Director of Chainsaw Man is Leaving MAPPA for Something New

[@ChibiReviews]

Thoughts on this?

[@SystemoftheManga]

Sad to see him go but, seeing how much he and the crew poured into that project he will be fine. I wished the best for the next director who will work on chainsaw man. it will be different from season 1, but hopefully domestic market will like it this time.

[@Papameme-rg3ig]

It's a damn shame, especially since if given a proper schedule, ryu nakayamas vision of the project would have been one of the most stylized TV anime to date.

[@orpheemulemo8053]

Yoh chibi did you watch this anime Paradox live that came out this season because I think it's pretty in credible it's a mister esk anime with music and idols with a twist I think as an oshi no fan you would like this

[@deadchatenjoyer7055]

im sure season 2 will be leap from now

[@yaser_sr4sr432]

Good news for sure

[@andrealves6545]

It's a shame, but if his work wasn't being appreciated, I think he made the right call. I will miss him though, chainsaw man season 1 was top notch

[@anonisnoone6125]

Was it only the Japanese who didn't appreciate it?

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@anonisnoone6125 there’s a significant portion of manga fans in general who aren’t huge on the anime.

[@aiofg7545]

​@shadowreacts5618it was great for what it was just not meant for csm its too realistic

[@thomasffrench3639]

@shadowreacts5618 as an adaptation it leaves a lot of be desired, although the anime is good for what it is.

[@aarholodian]

What are you people smoking? Have we read the same manga, because to me the show captured the "intent" of the manga very well (maybe safe for slightly dragged out fights?) and I'd even say enhanced the original material. I was skeptical about how an adaptation would look like because the other options would be for it too look like a shallow flat shounen or something overly stylized for no descerbable reason, but it definitely surpassed my expectation, while still of course not being perfect. This was the only style that could capture the grim and chaotic/fast paced nature of fujimoto's writing well enough for it to be enjoyable in animation

[@mdshyboi]

i think my only complaint with the anime is that its only 12 episodes it barely covers any of the things that make chainsaw man so loved i wish they focused on that more

[@neoalurcard]

I agree it should've been at least 24 episodes.

[@TheSiZaGaming]

The production was falling apart by episode 8. They shouldn't have taken it past 12. In fact, Jujutsu Kaisen should also be single cour from now on. The production issues will be much less noticeable and then animators will undergo a lot less abuse.

[@kanyerahming]

Why is that an issue? I want it to be longer too but come on, every episode was ballin and had so much effort put into every single scene so I can’t even complain

[@mdshyboi]

@kanyerahming Yeah, but I feel like if they focused more on making the anime longer, even if it took more time, it would've been way more successful I honestly think they could've spared a bit of the effort, and the episodes would still look stunning

[@kanyerahming]

@@mdshyboi not their fault. They were supposed to work on JJK s2 but CSM got in the way. They didn’t have the time to do more in the short time they were given.

[@ianswinford5570]

I want more of “Chainsaw Man”, but I also want the people working on it to be happy and healthy, mentally and physically.

[@zap7737]

........i dont know how to break this to you

[@ianswinford5570]

Don't you dare!@@zap7737

[@ashersanjan125]

All I want is for the Chainsaw Man future adaptations to be given the love it deserves. If that requires MAPPA or any other studio to be more lenient on the animators, it's a basic requirement and one that NEEDS to happen. The CSM fanbase will not be happy with a bad adaptation owing to bad work environments. Somethings need to change, and studios need to take note and tone down on their pressure.

[@anonisnoone6125]

The govn really needs to step in and create new laws for the manga and anime industry.

[@re_striker3431]

Tatsuya Yoshihara(former director of black clover) is rumored to either direct chainsaw man or the next black clover season. If he directs csm, he has a lot of industry friends he can call on to help

[@anonisnoone6125]

@@re_striker3431Has his BC directing been good?

[@re_striker3431]

@anonisnoone6125 yes, the production schedule for black clover was so bad since it was weekly. He is the only reason why production didn't completely crash. Btw he also directed ep 4 of csm which was one of the best in the season, so he's more than competent as a director

[@bobbylight6739]

I don’t think any other future adaptations will be as good as season 1

[@anonisnoone6125]

A shame to see him go. It would've been really cool to see how he'd direct Hell and the final 2 arcs. I wish he would've directed all of CSM. Whoever the new director is, I hope they do a great job as well and build well upon Nakayama's work.

[@hajimehinata5854]

Nice pfp

[@alan_7390]

Hopefully, for the second one we will have Goshozono or Yoshihara, they are the ones closest to his ideas.

[@User_95168]

He'd of ruined them

[@frozenlettuce293]

​@@User_95168no saving someone like you with bad taste,

[@sodathejunker]

MAPPA’s whole situation is just sad. It’s so unnecessary. Good on him for knowing his worth and looking to better alternatives

[@Jestiii]

Lol, I think it was already known Mappa is a shady company. Remember, appreciate the animators, sound designers, music composers and people who are directly related to the making of the shows. Do not thank the greedy corporates.

[@piedra7040]

​@@JestiiiThe shady "black company" only started when they started animating popular mangas, back in 2010/11 MAPPA was basically a passion project with talented animators from Madhouse that wanted to do different variety of shows. Back in the day it was not like this 😢

[@atumanov55]

The thing with Chainsaw Man is that the first season barely covered anything in terms of the good parts of the story. Its just a basic introduction to the world and a few fights here and there. Season 2 though will be much more interesting and engaging. We will start to get real villains introduced, stakes will be raised a lot, new plots and characters will be revealed, etc. I think the Japanese will come around to like Chainsaw Man starting from the next season. Thats why I wished Chainsaw Man would've gotten 24 episodes off rip cuz the manga doesn't kick off until a bit later in the story

[@blueraizan]

They probably should've done it like JoJo's and did all of part 1 in one go. Something like a 39 episode season. Chainsaw man ended when it was starting to get good.

[@thomasffrench3639]

I don’t really see Japanese fans changing their minds unless a tone change happens

[@anonisnoone6125]

@@blueraizanUnfortunately, unlike DP, Mappa loves doing multiple animes at once. Plus, Mappa funded the entire project on its own, so making 24 to 39 eps for a whole season would be ridiculously expensive.

[@AppStateBuffaloBillsWaifu]

@@blueraizanyeah, or my thought was that instead of sinking the money into 12 episodes with 12 different ending themes/animation credits, direct it more towards a complete 24 episode season with 1 opening and 2 ending themes.

[@botondnyitrai3128]

You just don't get it do you? Most of the Japanese people who didn't like it are the ones who have actually read the manga. They don't like it, bcs the whole anime was trying to lean towards the western style both in cinematography and storytelling. For us it was great, but the truth is, the anime does not convey very well the vibe of the source material. Not to mention the general dislike towards mappa bcs of their horrible work environment.

[@colonialgandalf]

How incredibly sad. He is unique and a master of his arts. Wish him luck.

[@LFanimes333]

It’s insane that people didn’t like his direction. It was like a movie. Literally the vision of the author. It was up there with Frieren and Mushoku Tensei as one of the best manga adaptations of all time. Japanese people can be so imbecile at times. Westerns as well, of course, but fuck damn!

[@corey2232]

Chainsaw Man was awesome, crazy that Japan didn't like it. Silver lining, glad to hear there are still future Chainsaw Man projects in the works at all. Was worried it would be yet another one & done series.

[@atumanov55]

I think when a Season 2 comes around and the story really starts to kick off the Japanese will come around to like it. Season 1 was basically just an introduction to the world, it hasn't even scratched the surface of the best parts of the story

[@Dr.HooWho]

​@@atumanov55I feel second arc will be a movie

[@anonisnoone6125]

@@atumanov55Japanese people like trashier stuff than CSM that's actually just repetitive garbage like most isekais. I think a lot of them didn't like how it was handled in the anime.

[@abysskun9518]

@@atumanov55 They took the slowest part of the manga and animated on the most voring way possible. Not a great plan

[@zap7737]

@@atumanov55 the issue had nothing to do with the story "not kicking off", it was purely based on the visuals. The people complaining have read the whole manga lol

[@joshuukun]

It's Chainsover. Nakayama's cinematic vision was perfect for how I saw the manga when I read it. The later arcs would especially benefit from it, I feel. I just hope the new director continues this Tarantino-esque direction Nakayama had

[@zap7737]

The second half of the manga would look insane if Nakayama was directing. i couldnt wait. now i couldnt care less and will just enjoy part 2 of the manga right now.

[@sammysaito529]

The director step down specifically because people didn’t like his directing style, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment if you’re expecting the same direction

[@joshuukun]

@sammysaito529 I'm completely aware. This is why I made the comment praising his direction in the first place. I doubt CSM would lose the cinematic style given Fujimoto had a hand in it, not to mention the later arcs of first part CSM manga had tons of cinematic intent. I get it not exactly fitting the first season, but the later arcs wouldn't work any other way. I always thought that. If it does lose it, I'll gladly be disappointed. Why should I yield and lower my expectations? I won't lose a lot either way. As long as the adaptation's good regardless of the style then it's good for me.

[@alanrickman4385]

See, thats the thing, they didn’t need to start with this darkish cinematic approach, but introduce it in the later arcs instead. That way people would’ve felt like they were feeling in the manga. But now it looks like it’s gonna be reverse(if they are gonna change it with new director), which is making it even worse imo

[@joshuukun]

@@alanrickman4385 I'm gonna be honest, I loved season 1 too. Yes it was more goofy and hectic than the later arcs but I don't think the cinematic approach was bad at all. Now this is rant-territory, but I feel like a lot of that idea of Chainsaw Man being heavily stylized comes from speedreaders, cause it always felt Tarantino-esque to me along with the batshit insane things that were happening. Sure, some stylization here and there would've been nice for season 1, but as a whole, I didn't think Nakayama's work was bad from a creative standpoint, in fact, it's fantastic. Even so, a lot of people still did enjoy the CSM anime regardless so it's not like everyone hated the directorial approach. It still seems like a very loud minority than anything I do think the next few seasons won't lose that cinematic style at all, given Fujimoto's clearly leaning on that style. And the fact that he's a movie buff. Whoever handles the next season(s) would definitely have some degree of that animation philosophy with it. The only way it won't is for some reason the new director wants more creative freedom going around each animator/animation director, the same way Gosso's doing with JJK season 2 right now, for example.

[@thomasffrench3639]

Although, I’m not huge on the direction of CSM, I hope that he’s able to do good work elsewhere. Honestly the response that he got reminds me of people shitting on game developers who love video games being called as “people trying to ruin the industry” and it’s unfortunate that people get harassment for it

[@alfonsobiggers2452]

I loved his work on _Chainsaw Man._ The direction in that show is some of the best I had seen in a TV anime since probably _Mushoku Tensei,_ or maybe even further back to _Violet Evergarden._ _Chainsaw Man_ had such a wonderfully tactile feel to the environments and colors, shot compositions, etc. If someone else takes over, I hope they can live up to the excellent standards set by this man. Maybe not copy it, but bring something suitable for what the series deserves...

[@keredcake]

pretty shocked the japanese audience didn't fw season 1 bc it got a 97% on rotten tomatoes and pretty much everyone I talked to that watched it said it was enjoyable for them. the pacing and art direction were great in s1, idk if it's fujimoto or mappa's magic but it felt really cinematic for a shonen which is personally why I loved it sm

[@ssilentmedia]

to answer your question. it was the director's magic. he made changes to the source material to make it more cinematic, more slow and make it have less jokes/silly faces. the source material was more "colorful" and that's part of the charm the manga had it's honestly all about the tone and general style of the manga vs the anime. if there is one thing that can't be denied is the fact that he, intentionally, tried to change the tone and overall style of the work when he adapted it from the manga to anime. even he said this and that's why a lot of people disliked the anime. they disliked it because: 1. it didn't have the same tone and overall style as the manga 2. some of the things he said made him look smug and look like he knows better than anyone. people didn't want to see HIS take on chainsaw man, people wanted to see the same chainsaw man they've seen in the manga but in anime format. i'm an anime only and even though I absolutely loved the anime, I can't blame the fans of the manga for being upset about the changes (i can't forgive the death threats tho) yes. when you adapt a story from one medium to another (written to manga, manga to anime, written to anime, written to movie, anime to video game, etc etc), there are some changes that you absolutely must do because they are verry different mediums and each medium has it's own strengths and weaknesses. but the changes he made weren't essential changes that absolutely had to be done. he made them because HE wanted to make them to make his own version of chainsaw man. honestly. it all MAPPA's fault here. while he did deliver an amazing product, he wasn't the right director for this manga. man... i really feel bad for him.

[@arijitpalit2756]

​@@ssilentmediafunny thing is I own all the part 1 volumes and I adore the anime adaptation. To be honest, I like when I can see the director's take on source material if done properly. I always imagined CSM dark and gritty, I think that may be the reason why I liked it. Well all aside I do get Japanese fans sentiment even though I do not support it. Now l also think the director being smug actually was the main detriment to the anime adaptation.

[@time2play961]

Pretty sure most of the ratings were from teenagers or young adults who just like those sort of bloody stuff

[@Shinius]

@@arijitpalit2756 Did you think S1 was dark and gritty? It felt clean and sterile to me. The 3d models were too "perfect" in a way. Whereas I think people were expecting more exaggeration in the animation style. More like a Trigger show. Like, the most gritty the show is, is the 3rd ED which is also the one the fans seemingly love the most.

[@arijitpalit2756]

@@Shinius dull colour palette.

[@ZEN-kr7vg]

They went away from the manga direction thats why Japanese audience hated it because it got rid of the identity of csm but making it more cinematic, less color, muted tone etc. although the adaptation was still really good when u view it, i felt it was different than the csm i read

[@itsjustvin7630]

....looks at the manga...what color

[@kondoriano4813]

Making it more cinematic somehow makes CSM lose its identity even though the work itself is drenched by cinema influences......holy fuck y'all really say some of the stupidest shit.

[@ronel7836]

I definitely get what you mean. Before I read the manga, I thought the Japanese fans were crazy for hating the adaption, but then I read the manga, and damn it was a totally different experience. Chainsaw man feels like a trigger project, with the fujimoto art style on a book lol

[@Dr.HooWho]

​@@ronel7836I disagree on that

[@ReplacedByTheEU]

@@itsjustvin7630the colored art…

[@commentarytalk1446]

Chainsaw Man seemed an excellent anime adaptation, imo. Can't fault the direction style, to say the complete opposite.

[@ronel7836]

It's very understandable why the Japanese audience didn't like it. The manga and the anime are two different experiences. The manga is a straight up trigger project. While the anime is a more serious jjk experience

[@thomasffrench3639]

I mean just because the anime is good, doesn’t mean that the adaptation was. Look at the original FMA.

[@abysskun9518]

Boring direction + adapting only the slow parts of the show really wasn't a smart idea. Also he wasted a lot of money on 12 different endings for no reason

[@ronel7836]

@@abysskun9518 its not a boring direction at all, it just dosent fit chainsaw man. and saying that he watsed money on 12 different endings is a pretty stupid and ( i dont know what im talking about) statement

[@1kbmahan]

@@thomasffrench3639yeah it was a very underwhelming adaptation I believe Mappa was excited to do it cause it was huge at the time. Not to mention the series so far is 11 volumes and they paced it slow to create 12 episodes. Either way anime onlys don’t care unless they see pretty colors and cool music so who knows.

[@SplitSeoul]

OMG CHIBI REVIEWS! so glad this got recommended! I'm glad you are still making videos!

[@OdaNobunaga15]

Eh, I’m mixed. I liked the Chainsaw Man anime but I agree with the criticism behind it. I really wished it emulated the style and humor from the earlier chapters of the story. I wasn’t really big on the more realistic approach because I feel that it robbed the manga’s identity. Regardless, I’m curious for the future of the anime moving forward.

[@globurim]

The cinematic take was fine. I just wish they mixed it up by switching the styles on certain scenes. If it's a serious scene(like with Aki morning routine) I think the cinematic would work well. If it's an action scene, maybe traditional style would work better.

[@zap7737]

thats a dumb take

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@zap7737 why? It was a mixed bag of an adaptation

[@coneman8986]

cooking on the thumbnail

[@Mr.WestcottX]

Ikr 😏🤨😳😵‍💫

[@aypro]

It's a shame that we'll never see his vision for the next season of chainsaw man, but I hope the new director will make it even better 🙏

[@hangry3102]

I think the more realistic and serious direction was amazing, but thats not to say it's what every manga fan expected. It's understandable that Japanese fans of the manga aren't happy with aspects of the adaptation, but to completely change director and vision of the anime would be jarring now that a serious mood has already been established, especially for the rest of the story which actually gets more progressively darker and sad. I hope somehow both the Japanese audience and the west can both get what they want but that may be asking for too much.

[@yhwach1]

whag realistic and serious direction? Wasnt the Manga already like that? I dont see the difference. What were people expecting? A colorfull comdey iskekai?

[@alanrickman4385]

@@yhwach1idk how you guys didn’t noticed the difference in tone, expressions and brightness, because I noticed it right away in the first two episodes, before I even read that it was a choice.

[@hangry3102]

​@@yhwach1 The art style, colors, and overall character details like facial expressions in the anime are noticeably different from the manga, which many agree give the anime a more moody/realistic tone. For instance in the manga, the colored panels and manga covers are _very_ vibrant and colorful, and even without color the characters are always brightly lit and are lacking shading, making them stand out more as flat drawings rather than as three dimensional objects (that's not to say there is no shading whatsoever in Chainsaw man but it is not the norm). And the art style in the manga is not realistic, in fact it's very simplistic and cartoony when it can be, focusing on silhouette above all else but also sticking to the fundamentals. Many panels have varying levels of detail like when it comes to environment shots or closeups, but generally speaking the art style of Chainsaw Man is on the cartoony side with very thick lines almost like a newspaper comic style where displaying character emotion is the priority instead of imitating reality. Which is why many also agree that it lends itself to comedy better than the anime. The anime is pretty much devoid of anything you could call "exaggerated" because it tries really hard to stick to reality instead of letting the art style carry it. Instead of mimicking Fujimoto's stylized expression and exaggeration in the manga, they opted for rotoscoped body language to give the characters more human qualities like in real life. There's so much you could pick apart and analyze, but rereading chainsaw man, the differences do stand out. While the contextual story is "realistic and serious" in both the manga and anime, the manga VISUALLY doesn't paint itself as that, it has a softer more gentle style similar to FoolyCooly, one of Fujimoto's biggest inspirations. Rereading chainsaw man, you'll see the differences form the anime more and more, just think visually instead of story wise.

[@cursedstone7939]

​@@hangry3102 nice analysis

[@kengo7273]

Manga fans wanted to see Quentin Tarantino, but they got Sofia Coppola, just like when you felt like eating junk food, but French cuisine was served. I wonder if the people defending Ryu Nakayama bought the Blu-ray to support him.

[@comrade_railgun]

It's literally as simple as that but they still don't want to understand it and i have no fucking clue why.

[@BlazeSwigglePlayzMc]

I read both the manga and the anime and personally the anime does a way better job with the introduction to the story and world. It does make me wonder how the cinematic approach to the later arcs would of been but oh well. I just hope who ever they hire next are actually given the proper time so the animators can give us the best possible result but knowing mappa they will probably just fully animate like 5 episodes and start airing it.

[@zap7737]

the second half of the manga would have been fucking peak if Nakayama was directing it. Now we may get the Hell Paradise treatment where its just phoned in.

[@runbaa9285]

The thing is that the cinematic approach is much closer to how Fujimoto's style is overall. Fujimoto basically admitted that for the early parts of Chainsaw Man, he tried something out of his comfort in order to lure in new readers, before going with his own cinematic approach in the manga down the line. The cinematic approach for the Chainsaw Man anime actually fits like a glove for later parts where Fujimoto ditched the style of the earlier parts.

[@MiseRaen]

The director could make make an unknown series shine with his style, too bad he got tasked with adapting chainsawman that had a definite style that somehow didnt match with what he is going for. I hope that he does way better on his next project.

[@zenbers]

That guy tryna DM him like he was doing something💀

[@youtuberguy123]

I hope we get a different direction.

[@adamhercik581]

I just hope CSM S2 won't be like an ordinary anime like the haters wanted. Part 1 and especially the second half is more serious than part 2, so Nakayama's directing style was completely on point. I feel like those people hate subtlety and want everything explicitly said.

[@samflood5631]

Does that mean Chainsaw Man season 2 will have more episodes because a lot of haters felt that Chainsaw Man season 1 suffered due to the 12 episode limit.

[@adamhercik581]

@@samflood5631 Either a slightly longer Season 2 or a movie + season 2. S1 adapted 5 volumes and there are 6 left in part 1.

[@samflood5631]

@@adamhercik581 So which Chainsaw Man Arc will be adapted into a movie? My guess is either the Bomb Girl Arc or Gun Devil Arc.

[@house1406]

what s2 bro, csm are so delusional this shit was a flop and a money sink for mappa its been a year since s1 and nothing has even been announced its joever

[@samflood5631]

That’s because Mappa is finding the right time to make an announcement for Chainsaw Man season 2. If it was cancelled, then Mappa would have announced online to any anime or entertainment news websites. And the whole flop thing was in terms of dvd sales, the anime did good in terms of ratings and viewership on streaming services.

[@LoboNox]

They’ll probably announce a season 2 during jump festa next month

[@Isaac7even]

Yeah they have the super stage so something big is going to be announced

[@mariusj6004]

It's a shame, really enjoyed his directing, was unique.

[@chainsaw8507]

The only thing I find odd is that he didn't unpin the tweet announcing himself as the director for Chainsaw Man, and that he said he can't say anything when asked if he'll be doing season 2.

[@samflood5631]

I’m sure the new director for Chainsaw Man season 2 will try not to screw up like Tokyo Ghoul root A, One Punch Man season 2, Shield Hero Season 2 and Seven Deadly Sins season 3. I’m might be worried that Chainsaw Man will go down the same path like those anime I’ve just mention, but I mostly worried that it will be cancelled despite it’s positive score one Rotten Tomatoes and IMBD.

[@forrealme3405]

Mappa wont let that happen remember chainsaw man anime ip is owned by mappa and the anime was a financial success. The studio will do everything they can do to make it good @@samflood5631

[@racool911]

Considering how popular Chainsaw Man was here in the US, I find it crazy that its sales were disappointing.

[@samflood5631]

You mean the poor dvd sales in Japan? Don’t worry, that doesn’t mean Chainsaw Man is cancelled but it will take sometime for season 2 to come out. In fact, Chainsaw Man is one of the top selling manga next to Spy X Family and Jujutsu Kaisen.

[@Jvm-iq2qe]

The problem with chainsaw man season one is that the style leaned too much into the movie vibe. What I like about the manga is that it has that anime feel while having some movie aspects incorporated too. IMO the anime didn’t capture that at all. Also a lot of the humor didn’t translate well at all. Some of the scenes I laughed at or at least a chuckle to in the manga I was straight faced when seeing them in the anime. The anime has this kind of sad and gloomy tone which I felt was never present in the manga. The manga is very chill about everything. It’s like we are seeing it through denji’s perspective. Even if people are dying and stuff as long as Denji has food and a place to stay everything is fine. While in the anime it’s very gloomy when anything sad happens. Just doesn’t feel like chainsaw man imo. I didn’t like the voice actors, more specifically the casting and performances, not the voice actors themselves. I feel like they chose very normal sounding voice and gave them the wrong direction too. Denji is kind of unhinged in the manga but he sounds incredibly normal in the anime. The dub did the voices better overall imo tho. I hated the anime but after some while I started to appreciate it as its own thing and started to actually like it. But as an adaptation of the manga I think it failed to deliver in many aspects and I think the Japanese fans are justified in thinking so.

[@yum8666]

Its crazy that I have the complete opposite opinion to every point you made.

[@Jvm-iq2qe]

@@yum8666 that is pretty crazy. Maybe we were made for each other.😳

[@yum8666]

@@Jvm-iq2qe opposites do attract 😳

[@MatthewCJoy]

I completely disagree with every point. I especially disagree with the VA bit, Kobenis Japanese VA is EXACTLY how Kobeni should sound to the fucking T. And weird how you say the manga is chill and how Denjis attitude towards shit is chill but somehow have a problem with his VA sounding chill most of the time.

[@Jvm-iq2qe]

@@MatthewCJoy he sounds too normal is what I said and that the tone of the anime is too sad and gloomy when in the manga it’s chill. Also obviously some of the voice actors are good, just most I didn’t vibe with. I loved most of the dub ones tho.

[@nikolastamatov7255]

The "something new" is a proper sleep scedule

[@neondarknessor]

Good riddance. He nearly ruined it with that first season. The manga deserved better.

[@re_striker3431]

Lol, he didn't ruin anything. Csm anime>manga

[@matth1641]

@@re_striker3431 You're right dude, the anime is 100% better. I love the manga, but the anime was clearly better.

[@throughmemories]

@@re_striker3431 delusional

[@infamouskent7243]

I love the different direction he took. The series just felt different.

[@redmangoose182]

Good. MAPPA doesn’t deserve him. You go out of your way to make the animation cinematic and include 10-12 different EDs and brain dead fans show 0 appreciation by shitting on it. Its like people have forgotten how bad adaptations TRULY are (Tokyo Ghoul, Seven Deadly Sins). I don’t fault anyone leaving MAPPA and taking the big franchises with them tbh. Maybe we need to see JJK and Chainsaw Man in the hands of lesser studios for these entitled fans to see what disappointment truly is.

[@thomasffrench3639]

They put effort into Seven Deadly Sins, so they deserve praise. It doesn’t matter if you didn’t like it

[@vento5558]

Whose the artist of that Power thumbnail?

[@Mr.WestcottX]

Ikr 😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏

[@ShadowFox10587O]

I really liked the chainsaw man adaptation sad to see him go

[@spritvio639]

Power is lookin nice in the thumbnail. Sauce?

[@jonasw3945]

He isn't moving to a different company, he is talking about MAPPA and what he is talking about is something that started in MAPPA a year ago which is what he says in the tweet. Mappa has been attempting to better the situation of animators through gradual initiatives, like raising salaries, hiring more full time animators, having programs to teach new generations etc and this response from Ryu seems to be as a reaction to all the outrage have animator recently. As far as is known, he IS a MAPPA employee, MAPPA wouldn't give him the director position if he wasn't especially since CSM was a 100% full MAPPA production and generally in this case the director is part of the production company

[@thexpatsgaming8609]

I was saying like this doesn’t confirm anything like moving away from Mappa. Besides he is a freelancer which he not tied down to Mappa and can do other ventures. Doesn’t mean he isn’t working on CSM anymore

[@vincentflannigan2727]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I hope they redo season 1

[@spiderdude2099]

Bro, MAPPA had it all. They were set for life. They just had to hunker down with the IPs they had and just….make them. But some corporate asshat just seemed to push CONSTANT acquisition and expansion. It’s not sustainable. And the entire studio is on the brink of implosion now. I’m as sad for the overworked employees as I am for the IPs that could be left high and dry for years if the studio shuts down.

[@thexpatsgaming8609]

ok

[@catlike9444]

The corporate asshat would be Manabu Otsuka

[@femto9886]

I wish Chainsaw man was animated like JJK. Idk why they went with a CGI-heavy and realistic look to it when its chainsaw man lmfao

[@kondoriano4813]

JJK also relied on a lot of CGI and used many realistic shots lmfao holy fuck y'all naysayers are brain dead

[@re_striker3431]

Because it's not realistic to 2D animate a moving chainsaw all the time.

[@femto9886]

@@re_striker3431 u think there’s only cgi in those moments? The entire anime is filled with it. Every fight scene. And I promise u they could definitely make a moving chainsaw look good without cgi lmfao

[@kondoriano4813]

@@femto9886 Then you go animate a 2D chainsaw since you know so much 😂😂

[@femto9886]

@@kondoriano4813 it’s crazy how stupid this comment is. I think I know how to animate an entire anime by myself because I prefer no cgi? Mappa defenders are genuinely brainless

[@mr.protagonist5639]

Heres the thing, i understand where the japanese fans are coming from. Chainsawman has a very hard to pin down tone that is probably partially the reason it took off so well. Going the serious and gritty route CAN work well like with season one but it also changes the way the story comes across. That being said its kinda a bad idea to try and pivot at this stage, and its not like the director didn't do a fantastic job at the direction he chose.

[@CrucibleOfHate]

Uh...? Wtf are you on about?

[@shadowwhowalk]

​@@CrucibleOfHateQuote from the director: _When I was in junior high school, "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" was broadcast late at night, and anime boomed. However, there is a certain "type" of TV anime. The so-called Akiba-kei, moe, and other fixed concepts in subcultures, such as girls having green or pink hair, are examples of this. However, animation itself is not an expressive technique that can only be achieved by relying on such things. I always wanted to make something that could be seen by adults, something that would be powerful enough to withstand the viewpoint of appreciation of the work. When it came time to make an animated version of "Chainsaw Man," I looked for links to what I wanted to do, and since I myself love movies and Mr. Fujimoto also loves movies, I thought it would be interesting to incorporate the essence of the realistic and cinematic. Rather than a personal selfishness, I was convinced that this would benefit the work._

[@CrucibleOfHate]

@shadowwhowalk OP said "going the serious and gritty route." The director introduced a significant amount of cinematographic reference, and whether or not that's good or bad is irrelevant to my point, which is that the anime is not more serious or gritty than the manga. The tone of the story was not changed.

[@lethalnoize6485]

with them making a movie before season 2 this might work out. We can really see how the director can do with a full length movie/ a bit of a bigger budget (maybe) . It can show us what we can expect for season 2. Sad the old directors gone but honestly I’m just hyped for more chainsaw man. Everyone’s being way to critical about the art style imo can’t be help tho I guess haha

[@dddrafteed]

thumbnail was crazy

[@SpinningTurtle66]

It’s a real shame, I think the direction of chainsaw man is pretty much perfect

[@Terrox_]

That thumbnail 😳

[@bebopknux5857]

Welp, it is what it is. When globally we don't matter and the home country doesn't like it. This was the best we could ask for. Anyone who leaves mappa could possibly find any better working place. My only problem is when chainsaw man season 2 comes out is it gonna turn out like OP season 2? the staff cared for the product but the fans and well the animation at times could not satiate the One punch fandom.

[@localdude2979]

Man the director LOVES Power, have you seen his "fanart" of Power??? its as official as it can get!! amazingly skilled, looking forward season 2, fuck the haters, the director IS A GOAT lesgooooooooooo!!

[@4nalMac]

A man of refined taste, It's a shame to see him go. I personally really enjoyed his direction and completely attribute it to the fact he loves power.

[@localdude2979]

yeah the cinematic masterpiece and the endings were incredibly polished and unique, truly a wolf among pups@@4nalMac

[@hyjjjkyikk3158]

@@4nalMac if only csm could be 24 ep we could get the spoiler darkness devil part

[@自演乙-v3q]

どうやら海外と日本では放送内容が大きく異なるみたいですね…

[@markomaksimovic7678]

Honestly, good for him. I'm sad about CSM but I'm kind of over Mappa right now.

[@zap7737]

i think everyone is over Mappa at this point lol. They got too high on themselves. They would just pick up every show available and then only give the most popular one the attention it deserves, aka AOT. Thats why we got such a phoned in adaptation of Hells Paradise.

[@kurasakikenji]

I mean his work on Jujutsu Kaisen was top notch and i know him from Tatsuya Yoshihara and i heard both of them are like buddies (correct me if im wrong) his work on directing is really great!! Its sad to see this..

[@Footsoldier_T]

If you’re wondering about the thumbnail sauce, it’s Power drawn by Mitsurugi Sugar.

[@Abyss3223]

God I hope S2 will be good as S1

[@jackandjellify]

Man 😔

[@AndréVilaFranca]

I liked the direction of season 1, my only complain is that I wish it had more color. Sad to see him go. I hope all the best for the series.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Honestly they should try to get shows like these that requires the attention and work it does to be two even maybe three weeks per episode. Considering the amount of different shows that come out each season I think a lot of us wouldn't mind having that additional week of breathing room too lol.

[@zap7737]

never gonna happen

[@thatguysho227]

No way people are willing to wait 2 weeks for an episode. They already complain that episodes each week are too short as is.

[@gassnake4372]

My hype for chainsaw man went down. Oh man, it would've amazing to see the next arcs be cinematic.

[@ravend5595]

I went to the art exhibition for chainsaw man in osaka last month , so I dont believe there narrative that “japan hates chainsaw-man” it seemed pretty popular

[@thomasffrench3639]

The manga is hugely popular. The anime has a mixed reputation.

[@edison21006]

lol, if Japanese hate CSM, CSM won't be able to get anime

[@soupcan_8042]

Ikr, But​ Mappa​ ceo​ wants​ more​ blurays​ sale.

[@mjvigor1788]

Will chainsaw man ever get season 2? 😢

[@sammalla5238]

an announcement is coming up on dec 17 regarding CSM but nothing concrete on a season 2 news as of yet

[@Dr.HooWho]

They will probably make it a movie

[@samflood5631]

Let’s hope season 2 will come out some time in mid 2024 or early 2025

[@kyuremthefrozen8539]

is chainsaw man season 2 not going to happen?

[@botondnyitrai3128]

I am just happy, that Mappa is getting punch after punch. This will be a good lesson for them and a good wake-up call for other studios to respect their animators and compensate them for their work. I can only imagine how many good animes they could create when they actually work from love and not bcs they are forced to(given ample time of course).

[@catlike9444]

Unfortunately it's a lesson they will never learn so long as Manabu is in power. He will quite literally sacrifice every single veteran animator just to have both ufotable and kyoani quality and have all the popular shounen titles or more. He thinks it's a race.

[@botondnyitrai3128]

@@catlike9444 well, when sales will start to drop, maybe he will realise

[@catlike9444]

@botondnyitrai3128 but that's the sad reality. Sales won't drop because of one factor. Blind hype. Hype will unfortunately carry.

[@botondnyitrai3128]

@@catlike9444 hype will inevitably die down as the quality drops. Seven deadly sins was hyped too. Bad adaptation happened, died in a few episodes.

[@catlike9444]

@@botondnyitrai3128 true

[@dj__alien]

Sounds like animators and people who've worked for Mappa are leaving now. Makes me a little bit worried for their future and current projects (Chainsaw Man, Jujutsu Kaisen, One Punch Man). Hopefully the company either treats their animators right or hand their projects off to other animation studios like UFOTable, BONES, or MadHouse.

[@zenbers]

welp, so much for #THANKYOUMAPPA

[@zap7737]

its fine, other studios will pick them up if it came to that and probably do a better job, cause itll be all theyre working on, so itll get full attention. instead of mappa going for quantity of shows, over quality.

[@FlutterSwag]

What a shame, CSM season 1 stood out because it was so different in storytelling and emotional I hope his new gig brings him success Also League of Legends... maybe he can help with Arcane S2???

[@herospeedy3174]

First the jjk director leaves after a great 1st season now the chainsawman director... shit get these shows out of mappa production hell

[@juanhaines7295]

Hopefully they keep their word on that tweet.

[@badpiggy4177]

It doesn't matter who does s2 now Manga readers are still going to be hypercritical and hate it anyway ffs, I really hate how people say that the anime is different from the manga. How the heck is it different ? I've read the manga twice and it's literally as dark, gritty and grounded like what the anime was. All these complaints about colour don't feel right to me at all. Almost every anime on earth has an op and ed that's more colourful than the actual show. Why is Chainsawman suddenly at fault for not being different in that regard ? And besides, the manga is far more grounded than people give it credit for. The anime focussed on that and also on how cinematic the manga is in general.

[@thomasffrench3639]

It is clearly different. Nakayama literally said he would change it.

[@badpiggy4177]

@@thomasffrench3639 He said he wanted to lean hard into the cinematic aspect because Fujimoto's work ( including CSM ) feels so cinematic in manga form y'all are literally just putting words in his mouth at this point.

[@zSion]

i mean the manga isn't good either

[@summ44]

Good now need yoshihara to direct it's sequel or someone other like gosso who can give full creative freedom of its staff

[@AdroSlice]

I'm happy for him and wish him well on his new ventures.

[@AppStateBuffaloBillsWaifu]

I personally enjoyed tf out of Chainsaw Man, and sadly can’t really ask for another season because of the current situation at MAPPA. Unless another studio can make it happen on a great scale (NOT the One Punch Man treatment). Space Dandy and Kill La Kill were straight up gems when they came out 10 years ago. I’d say the man’s got talent and experience, but it may have been that Chainsaw Man was a different animal for him and that’s what had the Japanese audience so nitpicky

[@DreYeon]

Anyone know the artist that did the thumbnail? Power ain't having that much melons.

[@TheRealJohnux]

I think he did a great job, but he did somewhat antagonize the JP Community and it had Shown that his Vision of how CSM should be animated Was rejected. Sad to see him go, but it's maybe for the better depending how it will be going forward.

[@qwerykk1410]

Is the 2nd season of chainsaw confirmed?

[@lethalnoize6485]

No but the teaser for the movie just dropped 👌🏾

[@danwoods8195]

Good for him-- chainsaw man season 1 super underrated

[@nehemiahsalters1350]

Its so dumb the author of chainsaw man loves movies. He adapted chainsaw man in a way that reflects that. People can have their opinions but I can't help but see the reception as nonsense.

[@chago8013]

i personally loved chainsaw man season 1 especially compared to jjk season 1 but hopefully these anime’s get the time and consideration they deserve

[@catlike9444]

Considering Manabu greed most likely won't

[@DonQuixoteDeLaManchaLC]

Don't wanna be that guy but. Thumbnail sauce?

[@caoticrivel]

frrrr im also trynna know

[@ramoncastro4737]

Damn even the chainsaw man director didn't want a part of studio MAPPA. 😲 now chainsaw man season 2 will really be TBD

[@goby1764]

Chainsaw season 1 is a cinematic experience unlike any other anime before it. I truly truly loved the style and I hope they at least emulate it for the next season

[@VendettaProduction01]

But when is the official western release of chainsaw man?

[@kirdish3689]

I just don’t get it tho…….as an American manga reader…..the director did fucking great direction in the anime but sadly more content isn’t being produced

[@doodlegame8704]

Its wild how CSM basically looked like what people wanted S2 of JJK to look like, dark and gritty with a lot of detail on the characters, yet people still complained and said it wasn’t fun and goofy enough. Even though people seem to hate the simplified designs and brighter colors of S2 of JJK. MAKE UP YOUR MIND PEOPLE, THESE SHOWS HAVE SIMILARLY DARK TONES! Csm is just a little crazier.

[@funaccount7665]

You know what other series managed to be dark and have have a unique style with color and tone while not sacrificing it's core identity dorohedoro and madoka magica and chainsaw man is way more like the former.

[@bearshark5941]

Its tragic. Its also entirely Mappa's fault and Japanese animators deserve better.

[@_ZeroMaximum_]

MAPPA is slowly making its own coffin, one nail at a time.

[@Mr.WestcottX]

For real. Each week. Sadly

[@zap7737]

@@LucasBR702 the fuck are you on about

[@zap7737]

@@Xiccy845 Vinland made no money

[@jacobschwantz9815]

Why didn't japan like csm, im confused?

[@BoB-th8wm]

"Leaving" or being fired?

[@satsujinjiken3039]

Hoping CSM season 2 got the 7deadly sins animation with all of the hate on season 1 when its for me is a perfect adaptation with a gold tier animation

[@mozax8118]

Chainsaw man S1 director: I got bullied out of my own job. They were not a fan of my work. George Lucas: You and I are not so different.

[@RpgBlasterRpg]

Season 2 pls

[@KurtStaInes]

this is what happen to the animators of GAINAX and then they set up a studio called studio TRIGGER . Good luck for his future endeavors!

[@rayhanmiah231]

Yessir!!

[@j.s.ospina9861]

The history repeats itself

[@tabbyjeannie.]

Director is going leave mappa he will get a fresh start

[@cineglasses]

I don't remember power looking like that in the manga GODDAMN

[@catlike9444]

Honestly after everything that's happening its for the best.

[@RAMSIL882]

I liked that he had his own creative vision. I do think he will do well in producing original series. The problem he had was that he invested too much on the originality that he disregarded/didn't read manga well. Some parts are misinterpreted or comletely left out and story didn't quite make sense. Maybe his style didn't match tatsuki. With different author or original series, madybe he can make great shows. Good luck to him 🤞 too bad he couldn't direct rose arc, it would've suited him much better.

[@ultraegovegeta8213]

Nooooo! It’s not going to be the same!!! 😢

[@fitfolu8748]

Let’s fucking goooo