Noah Antwiler (Spoony) | Down the Rabbit Hole

When an early internet reviewer receives remarkable fame, he turns it into his career, but finds that his greatest obstacle is his own behavior.

[@FredrikKnudsen]

This was another one of those videos where I had to leave a lot of information out for the sake of brevity; this is in no way a "complete history." This also was a very self-reflective one, for obvious reasons.

[@FredrikKnudsen]

That's a parody account.

[@tomaszurbaniak4312]

You could link Mister Metokur video for additional information

[@shards-of-glass-man]

A parody one, hm? Too bad, would have been hilarious. Especially considering that JO ended up transitioning as well.

[@Tealeafs1]

I wish you would make the videos longer.. I really enjoy your content it's interesting

[@Jackal_El_Lobo34]

This was sad to know. I feel bad for the man

[@Savyon0]

"In early 2008, KZbin abruptly began suspending the accounts of numerous high-profile video creators... they also were flagged for having inappropriate content, though the definition of 'inappropriate' seemed inconsistent." The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh?

[@Don-tg1ns]

(MW2 flashbacks)

[@101Volts]

So that's what happened to Armake. I wondered at the time what was going on. He then got a second account; "NicotineAlien." I recall _that_ account got suspended and he got a third account but I don't recall its name at the moment.

[@faalonikdovah982]

War never changes.

[@Rubberduck248]

War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. War--and it's consumption of life--has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control, information control, emotion control, battlefield control…everything is monitored and kept under control. War…has changed.

[@faalonikdovah982]

@@Rubberduck248 Pretty dry sense of humor you got there, bud.

[@SuperDevolution]

Fortunately, Channel Awesome never saw any controversy again after Spoony's departure.

[@whatevr99]

/s

[@ontologicallysteve7765]

HaHaHa sarcasm.

[@thema1998]

@Jaegar Ultima Channel Awesome is hanging on by a thread!

[@thema1998]

@Jaegar Ultima I'm not. Channel Awesome never cared about the people that it hurt!

[@bluedragon8762]

@Jaegar Ultima what did doug do?

[@jayzedd_]

I loved how Lordkat says why don't you act professional for once, while doing the most unprofessional shit you could do.

[@cremetangerine82]

He admitted that he was violating a NDA with Channel Awesome by talking about this. Despite the incompetence (at best) of CA, no wonder a gaming company wouldn’t trust him!

[@big_slurp4603]

Kat is an idiot sperg, hes blaming spoony for his own shortcomings

[@JackieLombardi]

"You got a small d*ck, and you're f*cking afraid of it!" Bro was really losing his mind on that podcast

[@edwarddorey4480]

Calling someone "a moron" is quite professional. /s

[@SagaciousFrank]

The guy sounded like a total tosser to me, Lordkat that is. Calling someone else a loser, but came across as one himself. 🤷‍♂️

[@TonyExists]

LordKat’s tirade about how Noah cost him an interview with Notch was so fucking overdramatic. I was just waiting for him to say “And at Summerslam I will prove to the world just how much of a fraud you are!”

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

You made me laugh, thanks man, i needed that today.

[@louskunt125]

Okay? If someone ruined a large opportunity I'd hate their guts too.

[@rockk9753]

Ha summerslam

[@Overdosed49]

Honestly I think his story about his ruined "opportunity" was complete bullshit. I don't see how spoony being loud at E3 would somehow upset Mojang or E3 at that random guy years later.

[@jackcoleman1784]

LordKats entire argument hinged on having his identity mistaken for Spoony. My feeling is how about you get pissed at someone mistaking you for someone else or even yourself for being so not memorable people confuse you for other people. It was obviously Lords best attempt to burn a bridge while attempting to make it look reasonable i.e. not about burning a bridge. Pretty pathetic in my opinion.

[@nicholasgutierrez6672]

The whole Spoony story is like a Greek tragedy, A tale about a man who found fame and success only to lose all to his own worst enemy, himself.

[@anirudhviswanathan3986]

Half of the Indian stories are basically of the same theme: man is his worst enemy.

[@jorgamund07]

It's such a common flaw they gave it a name that we still use today: hubris.

[@mariaathena7910]

Well God's are also involved in Greek tragedies lol

[@jerrysmith8814]

So true... P.S. ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA! (I'm sorry)

[@kayrupe125]

Geek tragedy*

[@ThatoneGuy-uk6cd]

"Why dont you act like a professional for once once" *was breaking out 90s insults like 2 seconds ago*

[@KillFace4President]

Yeah that dude did nothing to help his own case. Tells someone else to act like a professional then proceeds to swear and call him immature insults such as "retard".

[@sirvalhart7464]

loooser!

[@drek32403]

He was probably just fed up with him after he fucked him over and started attacking his fans, he just needed to let that out I’m guessing

[@DoctorObviously]

I don't like him either but I think LordKat did have a point.

[@sirduggins]

He makes shitty video game videos and was pissed when someone was being unprofessional. Spoony was expressing his opinion on a new game and everybody got pissed because they wanted sponsorship deals. If anything I respect him for being honest rather than lying like every other journalist out there. He's a relic from before youtubers were as worried about getting advertisers and review copies of games. I'd rather watch videos of a loose cannon than whatever Lordkat was trying to be.

[@maryfrancess93]

I feel like online content creators are the new child stars. They get big early on on an unregulated platform that puts them in the public eye and then either destroy themselves, get destroyed, or walk away.

[@riot1455]

God, absolutely. There's so many cases like Spoony's that it's driven me to want to use them as some sort of case study. There's both a morbid fascination and real cause for concern among watchers that I think should also be addressed, especially since we could have a WHOLE discussion about how content creator/fan relationships impact both parties.

[@RoyStantz]

Guru Larry knows how to evolve and adapt with the times.

[@conornutt]

@@RoyStantz Great,thanks , i now know never to look them up as their fans are obnoxious.

[@RoyStantz]

@@conornutt Whose fans are obnoxious?

[@thetruthexperiment]

Or they grow up and they’re adult content creators on regulated platforms.

[@skeletoreternia600]

When a character named Dr. Insano is actually more mentally stable than its creator

[@JK-gm6kk]

Captain Insano shows no mercy

[@hackerism1]

"Honey, what are you doing?" "Shut up mom! A man on the internet told me to film myself stabbing the grass with my katana. If I win I get a picture of him!"

[@mikzin630]

>with my katana

[@snuggleduff]

you mean ar 15

[@Calintares]

the prize on that one was bullshit, but inspiring people to try their hand at amateur movies was a good thing.

[@CrimsonVocals]

motor man are you trying to green text on youtube? or are you saying that "motor man" (is greater) with my katana? does that also mean "motor man" (is lesser) without my katana? *mfw he tried to green text on youtube*

[@CrimsonVocals]

I don't know man, something must be up with my browser because none of that text is green. It's really weird, I'll see if using a different browser helps.

[@LlamaArmy]

Could yall imagine how it must feel to gain a bit of internet fame from some KZbin content, then have shit downhill and a few years later you end up watching a well-made documentary about your own rise and fall. How terrible.

[@hopelessent.1700]

It’s a fate worse than death.

[@IchCharacter]

For that he'd need a job first. Let's see how long until he ends up on the streets.

[@srorrim]

damn thats depressing asf lmfao

[@Imabeatyouman]

Could you imagine how it must feel to become famous on KZbin, lose it all, and a few years later you see a video on your rise and fall, and then you see a comment about how it would be terrible to experience becoming internet famous, having shit go down hill and then seeing a video chronicling your rise and fall? How atrocious

[@honestabe5153]

Ok

[@rhenvao2844]

The only concession I'm willing to give LordKat is that Noah's behavior reflected poorly on his coworkers while he was with Channel Awesome. That is a fact of life for any business. Everything else, however, the whole "Noah screwed me out of an interview", calling Noah unprofessional while jabbing at his breakup with Scarlett and name-calling like a middle schooler without a hint of self-awareness just makes him look like a petty asshole who needed a bad guy to project on.

[@samanthasaysmoon11]

That's exactly what I was thinking while I heard him talking

[@mrcritical6751]

You can even see Joe kinda nervously looking around and thinking “this is really unprofessional dude, please don’t get us kicked out”

[@adamshafi4659]

Lord KAT was just salty

[@Bjorick]

however, with the benefit of hindsight, it has been shown that Noah was quite unprofessional, maybe a bit of truth mixed with his envy and hate - seeing someone who didn't put forth the effort of others being successful is frustrating, but that's the nature of popularity

[@heroinmom153]

My thoughts exactly.

[@VirusakeFatVersion]

- How old are you? - I remember when AVGN was originally called "Angry Nintendo Nerd"

[@zebare726]

When his videos where upploaded to 480p

[@Tina_Bo_Binaaa]

Ikr. Damn I feel old.

[@carlosvalois8966]

Damn, that's impressive

[@technopoptart]

@@zebare726 i remember when only the 'good' computers could play a 480p video x''D

[@darthgamer9861]

dont make me feel old!

[@PsychicWars]

I will always be amazed at how Spoony saw the writing on the wall for TGWTG earlier than anyone else, left at the perfect time, and still managed to come out the worst of anyone.

[@shawnfields2369]

I agree, dude/lady. Most of the people who weren't up their own asses, had left Channel Awesome, some notable examples being Spoony, the subject of this video, Angry Joe, The Rap Critic, ToddInTheShadows, and many others, and I'm not saying the people who're currently there ARE up their own ass, maybe some of them are, or maybe they're planning to leave Channel Awesome, because it's becoming a disaster. I'm still a bit upset that things turned out the way they did for Noah, but, there's no turning back now. It's sad, things had to end like this for the guy, and I WAS one of those hopeful fans, awaiting a comeback of some sort from him, but it seems like, just as the writing was on the wall for That Guy With The Glasses, it's there for Noah as well. I've read updates, as of December 2019, his website's gone, his girlfriend April left him weeks prior, he's rambling incoherently on twitter, his house is in foreclosure, it's hard for me to say this, and to say goodbye to one of my favorite content creators this way, but it is what it is. Spoony ain't coming back. A sad story, with a sad ending. I'll always remember the great videos Noah made, my favorites being the retrospective on FF8, even if I disagree with his negative feelings on the game, the review and videos themselves were funny enough. A few more of my favorites were the Ultima videos, the playthrough of Phantasmagoria 2, and Ripper. It's too bad, what happened to him. A real tragedy, he had talent, but he just kept getting smacked down, repeatedly, and, now he's gone for good, it seems. Gone, but not forgotten. Sorry, for the long rant.

[@philipweber9545]

He scaled the wall, got around the barbed wire and then fell 20 feet face first into a landmine

[@shawnfields2369]

@@philipweber9545 Yeah, pretty much... it really is sad what happened to Noah. The guy had legit talent, like I said a month ago, but he kept getting smacked down, at every corner, everywhere he looked, he just kept getting knocked back. There was just no way he could recover from these horrible events, one, after another, after another. He didn't deserve that. He even got berated by his ex-colleagues, like what we just saw in the video, his girl left him, AGAIN, he's sadly, rambling incoherently on social media, his website's gone, and his house is in foreclosure. How do you recover from ALL of that happening to you, at ONCE? But, life's just unfair sometimes, dude. And there's nothing we could do about it. It really sucks, having to leave like this, but we have to face facts, and the writing on the wall, Noah Antwiler, ain't coming back this time. Sorry. As much as I'd love to be wrong about this, like I was wrong about ProJared, it doesn't seem like it this time. It's sad, tragic, and just straight up unfortunate, what happened to Noah. It's also sad he couldn't see the writing on the wall a 2nd time, for his website, his relationship, and his house, as well. Yep. He fell, face-first, into a landmine, and got sent flying, Smash Bros style, into the screen, and lost his last stock; sadly enough.

[@philipweber9545]

@@shawnfields2369 he seemed to have done most of the bad parts himself, and although some people deserve what they have coming to them, this guy lost it all, and there's an underlying tone of sadness throughout.

[@shawnfields2369]

@@philipweber9545 Yeah, there is, hence why I mentioned how it was a sad and tragic story. He lost everything, and I'm not saying he did deserve what happened to him, but seemingly, all the bad stuff that happened, seems to have happened because of Noah himself, apparently. I'm only saying, dude, it was mostly awful what happened to Noah. But I just liked his videos. I didn't know most of the bad things that happened to him until I saw this video, and heard about the bi-polar thing. Which were 2 different things. I saw the video at a different time, and heard he had bi-polar disorder somewhere else. Still, it kind of sucks, to be in the position he was in, and to know that most of it was your own fault. I can't say I don't feel at least a little bit sorry for the guy, but yeah, you're right, dude. There was an underlying tone of sadness throughout his story. I agree, completely, dude.

[@peachdoesart7175]

This is it guys, this is the spoony movie

[@saintbrush4398]

In a cruel twist of tragic irony.

[@TheKessi1000]

Holy Shit, your right! He was making it the whole time. He honestly knew the ending too.

[@clipsotrips6657]

sooner or later we’ll be having an afterlife spin-off by the man himself

[@Alknix]

@@TheKessi1000 What a twist!

[@BillytheTeslaGod]

There's a Spoony documentary that's almost an hour long.

[@shwiftyboi2184]

Love that LordKat literally went on a personal attack spree on Noah and then follows up with "Why don't you be a professional for once?" Gives me a good chuckle

[@dpeter95]

Only thing I ever watched was his four man The Last Airbender review

[@patrickking3124]

Yeah that "why don't you be a professional for once" *immediately uses a slur*

[@KittyPieVibes]

I love too how he starts out somewhat calm and “professional” saying he doesn’t really want to comment too much on it and by the end he’s yelling FUCK YOU into his mic

[@chardaskie]

LordKat is the reason people like spoony go insane.

[@notjimpickens7928]

@@chardaskie elaborate? im not sure what you mean.

[@manicpixiefangirl4189]

This just convinces me even more that getting off social media would do wonders for mental health. Twitter basically needs its own AA equivalent.

[@snowflakepillow8697]

What AA do you mean? Leaving Facebook and chan sites definitely improved my mental health.

[@azureprince9807]

Deleted Facebook entirely and limited my time on Twitter, It really does help

[@tylerlackey1175]

Twitter has caused more social destruction than the great depression

[@natedash11]

Social media was a mistake.

[@TheSlipperyNUwUdle]

I make an effort not to use Facebook anymore. I only keep it downloaded because you get extra rewards for sharing from Love Nikki. Lolololololol

[@armoredp]

Lol that moment where Lordkat tells Noah to act professional while venomously insulting him no holds barred was rather ironic.

[@rainbowrotcod]

Thought the same thing.

[@Mngalahad]

what happened to him? i only learned about him from this video. i had only watched a few NC videos before the drama.

[@SuperPhunThyme9]

Yep...

[@billzebob1637]

@Malum Swing and a miss asshat. Try again.

[@14ghostdragon]

@Mac Matheson you dont go outside much lol. There's a very subhuman undertone with saying that compared to white male. Blame history (not slavery literally 2000+). People use white male as a descrption of privilege not anything dehumanizing. Didnt think you needed an explanation on that fake woke one

[@boogamandan7275]

I like how the guy literally called “angry” video game nerd is the only one who didn’t go bad shit

[@retroblue69696]

literally the sanest one lol

[@thearizonarangerwiththebig3874]

@@retroblue69696 For real, James Rolfe is one of the most humble content creators on the platform..happily married and 2 daughters, a relic from the old KZbin days and is still going strong

[@KonEl-BlackZero]

Mostly because Mike Mattei was behind his rants, James is just a talented actor

[@Noplayster13]

Angry Joe is still able to speak coherently.

[@TheEmperorHyperion]

Even the guy calling himself *Urinating* Tree is doing better than Spoony; he shot up to 500k subs in a few years and even got sponsorship. Fuck you Antwiler, just because you quote the man doesn't mean you get his success.

[@Nantosuelta]

James Rolfe is the epitome of a success story. Happily married with kids and still making videos that people love and enjoy.

[@85wastedyears]

He's a complete and total lazy sell-out and shill. He constantly complains about having "no time" even though he hired screen wave media to do all of the work for him...

[@MrManueldx]

@@85wastedyears nah fam you hatin

[@85wastedyears]

@@MrManueldx I did nothing but state facts.

[@slig4656]

@@85wastedyears oh nooo a man with a wife, kids, and a life outside of KZbin doesn’t have time to make videos anymore guuuee 😭😭😭 guuu 😭😭 guuueee guee. cry harder.

[@Alfredo-oh8xb]

He doesn't make videos, he reads monotone scripts about games he's never played written by fat fucks from Rental Reviews. Cinemassacre is dead, James is a zombie who doesn't care about his channel or making quality videos, and would rather say he has no time despite the fact that he has no other job and most dad's do triple the work and still are good parents.

[@DiGiTyDarKMaN]

Noah still has the best Ultima retrospective, IMO. I've probably watched that series of videos a hundred times.

[@liamconverse8950]

That's the only reason I know this guy, I just wanted to watch a video that explains all the Ultima games. And then I see there's some videos about his dramatic downfall lol. It's funny because why do people prop these these guys up in the first place

[@erlr5842]

Update on Spoony: -His website has been broken for about a year but it's still on his twitter -He ran a red light and was in an accident that hospitalized 2 people -April broke up with him and has cut off all contact with him. (Honestly good for her) -The bank has foreclosed on his house and he's being forced to move back in with family -He rarely if ever streams and when he does he's mostly just silent and ignores chat where he's obviously aggravated by them -He's on twitter and he complains every day that his life is a mess and there's nothing he can do to change it, any time someone offers advice he tells them to fuck off

[@randomcenturion7264]

Yikes.

[@thememesjack6128]

What a way to fall

[@erlr5842]

@@srazysnake0221 His mental state definitely isn't better. He definitely needs help but he insists he's on medication/therapy and that it does nothing. He also seems to love telling people how miserable he is on Twitter for sympathy but like I said any advice is ignored.

[@hansmahr8627]

I know someone like that. Creative guy with some talent but he's held down by severe mental illness and years of failures and rejections. He has completely given up, rejects therapy, rejects advice and seems to have accepted that his life is completely fucked and that change is impossible. It's heartbreaking because there's nothing you can do about it. Once you reach a state of utter hopelessness there's no way back.

[@thedrewdog]

Even with mental help, he'd still be a smug asshole. What Noah wants (I hesitate to call him Spoony anymore) is free money and a random girl to knock on his door and proclaim her love. Although, that Rachel girl that obsesses about him on Twitter is so crazy even NOAH doesn't want her.

[@shi5369]

There's always a girl, there's always a basement, there's always a downfall.

[@slowtowners7178]

onision is quaking

[@jinn194]

Shi “and behind every fall... I see him.” “keemstar”

[@WOOT1234able]

@@jinn194 Fucking gnomeeee

[@OsKuukkeli]

For some reason I thought the basemen was in Berlin, girl's name was Eva and the downfall meant Der Untergang.

[@TheSecondVersion]

Unless your name is James Rolfe

[@reluctantlylikingcardgames798]

About the post on his website at 12:15 - there's actually some context lost there, and I don't blame you for not knowing, as few people outside of those who were there at the time remember this. Originally, the day before he posted "An appeal for manners", he posted a full video that was a thank-you for winning the Open Web Award for Funniest Person of the Year. It was notable because it was the only video he ever posted where Scarlet appeared. And people were insulting her in the comments, essentially calling her ugly along with other awful stuff. Within 24 hours, the video was taken down, and he replied with this blog post. I believe less than a few thousand people ever saw the original video - I myself never did, and only saw the fallout.

[@c.l.8213]

LordKat's whining about being shut out from that GDC is still hilarious to me.

[@torstenscholz6243]

LordKat's rant really has "I'm just jealous that Spoony is so much more talented and such a much nicer, more beloved person than I am" written all over it. He is just trying to blame his own failure on someone else.

[@Admin-qy4zi]

So true

[@raymondstanford]

Spoony being fired from Channel Awesome is like the first guy to die in the Titanic disaster.

[@Liggliluff]

I would rather compare it to; in the Titanic disaster, people fled the boat to survive. Spoony however, he was fired and thrown overboard.

[@fernie-fernandez]

raymondstanford Try comparing Channel Awesome’s scandal to Sandy Hook’s...

[@streetrat48]

@@Liggliluff Terrible comparison. OP's was better.

[@VolkColopatrion]

Dan Olsen defended a pedo. The whole of channel awesome was a shit show according to the leaks. The leaks alone deserve videos of their own.

[@brandonlyon730]

Fredrik actually looked over and talked about the not so awesome documents on his other channel. He also looked over CA’s awful response to the whole thing.

[@Drakulas77]

Honestly you could do a Down the Rabbit Hole on Channel Awesome as a whole. They always had problems with controversy after controversy and nearly everyone involved with that site had some serious issues going on.

[@helmaschine1885]

He covered the documents released in livestreams. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6iyh4GMndSejaM

[@juankenon]

What more can be said at this point? The CTC document was covered to death, 95% was complete nontroversy and the whole Jewario thing has been addressed elsewhere and really I think its up to his victims to want to come forward and tell their stories; so far they've chosen by and large to remain private about it, they have zero to gain (everyone knows he was a monster) and a lot to lose.

[@juankenon]

@I Am Sonichu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, you're right, playing dress up in your 40s and grooming kids is totally kawaii.

[@eduardodiaz9942]

@I Am Sonichu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was a sexual predator. Go fuck yourself, incel.

[@dangerousboxx666]

Just find mr metokurs video series on TGWTG really good.

[@tafua_a]

You know you're unprofessional when Channel Awesome says "that's a bit unprofessional now, is it?"

[@theMoporter]

Sexual harassment wasn't a fireable offence, and being 15 minutes late to an impromptu Skype call was. CA knows nothing of professionalism.

[@tafua_a]

@@theMoporter That's my point. CA are anything but professional, and Spoony couldn't even meet those standards

[@draconicfeline6177]

I appreciate how kind your videos are. You are neutral, but sympathetic. You present the facts, but also the context of the facts, and always emphasize that these are people, not things to gawk at for entertainment. You are a star, sir.

[@charmandyorton006]

So the opposite of LordKat?

[@MoskHotel]

@@charmandyorton006 Apparently so, yes.

[@PUNCHEDPUNCHEDPUNCHED]

Ending up in a Fredrik Knudsen video someday is now officially one of my biggest fears

[@joshuagraham9770]

Perhaps

[@CatnamedMittens]

Dw you won't

[@nman551]

You’ll be ok just stay vigilant

[@k.morningstar7983]

Darger seemed like a good guy. but he had the most TRAGIC life story imaginable that fear still checks out

[@Green-vf6ff]

Being in his videos means you fucked up the looser way.

[@Colddirector]

Regardless of how much you hate Spoony, you can't possibly do as much bad to him as he does to himself. Lesson of the day folks, sometimes you live in the same body as your worst enemy.

[@clearspira]

What bad does he do to himself? It looks to me like he has no regrets at all.

[@LuunnaGaia]

taking a sledgehammer to his own career, for one. not regretting it doesnt mean that wasnt a bad idea, hes just not self-aware enough to realize what he's done, or i guess angry enough that he doesnt care

[@heelyBrah]

It be ya ownself sometimes

[@chookitty5219]

His bad attitude pulled him down

[@MrChupacabra555]

Even more so when you have an actual mental illness, as he does. Although I don't know much about it, I can only imagine that living with bipolar disorder (in addition to whatever other ills he has, both mental and physical), can't be easy to deal with, and the fact that he quit seeing his psychiatrist can't be good. Where the hell are the parents he admits to living with for so long? Don't they know their child is suffering and needs help?!

[@KyleHarrisonRedacted]

Recent Update on Spoony (I occasionally check in every once in a blue moon to see if he's alive and what's up): - His dog Oreo passed away, im unaware of exactly how. - He went through a massive depression spell - He got a new puppy, named THAC0 - He seems far FAR less miserable now, and i've seen him reply to trolling and prodding with jokes and stride. - His primary content is tweets, talking about comics, WWE, and his puppy - Latest video on channel is a Live Wire on Death Stranding on Sep 23, 2020 - Latest Fredrik Knudsen video on this channel at time of writing is Jun 7, 2021 ;)

[@Falkenhorst2000]

Well, it's something. Wouldn't be optimistic yet, but it's something.

[@SImrobert2001]

what is Fredrik Knudsen?

[@viemarirunoa]

@@SImrobert2001 Me

[@JillLulamoon]

He lives with family now I believe, maybe they convinced/forced him to start seeing help and get back on meds.

[@PsychicWars]

I think the only real way for Spoony to get better at this point is to keep him off the internet and try and get him integrated into a normal job.

[@ATalkingShark]

I love how people remember LordKat for Spoony and nothing else.

[@Armor8377]

I didn't even know about LordKat until I saw this video. Not impressed. "Why don't you act like a professional" then proceeds to call him the R word... yeah... hypocrite much?

[@brovid-19]

@@Armor8377 what's the R word? Reticulating? Redundant? Recalcification? I wish people would take *r*esponsibility for the words they wanna say instead of hiding behind the first letter like some kinda F word.

[@ReiAnikaAyanami]

​@@brovid-19 seethe

[@TB688]

Because Spoony did bring eyes to him. I had no idea who Lordkat was until he was in a video with Spoony.

[@spimbles]

@@ReiAnikaAyanami theyre right though. saying words like retard without a negative connotation, i.e. quoting a person, is nothing to be sheepish over. its really quite pathetic that people are afraid of just saying words lol

[@CrazyPangolinLady]

James Rolfe is like the only one of these guys that didn’t go insane, Edit: please stop replying. This whole thread is a toxic shit show.

[@PhantomLantern2814]

Linkara has kept pretty chill from what I know.

[@van8ryan]

Biggest problem with Channel Awesome was that it was too spread out with too manyproducers in separate states that the main runners (mainly at the time the blow-up happened was Mike Machaud and Rob Walker) couldn't actively regard every issue (even when they tried) and unfortunately because so many issues weren't addressed (largely starting with the production of TO BOLDLY FLEE) the whole thing fell apart (and fortunately most are still doing videos thanks largely to Patron). Rolfe's lucked out because his content is largely all himself and occasional people that'll help him on videos; all of which can speak and work with him directly. Even now, as he's recently started including more people in other videos like J&M Mondays and the now ending RENTAL REVIEWS, it's still largely him in charge of everything.

[@ConsoleCleric]

Not insane, but he certainly has his own skeletons in the closet. Look up what happened between him and "Bad-Luck Bootsy."

[@91Vault]

I sometimes get the impression that the ones that crash and burn the most were the ones who didn't really have a lot else going on, and when the volatility of the job got too much it stirred up their existing issues (mental health etc ) and left them with no way out, I feel like if James quit AVGN back in the day he would have been fine and had other things to do weather it was professional work or other personal projects

[@qwertylolzdwjkz]

Meh heard a bunch about Rolfe, a bunch of negative stuff that permanently put me off any of his videos..

[@danwilliams1989]

“You don't understand. I literally cannot feel happiness anymore. I know that sounds stupid, but it's true. It would actually be uncomfortable to watch me on camera. I wouldn't say much of anything. I wouldn't be enjoying myself. It's just gone.” -Noah Antwiler tweet from September 14, 2020 Wow, that’s legitimately sad to hear.

[@unpopularopinions7407]

Holographic Marlon Brando I still don’t really understand what caused his content output to slow down so much. Was it loss of motivation? Laziness? Some kind of IRL drama? Had he kept on making stuff like Doug and co have, he probably would’ve survived.

[@HybridSiren24]

@@unpopularopinions7407 Being someone who followed him back in the day when I was younger, trust me when I say that the relationship between his audience and him had LOOOONG been super vitriolic on both sides. Not trying to defend Spoony, I'm just trying to give some more context that I feel slipped through the fingers of the videos, but he would make videos talking about stuff he honestly enjoyed but would also talk critically about and everyone would throw it back into his face as, "oh Spoony hates everything!" and between that and (what looks like to me) mishandled mental illness (and ego), I feel like there's somewhat a trauma on his side. One of the big things I recall sparking it was his vlog about Pacific Rim, where he expressed how much he loved it but also thought critically of it, and a lot of really vocal and abusive fans kept spitting in his face, "you hate everything!" While there absolutely is a lot of valid criticisms you can make in regards to Spoony's analysis of media, this was more just a wave of negativity than anything that could've inspired further discussion. The Ultima retrospective series, especially the finale, I feel was (somewhat) a response to that, because the overall point is to show and gush about a series he loves that's been with him through so much. So between normal vitriol, a loud audience practically gaslighting him over whether or not he likes what he likes, mental illness, and ego - I think these compounded together to cause the decline. It wasn't a sudden decrease, it was gradual. Note: while I've got a lot of mental illness stuff going on myself, I'm not as familiar with his diagnosis, but I hope I can sorta help explain the lead up to his long standing paralysis of healing. I know for me, it's really easy for my brain to put me in a paralysis state where it can be difficult to make myself get up and eat. Brains are big ol' fuckin' messes. Overall I hope it's clear that BOY HOWDY I don't condone the bs he and many people around him pulled, and this quarantine I've gone back a bit to see why I got into his work as a kid and figured oh god I would not have gotten into it now. However, I don't wish the fucking soul crushing downward spiral of despair and depression on anyone, and hope he can get some help as I do not wish suicide upon anyone. There's ways to learn, heal, and grow (though more difficult now with the plague and how shitty the US is) for him.

[@Carbine64]

@@balloonfiesta15 well said.

[@canadiangemstones7636]

It’s called depression.

[@famine92]

@@canadiangemstones7636 I was gonna say something along the lines. I mean, that tweet is a very basic definition of depression. I don't know the guy but people seem to not notice or forget, that depression is a real illness and mostly not really anyones "fault" even though there can of course be more nuance to it.

[@fgortheoriginal]

That LordKat rant was absolutely hilarious. The funniest part is how LordKat calls Noah a "nobody" despite pretty much only being known as the guy who ranted over not being able to interview Notch.

[@itsrainingmelons6202]

is there a video of this?

[@fgortheoriginal]

It's in the video. I don't remember what timestamp, though, sorry.

[@thienbaongo7997]

​@@itsrainingmelons6202 Rant starts 19:47, just keep watching, thank me later

[@Yabuturtle]

Lord Kat, while somewhat right about Spoony, is still an asshole, blaming his failures on other people when it's his own damn fault. It is kind of hard to feel bad for Spoony, since he kind of brought this on himself.

[@jordandennis6794]

I don't. Fuck Spoony

[@progunjack5556]

@@jordandennis6794 dude there's no "hero" and "villain" in this world two wrongs doesn't make a right

[@thepharoah3811]

Lord Kats rant came off like a insecure man looking for a target to take his frustration out on. Spoony was a easy excuse for him to dump blame on. I mean hell... look at spoony... that dude is a complete train wreck! But Lord Kats star was always outshined by Spoony. And Spoony wasted his time in the spot light acting like a jack ass and lashing out at people. It makes sense that Lord Kat would take it personally. He was less popular than a self destructive, egotistical, loser and I'm sure that read as unfair.

[@MoskHotel]

@@progunjack5556 That definitely applies to almost anyone in Channel Awesome.

[@klpaah]

@@progunjack5556Agreed. Everyone wants to frame conflicts as if one side is a perfectly innocent victim, while the other side is a Faustian evil perpetrator. While out here in reality, most conflicts can be characterized as "Asshole being assholes to other assholes who are also being assholes."

[@jochem6292]

Frederik reading the tweets of this guy in his analytic voice is the funniest shit to me

[@QJ89]

It would have been better if all of the producers' aliases were used. I can tell who Hope / JO is, but I can still envision some-one asking "who the fuck is Hope?" A small nitpick to an otherwise good retrospect.

[@CASHXRAT]

This dude looks like he could be ProJared’s older brother.

[@MCain-ky2yv]

He looks like Italian projared

[@CASHXRAT]

@@MCain-ky2yv *ProGerardo

[@tomkeenoyy]

Sammy oof

[@hallowseve5801]

He's Anti-Jared

[@sunshine_tidings6983]

thought the same thing

[@Terestrasz]

One thing that couldn't be included in the video for the purpose of brevity (and because the Channel Awesome comments were deleted/removed, and Spoony closed comments on his KZbin videos) was that, back in the early days, you'd see people commenting that Noah should get himself evaluated for BIpolar or Borderline Personality Disorder. Several people would also even say this to his face at events or respond to his social media tirades with comments urging him to see a doctor. People dismissed them as concern trolls and "Missing the joke", but even back then Spoony kind of showed that he... wasn't just "acting". Well in 2012 he got diagnosed as Type 2 Bipolar. Then some people were commenting that he might have been skipping his medications.

[@gothicMCRgirl]

It’s rather unfortunate, especially since these sort of disorders only get more unstable the longer they’re left untreated. People with bipolar can lead perfectly healthy lives and can even use those moments of sudden energy to their advantage for productive activities. Spoony could have not only benefitted from treatment, it could’ve even helped him with his creativity and content.

[@JetblackThemeTime]

22:19 Joe: "I'm not with him." Smartest thing Joe ever did.

[@chrisjt86]

And LordKat was mad at him anyway.

[@le9374]

Eh, he seemed like a bitch.

[@Holktube]

Me while I'm packing up the apartment: "I wish there was a good story to listen to while I do this." Sir Fredrik the Wise: *finger guns*

[@IFeelSoTongueTied]

lmaooooooo

[@WobblesandBean]

Congrats on the move! I hope your new place is even nicer than the old one

[@Holktube]

Amelia Bee It is, thanks! Also, this is the nicest comment reply I've ever received on KZbin!

[@DoppSkates]

👉😎👉

[@doesanythingmatter1326]

That lordkat guy couldn't have handled the situation any worse.

[@drownsinkoolaid4203]

I've seen folks in the comments say around the same time he lost his father too, so it's likely he wasn't in the clearest of minds, but the insults were/are well deserved lol

[@jacksimpson8529]

Who is this 'Lordkat' guy? I still can't work it out from the video? Sorry if I'm a bit slow.... how exactly did he handle the situation badly?

[@superanimeniac]

@@jacksimpson8529 lordkat was another of those gamers who wanted to pass himself off as a professional reviewer and journalist, back in the late 00's. he was part of channel awesome for a while, but was hilariously low rated because his content was garbage, and then he tried to join a 'professional' journalism team, and then spoony had his breakdown.

[@philmcwonder8173]

I get where he was coming from, but honestly he just came off like a man child trying to throw blame around. Lordkat was always... "alright"... he had his moments but he was never really that entertaining to watch compared to other channels. Throwing a fit and demanding the spoony held him back just strikes me as him trying to protect his own ego. Fuck spoony, and all, but bro... seriously... bring it down a peg. You weren't as great as you might think...

[@sortedevaras]

Hey it much have been hard being c tier talent on Channel Awesome.

[@breezingby2611]

Noah’s an even greater tragedy than Doug Walker. The latter may have sullied his reputation, but he still has a loyal fanbase, successful channel, and he seems to be content with his life. Noah’s lost all his clout and seems miserable.

[@donb7519]

also doug barely sullied his reputation cause most of the change the channel names exposed themselves as petty assholes and most accusations against doug werent of the extreme variety

[@breezingby2611]

@@donb7519 Doug’s reputation is still pretty sullied, but he’s really more guilty of being ignorant and inactive than he is of being an actively malicious presence

[@donb7519]

@@breezingby2611 most people have forgiven him tbh at this point people are more mad at his wall review then anything he did back in the day

[@brandonlyon730]

@@donb7519The change the channel thing didn’t put to much blame on Doug, most of it was on Channel awesomes crappy CEO and Dougs Brother Rob. At most in the interviews Doug seemed to come off as more naively ignorant then anything else. Course the fact he didn’t acknowledge or address anything and just pretend nothing was happening didn’t help his case, especially with the whole Justin Carmical thing when he himself made a farewell video to him after he committed suicide.

[@StudioScarecrow]

@@donb7519 keep talking yourself into believing that it didn't affect anything and everyone forgot. lol

[@Sundown_Clown474]

Stories like this make me very proud that I don't have a Twitter.

[@MRJTD99]

Sometimes you have to have one for business purposes (publishers like to put it in as a requirement for writers, for example). Beyond that, idk why anyone bothers.

[@halcionjoy7]

I spent a few weeks looking at Twitter a few months ago. It just made me depressed and baffled by human stupidity. There's no worthwhile debate there, the site isn't even formatted to handle debate very well.

[@AndI0td763]

Twitter just seems like a massive waste of time. Why Spoony of all people would take interest in such a thing I’ll never understand.

[@Laamafani2]

I think his biggest problems was, that he didn't really see himself as an internet content creator. He wanted to be a big hollywood star, this whole Spoony Experiment thing was just a stepping stone to greatness. When it was clear, that his rise to stardom wasn't happening, he became incredibly depressed and lost interest in everything. If he only had stayed humble, and accepted his career, he might still be making content with a comfortable Patreon score.

[@GasmaskAvenger]

Why even try to be a big Hollywood star in the first place? You gotta fuckin' build a foundation to even reach there. Take Brad's bud Ryan, who's worked on quite a few Asylum productions and still continue to collaborates with Brad to this day. He got far closer to Hollywood than Noah (and Doug) by having realistic expectations and properly paying his dues. Same can be said of the Red Letter Media guys, who've gotten quite the cast of guest hosts on their shows. Lesson of the day, kids: NEVER aspire to be the next Steven Spielberg. Instead, be more realistic and aspire to be the next George Romero, David Cronenberg or Wes Craven. You'd probably make it further with those expectations.

[@Aleks0207]

Though definitely less self-destructive than Spoony, that's the exact same problem that Doug Walker had with being the Nostalgia Critic. Despite having struck gold with his established format, Doug torpedoed his own success by trying to turn his "nostalgic movie review show" into a cringe fest of terribly-acted skits. He deluded himself into thinking that his success as an internet content creator translated into directing skills. I've never seen the "movies" he made, but have heard they aren't much better either, and the thought of watching an hour straight of those skits is terrifying. tl;dr Find your niche and stick to it.

[@w7100]

well a lot of content producers felt like that back then

[@kaiosamatlj4031]

Ironically, this is the exact same problem with LordKat. And his rant against Spoony and Joe makes this even more clear. He boasts all that crap that Spoony ruined his opportunity with the whole "BETRAYAL" thing, but I bet the result would be the same even if Spoony did nothing. Because, seriously, who is LordKat at all? When I used to frequent the TGWTG site I didn't had any idea who he was before he appeared in one of Spoony's videos (the second one about the Pumpkinhead game). I did watch some of his "Until We Win" videos later and... I'm less than impressed. Don't get me wrong, I respect LordKat skills as a gamer, especially since his show focused on beating hard-as-balls games, but his show lacked charisma. My bet is that the guys at E3 that he spoke off that he believed would give a good opportunity to him also didn't had a fucking clue who he was, and were expecting one of the more famous members of site instead, and decided to use the "BETRAYAL" as a scape goat to quickly dispatch him instead of saying the truth straight in his face. (which is a dick move if this is true) Also, I find hilarious that he blames Spoony for not being professional (which, I will admit, it's kind of true) , but also procedes to call him a "fucking pussy", talk shit about the size of his penis, and just being equally immature. Guess that his idea of "professionalism" is the same old "kiss as many corporate asses as possible to climb the ladder", and I wouldn't be surprised if this mentality also got in to become a member of the site to begin with.

[@TempusKing]

He had spoony campaign one of his most popular sessions of dnd which had a big following of people that brought many to watch his streams that otherwise just a consistent fan base of his. I remember the old days of showing up to watch them all, and just how the chat box would explode with people joking around and having fun. And, he invited spoony to his session. Then all sudden things broke down just like with CA and spoony left. The group went on then withered away. Then when Lupa event happens, LordKat just shits on Spoony with no holding back. It was stupid and even worse because LordKat had the same thing happen to him, where someone accused him abusing a girl at some event. Which you think after that experience LordKat wouldn't want to just shit on someone for a small mistake or accusation of harassment.

[@FuriousGorge]

Realtalk: Whoever ponied up the cash for the Missing Person banner ads is a legend.

[@siray3232]

I wheezed at this part, this person is a freaking genius

[@dead_hotdogs-8731]

How much would those banner ads cost?

[@srorrim]

literally SO FUCKING FUNNY

[@RUDY-COLEMAN]

so apparently you can bid for ad space on his site, so someone just bid one cent and won

[@Evil0tto]

I was a huge Channel Awesome fan back in the day, and Spoony was my favorite. I thought he genuinely had the best comedic timing among the whole group. It's a shame what happened to him, but I hope he can claw his way back and return someday.

[@spockman4250]

I use to love Channel Awesome as a kid. But then I grew up and now I can't watch their videos without cringing. I know there's probably a decent amount of people who were there who were cool and chill, but so many of them come off as self important or delusional to the type of content they make, the quality of it, and its actual relevance to critical discussion about that media as a whole.

[@paolo2763]

Oh yeah... Nostalgia critic's videos always had that moment where all the character stopped to hear Doug's _Enlighting wise words about the movie_ and then they all agree, saving the day. (Because, you know, Doug and his brother wrote the script)

[@SomeKindaSpy]

Exact same story here, except once in a blue moon i'll put on kickassia to laugh at the cringe.

[@AndI0td763]

I never found Doug Walker that funny. His whole looney toons schtick was annoying and childish. At times he could give decent commentary. They had some good content creators on there but overall just a lot of pretentious and unfunny content.

[@beepot2764]

Damn the LordKaT stream was uncomfortable.

[@AnkfordPlays]

He left out the worst parts, if you can find the full one or any other time LordKat brings up CA it's just a LOT of bile. He truly blames AngryJoe and Spoony for never making it big himself.

[@SoilderKrizer]

Fame hurts people alot hell I don't want to do KZbin mainly because it feels like every KZbinr losses his shit now or later

[@ephemera5714]

He seems like a spiteful man.

[@dr.g5261]

Listen to the incident between him and Diamanda Hagan. The guys is like the worst traits of a nerd all rolled up into one incredibly round ball.

[@beepot2764]

Dr. G thanks for the info everyone👍

[@Ikcatcher]

There should really be a side series called Internet Tragedies cause Spoony was a damn tragedy if I’ve ever seen one

[@franklinturtleton6525]

Wait isn't he still doing content with Doug Walker?

[@JimmySentence]

absolutely agree i loved my time spent watching his videos. Grew up watching old videos waiting for new ones to come out. Miss those times when it comes to spoony

[@Wolfpaw754]

Ikcatcher oh the dcigs/angry black man thing is way worse and nobody even remembers the guy

[@yulusleonard985]

You can try mister metokur / jim he has one.

[@baronsengir187]

Still watch his videos from time to time.

[@JyujinPlus]

I wanna say… 18:05: “Ive apologized. Ive begged. Is it blood you want? Tears?” 27:05: “I wasn’t really sorry,” Classy, Noah. Acting up a storm like he should’ve been cleared from consequence because he apologized, but admits to himself, and listeners of his commentary, that he didn’t mean it. He just wanted to get out of people dogging him on Twitter.

[@LordMangudai]

Whenever people "apologize" with such desperate melodramatic self-flagellating "oh I'm so awful" language it's practically guaranteed to be insincere. You can tell because they are still making it about *themselves* and how *they* should act rather than the feelings of the one they are apologizing to. They are putting on an act to gain back standing but they don't understand that they've done anything wrong. You can 100% tell that Spoony doesn't mean a word of those apologies.

[@Ziobbe]

He said the same things when people didn't like his review of Man of Steel. His 'apology' is the lashing out of a tantruming child. "I don't like that thing you said" "OMG You LITERALLY want me to CUT MY BALLS OFF and WHIP MYSELF in PUBLIC you ASSHOLE only MY DEATH will sate your BLOODLUST" Not an apology, but an attack. Making everything about *him* and how hurt *he* is. He's impossible to deal with. I'd feel bad for the guy but he just refuses to do anything about it.

[@mcmlxxxviimcmxcvi8641]

He seems to be doing better now. There is a recent interview on Conversations With Curtis where he seems to be in good health and shape and hints at future reviews...

[@Ridiculousman2nd]

Yeah I watched that. I was so surprised to see the guy from the game again and even more surprised he had spoony on. I think it did spoony good staying away from the Internet. Its like he was destroying himself for the Internet the same way some child actors do

[@schleepy6362]

Honestly I think he's the kind of person who should just keep away from the internet in general. I'm really glad he's doing better, but this is a shitty place, and he just might not be built to handle it.

[@skippythealien9627]

@@schleepy6362 this really is the best way to put it. I started college basically right when youtube became a thing and then exploded in the late 2000s to early 2010s. It's scary how many of those content creators either just flat out disappeared, or it took a massive toll on their mental health

[@xxCrazyIzzyxx]

To be fair LordKat has the charisma of a wet paper bag. Spoony didn't ruin his career prospects, he never really had any to begin with.

[@buggs9950]

"Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character"

[@acespectre5461]

@@buggs9950 "I have character!"

[@Mngalahad]

i watched his rants and i analyzed them myself with a marketing perspective (because it was kind of fun) but i dont really think it makes sense for him to complain about it.

[@blizzardregulus]

Yeah, Lordkat should be happy that Spoony gave his ego a flimsy shield to hide behind. If he was anything worth writing home about, he wouldn't have been "that fat guy hanging around Spoony."

[@lukejones7366]

Almost couldn't make it through LordFat ranting through his grease lined throat.. Egads! what a nut gargler🍆🥜

[@rambletash]

"Act like a professional" says Lordkat, while talking like a 12 year old throwing a tantrum.

[@TheIbney00]

RambleTash I thought that was ridiculous. Not only is he acting like a child while talking about it, but he also gets mad at Spoony for overreacting from the Xcom announcement, despite he himself stating that he was connected to either Blistered Thumbs and TGWTG.

[@WobblesandBean]

LordKat was _completely_ justified in his rage towards Spoony. You don't understand just how tight knit the games industry is. Everyone knows everybody, and if you fuck up, no one's gonna give you a second chance. I moved to London from Seattle, and I STILL meet people who have heard of me through colleagues. What Spoony did was fuck up LK's chances at a brilliant career. Not to say he'd have succeeded had the interview with Notch taken place, but regardless, him and everyone else associated with Spoony were unfairly blacklisted. You just don't do that to a game dev, especially not in such a crass, childish manner. I hate LordKat, he's a fucking worthless oxygen thief and an all around sack of shit, but in this case, I kinda don't blame him for blowing up like that.

[@awesometown1000]

Amelia Bee And throwing a tantrum is gonna make his presence better? I get why he did it, but insulting an old coworker as much as he did was unnecessary and hurt his own image in the process.

[@WobblesandBean]

Bowser No, I totally get it, I'm no fan of LK whatsoever. He's an asshole. I'm just saying I understand his rage and frustration after having some clown destroy what would have been the crown jewel of his career.

[@lacywhitevalenti7234]

This is why game reviewers and reporters are such hacks. They aren't honest. So many awful big budget games get amazing press coverage because the "reporters" care more about staying in the fold than serving the public. Sadly it's also true of most sports reporters. As someone who has studied journalism, I find it pretty reprehensible. Spoony was 100% correct about XCOMM.

[@delphinidin]

I think the moral of this story is less "fame is sometimes dangerous" and maybe more "bipolar disorder is a b!tch and also don't stop seeing your psychiatrist."

[@cheapglass1432]

The interesting thing about spoony is that since Channel Awesome is pretty much defunct now, all the remaining reviewers fit into four categories: Quit the Internet, happy with their content and popular, happy with their content and unpopular, or dead. The only two who don't fit this are NC, since he hates doing the thing that made him popular, and Spoony, who basically downward spiralled like no other Channel Awesome member has.

[@stoneman472]

Personally, I think Bennet and Lindsey got out of it the best.

[@LordMangudai]

@@stoneman472 Angry Joe seems to be doing really well too. 3+ million subscribers is by far the most of any CA or ex-CA content creator. I don't watch his stuff very often anymore (and he churns out a loooooooot of filler content) but he's remained true to his identity, never seems to generate any drama, hasn't tried to get too big for his boots and seems pretty happy. Good for him honestly.

[@stoneman472]

@@LordMangudai true. Linkara and Phelan are still cranking out content and the regular and both have over 100k. Cinema Snob is still associated with Critic but he mostly still does his own thing and has over 150k. I'm just glad that most of them are still doing good

[@progunjack5556]

Todd in the Shadows still putting out content but kind of in the middle on whether or not he's popular or unpopular

[@salmonandsoup]

@@progunjack5556 He's popular in a somewhat niche genre. The two names I immediately think of are Todd and Anthony Fantano.

[@undeadnightorc]

2019 was a very rough year for Spoony. He got into a car accident (which he caused) and he received a foreclosure notice for his house among other things. I have a feeling this rabbit hole is about to go deeper.

[@andrewortiz1703]

And yet he keeps tweeting.

[@Dovah21]

April left him recently too, so I heard. The end has come, honestly.

[@seanstark4312]

Let's hope he doesn't go on some sort of armed rampage next

[@ihvojd]

How did he cause the car accident?

[@kizakhalifornia]

@@ihvojd He ran a red light, hit another car sending one innocent person to the hospital. Then he lied to the police saying it was green even through there were multiple witnesses on the site. Then he bitched on stream that he had to go to court.

[@radicard5193]

It's amazing how long AVGN's career actually is and how it had no actual downfall. He managed to make a movie and continue making reviews with an evolved persona.

[@joeylafrond2472]

I feel the only major error that he made was letting Mike have more control over the channel. But I am biased, seeing as I hate the man.

[@Ross-hn3ui]

Joey LaFrond I've never met anyone who likes Mike

[@mokinokaro]

James actually isn't much of a tech guy. Mike has been handling the website all along.

[@yogoshun]

I don't mind Mike, but I will agree that I feel like he has a little too much control over the channel.

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

That's Mike, he handles the forums and social media.

[@lancebaylis3169]

Noah's Ultima videogame retrospectives were seminal internet for me. He's had a heck of a IRL, but those videos will always hold the fondest place in my memory. That he got Richard Garriot himself to collab on them was beyond amazing.

[@acek.7094]

I'm just stunned that someone with his sense of humor could genuinely get people to pay him 5k a month. God I've been doing it all wrong

[@paolo2763]

Keep in mind there weren't many people making content back then... People was just desperate for content

[@acek.7094]

@@paolo2763 yeah, good point.

[@lilyblueharsh]

Spoony was great back in the day. Maybe it was a different time and you had to be there, but his videos weren't just humorous and entertaining, there was also a sense of comfiness to them. The way Noah filmed in his bedroom with minimal editing, no stupid jump cuts, very few skits, made it feel more like you were sitting with a buddy shooting the shit about old video games.

[@videogamenostalgia]

I won’t defend the endless vlogs where he rambles and his awful personality shines through, but for the time his reviews were ok and his commentary was very entertaining, and he had a good knowledge of obscure bad movies. He had a very natural, easy camera presence and wasn’t a total tryhard like the Nostalgia Critic. It was perfect ‘comfy’ content and excellent background noise.

[@KittyPieVibes]

Comedy evolves over time as well. Think of all those top text/bottom text memes from 2011 that we all loved so much. Now just 12 years later something like that unironically would make us cringe

[@pseudonym1515]

21:15 " I want you to act professional for once" *Proceeds to swear intensely*

[@quanhittersupreme6738]

Pseudo Nym Yeah it honestly makes it harder to tell if Spoony acting clownish was the only reason he didn’t get the job

[@thehobgoblin7932]

Indeed!

[@Lostcontroller]

Does it surprise you? Anyone involved with Channel Awesome and Doug Walker acted like a bunch of manchildren off camera and when being confronted with something they did not like.

[@jackhazardous4008]

"act like a professional and you ave a small penis"

[@halcatrazfowkes]

Lostcontroller yeah it sounds like he lost job opportunities because he’s socially inept, but he has to blame someone else

[@videonmode8649]

Spoony: "I can take whatever insult you throw at me" Also Spoony: _Bans people and posts his tantrums when people criticize him_

[@ernestbrown9660]

That's been Spoony's MO ever since his days writing for Knights of the Dinner Table. He's perfectly fine spewing all over other people's work, but when the least little criticism of *him* occurs, no matter how well-meant or constructive, he flies off the handle and screams for the banhammer.

[@savage1267]

Ja. Not just ignoring the trolls / haters seems to be a problem with a lot of these people.

[@chaosinc.382]

Reminds me of my friend Alberto.

[@gabe6550]

@@ernestbrown9660 This reminds me of an infamous german youtuber, the Drachenlord (Dragonlord). The difference between him and Spoony is, his content was shitty from the beginning and hasn't changed since.

[@punk7246]

"posting his tantrums" sounds more like LordKat

[@Astro_Guy_1]

Update on Spoony: While he will never have any fame or large community anymore, he streams regularly now and sounds like he is doing alot better.

[@Endar0]

Yeah. He seems to be enjoying streaming.

[@coryspang7548]

Good to hear. I hope he is doing better mentally.

[@BeyondBaito]

Seeing LordKat call Spoony a loser is like when Syndicate called Wings a cheater. PS: Spoony didn't cripple LordKat's chances at interviewing Notch. Your channel was breaking less than 1000 views an upload, and by the time this happened that wasn't impressive anymore. Face it LK. You're just mad Spoony acting like a nut was the biggest boost in views you guys ever got.

[@brovid-19]

is that a pot and kettle situation or... ?

[@BeyondBaito]

@@brovid-19 yep

[@TheAirBear2000]

Or Keemstar calling Wings a bully.

[@brovid-19]

@@BeyondBaito that's what I presumed, but i don't follow any of these folks and heard no juicy dramas so what happuhn?

[@brovid-19]

GOD DANGIT WHAT HAPPENED, I NEED THE JUICY DEETS

[@w1lDstYLe]

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that thinks LordKat made an ass of himself and sounds like a child. I don't think Spoony is a great person, but reacting to Spoony with loud anger and clearly bitter swearing isn't a good look.

[@travismcgrath6917]

I love that he sandwiched the phrase 'act like a professional' between saying he's frightened of his stunted member and calling him a fucking retard.

[@Thentavius]

@@travismcgrath6917 The greater irony is that if what I've heard from the grapevine is true, LordKat has done far scummier crap in all of a few years than Spoony'd done in his entire life. LordKat should've checked his privilege at the door instead of hammering a rap sheet onto his head.

[@InspectorZanigata]

As much as I think Spoony is kinda a idiot, Lord Kat really doesn't have alot of room to talk himself...

[@TheKing-uu7jn]

@@Thentavius holy crap. Really?

[@blizzardregulus]

To be fair, not having a good look is baseline for Lordkat.

[@LeanifyTV]

This series is so great, yet so depressing.

[@hariman7727]

Ugh, yeah. Especially if you're a former fan of The Spoony One, like I was. He really did just kind of break over the years. The more he focused on politics, the further he got into his storylines, and especially the more he came face to face with the fanbase his earlier, more juvenile work had created, the worse off he became.

[@BirdOfPrey1414]

Well, there was his girlfriend, but this didn't really help.

[@n0etic_f0x]

Kind of like Noah.... fuck that was too meta

[@e.t.566]

And sometimes its creepy or it's something disturbing that I can't handle ( the pedo dude ) But yeah I guess it is but its also interesting

[@StephonZeno]

I see these as cautionary tales for future content creators.

[@manwithaporpoiseYTsucksD]

Twitter destroyed this guy just like it's destroyed many others. We personally have a couple friends who have been turned into miserable, hateful, and divisive weirdos because of it as well. Be just as cautious of what you put in your mind as you do your body, probably even more so.

[@pt8306]

Twitter is cancer and absolutely nobody should use it

[@fawnieee]

Twitter didn't force him to post those things. He's a grown man, start holding grown men accountable.

[@iMajoraGaming]

no. twitter didn't compel him to "joke" about wanting to sexually assault a coworker, nor anything prior to it, or after lmao he destroyed himself, not twitter, him. twitter didn't like, radicalize him, neither the platform itself or the people there did either. honestly i doubt it contributed at all to his mental decline or actions, feels more like it made him being a lil shit more publicly visible, it served as a window. his antics on his forums show he was just a dickhead from the start, nothing made him one, that's just how he is, and social media just gave us a window into it. i'm sure it wasn't pleasant that he got criticism or scrutiny, and when he got really shitty, the criticism was even more loud and harsh, and it affected him, sure, but... in a way, i just feel like what happened was social media enabled him to be awful in front of a public audience, so in a way, twitter enabled him, but i don't think it was much of what destroyed him itself.

[@LukasWeber64]

He made a horrible rape joke and never sincerely apologized, and he even openly admitted multiple times that he wasn’t sorry. He was in his thirties at the time, so it’s not like he was just a dumb teenager who deserves to be cut some slack. I was on Twitter for years, and while I agree that Twitter is terrible, Twitter doesn’t make you do that sort of thing. This guy is not a good person-he’s got serious character issues-and it’s not just because “he spends too much time on Twitter.”

[@apassionatenerd.3564]

This man destroyed himself, Twitter didn't have to do jack.

[@CosplayLane]

Dude had a 5k/month budget to make a small film (so think of it this way, if he promised to deliver it in a year the budget for the movie would be 60k. Even if he only made 10k back after it was done he still would be ‘up’ by 10k since 60k was funded by fans.). With that budget I don’t see how he couldn’t do a dramatic review styled drama movie. He was given SO MANY chances by his fans to make it good. His fans funded him way beyond what most people ever would for someone that has such a sketchy past. He had it so good and could have done so much with it... very unfortunate.

[@Gonzalo_105]

he chickend out

[@rjmunster9600]

I'm surprised that no one tried to sue him after failing to make the movie.

[@videogamenostalgia]

The concept of a ‘Spoony movie’ sounds horrible. His skits were always middling at best - his best material was the casual commentary or “geeky friend simulator” type content. I don’t really wanna see Noah doing acting for a prolonged period.

[@KajiCarson]

Indeed, the spotlight got to him, blinded him with expectation, but mostly he shined it on himself.

[@bluedistortions]

So after Patreons cut and taxes, he had $40k in a year to make a movie? That's enough to live on. Nothing more. Who was he going to hire? Nobody? How was he going to afford costumes, equipment, props? I've never understood how fans think he was going to do all that, and his regular content, on that kind of budget, with no additional help. It's like a child's understanding of money when they get their first minimum wage paycheck, vs. the reality as an adult when you start paying your own bills.

[@bunnydexter7178]

Ah, 2006 to 2007. Back when you try to search for a song it you gave you a " no results found." And when ratings were stars instead of likes and dislikes. Good times, good times.

[@xenxander]

Back when I was just starting college. Those videos got me through my college days ^^ They are the good times.

[@thepooroldsoul8179]

Back when I was little...

[@suprcrzy]

I remember when you used to be able to leave video replies on the video you were watching. And there was a little section on the page where it would show up. A comment wasnt good enough lol, they wanted you to leave a video reply.

[@thepooroldsoul8179]

They also had two comment slots for the most liked/disliked comment on the video.

[@Rangernewb5550]

Back when I thought 240p was acceptable.

[@trush0t1]

"START ACTING PROFESSIONAL!" Starts cussing out spoony. lol

[@Speedojesus]

awald5 They guy had a potentially life changing opportunity ruined by Spoony, I think he deserves a good small dick insult.

[@keijijohnson9754]

Jeb Bush's Gynecologist He really could’ve done better than that, though. Considering someone like him, making fun of someone’s size after their ex dumped him is as low as one could go. And even than it would’ve still be somewhat unnecessary.

[@louschwick7301]

+Jeb Bush's Gynecologist - if only he hadnt tried to take the high road

[@coolsiideri]

he had the moral high ground and wasted it, wow what a dumbass

[@FischiPiSti]

Oh yeah, an interview. He was bound to become the next geoff keighley

[@MattTheMan]

I took a look at his Twitter today, whenever he posts about his personal life it is downright depressing. When someone asked why he was down when he was supposedly happy the previous week he said: “Nothing happened. I just get lonely. Nearly everything I do is a stinging reminder of that.”

[@madmanpecos]

Looking at the Twitter feels like reading into my own mind

[@cjinworldofgaming511]

I love how in the comment section, one half is about Spoony and his tragic fall, and the other half is making fun of LordKat for his hypocrisy

[@Ryan-Petre]

Damn that dude LordKat has some issues of his own to take care of, sounds like he's talking to himself.

[@WeirdWonderful]

@Jaegar19Ultima That's good, cause last time when I was on his stream, he was talking about the insane hours his employer at the time was demanding of him.

[@valentinkrajzelman4649]

Sounds like that

[@psrdirector]

sounds like a guy blaming others for his own failure

[@Toanon]

I let out an audible “oh fuck” when I read the title of this video

[@nakenmil]

Same.

[@megamage911]

Same tbh.

[@tt30guy]

Takua

[@zkdr6278]

LordKat is an a-log in this situation. He's worse than Spoony in a lot of regards

[@damekkoDark]

for someone with bipolar who also way too active on social media when manic and don't remember half the stuff I do in that state when back to depression this is chilling

[@le9374]

Stay safe! Good vibes sent to you my friend. I deleted my twitter. (Actually I never even really went on my account) We’re all one short tweet of people judging text as if they were horrrrrrrible actions

[@TheDude90100]

Well LordKat sounds like a real charmer.

[@wisemage0]

You mean to tell me that this person wasn't able to spin a career out of being an online influencer? Imagine my shock.

[@Varangian_af_Scaniae]

​@@wisemage0 And it was Spoony and Angry Joes faulty. I have never seen anything made by that bozo and I dislike him to no end. Blaming others for your own short comings is one of the worst things a man can do.

[@DarrenWatson64]

Sure Lordkat is being a whiny crybaby over the incident, but I also do think the Mojang representative was kind of a dick. Just because he was in the same company as Spoony, and he shuts down the whole thing? That’s like if Sony and Microsoft ban every person at IGN from attending their events just because the company is once associated with Filip Miucin.

[@lizzychrome7630]

Yeah, no matter what everyone else did, that response from a supposedly professional KZbinr was shockingly childish.

[@valletas]

@@Varangian_af_Scaniae feels like when i played with my brother as a kid and he would blame me because a enemy would kill him and i wasnt there to help

[@FabinHim]

The story of Channel Awesome itself is equally fascinating, as Spoony seems to be almost a strangely prophetic vision of how the entire site eventually decayed and fell apart, and while many of its content creators still produce content (Linkara for instance *still* pumps out a new video each week), most of those productive content creators left the site entirely (Lupa, Phelous, and now Linkara himself), and the site looks increasingly sparse and decayed, with a focus almost entirely on Nostalgia Critic’s content (which could arguably be a video unto itself). Its all rather fascinating, when you think about it.

[@iamknife7]

nostalgia chick also still releases videos under the name Lindsey Elis

[@xSTATOKEx]

How popular is Linkara anyway, does he do enough to get by at least? I'd love a video on the Nostalgia Critic, there is a lot to unpack there. I mean, he all but admitted the only reason why he keeps going is to keep Channel Awesome alive and help some of the smaller names.

[@MJSHappy]

And I'd say they're better quality than ever

[@saloz9483]

from what I heard a lot of people like linkara just get by thanks to patreon. He said himself if it wasint for that he would basically be in trouble.

[@SuperDav1995]

metokur's tgwtg did a good coverage on the topic.

[@nyckelhypa]

I grew up with Spoony/Channel Awesome and always had a sort of love-hate relationship with Spoony. Thing is, he was never a good critic. He was an entertaining guy and he could find plot holes in games and films like nobody’s business, but he never did much more than that. The worst thing about him was his inability to accept criticism or even counter-arguments to his points. He relied on what I’ve coined “soft censorship”, claiming whatever he wanted about a game or film and then attempting to pre-emptively shield himself from counter-arguments with absurd statements like “the fanboys will say otherwise” or “the nostalgia-blinded fans will cry their pardon.” He did it in his (in)famous review of Final Fantasy VIII, for example. I don’t think FF VIII is a good game, but to say that only “fanboys” would “cry” about him bringing up realism when analyzing a fantasy-based video game was a clear sign he was never interested in a conversation, discussion or debate. It was always “agree with me, or you’re stupid/wrong by default.” A critic who can’t take any criticism will always almost certainly fail in the end, as Spoony has. Considering everything Spoony has been and done (especially the car crash), I find it difficult to even feel slightly sorry for him at this point.

[@aztro.99]

dont go on his twitter, bro is hooked up to some machine that allows him to post every single thought that comes to his mind

[@megamarsonic]

Man I wish I listened to you.

[@thebigw1231]

Just looked at it now, its insane he has really gone off the deepend.

[@EpicCoolGuy21]

I highly doubt LordKat’s only reason for not making it in the industry is Spoony yelling at a single convention. That’s absolutely ludicrous. The truth is LordKat is a spiteful man who can’t take anyone’s advice and didn’t make it into the industry because, according to him, nothing was ever his fault. Everyone around him was the reason he was failing. Even before the ChannelAwesome leaks and the whole Spoony ordeal, Katz was already kicking up shit with other creators at TGWTG.

[@JadeEyes1]

LordKat's living proof that anti-SJWs can be just as insane and unbalanced as SJWs.

[@Knoxerboy101]

Exactly. Jason is just a very bitter person in general and absolutely burns any bridge with anyone who even ever so slightly ticks him off. He talks of being professional, but he constantly does the exact opposite. Like, he had another TGWTG personality named Nash on his podcast a lot and seemed to be good friends with him. I stopped watching Jason's (LordKat) content for a few years, then one day decided to see what he was up to. The first thing I come back to is him calling Nash a "little bitch" and all that because of some small disagreement or whatever. It's sad honestly. I really liked Jason back in 2011 and 2012, but as with Spoony, he and his attitude were his own undoing.

[@reloadpsi]

The only thing I know about their interactions comes from an episode of Counter Monkey. Specifically, LordKaT made a serious tactical error during play that was detrimental to another player (he shot a bow into melee and hit the other player) but insisted he did it because it was the only option available to his character (rather than simply not acting that turn, which apparently didn't occur to him) but then Spoony pretends he's not sure it was actually him. Didn't really think about that until I read your comment. (I think there was this incident with Spoony barging in on one of his gaming sessions with others as well, and they all told him to piss off.)

[@superfreq7378]

That and he didn't even have the self control to stop him self from flying off the handle on stream and swearing up a hateful storm. How "professional", how "mature".

[@Juel92]

@@JadeEyes1 Lol just look at the comment section of any BFV video... or Star Wars TLJ video... or a Screenrant comment section... etc. and you'll have more proof than you'll ever need.

[@KishinZephrite]

The patrons should be happy. There's finally a Spoony movie, just not the one they expected.

[@KingRemoji]

Kishin Zephrite everybody who donated might as well give their patreon to THIS guy! Lol!! 🤣

[@worldsmostboringslotchanne1642]

lol

[@worldsmostboringslotchanne1642]

I do also hope that Spoony goes go through with his Patron promise

[@anirudhviswanathan3986]

@@worldsmostboringslotchanne1642 Fat chance of that.

[@burntreynolds1068]

Five years on : Spoony's doing better [kinda how you'd be better off wiping your butt with wire wool than a knife], uploads videos regularly, and even did a series of friendly interviews with the dude from Phantasmagoria.

[@nelcomargaming6612]

Lord kat rant is just him being salty and he blames sponny on his lack of talent

[@RoyStantz]

OK, but people like LordKat do make the best observers and reliable narrators.

[@mck7646]

We really shouldn't be assuming and acting like we know the whole story. Spoony definitely ruined opportunities for LK, that we know. He had genuine problems with Noah, just because his rant is awful and there's some low blows in it doesn't mean he's completely blaming him for his lack of success. He's referring to the incident and how it affected his standing at cons and elsewhere. It is what it is, let's not act like we know everything about what happened but we do know that LK was right about Spoony.

[@Admin-qy4zi]

LK is a bitter POS

[@joshguye]

Something about LordKat angrily ranting about Spoony with his happy podcast art showing is the funniest thing to me.

[@johnboko7110]

Yeah he show everybody his disgusting side

[@MentalLiberation]

@@johnboko7110 See Lordkat/Diamanda Hagan controversy.

[@johnboko7110]

@@MentalLiberation Uh no actually 😆

[@MentalLiberation]

@@johnboko7110 alright I'll show myself out, standing corrected. 😆. Oh look, a video on why Steven Universe is garbage....uh oh... this won't end well..

[@johnboko7110]

@@MentalLiberation Are you defending him ?

[@SlimbTheSlime]

LordKaT sounds like an evil villain’s backstory.

[@Demiglitch]

If the evil villain is a school shooter.

[@Tornado1994]

He's a Registered Sex Offender.

[@JadeEyes1]

Oddly enough, he does have an archnemesis. And it isn't Noah. It's some fat loser named "Big Fazeek" who was on a reality show who's stalking him, for some reason.

[@ForrestFox626]

I think you are giving him too much credit

[@SlimbTheSlime]

@@Tornado1994 True villain

[@ComradeCage]

LordKat: "I no longer respect Noah Antweiler' *literally minutes later* LordKat: *obscenities about how Noah lives his life, penis comments and other assorted low blows* Dont get me wrong, Spoony's messed up, but god damn this other guy sounds like he cant let go. Hes the only person over the course of this I feel like needs a therapist, other than Spoony.

[@Thomas.Wright]

He blames Noah for his own failure to find work in serious game journalism.

[@KerythDraws]

Goes to show you can get a good idea of the measure of a man through their actions and reactions.

[@brianmcclure4913]

The Spoony story is a cautionary tale of people with Bipolar Disorder. I hope he finds the help he needs to be a better person in the long run.

[@johnrayker6245]

James Rolfe was a hyper-creative legend and remains that til this day.

[@aiis6821]

Yup.he keeps getting better and better. A very rare case indeed.

[@heathercalun4919]

I mean I never thought he was all that funny or entertaining. And outside of doing a very specific thing first, his content was never that original. And even though his content rarely veered into explicit sexism it always seemed more than comfortable with alienating any women in the audience. And the obsession with scat and profanity makes him look like either a twelve year old boy or somebody with a sexual fixation. And the Nostalgia Critic was always slightly more clever than him, which is a low bar. And honestly even though there are some AVGN videos I'll watch over and over again, many of the episodes were duds, and even now the show seems to be losing the little creative momentum it had, as it gets increasingly bogged down with skits and obscure lore. But das jus me tho.

[@TheSecondVersion]

Because James Rolfe is a filmmaker through and through. He made a video once about how he grew up loving cinema and honing his skills at movie-making, and you can see that he's been *really* passionate about the art ever since he was a kid. That passion translated into a career where he's always growing and finding new and better ways to express himself. Noah sounds like some guy who stumbled into this sort of thing and didn't really know how to take it from there. Hell, he could have coasted on the quality he was at for years if he didn't make an ass of himself. Noah failed at two relationships and made 0% progress towards a Patreon-funded movie. Meanwhile, James got *married,* and made an Angry Video Game Nerd feature film

[@WarpChaos]

@@heathercalun4919 The Nostalgia Critic is, and will always be, a store-brand version of the AVGN.

[@Goldenbane]

@@heathercalun4919 Where the hell do you get AVGN's content being sexist??? I get not liking the vulgarity or the potty humor, but when did James' content ever have anything to do with hating women? Because he called April O Neil a bitch once? Because he chewed out Jessica Rabbit? Because he just doesn't have many women on his show? I don't get it. And please don't try to bring up Ghostbusters 2016, because that had nothing to do with the AVGN series, or hating women either.

[@RetailArchaeology]

I went to school with Noah and this makes me sad. I only found out recently that he had become "KZbin famous" when I was watching an old episode of The Game Chasers and saw him in it. I hope he's figuring out whatever it is he needs to figure out.

[@slayer-22]

Retail Archaeology What was he like back then, if you don't mind me asking?

[@ThemedNumber02]

What was he like back then?

[@castillalancelet478]

He describes his school days in many of his videos. As a fan it would be interesting to know how he was during that time.

[@RetailArchaeology]

I went to junior high and high school with him. He was your typical nerdy guy back then. Unfortunately he got picked on a little bit in junior high because of it. I think that all kind of stopped in high school though. He was always pretty funny and sharp and always seemed pretty nice. He certainly seemed a lot more emotionally stable in high school that he seems now. He played Magic the Gathering at lunch quite a bit from what I remember. We weren't really close friends or anything and we probably had a lot more contact in junior high and then high school. After high school I just kind of lost track of him.

[@Rangernewb5550]

Wow. Small world.

[@mothersbasement]

Just went to check, and Spoony hasn't tweeted in over a month. Hope he's okay.

[@Kaosxca]

Surprised to see you here, to answer your question -He got into a car accident and left two people hospitalized -His wife left him -He was unable to pay his mortgage and his bills and now is homeless (though I think he now lives with his parents)

[@thunderdraco]

oh look, its the woke crunchyroll shill and racist

[@Kaosxca]

@@thunderdraco what did he do? (I am not aware of any controversies)

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@thunderdraco ??

[@Horrormaster13]

@Mother's Basement He is since 9th August homeless.

[@WizzardJC]

LordKat whining about missing so called opportunities and calling out spoony for lack of professionalism while insulting him like a juvenile is honestly pathetic imo

[@Crinbo]

As bad as Noah has gotten he’s still more likable than lordkat

[@jimmervision]

this is honestly just straight up sad... and a cautonary tale to everyone: mental illness are no joke. It can make you so unstable that you end up pushing everyone who looks up to you or love you away, which only make everything so much worse. Spoony was one of my favourite internet celebrities back in the day, and in respect for that memory i hope, wherever he is, that he makes a speedy recovery and achieve , as closest as it can be, a normal and happy life. Away from the public eye.

[@reversecolin1256788]

and a shit ton are

[@KSEG]

Am I the only one who thought LordKat's ramblings to be the most disturbing thing in the entire video? That was kind of scary.

[@SunnyAznable]

KSEG scary, unprofessional, damn near pathological, immature and yes, definitely the worst thing on this video. Clearly he is keen to blame everyone but himself for his lack of success and doesn’t really thank the numerous people who made him even slightly relevant all that much. I’m sad to see Noah decline and change for the worse and hope he gets better; I’m otherwise glad LordKat is irrelevant and has all but taken his own advice and given up. He’s no loss to the internet.

[@Blue_eye_devil]

fat aggression is indeed horrifying

[@TheyDarthElmo]

Just a bit of context LK's Dad had just died and on top of dealing with his own grief his mom became abusive and a full-on acholic to deal with hers, doesn't excuse it but their is some other context for it.

[@TheFunklin]

Glad somebody else said something, I definitely felt weirded out listening to his anger

[@TKUltra971]

Can't really blame LordKat. The whole industry is a giant game - and you really cant be acting like that in public. It's called home training - Spoony applied none.

[@adamspimbly4706]

A guide to telling bad jokes online. 1. Tell a really joke about sexually assaulting one of your work colleagues 2. Act shocked that everyone disapproves of the joke 3. Apologise for saying you'd sexually assault one of your colleagues, and then get mad when everyone doesn't magically forget what you said (even when you admit after you weren't actually sorry) 4. Comedically compare yourself to hitler to try and downplay what you've done 5. Tell people they didn't get the joke 6. Something something free speech 7. Ban people who says things you don't like from your own forum IQ 1000 level moves there

[@RoyStantz]

This should be a cautionary tale for all current and future KZbinrs. Your mind and body are not an unbreakable machine with unlimited bumps.

[@TCM464]

Whenever a person in these videos gets a girlfriend, I immediately brace myself for the eventual Time o' Shit that's about to befall the girlfriend.

[@Nightenstaff]

From my understanding of it all, Scarlet was a stand up woman who tried like crazy to get Noah straight. April... I dunno... I've heard some dirty stuff about April. I'm sure it was an abusive relationship on both sides.

[@fz7788]

Man when i see a mention i just see how itll go downhill

[@Fucklifedeadshit]

Kind of the fallout of dating someone for their minimal e fame

[@Unknown-hb3id]

Except with someone like Chris Chan. That's usually the other way around lol

[@TheSutanian]

The most messed up thing about Spoony's departure is how he slowly descended not only into online inactivity but into literal mental insanity and that ends up hitting harder than it should have been.

[@mountainspirit5858]

Real nostalgia video here. Remember watching this guy when I was like 12 or 13 (25 now) and I never thought there would ever be a documentary like this about him when I was that age