Did I just Find the Rarest 2nd Gen Cummins??

[@VBELTandSON]

Bed trim and cab trim doesn’t match. Bed has the 97 trim cab has the 98 trim. and has the wrong trans for the shifter boot.

[@TiresandTribulations]

THE 2nd GEN GOD CHIMES IN!

[@alleycatiron4395]

The knowledge is extraordinary and much appreciated. 02 dually 4x4 5600. God blessed nor cal, im a bc boy were a close second big guy. Cheers

[@oe542]

The shifter and boot are correct for a 94-97

[@VBELTandSON]

@ yes but the shifter tower from the trans is not. Reason why the shifter fit is sloppy. Has a late model nv4500 in it.

[@Deezuldrew94]

It’s been cab swapped with a 98.5-02 quad cab from the previous 94-97 club cab

[@aboutthetimes8411]

97 dash with 98-02 seats, console and door panels. Crazy truck

[@Cdj35555]

Check the vin on cab in passenger floor board under carpet. And there’s a vin behind the pcm, guarantee the cab vin won’t match the title

[@skipmcgill]

So glad you are finally working on a dually! I want to see the KDP fix and front seals video.

[@decentgarage]

Those videos are coming soon!

[@loudonhaines2294]

Looks like it'll be a fun build to do. Your direction with it is going to depend on how hard the truck will be used. I know some folks don't care for the AFC Live's but I personally like it. A little pump timing while inside the front cover and it'll feel a lot stronger and more responsive. ARP has head bolts that'll handle 500hp, with no need to machine the rockers. I have them on my 97 and they're holding up great. Lastly, remove the heater bowl, flush out all the lines and fluids you can find and check on those front wheel bearings cause they take a beating. Good luck with the build. I'm sure you guys will make good use of that unicorn, even if it's been cab swapped, still a cool truck.

[@Thanosisnotreal]

I wonder if your title Vin match the Vins on the cab? Core support, driver door jam, dash, glove box, and under the carpet under the passenger seat. There are probably other locations… I’m betting on that being a ‘99 cab. Cool truck for sure, always wanted a dually 2nd gen to match my 98 12 valve.

[@Mopardude]

Probably one of 2 scenarios. It was a late build in 97 and they ran out of 97 cabs and switched to 98 parts. Or It was vin swapped and rebuilt because for a number of probable different reasons, and that is why it was repainted.

[@oldfarmer4700]

I bet the farm it’s had a lot changed. I got a 97 2500 that has a Dana 80 dually rear, 2002 door panels and 95 seats and 2013 center console. So do I call it a rare 2500 or a custom 3500? I know that truck has had a lot of wrenches on it and it not what came from the factory.

[@Mopardude]

@@oldfarmer4700 I agree with ya, I bet if he went looking for other year specific parts he will find many more anomalies. Although other than the obvious I dunno if there was much else different between the 2 years. Is it possible to plug a scanner in and find out what year the computer or any of the modules think they are from? Yea the rare 2500 thing is kinda lame but its kinda how the youtube game is played. Come look look at this dodge with miss matched parts probably doesn't get the same amount of views.

[@oldfarmer4700]

@@Mopardude I bet he talks to the previous owner or owners they will shine a light on a lot.

[@FiveNineFab]

The t-shirt seen beginning at 12:25 is the pinnacle of automotive fashion!

[@andycornell201]

Awesome find. Lose ALL of the truck stop garbage badging including the Fat and Sassy moniker and chrome nerf bars and plexi air deflector. Can't wait to see it finished.

[@decentgarage]

That was my first thought... Did this guy hold up a truck stop!? 😂

[@tanmetanner6950]

I have the same exact truck. Was a dually at first but now is black and flat bed. Same interior setup. I felt like it was all swapped, but dash pad was definitely factory , and all the wiring was setup factory. And I’ve seen a few setup same way forsale in eastern pa.

[@decentgarage]

I'm curious to see how your truck turned out!

[@Mudmasher2]

Also has 12v exterior body trim on the bed and 98+ exterior trim on the doors. Clean truck. But I’d say it’s 2 different trucks combined into 1.

[@Halffast719]

My first 2nd Gen was a 98 12 valve 5 speed 4x4 with a quad cab. I wish I still had that truck. I was 2nd owner and only had 26k miles on it. Drove that truck back and forth from Colorado to California 5 times a year. I was told there wasn’t enough 24 valve Cummins to complete the trucks that year so they threw the new quad cabs on what they had left over. Only for 98 and not 97. You might have a cab swapped 97.

[@428gearbender3]

Seen at least 3 12 valve rear door rams for sale out here in northern California in the oast 10 years, didn't buy any of them because in Comiefornia 98 and up have to get a smog test every 2 years, I have a 97 2500 4x4, 96 3500 2wd flatbed, and a 92 350 4x4 350 flatbed 5speed, all 12 valves. All of them exempt from the king's tax

[@dieseldirtdude]

i found a early 98 for my dad, beautiful red with 4x4 and 12 valve with rear suicide entry, even though the rear seats are as useful as rear 1st gen seats, a couple kids wont mind the additional space to ride along, being listed in the 1997 model year is extremely rare, ive purchased and repaired many and never have i seen that, a unicorn for sure there sould be production numbers by the vin, im looking forward to what you might find out.

[@decentgarage]

Production number is 12/96 🤯

[@momitch62]

I have i think the exact same trailer. just repainted and replaced the deck then bolted the tow hooks from the front of my f-150 to the rack for a better strap points.

[@decentgarage]

I like that idea, that's a great way to beef up the tie down points.

[@jassibrar8418]

The diesel Gods are shining on you brother!! Cant wait for all the content on this project!!🤙 im like a giddy little teenage girl when you start new projects 😂😂

[@bigmurph1447]

You should of flush the intercooler out all that oil in there laying in there you got really lucky. I seen one run away because of that turbo went bad put oil into intercooler they put new turbo on and fire it up and see u later engine blew her up.

[@decentgarage]

I'm going to be taking care of all that soon!

[@larag4646]

Fab some supports for between the front and rear doors. It took them a bit to figure out they needed it when they started doing those suicide doors. The ranchers out in west Texas had some problems where the trucks would twist enough that the cab would buckle a bit.

[@drewmax-kl4oy]

Cab lights tells me its cab swapped. 12v cabs usually have bigger cab lights look up 94-97 cummins with cab lights and then search up 99-02 cummins with cab lights. But cool truck.

[@decentgarage]

I'm going to take a closer look at that cab.

[@h.h.legacydiesel6724]

That is a great & lucky find, blow it apart and start the rebuild 😮 😅. ✌🏻❤️ 🇨🇦. HAPPY NEW YEAR.

[@decentgarage]

Thanks for the love, I'm so excited to dig into this build!

[@JustinSchooler-f2j]

I have a 98 12valve short bed 4x4 5 speed with opening back doors, has the 97 style dash

[@Thanosisnotreal]

Do you have the 98+ door panels, seats and other interior?

[@JustinSchooler-f2j]

@Thanosisnotreal Yes, has the 97 style dash, as far as I know it's all original

[@robertreese5650]

Check the front end carefully, if it been maintained, should be good. I don't think that club cabs were available for diesels until the next Gen...

[@DDTHAMS]

Use this to get rid of the smoke smell. I swear it works on all the cars I flip. Eden Pure air purifier 24 hrs and it’s gone

[@decentgarage]

Sweet I'll try it out! Right now I've emptied a full bottle of febreeze in there 😂

[@Trent-l4r]

My bet is with cab swap, that truck would not have let the factory with 2 different trims on it. And personally have never heard of a 97 dash with 98 interior unless someone has swapped a 12v motor and dash into it. As for the cab lights they are aftermarket so cab may or may not be even off a 1 ton originally because without taking headliner down it’s impossible to know if they are factory cab lights. But that would also tell you if that is also original build, if it’s not factory wiring for the cablights that cab is not a factory dually. Either way beautiful truck and if it’s taken care of it has a lot of miles a head of it

[@nathanblumm234]

Cab was definitely swapped. 94-97 VIN tags were riveted to dash. 98-02 vin tags were riveted to cab. Someone swapped that dash into that cab trying to replicate a "98 12 valve". Or its a 98-02 truck that someone swapped a 12 valve drivtrain and dash into. There should be a VIN tag on the driver side rear door. Another VIN tag is located on the front of the core support.

[@jeffreypinder9398]

I would have trouble giving that truck away. I think your direction on this is a good one, keep it simple.

[@decentgarage]

It'll be going to a great home. I can't keep em all 😁

[@Samuelchaine25]

Can swap for sure , the vin your talking about is not following the cab but the dash , I have a 1996 12v extended cab 4 door with matching vin , vin is riveted to the dash , so you put this matching vin dash in your Honda accord and you got something really rare like you said

[@shauna1945]

Definitely cab swap being a 97, vin number is mounted to the dash plastic on a 97 and to the cab metal 98+ the windshields are different between the years to show vin location. Nothing wrong with a cab swap origonal one couldve been rotten

[@decentgarage]

I'm going to take a closer look and see what I can find.

[@N.A.J.]

The smoke smell will be with the truck from now on. Best practice is to strip the interior completely. Pressure wash or replace the carpet &padding, wash the seat covers, let the seat foams bake in the sun for several days. Use a detailers steam cleaner to clean the vents and ducts, interior plastics, console assembly, dash, door jambs. Back of the door panels have insulation that hold the smoke smell. Keep a can of Ozium in the console, a small spray every few days will greatly help. Airlines used this in airplane cabins when you could smoke on planes. Ugly as they may be, leave the window vents installed. Crack the windows when the truck is parked during the day. Down in Texas, the heat will bring that smoke smell back to life. My 2nd gen was a smoker cab. You have a cab/vin tag swapped truck. The original Crysler rosette vin tag rivets can be purchased to make a tag swap look factory. The green paint and side body moldings of course give it away.

[@dbfabworks5320]

Very cool truck and cant wait to see the build videos!! I wouldnt be surprised if someone did a great job on a cab swap... Definitely an interesting one!!!!

[@decentgarage]

Thanks for watching, I'm excited about the build too!

[@TBarsCarsNParts]

I just parted out a 98 1500 quad cab with the newer dash and wood grain but had the older headlight switch, wiring, and sport front

[@andycooper6397]

In my opinion get rid of the running boards and front bumper guard. Keep her stock. Good score Tim! Good to see you in a second gen 😉

[@kgahms2947]

That appears to be a newer style frame as well 98+. The sway bar is cobra style vs the old 94 to 97 style. Very cool truck with some holy grailness going on

[@howardhudson7214]

Just my opinion, but the reverse opening rear half doors are not that rare. It may be an early offering of that option it seems. But a true 4 door in the second gen trucks are the real rarity. Only offered to governments and or municipalities. Love the channel, hate to see longbed larry go away. Excited for the next adventures.

[@decentgarage]

What's rare is the reverse door cab with a 12 valve. 95% of the 4 door cabs were 24 valve trucks. Building a true crew second gen would be insane!

[@JR-sx3cu]

@@decentgarage I have a '97 built, '98 titled 12 valve with a cab like that, only 2WD though. I think there are lots of anomalies around, they have a common cab heating problem with the air blend door where the motor on the bottom of the shaft spins freely, a royal pain to repair. So I checked into mine and it is an older style cable operated one.... Don't know how that ended up in one of the last 12 valves...

[@wyo_garage20]

Incorrect. There were ZERO true four door 2nd gen’s built, period. No government or municipality was offered something that doesn’t exist. All of them are aftermarket conversions. And any Joe blow could buy

[@merlepatterson]

Might be a good idea to pull the inter cooler and flush it out?

[@decentgarage]

That's on the list of things to do!

[@edwardharris7080]

You need to have that intercooler cleaned or change it out. It's probably full of oil.

[@decentgarage]

I'm definitely going to take a look at that. 👍

[@tmade06]

Rent an ozone machine for inside the cab. It won't completely remove the smell, but it'll help a lot.

[@decentgarage]

I've never heard of that. I'll have to check that out!

[@Bill_from_Nantucket137]

Nothing can beat a good Ole dodge👹

[@davidsimpson3744]

I have an early 1998 12v quad cab dually 4x4 auto . Had since new not a cab swap.

[@sled9263]

Unicorn! I’ve heard of them. Never seen one though.

[@Smittyschannel]

That is rare- 98 & up seats. I wonder if someone at the factory or BMV goofed & called it a 97 at some point

[@garrett8994]

The same color my dads 97 extended cab dually 5 speed 12 valve truck😍

[@garrett8994]

The original green I mean

[@decentgarage]

It's a classic, they don't make them like that anymore.

[@ExclamoElMirrey]

Happy New Year!

[@decentgarage]

You too!

[@DeanBodendieck]

I had one 97 grate truck

[@bigmountain7561]

Honestly I would Rip that truck apart and get it mechanically back together and then tackle the fluff. Restore the whole interior back to stock or a little bit better and then take that stupid white paint off and right back to the factory color. I personally am a big fan of second gens they have little issues compared to the crap that’s out there now. Great Find, Great Video New to the Channel Thanks 🙏 My first new wrecker was a 94 3500 4x4 Cummins Manual Regular Cab with a 22 inch frame extension for my tunnel box behind the cab. It had a twin line on the back and a stinger. That MoFo ran like a Rolex and it was not the fastest but at 70 mph with a vehicle on the back it rode like a Cadillac or a Town Car!!!

[@corndizzel]

That pig sticker is a KSHE 95 sticker from St Louis. I Iive close to St Louis. Pretty good rock station it's been around a long time. They call the pig "sweet meat".

[@mutantryeff]

Just noticed my VE pump seems to surge at WOT like it is losing pressure to the injectors briefly but repeatedly.

[@decentgarage]

What's your fuel pressure at WOT?

[@mutantryeff]

@@decentgarage 10.5 from a FASS Titanium.

[@mutantryeff]

@@decentgarage Also, newly installed Dynamic Diesel Stage 2 injectors.

[@openyoureyes3113]

Chrysler is crazy. I have a 12v with the wiring harness for a 24 v truck I know that it came from the factory that way, because I ordered the truck. I got a call from the dealership telling me they could not put the 12 valve in the truck and asked if I would take the 24. I said definitely not cancel the order. Now I have four wheel ABS brakes factory alarm and 24 v harness. Apparently they decided they could put the 12 in instead of the 24. It is a pain in the ass because I have the transmission for 24 not the 12v And engine computer for 24 v Mechanical p7100 injection pump. I still have the truck.

[@decentgarage]

That's a wild story! I've never heard of that happening.

[@openyoureyes3113]

@ I did not know that until I ordered a new transmission. I got a transmission for 12 valve. But it wouldn’t work. So I had to get one for a 24 valve. My transfer cases is the same as the 24 valve one.

[@user-el4ii7zq6l]

98 12v 4dr nv4500 l4x4 It took me 5 years to find Mine.I've had it about seven or eight years now

[@decentgarage]

That's awesome! It sounds like you really found a keeper.

[@shanenordrum8482]

I have a 2000 model 12 valve 5 speed 4wd I built. Love it.

[@wyo_garage20]

No you don’t

[@darrellhay]

wrong

[@shanenordrum8482]

Yes I do. I put the motor in the truck. Motor is out of a 97.

[@darrellhay]

@@shanenordrum8482 Hahah ok we meant not FACTORY

[@reelshawnbradly3069]

I had a 96' ext. cab dually 4x4 cummins and almost traded it in 97' because of those doors for the back seat but only had 16k on it at the time and couldn't justify it for the price.

[@decentgarage]

That was a great truck to have, you never know, maybe you'll find another one one day!

[@douglascole3842]

I'm pretty sure they made the quad cab in 97 or some ppl call it ext cab with doors

[@RodolfoLozano-pk1er]

That’s awesome, I’m from Laredo as well. Small world

[@Anthony12valve440RB]

Me personally i would de badge it get rid of all those stickers, that hood visor , ugly push guard and i would change those ugly head lights. They do have ones that look stock but are up to date with LEDs. But it’s not my truck so my opinion probably doesn’t count. Other than that thats a Solid Truck Tim good find brother 👌🏽

[@decentgarage]

I've got a list of things to do but it's gonna be a fun process!

[@davidsimpson3744]

The stock head lights on mine were total crap at night driving

[@drewmax-kl4oy]

The fact that it used to be green is even rarer. Never seen a green 12v 2nd gen Cummins dually 5spd. Until this video.

[@jltcasper3]

i wish it was still that color too, its the best in my opinion

[@JordanBarakt]

Definitely had a cab swap. I’ve done one the same thing to one

[@karol23982]

Needs new headlight too 🙌🏻

[@plumcreekfarms8138]

It has 99 and newer style cab lights.

[@drewmax-kl4oy]

That's what I was thinking. Those style cab lights are a 24v style. The bigger more rounded taller looking cab lights are 12v equipped trucks.

[@DDTHAMS]

Replace the headlights w some halogen lights

[@decentgarage]

Do you have a line on ones you'd recommend?

[@dieselfan16]

It would one hell of a project to see you "build/create" a second gen crew cab

[@decentgarage]

I'm always in the lookout for one that's already started 😁

[@dieselfan16]

The last one I saw was a red 2500 cummins in coral canyon subdivision down in ST GEORGE 2 years ago

[@jltcasper3]

Whats the date on the door sticker what month I have a 98 quad 12 made 10/97 Its a 98 i have the updated dash

[@darrellhay]

same here!

[@davidsimpson3744]

Mine too

[@decentgarage]

Production date 12/96 🤔

[@georgeenriquez612]

Nice score! That’s a cool dually, how many miles on her?

[@decentgarage]

Odo says 181k but I'm waiting for the carfax

[@428gearbender3]

That original color is pretty.

[@90TBD]

The seats and trim panels look like they are from a 98+?

[@decentgarage]

Seats and trim are 98+ but dash is 97...

[@90TBD]

@@decentgarage very interesting! I'm looking forward to watching what you find out!

[@carstenbuilds]

How many miles on her?

[@decentgarage]

I'll do an update on that. The Odo says 181...

[@freddydelgadoguzman7708]

Hola amigo cómo estás saludos acá de Austin Texas Freddy Delgado nice video saludos y bendiciones ánimo con tus proyectos

[@decentgarage]

Gracias amigo, I appreciate the support!

[@laisuresboringadventures7052]

My 98 has a hx30 what would I need to do to upgrade it to the hx35

[@decentgarage]

You're sure it has an hx30? Stock was an hx35. If yours truly is a 30 it would have a 3 inch exhaust outlet where as the 35 has a 3.5 in outlet.

[@laisuresboringadventures7052]

@ mine is a auto and it said hx 30 on the terbski when I looked at it after the head rebuilt

[@decentgarage]

@laisuresboringadventures7052 interesting. I'd measure the exhaust outlet. I've never seen an hx30 on one of these. I've never even heard of an hx30

[@brentjones5227]

Center console looks 97, but are the seats 98+?

[@mutantryeff]

That metal box thing you were trying to put a cigarette into is likely a cigarette rolling machine

[@decentgarage]

Well there you go! The more you know 🌈

[@Joe_Not_A_Fed]

The 24 valves went from 1998.5 to 2002...so 1998-1998.5, were probably built in 1997. Wow. Stock 5 speed, Ppump 12 valve, 4x4, longbox, dually. Unicorn, indeed. My brother is a body man with over 40 years in the biz...and he stretched his 2006 3500 single axle Cummins Mega Cab 4x4 to a long box, which I think doubled the value of his truck...not that he would ever sell it.

[@decentgarage]

That 2006 stretched mega cab would be a cool build!

[@Joe_Not_A_Fed]

@@decentgarage It wasn't that tough of a job. The frame was cut behind the front bed mounts. He has a frame rack so everything could be lined up perfectly to fit a stock long box. Wiring and brakes weren't very complicated. It looks like it rolled off of the factory floor.

[@JohnMccartyHTD4life]

Well I would take and ask your brother what color he would like and see if he'd like to paint it or even take in since it is rare find a rare item or things you can put on it to make it even more rare and more awesome

[@davidwright3390]

This thing is awesome

[@tvlarsen76]

It’s not a unicorn, it’s a hodgepodge Dodge.

[@laisuresboringadventures7052]

Something is fishy here cause Sam from v belt and sons says the last part of 98 is the half door cause my early 98 is a 2 door

[@decentgarage]

He is correct. Funny enough Sam is the first person I texted when I pulled out of there haha

[@davidsimpson3744]

My 98 12v is a quad cab. It's my understanding that late 98s were the 24 v..

[@laisuresboringadventures7052]

@ you have the 98.25 then my 98 is a 2 door

[@12ValveJalopy]

Quad cab was an option starting 98, the first half of 98s had 12Vs and the latter half switched to 24Vs. There are 98+ 12V and 24V trucks without rear doors, because the quad cab was an option.

[@dash456789]

New fuel filters, air filter, oil change, new headlights, remove all stickers

[@randyfowler6928]

Rare will be 4 full size doors

[@danimal0921]

The only thing that I can see that you are doing wrong with this truck is that you're gonna give it to your brother instead of me! 😂😂😂 That's an awesome truck. It's definitely a diamond in the rough, but any brother should be honored and thankful to be on the receiving end of this plan!!!

[@decentgarage]

That's the plan!

[@wesleybrowning504]

Leave that intake that’s an aftermarket. Factory is junk. I would do the b.a.f on it. Ford 6.0 filer and sock.

[@wyo_garage20]

There’s nothing wrong with the factory intake. What a foolish thing to say🤣

[@TheSiraffe]

Hey brother I sent you an email about those door panels

[@decentgarage]

I'll check my inbox and get back to you ASAP!

[@TheSiraffe]

@thanks brother!

[@ratracewelding6935]

I owned a '98 12 valve 5 speed dually. I'd buy another if it came across my plate. I currently have 2 '97 12 valve 5 speeds.

[@BrandonLeech]

Get rid of that dorky steering wheel cover

[@decentgarage]

Already did... And put a better one on 😂

[@jameswinzer2454]

you might ACTUALLY have the rarest 2nd gen ever! great find man love the truck and love the chanel

[@decentgarage]

I hope you're right! I'm excited to dive into this project

[@wyo_garage20]

Not a factory truck

[@davidsimpson3744]

Sounds like the fuel pump timing gear slipped. In stock form turbos hold up well.

[@davidsimpson3744]

Somebody bone headed that turbo line.

[@CooperTheHunter]

16:22 The people behind your are probably going "what an idiot". Hopefully if it pissed them of they see this and understand you aren't trying to roll coal.

[@mattvanatti9531]

Dodge means to avoid

[@playanddisplay3636]

Click baiters get blocked. Hope it helps the algorithm.

[@johnperun232]

I know what you can do with it sell it's to me

[@wyo_garage20]

This is not rare, it’s not a factory truck. It’s a slapped together piece.