Did Shane Dawson Get It Right? | Eugenia Interview & Eating Disorders

This video answers the questions: Can I discuss the Shane Dawson - Eugenia Cooney video about eating disorder support? Can somebody with an eating disorder truly not realize how thin they are? Are eating disorders a type of delusional disorders? Shane Dawson released a video about Eugenia Cooney in which she interviews her about her experiences during treatment for an eating disorder. Shane Dawson has help from Kati Morton, who advises him on how to approach the interview with sensitivity.
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[@megangriffith9630]

I felt like Shane’s documentary was a fluff piece that really didn’t answer any deep questions about Eugenia.

[@susieaintyourfr]

I think Shane got deeper than he was allowed to, thanks to his luck and humble personality. You can’t get all the answers together. Especially if you don’t want anybody being hurt and consider yourself kind and polite.Life don’t work that way.

[@Aristaifly]

I think so too. For me, it was clear that she didn't trust him. He should have come couple times prior without camera, just friendly talk to open her up a little bit. His comments in the bathroom made me uncomfortable. I had a feeling he is there for the interview not for her. I understand that none of us were born with knowledge of this matter, so the spending more time to feel comfortable for both sides were necessary in my opinion.

[@xLostInFirex]

She mentioned in her own video that she doesn't want to go into details/private info. Also her lawyer was there

[@ivazzzz688]

I feel like every video he does is like that.

[@NormaLilia24]

LostInFire I agree but she shouldn’t have said that she was good with any questions if she was going to end up refraining from answering them

[@sonasierra7824]

“So I just sit there and worry” Same, Dr Grande, same

[@kellie5476]

The people who think it's okay to tell sufferers to "go eat a burger", need to be educated properly, all this false pretence of 'caring' for someone by tearing them down further, is disgusting. Thanks for your brilliant insight Dr Grande.

[@HumanimalChannel]

agree. and the unhelpful ones sometimes 'professionals' and 'experts' who think they've seen heard and know it all who make assumptions about why you're a certain way. shuts down real ...oh god..."dialogue" as fast as a door slamming in the wind.

[@kaybee187]

Seriously

[@Lizzypoohxo]

I have never had an eating disorder but being very thin I have heard that my entire life. If it was as easy as eating a burger I would eat 5 a day lol. Unfortunately I am just naturally very thin even after having 3 kids and gaining 75 pounds my first two pregnancies and 40 pounds in my third.

[@anyalaASMR]

@@Lizzypoohxo Me too! Constantly heard stuff like that. Ironically I remember it most from my friend’s overweight mother. Like, ma’am I’m just small and built like this, you don’t need to comment on my body. 🤨

[@kenzaaaaaaa]

I'll probably get crucified for what Im about to say, but telling us to go eat a burger is like telling an overweight / morbidly obese person to "just eat less / stop eating as much", to me it's the exact same, to a lot of others I should feel lucky to be thin and UNABLE to gain weight even when I need it

[@ClandestineGirl16X]

I really like Eugenia. But i worry shes pretending to be better. I only speculate because i have an ed as well and know the games. But i hope shes ok. I also dont know how to feel about Kati.

[@tarekhammami4813]

Agree on both counts .

[@AmethystEyes]

me too but I think it is an important step, her admitting that she has a problem.

[@emialice3825]

100% agree, I think she gained just enough weight to be let out and told everyone that she realises now that she needs to take better care of herself etc. Etc. A month isn’t long enough for anyone to recover from an ED that severe and I think as a professional Kati should have advised Shane of that and told him it’s too soon for a “recovery” story

[@julezett]

Emi Alice I was thinking the same: Isn‘t a month a really really short amount of time of being inpatient for an ed? I‘m not from the US, so I don‘t know the medical system there, but in Germany you would be inpatient for 2-3 month at least, perhaps half a year or more. And she looked alarmingly thin still.

[@SilverScorpio17]

Have you seen Jaclyn Glenn's video? She was touching on that point

[@rd57f]

Thank you so much for talking about this topic, Dr. Grande. I'm an anorexia nervosa survivor, so when I saw the title of this video, I knew I had to click on it right away. You are absolutely right when you say that anorexics don't necessarily think that they are fat or obese: I remember I used to focus on the shape of my legs and my hips every time I looked at myself in the mirror. I knew I was not fat. That was very clear to me. I could see that, especially when someone was next to me (when they stood next to me, they looked quite big), but I was never satisfied. I wanted to be thinner. I wanted my body to be extremely thin. Basically I wanted to die. I was raped when I was a child, and I couldn't get over that trauma. I was diagnosed with depression, and the only thing that made me feel "in control of my life" was anorexia nervosa. When things got worse, I tried to kill myself; I was only 21 years old at the time. The whole thing was a nightmare. I was too thin and too depressed. I really thought I would never get out of it. But now, seven years later, I'm a healthy woman. I'm a Spanish teacher with a Master's degree. I'm *alive*, which feels like a miracle. I've learned to love myself. It was a long process, and the treatment was quite expensive, but it was completely worth it. I think it's very important to talk about these disorders, and to have people realize that eating disorders and depression are as real as diabetes or cancer. Mental health disorders are difficult to treat and they can kill you, and most cannot beat them by themselves. I still don't know how I managed to survive given how ill I was. All I know is that I'm still here, and stronger than ever. Again, thank you for making this video. I just gave it a thumbs up. I wish I could do more than that. Your channel is great, and this video is one of my favorites. Keep up the great work! BTW, pardon my English; it's not my native language.

[@ladymopar2024]

Me too agree also, mirror my story! I went on to get my masters as well

[@wilsonclaire3352]

I'm so glad you recovered and got the help you needed. And I'm so sorry that you experienced that trauma as a child. But I'm sure you will continue to thrive! I wish you all the best, and you're in my prayers!:)

[@Peytonscomet]

Your English is great! I'm happy you're still here 💕

[@JulesWebloft]

Well said! Outsiders who are desperate to help and who mostly fail misunderstand that it is about „making them eat“. It is more about disappearing from the face of the earth and to try to control at least one aspect of their lives (when everything around seems to be chaotic).

[@louisepeacock3953]

Rape is an adult term, you precious lady, were sexually abused as you were a child. Blessings and much love your way.

[@Angie-zk4ei]

I'm worried about Eugenia saying "I HAD an eating disorder" and "I WAS going through an eating disorder". She's not recovered overnight, and it's scary that she's pretending it's all in the past. I hope she's really doing good. And I'm also concerned about her living with her mother. Her mother OPPOSED her going to the doctor and then to a recovery center. And she always told her she was completely fine and she had nothing to worry about. And the mother was in the house when Shane came, but left in a rush so as not to be seen in the video. Her friends say Eugenia never leaves the house without her mother watching her or their driver, who always waits outside. So... I don't know. What do you think about that, doctor Grande? Do you think it's healthy for a person with an eating disorder to live in that environment?

[@tasmaniandevil6750]

Have you ever read the book titled the best little girl in the world? At any rate, a “good” girl who isn’t comfortable being a mature grown up, a sexual person and other adult characteristics is like the anorexic archetype.

[@angelabaird7135]

Tasmanian Devil makes sense what you’re saying about that archetype. But do you think someone like EC could be forced into remaining in the “good girl” zone due to her mother demanding she play that role. I’ve heard she is guilted into not “upsetting” her mother and brother. In the video there were locks on the doors and windows and EC didn’t appear to know how to operate things in her own house. She doesn’t drive herself anywhere, etc. Do you think her kinda co-dependent guilt led role in the family is forcing her to remain in this state? Or do you think she, herself displayed needy codependent tendencies and her mother is and was unequipped to discipline and push her to go outside her comfort zone? In her Draw My Life she seemed to indicate that her mother would spoil her and basically just do what EC wanted. Do you have a strong insight or opinion or do you think it’s a combo of all these factors. Based on Jacklyn glen and her friends it really seems that the mother has extremely controlling tendencies. It’s just weird that we don’t see that play out on camera in their interactions. The mom doesn’t seem bosy or like she’s running the show too much. Maybe it’s because it’s EC channel so she has to follow her lead??

[@SabiLewSounds]

I think on the channel the mother is playing a role trying to look like a "cool and loving mom" but she manipulates her daughter

[@DH-ve5bl]

They have 12 step groups for eating disorders like they do with alcoholism . In Alcoholics Anonymous you are always considered a “recovering “ alcoholic no matter how many years you are off the stuff. The same should be said for eating disorders.

[@reign6of6e6terror]

Where tell her mother Eugenia was completely fine????

[@The.Cult.Of.Vintage]

Unfortunately given the severity of the subject, I end up questioning the overall intent of the video(Shane's), when a medical professional is not more fully incorporated into the conversation. It was a "pretty picture" but I question the substance. That girl seems so incredibly sweet I wish her the very best, but am more concerned with the far reaching, young, viewership of the video. It was, frankly, uninformative.

[@satunbreeze]

I disagree because of several reasons. Firstly, this was only the first video where she speaks about this issue, before this she was completely in denial and it may take her more time to be more open. She only just now started improving and its asking a lot to expect her to completely open up. Secondly, she doesn't owe the world or the audience anything, and while it is moral imo for her to tell everyone that what she was doing was unhealthy, she doesn't owe us details. And lastly, it was informative, it just may not have been all that helpful to people going through an eating disorder. In definitely not going to say it wont help them at all though, because Eugenia did offer some words of encouragement, and having so many people and Shane himself act extremely supportive helps a lot imo. Mostly though, I think a big part of the video was showing people how to interact with someone going through this. Katie especially gives a LOT of helpful advice where she mentions that you shouldnt comment on her appearance at all, try not to ask too invasive of questions, dont ask too frequently/too many, and remember that even though they have the disorder, it isn't their only feature and that theyre a person too, and they should be treated with respect. A majority of people watching do not have anorexia or bulimia, so it makes sense to cater towards these people, and maybe even change their minds about how to handle people with disorders like this, especially since so many people were so misguided before, and even still kinda are. So imo, Shane did exactly what he needed to, and now we have created a dialogue about this, coming from KZbin's sweetheart.

[@The.Cult.Of.Vintage]

@@satunbreeze I appreciate what you're saying. However, I don't view it through the lens of "Shane's a great guy". Given the further information on the "how" Euginna begain her journey, and the information of Katie knowing beforehand, and still providing "advice", it does make me question the intent of the video. I am viewing it critically, which is my main problem with the video as a whole. It is Euginna's story to tell, but the narrative is in, IMO, question. It is great that she ended up in treatment, but given the severity of it, a 1 hour video and a guest appearance on her channel is just painting a picture. It is not the reality. Shane has a massive young viewership and without seeking the appropriate medical knowledge the video does, in fact, gloss over many important and potentially harmful, if not deadly, effects of eatting disorders. The severity of this issues warrants more than a "feel good" video.

[@ayaa.1351]

I'm very worried about her being with / near her mother.

[@satunbreeze]

@@The.Cult.Of.Vintage Hm, I suppose you're right. I wouldnt say I know enough about eating disorders to really say that they missed information that should be been vital, but I still stand in my belief that Eugenia doesnt have to be the person to tell the full story. My suggestion would probably be to promote people such as Katie so that people can watch her videos and have more information on what eating disorders are, if you have one, and how to cope. Maybe he couldve put that at the end of the video alongside the hotline?

[@horrorpill]

Shane by no means a "good guy". Heck, he probably do it for the views, who knows. BUT it is also partly good for Eugenia's road to heal. It will lessen the bullies and hate with Shane's platform. I assumed, going forward, she will get more positive comments now, which in turn will help her self-esteem and hopefully recovery. Those hate comments she received was way too nasty.

[@nicoleschmidt7480]

Your forehead is literally flawless. It looks airbrushed. Lol. You have nice skin

[@orandachildren1051]

Forehead airbrushing disorder.

[@theupwardspiral1580]

@@orandachildren1051 i laughed for about 3 min straight about your comment. Well played.

[@JennRighter]

Omg it is. I never noticed that, now I’m captivated!

[@Luziemagick]

@@JennRighter me, too..hahaha

[@nicholeocornes543]

So funny

[@18pristine]

She was in a 5150, and was released after getting a bit better, seems like shes going back to what she used to do on youtube and streaming. My guess is she is going to relapse especially being back in the house with her parents.

[@lamsy1]

I have seen a remark on Instagram where someone commented that she was on Twitch for nearly 4 hours and did not take one sip of water or have a bathroom break. She needs to keep hydrated and eat (in the way she was advised to) :)

[@Lady-Carmakazi]

She was released to early

[@XYZ-kb3mm]

carmakazi84 insurance won’t pay for more than a month.

[@Lady-Carmakazi]

@@XYZ-kb3mm yes, it's not right, all about the money & not about our health. Makes one want to ask the docs to readmit a couple of days after the first stay in order to get full & complete care. Insurance companies are running everything and they really don't care if we live or die unless they have a life insurance policy to pay out, sickening. I can tell she's not fully recovered because of the way she's covering herself with the baggie clothing. Hopefully her friends & family will help her get through the struggles. Hate to see anyone go through so much. I've lost 2 people to bulimia & another's very ill, bleeding internally right now. All childhood school friends. We grew up thinking everyone had to be skinny. My other childhood friend has anorexia, she looks very weak like she could be blown over with a feather. Eating disorders are to be taken very serious. Shane's video could actually be part of what helps her recover because everyone's fighting FOR & WITH her to win this battle, the world will be looking out for her because of his video.

[@Legal.Knievel]

@@Lady-Carmakazi she stayed voluntarily longer than the requirement

[@NicolePoliskey]

Thank you for this. There was never any mention of the effects of long term starvation especially on the brain. I suffered with Anorexia for over 20 years and it is safe to say I had brain damage, so severe I no longer wanted food. Once I received nutrition, over a long period of 9 months, it was only then my brain healed enough for me to see clearly. This "documentary" I fear may do more harm than good to young sufferers. Especially with its spreading of the message that Eugenia was perfectly healthy after starving for years.

[@lizbitsmith9706]

Nicole Poliskey It’s actually sickening the way they portrayed anorexic as if it’s something like HPV that you catch and don’t realize that you have.

[@NicolePoliskey]

@@lizbitsmith9706 I agree completely xx

[@macros247]

Recovering anorexic here. I didn't realise I was too thin until my brother and his wife had their first child. He was 2 weeks old and I couldn't hold him in my arms or above my head for more than 30 seconds and it just hit me like a train that I wasn't just skinny, I was weak and malnutritioned. I hadn't weighed myself at that point for years and when I stepped on the scales at last I weighed 53kg. I'm a 6ft2in guy, my BMI was 14.7. Now I'm back up to 72kg (GO ME!!!) and life is steadily improving. I can still rarely eat but whole milk is magical stuff. Regarding how Shanes doc with Eugenia. I think he did really well and approached the situation with empathy and care and the understanding of someone who's been in her situation. He did really well. Great documentary. Really enjoying your analysis too!

[@catherinewilson8896]

Well done! Can I ask, were you intentionally restricting? Or did you just not feel hungry? I know everyone's case is different.

[@mik-exe-]

Thrilled to read you have come so far in your recovery. Every little step helps. You’ve come so far by your own recorded details. Keep it up!

[@lizbitsmith9706]

Wait were you obese or anorexic? I’m sorry I can’t keep track!

[@laurak2610]

@@lizbitsmith9706 a BMI of 14 is severely underweight. Edit: just reread the comment, he mentioned that he was a recovering anorexic.

[@lizbitsmith9706]

Elle Kaye yeah but he said in another comment on KZbin that he was obese

[@Wildswampcrab]

Your brain is so organized!! You're always like "we'll talk about that in a few moments" and like clockwork you pick back up!! You inspire me in school!

[@watermelonwishes4193]

Right?? I'm so jealous. I can't do that anymore. My short term memory is horrible, to the point of requesting a test. My dr (med nurse actually) says it's from depression/anxiety/PTSD. It keeps getting worse though. In mid coversation I have to ask what we were talking about.

[@crystald3655]

@@watermelonwishes4193 I live with depression, anxiety and PTSD and my short term memory is not good either. I have to write everything down in some way or I won't remember.

[@watermelonwishes4193]

@@crystald3655 Isn't it frustrating? 💗

[@crystald3655]

@@watermelonwishes4193 Yes, I put a lot of time and energy into keeping my disk bound planner up to date and still figuring out a system that works for me.

[@beejavaid4512]

Hear, hear. I'm happy if I don't walk out without pants

[@lidahall5928]

I feel that while Shane Dawson obviously really _meant_ well - this video was done too soon. I was dismayed by the fact that the whole narrative that Eugenia (or anyone else for that matter) could possibly be "recovered" from an ED after fewer than 6 months was never challenged, although of course it's good to see that she, or her handlers, were willing to establish "boundaries". I appreciate that at least he made the effort to portray her as a multifaceted human being, because she has had individuals on the Internet attempt to reduce her to nothing more than her putative diagnosis, which I have to admit is something which really bothered me. That said: I'm all too aware of the morbidities & mortality rate involved with an ED and how refractory it is to treatment. I really hope that Eugenia continues to work on her recovery because it seemed to me that she was keen to portray it as something she'd "put in the past" which, realistically, is probably a fairly dangerous way for her to approach things. I'd like to be told if I'm wrong about this.

[@Jen18812]

Totally agree with you.

[@teresahowick5197]

Couldn’t agree more

[@lidahall5928]

@@bringingoutthedead3079 Yeah, I've seen the longer video and was upset by how much vitriol was heaped upon someone (in the comment section) for just explaining what went on. To be honest, I had suspected that something like that had taken place & am equally concerned about the day-to-day life/dynamic that EC has with her mother...

[@caroline-s]

@@bringingoutthedead3079 Bringing Out the Dead are you jaclyn? Why are you spamming sooo many comment sections for video views? It makes me doubt those videos and belive those stories must be invented to make money off of Eugenias mental health issues.

[@cutelittleReis90]

Eugenia even said one time in the sth. Lime "as someone that had an eating disorder", it's like she really put it already in the past

[@sweetbabyannacheekz]

Shane always does this he hypes everyone up on his “documentaries” but never covers really anything just basically glosses over the positive there goal was to help people but she couldn’t even say which disorder she had so this tells me it was way to early for her to do this she was not ready 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@sweetbabyannacheekz]

red shoes honestly yeah he’s a nice guy in a way but even himself admitted in the video he did not see Eugenia in five years maybe he texted or something but if he was so scared and concerned you would go to that person 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@letstalktea2688]

I agree. He needs to stop talking about mental health and he should really go to school for journalism.

[@christina74829]

Anonymous Buttercup Maybe Shane should go take classes for journalism and psychology. Everyone looks up to him now as if he’s the KZbin “Dr. Phil” when he’s obviously not. Kati is more qualified than he is.

[@bimbette4892]

Eugenia said she's worried about being triggering for other people who are struggling with an eating disorder. She's also worried about coming off as knowing more than she does because she is still so new into her recovery.

[@XYZ-kb3mm]

Christina Carpenter Kati is qualified but she still talks like she read a WebMD description of Anorexia. Not helpful

[@misse7154]

Thank you also for taking on the topic of eating disorders. As you underline, they are deadly. A very close friend of mine died from a battle with anorexia for over 20 years. She had completely isolated herself, and was found dead in her apartment. You mentioned how to support someone with an eating disorder- my friend had lived off and on with me and my family throughout high school, college, and after college. When she was staying with me and I was studying overseas, I was so concerned that she wouldn't have someone to watch out for her and worried that she might die when I was away. I recall going to the student health center and asking what I could do as a friend. I distinctly remember them turning it around on me, and feeling like "what's wrong with you that you're so concerned with her". I came away feeling defeated, and I think to this day still harbor some guilt and shame for not having done something. I'm also angry that my genuine appeal for help was completely dismissed by the mental health community at the time.

[@BagelBagelBagel]

I feel that. I am autistic and mental health is one of my special interests. Before I had my autism diagnosis both myself and others dismissed my deep concerns over the extent of undiagnosed mental illnesses in my friends, family. My desire to alleviate the suffering of those around me was flipped back to me as a "compulsion", as if educating myself and applying the knowledge and my own personal experience with mental illness was a ritual constructed to temporarily reduce anxiety😕😕. I hope you are able to see the parallels I saw with your experience. I am so sorry you lost your friend to ED. You did the best you could. Thanks for sharing 💓💓

[@anthonyramirez7272]

I’m so sorry for your loss. I can only imagine how you felt. Thank you for sharing your story 🙂 It means a lot

[@DrGrande]

You are most welcome -

[@misse7154]

@@BagelBagelBagel I can relate to everything that you mention. Having grown up with a parent, sibling, and then a spouse with a Cluster B personality disorder, I was so CPTSD'd, depressed, scared, confused, and utterly demoralized that the only way I could learn to trust myself was to understand psychopathology and where others' problems ended and where mine began. Much of my life I've had to accept more responsibility than I think I've needed to or should for others' bad behavior. So learning about mental conditions has been very important. Now that I'm a much more mature and articulate adult, the practitioners I've interfaced with (with one exception) have been very responsive to me. However, there have been friends and family who dismiss my "compulsion" suggesting that it's unhealthy and it's making me mentally ill. When you've endured a lifetime of trauma, wouldn't it be advisable to better understand how it happened as so you can take charge and ideally not let it keep happening? Unlike others, I take active efforts to own my shit. But I think too many people are quick to judge, and derail those who are trying to be conscientious about how they live their life. Of course, Dr. Grande, if you have any thoughts or experience about this, it would be very welcome!

[@mariobros4648]

I'm curious in what you think about Jaclyn's video. Because she like you was a friend, who is still is worry.

[@lint212]

Eugenia has relapsed and it seems like her weight loss is more alarming than it was before. You can actually see each individual bone outline in her arms. Someone has to help her.

[@lciav]

I checked her videos too and was sad to see she relapsed. I really hope she can get help and overcome it... it’s disturbing how serious an illness it is and it’s sad to see someone suffer from it...

[@amybess]

RIGHT?!

[@lint212]

@@amybess I just saw her new clothing haul video and I am so sad. She relapsed big time and will die soon if she doesn't get help.

[@paulipaz]

She's still in complete denial and still talks and behaves much younger than her actual age. I hear her talk and she sounds like a child, not only in her high pitch vocal range but in her use of language-her limited vocabulary. Her Twitch followers have asked her about her mental health and she says she's great, as always. Sad. And I've seen comments from people stating that they're either 1) triggered by the content or b) wish they were as skinny as her. I reported her latest "cosplay" video which is another body check for her.

[@lint212]

After her stint in 'rehab', she stopped that high pitched, young talk and spoke like an adult. When she reverts to that behavior, its also a clue that she has relapsed, besides her shriveled appearance.

[@LadyandtheScamp4Ever]

Eugenia doesn’t have much time. Her body has already been very damaged for a long time. I’ve seen it in rehab I used to work at a girl got complete nerve damage in her calves & needed a colostomy bag due to major damage in her intestines & a catheter due to major bladder & kidney damage, plus a pace maker for heart muscle damage 😭❤️

[@lipglos1]

Eugenia's case seem's so serious, really thankful that you shed some light on this, I hope she is on her way to health. I really hope she is not triggered in any way by his video

[@misse7154]

Dr. Grande- I understand that it must be a difficult tension in "sitting by in the sidelines" and getting involved in advocacy to reach more viewers. I appreciate your observational approach, which lends to your credibility. That said, I think you're brilliant and hope that you'll get more engaged. I really love your collaborational videos, and hope to see you team up with more content creators to grow your reach.

[@DrGrande]

Thank you so much for those kind words!!

[@misse7154]

@@DrGrande I think I speak for many of your followers that you are the superstar of KZbin that we need. If you look at the popularity of Katie Morton, and lay persons (some of which are more or less scrupulous) such as the Rewired Soul, Shane Dawson, Richard Grannon, Sam Vaknin, etc. People desperately want and need to learn about mental health- whether it's understanding themselves, or perhaps their friends, family, or co-workers. After following your content, I genuinely have a hard time watching others' ,as yours is so much more meticulously-researched and articulated. I find that there is so much content out there that is factually incorrect and often misleading. This is just not helpful to anyone!

[@misse7154]

@@DrGrande Because I'm already having a Dr. Grande lovefest moment, I also want to commend you on the very constructive conversations you create, and the amazing community you have here. Before you, I never got involved in commenting on KZbin (hard to believe, right?). Not only have I learned so much and felt supported directly by the work you do, but all of your followers as well. I recently made the mistake of commenting and voicing my support on a Vice video about women who terminated unviable pregnancies and the stigmatization they received. I also included in my comment that I had also had a similar experience - which was deeply traumatic and personally sensitive. Of course others took the opportunity to pounce on me and start grandstanding. I was appalled with the lack of humanity and respect! learned my lesson to not get involved with the "wrong" crowd! I can't believe how comfortable I've gotten with sharing my experiences here, and the level or responsiveness and conscientiousness of others'. I feel safe to voice my thoughts and experiences. And in the Wild Wild West of KZbin, I think that say a lot! So to all you 97K followers- YOU ROCK TOO!

[@caroline-s]

@@bringingoutthedead3079 are you jaclyn? Why are you spamming sooo many comment sections for video views? It makes me doubt those videos and belive those stories must be invented to make money off of Eugenias mental health issues.

[@halloanto2461]

@@DrGrande will you consider discussing Karen Carpenter please.

[@NicolePoliskey]

Please do more videos on Eating Disorders. I really think you were very good at explaining things.

[@Hawaiianstyle65]

I agree

[@michiyomyv]

I would be very interested in your thoughts about her situation a year later! please consider making a video about her again

[@hannahwhitney6543]

I’ve had an eating disorder for 11 years. It’s so complex and even I can’t even understand it myself at times. Thank you for for this brilliant explanation and your sensitivity. You opened my eyes to the danger of my illness and that I still can fight to get my life back. Love your work as always.

[@anthonyramirez7272]

I really resonate with eating disorders. For the last few years, I’ve struggled with self-image and have had a fear of gaining weight. I started restricting how much I was eating and it only went downhill from there. It got to the point where my parents were concerned that I was becoming underweight and the lasting effects that would have. I haven’t been diagnosed with any eating disorder by my therapist or psychiatrist, but I’m still struggling with how much I eat a day. I just want to say that it’s great to talk about eating disorders when we can because the worst thing is that no one talks about it and it goes unnoticed for a long time, even beyond the point of it being too late. Great video!

[@andiward7068]

@@elainelouve "Dis ordered" eating. Rather than eating in an 'ordered' ie: eating food when needed for sustenance.

[@hellomickey6166]

Oh my God , that is what happen to me right now. I don’t have idea if this is eating disorders, because I’m not underweight, my BMI 19 , I’ve been restricting food for 4 months, my weight drop and everyone in my family was shocked. Now I didn’t lose any weight but I still restricting , I knew my metabolism is destroyed , I have to repair it with eat more but I just can’t , I only let myself feel full once at day, and vegetable or fruits at evening, and I take laxatives too. And I have biggest fear : gaining weight. It’s stress me out and I realize I need help.

[@Estelle-Maureen]

As a clinician, it pained me to watch Shane's video on many levels. That being said, after years of watching Eugenia waste away, it was good to see her healthy.

[@Wezzy92]

I have some views on the video won't lie I wish someone could speak to me where I'm wrong or right and if I should push my narrative or learn to approach it differently on m y thoughts. I have mix feelings on the video but I'm not sure how I would talk to someone about it. I know I wouldn't talk to them straight away unless it's a short answer and I either back out quick or tell them they don't have to tell me. I maybe be curious afterwards but I learn to let it go unless something in my life happens that reminds me of that or I want to give it a try to figure out the truth. Guilty but I still want to know how Eugenia handles things later and how shane is going to do with other people involved. Do you think it's right for people to fight or push strong opinions about Eugenia? It's actually kind of awkward now I really think about it.

[@teresahowick5197]

How is she healthy? She’s in the very beginning stages if at all. She’s not even close. I wish her the very best.

[@Estelle-Maureen]

@@teresahowick5197 more like healthier... More oriented... Less emaciated... Acknowledging that she has a problem... Being engaged in treatment etc. That's all great progress. God bless her.

[@Estelle-Maureen]

@red shoes agreed :)

[@beans9019]

You are so beautifully intelligent and articulate yourself so well. I’m sure you’ve been through years of school but it’s refreshing to see someone who actually knows what they’re talking about here on KZbin.

[@sourpatchkid311]

So excited I found your channel. I’m always looking for reputable mental health channels to watch and learn from, as I am studying psychology in college.

[@Stella-ro8oz]

I liked the video. I hope people try to understand how necessary the sensitivity is even if you won’t get all of the details. It was the only eating disorder video I’ve ever watched that didn’t trigger me. Eating disorders can be very competitive at times and it’s really hard for me to watch the ones that don’t do such a good job and not get ideas from them.

[@leosuniverse]

I honestly got ideas from the karen carpenter story. Should they ban it? no. Should ppl be aware that can happen? ya. We were seeking a way out of the bullying part of things. On top of my other comment here. The topic back then was dont stare of them. Don't say anything. We still see this. No reason to attack the person. I felt it was better to do a clip in relation about my self. In case it triggers them and goes oh I relate to that. Let me hear. Kind of that process that helped me. People talking about dead runway models. Weird but that's how it came about and ended. Forced my attn.

[@hollyballantyne7928]

Hello Dr Grande, I would be interested in learning more about the difference between the body dysmorphia experienced by individuals in the transgender community vs. Those experienced by: excessive plastic surgery, body builders, those who suffer with continued body shaming. I am failing to see the line of distinction due to my own ignorance. I look forward to being enlightened. Ps I enjoy your series greatly thank you for taking the time to share. 🙏

[@cutelittleReis90]

I already read from some people who deal with ED that they got really triggered. One also mentioned it might romanticize the situation and people calling her healthy now doesn't help either

[@Alice-si8uz]

Even if she isn't wasting away she still looks on the thin side ...

[@qwhlftoGLGEKHN]

I didn’t realize it was so expensive for treatment for these disorders. I find that very sad. Who can afford that. No wonder people don’t get treatment. They can’t afford it if they wanted to get treatment.

[@Kay-cp8tg]

Yup. I’ve made the realization several times that it’s cheaper to die.

[@ajordan1976]

The subject of this video can and refuses to get help. That enrages me. So many people need help and can't afford to get help. She ca$hing in on her disorder.

[@julesmbc]

My husband, and had the binge/purge type... he self checked into rehab for alcohol use almost 30 years ago, and was kicked out, for taking a pack of top ramen (told on, by someone who was court committed), just as they were beginning to address his disordered eating 😔 To this day, he binges, but hasn't purged but maybe once or twice, the 12 years we have been together. He went to CBT, after a work accident in 2013, and has only binged a handful of times since then, so it definitely helped; but it is so sad, that it's often overlooked, especially in men. Hope anyone who is dealing with/or has a loved one dealing with, knows they aren't alone. If love could fix all of our problems, they wouldnt exist.💔

[@mandy-yn3sh]

Thank you for touching on the truly deadly nature of this illness. I think it's also important to know that EDs are not a decision someone makes; sure, they may make the conscious effort to restrict food at first to (improperly) cope with stressors or perceived unhappiness with one's body, but the deadly part is how gradually it takes over the mind, to the point where you truly don't understand the severity of your illness until someone else intervenes, and by then you are so "comfortable" with your habits that the idea of disrupting them with treatment is incredibly disturbing. While I still have physical damage to this day done in my few years of anorexia that I have to live with, I am so grateful I was able to get help and recover when I did, this illness is truly serious.

[@hearmymotoredheart]

Fitting that the Up Next generated after a video on Eugenia is "Nine Signs of the Narcissistic Mother"

[@LCx829]

Dont you think this interview was done too soon after rehab? I would give the girl a chance to get better.

[@brimmyburner7530]

Right. Relapse will come and then her naive young fans will drag her for it.. not knowing how addiction works..

[@andiward7068]

She felt the need to let ppl know she was recovering.

[@Urmom-co2ro]

to be honest i know when i see someone with an obvious and advanced stage of an eating disorder, myself having suffered from 3 different eating disorders for 12 years, and when someone is recovering from one. and i also know when someone *isn't* recovering. or properly at least. in Eugenia Cooney's case i am pretty darn sure she isn't. i know i have never seen her in real life nor do i know her by any other way other than her exposure on social media. but from what i see, what anyone else ca n see, is that she just gained a couple of pounds, probably pressured by someone, don't ask me who, her lawyer, her parents.. i have no clue, but she will probably loose it again in less than a few months. people call this recovery but this isn't one whatsoever.

[@yazansakran3326]

Dude, your content is great for educational purposes 👍👍👍

[@DrGrande]

Thank you!

[@serenephobia]

Oh my gosh... hearing the statistics, I feel so grateful that I was lucky enough to have long term inpatient treatment for anorexia as a teenager. I had no idea it was so rare and so lethal. It has taken years for me to feel as good as I do about myself today but I’m SO GRATEFUL to be out of the extremely dark place I was in.

[@purrbugaloo]

I think the Shane video was more about reintroducing her to You Tube in a way that she felt protected. So glad for the progress she has made. Off topic... the fact that Katie called her clients "patients" is hierarchical and not conducive to reducing reticence to counseling in my opinion of course. She tends to make absolute pronouncements with no caveats. That concerns me as people have accepted the unquestionable expert she presents herself as. She says many helpful things and does help people I am sure. My concern is when people have more confidence yet less reliance on what the peer reviewed journals indicate. The more you know, the less likely you are to believe you know absolutes in my experience. In my doctoral program we discussed the labeling of clients and client is the preferred, and in my opinion more accurate and helpful term. I dare say it says something about a person if they choose the word patient. Thank you for your astuteness and the work you put into your videos. You come across as educational, caring, balanced, and with no ulterior motives of wanting to have your own talk show and public status. If that were to happen, great, but I don't sense that it is your driving force. I feel protective of people when they are vulnerable or I wouldn't have pontificated about this. I sincerely appreciate that a professional of your caliber and nature is willing to educate all of us. I am not trying to be a kiss ass. I also could be wrong about my perception of Katie and focusing too much on possible blind spots any of us might have. I just want people to know every therapist is unique, all are trying to do a good job, and nobody is perfect. Some clinicians are better suited to the job than others. If Katie helps you, great. If Dr. Grande helps you, great. Whatever is healing for you is what we hope for.

[@teresahowick5197]

purr bugaloo great analysis. I agree

[@Estelle-Maureen]

Agreed regarding Katie.

[@alessandrad5119]

what do you mean when you write "it says something about a person if they choose the word patient"?

[@radmilatodorovic8335]

I do think that Eugenia wanted to this not Shane. And it was a good way for her to come back to KZbin. Easier than her having to make video about it. She wouldn't be able to explain or talk about it at all if she was alone. Shane really did a good job and I think his new vidoes are pretty bad and he doesn't know how to do an interview, but in this case it was pretty good. That is what she needed at this moment. Maybe in a year or two she will be able to talk more openly about it.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

Ale D. I’d also like to know this... I am a patient when I go to therapy just like when I go to my doctor, what’s the issue there?

[@emmiedring8178]

As someone who went through severe anorexia throughout high school and possibly middle school. I went from 140 pounds at the age of 15 to 100 pounds at the age of 18 and because of the way I went about it, I now deal with life long affects from it, and still deal with battling with it to this day with the thoughts of perfection and wanting to be "beautiful". It is so frustrating!

[@mygirldarby]

Did something traumatic happen in the year leading up to you becoming anorexic? I've noticed there's two main reasons someone becomes anorexic. One, chronic controlling mothers. Or two, traumatic experience that precedes obsessive thoughts about weight. The first type I think is what Eugenia is dealing with. Her mother controls her whole life. In my view only, it seems harder to overcome anorexia when it is a chronic case of parental manipulation and control. If it is a singular traumatic event, the feelings can be unlocked and purged with treatment. With a controlling mother, things are harder and more complicated, but of course treatment can still help. I think it is just a longer road to recovery in that instance. I'm sure tthere are other causes. I'm just talking about what I've personally noticed about this eating disorder.

[@emmiedring8178]

@@mygirldarby Oh yes, very much so! My Mother is EXTREMELY controlling and very abusive and in my senior year I was S Ad, which just made it that much worse. I just simply don't wish this upon ANYONE! Eugenia deserves compassion and understanding and respect too, and it makes me sad that she's stuck ALLEGEDLY in a cycle.

[@ebenn403]

I like how you are starting to bring people and events from pop culture into your discussions and framing things so you’re focusing on the facts and opportunities for education. I think you’re doing a good job at doing this in a way that keeps it interesting without making these things into a spectacle for drama. I also like how you make disclaimers before speculating about the situation and often clarify the reason for using speculation or hypotheticals as a tool to help put the topic into context. When I see you do this I think it’s really good how you make sure that you clarify if you’re speaking about the person/situation or if you’re speaking about the overall issue. Good job, good approach. Keep it up. I really appreciate what you’re doing here.

[@agentargent5127]

I very much disagree that this was any different than Shane's other youtuber vids, Kati was much better, but I think this is only logical as it is a field she has experience with specifically. EC's description of a rehab center was not positive, I think she was trying to be neutral but it did not come across as comforting if you were considering it for yourself. It really seemed like a far too early come back video for someone so unwell, made me feel sad to watch, there was no reassurance that she was on the road to a dedicated recovery so just left an empty feeling after viewing 😔

[@LaceyAnn]

I have been hoping for a long time that you would look into Eugenia’s story. Thank you for the video, I really appreciate hearing your perspective.

[@r.chrism.d.3001]

Liked the overall description of anorexia nervosa, except the mortality rate suggested from time of diagnosis seemed to be on the conservative side. Impression I always had was that it was just about the most lethal psychiatric diagnosis one could have. Things may have changed, which why being kept updated by your channel is a nice thing.

[@DrGrande]

Thank you!

[@r.chrism.d.3001]

Dr. Todd Grande You’re most welcome. Deserve every good thing that’s said. Perceptively developing a mailable, contemporary integration-impressed by your intuition and and systems for doing doing that. And if I may, in healthcare be aware of the Japanese proverb (paraphrasing) : The tallest piece of grass is the first to be cut..

[@littleboots9800]

@@r.chrism.d.3001 I remember being told that approximately a third would recover almost completely, a third would regain health but have to actively guard against "relapsing," and a third would die from the effects of the illness. Quite terrifying. My sister in law is a Psychiatrist. She recovered to an extent though has a very disordered relationship with food. She adopts various diets supposedly for health or ethical reasons but really they are a way to restrict food. She's been vegetarian, vegan, carb free, gluten free, dairy free etc at various times. She had two children, both born premature, she was back in the gym whilst they were still in the neonatal unit. She has had other health issues like poor wound healing due to her restrictive diet too but functions well despite her issues. Strangely She would overfeed her children and both son and daughter were very overweight when young though have since slimmed down.

[@r.chrism.d.3001]

@@littleboots9800 simply put, a miscoding in the brain beyond clear understanding. Inside info; can’t go into details but specific growth hormone based releasing peptide drugs are available which powerfully increase appetite and are efficacious in anorexia.

[@littleboots9800]

@@r.chrism.d.3001 interesting.

[@meganj2132]

I would like to see a video from you that discusses the different types of anorexia! I wasn't too clear on understanding what they were and am curious to learn more about it. But thank you for a great video it was very informative

[@hamburgerbrain]

Dr. G - you are amazing. I wish there were more professionals like you.

[@DrGrande]

Thank you so much!

[@hamburgerbrain]

@@DrGrande My pleasure. You are incredibly thorough, thoughtful, and careful - in all of your videos. I love your approach. I appreciate the scientific method, and it's so refreshing to find someone who doesn't sensationalize these topics. I've learned a lot from your videos, and have shared several with others.

[@JaneDoeowo]

$30k a month for treatment... Jesus Christ. That’s ridiculous. But not surprising either. My treatment was partially covered and still very very expensive. Sickening though

[@sarahvand3628]

I mean it is L.A.....

[@classicarah]

So much for a treatment that could be saving lives.

[@limorsteinberg2399]

This figure is actually quite low - when I was in inpatient and residential it as $2K/day - $60K a month.

[@NoQuarter1995]

@@limorsteinberg2399 that's called a scam

[@BrokennessAndBeauty]

the perfectionism also works for body dysmorphia with my face. precisely what you said. over focus on particular parts of the face vs. over focus on the body with anorexia.

[@Ali-kb8gr]

Gentle and thoughtful presentation. I greatly admire your ability to really convey compassion and respect. You KNOW when a witty comment is suited or when to steer clear. You're DEFINITELY my favorite youtuber.

[@deemariedubois4916]

I found this video to watch again because Eugenia is clearly deep in the throes in her ‘anorexia’ again. She is so thin now it’s scary. I don’t subscribe to her. I just can’t watch what she is doing to herself. Her physical condition is horrible but so many girls on her channel praise her appearance. It makes me want to cry. I fear if Eugenia doesn’t get help for her eating disorder soon the outcome is going to be terrible. People make comments expressing their concern but Eugenia just blows them off. She makes sure to pose so the camera shows her ribs, dresses to show her bones sticking out in her neck and décolletage and to show her arms and legs which are so tiny, the same size from top to bottom. I seriously don’t see how Eugenia stays upright. Seeing her like this breaks my heart. I question why You Tube leaves her channel monetized or even up at all.

[@WENDDEAD]

Dr Grande if you could please make a follow up on Eugenia, that would be very very appreciated and would be watched by many. Would love your input on her recent behavior.

[@callie.amilcare]

When you’re here in December 2020 and you go look at Eugenia’s channel and she is worse than she was when she went to rehab. I am so scared for her. I think this video puts things into a better perspective for me. Thank you for your insight.

[@sixfeetundertheradar6080]

Yeah he definitely asked some triggering questions

[@ajordan1976]

Yet it's 2023 and she's even more emaciated. Still in complete denial.

[@L3ttucePr3y]

When I was struggling with my eating disorder and had a BMI of 16.5 I had more energy than I ever had in my whole life. I’m convinced it was my body surging adrenaline through me so I would have enough energy to “hunt” for food since it knew I was starving. It was a very strange feeling being so tired yet so energetic at the same time. Strange and scary.

[@sarahbartlett9870]

Check out Tabitha Farrars migration response theory of anorexia. It will explain why you were like that

[@bethanywood1769]

As someone that suffered with Anorexia, I saw so much wrong in Shane's video. Eugenia didnt even want to acknowledge something was wrong and often said that she just "forgot to eat." I used to say all of those things when I was still deep in my disorder. Then, theres all the weird crap in the house. I could go on and on but I digress. I just really want this poor soul to get actual help and just take a break until shes actually better.

[@ajordan1976]

Shane's video is crap. I refuse to call it a documentary. I believe he's got an ED as well. Definitely he's insecure about his weight. Eugenia is on borrowed time at this point.

[@sunshinegirl6854]

I wish shane covered the topic of eating disorders in more depth with Kati morton. Perhaps elaborating more of his own experience. Plus kati morton has experience on an eating disorder unit!

[@LumineLeaf]

SunshineGirl that’s actually a great idea especially since he would be talking about his experience along with the help of a professional. If he did this it would really help others understand how people with Ed think and behave.

[@ayaa.1351]

Just not with Kati because she's not very professional.

[@aestheticgarbage6671]

Kati morton is a fucking joke lmao

[@varishnakov]

This is an interesting video. I had anorexia (non-binge-eating), though it was never officially diagnosed, when I was around 13 years old. It took me over 10 years to feel like I'm mentally recovered from it. Your descriptions were just checking all the boxes of my symptoms back then. My specific fixation in the mirror was my abs. I thought if I can't see my abs, then there must still be fat there.

[@SomethingClever_]

I’m so glad you made this video. This needs more attention and opinions from mental health professionals.

[@georgehasleftthebuilding6621]

Who's here in July 2020? Lol ya gotta love Dr Grande ✌

[@BattyNeko]

He's so professional and helpful lol I love him.

[@miriam3848]

Jan 2021

[@elizabethecarlisle1045]

Your videos are fantastic. The format feels fresh in that your technical expertise is made richer by including the element of insight. Creating provocative content sans the salacious framework viewers have come to expect can't be effortless. Thank you 😉

[@IsItAconspiracy]

I didnt care for the video. I dont know how he could have done it differently or better. I just dont think the topic was covered very well. Do people really need to tip toe on this subject? I think it would have helped if he also interviewed someone else in recovery with many years under their belt.

[@shadown2027]

Yes they do need to tiptoe. I suffer from an ED and most people on the ED website I'm on wanted Eugenia to go into detail so they could use her "tricks" to stay that thin and not lose hair or teeth. I dont think he could have done it differently, but I think any level of detail was always going to trigger people and the clips he used weren't anything people couldn't already see on her channel. He interviewed her so she could ease back into KZbin and because she's so famous for having an eating disorder and not admitting to it. I don't think interviewing someone else would have had the same interest or traction

[@emialice3825]

100% agree. She can’t even bring herself to say the word anorexia, she’s still clearly scarily underweight, and she’s only been out of rehab a month ... there’s absolutely no way she was ready for this. I had an ED much, much, much less severe than Eugenia’s and six years later I would still say I’m in recovery to an extent. Eugenia isn’t anywhere near any meaningful kind of recovery unfortunately. I think it’s something that you have to fight against for years and years, possibly your whole life, once you’ve experienced it.

[@athickie]

I think it would’ve went better if he was more prepared with his questions. It just seemed as though he thought of them off the top of his head. Her answers were all over the place bc the questions were.

[@lidahall5928]

I think *this* is really the crux of the issue: the "tip-toeing" around the subject. If you have to do it during an interview with someone who is ostensibly "in recovery", perhaps they've not been working on their recovery for long enough for the interview to be a good idea in the first place? IDK.

[@beardpandaa]

I guess the point of the video wasn't to explain or educate about the topic of eating disorders (which shane dawson isn't in the position to do as he's not a professional of mental health). It was more to share eugenia's story. It would've been very disrespectful to tell eugenia she has anorexia and just force her to say she has it when she's not comfortable saying that. She just started recovery, these things take time

[@katherinestahl7641]

I believe Kati specializes in working with eating disorders. She worked in a residential/inpatient ED facility. I wished we would have heard more from her in the video.

[@Estelle-Maureen]

Does anyone have any ideas on why Eugenia is so endlessly positive?

[@teresahowick5197]

Estelle A someone said in another video comment section that it’s another coping mechanism? If you think about the accusations against her mom this makes total sense. At least to me.

[@okok-bp9dj]

She's deeply abused and traumatized. Her mother is all kinds pf crazy and twisted, and has been on camera in the background of eugenia's video's saying she wants to use Eugenia for money, and basically she controls the girl. Therefore Eugenia was never allowed to express anger, because that would be a threat to her mom being able to streat Eugenia as a slave/prisoner/workhorse.

[@Estelle-Maureen]

@@teresahowick5197 I have several theories rolling around in my head on this... Thank you for sharing your thoughts... I've heard the same

[@Estelle-Maureen]

@@okok-bp9dj that definitely seems to be a common theme... Thank you for sharing... I would love for Dr. Grande to weigh in on this!!!

[@joannasaadati8810]

I found that aspect very disturbing because to me it shows she has no boundaries or instincts to protect herself. People who are abused act similarly 😔 and people with little control over their lives can use eating disorders as their only way to have some control.

[@johannajf7914]

I've never had an ED but I can understand hyper-focusing on certain parts of one's body to such an extent it warps one's entire self-perception. I have a non-flat stomach that wasn't flat even when I was underweight for a while due to stress. It makes me think of myself as skinny-fat while my overweight family have always called me little and skinny. Seeing yourself as others do is hard since they don't have your insecurities when they look at your body.

[@sycamoresally6303]

“We sit on the sidelines and worry.” Sounds like my job as a mom! 😂

[@DestinyDaylight]

Hi Dr.Grande, I wanted to say you put these together very well. I have a question regarding Eugenia Cooneys mother. Many people assume she has munchausen by proxy. But I was reading something, on what was called “the unloving mother” while I know you can’t diagnose her mother as she is not your client, I was wondering if you saw any similarities between her and the “unloving mother” theory I have. Thank you for doing what you do, be safe and well.

[@susanelizabeth4344]

Hi Dr Grande, it would be great to see a video about binge eating disorder. Thanks for all the great content!!

[@DrGrande]

You are quite welcome!

[@possumfriend2335]

Dr. Grande, you should do an analysis on the Jaclyn Glen video about Shane and Eugenia's video. Jaclyn is the person who staged an intervention to get Eugenia into treatment and feels like Shane and this video helped undo any progress.

[@kiraviolet1]

As someone who suffered greatly from an ED for many years, I just wanted to thank you for your respectful, thorough and affirming discussion of this (and many other) topics. It is incredibly validating to hear this disorder discussed with reference to the seriousness and severity of the suffering it causes. Thank you!

[@12jhawkk]

What is the smr of those with Dissociative Identity Disorder? Great video. Learned a lot.

[@sairachiodini]

You are so calming to listen to! Been following you for a while & im happy to hear you cover this with such care, understanding, & clarity. Also, thank you for touching on binge eating disorder. I feel like it gets over looked so much.

[@sairachiodini]

Omg I got a heart react from Dr. Grande. Goal reached.

[@DrGrande]

lol, that is too funny :)

[@didderbugakakatie]

I felt like I actually caught a glimpse of your heart in this video.

[@vulfbyte3229]

This disorder killed my sister in law last year and her steady, persistent decline despite all of our best efforts and professional help and eventual loss was devastating to everyone who knew her. What you stated as indications for having anorexia with purging and how it can progress were dead on, she was a textbook example. I really hope more attention IS brought to this and people start to understand exactly HOW dangerous eating disorders really are. Thank-you for your video, it was informative as ever and I hope many families of people who need to know these things are able to educate themselves a little better with it.

[@VanityDivined]

I feel like Todd saw the writing on the wall. There’s always hope as long as Eugenia is alive, but she’s getting older & this is the point (late 20s) where many ppl with ED pass away unfortunately

[@ladymopar2024]

Thanks for stating type, I have type 1. No one has explained that but you. It is a long road to recovery. My trigger is my stomach and hips, you nailed it Great video!

[@XanianaAdlib]

Dr. Grande thanks for a great video I'm getting to years too late. Could you please consider doing another piece on Eugenia? I've watched her since she started YT when I was a teenager and it definitely added to my disordered thinking, not to place blame or anything eek. But she's doing so, so bad again, would you consider going over it again or possibly going over the aspects of the damage she does not only to herself but to impressionable fans? Much love! Love finding videos of yours I haven't watched.

[@lindseygarciafreiberg]

As someone who struggled with restrictive anorexia nervosa and has been in recovery for a few years I would just like to thank you for your covering of this topic and the eloquence with which you did so. I also have multiple other diagnoses and always find your videos informative and helpful! Thank you for doing what you do, this neurodivergent appreciates you very much :)

[@Reportinglivefrommysofa]

I was so happy when I saw that she was coming back and Shane was talking with her. After watching it I felt like it glossed over things. I could see she had gained weight in her face which looks great. She seems to be opening up more and more on her social media. I hope that she becomes happy and healthy whatever that means for her.

[@JapaneseKyaaa]

Based on my own experience, you really do not understand your weight if you're struggling mentally. I've lost almost 100lbs, and I KNOW I have lost weight, but I still always see myself as that fat girl, except I'm coping better now. I hope she finds the strength to love herself enough to take care of herself.

[@alhana8293]

I can relate. Completely agree with you.

[@Rgungujfc]

I hope you are doing okay just know you are not alone ❤️

[@michelles9131]

I only know about this situation because of time spent on KZbin due to quarantine. Besides the frightening images of this girl, I have read numerous responses from girls admitting that they developed eating disorders from watching her. I think it took awhile for fans to realize something was wrong and at first she was receiving complements on how skinny she was. Hence, younger girls followed suit.

[@folkloreofbeing]

I didn't know how skinny I was until I overheard a group of girls talking about how thin I was. ("omg! How can she carry those shopping bags! Look how thin she is! ) When I got home, I looked in the mirror and saw what they saw. Before that, I was just annoyed with everyone saying 'You're getting too thin', because I didn't look that bad to me.

[@simplyonemortality8122]

With regards to the focusing on certain body parts ect and the perception of how someone with such a disorder may view themselves and also some correlation with ocd and some kind of perfectionistic personality, would you say it would be fair to acknowledge that there is overlap between focusing on such body parts in ways which may seem delusional or warped to others but also as a potential symptom/criteria of OCPD - of a person being detail focused and thus unable to really see the bigger picture? Obviously this is depending on how one either does or does not present with other potential criteria/symptoms. Therefore is it possible the higher comorbidity rate between for example anorexia nervosa and OCD, may actually be mis represented and could actually be OCPD comorbid with AN more frequently than is currently understood to be the case.

[@MidoriGa95]

When I saw the video on the recommendation I was like "isn't that still too early?" Like she didn't say first that she would like to share her journey. It was Shane that approached her so hearing her responses were...expected. I think Eugenia is still processing the causes that happened on both her mental and body so she wan't comfortable or confident enough to share the details

[@teresahowick5197]

MidoriGa95 didn’t she approach Shane? Either way I 💯 agree with you.

[@MidoriGa95]

@@teresahowick5197 Oh really? I thought it was him since after she announced she's going to get help and Shane talked to her etc, that's how he got the idea to film her early journey. I could have heard wrong then. Ops 😅

[@thorazinedreams381]

Hey if y'all want a good perspective on Eugenia I recommend the yt channel Of Herbs And Altars. She's recovering from anorexia and has made some videos regarding Eugenia. I see the situation a lot differently now. I highly recommend.

[@aurora8749]

Mine wasn't how anything specific looked. It was about numbers. I was terrified of being a three digit weight. Now i am chunky lol its been 15 years. Im glad I don't hate myself so much anymore

[@ileanaz9490]

I had anorexia when I was around 14-15 (I’m 21 now) I was underweight however unlike what you said in the video- when I looked in the mirror I DID NOT see an underweight person. I didn’t see myself as giant either- I guess it was more that I saw myself as normally thin but not too thin. The reason I kept going with the weight loss and calorie restriction is less so that I WANTED to loose more weight and more so because I was literally SCARED of food. Anorexia becomes addicting in a way that once you’re in that mindset, restricting your calories, you become of afraid of food you think that eating more that x amount of food a day will blow you up and make you giant. I wasn’t thinking about loosing more weight at this point, it was more a byproduct of being afraid of food.

[@user-gy7bg1rv6o]

You are doing a great job pointing out what's wrong. You are doing all you can, Dr. Grande, that's enough.

[@bobcatred]

Looking back, I think it would have been better for Eugenia to stay off social media and focus on improving her health. I think the way people online react to her only makes her ED worse, but since she didn’t choose to go into treatment in the first place...

[@susanb4816]

i am 5'6". about 10 years ago i weighed myself for the first time in a few years and was alarmed to find myself at only 100 lbs. it wasnt until that moment i realised i had a problem with nutrition. i was oblivious to my body until that moment, no mirrors etc. thankfully, i got it under control after a few years

[@mariobros4648]

15:53 that sounded like body dysmorphia to me. Wow, honestly, there's a lot to learn when it comes to eating disorders. This was a really well made video, I learned something new.

[@itscooltobeyou]

This is so informative, i don't know anyone with this disorder, but am interested in learning more about mental health

[@reacakes]

Would you possibly do a video discussing the difference between ADHD and ADD (other than the obvious)? It's hard to find information on the non-hyperactive of the two. Also, the multiple disorders/illnesses that come along with ADD/ADHD? I was diagnosed when I was 13 and took it for what it was and went on. I wanted to be "normal" and not have to take a medication everyday which lead to a downward spiral. Depression, anxiety, substance abuse, and more. I finally decided to get help and I'm trying to understand it rather than taking medication and going on.

[@allifairm]

Great video and information! Thank you. I noticed Eugenia seems to always say something nice. It seems she has trouble with verbalizing any negativity. I wonder if this plays a part in her controlling her food intake. As it is something she can absolutely control. So because she has trouble voicing her actual feelings she turns to food restriction.

[@kerrylyndsay902]

Dr, Grande, I think you are so impressive and insightful. Would you consider having an appropriately selected youtuber with you as you do videos of such substance and significance to make everything more relatable?

[@SaraRinger]

Really appreciate you started your channel. I love having a scientist to shed light on these things.

[@ZZhorses]

FINALLY A GOOD VIDEO ABOUT THIS TOPIC THANK YOU

[@windarisantidewi7183]

She is all bones now.... so hard to watch. She needs help for sure.

[@RustinChole]

She won’t survive long. Very sad. And preventable.

[@RRAutoAndHome]

Plz revisit Eugenia. 💕 It could positively impact many young or struggling people on this platform. Thank you. ☺️

[@kerri5825]

We live in a weird time, it used to be that if you didn't check in on facebook, were you even there? Now it's only real if its documented on youtube. KZbin has blurred reality and entertainment, and there's a serious misuse of this platform all the time. Great video Todd, it's a reminder that we have to separate the entertainment and the reality as viewers, especially when the topic is as serious as this.

[@candymeltproductions5392]

Hi mr grande i just saw this movie called “unsane” and it is about a woman that need psychological help but the twist was if she really needed it or not or if she was really crazy . I hope you can check it out because I somehow can’t come across or understand what really happen I would like to know your opinion and review on it if you ever get to see the movie thanks.

[@carolbird5708]

Me too!

[@br3880]

any suggestions for cheap counseling for those without insurance?

[@jennj2049]

I'm pretty sure I've told you before, but the way you present everything you speak in a way that's so easy to understand and informative. I learn a lot from you, which I really appreciate. Thank you so much 💕 My daughter has been dealing with an eating disorder unfortunately. She's going through some other things too, the joys of being a teen. I had to put her in a 30 day inpatient. It was such a hard decision but she's home now. Some days it appears better, other days not so much. Thank you so much for making this video hope you're having a great day 💕 oh, and thank you again for teaching me so many things!