Digital Homicide: Finale | Down the Rabbit Hole

On August 8th, 2016, I uploaded a video about Digital Homicide Studios, a universally reviled game developer, assuming their strange behavior was finished. I was wrong.
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[@dougthedonkey1805]

Ramine: “I want $10,761,000.” Judge: “Did you say $12,550,000?” Ramine: “Yes, your honor, $15,326,00.”

[@yvesnyfelerph.d.8297]

Shlt like this is the very definition of abuse of the legal system. Everyone contributing to this is to blame, primarily lawyers who flood the courts with this nonsense. In my definition, everyone who studies and practices law is at best a dubious character. In any case a completely unproductive, superfluous parasite of society that we could all do perfectly fine without.

[@Slann88]

Emperor Ssraeshza my god what a bunch of verbal effluence. Bringing “left” and “right” in to get up votes. Pretty lame.

[@Slann88]

Emperor Ssraeshza and of course no mention of the number of “right wing” people guilty of subverting the justice. I’m guessing you close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and go “la la la” every time Republicans downright break the fucking law. Being a criminal doesn’t have a political leaning mate. Funnily enough anyone can break the law and/or distort it.

[@notaheretic6675]

@@yvesnyfelerph.d.8297 i see a disciple of Ron Swanson

[@funninoriginal6054]

@@Slann88 I agree so hard, people are so stubborn on those political sides that they take literally every fucking chance to bash at the other political side they dont like, instead of focusing on stuff that really matter. Politics were a mistake imo. Dunno if i could articulate myself very well, but ehhhh

[@jetfire851]

"Emboldened by his rudimentary legal skills" is the best description for James Romine I've ever heard.

[@planescaped]

I'd of gone for fucktarded rat-child.

[@OrangeyChocolate]

Doug Glassman Certainly the most eloquent description of James Romine I’ve ever heard. Then again, ‘Eloquent’ is Fredrik’s middle name.

[@drakkenmensch]

The man's extent of legal skills is clearly defined by the size of his Duning-Kruger Syndrome affliction.

[@duanemcclure8324]

I love it! The scripts on these are priceless!

[@duanemcclure8324]

@@OrangeyChocolate His delivery has a certain 'class' to it, doesn't it? I love listening to his descriptions. Awesome channel!

[@PuzzlePulsar]

"Talk to the used cars salesmen that run steam" How does that make sense when you're a key reseller/key giveaway? YOU ARE THE USED CAR SALESMAN.

[@Slash0mega]

he is kindof correct, steam is more akin to a new car salesman that sales all types of brands, even the deathtraps that digihom put out. of course when steam auto finally stops selling the digihom brand of half assed piles of junk then steam auto is the bad guy for NOT selling the deathtraps.

[@themajesticnarwhal3273]

He is like a used car salesman that only sells wagons with 3 wheels claiming they're cars

[@wokenotbroke5976]

Exactly! Also good for valve to fight against thier users information to be released. These Brothers sold shit and everyone knew it ...except THEM! Lol its a greek comedy.

[@EarlFaulk]

Both of the brothers are probably insufferable narcissists. At least that is what Ive gathered from these videos. So it is always someone else's fault

[@BungLer]

*slaps roof of Game* This baby can be rehashed and asset flipped so many times you'll barely recognize 'er.

[@goldenjoeblow]

The ironic thing is if they didn't go so hard after Jim Sterling they probably could have continued to just be another shovelware developer in a sea of shovelware developers on Steam, having probably been forgotten about since Jim Sterling's whole thing was playing shitty games off of Steam and he moves on very quickly and people have short memories.

[@adamg7984]

Oh god, without a doubt they could have continued had they not dug their own graves. Their behavior was entirely their own choosing, they made the worst possible choice at every single crossroad. What absolutely kills me about these idiots is how they legitimately think and believe that the world was just out to get them, that they didn't do anything wrong and everyone was picking on poor little Digital Homicide. They're the kind of people whom I think shouldn't be given the same life and freedoms of normal people with fully functioning minds.

[@101Volts]

Pot met Kettle.

[@artbargra]

The very definition of the Streisand Effect.

[@ekathe85]

The lesson is very clear, folks. If you're going to be proud, you better be good.

[@bluegum6438]

@@ekathe85 as an addendum: picking petty fights to shore up your fragile ego always eventually results in getting your ribs kicked in while everyone smirks and looks the other way

[@thesupermonad1332]

that pink loot toot mascot creature is terrifying

[@voidofspaceandtime4684]

It looks like something FNAF creator made before he made FNAF

[@thesupermonad1332]

omg yes! it really does

[@Mngalahad]

What? I thought it was really cute. Pretty generic but cute. Edit: I imagined myself hugging it and it triggered all of my instincts to get away. Or kill it.

[@krisfrosz133]

I actually saw the same creature as a mascot for an advertising company or something not far from where I live.

[@xplinux22]

It looks more like a lewd toot than anything.

[@mommilph]

I guess this is all that Romines of the brothers.

[@mal3k1th]

get out lmao

[@brandonbigler1516]

Truongasm 👌👌👌👌👌

[@Rangernewb5550]

Goddamnit

[@marthapozo4881]

Only top quality puns here! XD

[@echoes28]

Lol

[@soniczeds]

If Wario and Waluigi made games, this is the kind of shit they would do.

[@Gnarfledarf]

The entire WarioWare series is about Wario making games.

[@Santoryu90]

Gnarfledarf And that’s why it fits

[@patrickblakethesaint]

Don't you dare accuse my man Wario of such atrocities! Waluigi is a total cunt though...

[@Giant_SewerRat]

Wario didn't die for this.

[@thegreatterriblepetrie7158]

Gnarfledarf The Warioware series is about Wario tricking his friends into making games for him.

[@KonkeyVG]

Props to Valve for actually being pro-consumer for once and stepping in to defend the identity of those users.

[@kos2919]

To be fair giving away 100 personal info can destroy w company's reputation. No way they going to do that over some unclear lawsuit.

[@xxxEEHxxx]

Kos 291 sadly some companies do this. Yahoo gave out a customer’s info to Chinese authorities.

[@Dragonsamuari]

lol that's a good one. Valve only stepped in because the shitstorm that could follow would make them look bad. They don't give a shit about their consumers.

[@metademetra]

You can't publicize the names of hundreds of consumers. You just can't. How they thought that Valve would do it is a mystery

[@nathandam6415]

Valve is a privately owned company. Unlike others, Valve can do whatever it wants without earning the ire of their investors.

[@op-nl7dj]

"Valve has stopped business with digital homicide for attaching steam users" *You've gained karma*

[@mortarpestle.4267]

John Zoidberg OVERALL CHAOS: Low

[@TheManofthefuture101]

| Reputation | Steam Community : Liked

[@javajav3004]

People with IQ's of 2: Vilified

[@gracecalis5421]

**looks at all the other things ValvE did** *You have Evil Karma*

[@MaybeNotARobot]

"I expressed hope that that would lead to an end to the Romine brothers' bizarre behavior, but instead, it intensified." *Legendary enemy has mutated!*

[@Kimosabes2hot]

Welp, i just climbed out of one hole. Why not jump down another?

[@punished7030]

Carry a gun and at least one bullet

[@McDanny420]

Fancy .Fancington practice makes perfect right

[@Adamant_Consternation]

If you want to go deeper check out the on going madness of video game composer Alex Mauer.

[@Gunnofspades]

Is that what binging these videos can be called or would the be too dirty? Climbing in and out of holes.

[@apollotheimpaler5407]

666 like :>

[@Helpertin]

Hearing a man seriously report on the game "Not in my Crapper" was a true highlight, you can hear the contempt in your voice pronouncing that title, but you keep it together and professional. Well done.

[@Scorch428]

How dare you slander such timeless, iconic games as Not In my Crapper!

[@DoctorSpacebar]

Not in my Crapper: An emotional and engaging journey

[@WillieManga]

It was called Azzholes for a period of time. Ugh.

[@MaybeNotARobot]

"we've been fighting for lower prices and an open market" Says the company who tried to sue Jim Sterling for making a let's play of their game. If anything, that action is _hurting_ the indie game market, because some people who want to be indie developers might think that people view most indie devs as people like the Romine brothers.

[@lesterramos6468]

And it's people like him that makes you think whether an Open market is a good idea at all if we are expected to see cheap and lazy games like what they dish out. :P

[@dsandoval9396]

all those statements were so full of hypocrisy it's hard to believe it wasn't a joke.

[@OpenMawProductions]

An open market is absolutely a good idea. What the fuck?

[@gyflies]

The best part of that statement is the following screenshot taken from James's 100 users lawsuit. imgur.com/a/UpwvI68 As you can see, he claimed that he only lowered the prices because the users "forced" him into the low price market and it looks like he thinks those high prices were "reasonable." James never says exactly what he's thinking. Instead, he says things that make himself look good in a particular situation which is why he keeps contradicting himself.

[@plantain.1739]

@@OpenMawProductions I think open markets still need some restrictions to prevent things like this from happening.

[@mellowonline1]

Moderator from Digital Homicides Poop Games here. Just wanted to applaud you on the fantastic investigating done for the video. It is clear you have a lot of dedication for what you do. Despite what a lot of people are saying and from what a lot of people have been messaging me about, I am highly doubtful that the Romines are going to be returning to Steam, as even an idiot can see there will be more risk than reward for them, especially with the significantly higher load of games coming onto the platform, even if they did come back, they won't generate much revenue than in comparison to when the platform was significantly less noisy, but I am still getting pretty sick of the almost daily posts/messages of people telling me that they have returned and their only evidence is that the game is an asset flip. Regardless, I applaud you for putting this video together, and is a satisfying nail in the coffin of the company's legacy.

[@magma2680]

Mellow Online1 hey can I get a steam link? I've looked at close to 9000 games through steam exploration que and think i would lile to join the discussion on over priced games on steam

[@mellowonline1]

Sure. Don't usually self advertise something I'm linked to in a public area, but since it was requested, I'll make an exception steamcommunity.com/groups/digitalhomicides

[@magma2680]

thanks :)

[@rE-jq9ou]

You're a true hero, my friend :D

[@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni]

Keep up the good work! U guys are making steam a better place!

[@capnneckbeard847]

You have to wonder, did Romine genuinely think that he was going to make money out of his legal case? $10 million is an absurd amount, and I struggle to understand the man at all. I can honestly picture him sat in front of a computer, rubbing his hands together and waiting for a juicy paycheck only to be surprised when everything backfires. Also, Down the Rabbit Hole is one of the most interesting series on KZbin, so thank you.

[@Grungle466]

Capn Neckbeard I think it’s more of a fear tactic as a way to get people to pull their negative reviews, albeit still poor logic since they have to present their case to a civil court.

[@capnneckbeard847]

Agent Orange True, seeing an 8-figure sum on a legal document is definitely going to make you look twice.

[@elin111]

That's one of the most common scare tactics when filing frivolous lawsuits.

[@Shawn-tp9bu]

Capn Neckbeard If you have played Hotline Miami, go watch SquatchGaming. He's a great youtuber.

[@davey_boy94]

That's exactly what he wanted. This wasn't about bringing Sterling or Steam users down, it was all about money. He is a greedy slimy piece of shit that just wanted enough money to live his life carefree.

[@cherryistrash4080]

10:40 I can't fucking breath, the dude just gives up but they still used it as their ad. Holy God I'm crying

[@FredrikKnudsen]

I just about lost my mind when I found that video. It took a lot of self-control to keep from sharing it before this video was released.

[@cherryistrash4080]

Fredrik Knudsen A reply 😍 But really, that's hilarious. I wish I could talk to the dude that recorded it, ask him why he just decided "Screw it, this sucks."

[@clinicalobsession616]

I have a feeling they didn’t even watch the video or something. Also awooooo~

[@silent_stalker3687]

Awoo~

[@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange]

Silent_Stalker No lewd the awooed!

[@vjm3]

I want so badly to know what exactly Jim's lawyer said to him to make him drop the case. Like, imagine the thorough fucking that occured while the lawyer detailed precisely all the shit he'd do to him if he didn't drop the case?

[@FredrikKnudsen]

I know, right? I'm under the impression that even Jim doesn't know what he said, just that it made him drop the case. Robert implies that he threatened to pull Robert into the case, so that might have had something to do with it.

[@InfernalLawyer]

I would LOVE to know that too. Sadly the only specific information that we have is "My lawyer apparently told the fuckers what we would do if they continued the case" from Jim, and "They threatened to involve my brother" from James. That being said, I just re-watched a part of Jim's vid on the lawsuit, and he says his lawyer explained "how their little argument would play out in court". It sounds like Robert realized that the claims he was making were going to be completely demolished in court when examined, or that the process would require doing that he REALLY didn't want to do (like the aforementioned involvement of James). One way or another, we know Jim basically threatened them into fucking off. Which is fair enough when someone's already sunk their teeth into your arse.

[@SunnyAznable]

InfernalLawyer I’d say perhaps less threatened, and more illustrated the reality of the situation with a level of clarity and hard facts that the Romines simply had no grasp of. That becomes really clear when you hear Jim do the whole blow-by-blow. James seemed to never really understand any of what was going on at any given stage.

[@krisfrosz133]

I'd like to imagine the lawyer spoke to James Romine like talking to a real caveman. Lawyer: You, bad man. Jim Sterling, good man. Suing Jim Sterling, very bad. Go to courtroom, nononono. James Romine: Durrrrr....but me want money. Lots of money. Suing people, lots of money! Laywer: [Facepalms] Look, suing people, you go to jail. Jail has no money. James Romine: Durrrrr.....that no good. Ok, me no sue Jim Sterling no more. Something like that. XD

[@FredrikKnudsen]

It's been just over a year since my first video, so I thought it would be prudent to return to the topic. I'll never forget how I thought that Digital Homicide was finished, then literally days after the video went live, they sued 100 steam users. Let's hope something like that doesn't happen again! I also allowed a bit more playfulness into the scripting of this one to mirror the first video's style; it was a nice change of pace.

[@FredrikKnudsen]

Nope, literature and writing.

[@Blorp52]

Fredrik Knudsen bro you HAVE to do a video on Randy Stair then!

[@AMoss248]

Damn I cant believe its only been around a year, your channel is a beast. I'm always excited when I see you've uploaded something new!

[@petehill7280]

Hello, Mr Knudsen. How are you doing? Are you well? I hope so. Are you planning on covering Leoian and the Project 2nd fiasco at some point?

[@alyssapaull2128]

Fredrik Knudsen you are my favorite person thank you

[@indeimaus]

Can you take me on more jazz journeys?

[@FredrikKnudsen]

Only the finest that Kevin MacLeod can provide.

[@harrytheninj6328]

Indeimaus ! Indie what are you doing here Don't do a digital homisouls Or do It would be fun

[@justnatsuki6526]

Soooo... best dark souls feet when?

[@yolomationanimation9784]

Nobody mentioned the bee movie... I'm proud!

[@tac7288]

Wait...ya like Jazz?

[@SQUIZZLER24]

“The level of distress referenced is on par with stealing somebody’s child and pretending the child had been killed.” I fucking lost it. Absolutely incredible.

[@The_gaming_archaeologist]

Digital Homicide and their Asset-flipping kind are a blight on the indy gaming scene, filling stores with trash so people can't find the many rare gems indy companies can make.

[@Takimeko]

They're a blight on the PC side of indie gaming. The PS4 does get it's share of shitty indie games, and from what I hear people mostly flock to the Xbox One and Switch instead of those two platforms.

[@ephemeralViolette]

@@Takimeko Pretty sure games have required signing on consoles since the 5th generation or so, so it's far less likely for a shitty product to be released. Normal PCs don't require signing to run an executable, so shitty products are far easier to release.

[@OsirisLord]

So the funny thing is that in their phone call with Jim Sterling, Robert Romaine argues that critics are bad for the industry. But the Romaines clearly don't remember the video game market crash of 1983 where the industry lost 2/3's of its value in a single year and the cause of it was far too many crappy games flooding the market with no proper quality control and no proper way for consumers to make informed decisions. So ironically Digital Homicide studios are participating in actions that is bringing the Steam marketplace closer to an economic collapse than critics criticizing shitty asset-flips for being shitty asset-flips.

[@Ramsey276one]

Nintendo Switch is almost suffering from this... At least it’s easy to find good Games with the tabs/filters Still weird to find phone apps and infamous assetflips there! XD

[@franciscobrisolladeoliveir9596]

Welp, time to sit back, relax and listen to Fredrik's smooth voice

[@Raul-md8bd]

Francisco Oliveira have a nice day

[@God-ch8lq]

nice cirno pfp

[@Jackal_El_Lobo34]

Its absolutely laughable how James Romine managed to tank his own company during a time where the man they blamed for all of their failure wasn’t even talking about them. How ironic.

[@slizzardshroomer9666]

Narcissists can't handle the idea that they're not perfect lol. Ironically makes them create worse things than anyone else.

[@TotallyRadicalShow]

This is easily one of my new favorite channels.

[@RagnarTheGrey]

It's ironic how perfect their studio name was. Seeing as they inadvertently tried to kill the market of quality digital games in greenlight.

[@DanielSantosAnalysis]

WE HAVE COME FULL CIRCLE

[@bruno17289]

You scared me with the Finale part, I tough it was the finale of your show. Your show is awesome

[@FredrikKnudsen]

Don't worry, if I have my way, I'll be doing this for a while yet.

[@arosenthal3318]

Fredrik Knudsen I really like that you actually read the comments! Also I just wanted to say that this video is wonderful.

[@bruno17289]

Thanks Frederick KZbin needs more channels like you, keep the good work and thanks for all the videos

[@FourDozenEggs]

Fredrik Knudsen Awesome. I love your videos. I never even knew about things like the Time Cube until I found your channel. Keep up the good work, Fredrick.

[@figxre516]

@@FredrikKnudsen *said 2 years ago*

[@frankostanko8369]

Digital Homicide is like the Chris-Chan of the gaming industry. Insane to the point where its not really funny anymore...and instead its oddly interesting.

[@micromints1735]

CaffeinatedCookie I find it depressing and sympathize with them more than I should. Christine is literally disabled, so it's just cruel to mock her.

[@VYKco]

dont you mean "he"?

[@NoeLPZC]

Dan Mongoose Fuck off.

[@VYKco]

lol science and facts don't care about your mental delusions.

[@VYKco]

jesus christ get a grip bub, I don't see why you would be so offended unless you were trans yourself lol

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

...So Robert Romine looked at what had happened, and basically said 'my brother has ruined me, so I'm going to go out of my way to repeat his mistakes'

[@trumpwillgo26th59]

Digital Homicide are my new favorite comedic duo. Sorry Abbot and Costello...

[@destructokid1337]

Abbot and Costello shall forever be in my heart...And my dvd collections. Now I wanna watch Lost in Alaska again.

[@edward18517]

eh, I'll take Bulk and Skull over DH myself

[@krisfrosz133]

Abbott and Costello acted stupid for laughs. The Romines are legit brain dead. How are they able to function with no brain activity is beyond me.

[@winup9417]

@@krisfrosz133 woosh

[@noah480]

Thank god for Fredrik Knudsen.

[@ekathe85]

I'm Fredrik Fucking Knudsen son

[@satellite964]

I still don't get it, WHO WAS BUYING THEIR GAMES?!

[@elin111]

trading card farmers.

[@luxvult5202]

I sometimea buy games at 0.5 dollars when they appear, so maybe me, lol.

[@elephystry]

People who want free steam keys.

[@YamiFrankc]

Jim

[@WallaWaller]

My friend bought Nuclear Strike, I think he refunded it though.

[@krisfrosz133]

5:37 - "I'm going back to the work force and watching what's really going on." - James Romine Wow! Just wow! So all those game developers (eg. Blizzard, Nintendo, Naughty Dog) who have spent hours and hours and hours making games are not considered work? From pre-production to QA to crunch time (which I'm sure the Romines never did any of this for their games) - is that not part of being in a work force? This goes to show how brain dead the Romones are. They clearly have no clue how game development or the Internet works. And to this day, they have not once wrote an official apology message to the public. They still live in denial, still think they did nothing wrong and still trying to con people with Loot Toot Games. Once a con man, always a con man.

[@RoastedLocust]

Yeah, when I saw he complained about having to rejoin the work force, it seemed like he was admitting that the games he made didn't take any work. He's up there with televangelists, psychics, and other con artists just looking for easy money they don't have to work for.

[@gyflies]

I know this is over a year old but I thought I should let you know that Loot Toot is no more as their website no longer exists (also their twitter and facebook pages are dead and all their steam groups were banned).

[@Scorch428]

I think they would have been ok if they just stayed silent. Once you give in and reply to comments, you auto lose. If you never acknowledge your wrongs, you end up like Trump and somehow never have to step down...

[@SamuraiCypher]

“The Romones” Blitzkreig Bop

[@linus1703]

In his defense it's clear he meant going back to the work force rather than self employment. The different between the two isn't the tasks you do it's that a game developer at a AAA studio would presumably have a regular pay check.

[@flaminashes4693]

I wonder what the Judge was thinking during the lawsuit with Jim?

[@gwendolynstata3775]

"I can't believe I went to university for this shit."

[@Mngalahad]

I really wonder what happened. Did it end after 5 minutes or did they seriously stay there for hours? remember: james was sueing jim for the damage he dealth... to another company. not the company sueing jim for the damage he dealth to said company. IT MAKES NO SENSE, james wasn't being affected. thats why it was dismissed, as fredick said.

[@Lightscribe225]

"I could be out playing golf"

[@MukuonChannel]

"My feet hurt." "Clearly this Sterling has done nothing wrong." "The plaintiff won't shut up."

[@sorrowinsanity]

"This is why I drink."

[@wardedthorn6523]

Ah yes, I can definitely see how he is entitled to TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS because of a handful of negative reviews

[@hyperion3145]

He also wanted them to pay for “1,000 hours spent on learning law from Google” which actually was on the statement

[@rigistroni]

"If you want to be angry at someone for fleecing people of their hard earned cash talk to the used car salesman that runs steam" would be a sick burn in any other context

[@WillieManga]

He is one to talk. -_-

[@rockybutters3078]

Imagine if Digital Homicide spent as much effort into game developing as they did in preparing lawsuits against the steam community

[@manospondylus4896]

*OH BOY 3 AM!*

[@arkaua]

I mean, it's 9pm here.

[@duvvang8664]

OH BOY 7 PM!

[@ChunkyKongGaming]

OH BOY TIME ZONES

[@thegoatkingchannel2377]

6 pm for me

[@TuetchenR]

Disappointed Turtle 1:46 here

[@Pleasestoptalkingthanks]

Valve: Nobody takes our sucker- WE MEAN CUSTOMER’S- money except us!

[@BichaelStevens]

A spin-off of "24 million registered los-users"

[@darkfoxfurre]

Bruh.. If they spent over 2 years making asset flipped games.. Why don't they just *make an actual game?*

[@staringcorgi6475]

Because they don’t know how to do that and run their company as a game factory kinda like ea

[@cornbredx]

Just a fun more current update: for several months in 2020 someone (probably Robert, I really struggle to believe James is really involved let alone real) under the guise of Digital Homicide Uncensored wrote several blogs whining about all of this as an attempt at an expose on what happened. Seemingly, to tell their side of the story (its the same nonsense Robert keeps saying). As of now the site is gone but you can still find the blogs on the way back machine if your up for reading the ravings of a delusional scammer. Such a bizarre story Jim accidentally fell into.

[@ZyxieRumor]

So wait, the reason why James Romine dropped the lawsuit against Jim Sterling wasn't because of Jim's lawyer Hoffman giving James the harsh dose of reality of this lawsuit, but because Robert Romine refuse to be part of the lawsuit? Let's be honest here. Even *IF* Robert Romine joined his brother on the lawsuit, I don't think he had an attorney in the first place. So I call that bullshit. They just can't admit their mistakes.....

[@hyperion3145]

Zyxie_Rumor, Just a Geek That and they were representing themselves because they couldn’t afford a lawyer because of the horrendous amount of money they were spending

[@QuichePotatoes]

Damn these videos are nice, and we get an upload one day before saturday even better!

[@chrysanth.5700]

I never noticed that trend. Does Fredrik really upload on Saturdays this often? Is this something I just have been missing this whole time?

[@marc7248]

cool

[@GlazeBattleBorn]

QuichePotatoes nice picture lad.

[@ananthropomorphictalkinggo6641]

We call that Friday where I come from.

[@tonydragon784]

Love your content Fredrik, I found your DSP video randomly and I watched every video after that one, Please keep doing what you do!

[@luciejohnson4081]

God I want this man to help me with my school projects

[@ddjsoyenby]

all these years later and this is still the best example of how not to respond to criticism.

[@jp73987]

Chris Chan is still number 1 in my books

[@Feasco]

@@jp73987 Chris chan wasn't responding to criticism, they were manipulated by a group of terminally online stalkers who liked to do nothing but make the lives of their targets miserable or push them to suicide

[@HarperStl]

They just don't stop, do they? Let's hope Digital Homicide is finally finished for good.

[@Ziabetus]

This is straight-up my new favorite channel. Keep it up man, you're awesome 👍

[@milkiski]

I started watching your videos back in may and right now i am binge watching your KZbin Videos I love all of them

[@UnholyMessiah555]

Your documentaries are fucking amazing. Started with the Spoony video (which really got to me on a heavy level as someone with experience of mental health issues and how they can derail your whole life) and now I'm hooked enough to get into the ones on unfamiliar subjects. I'd never heard of these guys before but it's been a trip discovering their deeply pathetic story. Also 'emboldened by his rudimentary legal skills' is a turn of phrase so beautiful it makes me want to weep.

[@TheNightmareAngelYT]

Damn. These guys make The Euphoria Brothers look tame as hell. I wonder where they are now...

[@vvvv4341]

I like to know where Jim is as well.

[@ctf283]

Ive been playing classic WoW and watching all of your videos in the background and its so enjoyable. Thanks for making your vids and i really hope you keep doing Down The Rabbit Hole series because its fucking amazing

[@Uyyak]

God I love how professionally these are presented. One of my new favorite subscribed.

[@dumqunt8649]

In regards to everything bad happening to them - they had it coming by attacking and lashing out against criticism and playing lawyers in such a public way. Whether it's karma, God or common sense, from all sides they deserve it and they brought this upon themselves.

[@rukardio9491]

You just gave me an idea, if these two bastards end up in hell their punishment could be playing their games for all eternity

[@blackcirnoguro5953]

Are these guys delusional or just compulsive liars?

[@when7573]

mufugen bixnood both, if I had to guess

[@IAMSTRINDOM]

the latter begets the former as one lies to themselves

[@jekblom123]

They were deluded con men. So both. Also they were idiots seeing how poorly they handled the con.

[@nicholaswasinger]

Yes

[@winup9417]

trump in a nutshell

[@CaitlinKoi]

I love this series! Keep em coming :D

[@jemmafisk7744]

I love your videos and voice. When I want to watch a video that is informative but calm I come here. Keep up the excellent work

[@elin111]

13:59 I love how that post said "Attorneys threatened to involve my family" as if implying that they were the victims.

[@WyattoonsComics]

One of the biggest problems with their argument about lost revenue/profit is they have no proof. While it can be a viable point in some lawsuits, you need actual data to back it up. Sales trends, records, demographic analytics, all sorts of data is needed to make this a viable claim. Anyone can claim they would’ve made a million dollars if Facebook hadn’t hid their page or whatever. You need actual data to back it up. It doesn’t count as lost money if you never had it to begin with.

[@flyby13]

Great video once again! Keep it up, excited to see your channel grow!

[@mammamia6509]

just wanted to say these videos are great. very informative and entertaining. good job!

[@FaceFirstGhost]

That moment when you realize you'll absolutely need to use a pseudonym for your creative career because of some nutjobs you'd never heard of.

[@Samhainian]

WE'RE DOING IT LIVE FREDBOY!

[@JSolars]

Almost 100k subscribers! You deserve every one Fredrik!

[@Endead12345]

I absolutely love your videos. They are all fascinating case studies in the dangers of ego and hubris, and how they can destroy reputations and lives. Your videos give me a frame of focus through which I can reevaluate myself. Thank you very much, Fredrik.

[@JustAnArrogantAlien]

That Loot Toot mascot is horrifying. Like a Chuck E. Cheese animatronic. Reminds me of that game Scott Cawthon made before he launched FNAF.

[@numbuh1507]

A moment of silence for all the IQ points that Fredrik must've lost while reading the Romine's poorly written statements.

[@isabelle2944]

Second video uploaded since I subscribed! Nice to see we've come full circle!

[@olthdorimirth6055]

I frickin love your videos! Keep it up!

[@yourguysheppy]

This dumpster fire was fun to watch in real time. That said, great video to sum it all up

[@FargonNemeloc]

I read your comment with sheppards voice on my head, nice choice of words 😁

[@mothbazooka]

I love you Fredrik

[@TheViciousBish]

Holy shit the second one is my review D: Thanks, love your videos man!

[@ocircles738]

God I'm so glad I found this channel. Was a lil bit worried about you running out of material but after seeing the NIMH one I'm looking forwards to seeing this one hit 1mil subs. Thanks for the quality stuff m8 and good luck

[@RCT3Crashes100]

As much as I really like the science episodes of this series, I like the internet weirdness ones quite a bit more. Nothing quite like watching salt, drama and internet eccentrics!

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

I agree. There's just something facinating about watching people like DSPgaming and Digital Homocide's egos just..wither away from a safe distance. It's like watching a fire burn down to it's last, smoking ember. I might be a bit of a sadist, and I do feel like I'm kind of a jerk when I say this, but I find these drama stories to be far more entertaining than TV Programs.

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

Guess who's back. Back again. DE is back. Call a friend.

[@Maxx_XIII]

I don't sleep that well most nights. Usually I watch KZbin until I pass out, and I usually watch a random episode of Down The Rabbit Hole. Thing is, I usually end up watching the whole thing. Excellent work on this series.

[@boslychase2097]

Keep up the good work man! These videos are great!

[@GoodnightMoon4]

I really want an extended version of that ominous droning intro. I love it

[@zachlinn9043]

The fact that they literally tried to sue people for criticizing them is so absolutely idiotic and annoying

[@rwdplz1]

Love this series, keep it up!

[@Red3Tube]

Thanks for the follow up. The original video was how I found out about your channel and seeing this nice update was both informative and entertaining. Hopefully it is indeed the "finale" for Romines.

[@WillieManga]

Here's some of what Jim was being sued for initially: He said Digihom was about as sly as those criminals from Home Alone, the Wet Bandits. It was a friggin joke, not grounds for defamation. He called James "Romaino" or something like that, a mistake he made which made them think he was calling him the mafia godfather, basically. It wasn't the intention, but still funny nonetheless. He said that when ECC Games caught Digihom infringing on trademark, there weren't enough popcorn on earth to enjoy the farce, and Sterling's lawyer basically said "So what? You can't prove that." He also said the Galactic Hitman page used a Deviantart image, later claimed to be Shutterstock merch. And for this James demanded half a mil for emotional distress and a certain amount of money for 100 hours of figuring out how to make his friggin lawsuit without a lawyer, YOU SORRY LITTLE INGRATES! As well as fees I don't care about which add up to around 11 mil, not 10 mil... friggin idiot. The second version included another mil in punitive damages. But worst of all was the third version. And Jim could easily have made a point to countersue, considering the civil conspiricy included these gems: It said Jim was a direct competitor who wanted to profit off his failure because he made VA cameos in other games. NO! They are not good enough to compete with anyone but Fur Fun or Dentola. It said Sterling's Steam Cleanlight was deliberately harassing him, that he brought awareness to ECC Games that they were infringing on their name, that Micro Strategic Games was intentionally ruptured due to his confirmation that they were Digihom, that he convinced Valve to disown Digihom and that his fanbase - NOT DIRECTLY AFFILIATED TO HIM AS EVEN ROMAINO ADMITTED HAD HARASSED HIM WHILE STERLING TOLD THEM TO NOT TO DO THAT!! - had harassed them. Yep, it pissed him off just as much. And like you heard, his lawyer said that the emotional distress was likened to that of a parent thinking their kid was kidnapped and killed. Digihom claimed harassment only to harass Jim Sterling himself. He was the one who deserved to sue them, but didn't because he didn't want to become the consequences. Romaine cannot affoard a lawyer, much less pay Jim Sterling, who decided not to get Romaine into more trouble. Goodbye, Jimmy Romaine and good riddance. Thank God for Jim Fucking Sterling Son.

[@manifestgtr]

This is how much of a doofus James is. He claims to be 35 in an interview…then sues the interviewer, immediately revealing that he’s 46. I mean come on dude…that’s some high level goofiness right there…

[@TheStrstudios]

A well crafted, well researched piece. Nice one Mr Knudsen :)

[@porchforty8639]

Love you vids man! Nice attention to detail and really dug the Vaporwave one

[@GlenGlingo9]

The Digital Homicide story is one I'll never tire of, for someone who has intentions of entering media, I study these sore loser developers to examine how *not* to behave in reaction to feedback.

[@BaconMinion]

The most hilarious part in all of this? Claiming that Steam has ever had some kind of quality control.

[@Vulspyr]

Just watched both of the videos on this subject today and you have no idea how excited I was to see there was a second part to the story.

[@marcom5252]

Damn I love this channel. Please come back and make more stuff.

[@CaitieLou]

I'd just like to repeat what someone else commented on the first video: What's bizarre about this whole thing is that the Ramine brothers are clearly con-artists. But normally when con-artists are outed, they just pack up and move on to the next con. They might defend it a little bit, but when things get too hot they just split. These guys actively sought out criticism and waged war with it, drawing attention to themselves and making claims there was no way they could substantiate. That is the opposite of what con-artists do. Delusional is definitely the way to describe their behavior. It would seem they either forgot to leave their pride at the door when engaging in a con that involves making bad games, or this is just them ACTUALLY playing at being respectable "game developers."

[@DenSporetrix]

Aaah yes, gimme that smooth jazz owl boy

[@ariwright206]

just made my night with this upload

[@ariwright206]

also, are the romine brothers mentally disabled or something? seriously I'm not trying to insult them but this sounds eerily close to something chis Chan would do...

[@dougjfeith]

love your work. i especially like you covering the more obscure parts of internet culture. im really hoping to see your channel grow and feel that youre investigative work on these subjects will be the conduit to you being successful on youtube. journalistic integrity is something i hope this format will improve on, and you are one of the current obscure researching forefronts for me. keep it up.

[@ShroudedWolf51]

Well, got bad news for you. We were all hoping that this would have been the last anyone sees of DigiHim, but... They are back in full force and are already regurgitating their same old lies that you covered in this video yet again. About how their case wasn't thrown out of court with prejudice (which, it was) and all the rest of that nonsense.

[@InterstellarVulpine]

Neo Digital Asset Flipping: End of Homicide

[@Rasselgeiss]

「Big Ol' Bear」 You have a cute avatar. Would have said so in a pm or channel comment but can't find such buttons on mobile!

[@graywolfchan2963]

hey fenneko

[@Adam-nw8um]

I know there are newer videos I can post this on but this is the one that convinced me so, here it is. Your videos are awesome man! I started with the Mouse Utopia Experiments video which was fascinating, moved onto your ChrisChan and Spoony videos, and watched your video on Wings of Redemption until 2am last night (all yesterday). I'm not even that interested in a lot of the gaming community or the drama surrounding it, but your research is so thorough and you leave no stone unturned, and the story telling aspect captures my attention perfectly. Glad that I subscribed.

[@sophialovecraft7894]

Thank you for making these, I love and adore Jim Sterling.

[@yhuryh3942]

Digital Homicide? more like Digital Suicide 😎😎😎😎

[@101Volts]

Some years ago I had a dream where I saw something similar to that thumbnail of the "Loot Toot Games" Mascot, it was even in the same kind of environment. Some little character asked me "What does 'Homicide' mean? Does it mean 'Mommy' or 'Daddy?' Because that makes me happy!" And this is the first I heard of this fiasco that I can recall.

[@johnnyjohn5751]

Another great video ad usual

[@gobbalino9510]

Please make more content. I love it so much.