Lauren Manifesto Leads To Fuentes Shouting Match

[@destiny]

Lauren Southern Manifesto Leaks All ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/jniXiZZ6m7mLgcU

[@eddierabinovich779]

Love you August :)

[@FamiliarAnomaly]

The problem isn't women vs men it's fem vs masculine. Feminine personalities shouldn't be in leadership or authority roles because they are inherently WEAKER people. Our society cannot come to terms with this reality because it inevitably means that the majority of leadership will be the highest IQ/potential/functioning males with a rather small representation of women. Men that are feminine shouldn't be in the military, shouldn't be surgeons, shouldn't be pilots, etc... and neither should feminine women. The truth is the bell curve differences between men and women when it comes to leadership only really apply to the upper 5% of the bell curve and this is where men exponentially out perform women. Our society just cannot come to terms with this because it's antithetical to their new religion/cult of EQUALITY and EVERYONE IS THE SAME. All bullshit. Feminine societies self destruct and that's what's happening.

[@andrewsmith3257]

@@FamiliarAnomaly 💯

[@Adam444Tv]

She got divorced …. Nick was right

[@nakedmongoose6837]

These two were separated at birth.

[@digipoke12345]

Fuck sake, I giggle every time says 'let's go' whenever Steven calls him a fascist or Nazi.

[@John-X]

Ikr?! How can you not like Nick?

[@Wuking93]

@@John-X easily

[@rememberme3762]

@@John-X cause they're soft

[@flowingwind2199]

Who Stevem

[@SomeOne-yo1hh]

@@flowingwind2199 destiny

[@ryanwilliams9712]

Bruh I gotta stop watching the Clip channels I'm getting the main content too early and cucking August

[@alimneimne]

I saw this debate posted on 2 other channels like a week ago

[@Balls_on_Chin]

So august is slipping, I wouldn’t feel bad, prob on destiny’s orders

[@Cycstorm]

Word

[@gamerfront6090]

What if he likes it?

[@BlueDirt_ProAggressive]

Are they not run by Destiny?

[@noodlebowl8890]

Unironically these two have some of the best chemistry I've seen between streamers

[@drg8687]

Nazis and Nazi sympathizers always get along great!

[@AKABattousai]

Destiny had some fun chemistry with Gavin McInnes as well.

[@wariogotdeleted]

Steven is funny and is mature enough to realize that alt-righters tend to be pretty funny too

[@wariogotdeleted]

Kinda because they are so absurd… how I feel about McInnes

[@m.czandogg9576]

You are speaking pure facts.

[@drakenal74]

Upon seeing this all I can say is that Destiny never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

[@Jo-bs2uu]

you been in them youtube shorts?

[@ilviandante2040]

@@Jo-bs2uu Catching not pitching

[@lytoxel]

Destiny couldn’t watch The Sopranos, he compromised, he watched The Boys instead. He wanted to debate Vaush, he compromised, he debated Fuentes instead. He wanted to stay on Twitch, he compromised, he’s streaming on KZbin instead. See where I’m going with this?

[@Hopium500]

We can't have him in our social club anymore.

[@lotanowo]

Women often dont

[@DankNuggsMD]

Destiny streaming casual conversations with his secret best friend, gotta love it!

[@cydra_infinity1423]

They’re rivals. They are destined to do this forever.

[@CyrodiilicKhajiit]

nick sounds like Patrick Bateman in the laundry scene here: 22:52

[@trevorserra2207]

I can’t believe Nick actually thinks that independent content creators buying plane tickets and hotel rooms and whatnot to make documentaries generally produces more income than sleep streams, gaming streams and pool streams.

[@John-X]

Are defending fascist Lauren Southern?

[@beophobic9653]

Smell stunk

[@Agnosticuzumaki]

You are severely underestimating grifters and their ability to fleece institutions.

[@Azzury.]

No they set up speaking engagements and did world tours. They went to Australia, New Zealand, Europe etc. People fronted money for this to happen so essentially she and others got paid up front to appear somewhere and read from a script. She also had a substantial online presence for a time. Crazy to dismiss the notion that she had a lucrative thing going.

[@F4RB3YONDM3T4L]

Nick is honestly so lucky to have a friend like destiny to talk to lol

[@jorgeenchilada]

that's very true. But honestly Destiny is extremely wrong in one regard. Lauren Southern 100% made MILLIONS. over the course of her political "career" she most certainly made hundreds of thousands probably per month from patreon alone.

[@thematic3893]

@@jorgeenchilada yup, right wing, white, pretty is 🚛💰💰💰💰💰

[@coreyaruecker]

@@jorgeenchilada she only has a net worth of slightly over 100000

[@jorgeenchilada]

@@coreyaruecker imagine googling net worth and believing that's actually how much people have

[@zen-isaacreymo4016]

She herself has said she's not rich by any stretch but she could be lying.

[@thebronzemanticore]

Nick is a king of engaging with his own thoughts instead of the questions, absolute schizoid.

[@razzle_dazzle]

It's like he's constantly high.

[@Charlieismycat]

But he does do a solo talk show, most of the time, so it's probably just a solidified habit. And it's a meme that the chat on his show gets quickly shot down by him often for having stupid ideas so you add that in and the habit makes even more sense. He's very entertaining.

[@thebronzemanticore]

@@Charlieismycat he's incredibly boring and listening to him address his own thoughts instead of the opponent is annoying.

[@thebronzemanticore]

@@Ratchet299 Jontron pretty much talked to himself and the 4chan memes he memorised in that famous convo, yeah

[@SAFbikes]

@@razzle_dazzle HEY!!! I’m high and us Highs aren’t represented by this angry dwarf!!!

[@AppleBaron]

Well, at least Fuentes is honest about his positions, I can give him that I guess 🙄

[@TheDolphinTuna]

Finally admitting one’s true position after 20 minutes of obfuscation isn’t what mom and pop would call honest, imo

[@gothicpando]

an honest dirtbag is still a dirtbag...

[@ParchedPinemarten]

@@TheDolphinTuna You clearly don't know Fuentes if you think he's hiding his position on womens' role in society. Fuentes has always maintained that a woman's place is in the home.

[@TheDolphinTuna]

@@ParchedPinemarten Everybody who's followed Fuentes long enough knows his positions (when he isn't flip-flopping at the drop of a hat). The problem is that he wastes people's time by dancing around things that are entirely tangential to the matter at hand whenever he has one of these conversations. Like Destiny said here, if Fuentes doesn't believe that women should be in politics in any capacity whatsoever, he should have just opened with that instead of wasting everyone's time.

[@ParchedPinemarten]

@@TheDolphinTuna What has Fuentes flip-flopped on? And Destiny should *know* that Fuentes believes that women shouldn't be in politics, hence why Fuentes said "Who do you think you're talking to?". Destiny wasted time by incessantly asking Fuentes questions when he should already know that Fuentes excludes women from his movement.

[@grantlauzon5237]

During her chat with Destiny. Lauren said she’s making more streaming then she would if she were making documentaries.

[@chipdamage7791]

I mean, from other creators in different fields, documentaries are not nearly as lucrative as streaming/short videos. If you chat with the people that make video game documentaries or the like 'spooky' docs around, they end up putting a lot of effort into a single video and they release like one every 3 months. Sure, the video is good, but they aren't making the money that low effort and consistent creators make. Granted, I don't think those creators have access to outside funding for their projects, so it's probably a little different for a political creator.

[@radioactivedragonite2420]

She's a woman. Can't trust anything she says/s

[@donaldbauer3795]

Documentaries take a long time to make. It's not worth it if you're making them only for KZbin.

[@blueblazer9991]

Gotta respect Nick chomping on entire bags of high caliber ammunition here

[@Drakshl]

He concedes more ground than the French

[@Sprite_525]

50:31 *Destiny* : “which of Lauren’s claims were bad?” *Fuentes* : “ah… lmfao, lol I didn’t watch it lol lolllllll”

[@stopityourehigh2695]

who wants to watch 3 hours of some grifter ranting

[@crazy75able]

@@stopityourehigh2695 then dont talk about it?

[@sammatthew2841]

@@stopityourehigh2695 then why bitch and moan about it. LOL

[@TheDolphinTuna]

​@@stopityourehigh2695 Do you take restaurant recommendations from people who've never eaten there? Or movie recommendations from people who know zero about the movies they recommend? Isn't it embarrassing to loudly declare one's position on a video before one even learns what is said in it?

[@stopityourehigh2695]

@@TheDolphinTuna Many conservatives ate Lauren but she silent about that. Nobody cares about her whining. Women just look for clickbait and attention. I’m surpised thst she doesn’t have Onlyfans yet.

[@musicbyerland]

A drinking game for sober people: take a shot every time Nick actually completes a coherent thought without interrupting himself mid-sentence.

[@alexschneider8494]

Lol some people are bad at getting to their point because they like going off on tangents to explain what they mean constantly. I have the same issue.

[@Darkpumpkin21]

@@alexschneider8494 Yeah but hopefully your job doesn't involve explaining things on the fly in debates

[@musicbyerland]

​@@alexschneider8494 True, I've done the same. But neither of us are pretending to be alpha-debaters on youtube, and when Nick does it, it really sounds like he has no fucking idea what he's talking about.

[@bigfloppaclipchannel5999]

@@musicbyerland hes letting his guard down because its his best friend

[@alexschneider8494]

@@Darkpumpkin21 It doesn't. I'm a fabricator, but I could understand why people would want to clarify everything they say when its so common to be taken out of context these days. In a way I guess you could say it's kind of smart to make sure you're extremely clear about everything you're saying.. although with the things Nick says it doesn't seem like he cares much what people think of his words lol

[@bumbaclot813]

I can't be the only one that loves nick and destiny's back and forth. If you want polar opposites......... this is it, and they can sit and actually talk. Idk man but this is good content.

[@austinlittle1638]

These two are going to be best friends one day, mark my words.

[@AugustoSoehartoPrimoDeRivera]

​@@vietnamsemonky4082no, it happened quite long ago

[@ladyvanda]

So Nick thinks Lauren is to blame for having associated with people she now blasts. All he’s done this year is complain about how disgusting his past closest friends were. RPGTV made a list of the 100+ bridges burned by Nick this year.

[@gothicpando]

people love to project onto others what They themselves do.

[@OdinsDadd]

Hes not smart

[@mrlboroughocho786]

He just hates girls the same way a kindergartener would

[@PsychoKiller639]

Lauren’s associates were left wing snitches

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Nick + Steven are America's power couple 2022

[@DASding148]

Maybe if Steven started wearing a cat outfit

[@cosettapessa6417]

@@πατριχορ tds

[@iwannabethekid34xc]

@@cosettapessa6417 Eric striker is half joo lol

[@shizuoheiw]

Fuentes is just trying to establish a hard anti drama stance now because he's about to get into a big scrap with his best friend Ethan Ralph

[@gothicpando]

it's almost like HE is the problem he likes to complain about?

[@shizuoheiw]

@@gothicpando literally, he had an argument with metokur where he was upset that he felt the left gets away with underhanded tactics and that the right gets mad when he uses those tactics, basically he's the right wing Vaush

[@Sourusophyexe]

@@shizuoheiw right wing vaush might be the best description-label of him, lmao

[@fortyfiveseconds]

@@shizuoheiw why ar you so smoothbrained bro

[@shizuoheiw]

@@fortyfiveseconds if you're going to call me smoothbrain you might want to make sure your spelling is on point, and you called me an idiot, but you didn't say I was wrong

[@kevinh2345]

The editor uses "debate" as loosely as my Midwest mother-in-law uses the word "literally".

[@mothgru]

this is a debate tho tbh. there are some videos that are definitely not debates but are titled as that

[@defer114]

Fuentes is laughably wrong about how lucrative documentary film making is. Jimmy Chin, who is an Oscar winning documentarian, has specifically talked about how "you don't get into documentaries to make money", and he probably has one of the highest grossing documentaries ever in Free Solo which made about 30 million. He made an absolute masterpiece before that called Meru that only grossed about 2.5 million, which is actually quite good for a documentary, but he probably only recieved a very small portion of that with the rest going to Nat Geo when he was actually risking his life in extreme conditions making the film (he almost died in an avalanche). If directors in the top 1% of filmmakers aren't making significant money, then random youtubers making political documentaries are making peanuts.

[@bgboy4861]

Jimmy chin has more money then you and makes documentaries...

[@reichbunny713]

This is why they only debate idiots

[@codyb.3015]

Considering how much cheaper docs are to make, I'd consider that "significant money"

[@defer114]

@@codyb.3015 You're making the mistake of equating the box office sales to the money he actually makes as the director. As my post said, almost all that money goes to Nat Geo who produce the film, buy the cameras and equipment, etc. He probably didn't even make 6 figures from Meru, and again he's in the top 1% of documentary film makers.

[@MMAVoodoo]

He was talking about political docs, which would be funded by big, private donors fueled by political goals. It's much different than art films or something apolitical...

[@NozdormusRage]

"Trust me" from Nick Fuentes is worth its weight in shit.

[@bigdaddyaen]

That's really unfair to the pile of shit. If used as fertilizer, it could be a lot more valuable then an equivalent amount of "Trust me" from Mr Fuentes.

[@rubssi8741]

Nick back at it again with the based misogyny

[@MarioEstevez-re1us]

It is what it is NO ONE wants to listen to women in sports broadcasting I mean pretending otherwise is an exercise in futility. Pretending to care about women’s sports accomplishes nothing as well it’s just a blatant lie. Victoria secret just had to walk back their diverse model hiring because that’s just REALITY and implied misogyny pales in comparison to the fallout from ignoring objective reality. It’s like women should not work and have kids our population is in free fall and that is way more important than their cushy office jobs and yeah it sounds pretty misogynist but idgaf it’s just reality and pretending like “equality” is amazing and will solve world peace is dumb-f***nonsense that will lead to the collapse of the west

[@Saltyyfish]

Pretty sure Nick was rejected by a girl when he asked her to the prom or something and now he’s carrying the biggest grudge. 🤣

[@Sealwithwificonnection]

I don't have problems with women and I have his same views

[@burnbird16]

Nah dude, it's way simpler than that. He's just gay.

[@nikolasnash7288]

These two seem like such good friends

[@luciddreamer616]

Of course Nick hates confessional videos. Imagine if the people that he blackmailed actually had a platform?

[@jellyfishbrained]

Nick is based

[@gothicpando]

nick is cringe

[@jrams4145]

Nick is based and cringe

[@jellyfishbrained]

@@jrams4145 fuck, you took my comment

[@adamaslondraya]

He loves falsely abusing the DMCA system to silence his opponents.

[@maximusdecimusmeridius5438]

Nick is right and Won

[@otterwoodman864]

Nick doesn't need women for anything, he has transcended to Cat Bois

[@libertas_americana]

Nick’s Utopia is a world with only men.

[@iwannabethekid34xc]

@@libertas_americana that's just utopia breh

[@zervzerv6122]

Uhm based?

[@laffetum3050]

@@iwannabethekid34xc what about your anime girls, how would you survive without them?

[@otterwoodman864]

@Jake they are great as sacrificial lambs to reveal enemies positions

[@jakemitchell9853]

Eyyy, for once I agree with Fuentes: we gotta get Destiny off League.

[@sarinat3101]

Nick Fuentes might be the most entertaining government psyop of all time.

[@Octavian2]

You're giving him way too much credit.

[@Sapientiaa]

@@Octavian2 100% lmfaoooo

[@juliaorwell3338]

@@Octavian2 ✊💯

[@bigterry1534]

Yeah, my main issue with the rapist/rapee situation is that the rapist is cunning, clever and proactive and the rapee is passive, stupid and super opportunist. Imagine sympathising with a rape victim. Crazy.

[@sweettea3879]

.....

[@estradiolvalerate8925]

>asking a nazi to have empathy

[@adox8574]

No one is saying you shouldn't be symptathic to a rape victim. You are making that up in your own hero fanasty.

[@Therkio]

Śe sees see we’re see see Deere soon see e we see k we’red de red deeds

[@Drakshl]

This comment is genuinely BiS

[@loadingerror9975]

"are yall just going to become gay?" you have clearly not been paying attention to cat boy den that is nicks growing base. He calls his new friend group the "sussy squad"

[@greatgaddafisghost6388]

Paging russian waifu, your favorite duo just dropped.

[@DarkestKnightshade]

The love and respect women dude?

[@mmin298]

As a general rule, documentaries are not big money makers unless you're Michael Moore. Of course there are always exceptions, but depending on your subject, there usually is simply not the mass audience for documentaries like there is with fiction films. this is what i found

[@WTFBUTWHY]

I agree with Nick on the point of, people will be on a side for years then drop an “exposed” video and think they can wiggle out of it And people fall for it.

[@ToastedFox]

I haven’t watched destiny a whole lot but I think it’s funny how he gets people to be comfortable enough to show their real beliefs.

[@hazzardalsohazzard2624]

He's good at pushing back in a way that doesn't make people defensive. He makes other streamers look like they're trying to start fights. I don't think they're doing it deliberately as often as people say. I see the exact same arguments get as heated as they do on stream, if not more without a chat or audience to entertain.

[@ToastedFox]

@@bh1935 if you can show that they are actually a nazi or how dumb their beliefs are I don’t have a problem with it.

[@ToastedFox]

@@abcxyz53 true. I didn’t know nick too much before this debate.

[@ToastedFox]

@@abcxyz53 granted I still think destiny does this compared to other debaters I’ve seen. Other debaters will usually push back pretty early before getting to the meat of the matter. I’m sure there’s also example of him doing the opposite too but idk. Also haven’t really done a deep dive into his history.

[@SIGSEGV1337]

22:19 this is straight up wrong, Milo was literally loaded and he was born into alot of wealth, he's literally a publicschool boy

[@scarletcrusade77]

I like the destiny talks with Nick. He shows us different sides to Nick

[@Voltroc]

Too bad none of them are good.

[@libertas_americana]

We need a Destiny/Fuentes podcast going. Or at least a weekly talk.

[@GurtGobain]

I love that thumbnail of Lauren looking down on me with distain. Yes fashy mommy, step on me.

[@LoneWulf278]

😂

[@gothicpando]

so weird people think Lauren southern is a fascist.

[@mothgru]

POV: you wake up to Lauren pinning you down. "Pathetic. You're inconsistent with the lore."

[@deepfriedchocobo]

@@gothicpando Fascist: Maybe Garbage ass human being: Definitely

[@gothicpando]

@@deepfriedchocobo and nick Fuentes is also not a garbo human?

[@elizabethbassett6598]

Destiny's fast talk always warms my heart

[@TheBlueLawliet]

x2 that it's like caffeine

[@Seri-dy5dd]

Listening to Nick and Destiny is always entertaining. But I always come away super depressed whenever he talks about women and how they shouldn’t vote or be involved in politics or anything public. It’s really dehumanizing and hard to listen to sometimes. It’s hard not to hate someone who belittles you or wants to take away your rights based on an immutable characteristic. And before someone is like oh lol woman emotional woman offended remember that so many guys have said they felt the exact same way about feminists who talk about violent men and how all men are bad constantly, and how depressing it can be to be in a class or online and hear people go on and on about how white men are inherently evil and shouldn’t be allowed to have opinions on certain things. Any time you are told that your opportunities and potential should be limited based on some group identity that can’t be changed it feels unjust.

[@Seri-dy5dd]

@@SuperSayinSolidSnek No I never said that. There will be Nick fans dropping in to do the platform meme thing though lol.

[@patternrecon5271]

@@Seri-dy5dd A woman is an adult female human. Prior to adulthood, a female human is referred to as a girl (a female child or adolescent). Denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes. Women inherit a pair of X chromosomes from their parents, and are capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause. More generally, sex differentiation of the female fetus is governed by the lack of a present, or functioning, SRY-gene on either one of the respective sex chromosomes. Female anatomy is distinguished from male anatomy by the female reproductive system, which includes the ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, vagina, and vulva. The adult female pelvis is wider, the hips broader, and the breasts larger than that of adult males. Women have significantly less facial and other body hair, have a higher body fat composition, and are on average shorter and less muscular than men. A man is an adult male human. Prior to adulthood, a male human is referred to as a boy (a male child or adolescent). Like most other male mammals, a man's genome inherits an X chromosome from the mother and a Y chromosome from the father. Sex differentiation of the male fetus is governed by the SRY gene on the Y chromosome. During puberty, hormones which stimulate androgen production result in the development of secondary sexual characteristics, thus exhibiting greater differences between the sexes. These include greater muscle mass, the growth of facial hair and a lower body fat composition.

[@myquestformeaning8251]

Most societies have skewed towards patriarchy. The greek democracy was only a democracy for men. Nietzsche, Aristotle and many thinkers and philosopher didn't believe women should vote or be in politics. It's only depressing because you have been led to believe you are equal as men. Women back in the days wouldn't mind playing their role in society, like everyone else played their role. Muslim women in Islamic countries don't mind it today. They know they are women, they know what are expected of them and what's forbidden. You see, it's all about perspective. These women don't yearn for the freedom western women have. When they come to western countries they even want to wear the hijab. Their religiosity is more important for them than freedom, like being able to vote, or to be politicians. And yea, it is unjust. But most things in life are unjust, you are not just limited by your identity but by your characteristics, most of which you can do nothing about. But the importance of ruling is greater than the importance of treating everyone in society equal. At least that was historically the case, maybe in today's society we have become so prosperous that we can afford to be more idealistic than pragmatic though. But everything has consequences. I don't believe in democracy either, I mostly agree with Nick.

[@jellyjamese3134]

@@myquestformeaning8251 Cringe

[@Seri-dy5dd]

@F.W. yeah he believes you have to own property or something right?

[@ehs7208]

I have to give it to Nick, he is the embodiment of the Chad "yes". He owns shit and its shocking but also refreshing. He won't lie to you that he thinks women are dumb and he won't even bother listening to them or try to rationalise why he can comment on something he hasn't watched

[@freem8son86]

Best thumbnail in ages

[@barwar7707]

Destiny been spoiling us w content

[@rodiculous9464]

The problem with Fuentes argument is that Lauren would throw away all of her right wing clout for one video that didn't even do that well. Either he is really stupid, or thinks she is (well it's both let's be real)

[@nilktots6380]

Fuentes just completely forgetting all those years where the online right was touted as being the non sex pest group vs the left. he doesnt get that his experience isnt the end all be all of what other people have seen. even if you grant him the idea hes objectively right about the things he believes not everyone will see the same things or come to the same conclusions

[@BobardeZanzibar]

Oh yeah, there was the "male feminist" meme.

[@yungbeef8444]

@@BobardeZanzibar most people who id as male feminists are pretty desperate. These things don't just change because right wingers turned out to be weirdos too

[@CWA92]

Nick Fuentes sounds like the turtle in Sly Cooper

[@antmane7]

LMFAO

[@soundlogic8108]

I think Fuentes is crazy. Lauren Southern is a beast. She works hard and told her side of the truth. I don’t understand why Nick is being such an asshole towards Lauren. She is amazing.

[@mariomario1462]

Truth doesn't have sides.

[@cmike123]

Because he dislikes women. Especially in politics. But he is right, in that Lauren was an asshole for waiting until the money died down to out the bad faith. I dont think she is trying to get back into internet politics, but this would be a good stepping stone onto some political talk show or some guest appearances.

[@lou9511]

@king fuqurmahmen she had a kid?

[@Isaiah99002]

Hope she sees this bro

[@cmike123]

@king fuqurmahmen To a degree, Dave Rubin did the same thing. It is very formulaic.

[@laizerwoolf]

"Making money on youtube is about knowing the formula and churning out content to do it, it's not just about hard work." Destiny gives good advice for people who wants to start a career in content creation.

[@LWoodGaming]

do you really want to take advice from dude that have been on youtube for years and still haven't reach 500k subs?

[@laizerwoolf]

@@LWoodGaming Because the advice is still valid even though his channel doesn't perform as well as other new high rising youtube. JiDion gives similar advice about finding the formula in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYC2eYeBaa6Mhrs at 4:50, Ludwig in kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6GVpaWXpJuXj9k also proves that he can make a moderately successful video from scratch because of his deep understanding of viewers and streaming platform.

[@JM-mh1pp]

@@LWoodGaming it is not about reaching big numbers. It is about how dedicated your followers are. It is very easy to click subscribe and forget about the channel. But to keep steady views for years, having big patreon following month after month. That is loyality. And a 1000 dedicated followers are better than 100 000 casual watchers.

[@alyx669]

@@LWoodGaming Yes

[@westingtyler1]

2:00 that's always baffled me that whole "you made a mistake, so therefore it's invalid to point out someone else is bad." no, who cares who or why is saying these claims. what matters is, CAN YOU BACK THEM UP? this idea that people should be beyond reproach because of the character of the person accusing them, IS a genetic fallacy. "you're wrong because you're a bad person." no, judge claims on their MERITS, not based on the character of who brings them forth. I'm glad Lauren is growing and making amends. good for her.

[@lameduck3105]

I watch these videos without sound so I can't comment on what was being said. But the gameplay was riveting.

[@curtisbarwick9485]

Nick makes me cringe so hard. Has the worst case of confirmation bias I have ever seen. Can't even comprehend that he may be wrong in any circumstance. The fact he struggles to understand the basic idea that people can change for no other reason beside some slimy personal gain makes me laugh. Stop listening to kids.

[@yungbeef8444]

He does this consciously, it's part of his strategy to never back down on anything ever and co opt any insults thrown at him

[@yungbeef8444]

@@tetrapharmakos8868 catboys work in weird ways. hes hanging out with Kanye now so we've all been owned anyway

[@sierrapepin]

Ahhh, first fight frens?? I love these two together!

[@FeaturedFilms]

So Nick thinks Hunter isnt a grifter because he changed his opinions and took a financial hit but Lauren is a grifter because she changed her opinion and took a financial hit? One of many brain dead thoughts but I don't expect much from Nick.

[@xukeepax1286]

the level of selfawareness nick has is actually very respectable

[@Old_School_293]

Does it always take Nick Fuentes 15 minutes to make a minor point? Jesus, listening to that child rant temporarily robbed me of 15 IQ points.

[@Old_School_293]

But I like how while Nick was ranting, Destiny went off, had sex with Mel, took a shit, and fixed lunch and came back.

[@randomyoutubecommenterr]

It's simple. He rants so long until people forget what the original point was and they forget Fuentes is full of sh*t

[@Zebraman220]

This was truly the peak of content

[@travishimebaugh8381]

Maybe if I go back in time and tell young Nick Fuentes' parents to pay more attention to him I can prevent this from happening.

[@SuperCuttyBlackSow]

Tell his mom to swallow him instead lol

[@saamimuhaimin6857]

His mom is racist too

[@rodiculous9464]

Better yet just take a coat hanger with you

[@Emelllll64]

@@saamimuhaimin6857 really how do u know?

[@saamimuhaimin6857]

@@Emelllll64 Skip to 4:05 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWnSf3-OgsyErbM

[@FringeSpectre]

Nick harping on about Lauren knowing of the corrupt shit behind the scenes making her complicit, meanwhile he's accusing a former AF member of pedophilia and saying he knew but kept quiet lol.

[@niadean9518]

Who's the former AF member?

[@FringeSpectre]

@@niadean9518 jaiden

[@jamesclement8985]

Why is Destiny giving Fuentes advice on how to build a more effective political movement? That’s what most of their conversation during this video was.

[@carterreloads4648]

Because destiny is helping his best fren nick. What's so confusing??

[@henryburton6529]

This is what I’ve been waiting for

[@mikethaison432]

This Nick Fuentes guy sounds pretty cool I'm going to check him out. Thanks Destiny.

[@sasabasa361]

Listening to this makes me love and appreciate women (in politics) so much more its insane

[@theprofesionalist7927]

It's worth it to just to see this guy turn into a malding salty hypocrite. Lauren was right about the right; half of these people will claim that they're ironically more tolerant than the left, which is sometimes true, but the minute you've got anything bad to say about them they'll be just as quick to call you a token for the other side and a grifter as the lefties do.

[@JM-mh1pp]

Wait...just in politics? Suspicious friend...very suspicious

[@erikshure360]

So you didn't appreciate women at 100% before?

[@sasabasa361]

@@erikshure360 I did now its 169%

[@AugustoSoehartoPrimoDeRivera]

​@@erikshure360if you spend too much time on that left-wing reddit threads, those reeee mUh pAtRiaRcHy evErYwHerE, mayhaps

[@JjackVideo]

"Oh Nick you're only 23" Also *Marries a 19-20 y/o*

[@TheDonUrbas]

can I join in on the gosip golden girls?

[@localsussybaka277]

reading destiny's chat is confirmation that we are doomed

[@Aspirintax]

Fuentes is the best person who I’ve ever heard at saying so much utterly deluded religion-fueled nonsense.

[@shelleycline3542]

All while being super homosexual.

[@andylofi4448]

Yea he’s great.

[@barwar7707]

Go visit grandpa at the zoo

[@damnedifido1062]

@@πατριχορ So him talking about his religious beliefs and how America is a Catholic nation is all an act?

[@Aspirintax]

@@πατριχορ he literally talks about being Catholic in this stream. Lol

[@adamtwarowski1053]

Watched this long ago on the clip channels, still listening thru so Steve and August get that ad revenue

[@owenhasnofrends]

Chad Nick Fuentes vs virgin lauren southern

[@1999_reborn]

I mean they don't call him steven the swastika bonnel for nothing

[@kg356]

Wacky Steve

[@TomDoesTech]

I both like and hate Nick at the same time, what a ride

[@mike-hunt3527]

I usually click on a Destiny video just to watch the intros, read the comments for a bit then go watch something else

[@OmegaThirty]

I hate Fuentes, but I also love him because he entertains me.

[@robjob34]

14:45 "It sort of matters less that we have people voting for us on our side than it is that we have the people they're voting for on our side" This is why it's important to interview people like this. It's important to know that there are people in power who are more aligned with him than they let on

[@kicsiqki]

I can never take a fuentes "debate" seriously. He is either bad faith or just performative. Its valueless.

[@ParchedPinemarten]

I swear people just call everything and everyone bad faith nowadays. How is Fuentes bad faith? He's totally upfront about everything he believes in.

[@bigfloppa9594]

@@ParchedPinemarten you're joking right? He obscures his actual beliefs constantly

[@ParchedPinemarten]

@@bigfloppa9594 Such as?

[@randomyoutubecommenterr]

​@@ParchedPinemarten I mean he came on to rant about Laurens manifesto video and say it's all BS while stating multiple times he never even watched it. He's painting a picture of Laurens claims, views and arguments in her video as nonsense when he literally doesn't even know what they are.

[@TheKomentor]

@@ParchedPinemarten The way he dismisses LS even before he has seen her video makes him kind of bad faith.

[@kinghassy334]

"Why wouldn't you want women nazis" - Destiny

[@demodiums7216]

Kind of insane that Destiny even takes Nick as seriously as he does

[@randomyoutubecommenterr]

@@0doublezero0 I wouldn't even call it a problem.... but the reality is Nick caters to a bunch of white nationalist incels. They don't care what he says, they treat it as gospel. Anyone else in the world that hears his views? They see him as clown.

[@666MaRius9991]

@@0doublezero0 Unironical 4D chess.

[@AugustoSoehartoPrimoDeRivera]

because what all your kinds' are merely capable of is construing cultural marxist reddit arguments. Reeee muh nAzi. Lefties have lists of things to be on-time being offended by

[@hater9117]

"actually I think her lack of revealing clothing is an enhancer" goes on a long analogy about dr melfi this is a gay man, this man has only has a vague idea about opposite sex attraction is because he is gay

[@sarahg2653]

My fiance loves Dr. Melfi. There is something about the "businesswoman" vibe that some guys dig.

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

So, men during the periods of high Puritanism where both them and women were completely clothed and sophisticated were…homosexual? There’s a level of reaching there, and sure you can claim Fuentes may be one, but Puritanism is the best course to diminish sexual assault and rape. It also teaches men and women to act like gentlemen/women again.

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

I get you people hate him, but you’re so sexually charged, that any person who’s different from your own selfish beliefs, must be secretly this specific degenerate thing….you people need to grow up.

[@Frosty-oj6hw]

I don't care who you like, Destiny or Nick, or both, or neither. Their content together is genuinely top notch. They can set aside their political differences and have a pretty good faith conversation, that's thoughtful, they can have meaningful disagreements, remain polite and even jovial. If we could make most of political discourse like this then we'd be so much better off as a society.

[@peppyhydra4544]

It's because they respect each other and know that they're even on wit and intelligence. Neither can roast or humiliate the other and so they just butt heads playfully over and over again and find common ground by doing so.

[@Frosty-oj6hw]

@@peppyhydra4544 Agree. A large part is because of the even level of sophistication, but some of it is also their attitude.

[@ericstein8019]

@@peppyhydra4544 destiny talks to nick because he finds them “interesting” has nothing to do with intelligence or integrity lmao

[@pommiebears]

I really appreciate that you speak with people like Fuentes. Not because I like or agree with him, it’s to the contrary. I like to hear other points of view, even utterly insane ones lol.

[@synlion]

Fuentes is basically the incel king. He’ll go on huge rants about Lauren, but it just seems like he’s attracted to her and is upset by that fact.

[@nikolasnash7288]

ur projecting

[@scottd52843]

The sad truth is that people tend to gravitate towards narcisistic people because they aren't boring and they take risks. Milo, Tommy Robinson, Faith Goldie, Trump, Nick Fuentes etc. They put themselves out there and always seem to be surrounded by drama. The vast majority of conservatives are not like this but there's always this guilt by association BS that plays out. Let's be honest, Lauren was associated with these types of groups because she's a good looking girl with the right ideology and she's young and fairly intelligent. She was baited by these groups.

[@demodiums7216]

yup

[@ProgressiveConservative]

Lauren wasn’t associated with these groups, she saw an opportunity and jumped on the bandwagon and associated herself with it. The dissident right was an attention machine and until big tech started making it impossible being a far right egirl was an extremely profitable grift.

[@nickboots2]

@@ProgressiveConservative did she jump on a bandwagon? Or did she go where she felt like she belonged, where the demographic embraced her? Man some of yall 'holier-than-thou' clowns are something else.... if women didn't take a while to realize their mistakes, ur mom would've def aborted you.

[@kg356]

Brittany Venti rode this wave as well now her channel is basically dead

[@MarroniMusic]

Fuentes is effin' hilarious

[@bluepilledalpha]

I agree. But sometimes I feel bad for laughing at him.. it's kike laughing at a mentally challenged person if they were a Christian nationalist, incel, and doesn't think women should vote..

[@MarroniMusic]

@@bluepilledalpha Sassy comment 😆 4/10 bait.

[@benrob9411]

@@bluepilledalpha They shouldn't vote. No one should actually.

[@lAljax]

The discussing about the ammount of mone that Lauren makes at 20:00 now that we found out that she takes russian money is hilarious.

[@turifast5065]

I was thinking the same thing, now im curious if nick knew anything about the russian money, though I find it unlikely. I guess it depends on how long shes been getting paid by putin

[@kachow5830]

And that’s just what they were caught doing. They could’ve easily done it “legally” and it does happen all the time.

[@steveng6704]

Going through the comments, I have no clue how people cam be more charitable to Fuentes than to Lycan or Pisco. Fuentes is more bad faith than Lycan, and derails the conversation more than Pisco does.

[@WanderTheNomad]

I'm guessing that the people who are more charitable to Fuentes(I haven't seen very many but I'll take your word for it) are just like that because they're watching Destiny for entertainment and not for the arguments themselves. And Fuentes is more entertaining than Pisco or Lycan. That's all just a guess thp

[@lou9511]

@@WanderTheNomad honestly a pretty sound guess

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

That depends. If one speaks your values, then you’ll obviously support them. Your comment is as simpleminded and unnecessary as most of the comments here who idolize Destiny as much as those who idolize Fuentes. The irony….

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

I find both lycan and pisco to be pretentious prudes. Either way, why would I care for the life of degenerates who savory their degeneracy? That’s essentially what those two people embody…

[@tylerp7522]

Back when Destiny and Tez had a good thing going...

[@CG-zk1cc]

The comment calling Nick out 😂 😂 "He can't breed a femboy"

[@thematic3893]

Destiny is like this dudes therapist.

[@gothicpando]

love how nick uses the feminist framing to try and smear a right wing woman. it's like he uses whatever is at hand to smear others even if it's against his supposed beliefs and ideology...

[@gothicpando]

@@πατριχορ you mean someone without morals or scruples ala vaush? Not someone you would want to imitate...

[@Isaiah99002]

It's not "feminist framing." It's called being consistent. He believes that women should not be in the workforce or politics. Lauren Southern is no exception

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

Funny that you call Lauren “right wing”, because she’s nothing of the sort.

[@malbasedvalentine3210]

@@gothicpando Destiny is an extension of vaush. He created vaush, yet so many of you idolize him like the sheeple you are…. So many comments in here are as low brain and basic as the comments you’d find any e-celebs comment section…

[@yungbeef8444]

@@gothicpando the point of pragmatism is that you're basically forced to do something, vaush is an idiot who doesn't understand the rules he's supposed to follow to make a pragmatic decision

[@ConsciousRobot]

I almost don't believe Nick believes some of the shit he says

[@zarganon9594]

He holds the positions he does because he thinks they “sound based”.

[@qweewq5734]

@@zarganon9594 Based

[@zarganon9594]

@@qweewq5734 Based on getting 0 b*tches maybe

[@KageOji77]

Destiny did a great job responding to Fuentes' accusations and claims about Southern. He gives Nick a great deal of credit for the way he formulates his logic. However, Nick is completely out of pocket commenting on something he hasn't watched. His hubris is gross and oozing. But what do you expect of young people?

[@stopityourehigh2695]

He is not wrong though. Nobody needs to watch it to know that she’s trying to be yhe victim when she’s complicit.

[@KageOji77]

@@stopityourehigh2695 You're sounding like you haven't watched it either. She states she's complicit and is critical of herself for her naiveté, her selective leniency, etc. What's more, Destiny is correct that by Nick's logic whistle-blowers should shame themselves out of existence...which, of course, is foolishness you'd only expect young purists to say.

[@KageOji77]

Also, she claimed to be a victim. She never claimed to deserve anything, on the contrary the states the reason she spoke up about much of the foolishness is to clear the names of people who had been thrown under the bus. This is another factor that Fuentes completely ignores likely because he doesn't know about it. Should she have stayed sealed up when she could vindicate people who had been wrongfully accused? Additionally, telling the whole truth of a situation when the majority of the public is being deceived is one of the more admirable things one can do. Keeping our representatives and darlings honest should be everyone's concern but apparently not if they're women. O_o

[@stopityourehigh2695]

@@KageOji77 She’s a woman and guys wanted to sleep with her. Omg you don’t say? She’s an attention seeker like all leftists.

[@stopityourehigh2695]

@@KageOji77 Nobody’s got time but right wing haters to sit through 3 hours of some woman blaming everyone. Women shouldn’t be representing our movement int he first place. We want the patriarchy.

[@jjr8108]

Honestly, I feel like everyone below the age of 25 doesn’t know much of anything. Obviously there are few exceptions but generally, they don’t know wtf they’re talking about.

[@jimmij]

The being friends with Fuentes arc is so cringe mygod

[@Aspirintax]

You are a real dummy if you think Destiny actually considers Nick his friend.

[@ThatLittIeGuy]

We're so back

[@CodyGall]

Lauren is awesome. The “right” and the “left” are a joke.

[@billyconnelly3568]

Yeah sure, whatever you say. Why do you put left and right in scare quotes?

[@CodyGall]

@@billyconnelly3568 because the “right” and the “left” are fake things, childish nonsense.

[@hannahdaunton532]

Hispanic autistic brothers. They had such good chemistry back then. :(

[@j.a.motteux2785]

My gaydar is off the scale. I met tradcaths exactly like this boy at university and all of them turned out gay.

[@hazzardalsohazzard2624]

I'm like 90% sure he has sex with Milo after watching them talk.

[@ihsahnakerfeldt9280]

Too bad Nick is cute as hell.

[@WanderTheNomad]

I've only heard Nick Fuentes' name. I've never heard his voice, seen his face, or heard anything else about him other than the fact he's right leaning. I did not know he was just 23

[@Jalmerk]

It explains a lot. It’s not a coincidence that many of the loudest radicals on the internet are barely adults.