MrGirl Melts Down Over Lav Question, Accuses His Own Orbiters Of Being BRAINWASHED

[@destiny]

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[@wisemage0]

Hi, Destiny. I want to adopt you. You can be my daughter.

[@christiangasior4244]

Nah stop watching streamers and read a book.

[@zazathemagnificant883]

Hey I really love your content and I've learned so much you've actually helped me learn how to socialize in a way that's more productive then I have in the past. So thanks mate.

[@ChristmasLore]

Something everyone seems to overlook, and kind of change things regarding Max's motives: that year old Discord logs, where he speaks about how he feels about Destiny, and of how he will use him for money and clout....and he kind of did ... Max wasn't happy about that being brought up .... 🌿

[@briano9397]

Brodi do you really not get it? "You're praying on his downfall" If you stopped talking about him he wouldn't even exist and Shaelin would be in very much danger. She's lucky his attention is on the internet atm. Her time here is limited if you stop talking about him

[@zacharychristy8928]

Hello, I'm 34 years old and this is my 24 year old daughter. I adopted her because people kept holding her accountable on the internet.

[@devvejebaited3565]

This Level of insanity and cringe Haß never been seen

[@Anothershes]

This is the best comment

[@Anothershes]

Inte the historie of Internet

[@sumbigdumkunt]

Can anyone hear MrGirl call Lav his daughter and not cringe on molecular level? This dude actually sounds dangerous.

[@ri3121]

It's the cult playbook. An older person "adopting" a grown person (often girl) , because they are lost and looking for something to hold on too. Then from that parent relationship they can grow their cult

[@PODDEAD]

the weirdest thing is that lavs fiance doesnt say or do anything about it

[@goose5761]

Have you heard he makes 500k a year and let’s other dude clap his fiancé’s cheeks?

[@ImMarkiee]

That's the 50 thousandth red flag, certified dangerous.

[@aSSGoblin1488]

hope steven carries a concealed weapon "hey steven what a coincidence that you, nathan and melina are eating dinner here at this lovely restaurant."--- Max yeah "never talk about my daughter like that?" serial killer shit

[@chrisdrakes2332]

MrGirl is jealous of Destiny because he wanted to be the only man with a girls name.

[@reinhartdagr8108]

No way this won’t be a top comment.

[@24.7SMOKESHOW]

👀

[@joshuas830]

This ... this should be top comment ...

[@reggymcmonkey5737]

Underrated comment gah damn

[@MrZakXero]

This is all going to come down to Destiny abused Max by Fucking Lav when max was obsessed with her. The classic betrayal to an insane obsessed person.

[@4Y0P]

Max calling Lav his daughter sounds like step 3/10 of a cult indoctrination

[@Ril3yXD]

No that's like step 8/10, once you've started calling your followers your "children" is when it gets pretty weird

[@skraminc]

I think it might be closer to step 6 or 7. Harem and spicy koolaid seems very close to that level of cringe

[@Saintzel]

@@Ril3yXD no step 3 makes more sense cause it's pretty early on.

[@skraminc]

@Kwynn he seems like the kind of guy who would 'duper's delight' some fetish crap in as a serious statement. Like he is sneaking in his sexual devience with an unastable girl and he gets to announce it to a crowd but in a "sympathetic" fashion

[@apuapustaja1958]

Who tf is Lav (out loud)

[@Luminoish]

Honestly, LTG's take that all of this is stuff comes from Mr. Girl being jealous of Destiny having a hot wife and being able to sleep around is still my favorite take.

[@Curt-]

Where can I find this?

[@genshishio9316]

LTG is insane, but he’s funny af

[@iwannabethekid34xc]

Said "hot wife" gets to cuck destiny. Lol.

[@fancyteef]

My pet theory is that mr.girl is in love with Destiny

[@wisemage0]

Yeah, LTG tweeted something about how MrGirl is acting like one of his haters, or "a tiersexual" if you will. Seemed pretty accurate to me.

[@Casilios]

Max: I'm best for the job, because I'm very sensitive to abuse Also Max: It took me a year to understand that he was abusing me Cool story.

[@danielandree3947]

Lmaooo. Also “I have orbiters now, and you asking about how I could potentially being abusive towards lav, isn’t important, I am calling out destiny, for being abusive toward all orbiters, not just me, but all of them, but I claim I’m the best to do this investigation, but won’t answer about lav”…. It goes to show your mental state, if you do the same things to lav that you claim destiny did to you and others, you don’t actually care about the abuse to all orbiters, you’re not the “white knight” trying to protect orbiters like you say you are, it would show that you’re just on a personal vendetta because of the “abuse” destiny did towards you, and only you, otherwise you would understand that if you are abusive towards lav would be important to if you are the best to investigate…. Then, the whole “I refuse to answer how destiny abused me”. Two things 1) you’re making a claim, but refuse to say how, you’re holding a claim over someone’s head but refusing to give the details, how long will you hold onto those details…. You just keep making the claim to the public, but are refusing to explain how, that is abusive in itself 2) you claim you don’t have to tell the people you’re talking to how he abused you, because they already know… no, only lav and ana understand (ana might not even, since she has claimed that it was a 3 hour dog pile by you and lav to get that screenshot)…. The 20-30 other people you have “talked to” that have went to destiny and has told him about you trying to talk to them, and them ignoring you…. To the point you got blocked by one, and legit admitted to contacting them a second time on an alt account…. So no, no they don’t “know” what you’re talking about, because destiny has said that all of them has said he’s a weirdo and they aren’t talking to him… On top of that, you answering how destiny did abuse you, could be helpful for you, since you aren’t going to say the “sources” you have story, since they “don’t want to go public”, maybe, just maybe, if you say how he abused you, they would recognize that Steven did the same thing to them that he did to you, and they would then be more willing to talk to you and come forward….. He’s a narcissist, he legit wishes he was destiny, and this is all a personal crusade against him… honestly, I feel he truly wants to sleep with lav, she doesn’t want to, she doesn’t even want to meet up with him because he’s a creep, and he’s super salty that Steven was able to sleep with her, and he can’t.

[@Stinkfist69]

He told Steven he loved him only a few weeks ago. Now it’s abuse. Coincidence that when Lav spilled the beans about being sexual with Steven he then goes on the attack? Now he calls her his daughter knowing she has father issues is an abuse of power. He just wants to keep her in his corner. It’s cringe as fuck.

[@danielandree3947]

@@Stinkfist69 I think it’s a little deeper then that… I think he really likes her, and wants to sleep with her. I think he’s extremely jealous of Steven and wants to be him….

[@HAHAd2]

@@Stinkfist69 he’s mad that destiny banged his daughter

[@hurkamur1]

@@danielandree3947 I think that's what it comes down to doesn't it? He's jealous of the stank on the Cuban hang low, and he's annoyed that he's surpassed Crowder in the most punchable face department.

[@SomersBugtopia]

The best part of this is not having to pretend to tolerate Lav or Mr. Gaslight.

[@sathrielsatanson666]

Why did you do that before?

[@darkmoon137]

Mr. Girlboss

[@SomersBugtopia]

@@sathrielsatanson666 I never did, but most people who were skeptical did. Especially considering that Steven obsessively defended Lav and the community sort of had to fall in line

[@sathrielsatanson666]

@@SomersBugtopia I need sources for that, bruh. People were constantly complaining about and criticizing Lav.

[@kicksmechanic]

"OoOoOoOoOohHHhHhHHhHhhh"

[@Cid_1]

It's so insane to watch Max completely mald out, then 3 seconds later he put back his pseudo therapist voice back on 🤣

[@Stinkfist69]

He has so many hats he wears some might say he has multiple personalities.

[@henkdachief]

@Kwynn he is a sex offender

[@Katanagatari-b2o]

Somewhere in an alternative universe, destiny is a boy's name, and he became Mrgirl's son instead of lav

[@JakovLSSJ4]

MrBoy's son

[@largefuckingguy]

MissBoy’s son

[@internetenjoyer1002]

🤮

[@Stinkfist69]

Dab it up bro.

[@JakovLSSJ4]

@@Stinkfist69 on god I got just enough gas to get to blinkerton

[@wisemage0]

Every time MrGirl calls people defending Destiny "white blood cells" he's basically just admitting that he's been acting like a virus, infecting everyone around him.

[@ChristmasLore]

Tru 🌿

[@rome-tk5vd]

holy shit lol

[@CRWeaventure]

ZINGER 🎉

[@chillbluesnake7085]

Prosecutor: "So.... are you guilty?" Defendant: "No." Prosecutor: "Would you EVER commit a crime?" Defendant: "No." Prosecutor: "Oh...phew.... see, that's a thing that people want to see you draw a line for. Honor, i have no more questions!"

[@TheRealAdam23]

I laughed

[@TheRealAdam23]

Irl

[@chronographer]

I love the irony of Max complaining about a big streamer abusing power, while screaming over his orbitors to shut up, that they are brainwashed, and that 'this is going to kill your credibility!'

[@isamumizuta9226]

He addresses it by saying he never asked people to be his orbiter while conveniently forgetting that Destiny never asked him to be an orbiter😂

[@uUuWolf16uUu]

@@isamumizuta9226 its literally goddamn clown land. Mirror world

[@aguspuig6615]

while calling a grown woman and fellow streamer he has no blood ties to his daughter

[@thegyag3nda578]

You have to ask yourself why it wasn't enough for mrgirl to be her very close friend, he had to take on the father role with zero parenting experience of his own.

[@Namasknight]

He wants to grow his abuse harem.

[@CruelSun69]

@@Namasknight 🤣

[@karabelle67]

That's what cult leaders do, it's a family. He's the benevolent Father figure not the abusive friend or lover etc.

[@sathrielsatanson666]

@Beaver of the Pola is she? Because she behaves like a spoilt child.

[@BaldurOverlord]

His abusive is the experience:)

[@hotdiggedydemon]

Why is he still talking about Mrgirl and Lav after he said he would no longer be talking about them. Also girls name + ratio

[@davoutzinger]

Truly a moment in society

[@yourgrammarisnotverygood1827]

He changed his mind. It was more interesting to talk about then anything else at that moment.

[@herzeleid9525]

Well Mr Girl is basically stalking Steven. He’s messaging everyone that has been in his life calling him a predator.

[@basedtortellini]

Goofball moment

[@AsherGenesius]

This is definitely one of the hotdiggetydemon moments ever.

[@OhMyGoshua]

I don’t understand why 70% of these questions were asked at all. Half of the panel threw soft ball questions that seemed designed to protect mrgirl from himself. The other half seemed to just be there to call him an abuser in a pretty ineffective way… total clown show. I felt like no one really dug deep on any of the items where max is weakest and to the extent they did, they just were I’ll-equipped to push back on max’s responses with supportive info.

[@TonyMezaXD]

So you think you could’ve done better? Why didn’t you?

[@BassCannonSan]

@@TonyMezaXD He didnt say that you drongo

[@OhMyGoshua]

@@TonyMezaXD I actually had no idea this was happening. I was also flying home for thanksgiving at the time of the stream

[@OhMyGoshua]

@@BassCannonSan I didn’t say that but I would own that statement regardless.

[@OhMyGoshua]

@@TonyMezaXD I also think this format was so dumb. Having 10 (seemingly unorganized) people on at once to basically trip and fall over each other trying to get a slice of the cake wasn’t the best format for this imo.

[@tonjolley6422]

Destiny laughing, shouting "BASED," and overall feeling of being vindicated about correctly predicting Max's answers is pretty damn good.

[@debrachambers1304]

Lelouch Vi Britannia moment

[@Betty-jp7sw]

At the risk of sounding totally dumb...what does 'based' mean?

[@dvidSAS]

@@debrachambers1304 like saying “true”

[@KuromajikkuGaming]

@@Betty-jp7sw it is synonymous with word true. So anytime someone says a true statement or one you personally find true , that statement would be “based” to you. Also can be used ironically.

[@Betty-jp7sw]

@@KuromajikkuGaming oh ok. Thanks.

[@m0sth1gh37]

“Secret sexting” I’m pretty sure everythpe of sexting is private and not for the public…..

[@therainman7777]

lol, that is actually a great point

[@TheTGOAC]

Nah my wife and I buy ads in times square with nudes and our names all the time

[@hectorvergara3394]

That didn’t even occur to me but damn I gotta say that it’s a great point lmao not only a great point but it’s THE point that could have changed this conversation a lot

[@Anfallhund]

Hearing Max call Lav his daughter gave me the same physical reaction as when biting into a lemon.

[@SAMcGarvey1]

I'm coming out as an abuse victim, therefore any abuse I inflict upon the way is justified

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

Now you're getting it.

[@donset3627]

B A S E D

[@steveng6704]

If mrgirl finds no substantial evidence that Destiny is abusive, will he still believe Destiny is abusive anyways? I believe the answer is yes.

[@WanderTheNomad]

I've wrapped this baseball bat with cloth so any pain or injury I inflict upon you with it doesn't count. 😉😃

[@RectalDesign]

These people really couldn't just take an hour to watch deposition/testimony videos to figure out how to not ask garbage questions.

[@danielandree3947]

It’s because they’re Mr.girls orbiters… Mr.girl doesn’t want people who are actually smart and could see his BS and call it out properly, he wants people who throw him softball questions, agrees with him, and people he can personally dunk on…. He isn’t as smart as he thinks he is, he wishes he was destiny, he wishes he could have people with intelligence on the topics they talk about like how destiny does, but he knows he can’t actually take on people who actually knows what they’re talking about and can make good counter points or points in general that he can’t just brush off. He learned that from destiny… destiny showed him how he’s not really as smart as he thinks he is, he showed him how he can’t manipulate people who are smarter then him, when he wasn’t able to manipulate destiny, and that struck his nerve, when he realized destiny is smarter then he is, and isn’t able to be manipulated by him… because of that, he wants to try to be like destiny or look like he is, but he doesn’t want people smart enough against him.

[@he.5865]

@@danielandree3947 You're dumber than Destiny though. How would you know that he's not just spinning a narrative. Kind of convenient that his fans agree with him on everything.

[@danielandree3947]

@@he.5865 weird to assume someone’s dumber then someone when you’ve never heard them talk about anything at all…. Also funny that you say “all destiny fans”…. When you’re a fan of an admitted rapist, who has clear narcissistic tendencies…. Weird person to have as your “father” there champ…

[@he.5865]

@@danielandree3947 Firstly I believe it is an overwhelming rule that no one can be a fan of people like destiny w/o being dumber than him. Secondly, than is a word, you said then instead of than. Thirdly, destiny has said at some point (in the last year definitely) that basically every man including him has been a rapist at some point because of the pushing dynamic between men and women. Is he a self admitted rapist? I might try to find that clip.

[@danielandree3947]

@@he.5865 having a rule on someone being less intelligent then someone they watch, shows your own stupidity… There’s a difference between talking your way into sleeping with a girl, and full on grabbing their shoulder and forcing them down onto you…. Don’t try to act like you don’t understand the difference there. Truly disgusting that you try to use that line as an argument, as a defense of a self admitted rapist…. Lastly, you can have that rule, but then you have to follow my rule that anyone who’s a fan of mr.girl is extremely low on the spectrum, so you would have severe autism or downs…. Sorry it’s just the rules….

[@facekoo]

Jesus Christ this guy is legitimately insane, you'd think people would know better than to keep poking with him, he's going to get arrested trying to break into Destiny's house in his underwear some day.

[@noxxum]

I genuinely think Mr.Girl wants to cut off Destiny's face, wear it as a mask and bask in his popularity for a day. Big yike

[@Wallyworld30]

MrGirl is the real life unpants gnome. They really do exist.

[@OpiatesAndTits]

You remember that sex doll video? What he describes there is either a rape fantasy or necrophilia. In it he tries manipulate his mind ducked gf into letting him rape her on a schedule.

[@ChristmasLore]

Truuuuue 🌿

[@bean-pod]

@facekoo Yep. Except he'd be armed with a chicken breast, a piece of waffle and rubbing himself in peanut butter

[@King_Solomon_the_Libtart]

Investigative journalism means that you think something is there and you investigate and see if there’s something there. If nothing is there, there is no story. If MrGirl is gonna make the article anyway and is just looking for things to corroborate his story but if he doesn’t find anything, nothing will change, that’s not investigative journalism. That’s a hit piece.

[@scarletarmada5637]

Not to mention part of investigative work is presenting facts in a careful and fair way and as unbiased as possible. This guy's throbbing hate boner is reaching the ceiling at this point. The last person I would expect to give a reasonable testimony.

[@King_Solomon_the_Libtart]

@@scarletarmada5637 yeah… he says he consulted with professionals to make sure everything is done in the most ethical way but I guess none of them mentioned that the most unethical thing would be for the victim to be the one who is doing the investigation.

[@SometimesIGetAGoodFeeling]

MrGirl calling lav his daughter with such conviction is even more cringe than it is creepy

[@GoldenRyu]

I think this is one of those cases where one's first impression of someone only gets reinforced over time. Mr. Girl is a creep, through and through.

[@Ematched]

Yeah, that's because you don't understand nuance...or something dumb like that.

[@wyattoutlaw2370]

Why is he a creep? Sure there have been some edgy takes but he is always on point with his analysis.

[@jamesdecost6009]

@wyatt outlaw the things he says, and does are creepy to most normal people, and with enough charity, and “understanding mr girl” you can explain the behavior away as “a little edgy”, but there is a huge difference between being analytical, or edgy, and being creepy. However I would really disagree that his takes are on point, or analytical. Now I would 100 percent agree that he is emotional, and shares his emotions in a way to try to share them with his audience so he can appear to be honest in this sense, because most people find it difficult if not impossible to be so emotional about things you truly don’t believe in, so he sells authenticity. I personally don’t know him, and I don’t trust performers on the internet so there is no way I’m going to say he is actually authentic, but this is what he sells. I can give an example of how I disagree with max on his takes, he completely despises personal accountability, consent, and taking responsibility for your actions. He has said over, and over, even in this video that he despises this (in the video he criticized destiny as abusive for holding this as a fundamental axiom). This leads me girl to go after individuals like dr k, and destiny, because he has a problem with people “not taking care of other people when they are engaging in behavior that is harmful to themselves”. This philosophy is a far right wing philosophy used to justify not letting gay people exist (we know what’s best for you, and society). and leads to really bad outcomes when done. Yes there is a problem with reality tv, and reality internet stuff, and people exposing themselves to an audience in such a way as far as mental health goes, and people aren’t designed to be analyzed, scrutinized, and criticized by millions of people. Yes I could agree it seems on its face immoral for rich people or famous people to sleep with people, because people are infatuated with their money, or fame. However the alternative is far worse, and it’s quickly realized when you think of it for 2 seconds. Should rich or famous people not be allowed to have sexual relationships? Were do we draw the line on what’s too rich, or too famous to have hook ups, or sexual relationships? How far do we go with telling enthusiastically consenting adults they can’t do certain things like be on a stream with someone significantly larger, because the audience might not agree with them, and “dog pile them”. These things are societal issues not individuals issues, and attacking destiny or dr k for participating in societal norms, because you think the societal norms are wrong is another problem mr girl has. People on the left can even agree with mr girl complaints, but take these complaints to half the country and they would call you crazy, because to a lot of people adults being allowed to “drink non pasteurized milk” is a foundational belief in their morals. Take his complaint to its extreme if smaller streamers attack larger streamers to get clout, or for any other reason is it immoral for the large streamer to defend themselves from public attack, because the small streamer doesn’t realize how much hate they might receive? His morals would lead to a horrific society. Yes if something is physically harmful we restrict it, but stoping adults from doing things because it could potentially cause them to get upset (emotional harm) is insane.

[@Stinkfist69]

Max is a a master manipulator. Saying nobody else could do this better speaks to why he’s a Narcissist. Anybody else would be ideal outside of Max. There’s a reason conflict of interest is a real legal thing. Because it clouds all judgement & interpretation of facts. For somebody who claims to know Destiny so well he leaves out how much Steven has been harassed by other people/communities. Him originally seeking out Steven was him reaching for clout after his Cuties clout died down.

[@Ematched]

@@Stinkfist69 Max also ignores the great lengths Destiny goes to before he brings someone on his stream, letting them know that it can get combative to make sure they're comfortable with the situation. Max is being a real piece of shit with all this.

[@Bob-cc7rd]

I'm with Aba.... Mr. Girl has psychopath vibes..... he's genuinely dangerous, and their fan base reflects an unreasonable expectation of others. Most of the Mr girl fans ive heard are so open minded I think their brains have fallen out.

[@NudeSophist]

Didnt Aba threaten to stab MrGirl if he ever saw him in real life?

[@aSkymne]

No one has described MrGirl fans so beautifully before

[@Bob-cc7rd]

@@NudeSophist if you don't have at least one person in your life that you've said the same thing of, then are you even living? Lmao. Seriously though, this isn't a wild position if Aba feels the character Mr. Girl, and Max Karson are on in the same. I personally feel there's a fair chance mr. Girl could shoot someone like Fuentes, and call it a moral act, or say something about how murder has its merits

[@Coffeewiththegods]

@@NudeSophist no

[@NudeSophist]

@@Bob-cc7rd Its not a wild position to say you would stab somebody if you ever see them? I wouldnt even say that if I was legit afraid of someone on the chance it just provokes them more, its just totally indefensable. If Aba is willing to say something like that then has literally shown himself to be as dangerous or more than Max, just for reasons you seemingly support. If you cant admit that I dont know what to tell you. Max is unhinged sure but he hasnt proven to be actually dangerous, afaik he has never made threats like that before. Really just imagine you dont know MrGirl and just re read what you said, you are literally sitting there defending a murder threat by saying the person threatened is SO crazy he might do what you are in the process of doing in your own comment. I get that Max is a crazy narcissist, but dont let the way he makes you feel push you into punch-a-nazi territory, its not worth it. Narcissists want nothing more than to be crucified by the people who dont like them, it IS what gives them justification for the things they do.

[@catterpitter]

The craziest part was when Mr Girl called that guy brainwashed and one of the other panelist just blindly agrees with MrGirl. Do theses people no hear themselves at all?

[@oxycuntin2059]

funny you say that. i have experience with narcissism up close and not all narcs are like this, but she in particular had a pattern of reeling in people to the level of dependency, then she would get more and more angry at them being dependent, then she would reject them, and then she would do anything to reel them back in. this pattern could go on for decades with her kids, but also partners and friends and everyone. we see the pattern, but we have an aerial view. without attachments or irl impressions. in the moment people dont see how they're fucked with. hes not stupid this is how it works.

[@oxycuntin2059]

FaMiLy vAlUeS 🫀

[@martincerny3294]

They are mr Gaslight fans, what do you expect?

[@danielandree3947]

I love when mr.girl say “I refuse to answer that” Then gets so angry and aggressive and tell someone “answer the damn question”… You are accusing destiny of being abusive towards his orbiters, and wants to end that, yet you, yourself in this interview right now, are being abusive towards your own orbiters…. The irony is palpable.

[@WizzKidxKOx]

Yeah but those orbiters aren't streamers right? So there's no work or sex power dynamics?

[@Petemossfunguy]

@@WizzKidxKOx sounds like abuse is back on the menu.

[@pasadenapossum8054]

Letting mel chose where they live is a prime example of destiny's abusive behavior

[@Olodus]

"As long as you let me abuse you we can live anywhere. Anywhere with a solid power structure will be fine. I will go in through the door say hey what a nice place with four walls and then I'm gonna say down into the basement to you"

[@joshuawinstead7621]

Having sex with girls mel tells him not to and sexting ana which mel told him not to do is an example of abusive behavior

[@zeekawesomecus917]

@@Olodus except they live in Florida where there are no basements. At least not in Miami. Up in the attic you go maybe?

[@zeekawesomecus917]

@@joshuawinstead7621 can't tell if you're serious or not. But Mel didn't tell him he couldn't sext or talk to Ana. Her only problem was that she had remembered asking him if he was and from what she remembers Steven denied it. Which if he did, then ya thats bad. But not abusive. But she had clearly said she doesn't care if he was sexting her, she just doesn't want him hiding anything.

[@joshuawinstead7621]

@@zeekawesomecus917 It is abusive but ok, this isn't his first rodeo of doing something outside of melina's boundaries. She also does not want him sexting her

[@js1692]

Yes of course! How did he know I wanted EVEN MORE MR GIRL AND LAV CONTENT?! Just what every Destiny subscriber wants!!!

[@velox__]

pepeW chills

[@24.7SMOKESHOW]

Riveted

[@SuccDucc]

Be mad, but the numbers don't lie doe

[@vikkipink1288]

Seriously how is going to say he can’t be friends with orbiters and then proceed to claim lav as his daughter? Wtf? It’s amazing how manipulative he is. Holy shit. I don’t know how anyone could not see that for what it is.

[@tilted_axis9819]

It blows my mind that the entire debate bro sphere built Max up when the whole audience was saying he was a loon. Also how has Lav’s fiancé not taken her offline at this point? Edit: I now know she didn’t move in

[@tilted_axis9819]

@@loan-shark she moved in? I thought he just wanted to meet her irl. Again, how was that allowed to happen, it’s getting culty.

[@sillylittlesheepjax6009]

@@loan-shark she doesnt

[@delos2279]

That's why I could care less about this drama. We already saw it with these people so there's nothing at all surprising or interesting about what they're doing now.

[@crw1367]

Bro the audience did not see this coming, the whole drama witg the war started because there was a lot of destiny fans dick riding mrgirl, hindsight is 20/20

[@tilted_axis9819]

@@loan-shark living with him or not, the “daughter” and name change shit is still really cult like

[@thatdude1243]

"My power structure is not abusive like Destiny's because I just wouldn't do that" - Intro to dodging the question by my girlfriend, written by max; 2022

[@skraminc]

🤣

[@kwace_7745]

Honestly, I think that Destiny saw a little twinkle in MrGirls eyes that said "i want this emotional abuse" and had to push him down into emotional abuse.

[@fatnose0]

LUL

[@JBTFan124]

Called it on the last video. This question guy is 100% going to back Maxx regardless. His questions are so absurdly softball other Maxx orbiters are getting frustrated with him.

[@thatdude1243]

"I refuse to answer your questions on the account that you are brainwashed" - rebuttals made by my girlfriend, written by max; 2022

[@thebarkermc]

I honestly can't articulate, as a father of a daughter, the cold shiver and cringe that came across my entire body when he said "don't you ever talk about my daughter that way".

[@drewsclues5119]

I’m still lost on how you can adopt someone that’s fully grown and has their own fiancé, I personally wouldn’t let that slide

[@0therwisesleep522]

The only time I’ve heard of adults adopting each other is when cult leaders adopt their followers. Or that one weird clip of the 50 something dude roleplaying full time as a 6 year old girl. Either way, not an indicator of a healthy relationship between stable people.

[@ForeverMasterless]

@@0therwisesleep522 Many of the best emperors of Rome were "adopted" as adult men by the current emperor.

[@jaema8281]

@@ForeverMasterless tbf i probably don't want to be replicating the social/personal lives of most Roman emperors

[@hdudidi]

@@ForeverMasterless this is not that lol he is not the head of a country picking his successor, he’s a freak rapist on yt obsessing and spiraling publicly

[@MasteRgamer-mk5bp]

@@jaema8281 I mean Caligula was pretty based

[@JBTFan124]

At 1 hour and 2 minutes, Maxx completely changes his entire position on friendship power dynamics in real time because he can't rationalize his last position against a softball question. Unreal 1:06 OH SHIT HE'S FULLY UNRAVELLING

[@pete6300]

Mr Gaslight consistently reiterates the his version of what you're saying until you agree with him. It blows my mind how many people fall for that manipulative tactic. It's like none of people can remember what they said or are trying to say. So they just agree with Mr Gaslights version and that's the only way he continues to "win" arguments. I find it hilarious that his fan boys overlook him constantly hanging up on people that reject his framing while he's complaining about destiny not taking his demands seriously.

[@napoleondynamite6993]

Like that name for him lol. I also like Mr. Btch as well.

[@shortafroman4]

Oh holy JESUS I thought he had a daughter I simply didn't know about in his personal life. He's talking about LAV like that? The list of alarms going off due to the *fervor* of him demanding people not talk about his *daughter* just doubled jfc Shiny crimson bleeding alert.

[@baskoning9896]

Their follow up question should be: 'do you fantasize about having sex with your so called daughter'

[@jaketomasello5102]

This is 2.5 hours of Destiny predicting what Mr. Girl is going to say next and being right basically every time

[@catjohnson2522]

“If you ask me anything that makes me look bad I’ll just leave” lmaoooooo that’s basically what he said 🤦🏼‍♀️😂

[@panacea.palace]

This is the problem with narcissists, no matter how hard you try you can never pin them down. They will always wiggle out of whatever box you try to put them in. It's an exercise in futility

[@ChristmasLore]

Zherka no brainer head on approach worked pretty well: that's the one thing narcissists can't take: a taste of reality, the truth hitting them full frontal 🌿

[@lukaswithakay]

@@ChristmasLore Yeah, you can’t ask weasel questions. You have to approach the conversation knowing full well they’ll be bad faith.

[@Ventanty]

The funniest part of all of this is, is how MrGirl felt mistreated about the amount of access and control of the narrative he should have on Stevens sub-reddit. The even funnier part I support the idea of being strict on a subreddit. I just don't agree that it's should stem from a narrative POV. But even the DUMBEST person would realize that it's Stevens subreddit, ergo he gets to choose to do whatever he wants.

[@paulyballybouncesoffthewally]

Smeth is the funniest name. Makes me picture the servant of some optimistic but ultimately unsuccessful villain.

[@YemYum]

i feel like in a couple years there will be a "down the rabbit hole" episode of mrgirl and his insane manipulation/cult behavior.

[@TepidSoup]

More like Red Tree Crime interrogation footage.

[@ConfTW111]

Not really a cult when his community calls him out constantly

[@TheTGOAC]

I feel like he's gonna end up on JCS first

[@Moi1edspi1k550]

How any of these people can still support MrGirl after this call is beyond me.

[@razzle_dazzle]

When your own fans are saying "bro, wtf are you doing?", you know you've messed up.

[@RyanPhoenixAZ]

1:57:00 remember, Destiny gives relationship advice to people. Dude, it's important to her that the 2 of you pick out a place to live TOGETHER. Soon you'll have to go out and look at a place but you'll be the one doing it by yourself

[@Zren89]

Yup, he's caught up in himself and his reactions to what's going on, instead of realizing that she wants his company as well as his input. It's an important decision.

[@TwilightSentinel]

Mr girl keeps talking about unethical power dynamics and their relationship to friendships. Yet this freaking dude adopts lav and keeps calling her his freaking daughter, literally creating a power dynamic. What the bleep.

[@Camper2625]

Imagine being called someone's "Orbiter"

[@neverusingthisagain2]

Imagine being called a chatter. Pathetic

[@Suhmantics]

I will jump with joy when smeth finally realizes he has no clue what he's doing and decides to stop getting involved.

[@MrNighNight]

There is a guy in the A Song of Ice and Fire book series called Gerold "Darkstar" Dayne. He is one of the principal characters on my list of "too edgy, can't be real". He literally said this: "I was weaned on venom, Dalt. Any viper takes a bite of me will rue it." When I saw MrGirl acting somewhat like this in real life, my entire concept of cringe and human beings converged and collapsed into itself.

[@kingad8869]

Damn man, now you're making me dislike Darkstar 😔 (and he didn't cut Myrcella.)

[@MrNighNight]

@@kingad8869 HOOOOLY coperton💀

[@leadfaun]

@@MrNighNight he didn’t cut Myrcella.

[@MrNighNight]

@@leadfaun Fuck, I didn't want to ruin the meme, but yes, I'm aware that he most likely didn't.

[@leadfaun]

@@MrNighNight based

[@neidrider547]

I love unhinged Destiny watching Drama about himself unfold. I think with great pain comes great content

[@Altitudes]

I loved when he said "All roads lead to Lav" but then immediately made it out that it would be unfair to ask him any more questions about Lav. None of this is really about MrGirl, it's all down to Lav. But he won't answer questions about that. And they just let him get away with that.

[@sm1921]

Max is probably going to show up at Destiny's house drunk brandishing a firearm at this point

[@SomersBugtopia]

"Why are you afraid of me Steven? If we were truly friends you would let me put a gun to your head right now. You should trust me. This is abusive behavior"

[@TonyMezaXD]

Why would you even say that?

[@acew2306]

No, I think he needs to destroy Destiny in such a way that others recognize him as correct and justified in his "crusade."

[@Bob-cc7rd]

Yeah.... I'm genuinely concerned he'd do something like this, and then try to make it about questioning our justice systems "obsession" with human life....

[@ChristmasLore]

That's Aba's fear, and I share it. Glad Dan has an open carry permit, and that when Steven goes out for diner, they're often together 🌿

[@nickmoesq]

Destiny is wrong about Mr. Girl not acting out of spite. Destiny is close, but he does not have enough experience with narcissits to understand him as well as he thinks. Mr. Girl genuinely believes he is a victim AND Mr. Girl is absolutely fueled by spite. Both can be true at the same time. Destiny is guilty of the cardinal sin against narcissists -- He told Mr. Girl, "no," and followed through with it. Destiny did not bow to Mr. GIrl's demands to shield his orbiters from being "dogpiled". Once it was clear to Mr. Girl that Destiny could not be manipulated out of that position Mr. Girl had to "wage war" against Destiny (not just the sub reddit). Every action after that was in service to Mr. Girl's insatiable need to regain control to get what he demanded in the first place. When you say, "no," to a narcissist or set up any kind of boundary, if they know they cannot break you or manipulate you into doing what they want, they will do everything they can to destroy you and your reputation. Mr. Girl genuinely believes he is a victim because, to a narcissist, there is no such thing as personal accountability unless it helps them get what they want. Mr. Girl cannot conceive in his broken mind the possibility that he is in the wrong. Mr. Girl has crafted in his mind the narrative that he is not the reason why he is being "dogpiled" by Destiny's community, rather, he is being "dogpiled" becasue Destiny's goal is to bring on new orbiters, shit on them and make them look stupid, sick his community on them, and sit back while laughing and beating off to their pain. The reality is, that is how narcissists operate. This is a projection. Narcissists get off on the pain they cause others. Don't believe me? Watch the joy in Mr. GIrl's face and the way he laughs at his abused girlfriend when he breaks her down to tears. Destiny told him, "no," would not protect him, and would not give in to his demands so Destiny had to be destroyed. Mr. Girl found what he thought was the perfect tool to destroy Destiny: Destiny's victimization and "sexual abuse" of Lav and Ana. Unfortunately for Mr. Girl, that did not pan out so well for him becasue those two have severe credibility problems (that's why you see him distancing himself from them and pretending that their credibility is irrelevant). If he wasn't operating out of spite, he wouldn't double down and continue with his "investigation" and he would have looked at Lav and Ana's stories with a far more critical eye. Because he sees himself as a victim he will go on one crusade after another out of spite hoping one of those crusades will bring Destiny down. Make no mistake, he doesn't care about Lav, Ana, or any other "victim" on Destiny in the slightest unless he can get something out of them.

[@JoannaS1320]

This really means nothing now: I seriously felt the WORST vibes coming from MrGirl the first time I saw Destiny bring him online, same went for Lav (though for a different reason). Tbh that video between him and his mind controlled girlfriend still haunts me. I kind of hate that I was right and Destiny got betrayed the way he did and for literally the dumbest reason, that declaration of war was beyond stupid. For a guy who prides himself on seeing and sensing things to such an extent he sure did f*** that sheep. And boy these were some real hard questions for MrGirl, it's almost like a cult briefly questioning their leader only to basically be told to "stfu and do as I say" and them all go "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! MAKES SENSE! STOP THINKING!" jfc

[@AlGhoul]

1:06:50 It's funny, because he left Destiny's discord because of being "dogpiled", and now is baiting his fans into dogpiling him. He's looking to be the victim so he can come out the hero. It's so weird when narcissists have victim complexes and savior complexes at the same time, and yet this guy exemplifies the paradigm perfectly, it seems.

[@HaleyStark.]

He went from "i love you destiny" to "i still care about his wellbeing" real quick.

[@neverusingthisagain2]

It's going to be so hilarious when the article just says 'psych, i said i would never betray him.'

[@Yaldi93]

I just recently found destiny’s content about a month ago and somehow I’ve now gone down this rabbit hole. I don’t know much about anyone involved but just from the outside looking in that MR girl dude seems very u unhinged. I’ve had my fair share of run ins with narcissists and he’s a red flag. The daughter thing is so weird what the actual hell. He’s got that victim complex as well as hero complex going on. Narcissists are so manipulative but they usually trip up because they are often not as smart as they seem.

[@2BVayne]

This really started because he got banned on the reddit for saying Destiny is a woman's name.

[@unintentional_smile]

This is precisely the unhinged ✨content✨ I signed up for.

[@bentinbama1]

Jesus christ I'm not a destiny fan per se but I hope he beats mrgirl into the ground...this mrgirl guy is insane and while I have political differences with destiny I still respect him

[@SJNaka101]

Yea but is it responsible to respect a man who has a girl's name?

[@Wallyworld30]

I knew MrGirl was an abusive control freak the first time I saw him stream. My sister sadly is attracted to that exact personality type so I've dealt with it first hand. They always have a great first impression need to be center of attention. They act like they can read your mind. It devolved with my sister to where he was texting her hundreds of times a day at work accusing her of cheating. She came home all her shit was in the front lawn set on fire. They go completely off the rails. MrGirl will not go quietly into the night.

[@thoticcusprime9309]

politics are pointless trash for stupid people

[@SketchyJesus]

This whole drama is a great study of narcissism, gaslighting, manipulation, delusion, irony, big words not meaning big intelligence, cultism, actual abusive behavior (from Mr. Girl to Lav/Shaelin/Anna/Mr. Girl’s orbiters), emotional manipulation, mental health, misplaced victimization, and misplaced ego all in one.

[@7ChaosTheory]

Congrats on your unique recognition on the internet space, Mr. Girl. You will be remembered.

[@nyoin2028]

Who?

[@Bob-cc7rd]

No... he'll be a foot note in another content creators list of sussy YT'ers. He'll be luck if DGG memes about him two years from now.

[@sathrielsatanson666]

...you will be remembered as a psycho and a creep. FTFY

[@UTO7]

Nah he'll be a "literally who" in probably a years time.

[@asya-35987]

@@UTO7 think thats the joke. i doubt anyone but his dick riders care at this point

[@henryburton6529]

I 100% dont believe a word Max says. "I dont hate him" "I'm not trying to hurt him" lies lies lies

[@thatdude1243]

"I don't want to define my version of abuse because people might say that I am using the word in a weird way"-explanations by my girlfriend, written by max; 2022

[@MrGman543]

I have no idea what blinkerton is or why he’s saying it but I was laughing uncontrollably when Dan joined and told him to stop.

[@youtubeenthussiast328]

Holy shit the "do not talk about my daughter" isn't about his actual child and about lav 😂😂😂 wtf this guy is crazy

[@baskoning9896]

MrGirl is so hard confessing thru projection. Perhaps we should dig up his past. He gives me a lot of ... abusive and manipulative and gaslighting vibes. I would not trust my teenaged niece to go anywhere near that dude. I want to bet 100 bucks right now that he has a huge amount of skeletons in the closet. Some might even be minors. He talks like a pedophile. Slow. Acting as if he cares. Acting as if he is the good one. That only wants the best for people. While in fact he is hunting them.

[@popermen694]

It’s so irritating. They talk to him like he never lies.

[@AvrageAndy]

“I’ve noticed a pattern” sounds like a conspiracy theorist.

[@ethanschwartz9462]

Mr. Des Tiny is back to give us content ❤

[@Maelthorn1337]

I seriously love Destiny's energy in this video. fr fr. I miss it.

[@spectrumics1102]

Maybe im crazy but like the first guy's questions were not only trash but like even when they had a moment where Mr. Girl said something wack he just went 'oh yeah cool cool yeah that makes sense thats fair' and moved on

[@hooplaboii15]

LMFAO Destiny spitting Yodie memes all video is like that uncle that think he down with the gang 😂

[@fenrir9404]

I really feel bad for Lav's fiance in all of this. Apparently mrgirl is his father in law now as well.

[@strangeTV1]

L O L

[@godiebeard]

Don't feel bad he's probably shitty too

[@AcidPatchHD]

On God this video is so BASED !. Like, For real for real. I dig this. I be listening to this in my whip on the way back to my crib in the hood.

[@sjege]

Lav has so much power over certain creators, she could take away thousands of dollars in sponsorships. For Max to say she isn't in a position to abuse others is so wrong

[@iz2333]

Yeah she's getting treated like some tiny no one when she's had a huge platform for years.

[@lirruping]

wtf is this "pit of spikes" business re erudite and brittany simon? It's like he's saying: "I didn't realize publicly calling her a Nazi Cult Leader would have actual implications for her! I thought it was just fun and games... Because Destiny?"

[@pthorodactyl9746]

Smeth just shot his own credibility in the foot here. Mr Girl is stood there taunting them because smeth is holding them back from actually attacking him with hard questions. Literal controlled opposition.

[@deepergodeeper7618]

remember this people LAV STARTED ALL THIS

[@marilenalatifi1600]

Twitch is such a weird group of humans.

[@Jalmerk]

Mr Girl comparing himself to one of ”Weinsteins starlets” made me snort laugh out loud at the office and now people are looking at me funny

[@gregorygriffin9582]

So did he actually legally adopt Lav or is this just really weird?

[@AssailantLF]

yes

[@TheJordanK]

“You wouldn’t advise me to drink water?” My fav question 😂

[@LunaTulpa]

"do you have an alt account?" *continues talking for minutes, brings it up out of nowhere* "if you DARE bring up me having an alt account and not immediately start talking about it I WILL leave"

[@matt_9112]

They should've pointed out how he abuses the employer-emploee relationship between them there (at least as far as orbiters and not strictly fans are concerned).

[@stretchimus4357]

It’s insane the whole father daughter dynamic mrgirl has over Lav, it reminds me of a pimp. Explanation is I truck drive, and we take classes occasionally in regards to xes trafficking being there’s a lot of zones through the US where we have eyes and that also tend to be heavy with it, and one video I remember went into a victims experience, the FBI agent on their case gave the explanation of the father/daughter dynamic in that realm of criminality. They don’t refer to their girls as “hoes” or “rostitutes” (at least in front of them) rather they establish a fatherly connection to them especially being they’re obviously broken away from their families and in their grasp. Idk, could be a far cry, not so much the trafficking portion but the mental abuse of it definitely reminds me too much of the agents explanation when I compare lav and mrgirls “relationship”

[@larryallen4902]

Wicked Supreme would be MUCH BETTER at asking this guy questions.

[@yawgg]

Everyone's taking about the MrGirl and Lav father daugher cringe, but no one is talking about old man Steve trying to be hip with the kids. CRINGE and BASED!

[@LamesAMA]

I dislike the meme that Destiny is a bridge burner. It's usually insane people like Mr[REDACTED] who cannot handle human interaction where the other person doesn't put up with huge amounts of abuse that actually burn the bridges.

[@ForeverMasterless]

Based and true.

[@ChristmasLore]

True 🌿 (And rather easily debunked...he's got some solid old friends)

[@supermanstud23]

I can honestly the best part about this video was the Destiny commentary, fucking hilarious!!

[@_odsy_]

how did steven actually predict 95% of everything mr girl was going to say

[@neverusingthisagain2]

Because destiny has already admitted to everything max ia accusing him.

[@acheros5658]

Because he prewatched the livestream

[@eeittee3737]

Bro I sometimes come back to this video just to hear the bits about blinkerton city and hitting the penjamin they're so good.

[@mystbourne3636]

A couple thoughts that I’m just putting out there. Max sets the same barriers around his fans and moderators as a therapist would with his patients. You could effectively substitute fans with patients. Also just because it’s different from what Steven does doesn’t mean it protects his fans or orbiters.

[@PureDreadd]

This Mr. Girl saga is basically Star Wars at this point. Princess Destiny, and return of the sith lord Mr. Girl

[@jloiben12]

Why did it take so long for Destiny to realize how bad Mr. Girl is both in terms of the positions he holds and in how he engages with the world?

[@SomersBugtopia]

Because he was blinded by the proposition of being the one person willing to engage with such a bizarre outsider. He's also drama obsessed so he focuses on content before having orbiters that can be healthy and enagage like normal people. It's a bummer because Destiny seems so much smarter than this but is hyperfocused on "being charitable" to a fault. Which is how we had Lav and Mr. Girl and the new Uncle Ruckus woman.

[@jloiben12]

@@SomersBugtopia This is as good of an explanation as I have seen

[@FreekinEkin2]

Because he tries to interpret people in the best light, the issue is that Destiny definitely forgave too much. The point when Destiny should have said "ok, no more" in my opinion, was when Mr Girl said gay people don't exist, and that because he is bisexual everyone secretly is. That level of projection and unwillingness to accept that people's internal experiences are completely different to his is not just a red flag, it's the actual problem. But Destiny tied to interpret it charitably, because there is a charitable interpretation of most of the things Mr Girl says.

[@jloiben12]

@@FreekinEkin2 I think what you said could illuminate a bigger point. Just because there is a charitable way of interpreting a thing doesn’t mean that is what the person is trying to say/do. Mr. Girl exemplifies this. He told us who he was basically from the start and Destiny more or less just said I don’t believe you

[@romnesia7729]

Because for some stupid reason, some of his fans think that people who are "Interesting" are worth advocating for and keeping around. If MrGirl is interesting, I'm sure some Adolph Hytler and Jefferey Dahmer would also be considered interesting. No reason to platform MrGirl. We as fans need to set our bar higher