Great coverage on this whole issue. Knew you'd give us a good rundown, keep up the great work.
@Anitajohnson69 Жыл бұрын
Big L for Jansen ooooof.
@meihao2002 Жыл бұрын
She is really annoying in most game, she plays as a pro, but she is not professional at all.
@mccgunter Жыл бұрын
I will never watch a game with her in it unless I’m interested in her opponent. No class.
@krazieecko Жыл бұрын
Let's get those apologies from both Jansen and Jones
@braddaddis371 Жыл бұрын
It’s all good if she apologizes. If not, then I’ll lose some respect. Because she didn’t “think” it was delaminated. She acted as she KNEW it was
@ApostolAdventures Жыл бұрын
Jansen’s “L” yielded to the PPA taking action by testing paddles. someone had to start the fire.
@PickleballWill Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the news bro 🙏
@imuahayn8082 Жыл бұрын
Rules need to change, not fair to players if their paddle fails during the match, testing should only be allowed before the match
@TechSalesTom Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, this “likely to fail” statement is ridiculous. If paddles “failing” during a match is a real concern, paddle certification needs to include a delaminating durability stress test covering a tournament length, and then have players use a new one for major events.
@kento1957 Жыл бұрын
So Sarah was told that the paddle would likely fail, but she chose to continue to play. No one to blame but herself.
@TechSalesTom Жыл бұрын
She was told it’s “likely to fail”? 😂 What are we doing now, predictive analytics for point of failure? It’s either legal or not. Whoever told her that needs to stay their lane and avoid input that only an engineer with precise equipment and models could determine, and even then it’s not part of the rules. It’s incredibly distracting to have to change paddles in the middle of a match or tournament. Either everyone is required to use a fresh paddle each day or let it be and stop obsessing over paddles “potential” to “fail”
@kento1957 Жыл бұрын
@@TechSalesTom Whoever tested did predict it would fail, and warned her. And they were right. So it was a reasonable heads up that she chose to ignore, to her own detriment.
@TechSalesTom Жыл бұрын
@@kento1957 Ah mixed up Salome and Sarah, was Salome told her paddle was likely to fail too?
@kento1957 Жыл бұрын
@@TechSalesTom Not that I know of.
@Troutsies Жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome. I hope your channel gets the recognition it deserves as the sport continues to draw new fans.
@shipwreck8847 Жыл бұрын
What an idiotic system the pickleball authorities have. So you can claim someone cheated and based on your claim they get defaulted the next match and then it comes back there was nothing wrong and that person still loses just based on your claim? How is that an ongoing system and who came up with that knowing how stupid that is. Does that happen in tennis? Imagine if someone accused you of something and based on that it reflected on your next match? They should do before tests or just legalize these paddles and tell players they should adapt to new technologies. In tennis they introduced poly strings, those weren't banned. Or they should move the kitchen back a foot so people aren't hovering over the kitchenline slap ready. There's so many things they can do to improve the rules. I still think it's outrageous your opponent gets to call your balls in or out and that's just how it is.
@ApostolAdventures Жыл бұрын
by what I read, Devidze’s paddle was delaminated however delaminated within the arbitrarily PPA limit. with that said Jansen wasn’t wrong when she accused the paddle to be delaminated because she never stated how much or the degree of delam.
@sarahlynch4777 Жыл бұрын
Lea let’s her disdain for devidze get in the way of competing with her. She implodes against her
@JSZstudios Жыл бұрын
Lea is a much better player when she stays out of her own way and plays on her side of the net Competing and not Complaining! Lea has some serious skills. I hope she finds the inner peace to be able to showcase those skills. Apologizing to Salome would be a perfect start…
@krazieecko Жыл бұрын
She's only gotten worse and now she thinks she's justified to be in her villain era so that's the bed she wants to lie in
@JoolaJen Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very objective and informative episode!
@voiceofreason9238 Жыл бұрын
I am beginning to doubt the validity of the "standards." Are these arbitrary? You simply can't have that many paddles passing a pre-match test and then failing the very next round. The testing methords themselves must also undergo scrutiny for the same reasons.
@JSZstudios Жыл бұрын
Well said! Still HUGE problems with their methods and procedures…. AND taking to twitter with their semi bogus conclusions was either juvenile or just plan ignorant. …just like what Ben did!
@Mr.DJones Жыл бұрын
@@JSZstudios Welcome to the PPA.
@Mr.DJones Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and posting. Lea Jansen has become quite a loser. Ansboury had a choice, she chose wrong. All paddles should be tested before and after important matches.
@bwven7959 Жыл бұрын
Damn, video of Ben and Colin getting knocked out literally just got copyright taken down while I was watching lol. Does the PPA not allow for re-broadcasting of their games?
@Bikeman19 Жыл бұрын
I just checked the video is still online
@nd0202 Жыл бұрын
Is there any explanation for why Salome’s paddle sounded so obviously delaminated? I’m sure she’s not just lying about the results, but you have to wonder how arbitrary these ranges are for acceptable paddles. Or maybe the sound of a paddle really doesn’t mean that much?
@wolf-xf6hf Жыл бұрын
The only real solution at this point is for the players to come to an agreement to challenge every paddle after every match to force the ppa to do something. This takes the onus off of the players because it’s everyone is universally doing it there should be no drama directed at players having to challenge their opponents paddles as that will be common practice
@st46mx Жыл бұрын
So you can accuse your opponent of cheating and when proven wrong nothing happens to you? WTF
@seankuusinen3499 Жыл бұрын
One match! That’s wild, good on them for taking it well
@scorpiod2235 Жыл бұрын
Jansen lets her emotions get the better of her. An eleven ounce Vatic will hit like a truck.
@mikelob6707 Жыл бұрын
Good video brother
@sweetnsavory6204 Жыл бұрын
If it is legal going into the match then it should stand. Otherwise you need to check the paddles after EVERY game played...this paddle crap is getting ridiculous! All this started with the new tennis peeps coming into the game... the original pros were exactly that - professional!
@plannedtuna8293 Жыл бұрын
The “original pros” also have tennis backgrounds for the most part. I agree that this paddle stuff is crazy but no need to blame tennis.
@sweetnsavory6204 Жыл бұрын
Hence I said new tennis peeps...not disparaging tennis.
@HD101PRODUCTIONS Жыл бұрын
There was no challenge at the US Open. The player who challenge another player paddle, should be penalized if it comes back negative.
@kimleith1378 Жыл бұрын
No challenges because if you are wrong it's a year suspension I heard.???
@HD101PRODUCTIONS Жыл бұрын
@@kimleith1378 yes... Just in PPA Pros to let that drama happen and one player cause another player. US Open fixed that, to stop the non sense.
@the_real_deal Жыл бұрын
Lea should definitely apologize for her accusation now.
@americaalways1442 Жыл бұрын
Just learning pickleball coming from tennis. Not understanding why lot of rules were put in. In tennis over the years tennis racquets and strings have become more powerful and there is more and more spin yet we don't have limitations on how fast a person can serve with a particular racquet. Men pros routinely serve at 120+ mph with the fastest over 150 mph now. We don't say OH, we have to put restrictions so the returner can return the ball. OH, players like Nadal and Alcaraz among many others, are putting too much spin on the ball. We have to do something so that isn't so.
@Khaavrenbbb Жыл бұрын
I’m new to pickle ball - coming from tennis world. The paddle specs seem a bit arbitrary? Seems like there is not much room for modification of your paddle like in tennis, where you can use different strings and tensions to increase spin or power? Is this a bad analogy on my part?
@buxxley1274 Жыл бұрын
I know it's a broader issue in the sport...and that Devidze's tendency to make pretty iffy line calls doesn't exactly endear other players to her....but a lot of the matches I've seen where she was getting "called out" for this was her opponents just constantly hitting ball machine shots back to the middle of her court, she smashes it (because why not), and after the opponent does this like 9-10 times in a row and gets exhausted they cry foul on the paddle. Same thing happens in tennis. You can't just stand there and feed balls chest high up the middle of the court to someone who loves to just cannon from the baseline...you're going to get worked. They're a professional racquet sport player...they're not going to miss that shot very often. You don't need a "delaminated" paddle to hit a ball really REALLY hard if you've got full blown tennis forehand form and someone isn't even making you move. The paddle issue seems to also be coupling with the issue of the sport getting a lot more popular. Some of the "old guard" players are starting to get pushed down in the pecking order and are realizing they're not quite as dominant as they thought they were. Most of them are handling it like pros and just work harder than ever to improve. But you always get that small subsection who just start throwing tantrums like they're "owed" winning forever. As the competitive pool gets bigger and bigger...being at the top of the game is going to become harder and harder.
@imuahayn8082 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Need to buy a VaticPro paddle 😊
@CyberSonic157 Жыл бұрын
Wait, so use overtime can make your paddle illegal?
@chongqinghotpot Жыл бұрын
When a player challenges the opponent’s paddle during or after the match, does her own paddle get tested too? Should be so in my opinion.
@TechSalesTom Жыл бұрын
Nope, but not every paddle is subject to this type of failure. I agree that everyone should be subject to the same testing if this will be done. Either test at the start of the match or tournament, or mandate new paddles for each weekend, provided by the manufacturers who should be meeting standards that include durability over an entire tournament weekend at minimum. A challenge of a paddle that tests legal results in a $250 fine for the player who issued the challenge. IMO this is too imbalanced, with a loss being far more severe than an insignificant $250. Raise the fine to $1000 or $2000, or change the failure penalty to requiring a paddle swap and rematch. Most fair would be testing before a match, and simply allowing for a swap out with a failure. We have to assume that athletes are not purposely trying to get an unfair advantage, but the current penalties assume ill intent.
@user9b2 Жыл бұрын
Yup, test all paddles before ever match.
@alessandrogarzelli7039 Жыл бұрын
Sorry...I'm new to this sport and I still don't know all the rules. What's the problem shown in the video?
@jirowang110 Жыл бұрын
Can a paddle really deteriorate to the point of making it illegal after playing matches in the same day?
@Mr.DJones Жыл бұрын
Ansboury was told that her paddles were possibly going to fail if she uses them. She decided to use them.
@jirowang110 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.DJones oh I see. Thank you for the clarification
@syedfawaz8090 Жыл бұрын
Hope Allyce "Might Annoying" Jones and Lea are ready with their apologies 😅 especially Allyce considering she has negative chances of winning a singles game against Salome 😆
@cwarner5909 Жыл бұрын
Big win for Vatic and Devidze, not so much for Gamma especially after the Riley Newman paddle failure.
@nortondefaria Жыл бұрын
Salome was right ...Lea wrong. Salome deserves apologies.
@krazieecko Жыл бұрын
That's just ridiculous if a paddle passes before the match then it's a legal paddle. You don't get points taken away after a game because come to find out the ball was deformed or cracked during play. If the paddle doesn't pass the test after the game then the player should just have to continue the tournament with a new paddle or forfeit if they don't have one.
@ivalani Жыл бұрын
If PPA keep allowing the heavy hitter paddles’ use and not limit the weight and deflection, they are digging the grave of singles pickleball. No one wants to watch players blasting rockets at each other which are simply too fast to react to. I already can’t stand watching singles.
@davecue Жыл бұрын
I thought the challenge meant the challenger would face consequences if wrong?
@plannedtuna8293 Жыл бұрын
Literally who would ever challenge if it worked that way XD
@rmonsipapa Жыл бұрын
Well, Lea now looks like a cry baby, blaming her inability to deal with Salome's ground strokes on what she thought was an illegal paddle... oops, play better Lea and keep the drama to a minimum. That being said, Salome has made a name for her self for making really bad line calls so maybe she brought some of this on her self! The drama continues. Sure would like to know who the paddle manufacturers where with failed paddles and who the players were. More transparency will help keep "some" of them inline!!!
@sandon212 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Salome asked for the line judges
@meihao2002 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I did not watch enough games, I did not see Salome made bad line call. But I did see Lea made bad line calls when she played with Salmoe,. Two times she called out which obviously both were in and they were in after reviewing. One time Salmoe called out which was obviously out. Lea challenged it with very bad attitude, but it was out after reviewing. One time also with Salmoe, she lost a point and she blamed on the audience and she got replay, that was deciduous.
@americanodude Жыл бұрын
@@meihao2002 back when they had first started to battle each other, Salome was definitely the one making the bad line calls. She was absolutely ridiculous with her line calls and I hated watching her play because of it. However, she has gotten so much better about it. I haven't seen her make a bad call in a few tournaments and she seems to have turned a new leaf. Jansen seems to have taken the reverse approach. She has gotten progressively worse at her line calls and acts like a baby the entire time. So that (along with Jansen Stans) are why she is disliked as much as she is.
@jeffcaptain6738 Жыл бұрын
“it’s a binary situation”. What does that mean? What are the two situations?
@Dmocification Жыл бұрын
Not a good look for Pickleball. Manufactures are building these paddles cheap and getting called out
@billkennedy401 Жыл бұрын
I disagree - players are bigger and stronger _ add to that they are adding weight (which FYI, I recently found out voids the paddle warranty of some manufacturers,) and there is simply more stress put on them than they were designed for. Did you notice the weight of Salome's paddle? She had added almost 3 oz of lead - manufacturers can't anticipate that.
@kimleith1378 Жыл бұрын
@@billkennedy401 No weight limit?? When does a paddle become a "club"?
@billkennedy401 Жыл бұрын
@@kimleith1378 Per current Rules? Never - however, technically, if a paddle were built to its maximum size, theoretically you could add so much tape that, if you wanted to measure it close enough, you could exceed the max size allowed. But that would take a perfect storm of events.
@williewasahippie Жыл бұрын
Terrible manufacturing process for these paddles to become unusable from hitting a plastic ball.
@brianbanks3044 Жыл бұрын
how are the paddles that are tested proven to be the ones were used in the game...unless the referee takes the paddle right there on the court, who know what kinds of hocus pocus goes on behind the curtain....all these paddles are going to break down over time and get hotter and players are just going to have to get used to this happening...the same thing happens with our softball bats even though they pass testing at the beginning of the tourney and won't pass at the end.....this is going to be an issue for the next 6 months and more
@JaxxCrash Жыл бұрын
Hey if you can't beat someone fairly just accuse them of having a overpowered paddle
@krazieecko Жыл бұрын
It's not tell-lez it's tay-yaz
@TR1BE2 Жыл бұрын
The paddle she turned in was not delaminated... haha
@plutoniumcore Жыл бұрын
Soon we'll see a 14oz paddle. Stacked lead tape on it lol
@TheMensCurlingChamp Жыл бұрын
This game is so, so stupid.
@steve4427 Жыл бұрын
...says the curling athlete
@Coley2x Жыл бұрын
Damn 11oz, no wonder it hit like that 😂
@kimleith1378 Жыл бұрын
Never understood why there is no weight limit??
@americanodude Жыл бұрын
@@kimleith1378 advantages and disadvantages. Heavier paddle means slower hands and worse control/soft game. As a singles specialist, I can see why she would play with such a heavy paddle. If she wanted to be competitive in doubles, though, she'd need an entirely different paddle to not be a liability.
@VividTape Жыл бұрын
The paddle is actually delaminated, you could hear it sitting in the crowd, it just wasn't deemed to be "outside the legal range." Whatever that means. I think we will see this more and more now, where the top pros will be getting a pass on their paddles. Tyson's was clearly delaminated and we won't hear a peep about it.
@plannedtuna8293 Жыл бұрын
Tyson’s paddle was successfully challenged what do you mean?
@richestmaninbabylon7635 Жыл бұрын
No one knows if Devidze actually turned in that particular paddle in to test for a delaminating paddle. When there are 2 to 3 or more paddles in your bag.
@sandon212 Жыл бұрын
When a paddle is challenged it’s taken away at the net - also I’m told they either sticker or write on them - nothing to worry about Re that issue apparently
@DeesBees85 Жыл бұрын
Fans need to keep their mouths shut during points.
@sandon212 Жыл бұрын
Um no - players need to be focused …
@DeesBees85 Жыл бұрын
@@sandon212 go away troll
@davidallott5826 Жыл бұрын
If there are standards of behavior expected of the players then the same should apply to the fans. Another crossroad for PB to navigate. Be like NFL where pretty much anything goes, be like tennis where you can’t even move during points, or be something in between. But for gods sake, make a decision and enforce it for everyone!
@sandon212 Жыл бұрын
@@davidallott5826 not a bad point sport needs interaction and noise so I think they should allow the fans to make noise - see eg badminton where it happens during points - also more applause after good points
@davidallott5826 Жыл бұрын
@@sandon212 I’m all for crowds getting excited but there’s a line as to what is acceptable and what isn’t. This episode, in my opinion, crossed that line. The thing is, it doesn’t matter what you or I think. These Tours need to decide what their identity is going to be. Need to decide what sort of environment they want at these events. Are they going after drunken frat boys screaming insults or do they want an event where mom and dad can take the kids. You can’t have both… courts too small in PB. Again, just my opinion, but if you want to grow a sport, you look 10 years down the line and engage juniors at the grass roots level.
@thomaswilliams6155 Жыл бұрын
I dont have to ask: are we absolutely sure she gave to right paddle to be tested? Dont be nieve
@sexysurfergal541 Жыл бұрын
ya. I wanna know the process exactly. We know there is a sticker put on the paddle. That's about all I know. So when is it put on? What is on the sticker (unique bar code perhaps?). How do we know that the sticker is not removed and put on another paddle? Can we get more transparency on this process please?
@sandon212 Жыл бұрын
I was told it’s one of those stickers that can’t be removed without it tearing but yes it would be great if there could be transparency for the players never mind the public …
@sandon212 Жыл бұрын
PPA thinks so and I don’t think she’s signed with them so I’d go with believing them … if she was signed maybe not …
@90sshuffle Жыл бұрын
This is why pickleball is a joke...illegal paddles. What a joke sport