Dhoruba Bin-Wahad: "Jared, You Are Wrong (Again)!"

[@uuakata]

thank you so much BPM. peace to Our dear Brotha Dhoruba. thank you so much Dr Jared for allowing Our dear Brotha to speak uninterrupted. that is something We rarely get the opportunity to experience. barz & jewelz…

[@Gaff.]

_'If he stood up and said anything about it, he couldn't get elected _*_dog-catcher_*_ in New York!'_ There might not be anyone in the world I'd rather hear complain than Dhoruba.

[@user-jv8kr4im1t]

First comment. Long live our freedom fighters, long live our prisoners political or otherwise and power to all those who lost lives in the struggle. As we are supported we show support to our brothers and sisters in freedom struggles globally and we will not stop until our autonomy is fully realized. Ase

[@LaLasta]

I could listen to Dhoruba spitting bars ALL DAY, and I understand JAB thought D was talking about him, which would make D wrong, but D is 💯right about academia in general 🙌🏽❤

[@lakeyshalocke3123]

I really appreciate the different generations having dialogue.

[@rbggwapo]

"What is this nigga doing jogging in Tel Aviv⁉️"

[@michaeltee4275]

Professor Gerald Horne is one of the best radical academic role models in the world today.

[@jeanettesdaughter]

And I know a few others; Derethia Duval ( retired SFState) ; Akinyele Umoja ( Georgia State) ; Kathleen Vkeaver ( Emory University) retired; and some in office whose identities shall remain anonymous. Many platforms. We can and do operate on many platforms. Mi gente, Wagad who could be more abstract than you in your brilliant critical thinking and delivery BUT certainly action is supreme. Careful now, action minus the study, the critical analysis of end stage capitalism and historical materialism and even careful study of recent events will get people killed! We’ve seen this. Lotta folks flying under a false flag. It’s the deeply analytical and watchful that can unmask them. Let’s go!

[@littlemisstricky]

BPM has helped my politics tremendously; however, i do agree that a lot of the conversations are too abstract or too far removed from our present reality. Though I'm not sure exactly what has to be done.

[@0_P.E.]

One of the main things that drew me to BPM is that they usually don’t engage the abstract stuff. It took me forever to find a black channel that doesn’t primarily engage in that.

[@michaeltee4275]

Dhoruba is laying out the radical role of would-be radical academics.

[@mhvichy]

I almost tapped out at the 35:00 minute mark with the internal miscommunication. But I'm glad I didn't! Dhoruba should hold no holds barred seminars. Call them shiiieeets, The Education You Wish You Had but it's never too late!!

[@kevinminns5272]

Black academics, not you. Finally someone breaking down the BS PHRASE GOOD TROUBLE

[@Sankofa906]

Now this is a high-level conversation. the wisdom transfer is beautiful to hear.

[@charlenegraham1923]

Love hearing from him. Informative and inspirational.

[@aaronhodges5972]

Bro on fire!!!

[@alexomar7464]

Thank You.

[@kjsakuma]

Always great to hear from DBW I just respectfully disagree that pro capitalism ppl like Floyd would even bother reading MOBBP bcuz they've made a career not pushing for our liberation. They would rather repeat the oppressive behavior bcuz they feel it benefits them. Black celebs tell on themselves when being dismissive of Dr Balls research tho that would b most of them. Karen Hunter another one of many.

[@cbrathwaite1474]

Jared is becoming legendary in his ability to accept constructive criticism

[@jamesnadell1998]

That's bc Dr Ball is a mature and evolved (hu)man being who operates in good faith. He actually seeks discourse with opposing perspectives in order reach a higher level synthesis. Dr Ball is a role model of a scholar who is a people's scholar functioning effectively inside and outside academic spaces. The fact is, for my money, when DBW is on with Dr Ball, it is the most revolutionary and insightful space available in any media setting. The reason Dhoruba is so marginalized across the media spectrum is NOT because he is wrong. It's the opposite. His critical thinking and the authenticity of his presentation are formidable and valid. That's why he is marginalized. Even his enemies respect him. That says a lot.

[@deculturation]

Dr Ball got some Diallo flashback in the first half lol glad it got cleared up tho very insightful and fruitful conversation looking forward to what’ll it’ll produce

[@StephenCarvlin]

1:05:03 ."We have no abolitionists... We have no left" I believe this is proper place to start the discussion. I don't know where it directs us but we have to recognize this first.

[@spinne-mann7104]

Thank you both for recording this important discussion. Tuning in from Germany

[@louisarick]

Please film a meeting between DBW and Mumia - it would be epic.

[@paulthesimple7483]

Love these convos !!

[@DefenderOfLogic]

I would rather have this type dialogue rather than 2-3 hours of EYL. This conversation was very substantive.

[@0_P.E.]

I disagree, I like both. Learning from an elder comrade and building with peer comrades, both have their place and both are necessary imo.

[@DefenderOfLogic]

@@0_P.E. You choose to be entertained. I chose to be educated. Life is finite. I'd rather extract the most value out of every minute. Feel free to waste yours.

[@michaeltee4275]

Class struggle!!!

[@midwestlivin7029]

Takes maturity and wisdom to take a straightening from an elder

[@IsiahBradley]

Great show! THANKS for this!!!

[@sdwalls72]

Loved the discussion. Extremely informative on so many levels. Much love to you both.

[@plumjade4584]

On point again! Beautiful analysis tonight on BPM. Per Wikipedia, in 2012, Chaka Khan Black Panther member, performed for the Israeli Defense Forces to raise thousands of dollars for the IDF after Stevie Wonder declined the offer.

[@yesmayhem]

I came across a Finkelstein for the first time last night. A YT video with his thoughts on "The great White Abolitionist William Lloyd Garrison after Nat Turner’s Rebellion (Compare the wretched Squad and Bernie Sanders)"

[@michaeltee4275]

Community Control of the police. Public safety controlled by the public. All power to the communities. The People.

[@jeanettesdaughter]

Can’t wait for Mumia❤

[@tohjam21]

Appreciate DBW message…and totally agree. Our teachers are either revolutionaries or oppressors. And JAB DBW gives you street cred don’t he?? 😆🫡

[@michaeltee4275]

The origins of that black comprador class actually, goes back to the black slave traders, in Africa, and slave drivers and patrollers in the American slave labor camps.. That class was only modified and reconfigured in the 1970s.

[@shirleyjbaker1096]

Raleigh NC

[@marshallkirkpatrickjr2039]

Greensboro in the house

[@0_P.E.]

I’m with DBW on this one. It felt abstract indeed. I didn’t know who Finklestein or Kendi was before all of this and still don’t know tbh until you brought them up Dr. Ball and I’m still not quite sure why I should know who they are, given what seems like your strong disagreements with them and their takes. 🤷🏾‍♂️ It was a 🔥 conversation nonetheless, always with Dhoruba! ✊🏾✌🏾

[@MrJaccTrippa]

How do I get a copy of that Target Blue book? The war against BLA

[@michaeltee4275]

Dhoruba is ABSOLUTELY correct about the incorrectneess of the slogan: "Defund the police" . . .?

[@kemwershabbaka4351]

A working definition of fascism is needed. "Democratic fascism" is still nebulous. My definition of fascism is the melding of group power and state power usually to the detriment of other groups. I acknowledge corporate fascism. I acknowledge ethnic and religious fascism. There is even class fascism. Democrat is not a group.

[@jalalnowhereman7034]

''Slap Squad.''

[@freddywutaichin4535]

Are there any Black People in is-it-real that Mayweather might be sending aid to? Just a thought.

[@chrisjohnson4039]

Unless it's to the group that repatriated to Israel from Chicago in the 1960s, I seriously doubt it.