Switch 2 Officially Confirmed + More Spec Details Leak

[@pillington1338]

Nice of Nintendo to give us the announcement announcement.

[@__BlacklotuS__]

well everyone is so impatient so they announced it early

[@Coplanersirtax9]

@@__BlacklotuS__ it's more so for investors

[@Luke973T]

​@@Coplanersirtax9exactly. Gamers really think that their feelings can force these investor announcements.

[@__BlacklotuS__]

already told investors at the meeting you think they tell investors via twitter posts?

[@JustS0meK1dd]

I'm happy to receive it, but I would have liked them to give us an announcement for the announcement of the announcement earlier in the year

[@ilbroducciore]

“I’m not sure how you follow up from the Switch and evolve that concept” FOUR SCREENS

[@cyxceven]

But with the power of two point five Switches duct-taped together.

[@richard-davies]

They pretty much nailed it with the Switch design, all it needed was some tweaks for some more comfort when holding it, drastically increase the performance, maintain full backwards compatibility and keep the screen OLED and I bet it will sell really well.

[@baconatorrodriguez4651]

why should they keep the OLED? It'll increase the price unnecessarily. Plus they know people will doubledip with an OLED version. People won't be angry enough to NOT buy a Switch 2 just because it doesn't have an OLED. And enough people will eventually buy a second Switch 2 with OLED. I feel you're using Sony logic of front loading features; that's not how Nintendo rolls.

[@richard-davies]

@@baconatorrodriguez4651 Because an LCD is going to look crap in comparison and it's ridiculous to downgrade something on a brand new console, OLED doesn't really cost that much these days especially in the quantities Nintendo will be buying.

[@dezra]

@@richard-davies You’re both right. They absolutely should keep the OLED, anyone who says it isn’t a big difference clearly has majorly defective eyeballs. But I also think it’s more likely they’ll launch the switch successor with a crappy LED and save the OLED for a refresh to move more units. People are so desperate for a refresh they’ll buy anything and Nintendo knows it. People seem to forget the original switch didn’t just have a crappy non-OLED screen. It had a PLASTIC screen. In 2017. A decade after the iPhone. That was a crime. We’ll be lucky if we get glass on the first gen switch successor. If it comes with an OLED screen and hits 4K 60Hz docked I’ll be very happily surprised.

[@Daigon95]

@@richard-davies They could go for similar tech as LCD but newer with QLED. Generally cheaper-ish and is competitive with OLED on pros and cons.

[@richard-davies]

@brainwashedburgerworshipper I had the original LCD deck and it used a very poor quality LCD panel and it only did 71% sRGB so loads of colours couldn't even be produced properly, the Switch LCD had a far better panel and that's saying something as that wasn't amazing either.

[@Tbear995]

Switch led to Steamedeck, PS Portal, and all the PC Handhelds. It's a freaking pioneer and I don't expect them to move away from this handheld

[@ChrisAzure]

There's little to no competition, considering that PS Portal is useless without a PS5, it is no competition.

[@Rocksteady72a]

@@ChrisAzure The kneejerk negativity against the Portal whenever it's mentioned is always hilarious to read. Regardless, it very much occupies the same space, and is something holds onto the majority of my handheld hours

[@Rocksteady72a]

It's really interesting that people somehow convinced themselves it was the Deck that did this. The notion of having a full console rather than a Lite version of games as a handheld is something that the Vita originally tried, but the Switch finally achieved & indicated to the industry it's not only viable but heavily demanded.

[@ChrisAzure]

@@Rocksteady72a it's not negativity, reality is that it's a niche product that it's useless without a home console. That's a fact, for that reason it doesn't have a place when the conversation is about portable consoles as it doesn't do anything by itself. If it's useful for you then good, It might be useful for me on some situations, but that doesn't change the fact that PS Portal is an accessory, not a console.

[@Rocksteady72a]

@@ChrisAzure OP is talking about handhelds. Many use their Decks as "accessories" to their PC. The distinction is meaningless, especially in the context of what he's talking about

[@hggfhh4449]

Rumor: The nintendo Switch Successor will be graphically more capable than the Super nintendo. I don't know how reliable that source is, but I am mostly confident it is true.

[@schmuwu]

My dad works for Nintendo, and he told me, it will at least have N64 graphics.

[@ahoyforsenchou7288]

More capable and half as fun confirmed.

[@cyxceven]

I will not stand for this N64 slander. I mean it! I am walking to the courthouse as we speak! I'm gonna do it!

[@chimuoma390]

3DS,DS,GBA,SwanCrystal ARE SUPERIOR!!!!!!!

[@tpolarbeart]

It will be called the super switch

[@FauzanARB]

Having OLED screen upfront would help migrate more audience from non-oled switch to Switch 2. It makes it even clearer of an upgrade.

[@cube2fox]

And it would make it more likely that many Switch 2 games would support HDR.

[@hunainkhan1058]

The thumbnail 😂😂

[@bluphoenix6412]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@prototype_-]

Rich looking like a absolute psychopath

[@TheDarkDragon.]

😂😂😂

[@Mr.Chimpazee]

😂😂😂😂

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

Can’t wait to replay all my Switch games at 60fps

[@mikedergalev]

Astral Chain #1

Don’t know man. Nintendo loves to sell old games at modern prices.

[@Green_Stache_Productions]

That's only if Devs go back and update their games to be optimimized for the new hardware

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

I hope they didn’t kill the Original Switch cartridge support. If that’s the case I’ll keep my OLED then grab a PS5 Pro at launch which I know will read the disc straight away.

[@chrisbrown113096]

You mean you can’t wait to repurchase all your old switch games to play it at 60fps ? Lol

[@josephscottlawrence]

The Switch launch is what got me back into gaming. Excited for the next era!

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

The Switch is what got me interested in what passes for modern gaming these days.

[@arofhoof]

same

[@pinoyreformat]

I have a hectic sked yet I can still game coz of the Switch

[@secondchance6603]

@@Adamtendo_player_1 Yeah Nintendo are such a failure as a gaming company they sell millions of consoles and games and other gaming companies try to copy them.

[@regularguy3879]

​@@secondchance6603well, a lot of 3rd party switch games run like garbage so he is not wrong

[@st0rmchild]

I can't wait for people who don't know what "financial year" means to be mad when the Switch 2 isn't announced until early 2025.

[@mightyhadi6132]

I hope for backwards compatibility news

[@Buddies_official46]

already confirmed, my uncle works there

[@Mr_M_]

@@Buddies_official46 Can confirm I am their uncle

[@Tin_Le]

@@Buddies_official46 lmao that one uncle with millions of nephews & nieces 😆

[@Mr.Chimpazee]

@@Buddies_official46 Same….my great grandpa works there too

[@TheSterlingArcher16]

It’s probably gonna be conservative support. Switch games sandboxed to run with identical visuals & performance. Will need to buy the next gen version to get benefits of improved hardware.

[@cpaek72]

Alex is right. There will be a gimmick, unless it's like the nes to the snes and not ds to 3ds or wii to wii u.

[@ahoyforsenchou7288]

>like NES to SNES Don't tempt me, Frodo! If they released a proper console again then it'd be the first one I've purchased since Gamecube. But that's not gonna happen.

[@seraph4581]

@@ahoyforsenchou7288 What do you even mean with proper console? Switch is a proper console

[@aaronwalsh8469]

I don’t think so. The current ceo seems to be more conservative and cautious.

[@BleakVision]

Hopefully an optional add on screen for DS emulation!

[@idakev]

​​@@seraph4581 He means pure core gaming consoles with up to date tech that can play more technically challenging games like the N64 and GameCube were. The Wii was a big change in direction where marketable gimmicks were prioritised. The Switch is just the first one where the gimmick is genuinely useful and worthwhile.

[@corywashburn]

Missed opportunity if they don't call it the Super Switch. I just hope they're updating old games to be 60 FPS.

[@james-vc4zj]

100% couldn’t agree more

[@LucasDarkGiygas]

After the Wii U i think Nintendo has in their best interest to make sure people don't mistake the Switch Sucessor to another peripheral to the Switch. Using the name Switch might cause tuat.

[@SaucyJack88]

They're going to call it the 'Switch Up', screenshot this and save it for later.

[@ask343]

@@SaucyJack88 Even Switch Attach is more likely than that, especially after hearing about the magnetic Joy-Cons

[@VanTesla]

​@@LucasDarkGiygasCalling it possibly Switch 2 or Super Switch shouldn't cause another Wii U situation. Given one of Nintendo most successful systems was the Super Nintendo, aka SNES, after the NES. Then Switch 2 is more obvious than using an alphabetical letter as how say one of their competitors does that already with Playstation systems. Mind it also matters if the marketing is done right. As Wii U marketing was notoriously bad and in early start created much of the confusion to make many think it was a peripheral add on for the Wii...

[@Ozzianman]

Gimmick? The OS actually having some life to it. All systems from the GameCube to the Wii U including handhelds had their own themes that gave each console their own flare. The Switch went a bit too minimalist. The audio cues are very nice, but I really don't like how flat it is.

[@KDZen]

I wish someone would smile at me like Rich smiles at the Switch 2 Memory Specs Leak

[@IronicSonic83]

Richard thumbnail approves Switch 2 specs

[@xxnike0629xx]

What they need to do is carry over everything that worked with the Switch, make the catridge based games compatible, make all digital purchases compatible, but just improve the hardware to be more capable in terms of having locked 60 fps, 1080p, faster load times, hall effect sensor analog sticks (or user upgradeable analogs), and actual d-pad on the controller. If they can do that then I think existing Switch owners will upgrade and many new gamers will get one and probably Switch games too. If they can also go with a QLED or Mini LED display, drastically more battery life, and more internal storage (maybe even going with NVMe), that'd attract the more 'hardcore' games. It's a given that they should keep that portable-docking aspect.

[@martinaee]

Ugh…. New Nintendo console hype is always the best time in gaming. Big-N is going to deliver ❤

[@ericbekert]

100% brother 100%!!

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

you all got such a big point, the fact that the switch is both portable and console like is what made it so popular, even for those who are not even into gaming at all, and i'm almost certain that both microsoft and sony really needs to step up their game or both steam and nintendo will end up being the only consoles in a near future

[@homebrewGT2]

I think VRR needs to be there to smooth out the framerate on handheld mode

[@cube2fox]

And it should be VRR with LFC. Otherwise the VRR window will be too small for most games. But I think it is more likely that the handheld not just won't have LFC, but no VRR at all.

[@Mrwhosetheboss]

Anyone else just binge this clips channel? 😅

[@raxzaman2565]

Wow what a surprise seeing Arun in a DF comment section, what are the odds of that happening lol

[@ask343]

Yeah I'm the same here, I'm extremely impatient for the next Switch to come out already

[@PAINt0theMAX]

This guy was my boss

[@TheJadeFist]

Does any one want something other than a Switch 2.0? It's a good concept, and can't really be improved on conceptually, at least in no way I can think of. Just give us better hardware and backwards compatibility and I think most people will be happy. And maybe it can play older games at higher performance levels.

[@BAZCHILLIN]

I want a separate home console. Call it the Home Boy for all I care. Make it look nice at 1440p or 4K, same library as the hybrid and done.

[@StillWeRide]

handheld gaming is for kids imo. adults lugging switches around is just cringe

[@BAZCHILLIN]

@@StillWeRide never lose your inner child.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

@@BAZCHILLIN get out of here with home console home console is dead. Nintendo has the right idea with the hybrid get lost to PlayStation or Xbox which are both burning much to my amusement.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

@@StillWeRideF u, Aaron and I have a Nintendo switch and it’s my only system I have because I hate PlayStation and I hate Xbox and hate PC because those systems suck and represent what I hate about modern gaming. Nintendo understands that physical and digital media can coexist Nintendo understands that gameplay the most important thing and the nostalgia factor with Nintendo whose philosophy alliance of mine and also they are the only ones that understand what makes video games fun and represent what I love about video games and are the only good thing about gaming now.

[@Tofuey]

Excited to see old switch games with resolution scaling running on this

[@TwilightWolf032]

That's what I'm looking forward to as well! I haven't got a Switch this generation because my country keeps sinking its economy to the ground like they're aiming for a stupidity championship, but I'm saving up to move to another country and get my Switch 2 there, so i can play all Xenoblade titles with the stronger hardware!

[@ChrisAzure]

That if they don't change something in the cartridge to make you pay $60 per game again.

[@lightthelast5416]

@@TwilightWolf032 Are you brazilian?

[@TheSoxor123]

Buying a new console to play old games. The Nintendo way.

[@TwilightWolf032]

@@lightthelast5416 You nailed it!

[@SpinDlsc]

Considering how long the Switch generation is being stretched to, I almost wonder if Nintendo is just going to go to a 10-year console cycle going forward.

[@KillahMate]

I'm sure they'd love to, but no - 8 years is just the standard length of a console generation now. Both PS5 and Xbox Series will also be 8 years.

[@StillWeRide]

with laughably bad tech...its embarassing. nintendo fans just eat it up

[@iudexe3103]

I'm sure as hell there will be no more console in the next decade, cloud gaming is the future

[@StillWeRide]

@@iudexe3103 no it wont. cloud is nowhere close to replacing consoles. You future nerds need to come back to reality

[@StillWeRide]

@@brownie43212 and these nintendo simps just eat it up!! "1080p is fine" in 2024?!?!?!

[@PianistTanooki]

I don’t think “software wasn’t ready.” Chances are, we’re going to have a Mario Kart and 3D Mario either at launch or launch window. Neither the Mario Kart nor 3D Mario EPD teams at Nintendo have put out any games since 2017. Mario Kart games used to launch once every 3 years or so, and 3D Marios pre-Odyssey used to take 2-3 years to make (Odyssey took 3-4 years). I know that game development takes longer and becomes more costly as the hardware gets better. However, by the time we get to 2025, both these teams will have been working silently for close to 8 years… MORE than enough time to account for the jump in hardware capabilities.

[@jman2101]

I am toying with the idea buying Switch Oled during/after Switch 2 release. Then in a few years get the Switch 2 refresh.

[@nickproulx6650]

I love how happy Thumbnail Video Game Man is.

[@lopiopness]

Yo the thumbnail tho 😂

[@johnbrooks6243]

What about it, or they changed it recently?

[@db4z09]

I'm nervous they will give it two screens like a supersized 3ds or something such that it looks different enough that parents can easily understand at a glance the console is not just the "same thing" their kid already has. Maybe the second screen would detatch so two players coud have individual screens while each using one joycon, but I would much rather just have the best single screen portable console possible without added bulk and costs taken away from peformace upgrades for gimmicks. What would be awesome, would be a fold out single ~9-10" screen, but that would be way too expensive and fragile.

[@ahmedhasan4966]

Don't worry, Nintendo described the switch successor as "Next model switch," which means that it's indeed going to be a switch 2.

[@Romans5.8Gospel]

If they want a gimmick just throw two cameras and a mic on the console like the DSi and they can emphasize AR as a third way to play even if never used

[@Dairunt1]

There were leaks in hardware updates that hinted at a second display support. I think this gimmick could be "Stream Play", as an evolution of DS and 3DS's Download Play; only that, instead of sending a "demo" to a DS or 3DS, you're actually streaming a second screen to another Switch. Of course this would be very taxing so not every game would support it, but your first-party multiplayer games will.

[@MoonSarito]

The Switch, despite being extremely limited, had incredible ports such as The Witcher 3, Dark Souls, Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot, Nier Automata, Kingdom Come: Deliverance, Hogwarts Legacy, Alien Isolation, Mortal Kombat 11, Hellblade, Doom Eternal and Wolfenstein 2, if the rumor of the Switch 2 specs is real I believe that support for third party games will be even better as the hardware gap will be much smaller. I just wonder what Nintendo will be able to do with this hardware, if they managed things like Xenoblade X and Breath of the Wild on Wii U and also Kirby and the Forgotten Land and Xenoblade 3 on Switch, just imagine what they will be capable with a console that will supposedly be more powerful than the PS4 in portable mode and close to the PS4 Pro/Xbox Series S in Dock mode.

[@turrican4d599]

All these ports massacred by unbelievable bad graphics and low framerate. BAH!

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

The switch isn’t as limited as you think its biggest bottleneck is its memory because the actual GPU on the switch is pretty good.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

@@turrican4d599 not all of those ports but then a lot of these ports were done by lazy and useless third-party developers and you forget that these games were never designed for the Switch hardware in the first place.

[@PianistTanooki]

Also, the fact that Furukawa talked about longer game development cycles being an “inevitability” is a pretty good hint that this successor will be considerably more powerful. He wouldn’t say that to investors if the Switch 2 were only a slight bump like the “New” 3DS.

[@6ch6ris6]

nobody expects the switch 2 to be something like the New 3DS was for the 3DS family. it will be a proper new generation

[@Ozzianman]

The New 3DS was a pretty big bump in performance. 3x to 6x faster depending on workload the game puts on the system. That's why there are New 3DS exclusive titles, Minecraft being one of them. The original 3DS was straight up not powerful enough to run those games.

[@SwitchUpYt]

I'm surprised they didn't release a Switch Lite OLED. I know there are modded Switch lites that run with an OLED and it's a decent upgrade.

[@JonnyLin7]

I'm looking forward to the Switch 2 though. I love my Steam Deck OLED a ton, but even with the dock Steam Deck I feel like its definitely a handheld and not true a hybrid console. If Switch 2 can even just match the Steam Deck's power specs, with the addition of developer optimization (I'm optimistic given some of the miracles developers pulled on the original Switch), Switch 2 supporting DLSS and maintain the seamless docking of the original Switch, it'll be a really great hybrid console experience.

[@andresx791]

The switch is a handheld and a not a true hybrid either, what's different compared to a steam deck? ..ok it doesn't come with a docking station, but just because the switch comes with it, it doesn't make it more seamless than the others.

[@justanotherartist5646]

@@andresx791 Why is the Switch not a true hybrid? Cause you're wrong.

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

I just hope that I'll be able to grab one of the launch models without having to deal with scalpers (PS5 and Series X had issues with initial sales due to scalpers and the supply chain being affected by the pandemic). It'd be neat if Nintendo gave an option to purchase directly from them for those who already have a Nintendo Account by XX/YY/ZZZZ date like how Valve handled the Steam Deck. That being said, there would be some supply chain issues if they did that since there are a TON of alt accounts that a single user could have (I have three accounts on my Switch due to region specific e-Shop titles and DLC, for example).

[@arzfan29]

They didn't confirm anything, they just said "we'll talk about that subject later", bet the day comes and they just say "we don't have a next console planned"

[@Morenob1]

If the Switch is gonna look like PS4/ Pro in docked mode with raytracing and ai upscaling I think the graphics and specs isn't something to complain about. I also want to see analog triggers and a better controller in handheld mode, full Led screen and some exclusive quality launch titles. They should offer 1TB M.2 and an SD card for extra space, BC, VR support like the Samsung phone. That would make anyone buy the Switch 2

[@davidjones8097]

I just hope that they do make it fully backwards compatible with the current switch.

[@JeremyLouisGaming]

That thumbnail is made from our nightmares

[@dandiaz19934]

Is the Switch also the first time it didn't have a handheld competitor? Like Sony didn't put out a PSP since the Vita. So it makes sense that everyone would buy a Switch? Theres nothing else to buy. (Other than handheld PCs)

[@Glitchyy07]

Aside from the steam deck, there was the PlayStation Portal which was basically just a Wii U gamepad for the PS5, but idk if there’s anything else

[@0Synergy]

@@Glitchyy07 Beyond chinese stuff not really.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

Most people bought a DS over the PSP, so your comment makes no sense 😂

[@0Synergy]

@@Adamtendo_player_1 ah yes because selling 80m units is a failure, lmao.

[@Glitchyy07]

@@Adamtendo_player_1 the PSP was still technically a competitor for the DS since it was a handheld released around the same time, the DS just did way better

[@El.Duder-ino]

Memory system both RAM and storage with the unified architecture and Arm based SoC is VERY IMPORTANT and it's great to see they opt for DDR5X variant. I think there is also more performant 8500 model out there already, but probably more expensive than 7500 and Nintendo is not like Sony or M$ and always want to make profit on their consoles. It they would think as competition we would see an amazing next gen handheld even better for what they r going for. Screen should be OLED already, but once again because of costs they will continue with the LCD but good OLED would be a huge improvement. Seeing old Nvidia Ampere cores is also kind of a bummer, but maybe it fits they needs and they don't need the latest ones, still it would be nice to see them.

[@ctjmaughs]

Time to bring back those older single player PC games

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

More like time for PC gaming to die

[@88oscuro]

Pretty cool if they could have it support VR. Making those old concept for Switch true. I mean, Switch 2 will probably be at least comparable to meta quest 3. It would be yet another dimension that the Switch platform could support.

[@didibus]

The PS Portal LCD is quite good. I would hope for it to be at least as good as that one, but OLED would be even better!

[@Ryan-mn8jj]

Yeah my portal screen is awesome. Sure HDR would be nice but I think if the Switch 2 is Portal quality I’d be very happy with it. 1080P is something DF keeps saying isn’t needed but coming from Deck to Portal. My eyes are so so happy! It’s not about game clarity but text and UI! I feel like it’s so much “comfort” on the portal because text is effortless at 1080P on that screen size.

[@zbigniew2628]

​@@Ryan-mn8jjPortal only streams games from consoles, so it can be 1080p. Real handhelds needs to save battery life, so it is better to keep it at lower resolution. Btw, switch not always hits its screen resolution.

[@Ryan-mn8jj]

@@zbigniew2628 I get that I’m just saying I’m excited if Switch 2 with upscaling can have a 1080P handheld screen. It’s so much more comfortable on my eyes for text reading. It’s why I went with Portal over Steam deck.

[@aminparker01]

I feel like Nintendo is making all the right moves behind the scenes nowadays. The rumors sound very positive to me.

[@jeremysart]

While combining their handheld and console market into one has worked out incredibly for Nintendo, I do miss the days of small, shorter, more affordable games, as well as looking forward to having a release both on the handheld system and the console that were entirely different games.. loved that about the Wii U era!

[@TEMINIX]

All they care about is not hurting their Switch 1 sales. That is the only thing that is holding up an announcement.

[@jarde1989]

Or they actually want to have a bank of games that are ready PS5/XSX didn’t get shit for nearly 2 years after launch

[@mkjjoe]

If that was the only thing they cared about they would wait until the sales die out. They're preparing the transition and need a good schedule games close to launch.

[@Kdkjdjewerdnxa]

I’m sure there’s several reasons and the one you mentioned is probably much lower on their list than other reasons. • For one they want a strong launch lineup and they are known to delay games indefinitey until they are great: see totk and Pikmin 4 as recent examples of games with 6+ year dev cycles. • Two they are likely hoping that the yen’s value recovers somewhat before entering mass production. • Three, chip shortages are still a thing I think not interfering with switch sales is pretty low on their list of considerations since Switch sales have been lower this year and game companies rarely wait until sales to totally plummet to launch a new system. You want to launch a system while you have momentum, and if people stopped buying and talking about switch, they’d just be shooting themselves in the foot by striking when the iron is ice cold like they did with Wii U.

[@TheSoxor123]

They want to topple PS2 sales. It's clearly why.

[@colemin2]

​@Kdkjdjewerdnxa If they released one more blockbuster hit this year, they could keep interest high enough to last through next year. But maybe they don't need it.

[@oscarcastro9316]

The selling point is easy don't overthink it like if it were a PS5 or an Xbox. Here's Switch 2, backwards compatible with Switch games and all the new Nintendo games are only available to Switch 2. Nothing else to think about to get people to buy it.

[@Blueperful]

Wild speculation on my part. What if the switch 2 is essentially two separate systems. That the dock is more than just a dock, it contains additional hardware. So you can get 4K game performance at home on your television, and play the same games on the handheld portion, just in 720p with lower graphical settings .

[@gamingallday9225]

I just hope they don't cheap out on hardware and memory considering it's like 9-10 between releases. And @Alex is as always clueless. He don't get the userbase.

[@blubbntroet]

GameCube still my favorite console till today ♥️ If it only would have had DVD and Nintendo not canceling online… Still, sich a great System with awesome Games

[@GoetheNorris]

Mentioning the 3DS, which came out years ago, why not a 3D oled screen ? How far has the technology come? That would really stand out!

[@timg2727]

Because glasses-free 3D is a dead-end technology that never caught on with the general public because it offers very little real benefit to offset the significant tradeoffs it involves.

[@skateryan]

What I would love to see is a Switch 2 with a dock that has an external GPU to boost performance. It could blur the lines between it and the PS5/XSX, and most of those companies are likely to continue to support the Switch 2 the same way they supported the Switch anyway. So, they will probably already have performance and quality modes. That's just wishful thinking on my part, though.

[@kyleverdun4586]

If it's as powerful as the Xbox OneS or the PS4 PRO, then that's a huge win for me. If this is true, the disparity between the Switch 2 and PS5 will be a lot less than it was with the Switch and Ps4. It's sometimes hard to see the difference between a great looking PS4 pro game and a ps5 game.

[@zbigniew2628]

It may be like a PS4 Pro or series S but in lower resolution. I quess it is going to be a bit or twice better than steam deck.

[@danesmith4227]

This is the most needed console iteration of all. ps5 and series x just pushed out during covid times and we were met with scalpers and the games were remasters and remakes or cross platform titles, this generation lacked. The switch sold so well so my guess is that this is going to slingshot from the switch's success trajectory

[@GareWorks]

The only gimmick that makes sense to me - not that they'll necessarily do it - is bringing back the second screen. Theoretically it should be possible if they're using DLSS (which they should be). It's really the only think preventing them from putting DS, 3DS and Wii U games on there as-is (there are obviously ways to port them, but if they can just emulate them, that means they can put out more at once).

[@diegovasquez6409]

I just want a more powerful switch that is backwards compatible with my 200+ library of games, that's it.

[@TonyKanameKuran]

Depends.

[@ratchet2505]

Can't really share a switch so I've noticed that house will by multiple of them for all the kids and its still seen as the kids toy, I'm still impressed at the PS2 at over 150 million. Most of those didn't brake and it was shared to each Livingroom or TV.

[@jsullivan2112]

They need to give it some old school vibes and call it the Super Switch! Anyways I agree about it broadening their audience considerably. It brought me back to Nintendo after not having been a fan since the SNES. I absolutely hated the N64 and everything that came after besides the GC.

[@alphaomega154]

the only reason why they use lpddr5 is because of they are handheld. and looking for battery life more. but they could have use their gamecube approach, using several type of memory for different tasks. something xbox series x use. so they culd go with 8GB of LPDDR5 so they could drop voltage to 0.5 or even 0.3 volts if its idling. and then use a separate 4Gb gddr6 for the vram. which only fires up when the graphics is load up. and force it to merely use the main system LPDDR5 and CPU render when browsing menus and idling desktop(or handheld-top screen or whatever) screen. but the memory size show they arent expecting to compete with the likes of steamdeck. so the focus probably still the same type of lightweight games or a heavily dialed down graphics configuration type of games. meaning, you wont see many type of games that are available in many other platforms. it would be nintendo specific things. well, the reason why im never a fan. and the chances of them reviving "joanna dark' is getting minuscule and more minuscule.

[@HeavyMetalCowboy90]

Don’t need a new gimmick. Triple the power is all I need.

[@alexandrecl4331]

Steam Deck performance + BC is enough for me.

[@Liquid_Paper]

Not going to happen tbh w/o switch 2 being thicker w/ they prolly wont do.

[@mightyhadi6132]

Remember PC =/= consoles/handled even though they are using the same products. It called PC because the hardware using Windows/Linux OS , consoles/handled are different they have very low API that not heavy and less complicated and will result better performance over PC equal parts. I can see ROG ally perf actually in handled and better in docking.

[@william41017]

​@@Liquid_Paper I don't really understand these, but anyway, aren't ARM processors more efficient? And the switch 2 will probably have dlss, so idk

[@Eggplant_Salad]

You’ll get better

[@megapro125]

@@Liquid_Paper I'd bet on the switch 2 beating the steam deck easily. By the time of the Switch 2 release or soon after there's probably also a steam deck 2 for our PC libraries.

[@hiawa23]

I can't believe I own almost all of the Switch first-party games and have finished not one Switch game. I'm looking forward to the next Switch, though.

[@StillWeRide]

its cuz they all suck

[@orijimi]

That is such a substantial degree of strange behavior that it honestly seems like it speaks to some sort of mental disorder.

[@MetalSonic1389]

Great thing about switch is local wireless multiplayer

[@xemtra]

wasn't their info in the shipping manifest about there being two fans? One on the dock? at least suggested. this is kind of interesting

[@guttab0i]

I think it'll be a very strong home console. It will still use the switch medium. And your switch or switch light will work as a PlayStation portal for the home console

[@jefferytillis8309]

It's called we are not announcing anything yet because we want you to keep buying the hardware we already have in the store at full price.

[@skilarbabcock8720]

They literally said that the Switch 2 exists and it'll be revealed this fiscal year my guy. Shut up. I'm as annoyed with the constant repeats of switch 2 but this stuff is legit. And they even said it's the switch next model

[@jefferytillis8309]

@@skilarbabcock8720 Pull your panties out of your crack. I never said it wasn't coming. I merely stated they don't want to stop the sales of the current model. Retailers don't like it when you stick them with inventory by announcing too early. And other reports have already stated it's not coming until 2025. Get your feelings in check.

[@Blindsyde5762]

If the Switch 2 plays old switch games, im 💯 buying it.

[@TheJadeFist]

They've announced an announcement.

[@typeraver]

Gamecube a much much more power n64, though not a success. Not because of its power BUT its gimmicks: odd button layout and mini DVD disks, launching in purple didn't help either.

[@wotanmituns33]

So, it was announced that it will be announced? Wow, exciting.

[@AbruptAvalanche]

5:12 Funny that you mention the DS situation, because I came to the opposite conclusion. They claimed the DS was a third pillar and not a successor to the GBA. They did the same for the Switch, claiming that it was a new thing entirely, not replacing handheld or home console. But here, they just came out and said this will be the Switch successor. They aren't pretending like the new system won't replace the Switch.

[@user-be3qc7re9o]

What's more important is that those consoles were adding a new untested gimmick that Nintendo wasn't sure would succeed. Given how straightforward Nintendo is with their next console, it's definitely not going to be that drastic of a change in terms of concept.

[@Axtmoerder]

Keeping the 30fps dream alive Can’t believe they release thing 5 years after the ps5, ps6 is around the corner by the time it comes out

[@FireBreatherMP1]

This generation sucks man. PS5 and Xbox Series have no games that makes the consoles worth buying 😭

[@marcheharvey2301]

Then most of the games would still be developed for the previous gen lmao

[@skycloud4802]

I don't think Sony should be in a rush for a PS6. I feel like it's a case of diminishing returns now for visuals and power vs price ratio. The kind of jump from PS1 to PS2 is not happening anymore. What video games are capable of seems to be maturing. PS5 already feels more like a PS4 Pro than a generational leap, whilst the PS4 felt marginally better than a PS3. Video games also now take so long to make. Console cycles may have to be longer in turn to compensate for the lack of heavy titles.

[@matthewaddai5336]

As if the ps5 has been fully utilised to its fullest potential and has a massive library of games lmao. This is a non-issue considering how terrible this generation has been

[@randyrrs7028]

Nintendo is taking too long to release the switch 2, by the time they release it on 2025 it would be only a year before Microsoft release their next gen console if they launch it in 2026 and we may see the PS6 in 2027 making the switch 2 a generation behind just like the Wii U was when the ps4/xbox one were out

[@brean2334]

I can’t wait to play Nintendo games with graphics settings from ten years ago instead of 15 years.

[@rayanlikes7004]

Sad but probably true

[@Northeastmarco]

Lmfao facts

[@ask343]

Lmao with Nvidia hardware, I reckon the games will actually look modern Maybe my expectations are too high but with what DF is saying I have some hope

[@user-qv2wd2jc6m]

I mean I am sure it does come from a "place of impatience" but... they also in the same announcement stated it's been 9 years since the announcement of the Nintendo Switch, 9 YEARS! This is an extremely long time to wait for a new console so we have a right to be impatient, everything was only exacerbated by Covid as well...

[@Harlock2day]

Maybe Ninty will find a way to make the docked Switch 2 considerably more powerful that when the Switch 2 is "undocked". Of course it will have to look more modern and refined in every way, the joycons and all. Also it would be nice to get a truly pocketable Switch, smaller than the Lite.

[@Nobody-sp7ug]

Well..... the dimensions from the shipping manifest have it still smaller than the steamdeck......

[@Shannon-ul5re]

The switch 2 is a day one purchase for me. I don’t them to change it to much, Nintendo own this market and you can’t get there games anywhere else. Backwards compatibility is most important and Oled

[@Slickman2006]

The old games might look as good as they do on Yuzu. 😂

[@xekis]

Crazy thing is that some games running on Yuzu running on Switch play better than their direct Switch execution.

[@yzois]

The current switch can make games look great with overclocking, even better with more ram.

[@rihanmiah9676]

Better to pirate no cost 😂

[@ShadowLady1]

​@@yzois and still not as good as yuzu

[@yzois]

@@ShadowLady1 I'm more so trying to say whats possible even with current standards. If the switch can do that with 8 GB ram, then the switch 2 withs it's better everything should be able to match/surpass anything emulators can do (since it will have ray tracing support.).

[@zionich]

I would take a non announcement to temper expectations over an announcement to anouce a future announcement like we have seen from other companies.

[@imaginalex5850]

everyone wants it, i've been critical of the 1st switch outdated hardware when i bought it and , even if the oled switch is a little bump in specs (mostly from node shrink) have to say all the devs that ported games fo work on it's system made an incredible job working within the very limited constraints , and it's actually where a dev's and creator in the space of video game excels, when they have limited / power / memory constraints to have to juggle with ingeniosity around the limitations.

[@MihaiTrica]

When thinking about the next Switch, we have to start with the current Switch as a base, not compare it to PS4 or Series S. Taking into consideration everything that we know so far, I just hope that Nintendo does not put a bad LCD screen on it and does not downlock everything too badly for the sake of battery life.

[@alfo2804]

The major snag of Nintendo focusing on weaker hardware is that there's no guarantee that their audience will automatically want to buy the next console because it's more powerful. PlayStation owners will always want the next PlayStation because it's guaranteed to be more powerful than anything they've ever owned and that makes a big difference to that audience. With Nintendo, though, a lot of their audience is under the mentality that graphics don't matter, which is only ever validated by the fact that the next Nintendo console is still going to be very weak compared to the competition. That's why Nintendo have historically gone with gimmicks: a good gimmick can convince their audience to buy into the next generation. However, like with the Wii U, a bad gimmick can easily backfire and ruin a console's chances, and existing customers will stick with what they have. I think, unless they're willing to risk it all on a gimmick (and current leadership seems to be of the persuasion of doing as little as possible to rock the boat, so that seems unlikely) then their only option is to make it an absolute portable powerhouse of games and media consumption, capable of playing all of the latest games, with all of the streaming whatevers from day one, so they don't need a console or a handheld PC - they can just get this one device that's small, convenient, and suits all of their needs. I think they're also going to have to repeat what they did with the Switch, as well: hook the hardcore first, and then slowly shift towards getting the causals on board.

[@maximini4923]

As a somewhat frequent nintendo customer I'd say the games are are far more likely to make me buy the console than a good gimmick.

[@Glitchyy07]

@@maximini4923same lol

[@matthewaddai5336]

Tbh with the current state of the gaming industry, graphics and power don't really mean as much as they used to. Especially in an era where so many games are going for photo realism or many games going for the same approach gameplay wise (first person/third person shooters, rpgs, action adventure and soulslike games). I think your opinion also negates the fact that fans of Nintendo want unique experiences that emphasise quality, fun gameplay that differs from the norm (whether that is because of a console gimmick or gimmick unique to the game being played). Nintendo has definitely been delivering on that front overall compared to the newer consoles tbh. But i also won't pretend the switch is perfect, and there are many times ive left it to dust for months on end.

[@jphuwae4505]

Easy to captivate current audience. Call it Super Switch or Ultra Switch. Market the hell out of it like Apple would with their iPhones yearly upgrades. They’ll be fine Launching it with Metroid Prime 4 will just be icing on the cake.

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

Switch 2 is a day 1 purchase for me, Nintendo is the only one that understands that physical and digital games can coexist.

[@Zucr_]

Until they delete the service and you no longer have access to all the digital games you purchased.

[@randyrrs7028]

Is that why nintendo took mario 3D all stars off the shelves and eshop? yea they totally understand physical and digital games can coexist LOL

[@ask343]

@@Zucr_ The company is already a few hundred years old, their online service is established enough so that it'll outlive us all

[@Zucr_]

@@ask343 service and company are not the same thing...

[@ask343]

@@Zucr_ I know but their online service is already successful and setup for future compatibility so it's extremely unlikely for them to shut it down. It's kinda like how nobody expects KZbin to ever shut down because this platform has become a monolith

[@epikhigh97]

Hoping the switch plays stellar blade

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

Doubt Sony will let that game escape the PS5 since it's one of their 15 exclusive titles, but it'd be neat to play that game on a hybrid console that doesn't require internet.

[@senorsnipey1595]

Chris seems to not take into account the fact that the N64 faild because of format limitations that hindered 3rd party support. The gamecube cameout a year after the PS2 demolished the competition and also hit the ground running also with format limitations and later lacking 3rd Party support. The switch has hitten such a sweet spot that if they only improved what the switch does and its graphics/ performance, Nintendo will have another win. Maybe glasses free 3D should come back for devs that want to use it and 3ds/ virtual boy games. I mean indie games in 3D were awesome like Shovel Knight

[@sabataEX]

You can internally delay something. Don’t know why you guys at df don’t get that. Good video otherwise. I do think they can get a 4k image on tv from what I wise I heard leak wise but it would fake 4k. Not native at all.

[@TonyKanameKuran]

Native or not, it STILL looks good in 4K thanks to DLSS technology.

[@sabataEX]

@@TonyKanameKuran yes. Agreed. DLSS can make it look good as I’ve seen before if used right.

[@zachcarmichael699]

17:30 Pretty sure we've gotten reports of it being an 8-inch, 1080p, LCD screen.

[@zbigniew2628]

No point for it being 1080p... Waste of battery, even steam deck is not 1080p.

[@Nelbroth]

A 60 FPS Breath of the Wild would be sweet but no doubt Nintendo would charge 60 bucks for it.

[@gamebit9063]

It will be called the SwitchDeck!

[@put4558350]

Switch 2 gimmick might be on screen. VR ? So everyone know. Switch 2 is likely to be 1080p LCD that make by samsung. Again After switch oled Nintendo return to LCD. And have Samsung the oled guy make that 120hz LCD.

[@ZeroUm_]

1080p is too low for VR, you need at least 4 million pixels per eye at 90hz. That’s PS5 territory.

[@FireBreatherMP1]

​@@ZeroUm_not necessarily, the original Meta/Oculus Quest was about 2million pixels per eye at 72hz. I think casual gamers with a slight interest in VR as a gimmick would be totally fine with that. Although I don't know if Nintendo would be so VR forward with the Switch 2.

[@put4558350]

@@ZeroUm_ 1080p @ 120 hz = original ps vr

[@tgrujic1965]

The Super Switch will lean into the 3DS library to carry the momentum forward like they did with Wii U games in order to pad their library of games.

[@bulletpunch9317]

Tsmc 4nm confirmed, 1080p60 with 5 hour battery life

[@marcusflint2907]

Where are you seeing that? I'm in the middle of the video BTW so if it's in there a timestamp would be appropriated.

[@Avm371998]

Where is it confirmed? I thought it was confirmed it would be 8nm

[@audie-cashstack-uk4881]

Is this video a re upload as this is all 1 week plus old info and who confirmed 4nm and no 8nm was never confirmed

[@mkjjoe]

Your uncle or someone else?

[@yzois]

T239 chip is orin (8nm)

[@BM1620]

We've all known they were going to keep the same style and form factor with a new system. The Switch was so successful they'd be stupid to try and "innovate" a new concept. Also look at the current success PC gaming handhelds are enjoying.

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

man he looks like Klaus Schwab

[@imaginalex5850]

If the new switch has the new specs of usb C connectors, they could eventually make a gpu or ai upscaler dock later on

[@killerpwned89]

I bet the console has been ready for at least a year to go and they are just waiting for a robust launch lineup.

[@Dairunt1]

I don't think there will be a gimmick on the Switch 2, and if it is, it's going to be something non-invasive (like HD Rumble). Nintendo has gotten this image of being the company with the "gimmicky" console, but that was born out of necessity when they knew in the GameCube era that they can't compete in raw power with PlayStation and Xbox. Now that they found this niche of going all in on a handheld device, and the only one of the big three that are investing in ARM, they can join the specs race again, and try to deliver a top of the line ARM device to compete with the x86 big boys.

[@sontho6995]

Nintendo didn't find a niche, they carved their path. When that switch trailer dropped I thought "this is a point of no return". A hybrid system is something that's been toyed with by companies, but none of them ever made it the main product. But that's what the switch is: nintendo's main product & the hybrid system done right. It's why I think switch isn't a gimmick for nintendo, that's their identity from here on out & I think it's the right choice.

[@Dairunt1]

@@sontho6995 Exactly; that's why the Switch 2 being just a Switch 2 is more than enough, and easily understandable. "It's the next generation Switch". It's not like people are not accostumed to incremental upgrades in a post-iPhone world.

[@sontho6995]

@@Dairunt1 I just hope Nintendo isn't self conscious & doesn't wanna be called a copycat because Sony does the same with their systems.

[@Dairunt1]

@@sontho6995 They've been on this market way before Sony. I think copying Sony is the least of their worries.

[@sontho6995]

@@Dairunt1 I agree with that, it's just nintendo doesn't use numbers to name their systems like sony does.

[@stabinghobo57]

Nintendo is like please stop asking about Switch 2!!

[@JaydenXV]

One thing that makes people buy nintendo is honestly Pokemon It will move at least 50 mil units for that