Detrans: Should HRT be illegal?

[@O-pm8bb]

I’m a trans man and I can agree with this. I definitely think nowadays a lot of people tend to equates dysphoria with being uncomfortable with society’s gender expectations. While I am not against informed consent because I think adults should have full bodily autonomy and freedom I do think therapy should be encouraged before even thinking about a medical transition. I am very happy I got hrt and it genuinely saved my life but it is something that needs to be approached with precaution. I do wish people could not think so black and white. Not everyone is trans and some people mistake other problems for gender dysphoria but there are some people like myself in which gender dysphoria has literally destroyed my life and the only thing that has given me relief is medical transition.

[@Howletttown]

Then stop gate keeping. Why is it always a transmasc? First your kind attacked a school and brought literal hell on us. Now this? Get out of here.

[@Necrophyllis.]

The whole idea that hrt is easy to access is bizzare to me, because its not easy. There a ton of appointments you have to do, years of waitlists, a lot of refusal. Its not easy thats just the transphobes trying to make it sound like kids are being given hrt like candy.

[@WearyWayfarer]

If you go private (genderGP) you get hrt after one consultation?? Thats what i did, i only did because of crazy long waitlists on the NHS, neither options are ideal

[@Arkcoid]

Yup American here, With informed consent had two appointments(consultation then health check)​+1000$ your on your way @@WearyWayfarer

[@cherie3000]

It actually is being given out like opioids. Like candy.

[@Necrophyllis.]

@cherie3000 it's really not

[@thelilykatherine]

@@cherie3000 no, it's not because very few people want it and they've generally informed themselves and spent a very long time deciding if it's right for them. it's also worth considering that informed consent is the model almost all trans people want because of how difficult transphobia can make things for them.

[@moviezone10]

I was born with disorder of sex development (intersex) and I need hrt 😭cause my body produces little estrogen

[@WearyWayfarer]

Obviouly some people neeed hrt, im talking from the trans angle :)

[@EllieMae99]

​@@WearyWayfarerand we still should have access to HRT of course.

[@IrisRainbowHeart]

This conversation is so important because a lot of people in the trans community, including the majority people I know, act like taking hormones is no big deal, they act like it's reversible & that health effects are rare but that's just not true. As a 30 something year old I was on testosterone only for a couple of months. I got it from Planned Parenthood, the people who prescribed it basically had no idea what they were doing. They didn't screen me for mental health or health risks whatsoever. I started having some pretty severe side effects pretty quickly and I wanted to stop but I also felt addicted to the testosterone. Luckily I was able to quit cold turkey but there was damage that was done and it took me about a year to really bounce back, some things will remain changed because I have a hormonal disorder and I should have been screened for that before I was prescribed cross sex hormones but there were no barriers to access. I don't believe in banning HRT but I think that there does need to be some gatekeeping and there needs to be safeguards in place because taking cross sex hormones can be very dangerous and can lead to lifelong health complications and even in some cases death.

[@TheMoonkitty]

Thank you for being brave enough to say these truths.

[@WearyWayfarer]

Thank you for watching and supporting!

[@elf-fae]

Water the monstera please 🥺 Thank you

[@thelilykatherine]

Just a thought, but "informed consent" doesn't mean we know everything about what HRT does. If you are simply aware that we don't know, then you are still making an informed decision. :)

[@appaatemomo-freePalestine]

People really just need to trust every major medical organization on this one. The under 1% of people who detransition because they realize they are cis should not be able to prevent the other 99% who transition from being able to access life-saving medical care. That is a ridiculous idea.

[@WearyWayfarer]

'Trust every major medical orginization' yeah no thank. Those companies exist to generate money. Just google 'pfizer lawsuits' and youll see they pay billions a year in compensation and still make a profit.. its disgusting to even think about the lifes ruined and lost. And '1%' '99%' these numbers are just made up, no one can ever know the numbers of these things. No one has ever asked me if i was satisfied with my transistion, neither has anyone i know so you cant trust those.

[@appaatemomo-freePalestine]

@@WearyWayfarer I said "medical organization" not "pharmaceutical company". You should really know the difference. And studies are not "made up" just because they do not survey every single person of a group. I'm sorry if you were not satisfied with your transition. That is not a reason to prevent others from transitioning. There is a 6-30% regret rate for knee replacement surgery. Is that a good reason to make knee replacement surgery illegal?

[@10storme]

If you lived in the 40s you would be arguing to "trust the science" on how great lobotomies are

[@appaatemomo-freePalestine]

@@10storme If you're going to make that argument, then why do you trust any medical procedure whatsoever? Should all medical procedures and medications be banned?

[@10storme]

​@@appaatemomo-freePalestine No, just the ones that are obviously evi| and barbar|c and where the alleged science is blatantly bought and paid for nonsense

[@Violetforflowers144]

u ruined ur life but mine was saved from estrogen started at 16 and 23 now never look back

[@Violetforflowers144]

good for you though for understanding that hrt is not for you.

[@Howletttown]

Embracing people like this video creator has done irrepairable damage to our rights. People him him should be shunned. He and his ilk can pry my HRT from my cold unalived hands.

[@loujew8973]

HRT is given to women going through menopause to help relieve some of the symptoms. However I think as a whole HRT and testosterone prescribed for gender change needs to have stricter laws etc. As there are so many detrans now some of who are living life long consequences from HRT/Testosterone and surgery. I watched one detrans girl who started on T when she was like 14, she detransitioned when she was like 18 but is now going through the menopause at 19 meaning she will never have children all because of a decision she made as a teenager which she later on realised was wrong. I've watched a few of your videos your a strong guy please keep sharing your journey with everyone.

[@WearyWayfarer]

Yes this video is purely about trans hrt and yes it can be extrememly damanging in the wrong hands, especially testosterone

[@aspasialogica8416]

Even women going thru menopause and perimenopause know the dangers of HRT. I had a miserable perimenopause, but still decided not to go on HRT after weighing the side-effects. And that's a decision I made as a 45 year old woman, not a confused 16 year-old girl.

[@w.urlitzer1869]

will retrans be next?

[@cherie3000]

Already thousands of detransitioners. So many that there is a detransitioners day.

[@Aatell764]

I don't necessarily think informed consent should be necessarily stopped but it shouldn't be as easy as it is. Like not just giving you a booklet on side effects it should be a whole list of required readings and then quizzes on it. I think most people's problem with the old system is how low long it takes to get on HRT, i think you should have to do a bit of counseling but it should be streamlined in a way where it doesn't take 3 years and tens of thousands of dollars in counseling. I would like to think that if you stuck through 6 months of counseling odds are you are committed to transitioning otherwise you would have been talked out of it by your therapist asking you the right questions ect. But anyways I think HRT can be a wonderful thing for certain people. Women going through menopause or this one is a bit controversial but if a man is 50yo and he finds out his testicles aren't able to do their job anymore I think he should be able to get on HRT to prolong his quality of life. Men suffer a lot from low testosterone, not just physically but mentally. My uncle was suffering from low T he is 55 and the doctor put him on anti depressants and something to help with his anxiety which he never really suffered from till he got older, ended up getting hrt and it magically cured his depression and anxiety, he doesn't take anti depressants anymore. His depression and anxiety stemmed from low T because he was one of those people who literally had nothing to be depressed about but found it hard to even want to live anymore.

[@cherie3000]

Grama took estrogene for menopause and she died of cancer at 65

[@moviezone10]

Damn

[@moviezone10]

I’m sorry

[@johnnybertrand2039]

probably fromsomething other then the estrogen at 65

[@DorianPaige00]

The risk isn't there if she had a hysterectomy. I didn't even get breasts on estrogen so there's little risk of prostate cancer since I had my testicles removed. Do me a favor. Tell pro-athletes and military personal to wait until they are 26 to sign contracts then. If one can marry or has age of majority status, then it's a human right violation and genocide to deny HRT or imprison for homosexual sex. You want transgenders out of competition and colleges and this is exactly how you do it yet conservative prosecutors charge 14 year olds as adults. A person who is gender dysphoric and wants to transition can't get married or have relationships because they don't have the power to change their body and become who they want to be. They will feel uncomfortable in their body and it would be hard to ask a potential partner if they would accept you when the changes would occur. When the patient turns 26, I'm sure you'll have some other grift or study citing medical harm. It's just a stall tactic meant to disrupt a transgender person's life. In the meantime you'll probably want everyone who is doing fine on their regimens to come off and then the hell with the physical and mental health issues that come with that. The conservative governor of Louisiana, Jeff Landry, said men who offend can be castrated upon parole with no medical complications. Watch what incentives you give us! Criminals convicted of sex offenses now have more rights than those who are transgender and/or use gender medicine.

[@luvall7076]

You remind me of John Lennon ❤

[@leticiacantu9141]

You are rigth, hormones are not candies, and people need to be careful and Know all about risks. A lot ot cases of disforia began as a result of traumas, abuses, paternal abandonmen, people need to discover the real causes of their disforia . Is very important to Share your experencies and help others. 🙏🏻👍🏻👏🏻⭐️

[@Howletttown]

No, absolutely not. Just because you had a bad go doesn't mean you get to take it from people like me who haven't had a bad go. Stop trying to hurt people with your story. It's not one size fits all.

[@Howletttown]

And to be clear if you do ban my meds I will just seek out DIY routes which are much less safe than buying it from a pharmacy. You do not get to make this choice for people like me who have benefitted from HRT without accepting that the irreparable harm done to us by passing such laws when we have to seek out alternatives is solely on you buddy.

[@cherie3000]

For under 25. Should be illegal.

[@GrandDukeOfNoMansLand]

It should be illegal for all ages.

[@hn7515]

You can get strong alcoholic stuff before that. You are being ridiculous.

[@cherie3000]

@@hn7515 do u even have kids

[@hn7515]

@@cherie3000 How is that relevant?

[@Violetforflowers144]

absolutely not 0.0

[@kenziehurlock]

It shouldn't be given to anyone who has gender dysphoria. HRT is for menopause and other related issues.

[@EllieMae99]

I'm really glad you don't make laws.

[@GrandDukeOfNoMansLand]

Yes, it should be 100% illegal!

[@EllieMae99]

You should be illegal.

[@GrandDukeOfNoMansLand]

@@EllieMae99 😅Grow up, will you??

[@Howletttown]

@@GrandDukeOfNoMansLand She's not the one wanting to ban necessary medications for millions of people. You are. Don't want to transition then don't. You grow up.

[@GrandDukeOfNoMansLand]

@@Howletttown And you need to get yourself a 🧠!