Did 'The Chosen' get the Birth of Christ WRONG?!

[@deborahmclean3008]

"Oh Mary conceived without sin,pray for us who have recourse to thee",Happy Birthday Baby Jesus❤

[@DrJonathanGemmill]

Yes,Amen 🙏.

[@larrywethington5936]

Yes. Mary suffered no pain. Jesus passed through her womb like light through a window, leaving her virginal womb perfectly intact. - MYSTICAL CITY OF GOD

[@williammann6198]

Amen brother!

[@sleepinglioness5754]

The Light of the world. Joy to the world 🙏✝🙏

[@debbiegum2226]

During the second season the women who followed Jesus were asking Mary about the birth. As soon as the character said, “It was messy” I had to make a note of that. So when the movie came out I explained to my kids, prior to seeing it, that there might be some heresy regarding the birth of Jesus. It opened up for great discussion afterwards. It was a great opportunity to explain differences between Catholicism and Protestant beliefs. We also told them that this is one area where the Protestants fall short cuz of Martin Luther.

[@rosemarymiller4485]

Oh! My! Goodness! So true! Protestants come close but miss so much. Keep praying for them.❤

[@marygreen6]

Thank you, John Henry, for defending our faith!!!

[@johniteshi4457]

It saddens me greatly how Catholics, especially our priests and Bishops who promote protestant works. The Chosen, a protestant work, was promoted and made extremely popular by Catholics leaders. It does not make any sense.

[@germain1947]

It never made sense...I t was like they were going alone to get along!

[@sleepinglioness5754]

Agree! What I watched of it (and it was not much!), the actors sounded like they were from California!

[@christinafochi4070]

Thank you John Henry Weston for always being so wonderfully bold in proclaiming the Truths of our Faith! May God continue to bless you and your catechetical use of this platform!

[@puratorres5756]

All these faith based movies only take away from OUR Lady's honor and holiness!

[@Azulcielo226]

I am grateful for your teachings John Henry. Although I have heard each revelation you have shared; it certainly helps me quite a lot when someone with theologically experience interprets. By the grace of God I have never doubted the virginity of our Blessed Mother since God would never allow his son to be conceived and carried for 9 months by someone impure. My husband and I have been praying the holy rosary for 10 years (in Spanish) and we enjoy it very much, especially this part “Oh Sovereign Sanctuary Tabernacle of the Eternal Word…….” This one as well “Mary Most Holy, temple, Throne and tabernacle of the Holy Trinity” referring to Mary’s womb. I’m in my early 60’s and when I was a child my grandmother taught certain (traditional) prayers that are real difficult to find. God bless you all!🙏

[@rosaharris4750]

I remember the nuns teaching us in Catechism that Mary did not suffer any pain when she gave birth to Jesus. That was in the mid sixties.

[@MyTomwilliams]

Thank you John Henry I found this most inspiring. In my heart I have always held this truth based on the Dogma of The Immaculate Conception as you described it. Backing it all up with the Scriptures themselves and the visionaries accounts certainly solidified the truth of Mary’s Perpetual Virginity. Very timely …do hope many see this and come to a deeper understanding of THE GIFT of LIFE the birth of OUR LORD & SAVIOUR JESUS means to every soul alive in the world today.

[@juliabiagiarelli3560]

St. Bridget also describes a light filled , painless birth of Jesus

[@SENIORaMOMENTS]

Protestant production - writers and director...they will always get Mary, and Joseph wrong. I do watch it but don't pin any theology on it. I enjoy the episodes as much as i enjoy the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

[@brandywineblue]

Difference being is that the Lord of the Rings books were written by a real Catholic, as an allegory for the Christian faith.

[@SENIORaMOMENTS]

@brandywineblue i know that. LOTR is fiction, whilst The Chosen is not but taking liberties with their imagined scenarios/dialogues that happened between and amongst biblical characters ... the characters real persons themselves. So in that sense, both are simply entertainment for me - and enjoy both. Now, as far as theology is concerned, LOTR has Catholic leanings and Thr Chosen is definitely not Catholic - that's why the prod will always get Mary and Joseph wrong.

[@reginapontes5672]

Same. The introduction to S1E1 specifically states it's a series not to be taken to erase the bible.

[@sleepinglioness5754]

How beautiful, John-Henry 🙏✝🙏 The King of kings. A Blessed and Holy Christmas to you and your family, and to all the LifeSite family.

[@anthonyiannone8766]

Merry and blessed Christmas John Henry! To a very blessed year for us all. I like: "they didn't get it right" how true that is.

[@amyhume8011]

I really loved this clip John Henry. Thank you so much.

[@bellerocc4933]

Excellent!!! Thanks John Henry!!!

[@mayda462]

MARIA VALTORTA'S SAW THE BIRTH OF JESUS... MARY WAS SURROUNDED BY A VERY BRIGHT LIGHT AND WHEN THE LIGHT DIMED, MARY APPEARED WITH JESUS...NOT A BIRTH LIKE MOTHER'S TODAY... SHE IS WITHOUT SIN...AND MOST PURE...AMAZING WHEN YOU READ ABOUT IT IN MARIA VALTORTA'S BOOK...

[@God_my_Savior]

Merry Christmas John Henry and God bless you always! ❤️✝️🛐

[@lizzierixom1676]

After I watched the birth of Christ on the chosen I was horrified and stopped watching it there and then, what an insult to the Blessed Mary ever Virgin, the New Eve the Ark of the Covenant, she did NOT give birth like any other woman

[@cynthiagonzalez658]

I hate these TV shows. I would never watch them because I would just get upset.

[@colleen5872]

Merry Christmas❤.....and thank you so much for this explanation.

[@lucie2you462]

When a person is in ecstasy like Mary was, her spirit was in heaven. I imagine the whole of heaven witnessed Jesus' birth. The angels sang the most beautiful songs. It wasn't until Jesus' cry that she came back to her earthly form.

[@kathleenprice662]

What a beautiful meditation before receiving the Eucharist! Thank you for sharing it John Henry. A holy and happy Christmas to all at Lifesite.

[@paulettelawyer4983]

I read City of God, Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich and now joyfully reading Maria Valtorta. I think where some may think Mary had labour pains, as it says that Mary laboured to give birth in Revelations 12...but Mary was labouring to give new birth/new life of soul for Her children given to Her by Christ on the Cross. Labouring while helping us to reach salvation because She is our mother.

[@10Fritz-2]

That's what I was going to say Revelation 12. Every year it's read on the day of the Feast of Guadalupe. Yes, we all want that Blessed Mother had no pain but it is written on Revelation 12. By the way this is a private time for a woman why do we have to bring it up every year.

[@kathleenfrancis1872]

Merry Christmas Life Site 🎁🎄🙏❣️♥️🗡️☦️

[@mazikode]

Yes they totally got it wrong so I just dont watch the Chrisgmas special anymore it really made me feel bad. Thanks John Henry God bless you

[@brandywineblue]

Thank you for putting the truth so plainly and succinctly. These movie makers need to learn facts. The Bible says travail in book of Apocalypse, but that is describing the birth of the church.

[@TuanPham-hx6ez]

Happy Holy Christmas. Thank you for your teaching how I should pray before receiving Holy Communion.

[@ritakirwanmahon3481]

Very happy Christmas John and your family also ❤

[@God_my_Savior]

I heard a lot of things about the chosen, i never watched it. But i just never felt the need to watch that show it looked weird to me idk why

[@celiahart1239]

I absolutely love The Chosen. It's very moving and beautifully done. They even consult Catholic priests but regardless, we know our faith and if something differs a bit then it's ok because we know the truth. So much of daily conversations and events in the Apostle's lives are unknown and unwritten in the bible so they ( The Chosen) carefully speculate and investigate with theologians and biblical scholars of the Catholic and Protestant faiths as to how it might have been. If you watch their videos on the back stories they tell you this. The series have converted thousands and thousands to Christianity so it bears great fruit.

[@reginapontes5672]

Ir's a wonderful show. Excellent acting. Especially Jonathan Roumie the Catholic actor who plays Jesus Christ.

[@annpearrow2072]

Good fruits have come from The Chosen for millions across the globe. For me, a cradle Catholic, the portrayal of Jesus as so warm, loving and relatable yet strong and Godly has deepened my desire to read the Bible and understand scripture. It has transformed the Bible from black and white to living color. The healings and miracles will make you cry and love Jesus all the more.

[@anaschlosser919]

John Henry is there a way to get a written Script of this show? I would really love one, i tried printing the Transcript but nothing worked. Hope you see this and can help me. With it. I am hearing impaired and lose a lot when i try to write it out, Please let me know. Ana Thank you so much.

[@sleepinglioness5754]

Ana, read Monica Mohan's comment posted. She reiterates some of what John-Henry said. Might help for now. Merry Christmas ✝

[@bluschke52]

Merry Christmas to all. Blessings 🙏🙏

[@silviamarignoni3827]

That was beautiful, thank you!

[@Find_Frodo]

Perhaps Jesus passed through Mary at birth as He passed through the Shroud of Turin, leaving His image.

[@shafur3]

I like the show but being a Catholic i see alot of things i was not taught. So when i watch it i take it with a grain of salt. I do believe what the mystics tell us it makes sense.

[@keepers...]

"The Chosen" is a Modernist take on the Gospel, which makes it heresy.

[@louisecampbell7940]

The producers have never said it is 100% accurate historically nor Biblically. It is also a dramatic representation. They have always been very open and forthright about that. it is not a 'modernist' interpretation at all. But I expect you have not watched one single episode.

[@mayda462]

MERRY CHRISTMAS🎄🎄🎄 AND NEW YEAR🎆🎊🎉 FILL WITH JOY, PEACE, JOY AND EVERLASTING HAPPINESS....

[@Marcia-fw3wz]

The details of the Incarnation, birth, and infancy of our Lord as described in the gospels would have been told by Mary, and she probably told the apostles and others about many events that are not in the Bible, but were passed on through their writings and by word of mouth.

[@bspks756]

Yes! Thank you John Henry for publicly stating the truth -- Mary had no pain during childbirth due to her Immaculate Conception. ✝️

[@tonygville2969]

King Jesus and King Joseph ❤ Holy Family please pray for Us All. Viva Cristo Rey

[@noellelenihan4124]

I don’t watch the chosen 🙄

[@AP777-JC]

Nice how you say Trachtenhemd. Blessings from a German speaking European.

[@Michael-sr7zc]

Joseph was no where near Mary at the time of Delivery Only Gabriel

[@InventorKnight]

The chosen? That is not a Catholic show. I stopped watching it after a few beginning episodes. It was clearly in error for all to see.

[@louisecampbell7940]

The producers have never said it is 100% accurate historically nor Biblically. It is a dramatic representation not entirely based in fact. They have always been very open and forthright about that.

[@jaeho7501]

Mary in Revelation 12:1-2: "A great sign was seen in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was with child. SHE CRIED OUT IN PAIN, LABORING TO GIVE BIRTH."

[@MichaelZappa-be4kw]

Perhaps Mary DID experience pain during the birth of Jesus for two reasons: 1) to fully share in the experience of being a human woman--she was free of original sin, but she was fully human; 2) as a participation in the physical pain her Son would suffer during the crucifixion.

[@johnhall2667]

Really? This is a TV show that states it uses freedom in personal stories with the gospel writings It’s a show. This is your Christmas Eve show. I’m a Catholic fully and the Chosen has helped me to research the Gospels. I’m sure others have had this experience. Leave it alone geez

[@conniedetevis2119]

@johnhall It’s John Henry’s channel and he is talking about Catholic teachings about our Blessed Mother giving birth to Jesus. Whether it’s a “show that uses freedom in personal stories with the gospel writings” or not the truth should be said. John Henry was correct in saying that the chosen got it wrong and am grateful that he made this video.

[@inhonorofmary6825]

It's an insult to our most pure mother...no..not leaving it alone

[@marygreen6]

Thank you jonhall!!!! It’s his show to teach Catholic teachings and he often goes on current events. Good for him! I’m glad he called out an extremely important Catholic teaching on Mary, the Mother. Of God. The lukewarm Catholic thing doesn’t work anymore.

[@Michael-sr7zc]

The Gates of Ann and Elizabeth remained open

[@marygreen6]

Do people still watch TV shows? ??

[@dorotagarnham6314]

As it happens, my husband and I were watching "Mary of Nazareth" withAlissa Jung as Mary and Andreas Pietschmann as Joseph, directed by Giacomo Campiotti. Highly recommend by fr. Donald Calloway. And there is no birth paints at all. I love this movie, it is beautiful

[@Molly-ILJVM]

I have it slated to watch. Thank You!!

[@veritastangg9486]

There is a typo in the video. In one quote, it said from "Confucius", but it should be from St Thomas Aquinas.

[@andreasmoser2362]

Yes, the Chosen got that wrong, nevertheless it was an overall great series. Over that incidents friendships broke, the Catholic community was devided. Now did Mel Gibson in 'The Passion of Christ' get the garden of Gethsemane scene wrong by portraying Lucifer as the angel??? Wheras pious Catholic opinion holds that Michael the archangel fulfilled this role. Scripture certainly records angels ministering to Jesus. “And there appeared to [Jesus] an angel from heaven, strengthening him” (Luke 22:43) Yet it is the best Catholic movie ever made.

[@10Fritz-2]

You need to watch the movie I am the Immaculate Conception movie that Fr. Chris help with documentary. It explains how she is Immaculate

[@kelvinaybar4873]

The show got many things wrong, merry Christmas. God bless you and everyone who watches this video

[@Molly-ILJVM]

I don’t watch the Chosen-never liked it. What is really upsetting is some Catholic Priests allow it as a study in the Catholic Church.

[@kathyfunkgomer]

❤

[@debbiegum2226]

Yes- they definitely got it wrong. We had to explain to our kids, after watching the movie, that cuz it was Protestant based they depicted the birth of Jesus incorrectly. Our kids are older and were able to understand. However, we still watch the series. No other series is like it. In a world full xxx rated garbage on the screens 24/7 the “Chosen” is a breath of fresh air. There’s been nothing else, so far, that’s been wrong. Even an exorcist priest who is popular on KZbin said he recommends the show.

[@louisecampbell7940]

The producers have never said it is 100% accurate historically nor Biblically. It is a dramatic representation not entirely based in fact. They have always been very open and forthright about that.

[@louisecampbell7940]

John Henry your quote from St Thomas Aquinas was shown on screen as being quoted from Confucius

[@billyhomeyer7414]

But the Chosen was produced by Protestants and some Catholics consulted.

[@ao19776]

That doesn’t make the errors in it okay. Those things are still gravely sinful and offensive. There are many Catholics who openly reject Marian dogmas and mock Catholics who hold to those beliefs. There are many more who simply don’t know any better and don’t take the time to research the matter. Also, it is possible the consulted Catholics said the portrayal was wrong and those in charge chose not to fix it. Having consulted Catholics is meaningless in this case and doesn’t make up for the sins committed against Our Lady.

[@SandraStJames-lj4uq]

Placenta?

[@dous1492]

The only good depictions of Jesus on screen: 1. The Passion of the Christ 2. Ben Hur (that’s right, you don’t see Face of the Lord). Can’t stand it when people mess His depiction. It’s so wrong and dangerous.

[@zorayasuarez]

I watched 6 episodes of The Chosen, but there were so many inaccuracies I just couldn’t watch anymore. From the Blessed Mother appearing like an average middle aged woman, not beautiful nor with a heavenly aura bothered me. Plus, they made her look like a gypsy not a reverent, holy, conservative mother. Then, Joseph was portrayed as black or Indian, which is not true since they were both from the lineage of King David, devout Jews, who didn’t mix interracially. Then , they portrayed Peter as a gambler, Magdalena, an alcoholic, and Matthew as Autistic- which didn’t exist back then, plus the Romans wouldn’t have tolerated anyone less than perfectly healthy to work with. Of course, they portrayed the Virgin Mary erroneously as an average sinful woman having labor pains during child birth because the director and producers are not Catholic, who didn’t do enough research about the Holy Family and the Virgin Mary’s Immaculate Conception and the holy birth of our Lord Jesus Christ. Very frustrating. ❤

[@kyoshi5868]

This series falls far short of "The Passion of the Christ" in every aspect. The Jesus portrayed by Dallas Jenkins is overly secular.

[@louisecampbell7940]

The producers have never said it is 100% accurate historically nor Biblically. It is a dramatic representation not entirely based in fact. They have always been very open and forthright about that.

[@MargaretMunck-xv8lw]

We don't watch the chosen.

[@TheonewhomJesusloves895]

John Henry i thought you were Indian, you dont look German at all. 😂

[@God_my_Savior]

That sounds rude

[@HenryAnthony-tr9mu]

Half-half

[@denisechittle4772]

That's why I don't watch contrived religious stories. Mary was free from the results of Original and personal sin. She could not suffer as normal humans she has never had sinn inher soul and was born and lived pire. Hallucinations maybe. Maybe very poorly catechized. Otherwise I stay out of if it.

[@God_my_Savior]

Amen

[@joolz5747]

This is a creative drama. It doesn’t help to criticize things that are Catholic. That really bothers me and I’m Catholic let them do their creative license in a beautiful show that I’d rather look at all the good parts of not the one part that doesn’t agree with me for heaven sake’s.

[@pattid8729]

This particular point of contention is not enough to discount the entire Chose series. This series has brought so many people to Jesus - isn’t that the important thing? Dallas Jenkins is a Protestant. He doesn’t adhere to every individual point of Catholicism. You are failing to see the forest for the trees.

[@marygreen6]

I appreciate John Henry doing his work in showing us as Catholic our true theology. Understanding Mary Is extremely important. If it’s missed in a series, we have to call it out. Otherwise, we miss the forest through the trees, understand our faith, not just prices of it, and staying quiet because Protestants may be offended.

[@daniellejarvis157]

A lot of what the Catholic church teaches is an extrapolation and 'understanding' of the Bible, but the Bible doesn't explicitly (or even implicitly) say these things. WE assume that Mary was conceived without sin, but that actually is nowhere in the Bible, it just makes sense to us. I can fully understand the Protestants aspect of her being a 'normal' person who said Yes to God. That is equally biblical.

[@marygreen6]

The Church existed before the Bible was put together by the Catholic monks. The Protestants should be thanking the Catholics for their broad history and theology, and trying to understand everything. Don’t limit yourself to thinking Mary was just another woman. God would make her special. I’m so thankful for this! Read Isaiah 7:14. Amazing.

[@noellelenihan4124]

Our Lady Mary would have to have pain given Birth, just like Jesus pain on the cross, we all experience pain given Birth, it’s natural to bring Life into the world 🌍🙏😇

[@marygreen6]

It was a miraculous birth even prophesied in the Old Testament. People, please read our catechism pre-Vatican 2. This is in the Bible and the church fathers studied this. We should too!

[@marygreen6]

The very fact that people are downgrading Mary here to a regular birth and not free of sin, shows the Protestants have crept in post V2. It was from God!!!!!!!!

[@sjacrane]

No She wouldn’t “have to have pain” where did you get that nonsense from?

[@pdxnikki1]

Was Jesus born? Yes. So if you weren't there & didn't see it, don't worry. You're good. Course I'm devout Catholic & can discern factionalized accounts based on what we know from other types of entertainment. As most of yall can, Jew, Muslim, Atheist, Catholic, Protestant or just curious.

[@jacktracy8356]

CHRIST stopped Mary veneration/worship right at the beginning but pagans will continue to be pagans: Luke 11:27 KJV "And it came to pass, as HE (CHRIST) spoke these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto HIM, Blessed is the womb that bare you, and the paps which you have sucked. 28 But HE said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the WORD of GOD, and keep it." Matthew 12:47 KJV "Then one said unto HIM (CHRIST), Behold, YOUR mother and YOUR brethren stand without, desiring to speak with YOU. 48 But HE answered and said unto him that told HIM, Who is MY mother? and who are MY brethren? 49 And HE stretched forth HIS hand toward HIS disciples, and said, Behold MY mother and MY brethren! 50 For whosoever shall do the will of MY FATHER which is in Heaven, the same is MY brother, and sister, and mother."

[@avantibev7759]

As a woman I am so sick of hearing this. Mary was a REAL woman. She was free of original sin but not from prostaglandins. For the uterus of a real woman to expel a baby, it MUST begin contractions. Prostaglandin levels rise in the woman's body to begin uterine contractions. ( It also happens every month to those of us who have had extremely painful periods).

[@marygreen6]

You are thinking of just a regular woman. The birth was miraculous, not of this earth. I am a woman too.

[@marygreen6]

The conception was miraculous, as well.

[@louisecampbell7940]

Mary was exempt from physiologically and physically experiencing childbirth or menstruation etc - She was Chosen for Her Role and was not needed for procreation as human mothers because She was a Vessel purely to give supernatural Birth to The Saviour

[@scottforesman7968]

I lived for 30 years, as a Protestant, and NEVER heard of this. NEVER. I think that this movie has had 100,000,000 viewers over the world. I really don't understand all the Catholic criticism. Mary's lack of pain is not mentioned in the Bible. Whether she did or not, I don't know, but really, do you understand just how narrow (and silly) this sounds to many Christians. Millions are coming to Christ because of this movie. Can't you rejoice in that???

[@brandywineblue]

Are they coming to the truth about Christ, or lies about Him? In the early centuries of Christianity, there were actual Christians, but also people who called themselves Christians but believed in lies about Jesus spread by a deacon named Arius. Look up St Nicholas, St Athanasius, and the Council of Nicea. Only the Truth saves. Love only rejoices with the truth.

[@marygreen6]

My mother converted from Protestant to Catholic. I encourage all non- Catholics to study the early church fathers. This was prophesied and goes back to the OT, and fulfillment of the New Covenant. There was a church before the Bible was put together by Catholic monks. Please read the doctrine. Protestants have been told since Their denominations came to be that Mary is just Mary. The Eucharist is nothing, etc…. God is great!!!!!!

[@johnhall2667]

And 90%og Catholics haven’t even heard of Catherine Emmerich. Most listen to the gospels. You will never known the pangs of childbirth. The depiction of Mary in pain helps us humans to relate to this miraculous birth. I’m tired of knit picking when this a general Christian tv show

[@larrywethington5936]

It's not nitpicking when correcting error. If you're turning down a one way street the wrong way, you want your passenger to say nothing?

[@sleepinglioness5754]

Can we, therefore, assume you are non-Catholic?!?

[@sleepinglioness5754]

Read Monica Mohan's comment posted.

[@monicamohan4720]

Mary did not have pain during labor. Mary was a virgin before, during and after the birth of Christ. "Before she was in labour, she brought forth; before her time came to be delivered, she brought forth a man child." - Douay Rheims "To Eve it was said: In sorrow shalt thou bring forth children. Mary was exempt from this law, for preserving her virginal integrity inviolate she brought forth Jesus the Son of God without experiencing, as we have already said, any sense of pain." -Catechism of the Council of Trent " I answer that, The pains of childbirth are caused by the infant opening the passage from the womb. Now it has been said above (Question [28], Article [2], Replies to objections), that Christ came forth from the closed womb of His Mother, and, consequently, without opening the passage. Consequently there was no pain in that birth, as neither was there any corruption; on the contrary, there was much joy therein for that God-Man "was born into the world," according to Is. 35:1,2: "Like the lily, it shall bud forth and blossom, and shall rejoice with joy and praise." - St. Thomas Aquanis The Summa Theologica

[@rosemarymiller4485]

Full Stop! Thank you for your clear, succinct verbage going back to the original Douay -Rheims. Simple Truth

[@marygreen6]

Thank you! Protestants, please come home to the Catholic Church!

[@monicamohan4720]

​@@rosemarymiller4485 You are welcome...How can we not defend such an excellent Mother!