"DESTINY IS MANSPLAINING" - Debate Gets Personal, Moderator Steps In...

[@destiny]

Destiny gets accused of mansplaining and Heem tries his best to steelman the left + keep things civil in the debate Destiny debates previous topic: Travis Scott concert death tragedy ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4fEZ42LbrebpdU Check out Heem Heem ►www.twitch.tv/heem ►twitter.com/TheOnlyHeem

[@joshuamichael2463]

@No One anytime there was a mild criticism or a slight jab sent her way he would come flying in to protect her honor, what’s up with that? Does he simp for all women like that or just this one?

[@LaptopmenaceMTK]

i love watching dumb people get dunked on

[@bentoomet8805]

@@joshuamichael2463 I think it was because it was her first panel, so he felt like he had to protect her. Keem is usually pretty cool that was unlike him.

[@felixchien1664]

@@joshuamichael2463 he had empathy for a noob. Perhaps he's also looking for a new gf

[@jeremyduke4938]

NO WE DONT, SHES JUST A DU.... (not today satan)

[@SuboptimalPrime]

What a strong, independent woman. She even lives independently of her brain.

[@jeremyashcraft2053]

$20 says her IQ is somewhere between 80-85

[@taylor_o]

@@jeremyashcraft2053 I take the bet!

[@leepinlepin]

$20k that it's lower than 79.99995

[@moksha8473]

@@jeremyashcraft2053 racist

[@taylor_o]

@@leepinlepin i take that one too!

[@bobkripz8234]

more like destiny is womensplaining because destiny is a girls name

[@ButtshotJenkins]

Pronouns would be uh/mazin

[@TheHoodedWonder]

Lol the only chicks named destiny were born to be strippers

[@tressietes04]

@@TheHoodedWonder Lol I had a fling with a stripper named Destiny in my mid 20’s. Her stage name was Kitty. Wtf, do you know her?

[@marmite_popsicle]

Ayoo!

[@ChickenStripBitch]

Betaaa!

[@combatwombat2134]

As a Brit, goddamn I got second hand embarrassment on behalf of our country for that guy on the panel. Sorry about that. 😂

[@whileistaysecluded]

its ok man, we all have some rotten apples lol

[@useablelobster]

He used to chat with Count Dankula, and by chat I mean constantly accuse him of being a white supremacist. The guy has one tactic, and hes still shit at it.

[@gilliland101]

Yeah but it seems like they have more bad apples then not. They all push their narrative when they’ve never had to struggle, and think they are oh so perfect. “Oui bruv stab me man then prey fo him I’m not eh killa”

[@BladedBear]

No need to apologize, lol. He doesn't represent you. And furthermore, I'm just glad he doesn't live in the US, we have enough 'progressive' twits over here as it is, some even dumber than the woman on the panel.

[@WhiteJeezus]

The important thing is that you apologized

[@AbaNPreach]

Claiming that Destiny is only Mansplaining is erasing her Blackness. He is also Whitesplaining. Intersectionality. Edit: Nvm... just realized shes from the Westbank, lmaooo

[@someone-mm5jz]

Ayyyy y'all pfp bruh 🤣

[@PajamaJazama]

rare

[@DavinFIGJAM.]

Do you watch many of destiny's videos? Keep up the great work! :)

[@raketensven3127]

Netball guys dunking on girls lmao.

[@LaptopmenaceMTK]

add an extra chromosome in that equation, she had zero intelligent things to say

[@chiricosta1]

Progressivebrat only speaks in ways where she’s looking for a “YASSS QUEEN” moment but fails miserably every time, I adore that destiny doesn’t let it slide

[@Casper-Ghost]

Yeah she was throwing out so much bullshit he couldn't even call her on the "OK" sign or the Proud Boys, neither of which are actually racist like she is trying to assert.

[@matthewmarkus2495]

I didn't think someone could be this idiotic. Does progressive and intellectual mean something different in the USA.

[@Ciraaxx]

She is actually below zero IQ. Everytime she opens her mouth I cringe myself to semi-death.

[@NikaTheBoo]

All of her "arguments" (and I'm using that word very loosely) were motivated by emotion rather than fact. Makes me so mad that this is the only woman representation on this panel, makes us all look stupid af.

[@φαρμακεία-πρωταρχικός]

@@NikaTheBoo fallacy from emotion & ignorance unfortunately🥸

[@0xkitten]

its insane that we cannot acknowledge a person's life's work can be a person's life. That taking that away can genuinely kill them and their family. How much privilege does one need to have to not see that.

[@SubtitledArabicSongs]

Because it is an incredible dumb argument. And as clearly pointed out to you by the panelists property is repalcable, lives aren't. And destiny and Co were being highly disingenuous when the argument that the far right causes the most violence by claiming deaths and injuries are less important that property damage.

[@Vanessa-xx3yz]

You're right, people sometimes self-delete when their lives are destroyed to that capacity. Goodbye kid's college funds, good bye house, good by financial cushion. I can't imagine how hard it is to run a self/family owned business and the ones who have been around for years become a symbol of their community.

[@kmgyening]

Right, it's so fucking stupid. My car recently had a maintenance issue and I lost $2400 due to a scam, in the same week, right when I was running low on funds and still applying for jobs. And I still had a bunch of bills to pay on top of that. I managed to get the car fixed, but my every day life would have been substantially affected if I didn't (especially my work life). And if I lost anymore than $2400, I might have been out on the street because I couldn't pay my rent. With everything that was going on, I feel like I would have had a meltdown if my situation got worse. It's really annoying when these idiots talk like that.

[@SubtitledArabicSongs]

how terrible for you, I am sure you would have preferred to have been killed, right? since this is what the comparison is, killing somebody or destroying replaceable things like cars@@kmgyening clowns

[@jessemartin2685]

I think it's either an issue with intelligence, that they can't perceive metaphors or abstract concepts of comparison. Or, it's willful ignorance because acknowledgement erodes the point they're trying to project. So they choose Ignorance in order to attempt to be right. (They want to be right more than they want to be correct)

[@KumaNicol]

That girl is a master of making me hate her immediately. Bravo, playing victim on the first sign of resistance? You love to see it,

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

I bet you a dollar she's a Secret Nazi

[@xJ0LLYR0GERx]

when Rob gave his version of what she said as " I'm a progressive so I don't care about facts and fuck you your a man"

[@RP-mp4ow]

She picked an accurate name

[@01What10]

Every "woke" individual has more in common with a nazi than most of the people they constantly demonize as nazis.

[@TheIncognitusMe]

@@01What10 "Woke" doesn't mean anything.

[@Als_Attic989]

Bless her heart… she actually thought she did something here.

[@erikrumann1798]

yeah you sh///////

[@ChuckFinelyForever]

She did plenty, including convincing me that she doesn’t have enough brain cells to rub together.

[@kiritimatiswan1986]

She think she smar

[@icareg]

I think she did at 1st, but was pouting in sulking agitation at the end as she just sat on her phone.

[@scootza1]

​@@zeex9338 "Look at Woodhouse! He thinks he's people!"

[@JesusChristsDick]

She's not even following the conversation. She's just listening for key words and reacting with no regard for context.

[@RiseUpToYourAbility]

Yeh she no one needed to debate her because she did a good job of making herself look foolish

[@shadesteel9247]

@@RiseUpToYourAbility the problem though, is that she kept interrupting everyone and asking leading questions, while Heem kept defending her regardless. She made this debate barely even count as a debate.

[@BUFF4LOSOLDIER]

"he's a murderer because he drove there and put himself in that situation" Wonder how he feels about victims of date rape cases

[@loganjackson675]

this moderator getting preachy about “name calling” and then allowing the chick and British dude to call everyone else a fascist is so cringy 😂

[@peterpeterson3385]

Yes, because the far-left is often so fragile. They require extra protection, as otherwise they will leave and there won't be any comedy left.

[@TheseBitchesWantNikes]

Left is cringe. Big news.

[@fbi10]

I would use the word “hypocritical” instead of cringy lol but yes you right

[@ncamachoguy]

"Brain poison"

[@TruthSpeaker723]

It's not "name calling" if it's true.

[@_dragonstorm_2635]

Damn, the Rittenhouse trial really is the greatest NPC test in the world.

[@jaybayer3670]

It really is. Idk how you look at the facts and find any other conclusions unless you're literally just a left npc that doesn't actually use your brain. Idk man

[@tripledigit4835]

It’s kinda like how Jan 6 and the Trump’s “Big Lie” about the Election is a Right Wing NPC Test “Who won the 2020 election?” “Uh … erm … it was …” - NPC Detected

[@Lol-vt2ln]

@@tripledigit4835 I’m right wing and I agree

[@m1gg136]

Holy shit this comment made me lmfao XD

[@MxRxU]

S T A T E L I N E S

[@dudeorduuude5211]

That lady needs practice debating. She took offense to everything and leaped to insulting. She needs to practice not being triggered so much and stop jumping to "don't mansplain" when you are expected to justify your own beliefs in a debate.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

She also did the evil witch laughing which for some reason is a tactic women use in debates. Maybe it's the equivalent of a man getting aggressive to intimidate the person

[@kmgyening]

She tapped into that 2015 feminist energy

[@TheClassicDoomGuy]

Should watch some of her other shit dude, she takes offense to EVERYTHING, you cannot talk to that bitch and not offend her at some point.

[@kwk111]

What's really funny to me is that she only apologized about accusing him of mansplaining because Destiny identifies as nonbinary. As if accusing a man of mansplaining is not offensive at all. And just like you said, the whole point of debates is justifying your stance. If you think the opponent is wrong in their beliefs, you have to assume that they just don't understand something. A good debater will explain their point in a simple way that anyone can understand, but the side effect of that is emotional people can feel like they're being talked down to

[@jtzoltan]

It's hilarious that they don't understand that Rittenhouse didn't shoot to "defend property", he shot to defend his life, which he took very reasonable measures to avoid having to and excercised good judgement in doing so (like holding back on shooting the 3rd attacker with the pistol when he started to step back and lowered his gun, but shooting him only as he raised it again). People showed up to stand in/outside their businesses and those lf their neighbors as witnesses and deterrents to mob violence... they were armed to defend themselves and each other should anyone try to attack them. That's after 2 nights of riots had already done $50 million in property damage (I think people were attacked too, but could be misremembering) amd where the cops were clear they would not intervene and there were no national guards called in (the Governor was a disgrace). I'm not sorry to say, but Rosenbaum forfeited his life, and I don't feel sorry for a guy like him. I do feel sorry for the innocent kid he once was, but whatever he did and happened to him between then and this night, he was derranged.

[@AR-br3ce]

Destiny: "I wish I could videogame people who leave their carts out in the parking lot." Theprogressivebrat: "This is real life, we're not talking about a videogame" Classic

[@tjwood4810]

This fucking SENT me

[@Harsh_Noise]

And the look on Destiny’s face, my fucking sides xD

[@bean-pod]

"I don't hang ouuuuuuut with people like thaaaaaaaaaat" - P.Brat 2021

[@viggowallenius885]

And then 1:13:21 She is in fact quite an intellectual.

[@vicariouschism86]

Talk about being 2 brain cells away from being brain dead.

[@user-wu1us1yh3n]

My fav Latinx Non Binary streamer finally calling out the BIGOTS who misgender them.

[@monkeydude2424]

His pronouns are he/him 🤨

[@setheroth2421]

@@Threelegs94 clearly a joke

[@zak2659]

@@Threelegs94 bruh

[@johnleoks7642]

@@monkeydude2424 Pronouns don't equal gender. Plus, plenty of NB folks go by she/her and he/him. It just means they have a stronger connection to that side of their gender.

[@monkeydude2424]

@@johnleoks7642 “BIGOTS who misgender THEM” they were using they/them pronouns when his pronouns are he/him.

[@mreinecker]

Whoever this girl is, big oof. Her defaulting to these “you’re a man” comments are so cringe. Just build a legitimate argument and defend it.

[@rosssivertson6339]

It's the reason why I have a lack of faith in the education system these days.I have seen many many college aged kids speaking the same way using the same talking points. They learn it in college.

[@aydenr5467]

@@rosssivertson6339 perhaps from the social structures around young people, but not specifically in subjects of a degree.

[@HP-sq2fp]

Unfortunately that works in a lot of the spaces these people insulate themselves in. So in their mind it’s a slam dunk and they don’t realize how fundamentally stupid it makes them seem

[@leepinlepin]

It was so 2014

[@thatindiandude4602]

The sort of woman of colour feminists who write screeds against White males but exclusively date and find attractive white dude and gals.

[@dillonday6123]

The thing that hurts my brain the most is “if he wasn’t open carrying he wouldn’t have been attacked” what type of stupid do you have to be to attack someone open carrying?

[@SkawarsXE]

Right?!? As if seeing someone with a rifle causes you to lunge at them. It does the exact opposite because you don't want to be SHOT TO DEATH

[@jasper_of_puppets]

These are the same dumbasses who bend over backwards to never 'victim-blame' anybody on their side. Thankfully, Destiny points out their rampant hypocrisy.

[@american1207]

It depends on the type of people you run into. In most cases, people aren't gonna wanna mess with you if they see you carrying, but in a select few cases open carrying can paint a target on your back. It paints you as a person of power and say if I want to do something illegal or take control of an area or situation the biggest threat to my objective would be a person of power. So it could increase your chances of getting ambushed. It's like how in war you'll always target those carrying weapons because those are the only ones who can stop you.

[@mrodo5175]

The little freakout over "honey" is blackpilling me

[@robhuanout5443]

heem said at the beginning he had invited her on and was defending her the whole stream. He was simping so much it was hard to not notice

[@JohahnDiechter]

@@robhuanout5443 I think he may have just felt sorry for her. She was definitely not ready for this.

[@LeonBelmont1000]

@@JohahnDiechter She should stick to her echo chamber and safe space. Critical thinking wasnt in the cards for her.

[@bokajon]

It was a beautiful example of how people don't care when women say certain things to men but they care when men say these things to women.

[@fehwerofw]

I understand wanting to include a woman and all to make it more inclusive but it is just as important to have someone with at least a surface level understanding of the facts and not just Twitter hot- takes. She constantly spoke over everyone, brought the conversation to a screeching halt on at least three separate occasions then crowbarred in the minority/woman card at every opportunity. It's just like when your parents let you go hang out with your friends but you need to bring your annoying kid brother with.

[@josephwales5967]

"She gets slack for being her first time" They call that slack....he didnt moderate her at all. In fact he argued for her points.

[@whenthedustfallsaway]

simping

[@jasontodd4020]

FACTS

[@Wallywood187]

So true. She had no business being on that panel at all. Ignored facts and glorified feelings

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

I dOnT hAVe tO ExPLaIn MySElF

[@toxicwaltz0863]

I noticed that too.... they fuckin

[@juliantheedoctor]

Damn, this Rittenhouse arc is gold.

[@gommoolabajobir8687]

@@6FootVampire No you are gold 🥇

[@Localpref416]

@@6FootVampire 🥇

[@RowanBorat]

it keeps getting better and better

[@jacobspeedrunchannel1893]

@@gommoolabajobir8687 KING

[@flemaster12]

This anime is getting wild

[@SmilingDesperado]

Heem was simping so hard. It's incredibly difficult to be civil with someone when you're trying to have a debate and they aren't saying anything. She started off the debate by telling people she didn't have to explain her position. If Heem doesn't want name calling and testy exchanges then having on people like Destiny, Rob, and a snowflake like Progressive Brat on the same panel makes that highly unlikely.

[@bean-pod]

54:29 Brat: "That's just youuuuuuuuu (silence) tee hee' Rob: "You're not doing as well as you think you are" 💀💀💀

[@johnd1047]

Rob really dropped the ball on the J6 debate, but man he’s still my favorite cons debater in the destiny orbit.

[@roadgnome9166]

Destiny inventing "Themsplaining" was priceless.

[@strangelitgirl]

❤️👍

[@winterphilosophy3900]

The term has a point though : D

[@SuperKpill]

She finally apologized at the end.

[@rynethorup5690]

ya haha that was great.

[@orangetaho4u207]

Just because I use He/Him doesn't mean I use "man" for my 'splaining. 😆

[@mydroogies5529]

Out of all the things to prioritize in Theprogressivebrat's closing statement, her apologizing for misgendering Destiny, of all people. After such an obviously embarrassing and disengaged performance, as she continuously refused to have her positions challenged with hypotheticals. It just perfectly encapsulates the strange, obscure, and irrelevant priorities these lefty zoomers have to the issues at hand.

[@crescendo5594]

Leftists fundamentally hate logic and objectivity. It’s explicitly stated in critical theory literature. They want to acquire power, not determine truth.

[@lawsonharrison6927]

I hope Heem at least got some after

[@tarfielarchelone2674]

@@crescendo5594 leftists are evangelicals?

[@crescendo5594]

@@tarfielarchelone2674 They’re scriptural, yes. I’m not just making shit up. Read the literature. They literally denounce fundamental enlightenment philosophy like objectivity, evidence, and individualism. Every talking point coming from the far left is through the lens of these philosophies directly, or indirectly through praxis.

[@FlexGC]

She's young and naive. What the left preys on.

[@DragonbornMike-ym2er]

This girl isn't going to do well in debates if she keeps this up, literally less than a minute after being upset with destiny at not giving an instant yes or no answer to her question, she diverts his question. Nearly if not everything she says is filled with holes and contradictions. And it doesn't help how she takes everything personally, and the host is protecting her.

[@nineteen96]

Facts

[@pepelechad536]

She did not make a single positive contribution to this entire debate. She never posited an idea, she never stated a factually-accurate account and she never provided a valid criticism. She was only a negative influence in this conversation.

[@sanders555]

@Pepe Le Chad Exactly. As soon as she finished her opening argument I was wondering how tf she even got on this panel.

[@sukoo1]

Well you forget that her world view is self evident. Makes sense when you don't think about it

[@Btree33]

She’s pretty dumb

[@Ric_1-t9e]

“Property is life.” 100% True. I’m a farmer, and my business is everything to me. I’ve seen farmers who had fires wipe out their land (I’m from Australia). And the next day we’ve been out there shooting burnt up livestock, and mopping up the damage. The psychological burden that places on the owner of those farms is traumatising, and something you never fully recover from.

[@goldenTym]

This lady jumped right in head first with the "You're a man don't be mean to me" B.S. Nobody had even said anything to her yet.

[@ChuckFinelyForever]

All the bullshit she spewed and she still the soy boy moderator jumped to her defense at every turn.

[@ianbenjiman]

"Then get out of the kitchen if you can't handle the heat"

[@eliaspatrikis1926]

I think this is a classic example of someone coming into to politics sphere and thinking you can treat it like real life. The girl being like "your not gonna talk to me like that", it's twitch politics dude, people sling shit at each other, roast each other, make stupid memes and stir shit.

[@mauriciocumboobs6645]

Have you ever even been outside? In real life she get absolutely put in her place if she acting like this WTF, are you eu?

[@billjones3963]

The way she instantly went to, because I’m a woman you’re insulting me immediately made me know she was gonna be shit

[@alexd4566]

I think you mean someone who comes from the leftist echochambers on twitter and/or reddit and now actually has to SPEAK against and argue with someone she disagrees with eye to eye

[@ErdTirdMans]

@@mauriciocumboobs6645 TRUE. Twitch politics is way more like debating politics IRL than 90% of political shows. The difference of course being that IRL you don't generally burn bridges because someone doesn't like the same rich power-hungry politician as you

[@DLtheGreat]

I think its the opposite. She debates like its Twitter.

[@KilimnikGenya]

That one guy proved that everyone with a cool British accent isn’t always smart.

[@zacharyharbridge9231]

Or clean. Dude looks like he's covered in dingle berries from head to toe.

[@KilimnikGenya]

@@zacharyharbridge9231 : Lmfao

[@user-rz2sq9fm2g]

He’s a midlander. He doesn’t register in the ‘intellectual’ accents of Britain

[@KilimnikGenya]

@@user-rz2sq9fm2g : Fair enough, as an outsider every time I hear someone like him or Lonerbox talk I think to myself “ohh they must be smart.” Than you start analyzing what they are saying and it is borderline lol.

[@SOak145]

@@user-rz2sq9fm2g It's unfortunate that there are still accents seen as neccessarily 'intellectual' here in the UK , but I take you're point nonetheless.

[@GreaterIsHeAmen]

What scares me, is that she could be part of a jury in this country, to a man who can be completely innocent but if it goes contrary to her agenda she could make your life a living hell

[@martenfredin213]

Hopefully the pool to choose from would be large enough to fill it with people of nuance. I don´t see her being sneaky enough to be able to hide her bias.

[@YungM.D.]

Yeah, first off most people want to avoid jury duty, so she’d likely say whatever it takes to get dismissed. Not too hard. She can just say “I have bias that would be hard to dismiss in this case.” Second off, if enough jurors disagree with her (and they try to get diverse people in there with enough nuance) the jury could just hang and they’ll have to start over.

[@Spookykidshow]

@@YungM.D. unless it was against trump or any other right wing personality she would jump on the chance to convict someone regardless of innocence or guilt

[@laymansterms1776]

IS part of a jury somewhere.

[@ianbenjiman]

She would probably just argue "I'm a black woman and I feel oppressed" to get out of jury duty.

[@tcgdarren5865]

The blank expression on her face when Destiny is explaining how insurance doesn't always fully help tells you all you need to know lmao

[@tiaandeswardt7741]

Dude, they don't know the first fucking thing about insurance. Your premiums go up, you might have a deductible. If a whole block of companies is insured with one firm, then that firm might default, and you are all shit out of luck (this happened with Hurricane Katrina, where some firms didn't want to pay out). As lefties like to point out, insurance firms ALWAYS look for excuses not to pay out. I'm super surprised that you can get insurance against political action in the US. In South Africa, there is one state-owned firm that insures against political action. They recently required massive government bailouts, because of too many claims at the same time

[@energeez]

none of these people are running a business, this has always been obvious

[@ryanodom6101]

Especially from the people who (very often) allegedly hate health insurance and decry it's problems all the time when talking about private vs public healthcare.

[@j3n1us]

Yes, a lot of the private business owners had insurance that couldn’t even cover the clearing of the rubble let alone restart their livelihoods. She really needs to do more factual research before she ever debates again. If you even want to call what she did debating.

[@ryanodom6101]

@@j3n1us There's debating, in which you hold a point of view and provide arguments for it and against a different one. Then there's virtue signaling, in which you repeatedly praise yourself for holding a view and denigrate other for disagreeing with you. Sher probably watched a few "debates" with Michael Eric-Dyson and decided to emulate that.

[@noaffiliation-x8w]

Although she debated abhorrently through most of it, she completely lost it at the property is replaceable argument. It shows ignorance and privilege on so many levels.

[@veritasabsoluta4285]

That's what happens when you live your entire life without any hardship

[@gnomebody2371]

I have been following her on instahoe because well she is really cute. It’s clear what she wants. She saw a bunch of pretty girls get popular and get some money doing this on twitch so she decided to play her had in it. She should have gone the conservative route they make way more money.

[@moldychez5429]

That attitude, the sass, the annoyance, the thinking you are superior, calling everyone "honey" and saying "I don't need your approval" as if that's what they what they cared about, I just can't fucking stand it. She does not belong in debate. Every time she tried to "make a point" was just a half assed attempt to either point out hypocrisy or mischaracterize them to make them look bad. It's fucking ridiculous, and should not be tolerated or defended.

[@moldychez5429]

@@rumlerisom3965 No. You're generalizing. A lot of people do it regardless of skin color. That was kinda racist bro, ngl

[@moldychez5429]

@@rumlerisom3965 and I also see it everywhere that they don't act like that. Dude, just because you live in a shitty place or you're recommended the same KZbin videos over and over doesn't mean that shows what the entire population acts like. Maybe women do it more often but you don't have to exclusively label it as a black women thing.

[@moldychez5429]

@@rumlerisom3965 I gave you the opportunity to clarify and you made it worse. You said that black women are stupid, overconfident, and have no self control. Do you really think that most black women act like that? Do you really think it's a race thing? My guy you're digging your own grave.

[@moldychez5429]

@@rumlerisom3965 Go away. Shoo. I'm done reasoning with you and your non arguments. If you have anything other than your personal experience (maybe a study or an article) then that's proof and we can discuss that. Other than that, I'm done with you.

[@sirjanus3954]

@@rumlerisom3965 brodie i think you may just be racist

[@Kat957]

All I can think of while watching this is how sad it all is that you can bring people from different sides together to argue, but it's nearly impossible to get them to actually engage with each other's arguments.

[@EllipsesMusicc]

It's problematic when people come into it thinking they are correct from the get go. Leaves no room for nuance

[@AppleJacksCereal]

I mean it’s one thing to disagree on theory but there was a lot of dancing around facts here. And when people say “to me,” “I feel like,” etc. There really isn’t any argument to be had.

[@jakej2680]

For real. This was fun to listen to as a comedy, but it honestly has zero intellectual value as a "debate". I can't imagine being the moderator here; I feel like I'd just despair at how childish people are acting. I am new to watching these debates, so I have to ask: do people actually think anything is accomplished here? It feels like there is this veneer of intellectualism over a bunch of people yelling at each in a zoom chat. I guess calling this a debate is kinda like calling Judge Judy a televised court case.

[@SenatorDodo09]

you can bring dumb people together, thats entertainment and its content so its shown more. Actually intelligent conversation also requires an intelligent audience that is also willing to put down time to listen and pay attention for over an hour which isnt too common in our modern age of internet

[@Wallywood187]

The way the mod steps in to defend her so often is crazy. She’s aloud(Edit: allowed *text to talk error but I’ll leave it for transparency to the conversation) to insult, use misinformation, and bait the whole time but the mod only steps in when it’s done to her.

[@BasilAbdef]

Heem probably just felt bad for bringing someone very inexperienced and then throwing her in the proverbial deep end. He was likely trying to be welcoming to someone new and overdid it.

[@Wallywood187]

@@BasilAbdef I can definitely see that, but bad on him for making that choice. Made him look unprofessional and her look stupid. Maybe he should have brought her into help moderate but even that seems like it would have backfired.

[@savageshot3723]

Exactly. His poor excuse is "this is her first time on a panel" That does not matter. She should have studied and focused on what was being discussed opposed to her doing character assassination which contributes nothing to the debate. She has garnered a small following about politics and publicly influenced her listeners about the topic of discussion. I don't like using the term "simp" but if I were to ever give an example, this would be it. He was unfair

[@savageshot3723]

@@BasilAbdef Hypothetically let's say you've never been on a panel. I don't know you. I honestly believe your first time, you would have contributed more than her. You learn the basics of debate in school and she shows little to no knowledge on how it should be done. It's painfully obvious. I'm liberal but she just shouldn't be involved.

[@tyberiusmcintyre3411]

and then shark was completely left hanging constantly XD

[@hunteravallone]

I don't know what I hate more. Rob Noerr, or the fact I'm agreeing with him on this panel so far...

[@vidzorko4492]

Who?

[@TheKvltPantShater]

Ahhh Hunter my dude. You abandoned us Conservatives :(

[@GlennYarwood]

@@vidzorko4492 the 3rd guy to introduce himself

[@MMAGamblingTips]

@@TheKvltPantShater Conservatives abandoned their own values when they failed to hold people accountable for even storming the Capitol.

[@John3_16_]

@@MMAGamblingTips some idiots walked into the capital, an innocent Air Force veteran was shot and murdered. What else tragically ruined your life the day the “insurrection” happened?

[@SteeleNThunder]

It's so funny how she tells everyone to be quiet when she is speaking, but can't keep her trap shut when other people are speaking or even responding to her point. How annoying.

[@MarrsJ]

"We're not about to question me on this debate panel" "We're not about to question my knowledge of the case on this debate panel" "We're not about to single me out for something I said on this debate panel" Fucking christ

[@lawsonharrison6927]

Can Iran take her back?

[@AnimeFan9833]

I actually agree or do we suddenly think it's valid when MikefromRedacted screams random questions to test his opponents knowledge?

[@tehking111]

@@AnimeFan9833 when Mike does it, he just starts naming random stuff until he finds a term he read up 20 mins ago so he can lecture you about how you don't know anything. With her, she said so many mindless and dumb things like "couldnt he wait a few seconds before shooting?" "Kyle is a white supremacist because he did X after the shooting" you have to start asking the question, do you know what we're talking about?

[@leroture7750]

@@AnimeFan9833 You okay bud? The initial question about the facts of the case are to make sure that this isn’t just going to be a debate with someone in a different reality who needs to be educated. There’s no point in talking about the morality or legality of a situation if both people have a fundamentally different understanding of what actually happened. Forcing her yo explain what happened shows conclusively whether she has the facts of the case or not.

[@AnimeFan9833]

@@leroture7750 No I'm literally shaking and shidding right now. Anyway, you probably have a point but I don't believe it's very fair to pick out an individual panel member to recount the entire thing you're talking about. You can also disagree on the facts of the matter, that's something you will have to deal with in these discussions. Do you think Destiny would ever go: "Well, we disagree too hard, I'm leaving this panel right now."?

[@christianrobinson5857]

"Are you going to get medical care from a guy with an AR-15" As a former combat medic, I can honestly tell you, yes.

[@legin777]

I've never understood the "medic doesn't mean has a rifle" thing. Like wtf are people talking about? medics/fmf corpsman are strapped just as much as anyone else.

[@christianrobinson5857]

@@legin777 it's asinine, it comes from the misunderstanding of how war law is understood. Medics and medical personnel are only allowed to carry "defensive" weapons. Which the M4A1 rifle being semi automatic, and with a caliber of only 5.56 it is classified as a defensive weapon. Not only that unlike most personnel whose job is just to shoot, medics are also given a 9mm berreta handgun. This is so that when caring for a patient, if an enemy comes upon you while one hand is doing the necessary life saving intervention, you can protect yourself and your patient from the enemy

[@OrdoAbChao-kg5rf]

These people are so deluded. I don't want to believe it.

[@brandonislemons]

@Trade Bum Simmons Nigel literally answered your question In the comment above. A medic would carry an m4 which is worse in many ways to an AR. ARs are far more customizable and are basically the same rifle. I was under the impression that the m4 had full auto or the three round burst tho, which would be it's only advantage to an AR

[@christianrobinson5857]

@Trade Bum Simmons no if they ridle steps above semi auto it is offensive, if the rifle steps above 5.56 to a 7.62 it is offensive. If it uses armor piercing rounds it is offensive. The AR-15 is modeled off a M1A4 Carbine. The 9mm is a small enough caliber that ammunition is plentiful on the battlefield. Most European Submachine Guns use it, this is why we switched from the .45 to the 9mm. It was so when you see a downed soldier ammunition is standardized.

[@alexthecreator8380]

As a black conservative and a person who cares about their community i can honestly say there are things i disagree with destiny about...this is not one of them if i ever ran into him i would take a picture with him and that doesnt mean i agree 100% but i respect his consistency

[@skuzzlebutt9745]

But would you be willing too have sex with him?

[@yt_hatescrime_data4301]

That chick is so far gone. Imagine someone like her being in charge of anything (country, city, or a business)... 🤦‍♂️

[@judgedbytime]

They are all around us, especially above us in corporate hierarchy. This is the future of the majority.

[@LookatDaddy]

AOC

[@Spaceman_7]

Dude, fuck no.

[@toxicwaltz0863]

Or a child

[@ExilixE]

We gotta repeal the 19th amendment 🤦🏻 This is why a majority of woman did not want to vote in the 18-1900's. Because they're not as informed and they base their decisions off their emotion. Independent critical thinkers should be the only one's voting. These single issue voters are killing America and our integrity

[@loominnaughty]

“You’re not doing as well as you think you’re doing” was a fuckin gut buster for me.

[@toecutter303]

She's making the stereotype about women's emotional control very true.

[@alejandroc7357]

Most women do that anyways. But they never want to acknowledge it 😂

[@Sheahova]

I love how she said she can’t speak but she talked/laughed for 70% of this.

[@westnerrs2084]

It’s not a stereotype. People may say it is but those same people say we’re all the same and skin Color is all that matters

[@MrBurns0618]

Women are more emotional than men. Simple as that. Most of the time (from my experience luckily) the women I’ve been around are not as insane and unhinged as this crack pot

[@zzrroott6459]

Its not a stereotype. Its a pattern

[@jaredmello]

Destiny telling her she was using 10% of her brain had me rolling 🤣

[@ihsahnakerfeldt9280]

Which is a very mild insult tbh

[@Torcus100]

@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 honestly i wouldnt have even done that yea its for the luls but it just sews mistrust and chagrin. I found the best way to deal with these kinds of people is to literally ignore them. If they dont want to actually contribute to the debate or discussion then dont give them anything to debate. For example when she kept saying Proud boys proud boys proud boys ad nauseum just let her keep saying it till she stops and just talk to someone else straight up ignore her and be like so shark what do you think about this. Its kinda funny af too, still funny without directly insulting.

[@BladedBear]

He was being very kind there....as moronic as she sounded, she was easily using 100% of her brain in this panel. She likely had to lay down after it was over.

[@ihsahnakerfeldt9280]

@@Torcus100 If you think about it, it's barely an insult. You're basically telling someone they're much more intelligent than what the point they're making made them out to be.

[@kevinprzy4539]

idk I think he was saying she's so disabled to the point where she can only use 10% of her brain lmao@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280

[@kolst]

I lost my shit at 38:11 when the "dedicated progressive" reveals she doesn't even understand the decentralized structure of the BLM organization.

[@98danielray]

I cringed

[@enlightenednormie242]

@@98danielray Your pfp gave me Night terrors😂🌹

[@theclimbto1]

To be fair, it's hard to understand. On the one hand, the 3 Founders straight up say it is not an organization. It is ONLY a Movement. HOWEVER, it's also an International Non-Profit Organization. And they ALSO have Charters at Colleges. Which Movements don't have, only Organizations do. So she is technically correct. It IS BOTH an Organization and a Movement. However, that should be Rob's Argument. Her argument should be it's ONLY a Movement, as the Founders stated. So it's funny that Rob was echoing the Founders, and she was pointing of that it's actually an Organization. That part was pure gold.

[@dbz287]

Destiny catching Heem and Progressivebrat on that “honey” thing was so satisfying

[@oludus326]

stamp?

[@Fergussen]

@@oludus326 1:08:28

[@user-sk4ds1rg1z]

Heems simping was fucking pathetic

[@isafarooq1721]

@@user-sk4ds1rg1z amen, he should at least simp for someone with good takes

[@LoudWaffle]

Bruh that blew my mind, I didn't even remember her calling people honey, but the fact that Destiny heard it and kept it as ammo for that moment (knowing how they'd react) was excellent.

[@fatnose0]

I live for leftist reacting live to learning about the Jacob Blake story they defended on Twitter months before.

[@Gogofam123]

Hit the nail right in the head. It’s when student doesn’t know the subject on the test and then finds out correct answers when teacher shows actual mistakes and correct answers.

[@spooky6049]

No kidding. It's funny. What disturbs me about this is how confident they are about shit they are not fully informed about.

[@fatnose0]

@@spooky6049 it's like you can read the "ooooooff wait he's a kidnapping rapist? Fuuuuuuck that sounds kinda baaad I thought he just did the weed or smthg idk"

[@SoldierGeneral64]

The cops had every right to apprehend him, but how is 7 shots in the back justified?

[@Gogofam123]

@@SoldierGeneral64 if you are attacking cop you are ready to die . You engaged in assault that gives rights to victim to stop you ( weather you survive or not is a matter of specific situation) . Cops put themselves in danger voluntarily on daily basis for PUBLIC SAFETY , therefore we the society agreed to give them some PROTECTION ( more strict rules about touching or assault them) .

[@JustN0tMe]

Jesus I was rewatching this and it's nerve-racking how everytime someone tries to make a point or explain a point, someone else interrupts just to complain about something worthless, whine, get triggered or just try to respond to a point said a while ago

[@ianrusttattoos]

Rob predicts he'll be interrupted in 5 seconds. Is proven dreadfully wrong when it takes someone 8 seconds to interrupt him.

[@gaussminigun]

Haaaaaaaaa

[@Tecrus]

When Progressive Brat gets called out for misgendering "I've done my research on you Destiny." Good to see she did more research one who she'd be talking to instead of doing the research on the case she'd be talking about.

[@gaussminigun]

Oooof

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

Lets be real she hasn't done F all research she'd just sat in on a few Destiny hate cope circlejerks

[@paulares292]

There are things that, in any given subject, are dead give-away's that someone has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. In the context of guns, statements like "Why couldn't he just shoot him in the leg?" or in this specific conversation "why couldn't he just wait a few more seconds before he shot someone" (as if that would have appeased her even if he did this) instantly reveal that someone has no idea what goes on during a deadly confrontation. I don't know why people feel so equipped to talk so confidently about things they have no knowledge of at all. I don't even care that they don't have direct experience... it's not like the only experts on deadly force are people that have been in 1,000 firefights... but people who have done zero homework at all on what happens in someones' head when they get punched or shot at shouldn't be so smug about how people should behave in a gunfight.

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

You're completely right. I understand the panels are kind of like its own ways of drama stream, but it makes me really sad and pessimistic about the future when I turn on a political stream and literally 99% of people are complete clueless moronic radicals, acting all smug. I hope these people never have any political power but since there is so many of them, what can the odds be, you know?

[@117Ender]

@@Bai_Su_Zhen there was a video about a blm protester or leader agreeing to go to a police excercise on how to decide in seconds whose a threat and act on the threat. look at how he does and his post thoughts. the issue is most ppl, arent gun owners, havnt gone to a range dont know, gun safety, and most of all have lived such prilivage and safe lives they dont know how quickly things escalate and how badly things can go.

[@117Ender]

@@Bai_Su_Zhen kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5fMZIGanZihY8k&ab_channel=FOX10Phoenix

[@paulares292]

@@117Ender I will say I that Im SUPER suspicious of any training environment where you are forced to make an engagement, or scenarios that are always crafted for you to shoot someone. Like, how many times are they crafting scenarios where the correct answer is for the cop to literally just walk away?

[@shadowgame0630]

@@paulares292 well the point is to show how many seconds you have to make a decision, rather than what type of decision you should make whether it be lethal or passive action. It moreso defends the idea that people can easily make mistakes in these high tension scenarios rather than saying you should always be ready to shoot to kill

[@reasonablechristianity]

Moderator wasn't kind to Destiny at all. Like seriously. He gets called Brain Poison and a bunch of other things but he says let's use more than 10% of our brains here and he gets called out for name calling. Like how is that name calling, telling people to think critically for a moment. Earned yourself a sub my man, I disagree with you on a lot of things probably on most things but you are a critical thinker and I respect that.

[@mareksevcik853]

I know conversations like these probably take toll on destiny's well being but goddamn videos like this where he just talks to people that don't even seem to live in same universe as us is hilarious

[@kemori_]

destiny does not care

[@kokosnotenXD]

I feel bad for destiny, his sanity must be having a tough time with all of this but goddamn this is toptier garbage conversations and I love the chaos of it

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

@@kemori_ he mentions his brain rotting at least once a week lmao

[@redshift912]

he talks to jlp a decent amount .. im sure he is fine

[@ihsahnakerfeldt9280]

Destiny is slowly kind of becoming a pick-me lefty tbh

[@thisisaname2250]

She is definitely too thin skinned to be on a debate panel like this.

[@trippasnippa119]

Idk about that i think shes strong enough she just needs to not get caught up on addressing the insults and condescension but besides that she seemed to roll with the blows fine

[@bigben3089]

I agree. If your first go to for someone challenging you on your positions in a debate panel is “mansplaining”, you’re just not built for this.

[@gaussminigun]

@@trippasnippa119 nah shes scarred for life

[@InternetResearch]

Destiny got misgendered in this panel

[@jonw3462]

Less than 30 mins in and I'm gona have to watch this when more relaxed. Listening to multiple adults refuse to awnser questions and act like emotional kids with victim mentalities is my cryptonite. stress wise.

[@hueco5002]

Brat, if someone is going after the property I use to make my livelihood, it is apparent that THEY care about property more than human life - specifically their own. She honestly pissed me off. Her point boils down to: population A has a grievance and hasn’t felt heard for years by the government so that gives them the right to steal and destroy from uninvolved random dude B. You want to make a political statement? Go destroy a political building. Knocking over Nordstroms isn’t calling attention to the blm plight.

[@johnd1047]

Alright, I’ve almost never call someone a simp in sincerity. However, this mod ONLY brought up manners and respect when someone gave any pushback to the entitled brat.

[@georghenschen4686]

I think that's an unfair characterization, he was trying to help her since it was her first time on a political panel. She still made bad arguments, but I don't think the host was simping in this case.

[@imyournme6632]

@@georghenschen4686 He still overdid it to the point where even Destiny called him out on simping for her. So there is that

[@ihsahnakerfeldt9280]

@@georghenschen4686 He wouldn't do that if she were a guy in his first debate, so yes it IS simping in its most basic form.

[@johnd1047]

3:1….my opinion has been rationalized. Thank you, fellow humans.

[@AppleJacksCereal]

@@johnd1047lol nice

[@KevinVBC]

I feel embarrassed that I have the same name as Kevin

[@teddyeastside8051]

She went to Iran on holiday so she could say “I lived in Iran” for every argument.

[@poetryonplastic]

The Tulsa analogy was one of the most brutal mental beatings I've ever seen.

[@haramsaddam238]

@@Debate_Pervert “I dOn’T tHiNk PeOpLe ShOuLd DiE aT aLl.” She can’t comprehend differing circumstances.

[@DietersYT]

She kept conflating protests and rioting too

[@ironjiujitsugear]

How Destiny remains a lefty after interacting with these people is beyond me

[@alexanderkempf9828]

Well, Destiny said he supports children being turned into sex dolls as long as they are unconscious. Pretty crazy mix of beliefs.

[@edwardowens19]

I’m right wing and my position on the this is mostly the same as what he is saying here. The leftists are just not living in reality and don’t understand anything.

[@drewmyers3916]

because like joe rogan, they are kind of rationale leftys. if u change politics sinply because the side youre on became radicalized then did u really have faith in your beleifs in the first place?

[@thereisnopandemic]

The left eats their own. Logic is not easily grasped by many.

[@LuciusSicarius]

12:26 Honestly the dude being released from the hospital after attempting suicide the same day as the riot just strengthens the self defense argument even more. Because now you aren't just dealing with angry dude, you're dealing with a suicidal angry dude who just doesn't give a fuck.

[@DustbinFunkbndr]

Can’t believe it’s been a year since this came out. A true classic panel imo. I fucking love this and it’s a worthy rewatch

[@blackfangofargentina]

Came back to it after progressive brat rebranded and called destiny a rapist for calling out women for being shit at setting boundaries during encounters, so good

[@darkwin1977]

its my first time watching it. and is painfull to hear while do something else. i lose my patience at the clear inconsistency, double standard and unwillingness to understand anyone points... i often encounter it IRL, but most people drop the subject, she pushes on intead...

[@bigstonks7361]

We iranians don't claim this girl

[@coltonconnor112]

I don't agree with alot of destiny's positions but I can always count on him trying to look at all evidence in any situation as objectively as possible. Why does it seem like the more progressive you claim to be the shittier of a person you come off as.

[@jeremias-serus]

True, but it’s the same thing with conservatives and the farther you go to that side. The reason is centrism. Just don’t be extreme and you’ll be right almost every time.

[@kyelarsinkey5534]

"my country" meanwhile she said 10 minutes prior that she lived there for 1 singular year, okkk ms. manipulative

[@monkeydude2424]

I didn’t know her name at first and thought they were just insulting her lol

[@vegalyra1517]

🤣🤣

[@Blangblangboy]

😂 😂

[@cinemarat1834]

OMEGALUL the brat

[@searsino]

lmfao same

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

Lmao

[@S.A.O.D.A]

This panel: "And that is why this side of the aisle is mistaken about these socio-economic issues." "Interesting, but what can this tell us about the situation with Kyle?" "Kyle?"

[@banger320]

Sword art sucks

[@S.A.O.D.A]

@@banger320 Asuka is better

[@S.A.O.D.A]

@@diobrando6910 At least people could sit through that first season. Seethe.

[@BillRevis]

@@diobrando6910 It didn't have one good season

[@csharpcoffee]

@@BillRevis first 12 episodes (which are arguably their own season) was pretty good, with the biggest flaw being the pacing. Sadly the source material was written in a contest with limited time, which made the story rushed. Anything outside the Aincrad arc is just impossible to defend, sadly. I read the SAO Progressive light novels and they are pretty good. That's what SAO should have been from the beginning.

[@psSubstratum]

I for some reason didnt like Destiny when I first discovered him. but jesus, now? he truly gained all my respect! you really can see on this panel how ideological thinking can poison peoples minds. it doesnt even allow you to admit simple factual or reasonable statements as to be true. Destiny is the only one here who‘s sane

[@machine123e456]

I think he used to be worse, and less fact based. Lately though, he's been on point

[@clubbedsandwich1128]

I think Destiny would agree that his early self was justifiably unlikeable.

[@nulltheworm]

Rob and Destiny as a tag-team duo is the kind of plot twist we didn't expect but can fully appreciate. 1:30:00 😂😂😂

[@DrDaveDavington]

Dude that fucking sent me XD. They should tag more often

[@famalam943]

He was totally playing on it, and she asked for it

[@lonewaer]

Rob had me rolling when he shouted "LOOK ! SHE JUST DID IT !" and pointing at his screen.

[@Hbizzjohnson]

the moral of this story is just cause you need a girl to offset the boy to girl ratio... dont just get any girl lol there are plenty of ones that can connect with what someones saying lol

[@thelongstory6395]

And don't be giving slack just because it's their 'first time'. None of that simping shit, Jesus Christ.

[@Hbizzjohnson]

@@thelongstory6395 for real its like watching a homeless person showing off their home and the moderator says it might be a cardboad box but give some slack its their first time lmao

[@crazyman22444]

I have so much respect for Destiny. Mad props on your dedication to facts and logic.

[@Extraterrestrial-Bilu]

"What about conservatives calling Big Bird communist though..." That's the mother of all whataboutisms.

[@Pale_ghost]

that guy was like: oh your poisoned by progresivism, but at the same time hes poisoned by stupid conservative takes that get posted on reddit.

[@cannongerber3257]

This “moderator” is an absolute clown who is so ideologically trapped that he can’t moderate a debate in an unbiased manner

[@jonathan6591]

Heemed is actually such a fool. I saw him unironically supporting or downplaying teenagers stealing candy on Halloween. Not the biggest deal, but it seemed like he was just making an anti-point just because "conservatives" seemed to support the other side

[@camiloelgueta2213]

Man, also asking for subs? Naa

[@justinbrandt8415]

Thinking the same thing🤡🤡🤡

[@skoomaenjoyer9582]

@@camiloelgueta2213 asking for subs would've been fine if his moderation was good. Too much screaming left unchecked and of course, the lopsided checks on insults.

[@pepelechad536]

It wasn't ideological, it was far worse - my brother was simping.

[@tiaandeswardt7741]

'We're not talking about a video game, Destiny. This is real-life' I'm going to videogame myself

[@seanmac1793]

But this is real life

[@jackhawk8997]

@@seanmac1793 r/whoosh

[@Weezypillar]

The fact "influencers" are entering the debate sphere is hilarious. Progressivebrat is everything I see wrong with these young people attempting to sound intelligent and gaining traction because theyre a social media personality.

[@yourlogicalnightmare1014]

She's there for her cuteness, nothing else

[@Whocaresanymore970]

​@@yourlogicalnightmare1014She's not even attractive though haha

[@matthewskullblood9778]

​@@yourlogicalnightmare1014her what?

[@lukecodz]

@@matthewskullblood9778”cuteness”

[@goldcrewisADORABLE]

What is this???? 1:00:44

[@johnkennedy6657]

Destiny reminds me of the one dude in my Army unit that had an opinion about everything that anyone was talking about, usually a contentious opinion, then when everyone else started taking sides and arguing about it, would sit back in a corner of the room and thoroughly enjoy the conflict, sometimes with a huge smile on his face.

[@Esoliken]

This is literally every panel Destiny is on.

[@johnkennedy6657]

@@Esoliken Maybe that’s why, despite pretty significant differences between the way he and I view the world, I can’t help but like who he seems to be.

[@Esoliken]

@@johnkennedy6657 Yeah, I tend to agree with Destiny, but I love that behavior so much I go to watch them old blood sports debates to watch the idiots tear themselves apart whenever Destiny or Metokur enters a room.

[@MinecrafWolf]

Same, it's why I love bloodsports

[@Commandant_Aeon]

Hey, be respectful. Shit creates itself, we only love to stir it.

[@brjoey]

Holy crap, she actually failed the conditional hypothetical meme.

[@Winasaurus]

"bad thing (in a video game)" "WELL WE'RE NOT IN A VIDEO GAME, WE'RE IN REAL LIFE!!" My jaw actually dropped. Sub-zero IQ.

[@spazzymgee654]

And this wasn't even destiny at full power. Now if he had ordered pizza instead...

[@kelaziel]

His final form eats pizza with one hand and plays piano with the other.

[@Lordbel]

This Ariana girl needs to get a reality check and realize she’s not the main character same with that British guy

[@twistedfox9445]

as much as I don't agree with their points the british guy was not on the same level as ariana in terms of bad

[@acenine8149]

@@twistedfox9445 I’d say he’s worse. She may have been too stupid too actually understand the conversation fully, the other guy strikes me as intelligent enough to actually understand it, but he consistently vomits out intentionally garbage takes over and over to derail the conversation.

[@magrathean0]

"a white, gated community perspective" - Destiny brings grenades to every discussion. A well placed bombing run

[@justinwebber9968]

How on earth do you tell if your attacker is mentally ill? Even if you could tell, it doesn't change the fact you're being attacked. Plus, If you said, based on the conversation they had prior, half of this panel sounds mentally ill, and I'm dead serious. We've reached DEFCON 4 levels of hysteria.

[@theclimbto1]

"I don't think anyone should die due to a protest." Riot. He asked about a riot. You keep saying protest.

[@yesfredfredburger8008]

Somebody calling themselves a brat is a red flag

[@halffox102]

It's crazy how you're a smaller lefty streamer going on a panel show with some pretty big political twitch streamers and you think this is the way to get people over to your side and get popular. Embarrassing

[@roymarshall_]

This is what happens you consume too much #bossgirl content and not enough actual information

[@juliantheedoctor]

I never thought I'd see the day Rob would be on the reasonable side of the debate.

[@caitlinharper1633]

I dont understand where in their brains they think that looting, burning, and destroying communities is an appropriate response to the loss of a life? How does that help anyone? It just causes more pain, suffering, and more lives lost. I feel like that was never addressed.

[@ElderKaius]

Yeah, idk what it is, but anytime theres a woman on here, they really make misogyny make sense😂

[@funsterkeyven]

it pisses me off that people are allowed to riot and that's not called out as the Worst Thing Ever but those protecting their own community are under serious suspicion or condemned.

[@BladedBear]

Yeah....at this point I'm just looking for other countries to migrate to. This place is doomed. People like "progressivebrat" are already in Congress now....this is the epitome of 'fake country'.

[@yunghastly]

Let's do something about it, better than watching these kids argue about it, while no one else gives a damn. This is far more entertainment than informational.

[@mercedesmaynard3194]

I really don't like women like her. I had a friend like her a while back who would start debates with our male friends and as soon as she couldn't come up with any more counter arguments she would just start getting all angry and say stupid stuff like "You're just disagreeing with me because I'm a woman! You're sexist! Bla Bla bla." She became impossible to reason with. Had to cut ties after she just kept getting more and more toxic.

[@hartyewh1]

When the question is "are impoverished people allowed to fight back when all of their material posessions are being forcefully taken away?" saying something so fucking simplistic as "I don't think it's nice for people to die over property" is nowhere close to an answer. I wish we could put people in simulators to experience an actual event for once in their silly lives.

[@traezin]

With psychedelics being re-introduced within psychiatric work we might stumble upon a way of “simulating” these real life scenarios in order to push reality into the forefront of the overly naive and benign.

[@hartyewh1]

@@traezin A really good and a really bad trip might be just the thing in general to balance out some people.

[@traezin]

@@hartyewh1 A good and bad trip will aid in stumbling upon an equilibrium, but to maintain that equilibrium would be a battle between one’s ego and reality. We need to discover the most efficient way to defeat the ego’s of the delusional. Ego death through say DMT might not be enough, there’s security within ignorance… bliss.

[@shadowgame0630]

we should put people in a time loop where the only way to break out is to engage with the hypothetical

[@SoldierGeneral64]

There is a difference between defending ones property while on the property and being a vigilante. If you go into a crowd of rioters to stop riotous activity by yourself what do you think will happen?

[@Lubufu]

As someone from the UK I am amazed at caliber people from the UK that keep appearing on panels such as this. First we have to suffer through Vivian's endless meme level nonsense and now this meathead comes out talking about the self defense rights of the assailants 🤦‍♂️ smh

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

Yeah, y'all should probably sit this one out.

[@MinecrafWolf]

That's what happens when your Conservative party isn't conservative. Long live the queen.

[@jebstevens4129]

Fellow Brit bonger here im sorry for our input to these debates

[@davidc5867]

“Life is more important than property” “most of them were insured” ah shit here we go again

[@hamburgerjones695]

Leave it to the Brit to say that the amercian didn’t have the right to defend himself and should be jailed.

[@littlefish1069]

It’s a year later and it still aggravates me that anyone thinks someone burning down your business is only a threat to property. How the hell is someone meant to assume they’ll be totally unharmed when their business is being burned down?

[@Tupiniquinho]

Imagine the amiunt of time people put into their business, specially if it's a family business, the effort, all the things they missed to be there to make that business grow and then a bunch of midwits appear out of nowhere saying they're "mad" at police and want to burn it all down, for a reason totally unrelated to you. A whole section of your life is basically murdered because of 20 people that can't control themselves.

[@drewmyers3916]

black people in those riots were literally beating their own people to break into those peoples business's. they always say "is ypur personal property more important then human lives" when obviously the rioters thought so.

[@shytguy]

@@Tupiniquinhowhen you put it that way, lethal force should be allowed to defend property. Because it’s so true what you said.

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

"I will not allow you to disrespect me like that" Nah, I think that was the right amount of respect.

[@Wahooney]

I've worked with someone like PB before, prototypeical crybully completely oblivious of their own disruptive behaviour while pointing it out in others, and the only reason the others participate in that behaviour is because of her gender.

[@Dat1G1]

I feel so bad for ever thinking Prime was a bad moderator