Dev Log: Talking to Mod Kieren & Mod Elena about Old School Runescape

[@CraftyChicken91]

The mobile version of Oldschool is a crowning achievement these people should be proud of. in a market saturated with shovel ware and non functioning apps, they release a pristine program that feels just like loading up a client on desktop.

[@kingofracism]

And the great thing is, they are adding plugins! They did an amazing job on the mobile client

[@CarburetorThompson]

The mobile app is what got me playing osrs, I’m glad they still regularly do ui updates for mobile.

[@TylerMcVeigh1]

The mobile app is shocking good, especially with the QoL updates making the game more in line with the RL experience. It's not as good as desktop, but I'd argue it's the best mobile game on the market.

[@neattricks7678]

most play on mobile now. they knew.

[@mercster]

Absolutely, the mobile client for Android they came up with (I don't have iOS but I assume it's generally the same) is really good. The small changes they made to the UI to make it both functional and work on the smaller screens.

[@lauramichaelwilliams5959]

When I worked at Jagex, I worked alot with Kieran helping him build out his team and he is one the nicest guys I have worked with. I also recruited Elena into OS so happy to see her smash it! 👊

[@NachozMan]

Josh asks his questions in such a well spoken manner and then immediately repeats them reworded when they don't answer it satisfactory, absolute gigachad, love this man.

[@metrofloof1214]

You can definitely tell he was a teacher

[@JutNerzo]

The meme, that you will never stop playing runescape - just taking large breaks is 100% accurate

[@ll_daxes_ll1074]

Jo, was machst du denn hier hallo XD

[@kamov52510]

@@ll_daxes_ll1074 hör auf ihn zu belästigen!!

[@ll_daxes_ll1074]

@@kamov52510 XD

[@Old_Shakes]

Yep

[@grimmow187]

its not. i quit 10 years ago and never touched it since

[@BiioHazzrd.]

Would LOVE to hear you talk to the small team that keeps Guild Wars 1 together

[@Blisterdude123]

That would be pretty awesome, I can imagine there being so much history to talk about.

[@Nomaran]

That would be great, I still log in time to time so it would be really interesting to hear from that team.

[@sean121111]

That would seriously be amazing. This needs to happen. Ive been playing a pre-sundering character alot recently

[@miguelfaria5017]

Same

[@toastedt140]

I could be wrong but I think they said in an AMA that they don't have dedicated Guild wars 1 jobs anymore. The people who still work on it do it out of passion on their free time in addition to their guild wars 2 related responsibilities. Also very few of this people are left at the company.

[@AnimatronicBadgerlord]

Me: I have a couple hours, I should watch a nice movie KZbin: Did you know Josh Strife Hayes has a new 2 hour video out? Me: I have a couple hours, I should watch a nice video

[@St4ck48]

What an incredible interview. Concise, informative, and articulate. Asking difficult questions and getting real responses to questions we the players really care about. Bravo bruv jaja

[@Monarth]

Although I don't play Runescape (I used to 18 years ago), this was still a lovely background noise to listen to. My interest has been slightly higher, as I started watching Settled's Tileman series in the spring and later the entirety of Swampletics. I hope the Dev Log series keeps going. I'd enjoy a review with Rebecca Ford from Warframe/Digital Extremes. Given that she recently rose to a lead developer role, I'm curious to see what she has to say regarding Warframe's future. Warframe has been lately more invested in KZbin, as they've sponsored some videos before major updates (ie. Game Theory and Death Battle), I'd give it a decent chance they'd be interested. Having been a community manager, Rebb's no stranger to streaming or interviews either.

[@Relentzxd]

I think your questions are so good and multi-faceted that Elena was a bit taken aback and maybe didn't give an answer she could have really thought about beforehand. I imagine it's one you watch back and think 'I wish I'd said that'. Your questions are really well thought out and it definitely shows. Kieran really shows his experience and knowledge in this interview and he has defo maxed his speech. Not a criticism, as I love the questions, just an observation. Props to both these guys for answering some tough ones.

[@brewergamer]

50:00 Invention was one of those systems introduced to RS3 that allowed players to effectively "scrap" items that were oversaturating the market and it worked really well as an item sink. I'd like to see a new skill in OSRS that "scraps" oversaturated items for a new resource. Invention was very open ended as well, you can scrap just about anything you want.. so what players end up doing is seeking out those items that have become very cheap and buying mass quantities of them.. driving the value back up to a more reasonable level.

[@TipsyFGC]

High alchemy scraps items but what you can ha for profit is limited

[@WillKrause21]

I think a Sailing, as has been brought up basically as a running meme, could be awesome for this. Throw in a lot of low useful, or even some rare objects, for new skill xp, and maybe a smaller number of other unique items.

[@SpidermanGodzillaPants]

I really appreciate Josh always asking good questions, paying attention, and being just a constant gentleman. Mad respect to this guy.

[@nxtlvlnoah]

Thanks for making Videos about Runescape (and Oldschool Runescape) People like you bring new people to the game that it really needs since most players only play it because they knew about it from their childhood.

[@sirrox8080]

Old school is Guna be popular forever man

[@RealKajiggers]

Absolutely love this. I love hearing the devs talk in depth about what they do and how they think about the game, they usually dont get enough time on the Q&As to get everything out, so these kind of things are great. Hope you do more of these with more oldschool devs.

[@morphice18]

Never played much runescape and most likely never will, despite that I listened all the way through with big interest. I feel like you rarely ever used runescape specific terms so even I could understand what you were talking about and both Kieren and Elena seemed like really great and knowledgeable people!

[@MrAsystole]

I started RS on the classic 2D version and stopped playing around when corporal beast was released , this game will always hold a special place in my heart

[@flawless7019]

Give it another shot! All free to play quests is a good goal

[@Justin0zzz]

You are just taking a long break. See you around Gielenor soon

[@ACabanadoKonrado]

@@Justin0zzz I just recenttly realised how true this is. I haven't played since OSRS was just RS... and recently came back because of Josh. I stopped again to play FFXIV with friends, but looks like Josh might be summoning me again.

[@GummiHuhn13]

Kieran explaining the way, the system is "buying out" Items with the Tax money it receives, to decrease the inflation of items, showed me how smart these guys are! Big props to the osrs team. This video gave me motivation for osrs's future :)

[@travellingslim]

Josh Strife Hayes doing KZbin and Twitch has been such a blessing spawned from the pandemic. He has so many skills that work so well to bring us great and varied content. Just in this interview alone, he asked thought-provoking questions, avoided "gotcha" questions, kept the conversation moving and interesting, and really drew out open ended and insightful responses that we normally wouldn't see in a dev interview. Not to mention all of the other types of content he produces. Protect this man at all costs. If you haven't already, go watch all of his other content.

[@notsogoodreddituser7464]

As a long time OSRS player, ill admit, I wasn’t sure about Mod Kieran when he first joined the osrs team. But I’m so impressed with how he has matured in his role. He seems like such a solid representative of the team and I think he’s a very solid dev who genuinely loves and cares for the game

[@JamesBond-ux1it]

+1

[@drdoofenshmirtz474]

hes always loved the game, he was making youtube content around OSRS for years beforw joining the team and that passion followed him onto the team

[@mercster]

Doesn't really make any sense to be cautious about a programmer going from one project to another. That's like being worried that someone who worked on Microsoft Excel might start turning Microsoft Flight Simulator into a spreadsheet if they're re-assigned to a different project. This is how professional programmers work: different projects have different scopes, requirements, and standards.

[@Reruro]

God I'm so stoked to watch this, awesome interview!

[@116yony]

I would love to see Josh do the same with RS3 devs.

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

Already on it

[@116yony]

@@JoshStrifeHayes Btw thank you for the content you create.

[@Archy__]

@@JoshStrifeHayes This is exciting news, because your passion for MMOs more generally, in addition to a clear appreciation of RuneScape’s contributions to the genre should make for an interesting conversation. Your videos always demonstrate a level of authentic commentary and thorough research about the topic at hand. The recent Let’s Chat series on the RuneScape main channel might help you avoid asking questions that would receive a terse rehearsed answer. If you are considering the golden interview subjects, I would point you in the direction of Mod Ramen, Shogun, Raven, Jack, and Timbo. On a completely separate note, if you ever want to explore perspectives on MMO community management in RS3 you can get the current view from Hooli and the “grievances” so to speak from former Mod Lee and Mod Shauny, both of whom, for the purpose of these kind of long form discussions, have incredible personalities.

[@w83official]

@@Archy__ mod timbooooooo destoryer of tree's, should make a fun question: Timbo, with your long experience at jagex, have you destroyed any more tree's the last few years?

[@srsethalot1973]

@@JoshStrifeHayes not sure if you will see this message but I'm curious if that video is still in the works.of if it has been scrapped, I would be curious how they approach similar questions to what you asked here

[@sbz666_]

I've heard a lot of Kieren speaking about OSRS but not much from Elena. Really liked the answers she had, glad to know someone like her is on the design team.

[@lm-Wilhelm]

Three true professionals talking articulately about the game I love. Thank you for your time all of you.

[@darius_defiant]

You are such a good interviewer Josh, no cap. Very calm, well spoken, well planned out. Asking hard questions but in an easy and comfortable fashion. I really really enjoy watching these kind of videos from you

[@toxxikat4771]

I don't really know if u could swing it but Yoshi P. The man does the work of 3 positions within Square Enix and still finds the time to crank out high quality Dragon Quest games, hosting conventions, and doing 8-12 hour live stream q&a for fans between patch cycles. In 2 weeks he is practically putting Animal Crossing into FFXIV for fun. He is also plays the hell out of his own game and caught some criticism for overtuning Black Mage in PVP because its his main and gets death threats from the JP community.

[@goodjpngoblin]

this would be incredibly interesting but i think the language barrier would make it really difficult

[@JurasJankauskas]

Loved this interview. I think it's refreshing having game devs honestly talk about their design process and problems they deal with, instead of being stuck with some sort of neutral, pre-formatted corporate response that we're so used to these days. Gives me a lot of confidence when I think about the future of video games and where things are headed when a lot of what you see online is blatant doomerism. As a side note, if possible, I'd love to see interview with some of the older industry professionals, people who worked on some of the older games that are now considered classics.

[@lebaneseedgyist5073]

they talked around every single question with vague "community communication" drivel lol

[@Lumborn]

The more Q&A's and video's like this I watch, the more I realize how blessed we are with the Jmods. Thank you Josh for this Dev Log and thank you Elena and Kieren (and all the other mods) for allowing me to fulfill my childhood dream of achieving a mining cape. Absolutely amazing content as always Josh!

[@Ezz0Clan]

I will say, even tho Kieren has been in the team for a while, it is interesting to hear him and Elena talk as a player who's been there almost from the beginning... It kind of shows the pressure and the mind space they've been made to work in whiles creating content for us... And while I think it's great that they know the history, I feel kind of like the block in the middle constricting them in some way as well. As a player I'm of course demanding to keep the game how I remember and want things "my way" but also bored because I've played the game for so long that everything feels done so... Wanting new content must be tough to an extent due to how demanding we as players have been. There are ways to improve things, like limiting the hopping in certain areas like wilderness to sold problems like clan piling etc. but there has been also changes that I have disliked, like the option to disable the ability to attack players in wilderness, mind you I'm PvE'r. There's still lot to learn and I would hope lot more to come in the future.

[@DisfiguredGaming]

Josh, I commend you for bringing Rendi up in the conversation! Honestly a fantastic interview mate, massive props to you and your team if you have one!

[@Lyfe]

Fantastic interview. Thanks for doing this!

[@kyoukajiro]

Really great. I really hope you can look into getting more mods on here eventually, everyone has their own insight into the game. I'd really encourage you to get in contact with people like Mod Ash for some legacy insight, Husky for mechanical, and Ed for story telling. The quest system is so unique to OSRS so I think it deserves a spotlight of its own with Ed there.

[@flawless7019]

100% agree. The mods are so diverse. We've only touched the tip of the iceberg

[@franklinnartz1381]

Although no longer a mod, Mat K would be great too.

[@HotLeafJuicer]

Truly among the top MMORPGs

[@everettgilchrist5937]

gosh it took me a while to get through it, but I've made breakfast, had my caffeine and finished an absolutely charming interview between someone who is passionate about the game and people who are passionate about developing it. I hope Robin Henkys and Sandbox Interactive will answer your message and talk about Albion Online! Cheers

[@zerne1000]

Amazing video Josh

[@joeyh31]

Amazing interview Josh. Really well done.

[@kelpfish1001]

I've recently began watching your devlogs and have been really enjoying them your way of interviewing asking hard hitting questions while not enclosing the interviewee in a tight space and making it awkward to get answers aswell as dealing with any empty spaces by controlling the interview well has really been a nice difference from typical developer interviews

[@thire2434]

I really enjoy your interview style videos Josh! The way you interview is very engaging and makes the people you interview open up in a way that I don't see with them in other interviews. I think in comparison to other interviewers, you keep it professional and avoid getting too excited to the point of fanboy. Thinking back to your video over a year ago about the Ashes of Creation hype train, there have been a ton of interviews with the creatative director of Intrepid Studios, Steven Sharif. However genuine Steven comes off in the interview, it seems that the interviewers don't really pressure him with difficult questions about real concerns such as: the player concequences based on other player's actions. Given his response in a comment to that video that you pinned, would you be interested in having him for an interview once sufficient in-game content has been released?

[@addisonfausset9201]

I'm trying so hard not to board the hype train for that game

[@JJJBunney001]

@@addisonfausset9201 don't board any hype trains, just follow projects until they show tangible results then see if it looks exciting

[@MilesMetal]

Oof, you really didn't pull any punches and it's great! When you asked about the Squeal of Fortune and used the word 'gambling' even I began to feel nervous on behalf of your guests. A very, very sensitive topic for Jagex! I think you handled it very well as the host not to put them in too much of awkward of a spot. The question was worded very intelligently.

[@Blisterdude123]

What I like is that Josh does manage to strike a balance with asking what are pretty fair, but perhaps tough, questions, without ever really diving into being combative, or deliberately confrontational. And I think that's what encourages people to try to answer those questions, where they might usually deflect more. He's not, like, 'hostile'.

[@steeveewuzzheer1992]

For their question about “what do you do about content where players optimize the fun out”, they could’ve responded with how challenge mode raids are; you have to do ALL the content to get better rewards and different rewards.

[@timogul]

Thank you Elena and Kieren for discussing the game's development. I really think, especially on community driven games, that developer interaction is one of the keys to a healthy community. So long as people understand _why_ the sausage gets made, they better understand when something might scare or confuse them.

[@Toniodomino95]

Literally watching you tell your friends in the background footage that this will make great second monitor content, as I am watching this video on my second monitor while playing osrs. It really is wonderful second monitor content.

[@comrade_raptor]

what did we do to deserve Josh, fellas? The MMORPG community loves and thanks you man!

[@bqt5956]

i started 1 month ago with osrs, never played before and always thought its not worth my time. so far i have 15 days of playtime and really got the feeling of a good old game. swampathletics inspired me.

[@YewJackOSRS]

Woah, this came as a surprise to my feed. Thanks for having this conversation everyone! Appreciate the in-depth questions and well thought out responses.

[@dress4lesss814]

OMG im so excited you did this! Pumped to watch!

[@michaelmccoy2384]

Loved the video! Seeing creaters go into depth on how they create systems is amazing. Please do a video on warframe.

[@heathaltom8601]

Thank you to the two devs who took the time to talk to Josh. Your time is invaluable and you spared us two hours to have a friendly chat.

[@Neym]

Absolute stellar interview Josh.

[@mynameissal7205]

So happy they mentioned smithing being broken, Glad that's on their radar.

[@joshuaxiong8377]

YES, buffing smithing and stamina system would be wonderful. Rune is so overrated and zero stamina gives nothing to the game.

[@alloounou6900]

Great work on this one. Standing by and waiting for them to fully answer the question and keeping them as the focus is exactly how it should be done.

[@trevorhummel9933]

Outstanding video Josh! I'm sure others have said it already but you are an excellent interviewer. The questions you ask really get Kieren & Elena talking and I really enjoyed hearing what they had to say. Fantastic content. Keep up the great work! 🙂

[@leancamo800]

43:50 I've been playing Runescape since '08. I've been a F2P all this years, until 2020 when I bought my first bond (RS3). I had that feeling of: "wow... where do I start?" And I loved it. And then GIM came out and I, once again, had that same feeling. I felt it more when I discovered Zeah. I ABSOLUTLY loved/love Zeah. There's some much to do there. You can even lock an account there and you'll be able to max.(giving that you only go "on trips" outside the island for your slayer lvls). Now I'm mainly playing on my GIM, only playing RS3 for quick gp for bonds. Even being a veteran could not have preapared me enough to face that vast amount of content that Zeah, Fossil Island, and all the new content they've been adding throughtout the year. I can 100% say that I'm enjoying playing osrs as much as I did as a kid. Thank you osrs team

[@FROGLIKE]

You asked a lot of tough questions and they were very open and honest. This made for great second monitor content.

[@BobbyJenko]

Haven’t played OSRS in a while but this video grabbed my attention. Good stuff Josh, thanks!

[@dankel317]

please do more of these dev talks! your questions were super interesting :)

[@LukeStrife]

Another excellent interview Josh, I am absolutely loving this new series!

[@epeedor4087]

Josh this was such a fantastic video! Huge thanks to both the mods for agreeing to do this. Would loooove to see anymore of these two in any capacity on the channel

[@WillKrause21]

One of my earliest memories of knowing about a game and community was knowing about Zezima from just word of mouth of other RS players, for being #1 on the leaderboards for such a long time. I love, absolutely love, that the developers embrace the word of mouth, achievement, and weird challenges, and even if that isn't the main design, it's part of the idea.

[@thorakvideos2495]

This was awesome to listen to! About the Evolution of Combat, one thing I never hear is (like it was my case) bad computer and internet connection. Most of RS was soo simple that a potato could run the game & lag wasn't really an issue. But when EOC came out, it made it very clear that with every ability I would click that I was experiencing heavy latency issues. This made the game unplayable for me. Also, if Jagex is reading through these; fix the RS3 client! It uses an incredible amount of power because it's soo poorly optimised. This has been the case for years now & nothing has been said about it even though people complain all the time...

[@GkSanchez]

Talking to Space mom from Warframe on how she feels about the promotion and what her vision is for the future of warframe would be super cool to hear. As well as talking to Steve and the lead devs of Soulframe regarding their development philosophies and what they are looking to accomplish with their new game.

[@arthurdowney2846]

In 2007-2008 I was 11 and addicted to RS. I would walk a mile to the library, play 30 minutes, then take a bus to another library in the city over to play another 30 minutes. I did this almost daily that summer.

[@MicahTheZombie]

Why did you have to go to another library? Did they kick you off after 30 minutes?

[@jjrt3348]

@@MicahTheZombie nah he just likes to walk

[@0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0]

Loved the mix of harsh questions and deep discussion. Looking forward to the RS3 dev log!

[@tacotacotington3638]

Really enjoyed this type of video to get into depth of how MMO’s are worked on behind the scenes

[@benpielstick]

This is turning out to be a great series. Nice work Kieren and Elena!

[@Philature]

What a fucking masterpiece of a video. Your questions are awesome too!

[@HorrorshowEU]

Josh, we all love your RS content whatever it may be. Please don't stop making Runescape content, because your passion for the game shines through

[@o0b.a.d.fluppy0o39]

can't quiet point it out but your way to question and handling of the answers has something very prof. to it and makes these interviews a joy to listen to. cheers✌

[@-Seasons-]

One thing i've liked a lot about with OSRS in the last few years years was players gaining a sense of customizability. (within reason) I think giving the players the ability to make their own QOL stuff and make the game more overall enjoyable without waiting/hoping for devs, really helps with longevity and popularity. Minecraft for example, would have been dead in the water after a few months if it weren't for the amazing modding community it had at the start and gained over the years. Jagex also having their weekly QnA streams, and just interacting with the community more has helped people know that the team we have are people who genuinely want the game to be good. Sometimes they drop the ball, and they drop it hard (some of their most recent poll tests and 'integrity' changes), but you know they're not aiming to make the game worse. Heres to hoping the community grows and for more good years to come. Thanks for the video!

[@bellystraw]

I seriously would love for you to get in contact with the Dragonfable Devs. They're a tiny team but they consistently put out great story content and manage to bring out more and more depth to such an old flash engine. They're honestly wizards

[@alessandragonzales8190]

He's talked about Adam Bohn (aka Artix, as in Artix Entertainment) before too. I'd love to see that interview.

[@haydenmaines5905]

Huh, I never thought of OSRS being like a Netflix subscription model - I really like that metaphor

[@juzado]

You should release this as a podcast on spotify or something

[@naota3k]

Josh you are a fantastic interviewer.

[@Nootlest]

Amazing interview thank you

[@silverwing7279]

Would love to see a Dev Log with GW2 devs from ArenaNet. The game is at a turning point right now with Steam release, New player experience overhaul, Season1 re-release, WvW restructuring and all that. Thanks for your great content Josh!

[@OnlyTrails]

This was a fantastic listen on the second monitor

[@Erveon]

Great video! I love how good you are at interviewing people.

[@Zukure]

These interviews are so interesting please continue them

[@xBezerkerrr]

game is in a really good spot right now other than PvP raids 3 looks pretty hype

[@blossomlotus2019]

I am not sure if they can fix PvP either that's the issue. Powercreep is inevitable and other than increasing the HP cap to 120 I don't see how they would otherwise be able to like battle it

[@Easy369-wcb]

I've never played Runescape but I watched this entire 2 hour video, fascinating!

[@Nomaran]

Thanks for this Josh, as an avid OSRS player and fan it's great to get a peek into Jagex and some of their employees throught processes. Looking forward to more great content, and hopefully more quests for the forseeable future!

[@zanreed]

I think what I liked most about the questions is they were challenging but not outright hostile. Sometimes I felt like the questions were hard to answer but they never felt like you were attacking the people that had the willingness to come on your show and have a genuine conversation.

[@Neomagam]

I love these Dev Logs. I haven't seen or played RS in ~15 years, but I enjoyed hearing what the developers think about all these subjects. Personally, I'd love for you to interview some WoW devs with Dragonflight coming soon, but I don't think they'd give you more than 30 mins let alone 2 hours.

[@alyssavanderklift9296]

tbf, in regards to ironman equivalents, you even see variants of it in fallout 76, even i'm playing one of those, a 'wandering plumber' character, no use of stash and c.a.m.p. (aside from utterly mandatory for quests), only using pipe weapons and a pipe wrench, no fast travel etc, and even in fallout 76 it REALLY lets you appreciate other parts of the game so much more. i think that is why those sorts of things starting in osrs really do manage to easily break out, because it allows you to regain a new appreciation for other games

[@kobalt8845]

kieren is a super smart dude with a lot of interesting insight. appreciate the interview!

[@swasloids]

the tileman series is what got me into the game. i never played it before and i got mega hooked

[@malkarththebear]

If they do go forward eventually with adding a completionist cape, I sincerely hope they also add the ability to custom color it somehow. That'd be nice.

[@wouterdevries6859]

thnx for this content, great questions. its nice to hear from the mods how they think of this great game. :)

[@darthfakington2227]

Josh this was great, I wish you could get some time to ask Ion questions about WoW.

[@kyrooo12]

Please do ALBION ONLINE dev talk. I quitted the game 1 years ago because of its lack of solo contact. But that game is probably the most true MMO, everything that a player do has a direct or indirect impact on the game Also would like to see RIOT MMO dev talk if that's possible

[@Bellicosy]

Many thanks for putting this together

[@robertmosley1188]

Wow, really great vid & discussion!

[@restinginn9906]

OSRS/RS3 is the pinnacle of questing in MMORPGs, and perhaps gaming in general.

[@Kinsata]

Excellent video and questions.

[@cjj4591]

Honestly never more pissed thn when main account with countless hours got carried over to rs3. Quit for YEARS tll i found out thy brought back oldschool. Love to see the growing support and adding new featuress to.the game to keep us i gaged. Really hope to see that continuw to grow!

[@LostTravelerStudios]

Bro I lost my acc the same way with 5 99s, I was so upset

[@mcdonaldmatthew41]

did anyone else leave to find the snail man mode video and then came back to finish?

[@thomasmilligan3502]

15:00 A F2P raid would be a good pull for the game and a way to introduce players to that kinda content. Dunno how much appeal there would be though. Loving the interview

[@bqt5956]

@string name; the midgame raids just have to drop stuff to skill like the minigames

[@Skenjin]

I may have lost interest in Runescape more than a decade ago, but you have to give them credit for keeping the game alive and well.

[@llwonder]

I really wish Josh didn't give up on GIM so fast. I'm having a blast playing GIM because of him.

[@deathpyre42]

In a way, the poll system really did mitigate the issues of the rev caves. Bis pvm&pvp ranged gear was polled as a rev unique but failed the poll. Looking back at that whole mess with mod jed (incidentally, this is why you never let pkers act as design leads for pvpvm content without a real game designer on hand to override them as necessary) the sole saving grace for the revs was that it was just raw GP and not a crucial item.

[@J1mmy]

heard 'By Release' while watchin and felt like i finally made it to the big leagues

[@theAaroneer]

Phenomenal video, I always love hearing the insights these developers have into the great questions you ask, Josh. I always wonder about what goes on behind a developer's thought process in games like Guild Wars, or Adventure Quest. It would be really cool to hear some things from Artix Entertainment, although that sounds like a hard interview to get.