CREATING THE LAG (Like Paul McBeth)

[@TheMakki]

"...and then just go along." Gotta be fluid.

[@dgspindoctor]

Yea... I could have been more specific, but then again, I have made a ton of videos about the arm and so on.

[@TheMakki]

@@dgspindoctor I thought it was a perfect little ender for the video. Appreciate the content as always.

[@mikeschwifty5776]

Sun's out guns out 💪

[@austingreen2463]

Thank you for creating videos that focus on the "feeling" versus your technical videos. I appreciate both, but sometimes it's easier to "feel" than to work on technicalities.

[@dgspindoctor]

My pleasure!

[@carlrathburn8722]

I'm gonna be honest I absolutely love the way you break it down, keep it simple, and get down to the basics. You have a way of teaching that goes so far beyond what many other coaches do..in my opinion(no disrespect to any of them of course). I just really like how you break it down! Awesome job and I feel as if you can really help me a lot!

[@dgspindoctor]

Thank for saying those kind words!

[@JohnKelly6x6Design]

I couldn't agree more.

[@flash_point8272]

Just wanted to let you know I really appreciate your channel and the effort you put into helping us newer players learn.

[@dgspindoctor]

Glad to hear it!

[@JayGib_SFC]

Between you and Overthrow, I’ve become conscious of my form and realized I’ve been doing it all wrong for 5 years.

[@dgspindoctor]

Maybe not ALL wrong! But good to be on track now!

[@jeremybeam7043]

9 years for me 😂

[@BrianBloom]

I'm just glad to finally find instruction that explains the mechanics and physics, and not just "Hey, mimic my throw because I'm good"

[@dgspindoctor]

I love the form forums: "Look at Simon Lizotte and mimic him, you'll be good." Like... no shit?

[@jaynorris3631]

Overthrow overthinks a little bit. I prefer the straight to the point style.

[@mtgguiltfeeder4111]

I watch so many form videos but somehow YOURS always leave me feeling confident in what I need to work on. You have a great energy around you and I love the way you explain everything. Thank you so much for doing what you do. 🙏

[@dgspindoctor]

You are so welcome! And thank you so much for letting me know 🥰.

[@dogsanddiscgolf]

"Let's get down to business"! Can I say how much I enjoy your coaching? Thank you, X 100! Having played hockey most of my young life, it hit me when you suggested checking with your shoulder! You have a great way of communicating what you want us to feel. And English is your second language. Amazing!

[@dgspindoctor]

Thanks!

[@TomL00]

This channel has made a huge difference in my game as a new player. You explain things in simple terms really well. Please keep it up!

[@dgspindoctor]

That's the plan! Thanks!

[@DiscGolfAddict]

Dude. Your videos are a game changer! Can not thank you enough

[@dgspindoctor]

Glad you like them!

[@njott1021]

This channel is the cure for overthinking the backhand

[@dgspindoctor]

Yes, let me do the thinking.

[@mattrandall7836]

Wow. Thank you. This actually makes sense to me. I'm doing field work tomorrow

[@Linushockeygik]

Had a great round today and finally won against one of my biggest rivals (one of my best friends) :D Your videos have helped a lot especially with my timing/plant the foot. Thanks again for another great video.

[@dgspindoctor]

Well done!

[@Linushockeygik]

Thanks!

[@Joey-Robertson]

Thanks Doc. I was diagnosed with can’t throw past 300 feet many years ago and I quit trying. But now that I found your videos I know I was using my arm all those years. 🤯

[@dgspindoctor]

Great to hear you have found hope!

[@janisarkkinen7562]

The rubberband feeling is called shoulder-hip separation 😊 hips fire foward when the shoulders try coil backwards

[@dgspindoctor]

That's one way to look at it, yes.

[@SixSided]

Gained maybe 100 - 150 feet of effortless distance over the summer by watching your stuff and putting in the hard work! Now that I can out drive people at league night, I will need to learn how to score well on the course during the off season haha

[@dgspindoctor]

That is awesome!

[@jeffgodden8366]

You put things in a context I can understand and relate too.Thank you for your videos.

[@dgspindoctor]

Thanks for watching!

[@Sandsawks]

Always look forward to another DG Spin Doctor tutorial!

[@bkindglassworks]

I’ve been rebuilding my form over the last year and it’s been a crazy ride but you’ve really helped a lot, thanks! The latest videos have been pinpointing every next step.

[@dgspindoctor]

Happy to help!

[@deaddavediscgolf]

Awesome! Best explanation I've seen so far!

[@dgspindoctor]

Awesome, thank you!

[@blueshiftt]

Wow, noting that the stretch comes from the elbow instead of the hand is huge for me. I've been working on this, and it's been really hard to feel the stretch from my hand. Thinking of the elbow helps a ton!

[@dgspindoctor]

Yeah, the hand is not that important really. The separation between the hips and the shoulders is, and the extension of the lower arm adds very little or nothing to it.

[@julianseyal]

This is very helpful thanks for weight exercise to help us “feel” the stretch

[@dgspindoctor]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ryanroussel5588]

Love your instructional videos Spin Doc! You explain and break it down different than others in a way that somehow it clicks. After watching your vids I’ve added about 30-50’ of distance on my BH throws. I was maxing around 375 feet BH but now can reach 425 feet on a good rip. Appreciate what you bring to the game! My FH has always been solid 350-375 feet but excited to be able to utilize and throw more lines. Because if you’re not trying to improve, what are you doing??!?

[@leotanprman]

Thank you! Another banger.

[@dgspindoctor]

Thanks for watching!

[@jovanlouis4791]

This is it right here! This is gold brotha. Thank you!

[@dgspindoctor]

My pleasure!

[@discbee9107]

One of the most helpful form videos ever! Thank you thank you🙏

[@dgspindoctor]

Glad it was helpful!

[@lecosmique]

Thanks for another fine video!

[@dgspindoctor]

Thanks for watching!

[@lizirillo]

Thank you so much for this kind of videos that are so easy and clear that one can understand what has to do to keep progress

[@dgspindoctor]

You are so welcome!

[@davinshi.visuals]

Great video! Look at all those bugs flying around him tho 😬

[@dgspindoctor]

Tell me about it. Though they were around the camera, not me 😏.

[@mattiaskruger4104]

Great video once again! keep up the good work.

[@dgspindoctor]

Thanks, will do!

[@fuffurfly]

Love your style brother and as always good stuff. 👍 I’ve been thinking about how to achieve this paul Mcbeth motion and watching your videos. I’m starting to think It’s beginning to happen. What real has driven it home , is when I began starting from a stand still, and weight shifting forward with my hand going to the hit position. If you imagine a bull whip in your hand and with a horizontal movement instead of overhead, as you draw the whip backwards and then begin stepping forward you have to wait before you can actually pull the whip forward for the cracking back to the hit point. If that makes sense. Appreciate your videos. Thanks

[@dgspindoctor]

Great analogy!

[@ConsensusReality]

great job thanks

[@dgspindoctor]

Thank you too!

[@brannnnnnn]

another great video

[@dgspindoctor]

Thanks again!

[@joakimjohansson3040]

nice one!

[@dgspindoctor]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@darkpikachu4694]

Hey, great informative video! Are those wasps around you or just large flies?

[@dgspindoctor]

Hah, they were some mosquitos and around the camera only, didn't even see them before editing.

[@dlewisfl]

Like the instruction here ... subbed. What about driving the left arm down? It looks like McBeth makes his back "wider" by doing this which is another stretch to create power.

[@dgspindoctor]

Thanks! Well... I am not a fan of thinking about that kind of minutiae, but maybe I'll have to cover it sometime later.

[@jakemiller270]

I think I figured out a way to get this stretch feeling messing around in the field this morning after watching this video earlier. I basically rip my lead arm forward (like I am backhanding someone) and throw elbow behind me with my back arm (like in a self defense situation). Once I feel stretch I plant the lead leg.

[@dgspindoctor]

R.I.P. weak backhand.

[@jakemiller270]

​@@dgspindoctorI edited it to my full explanation.

[@dgspindoctor]

Okay, if you feel like doing it like that. It's not what I teach though.

[@jakemiller270]

Fair I have hit a point where feel vs real makes teaching a swing so hard. Certain timer and feel points when legs and hips are mentioned never click. The upper body timers have been the only ones to click with me.

[@Mr.Kaladin]

Do you do lessons? Cause seems like you are the only teacher that speaks in terms I understand

[@dgspindoctor]

In Finland at the moment one on one. We'll see in the future if I go online lessons, but I prefer meeting people and seeing them throw in person.

[@Mr.Kaladin]

@@dgspindoctor dang. Finland is a bit away from me living in Michigan 😂 well if you do online reviews or lessons I will be signing up!

[@dgspindoctor]

Or if I pop by in Michigan for some freaky reason.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Holy swarm of gnats Batman! I feel your pain brother.

[@dgspindoctor]

It's hard, but you just gotta grind.

[@RBadding]

One thing: Paul's left arm starts moving forward at the same time as his weight starts shifting forwards. So he will be compact when the rotation starts. This is something I haven't achieved. For some reason it's too hard to implement.

[@dgspindoctor]

Go slower to learn.

[@earlthomas6295]

Well I guess I have a new kettle bell exercise to do in the gym.

[@dgspindoctor]

Just to get the feel, then you can move on to lighter objects.

[@alainderoulette]

If I understand you , just smash the window with the elbow and let the disc come through . Is that right ? Thank's!

[@dgspindoctor]

I, personally, am tucking the disc in the chest and letting it sling out. But for many that seems odd.

[@lpsmay4990]

So to clarify. You need to activate the lats like if your doing a one armed bent over row. Does that mean the scapula retracts also to help make the arm fire?

[@dgspindoctor]

To clarify: HELL NO. Never did I say to activate the lats. You stretch it, not pull it. If you had watched my videos, you would know I'm strictly against what you're implying. You must keep the elbow out and far away from the body, so everything else but to retract the scapula. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH_OhXSgr8yUnLMsi=Skk2o4e5571net06

[@lpsmay4990]

Thanks Jaani for the clarification.

[@dgspindoctor]

No problem, and a great question.

[@ciromassa7322]

Hey bud! Love your teaching skillz. I have a ?. So Josh says to be on toes during coil. Im on toes while i xstep, but then when i start my coil, my foot falls.flat. is this a problem?

[@dgspindoctor]

Maybe, depends on what happens next.

[@JimSoup-ft6mo]

Is it a problem if my back leg comes violently behind my front when I throw? I look at a lot of pros and their back leg sort of just a gently picks up off the ground

[@dgspindoctor]

I don't see any problem, unless it causes a problem.

[@bobdmb]

thank you, great video! Does the off hand have something to do with also tightening the rubber band?

[@dgspindoctor]

I doubt it. I mean, if you do everything else perfectly, you may try to add something from the off arm. But focusing on the off arm instead of the things that contribute 98% of the throw is just wasted effort. I consider it the supplement of backhand form; you can't fix your poor diet and sloppy workout routine by taking supplements, but if you want to add that extra 2% of gains, you can try and take some creatine and see if it helps. Otherwise, just stick to the basics.

[@njott1021]

From what I see, the off arm contributing to the backhand rubber band (as seen in the sling shot disc golf channel) effect seems to be a more high level form add on. There're a lot of other parts of the form that should be focused on before that. As long as your arm gets tucked into your body at the appropriate time, it's on the right track

[@bobdmb]

@@dgspindoctor thank you for your reply! I was asking because I want to locate that right tension on the back under the shoulder blade. When I extend my right hand backwards and I do the opposite movement with the off arm, I feel much more tension. I just wondered if this is what the off arm achieves but I think I misunderstood. Thank you for clarifying!

[@dgspindoctor]

Just because it looks like the Off arm is a major contributor (and it looks like that only because SSDG says so...), doesn't mean that it is.

[@tonyriedel4421]

​@@bobdmbThe off arm does load the back, which is why Paul McBeths off arm starts driving before the disc is moving forward. When you do it correctly (which is hard) you can feel the rubber band effect through the upper back and how the off arm jump starts the throw

[@TheBerryTV]

Spin doctor is yolked?!

[@dgspindoctor]

Not much anymore. Getting old and weak. You should have seen me back in the days... 🥲

[@jt6455]

So I should try to resist my body opening (as in rotating open) as much as possible to create more lag? Thank you for the interesting vid

[@dgspindoctor]

Not exactly, unless you have troubles opening too early. I teach people to stop the body momentum forward, continue with the elbow and then let the momentum continue around the spine. But if you only try to rotate, your momentum is not going forward to stop, and it leaks to the side. Rotation is a by-product of stopping the momentum, not the aim.

[@Murmeln88]

COOL!

[@dgspindoctor]

Super cool!

[@DiscBelief]

Do you think the number of fingers I use use for my power grip affects my distance? Seems like I get a lot more snap/spin when I use 2 fingers.

[@dgspindoctor]

Whatever gives you the best and most consisten feeling is the best grip.

[@njott1021]

Sounds like more of a grip issue. When you grip your disc with more fingers, you might be backloading your grip with your ring finger and pinky. When youre 4 finger power gripping, focus prominently on the index finger, that's the most important one.

[@kimlof1568]

Mycket bra.

[@dgspindoctor]

Tack ska du ha!

[@John.Angell]

I'm not going to let my wife watch this, she'd think I was going to learn how to have feelings.

[@dgspindoctor]

Oooh, that's dangerous.

[@footfaultdiscgolf]

Foot fault