Thanks so much for checking out the SA-3! We're glad you enjoyed it 😁
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
Which one do you prefer? Gullfoss vs Soothe 2 vs Smooth Operator vs Teote vs DSEQ 3 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZfHd5htppd1ldE
@newguy69353 ай бұрын
I prefer DSEQ 3 as it has one feature the others don't - slope adjustment that allows you to specify slopes anywhere from -6 to 6. That makes a difference. That said, I actually try not to use these plugins much. Certainly no more than a -3 dB setting also.
@RayTheProducer9 ай бұрын
I think you’re one of the best analysts on KZbin. Love your style of presenting. Very interesting plug-in worth checking out. I do have Gullfoss and Smooth Operator (very different beast though) but I do find myself using them selectively. With this profusion in this sort of plugin, one does wonder how all those classic albums were ever made without suppressing resonances haha 😅. Keep up the excellent content.
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words! Ideally you never want to use soothe 2 or gulfoss ( very different tools indeed). Using these types of tools is also a sign of the times where everything can and will be analyzed to death and where the skill to record something properly seem to have dimished a bit.
@RayTheProducer9 ай бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio 🙏 golden words. Still, the tech we have now is pretty unbelievable.
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
Tech these days has come so far and stil progressing at an amazing pace.
@saardean44819 ай бұрын
agreed for the most part. However there are legendary albums of which I make "personal remasters" so I can listen to it more loudly without having to wear ear protection because some guitar is mixed completely over the top with resonances that really hurt. Of course it is a taste thing , others say "guitars cant be too loud" or "there is no such thing as too much bass" but nonetheless. Imho some of the legendary albums could profit from a bit of resonance suppression tbh. But thats just my taste and opinion . Dont shoot me!
@saardean44819 ай бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio its nuts you are right. i find also amazing that we have the best tools and best audio systems in history but on the other hand have a lot of music with the smallest dynamic range in history. Millions of dollars heavy studios and a -3lufs master comes out. Thats what amazes me. That there is still a loudness war. It hurts but its true
@tendingtropic77789 ай бұрын
if theyre so close, i very much prefer the looks of soothe 2
@MerajTypeBeat9 ай бұрын
I had a gut feeling that you’d be making this comparison video. Just what I needed to hear, a comparison of the two. Thank you! 🙏
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
You're welcome! A good friend pointd me to SA-3, for some reason i didnt see it via normal publicing channels.
@zazyczech9 ай бұрын
Thanks for comparison. One advantage, which I can definetelly see for PT HDX user is price comparison to Soothe Live.
@mikemccormick16249 ай бұрын
Another great video. Thanks! I hope the Windows version comes out soon. I noticed in your video that when switching between the two tracks that you first soloed one before muting the other, creating a short period of time when we hear both tracks soloed. In Cubase if you CTRL-Click on any solo button it will mute all the other tracks. This means that doing a CRTL-Click on the solo button of your muted track would automatically mute the previously soloed track. This would allow for a smooth transition between tracks without having to solo both tracks before muting one. But maybe you already knew that!😀
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
That's one way to do it, i have always hated that workflow since it can mess up wat you're trying to show with screengrabs and also in mixing. I left that in as a little ear cleanser ;-) Usuallu i go for a different solo option, i do that for 75% of the guitar part ;-)
@htmm51678 ай бұрын
Do these plugins determine the difference between what may be a resonance or do they duck the fundamental and overtones as well
@whitenoisestudio8 ай бұрын
Resonance only - as seen in comparison to surrounding frequencies. So its not harmonics reduction but things like guitar fizz or a honky note in a voice.
@solarion338 ай бұрын
I'm hearing a huge difference between them when you engaged the delta , the SA-3 is more surgical in removing resonant frequencies while soothe 2 is removing way more stuff so its more of a shaping plugin for harsh sources in general , SA-3 is more subtle imo.
@mygoogle15254 ай бұрын
Would this work live or does it indroduce to much latency? Do you know anything like sooth for live performance?
@fredtimothy9409 ай бұрын
This is an awesome plugin. Now we just need mcdsp to make a split eq clone to complete the blue collar alternate paradise
@jessicad.5559 ай бұрын
I prefer TBPRoAudio DSEQ3...😀
@Jazzguitar009 ай бұрын
The price is definitely better!
@jessicad.5559 ай бұрын
@@Jazzguitar00 I think Soothe is highly overpriced. Price aside, DSEQ3 is much more flexible and has a more transparent sound to my ears.
@---pp7tq9 ай бұрын
Not the first time I hear DSEQ3 is better than Soothe. Yet try out RESO too.
@solarion334 ай бұрын
been listening again , also in comparison to Dove. I think sooth 2 does the better job and "Transparency" is not really a selling point when it comes to this type of plugin , you either use it very gently or heavily and sooth 2 does great job on the heavy side , with lots of sound shaping while it can also be used more gently. its a mixing plugin. Dove is more a Mastering plugin I think or so it is being marketed and I don't really see the point of all the analog modeling. and the SA-3 has the advantage of running on DSP but I wasn't too impressed by it.
@PressPushRecords9 ай бұрын
I still prefere soothe2
@SerhoYalci4 ай бұрын
On the female vocal you didnt have fast attack on the sa-3 while having fast attack on soothe.. imo sa-3 it much better it takes more out of the resonance without effecting the Signal
@ES60Hz9 ай бұрын
It is disturbing to hear their difference when you mute or put both of them on solo between the passages. Why don't you use "Enable solo on selective tracks"?
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
Because enable on solo is horrid when you want to do proper mixing in a project ;-) But disturbing, really?
@ES60Hz9 ай бұрын
@@whitenoisestudioSometimes the difference is so tiny, like a bit of color difference, at that time it is critical. For me, at least (:
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
I can understand ;-) Actually I thought about it a few seconds about it and decided to keep it in. It resets you ears in a way which makes the nitpicking on differences even more superfluous. On the guitar a/b part i have smooth transitions.
@Tekkerue9 ай бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio I agree that an immediate A/B is preferable, although 'disturbing' is a bit much. lol In Reaper you can put both plugins on the same track, enable one and disable the other, select both plugins and then toggle between them with a keyboard shortcut. It makes A/Bing plugins and even groups of plugins really nice. Is there a way you can do something similar or do you need to have them on separate tracks?
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
@tekkerue I usually use either 2 send effect or groups where I route 1 audio track to those two. when you have one solo, the other mutes and when you mute that one, the other solos. You can see that in action at the first half or so with the guitars.
@soundhealer86619 ай бұрын
From what I'm hearing it's close but I tend to prefer SA-3 especially on guitars. What do also count is the CPU usage.
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
I can say that any change is mostly because of user error i.e. different settings. They're so close.
@Jazzguitar009 ай бұрын
The McDSP did sound a little better on the electric guitars. The McDSP channel strip acts a little glitchy for me at times so I'm going to stay away from them for awhile.
@VCVRackIdeas9 ай бұрын
soothe is better on distorted guitar 100%
@AudioAssassin9 ай бұрын
I have a gripe with Soothe2. It effects frequencies outside of the bands that you set up. I've recorded videos to demonstrate this issue and I'll soon send them to Oeksound. It will be interesting to see what they have to say but I'm expecting their repsonse to be some sort of copout excuse.
@Jazzguitar009 ай бұрын
Has the thought ever crossed your mind....that maybe there's a way to do it but you don't know how?
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
Well he's not wrong, soothe 2 works a bit outside the curve you set even by compensating for it a lot. But i dont see it as an issue.
@AudioAssassin9 ай бұрын
@@Jazzguitar00Lol, no.... I've had it for a very long time and I've fucked around with it to the point of utilising its full potential. The band type doesn't matter at all. If you are looking to pinpoint a particular frequency range it affects lots of frequencies on both sides of your selected band. The only thing you can do to SLIGHTLY remedy this problem is to set up shelves on both sides of the band and pull those shelves done to slightly reduce attenuation outside the band. But it doesn't help much. I had to resort to using Fabfilter Pro-Q3's dynamic band feature on one particular project to attenuate a specific frequency range but of course that doesn't have attack and release settings so that was problematic also. I just hope that Oeksound will do something about the issue in future.
@G-O-N-x9 ай бұрын
Doesn't putting a low and a high pass filter on soothe2 around the range you want to affect resolve the issue ?? Of course it would only work if you wanna affect ONE specific range
@ChrisPFuchs6 ай бұрын
Yeah. I feel the same. I'm actually really liking the SA-3.
@aemythjensen9 ай бұрын
They do sound too similar. I own Soothe 2 so I'll just keep using it.
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
Yup, same for me.
@d-zone9 ай бұрын
MAC only? Not the best system for pro-mastering.
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
At the moment, yes.
@AG-mz7vm9 ай бұрын
Clickbait title. I think you are better than this Marlon. The McDSPSA-3 is a great plugin and before Soothe there were many Spectral EQs (f.e.Voxengo Soniformer, Melda Productions MSpectralDynamics, Toneboosters SibilanceV3). So please stop pretending that Oeksound is the inventor of these kind of plugins.
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
So what exactly clickbait since it exactly tells what I talk about in the video?
@AG-mz7vm9 ай бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio The title for your Soothe 2 review is "Oeksound SOOTHE 2 - Vst Plugin Review". Something similar to this would be the right thing to write for McDSPSA-3. Not implying that they ripped off Soothe2, which will get you more clicks than "McDSPSA-3 -Vst Plugin Review"
@whitenoisestudio9 ай бұрын
in other words - you dont like the title. And that's fine, no problem there. I will go in a bit deper here on youtube video titeling - Don't confuse engaging with clickbait - clickbait is something which sais something while the actual content is not delevering on what is promised - which I never ever do. Engaging is to tickle you into clicking something. Ideally the title you suggest would be working - heck I even prefer that. In reality unfortunately it is something that won't work. Mcdsp sa-3 is not something which is compelling enough for many viewers to click on , i learned that with the sa-2 plugin. And I dont spend this huge amount of time to simple have a dead video on publishing. Blame the audience, not me. Soothe 2 absolutely is engaging for many. You can trust me when I say i have some idea of what works and what doesnt , i spend an awful lot of time studying and understanding audience.