Diesel Swap F100? Autorestomod Episode 463

[@elburno454]

The only bumpside diesel swap that has ever interested me was the guy in the Facebook groups that had an Isuzu diesel engine in his shortbed. The original owner of the truck had the diesel engine installed new back in the early '80's I think. The guy said that the truck could knock down about 35MPG out on the highway! That's a good swap to make a long distance cruiser, and it's not any heavier than what the original frame, suspension, and brakes were meant for.

[@GooeyThaGamer]

Since it’s such a light truck a 4BT would be the best option. My buddy’s dad has a killer ‘77 F250 with a 12 valve and it’s a beast!

[@warrenmcelroy4718]

Since he already has an entire truck with a 7.3 I think that would be best.... but, a 3.9/5.9 Cummins engine can make ANYTHING Awesome!

[@mitchf1508]

Wow... I knew Cam knows his stuff, but I was really impressed with his diesel knowledge on this episode.. I think Road Kill put a turbo from a 7.3 on a V6 in the Rotsun or something like that! You can do whatever you want with whatever you got... Just depends on what the end result you are looking for!

[@jeremymurphy7320]

Roadkill put 7.3 PSD turbo on an old 5.0 and it made upwards of either 600 ft lbs or hp, cant remember...either way, it was nuts.

[@SoonerDan77]

Diesel swaps are like LS swaps, overdone. Now a 428 Cobra Jet on the other hand......

[@lilorbielilorbie2496]

Daniel Heald If I see another ls swapped into Anything I think I'm gonna puke. I'm sorry people but the world Does Not revolve around the small block chevy.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Funny thing is, Survival Motorsports has a 390 (with truck heads) that pulled some super numbers.

[@randysrestoration]

@@AutoRestoMod and it costs a small fortune and gets 5 mpg. Only diesel I would consider is a 2020 6.7 & a 10 speed. I have owned a few 7.3 1999 and newer trucks and you couldnt pay me enough to put one in a F100. My last 7.3 cost me more per mile than any other daily driver I have ever owned. Good when new but after that a money pit. The 7.3 left me stranded more times than my other 300 vehicles combined.

[@johnburch6927]

Along with all you discussed. Frame strength seriously needs to be considered and boxing the rails would be a good idea.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Agreed.

[@victormartin9300]

You hit the nail on the head at the end. Once you change the purpose of the older F100's, you'll always be chasing the dragon. Bigger engines need better braking on the old girls (drums just don't do it on my 71). Heavier loads need bigger better suspension (and frame). But like my dad always said, if you got enough money.... Love the content guys, keep up the great work.

[@dustyrhodes9422]

I have a 69 f350 wrecker 390 4sp drum all around and a 70 f350 rollback 390 4sp drums also, never had issue with stopping. but I do not use shoes from most parts stores (orielly , autozone) I do pay more and get them from napa. better material pads. plus I take apart once yr and clean flush system. my 70 f350 390 4sp dump truck had disk on front but dos not stop any quicker or better then other with drums

[@victormartin9300]

@@dustyrhodes9422 I agree with using good parts and maintenance. The only problem I had when towing was a 26' 1970 Layton travel trailer going down a 6% grade when it's electric brakes went out. Admittedly I had the poor thing over loaded. That was about 30 years ago. Recently I replaced everything except the portioning valve, lines, and fluid. I just can't get get it to stop like it should. I'm going to flush the system to see what comes out. I may look into switching to a booster system.

[@Str8sixfan]

I really loved this episode. There was a guy on Power Tour years ago that had a lowered 73-77 half ton with a powerstroke 7.3 swapped in there. It was just so cool seeing something different. But yeah from a dollars and sense (meant to misspell that) perspective, really hard to debate the 12v idea.

[@Zach-k2p]

Got a 5.9 Cummins in my 72 f100 if you need any help or tips... I got you Currently working on a 3.9 Cummins into a 48 f1 as well that’ll be fun

[@kentuckysleepyhollowband1611]

Hey man glad I seen your comment I am doing a 5 9 Cummins swap 12 valve in my 72 crew cab dually I was curious to Howard get the original speedometer gauge to work with the engine and transmission it is a 47rh not the 47re any tips are info or advice would be greatly appreciated thank you for your time

[@devinburks6721]

Really enjoyed this video , you should do more segments like this. I’m currently swapping a 5.8 into my 79 dentside . A video talking about that would be cool. Love what you guys are doing !

[@arturovela6645]

I’ve read of people swapping in a 4bt cummins and getting some killer mileage out of it!

[@chucksgarage7165]

Yep. I was gonna mention the 4BT. Makes a lot more sense in a half ton truck.

[@trkinwithmikey]

You can also use an R 2.8 make a great daily driver and they come turn key

[@DragPakMerc]

I agree that putting a big truck diesel in a F100/F150 doesn't make a lot of sense, if you're looking to build a practical rig. But I've seen small Perkins, Mercedes and Kubota diesels swapped into half-ton Fords, and they actually work pretty well, if you're not looking to build a hot rod. Weight isn't excessive, they have power enough for towing, and mileage is excellent. Biggest downside (besides the fact you're pretty much on your own when it comes to working up a wiring harness, motor mounts, etc.) is they're pretty slow, particularly non-turbo variants. OTOH, a typical gas-engine half-ton slows way down as soon as you put a load on it, diesels don't much care. So if you're hauling or towing frequently, you're not actually giving up that much in the speed department. Anyway, interesting episode. I just thought I'd mention another possible way to go for anyone contemplating a diesel swap into a half ton.

[@RealWorldGarage]

I don’t think the f100 chassis is strong enough to support the 7.3. But and it’s a big but, if he’s wanting to build a head turner for shows, even daily drive it, but not “work” it. Go for it. Not enough sugar for a nickel to make that chassis “useable”.

[@darreldwalton8763]

Hate the noise. Hate the added expense. Hate having to deal with getting the things started if they've cold soaked for a couple of days at -15, even if it'll turn over, then the fuel has jelled. No thanks. I'll keep my injected 460/5 spd ZF that pulls our 26' camp trailer, or car hauler, or 24' Reinell cuddy at the speed limit all day long. In fact, I'm looking for another 93 or so F250 with the same running gear in my driver, to install into the 67 F100 4x4 that I inherited after my Dad passed a few years back.

[@HPTaxidermy1]

Body swap...move f100 body to the 97 chassis...use factory dash and firewall from the 97

[@warrenmcelroy4718]

He said it was wrecked, may be too much frame dammage

[@howardwhite9773]

I have a 1999 F250 Powerstroke and love it. Would I put a Powerstroke in anything lighter than an F250? No. Are the Fummins conversions interesting? Yes. Do I want one? Not really...

[@johnparrish9215]

I would not even consider putting an American V8 diesel engine in a half ton truck, it just to much weight. However, I would consider swaping in a Mercedes OM606. The Mercedes is fully mechanical injection, it's a high speed engine so your gasoline drive train will work, there are dozens of examples of this engine making over 600 horses reliably, and it only weighs around 460 pounds. Unfortunately the Turbo OM606 is very hard to find.

[@warrenmcelroy4718]

I don't see any issue with it

[@domenicwhocares4305]

Not my choice, you have to build what is more practical for you. Me, have no use to drive around a noise and more expensive per fill up truck.

[@warrenmcelroy4718]

Wasnt always like that though, I was running diesel pickups back when diesel pickups weren't cool haha, Highway fuel was only 85 cents per gallon and the red offroad fuel that I ran was less than 60 cents per gallon. 60 cents per gallon and 19 mpg in a '86 F350 4x4 with an ATS Turbocharged 6.9 with a 4 spd "it got a Turbo'd 7.3 and a ZF5 in '91" and 3:55's was about as good as it got back then. It ran pretty quiet even with a 3" straight pipe and riding i side the can with the window up the slight ticking sound of the engine and the whistle of the turbo sang a better tune than AnYtHiNg on the radio. Those were the good ole days though

[@red66chevy]

I think you guys passed over putting old cab and box on newer diesel frame and axles. which is just as much work but you get the bigger axles/brakes, heavier frame and springs.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Good idea.

[@trkinwithmikey]

Hey Jeff I sent you some pictures of an F100 that I caught up with at Walmart. I think he pulled it out of one of those box trucks. But I think If was actually going to put one in an actual F100 I would go with the r 2.8 I know it's more money that's a Turn-Key deal. I've seen F250s and 350s all with Cummins in them they actually do real well.

[@cheyennedogsoldiers]

This is something I've been thinking on for a while now. However my approach is a little different. You can find 9th gen F250's and 350 Powerstrokes with rotted out cabs but good frames. SOOO! My thought had been to find one and just do a 6th or 7th gen F series body swap. I think there's about a 2 inch difference in wheelbase. (Single cab long bed). But it would be simple to just move the rear axle forward and shorten the drive shaft.

[@cheyennedogsoldiers]

Oh and my other thought was, if you could find a 6th or 7th gen crew cab. this should fit onto a 10th gen Superduty Powerstroke 250 pr 350 supercab frame with the 8 foot bed. And yes, I know with this pandemic thing I have WAY to much time on my hands. LOL

[@AutoRestoMod]

Those kind of dreams are what keep me going during the pandemic...

[@warrenmcelroy4718]

@@cheyennedogsoldiers good greif man just say the actual year of the truck.... seriously though I just wanted to make a suggestion on your wheel base issue for the reg cab you mentioned, if it's no more than 2" of difference then you could just slide the entire bed back about an inch or inch and a half and I'd say itd be close enough to where you didn't notice it much inside the rear fender well, that would save you ALoT of work

[@stephenhotzjustdriveit]

My brother did an IDI to Powerstroke swap and biggest problem was wiring.

[@stephenhotzjustdriveit]

He was an ASE diesel mechanic at a Ford dealer at the time.

[@fenceplus5971]

I have a 67 f350 dually I pulled cab and found a f 450 frame with 7.3 and six speed .. what do you think ? Easy cab swap? Or should I fully restore the 352 fe and original frame Cost wise I'm getting the frame and motor super cheap.. so I'm having a hard time to not pass it up

[@AutoRestoMod]

Brother that's a decision I can't make for you.. I don't think it's going to fit on that frame very well. Most people just put the 6 speed and the 73 in the Ford frame. However, with a will and a welder you can do anything lol

[@andrewerrand2542]

Most helpful video I've ever watched on KZbin.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Thanks!

[@CJColvin]

This might be a stupid question but have you heard of the new 7.3L (gas) Godzilla V8 that Ford is making for the new 2020 Ford Super Duty.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Have now!

[@OldeCarrGuy]

I say Run what it brung! If it was built for a small block, big block or diesel, keep it that way. Otherwise you'll always be chasing "it". Gremlins do not go away on their own!

[@MrShanetuc]

My momma always said that Diesels are the devil. In Australia we only ran up to 351 Cleveland, so the thought of a 460 is 😍😍😍

[@warrenmcelroy4718]

Well what Mama Don't know won't hurt Her😂

[@andrewe7165]

How about a chat about the different gas engines available? I'm restoring a 78 Bronco and stuck between the original 351M, a 400 or going 460. Love the videos!

[@AutoRestoMod]

Good idea Andrew, we are looking at doing a series like this as folks seem to like them.

[@waynep343]

Find an non electronic early NPR 3.9td with a manual trans not the electromatic that needs a computer and a bunch of sensors to shift.

[@warrenmcelroy4718]

I have one for sale right now' its a '98 industrial engine with an inline Bosch A-Pump. $1500

[@peterhatch1583]

How did you mount 5.9 12 value cummins in to 1974 f350 2wd thks

[@AutoRestoMod]

That sounds like a fab job. I'm not even sure where to tell you to go

[@peterhatch1583]

@@AutoRestoMod i was asking to take the short cut i worked it out with out Modifying the pain its ok guys thks just the same

[@bladenrexroth2555]

I'd like to see a tuned up 6CT P Pump swap on a ISC 8.9. See a lot of the marine engines putting down 500-650hp. Wouldn't be difficult to put down more for a otr application. P Pump DT466's are putting down over 1000hp for sled pull trucks. I'm surprised no one has done this for the 6C or ISC engines based on how reliable the non sleeved 5.9 has been.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Great idea DEBOSS garage is more into that side of the fun. Check them out (not that they need any help from us LOL).

[@bladenrexroth2555]

@@AutoRestoMod already subscribed to them. Also thought the 3.3 cummins would be great for a 1/2 ton swap. Its light and is probably as tuneable as any other cummins.

[@XEFairmont]

Diesel swaps are like turkey and gravy.....I'm off to sleep!

[@AutoRestoMod]

😆😂😀😆

[@joshuacrooker6489]

Love how these guys make fun of the powerstroke guys acting like they're engines are made of gold when the cummins guys think their rusted rotted 5.9 with 280k miles and a rod knock with no pump is worth $4,250 firm lol

[@AutoRestoMod]

Both end of that spectrum are nutty.

[@elcam84]

You are going about the swap the wrong direction. You should be swapping cabs and beds from the F100 to the 7.3 truck. Cab swaps of older trucks to newer frames are pretty common and get you all the better hardware but a cooler looking old truck. I wouldn't use any ford engine newer than that gas or diesel as their newer stuff just isn't known for reliability other than the 5.0 liter engine.

[@AutoRestoMod]

That is a good point. We didn't "go there", but that is and has been a common theme. I think the chassis on the F250 might be a little longer between the tires, but I'm not sure.

[@littlemike2349]

Quick question, with the 302 windsor what fuel should/can I use? I know I should use the Premium but can I use regular, Im asking because I dont want to mess anything up.

[@AutoRestoMod]

The 302 should run fine on regular, just keep an ear out for pinging. If it starts that mess, move up to the mid grade.

[@littlemike2349]

@@AutoRestoMod thanks, the trucks looking really good keep up the good work!

[@rob69270]

It's true, there's a lot more aftermarket for the Cummins, but there kinda needs to be because they're such garbage that parts need to be readily available if you wanna keep one running. The 7.3 powerstroke on the other hand, doesn't need any aftermarket support. The designer of that engine sold his soul to satan in exchange for the blueprint of the best diesel ever built....or ever will be built. I have an F350 that I regularly tow 100,000 pounds with and I can go down the interstate pulling that load at 120 mph @ barely over idle speed. The 7.3 also has artificial intelligence---most people dont know that. The AI in the Powerstroke is what they based the TV show Knight Rider on. They were originally going to use an F250 as KITT but it was too advanced and the producers had to dumb it down enough to make it more realistic, so that's why they used the Trans Am and Hasselhoff. I'm kidding, obviously. Put whatever powerplant you want in that beautiful old truck. Whatever you do will undoubtedly be entertaining and informative. Stay safe and be well, love the show!

[@AutoRestoMod]

You had me right up to the KITT part...LOL

[@AndrewWallacelive]

Is is a great idea? No. Is it a good idea? Debatable. Would it be grin-inducing raucous fun? Absolutely. If you’ve got the time and the budget and the perseverance to see it through, go for it. Just don’t try to sell me your half-finished diesel swap...I

[@AutoRestoMod]

We found one of those on Facebook Market Place...we passed.

[@nated7229]

I'm not in to modern engine swaps that's why I like my classics. Diesel is for freightliners or kenworths etc..... I could care less about gas mileage.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Then you'd enjoy the 8 MPG the F100 gets. 😆😬

[@jasonmushersee]

see that all the time with mud trucks. body swap only option

[@amiamso]

Your guy needs to take a look into emissions laws existing and pending. In California I can no longer register my F450 or F550, his state may be headed towards the same stupidity. Hopefully not but I would look before I leap.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Great point! I'll pass that along.

[@hotrodray6802]

Didja see the snow mobile engine in an RX 7 ??

[@AutoRestoMod]

Nope.

[@shwanjones8134]

Only diesel I choose is idi

[@Maples01]

I'd like an Izuzu 4 diesel in my 73 Econoline, room is crampt.

[@AutoRestoMod]

I've heard several Bronco guys talk about that one.

[@the.hard.truth123]

I stayed with gas and used a i300

[@theovallas]

Nothin sounds better than a deep, growling V8!

[@AutoRestoMod]

A chatty Diesel does run a close second...

[@javijuka1987]

Deutz swap 🙌🏻

[@marciolima2501]

here in brazil we have some f100 with diesel engine (mwm229\mwm229t) and everyone said that feeling like drive a pickup like a truck . these engine is like a tank , is very tuff . the original stcructure (frame) need some mod to hold the Weight in front for a 4 cilinder in line ( i saw a guy use a 6 cilinder model (same engine 229)) , is like a monster . but reality from here to usa is very different in these way. v8 are easy to find in usa with cheap gas . in brazil v8 is expensive ( gas r expensvie too) ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-Series_(fifth_generation) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3_SpqyEh8yNmJI kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5WkpKd8Z6ypiac

[@clevelandmaker386]

phew!.....I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DIESEL SWAP YOURS! DONT DO THAT MAN.. THATS LIKE....... PUTTING A 550 CHEVY IN A STARLINER! NOPE! BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING....THERES A DUDE IN KANSAS THAT PUTTING A 7.3 IN A MUSTANG......WESTEN... I THINK!

[@AutoRestoMod]

Nope I would probably go 460. But I'll leave the diesel stuff to Cam and his mad scientist contraptions...

[@lilorbielilorbie2496]

No No No No just No. Just because you can does not mean you should. O and did I say No.

[@AutoRestoMod]

I agree...Cam...not so much. Now I'm kinda scared to let him borrow the truck.😂😀

[@lilorbielilorbie2496]

@@AutoRestoMod Tell Cam that when he swaps in a 7.3 in his Mustang and makes it his daily driver you might think about putting one into your truck, But he's gotta do his car first and we want to see it here on your channel.

[@olmoe1167]

Good video, guys.....BUT,, Diesel anything is NOT my cup of tea.... I've never cared or had any interest in them.... Even when I attend Car/Hotrod shows,,, If I see it's got a Diesel in it ,, I just walk on past.... AND not to just dump on Diesel's.... I feel the same way on LS and Coyote swaps too... OH,,,, AND a Chevy motor thrown into anything that is NON- GM,,, WELL, it's been done SOoooo much over the decades, that to me, it's almost a Joke.... and so boring.... I once heard an older guy at a carshow say to his buddy.... "Anyone can work on/Build a Chevy motor,,, BUT, It takes a REAL Mechanic to work on/Build a FORD motor".... His buddy said, "I agree",,BUT you've also got to throw in those old Mopar HEMI'S, ....lol

[@AutoRestoMod]

Not mine either, but Cam loves them. And that there us what makes this hobby great!

[@yeboscrebo4451]

Nooooooooooo

[@AutoRestoMod]

🤔👍

[@jesseduke694]

You better not have ruined your truck by putting a damn diesel in it!! I didnt even watch your video!! I won't watch such buchury!!

[@AutoRestoMod]

LOL Nope we discuss it not drop it.

[@raulgiovannimoreno1005]

To much bla bla bla!!!

[@AutoRestoMod]

Thanks for the input...won't change a thing we do!

[@VintageVaughnVehiclces]

My 1977lincon with 460 it eats so much gasoline I do t drive it. Having to buy non ethanol. Fuelis almost $4 a gallon. The diesel running black diesel is $1 a gallon. Mercedes made diesel cars for the same reason better mpg. What is the choice to remove the 460 and replace with what?