny through Brittany. It's crazy to see how fast this imploded. I definitely didn't see this coming. I should have known though based on how the grape conversation went that something was going to happen with her. She definitely did not seem chill after you guys said you were both chill after that conversation. I'm not in the business of accusing people of having mental breaks but this seems like one of those BPD spirals that she had gone through previously. Unfortunately she'll probably double down and we'll never know.

[@x0x0skiller2]

Definitely it. Doesn’t absolve her actions, world view, or what she said. But it is noteworthy, especially since destiny is so hung up on rationalizing her train of thought, when irrationally is a key part of most mental illnesses.

[@kallenhager709]

And Destiny shutdown Kelly when she tried to bring up mental illness, but it was actually very relevant this time. BPD literally is "a pervasive pattern of instability of *interpersonal relationships*, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity" Brittany is smart and did understand Destiny, but she felt attacked with the trauma convo, emotions took over, now she is splitting

[@itachi60001]

@@kallenhager709 destiny said that he doesnt think personality disorders are mental illnesses so he just literally doesnt understand mental health on even the most fundamental level, if you are going to engage with people who their whole shtick is pretty much "im mentally ill and i make videos on youtube" without understanding mental health then ofc your friendships are going to suck dick, if you are going to trust these people and actually try to develop a relationship with them then a crucial part of that relationship development is understanding these odds patterns of behaviors instead of acting like a high schooler saying shit like "should i burn the bridge with her", but destiny just doesnt seem very interested in doing that and seems more interested in just farming drama with mentally ill people who say weird shit, but that obviously wont lead to any fruitful friendship in the end. Parasocial rant over, sorry for doing it as a response to you i just thought it was kind of related so i decided to post it here.

[@godursolamehahaxd9909]

@@x0x0skiller2 she's not bad bunny dude, holy shit. "absolve her actions" lmao

[@jodiegordon5559]

Just out of curiosity, who do you like better out of Brittany and Destiny, now?

[@tripplejaz]

It's crazy how well Melina actually understands Steven. I know they're married, but it really validates their relationship (despite its rockiness from time to time) that she understands and cares about him. And not to mention she was the only one giving him practical-concrete-to-do advice. /parasocial :^)

[@lunarlegacy3762]

She said nothing of value though. He interacts with somewhat retarded people it seems, thus boundaries go out the window. Dan had more practical advise regarding not being any where near as charitable and meeting people where they are

[@lampad4549]

She really misunderstood this situation, she tried to apply a blanket statement on how this all works, and was completely wrong, she should have looked at each situation, cause if she did it's obviously stupid advice to have better boundaries

[@insensitive919]

@@lampad4549 It's not about the nail.

[@Swagotissimus]

Damn😔

[@tripplejaz]

Welp

[@callmemar100]

How did Brittany manage to misunderstand destiny after talking to him for so long and then praise sneko after just knowing him.

[@jordanious7711]

?? Brittany has known Sneako way longer than Destiny has with either of them. Sneako even mentions britanny in their first ever talk together

[@ssb3556]

I think as always Dan is right about time being the only factor in all this. The average person might make 1 real friend in 2 or 3 years. I work in a place where a lot of people have the same interests and sensibilities and we get along well but I don’t make genuine friends through that. I think that really connecting with someone requires a perfect storm of characteristics and life circumstance. Destiny seems to have changed his outlook and now is looking for friends and a lot of people will respond to that because of his clout and charisma but that doesn’t change the fact that real friendships are very rare. Shit talking happens all the time in regular life and people are always judging other people’s relationships. He should be incredible happy that out of the 5 or so people he met last year and tried to be friends with he has 2 good relationships in Aba and Kyla. That’s more friends than some people make in years

[@jonmacdonald2193]

Dan is completely wrong in this situation. He literally said everyone is doing this out of malice

[@ssb3556]

@@jonmacdonald2193 yeah I think him always thinking people are clout sharking is dumb but I think his end advice is better than Melina and Kyla trying to push destiny into fixing a friendship that is probably not going to work. I think destiny is right that some things you shouldnt have to explain to people and I think that someone like Brittany that wants to run other peoples lives is gonna be very hard to maintain a friendship with

[@waduhek5994]

@@jonmacdonald2193 He didn't say it was malice. He said he doesn't know what her intent was, but that it doesn't matter. She did something you don't do to friends and that's reason alone to burn a bridge. Why would Destiny want to be friends with someone who thinks of him like that?

[@addiction4062]

​@@ssb3556 thats not melinas advice tho. thats something dan tried to strawman i.e. "i dont have to tell you to not kill my kid." theyre advice is to stop acting like hes above everything, thats how he comes off to all these backstabbers. destiny very much puts on the front of being a man of steel, unbreakable father, a machine. hes still trying to behave like cloud strife and hes succeeding at it which causes him these problems. people that arent a certain type like melina, mouton and dan will take his behaviour for granted. even later in this video he keeps trying to bring it back to the arguement and what brittany specifically said. when its really not about that. its about his feelings about this happening AGAIN. he was dismissive and forced them to watch the video when they were in the middle of giving solid advice about his behaviour and how it fucks his emotions.

[@Kuroganemk2]

I think that Destiny doesn't actually know what a friend really is. Like he mentioned that he talks about sensitive stuff with these people, tells them secrets which makes me believe that he things that that is enough, telling people things lol Like events like this are actually that show you who your friends are, not talking with people about feelings and your problems.

[@mark7736]

The boundary discussion was pretty mind numbing. Even if you accept that premise, cutting off someone who has treated you badly seems like the definition showing you have boundaries.

[@meks1478]

If you keep on having to cut people off, at some point you need to realize that you're the common denominator with all these relationships imploding.

[@baronesscisarovna1898]

I agree as a last resort in personal relationship that cutting someone off is the final enforcement of a boundary, I think the feedback that Steven was getting especially from Melina was that he needs to set and enforce boundaries or else the only tool he has to enforce boundaries is cutting people off which is extremely unhealthy.

[@Anbutou]

You guys are acting like "setting boundaries" is Destiny's fault when the boundary is hey, don't just fabricate problems? Don't imagine issues? Don't lie about me? This is literally a zero level issue. If THIS is something you need to be told then you're just a mongoloid who shouldn't be in society.

[@MrAlwaysOnTen]

@@meks1478 yesss and they barely said this

[@kavanasama4365]

That's a boundary after the fact, I think Mel's intention is that if Steven was assertive of these boundaries from the start,he won't have to have these bridges burn. ...even if these boundaries should be so extremely fucking obvious to some of his piece of shit orbiters.

[@peterranney9488]

This comment will probably go completely unnoticed, but I feel like a big part of this issue comes down to who Destiny chooses to "protect" when they first come on stream. All of the biggest blowups (Hasan, Bad Bunny, Trihex, Lav, Brittany, etc.) that have happened have been with people that he has exerted some leeway in favor of in his community. I think this goes in reverse of a normal friendship/relationship pattern where the longer the relationship is going the more comfortable you would be extending charity to the other person, where Destiny tends to be hyper charitable at the start and then people expect more with time, but there is no more in a public facing position that he can give. This is in contrast to the people that he has had rockier relations with at the start such as Jon Zherka, Tree of Logic, Sneako???, Pisco etc. These people took hard lumps in public and then stuck around, and because of that are much more resilient towards the way that disagreements come across. Best practices, draw up a "contract" explaining to new people appearing on stream that they won't get any special treatment or access to the community, and there is a chance that they will be made fun of by sad people on the internet. This would "set boundaries" in a positive way in regards to the community. It would also be good to include some language about escalation so that your potential debate partners would have an idea about how you see escalation and discourse. Love your content in general.

[@dragunov815]

Interesting.

[@audy2174]

This needs to have more likes, exactly right. I do think the new people appearing on stream probably get bombarded with negative comments just because of the more exposure they get from Destiny and they're not prepared for that

[@s4ifyn]

Destiny in 2023: "I'm hurt, I'm old and I'm fucking tired.. and I work with fucking children."

[@missybailey2046]

She can repair that bridge so long as the apology is as loud as the disrespect.

[@Stivvers]

The year of the boundary definitely didn't end how I thought it would lol

[@dimebaggy]

I think Destiny is someone who can separate emotion from what he believes. He can ask hard questions that go against his beliefs and not be affected emotionally by it. Most people are emotionally invested in what they believe, so when he challenges them. It feels like a personal attack, and they cannot come back from that. I can see this generally affected Destiny, and it's sad that Brittany couldn't just be up front with Destiny.

[@FullMetalAtheist]

I agree. She was way too emotionally invested to have an honest conversation about rape, having been a rape victim herself. She showed multiple times she wasn't capable of having an honest good faith talk about it without getting too emotional.

[@jonnyvelocity]

He likes to think so, but there are sacred cows for Destiny too.

[@Iwillreply]

It can certainly help when discussing topics that you already have formed opinions on, especially when considering those nearly opposite to your own. In my own experience, even just asking questions about another persons beliefs or even about a random topic or subject can often be perceived as a personal attack, and that often leads to them responding differently than if they were able to speak openly and without challenge. I can certainly see how the comparison bothered Destiny, who, even from my limited experience, puts a lot of thought and effort into discussing topics he's interested in or discussing with others. Also, it's unfortunate that Brittany chose to touch on a subject that many would argue is a position that should be approached with humility, and that is, giving advice you may or may not be taking yourself (this doesn't even acknowledge people who are working on taking their own advice, but aren't changing over night AND people you aren't around daily who show signs of improvement, but are easy to miss with limited interaction).

[@soccerwizard975]

I think Destiny is good at accurately assessing when his thoughts are fueled by a logical thought process or by his emotional state. Max and Brittany are smart enough to rationalize their emotion into their takes, but lack the emotional intelligence to understand that their emotion is biasing their take. Whether it be NPD or other mental illness BS.

[@damarihanson3876]

Yeah. A common thing that I see is that people cannot challenge the ideas that most associate to their personality or their experience. They try and have these difficult conversations, but are unable to detach to a far enough point to where they are unable to poke holes in their side of the argument and defend points for the other side.

[@Mysticvanee]

Letting zherka back in was a wild one for me after how he weaponized [Redacted] in such a nasty way. I don't dislike zherka but that was an super good example of the ongoing issue destiny is having.

[@wisemage0]

Zherka did stick up for stevie wonder bigly during Max's falling out. It doesn't undo the past, but I guess it gives more hope for the future? Dude's still fucking annoying, tho.

[@UnlimitedAuthority]

Look, I think Zherka is annoying as fuck like 80% of the time, but the guy absolutely worships Destiny, I don't think he'd fuck him over.

[@lavellelee5734]

​@@wisemage0fair

[@Naejakire3]

He's right about different people experiencing the trauma of SA differently

[@temba92]

its kind of wild that Britney would oppose this

[@Slikit2390]

At the 40 min mark he set and a boundary with Zherka and pushed on it when Zherka didn't want to comply, keep building those habits

[@Jhon47807]

I don't know what I expected. Dgg called it like a year ago, and destiny called them "asocial freaks".

[@matt_9112]

Same with Lav and MrGirl. Shizos gonna shizo, he just can't accept his own inability to spot them, which leads to these gaslighting session about how "intelligent" or w/e they are. Great content I wouldn't wanna miss though.

[@wooplaw1080]

It’s clear that she puts an enormous amount of value on individuals who talk to her specifically. That being said, it’s strange that she’s speak so matter of a fact about something that’s so easily disprovable. In no way shape or form is destiny less open minded than sneako

[@jokersdemise]

This will be known as the Night of the Long Boundary

[@DiscoInfiltrator]

He also dropped out of art (music) school. “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.” - Mark Twain

[@BboyJovi]

When are these drama series coming out on blu-ray? This Arc is crazy!

[@Summiel]

I think the biggest issue is that in person sneako can seem more genuine then what his online persona is and destiny is basically the same as he is on stream. I think the personable thing can make people think you're more vulnerable even if they are not in the grand scheme.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

I think Destiny does overestimate the average person's social intelligence and ability to navigate a relationship. I worked with therapists and speech pathologists growing up to learn the basics of good interaction and conversation techniques as a Social Work student. At least 80% of people don't even know that it is polite to reciprocate questions (or don't practice). The majority of people have no idea how to judge how interested the other party is about a topic or allow them to connect with it. Basic conversation skills as I was taught are actually uncommon.

[@meltedWax169]

Ouch .... where was this at?

[@avivastudios2311]

That's so sad.

[@puceplanet]

7:45 "I just need to abuse something" thank God Melina didn't walk in at that moment 😂🤣😂

[@yojou3695]

mr girl was like oh no i need to hide!

[@TecTitan]

I lowkey wanna make a bet this quote ends up in the article It's the quality of jab max seems happy with

[@jonathansaraco]

I wish Destiny asked Erudite to elaborate on her saying that because he's not establishing boundaries correctly, he's pushing away people that would otherwise be valuable. How is Brittany valuable in Destiny's life if she believes those things about him? I could get behind some of what Mel and Erudite were saying but that was the confusing part to me.

[@blacknyellow962]

WOW not the bridge I thought would be burnt that's insane. Of all people he's interacted with *recently* she seemed like one the last people I'd expect to go this road.

[@gggggggggg44100]

I belive aba is probably the most solid out of his friend group online atleast

[@TheButterAnvil]

@@gggggggggg44100 dude if aba flips im actually kms'ing

[@gggggggggg44100]

@TheButterAnvil would definitely be the beginning villain orgin story lol

[@suesanszu]

​@@gggggggggg44100 and Erudite

[@blacknyellow962]

@@TheButterAnvil Yeah that would be wild but I don't think we can expect aba to turn as he'd have no real reason to (at least on the surface from what we the viewers see).

[@HalobravoJJGaming]

This season of destiny has been great. The 3 people I really hated were mr girl, lav, and Brittany. Some others can be annoying but I don't want to see any other bridges explode. I thought us haters had it good with just mr girl and lav blowing up. What a surprise that we get 3/3 shot down. They lasted much longer than I would have hoped but it was a fun ride.

[@knes167]

With Brittany from my POV she's the same as the radical man-hating feminist she's just a watered down version of it and not as vile and aggressive. Know it all Karen air to what she usually says, comes off as really pretentious and obnoxuous

[@tpolutts3309]

I'm sitting here with matches and gasoline hoping the Kelly and iri bridges are next. Then the celebration can begin.

[@Firemanboth]

What about Kelly

[@Young2Kauri1976]

The Qorathanos guy is going to be another great super villain

[@claff4573]

Why do people dislike lav?

[@coloneljlol]

BRITTANY SIMON WON!

[@bobbyz9052]

Desnity - "I'm drawn to interesting people, sure some of them are crazy but I just want to have interesting conversations." Interesting Person - says some cray shit Destiny - surprised pikachu face

[@augustb.w.4778]

I think there is something to Melina’s idea that destiny needs to humanize himself because he does come off as someone who doesn’t give a fuck and can’t be hurt

[@Ni-boo]

Someone not being emotional gives people the pass to stomp on them?

[@augustb.w.4778]

@@Ni-boo well the implication is that it might seem like he doesn’t care what they say or do

[@Ni-boo]

@@augustb.w.4778 A person doesn't care if their friend or good acquaintance thinks the worst of them because they aren't outwardly emotional?

[@augustb.w.4778]

@@Ni-boo issue is that a fuck ton of his friends seem to do this. I would say that it seems pretty obvious that you shouldn’t shit talk friends. But to take a page out of destiny’s book if something keeps happening g to you maybe you should try to find the reason behind it along with the solution to it

[@Iwillreply]

@@Ni-boo See that's the thing I struggle with, I set boundaries with people plenty (just to be safe and not misunderstood), but I know plenty of people who already assume a lot of the boundaries I would've set anyway. I want to be angry with those who need to be told, but I understand it's not always obvious, and not every thinks the same and has the same experiences. Anyway, I don't think it's bad advice.

[@el4244]

Brittney wasn't happy that she couldn't move destiny. His personality and opinions are set in stone but she loves when people introspect and confess and move. That's why sneako is more open minded in her eyes because he opened up to her and made her feel important. She's not literally comparing sneakos and destiny's position on topics. But destiny's un-movable-ness makes her feel that he is more rigid in his views and behaviour. That's simply it.

[@hjge1012]

The worst thing about this is that we have to listen to Brittany again and the best thing about this is that it's possibly the last time.

[@justanotherjake1492]

Most annoying guest by far. Very very far.

[@koolarooo]

The other Brittany is 10 times more annoying honestly.

[@kiddanonymous8957]

I honestly saw Brittany's bridge burning before maxes but both of them took way longer than expected.

[@LNMBEATS]

same

[@MO-zk8qs]

Lol these types of comments are so weird and annoying like good job?

[@kb-4236]

I think Destiny’s problem is actually entirely different than what other people are telling him it is. I don’t think he cares that Brittany is speaking negatively about his relationships on stream or that he has bad opinions when it comes to sexual assault and sex work. I think what he really cares about is how when Brittany talked about those things she also made it implicitly and explicitly clear that she also thought his advice and experience were also negative. That because of his lifestyle and how he talks about these issues publicly, it precludes him from being a source of guidance and wisdom to not only his community but anyone who hears what he says. I think he ties his ego and self esteem very closely with his credibility and experience and how people view his credibility and experience. And when it seems or feels like someone else, who he considers a friend, is invalidating those things publicly his self worth takes a hit. That’s why it catches him so off guard that she’d say the things that she said. It feels like she’s attacking his character. Destiny might talk about another friend of his choices on stream as something that he wouldn’t recommend but he’d never try to also say that person isn’t worth listening to and isn’t capable of having good opinions about those choices.

[@deensama7718]

Destiny's tendency to paint himself as unbothered and having little to no boundaries effectively dehumanizes him in a subtle but (IMO) very obvious way. Everyone knows that everyone else has a line they don't want crossed somewhere, and most people have smaller lines and impressions that they give off in conversation. Since Destiny doesn't give off those lines in conversation (because he acts so unbothered and boundary-less) people wind up either being extremely skeptical of him as a person (since almost everyone who claims or seems to not have boundaries is severely mentally ill and/or maladjusted in some way) OR they take him at his word and end up pushing all kinds of 'normal' boundaries since he claims to enjoy a lot of that. It shouldn't be a surprise, then, when a percentage of people in the latter group take it even farther and cross serious boundaries. How are people supposed to know you have boundaries around bigger issues if you haven't demonstrated a capacity to set and maintain boundaries around smaller ones? Also I realized that Erudite said like half the things I wrote right after I wrote it, but I think naming it explicitly outside of the context of a live conversation is useful. Melina called it 100% too. I think this pattern is extremely obvious to anyone whos even been watching long enough, and it's probably felt more acutely by people actually interacting with Destiny. That demeanor, dramamongering, and leaning away from emotion is literally self-selecting for Brittanys and Lavs. I think people who struggle with personality issues can easily get subsumed in this type of shit and they're the same types of people who end up being unintentionally emotionally hurt and/or confused by it, which causes a rupture on the end of the more emotionally attuned person and leads to them lashing out in such an unexpected way. That unexpectedness hits the emotionally aloof party twice as hard because they're always leaning away from the parts of the relational experience that might queue them into what's coming. My personal theory is that the same qualities that would let you see a 'betrayal' coming also serve as protective qualities earlier in the relationship forging process, which is why you don't see otherwise well adjusted people go through this very often

[@HucklePeel]

Good comment

[@graycat7704]

Destiny is the type to say he’s not emotional when you can clearly see he’s emotional. I think the Lav situation for me really helped me see that this dude has problems recognizing his own emotions or when he’s uncomfortable.

[@cieply1234]

Destiny keeps engaging with crazy people (no surprise, they are interesting to talk to), then befriends some of them, and then is surprised when they turn out crazy. For someone intelligent he really seems to struggle with drawing any sort of conclusions when it comes to this aspect of his life. Brittany was/is crazy, it was super obvious to pretty much everyone. And such people can and will do crazy things, their brains just do not follow standard patterns of behavior, they are not consistent etc. And no amount of introspection on their part will fix the way their brains go haywire.

[@t-poison1731]

To be honest she seems to be the least schizo out of the bunch of burnt bridges (recently)

[@gggggggggg44100]

Welp you aint wrong

[@noammanakermorag9538]

Exactly

[@AVspectre]

I think that streaming like this tends to attract certain personalities, and that tends to lead to drama and solipsism.

[@imyournme6632]

Wrong he is the most socially competent out of all people in his community. I love how he is not aware how terrible he is at judging character.

[@tomat8030]

This is a total guess, but maybe she didn't mean open-minded, instead, she might have meant emotionally open, which are different, one is open to ideas and one is open to sharing emotionally difficult things. It's true that Destiny shares negative things about himself but the things he shares he has already processed so when he shares them he does so in either a joking or in a monotone manner because he is passed it. Sneako on the other hand is closed to ideas, but he does tend to share things that makes him emotionally vulnerable because he hasn't processed those emotions.

[@notan3144]

Given the context of everything else she said. It definitely sounds more like the former.

[@זיועזריה]

Am I the only one who thinks erudite and Melina are dead wrong? Some boundaries should be so obvious that even needing to voice them feels ridiculous

[@Conantas]

Dude why are you mad I told my parents you were a grapist, I thought you were chill??

[@brando8888888888]

It is a bit ridiculous but it’s never bad or wouldn’t hurt to establish some boundaries no matter how obvious they seem to u.

[@ignotuscapillary8313]

Obvious to you isn't always going to be obvious for other people. I think it's fine to err on the side of caution.

[@RS-fy9hb]

​@@brando8888888888 problem is where that line ends? At some point, you're actually just telling people to perform normal human functions. You cannot expect people to not be able to perform basic logical reasoning, and advocate for themselves in a relationship. Otherwise, you're actually just a guardian for that person, and need to treat them like retards. Some basic boundaries are okay to voice WHEN you know that they don't have the proclivity to set it for themselves.

[@Iwillreply]

@@ignotuscapillary8313 Exactly, communication is key, and setting boundaries is often overlooked, because we expect better from people. I've had to do it recently, and it was uncomfortable, and the individual did not take it well, but I felt better afterward that I made myself clear, and at least got them to agree to follow it along with making them aware of the consequences if they don't.

[@richardeknormis7688]

This is not a chronic issue! This is an issue with “new wave” streamers who cannot have a nuanced conversation without taking someone out of context or leaving a conversation feeling personally attacked

[@knes167]

Another youtuber I watch Eric July has a line he has to repeat often. Basically "They need me to be the person they think I am for their arguments to hold true, and I'm not" Ppl relying on strawmans of your actions and a selective memory to scrutinize everyone. You only realize they're using those 2 things if you saw what happened live(or chat logs) and then hear them say a bastardization of what really happened. Frustrating af

[@nicocee2431]

Immaturity is not a new wave lol

[@graycat7704]

I think this is a key point that is missing from this convo. Destiny is friends with debate streamer or people that like to discuss societal topics not normal people. It’s fair game for them because destiny literally acts like nothing hurts him and doesn’t have clear boundaries.

[@graycat7704]

Also many of these people are mentally ill

[@Jazzmaster1992]

I feel like the trick, sadly, is for streamers to be abrasive, argumentative, and super dogmatic about their points. I'm worried they wouldn't have as many viewers if people thought they conceded on too many points, so they have to double down a lot even if it doesn't make sense, and argue for the sake of arguing because it's what "fans" want.

[@aWildNelby]

Destiny’s relationship advice is usually pretty sound (from what I remember), however Destiny being the one to give the advice is akin to a fat nutritionist giving diet advice; Giving the proper advice, while ignoring it yourself (even while saying “Don’t copy me”), comes off in a weird way. Melina pretty much hit the nail on the head. A renewed focus on optics (since you disregarded that since a Vaush issue I believe?) would be beneficial IMO.

[@panacea.palace]

"Sneako talks to me about his relationship and destiny doesn't so sneako is more open minded"

[@AssailantLF]

The most confusing part of this drama is that Destiny and Brittany didn't have a conversation with each other. Why don't they just hash out their disagreement like usual instead of "bridge burning"?

[@knes167]

I'm not having as much charitability towards someone in the "personal and friendly" tier relationship as I would of someone whose a stranger ot just friendly with. The tier you were in you KNOW better than to think that of me like that I'm seriously "Okay with rape" and telling that to other people. Not tolerating such ignorant bs from my inner circle

[@AssailantLF]

@@knes167 ???

[@knes167]

@@AssailantLF ????

[@debrachambers1304]

I love when Destiny starts doing the Whiplash bit, and Melina instantly catches in and plays along. I've thought of making a similar joke before but didn't think any of the people around me would get it.

[@Blurredborderlines]

Normal people aren't usually autistic enough to appreciate that many levels in a joke

[@devalapar7878]

No, Destiny is more open-minded. But doesn't mean the same thing. When Brittany says Sneako is more receptive, she means he takes her advice seriously. But when you realize the advice is stupid, it doesn't make you open-minded, if you take it seriously, it makes you stupid. The problem is Brittany doesn't understand why her advice can be stupid sometimes. There are many reasons for that.

[@Caminacels]

I have to say, watching all of these very online people argue about who of them is the best at giving relationship advice is hilarious.

[@aWildNelby]

Sneako was more open-minded; He was so open-minded that his brain fell out.

[@andrejjelcic3675]

Friends all tried to warn me But i held my head up high All the time they warned me But i only passed them by They all tried to tell me But i guess i didn't care I turned my back and Left them standing there All the burning bridges that have fallen after me All the lonely feelings and the burning memories Everyone i left behind each time i closed the door Burning bridges lost forevermore

[@feelinglikea488]

i can feel the power of this comment coming inside of me

[@janoschii]

​@@feelinglikea488 I strongly advise you to let it flow out! It could otherwise lead to brain cancer.

[@zeno4538]

This was really really unexpected. Destiny once again showing me i can't predict how someone will act.

[@deensama7718]

I'm stunned how many people have this reaction to be honest. It's like people just wrote off everyone who was critical of Brittany as circlejerkers, when it seems kind of obvious that she threw off some red flags that Steven really skated by because he liked talking to her and because she speaks with personable energy

[@zeno4538]

@@deensama7718 I've thought about it more and im not surprised lol.

[@zeno4538]

@@deensama7718 When you value someones opinion and they tell you your opinion on something is dumb, and you know they're usually right, and it's public, and they're harsh about it, and you have an ego like brittany, some people can't handle it.

[@faded_taco1816]

1:01:25 didn't age well. Destiny said he didnt set enough boundries/requests from mel thats why the broke up.

[@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken]

It was more than just boundaries though. There were a lot of issues, but just from the limited stuff we know, a huge part of the issue was her also lying about and hiding things. Boundaries could have made it better, but that doesn't change the fact she was hiding and lying about things.