2020 250 Two Stroke Shootout - Dirt Bike Magazine

[@brendantremmel479]

Short Answer: They’re all winners. Because every manufacturer in this shootout still has the guts to make a 2 stroke.

[@StabEDealin]

Yeah man, I've got a '92 KX250 and that thing still rips. Can't imagine how sweet they'd be if they kept it up. I'm gonna get that YZ250X for next bike, gotta support! ✊Braap!

[@Aglow37]

Dan Bates Yea man old kawis are nasty I’ve been on a 04yz250 for a while now and I recently got a blown up 05kx250, can’t wait to hear her scream

[@vmontijo]

Well said Brendan!

[@MrFROGY1313]

fantic is coming back with updated cross enduro model on yz base. beta is coming with a 300cc model too

[@mitchringel4270]

If you kill a 2 stroke it’s like a video game you’re a high level at, some disposable cash later and you’re back on the track. You blow a valve or seize the motor on a 4 stroke though... might as well look for a used bike with the same engine and get the extra parts to boot.

[@jlvfarm9241]

Suzuki Honda kawasaki bring back the 2 strokes the market damand is there

[@shonrob1620]

Me and my sons Running a 93 KX125 99 KX60 and 97 CR250 long live the 2 stroke

[@percussion44]

KTM sold 280,000 motorcycles in 2019, Yamaha sold over 5,000,000. Assuming Honda say, builds a 2 stroke, and manages to steal some of KTM/Husky/Beta sales. It's also stealing sales from it's own 4 stroke line of bikes. You have to go in front of the product dev boys and explain how gaining 20-30 thousand sales of 2 strokes a year at a profit margin of 1,000 bucks per bike, you need to sell for 5 years to make back the tooling cost (100, 000, 000$) of production. In 5 years the EPA or eurozone could well declare 2 strokes banned for environmental reasons. Keep in mind such enviro reasons are BS, one transoceanic container ship emits more pollution in a year than the worlds entire 2 stroke fleet, you don't see government calls for ending international trade or going back to Clipper ships. I digress. The point is Yamaha sells YZ250's at a good profit as a legacy product. No R&D costs, tooling paid off etc. Sales are to Yamaha fan boys and to those who want a smoker but don't want KTM's ridiculous prices. In conclusion such a project entails risk, big capital outlay etc for a -potential- paltry few million in profits. These companies look at billion dollar bottom lines. They could probably make a few million selling a line of BOLD NEW GRAPHICS stickers. Cheers

[@StabEDealin]

@Saldetor Vulcano Yeah buddy! '92 KX250 here and she rips! Hard to imagine that some bikes are faster lol

[@timmooney6961]

Suzuki get looked down on basically c they stopped making big 2 strokes, I currently have an rm85l and I love it, but Suzuki have nothing for bigger riders, i will probably change to a Yamaha or ktm one day but I would buy another Suzuki if they had more 2 stokes.

[@thezoms9961]

Kawis biggest production 2t is there 85 Lotta people say they make 100's still but I haven't found one

[@ScottNoFwens]

Thank you for just letting us hear that magnificent sound throughout the whole video rather than drowning it all out with music.

[@johnthomas6614]

Just call me Old school love 2 strokes. the sound / feeling / smell. mixing gas & kickin ass 🏁 Wick On ✊ 2 Strokes

[@slinger1237]

A 2 stroke only feels right when you have to kickstart it

[@Sleepy.Time.]

Yamaha needs to do another run of yellow and black Yz's

[@teddyf9438]

Yamaha needs to do another run of rnd on the yz’s

[@Sleepy.Time.]

@@teddyf9438 i think Yamaha has done a good job keeping the price down and new bells and whistles that maybe cut a half second off our lap is not really worth seeing the Yz's jump up to KTM price levels

[@teddyf9438]

Sleepy .Time honestly i think neither company has done a good job keeping the price down, but yea to me, I just chose what I could get a good deal on- happened to be a ktm. I think yz’s are still badass, just wish they made them newer!

[@kadend2669]

Sleepy .Time exactly. The fact yamaha still makes a big bore 2 stroke is awesome. And the prices are even better. And yes they aren’t technically as good, but if you arent an amazing rider, this will mean nothing to you

[@Aglow37]

Teddy F all imma say ab my 04 yz250 is she’s reliable 😂 first kick bike with atleast 30hrs on the piston🤣

[@Tibingi84]

F-I-N-A-L-L-Y! I think you're the first magazine to do this shootout... much appreciation to you guys!

[@alexandrakingi8502]

Yup! Been waiting for this.

[@robertococcia9815]

2stroke its true essence of the motocross

[@LilLefty27]

Everyone needs a 2 stroke in their life

[@joshsmith9058]

I own a 4 stroke and love it but I will get a 2 again soon

[@LilLefty27]

Josh Smith come back to the bright side of the force 😂

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I don't know when the covid commies are going to end our way of life, have not ridden in 17 years, and picking up a YZ250 2-stroke tomorrow. I got lucky to find one, (5hr used 2019). No dealership has one.

[@joshsmith9058]

@@LilLefty27 i agree but I am 40 now and the FE 501 is very smooth and easy to ride. But we all know there is nothing like the ting ting of a 2 stroke.

[@brendantremmel479]

EarthSurferUSA That’s sick! Good to support Yamaha for being the only manufacturer from the Big 4 to keep making full sized ring dingers to this day!

[@ktmripper849]

Music to my ears!!! 2 stroke for life

[@firebladex8586]

I honesly think electrics are going to take over now that battery tech such as Lithium sulfur, solid state etc eliminate the basically only drawback.

[@ericmcclellan4660]

I Grew up 1977 XR75, Then it got Good 1978 Yz125 monoshock, Then 1980 CR250 while Living In Oregon, Had Sand Dunes in Florence, Casada Mountains and Coastal MTN's, ...Now I Ride a KLR650 All Over Gravel and Back roads in Pennsylvania at 55yrs...I've Redline the KLR WFO on Gravel Many of times......

[@wipperwil]

Yay to Yamaha for sticking in there. Going to pick up either a yz125 to turn in to a woods weapon or a Husky TE200. Shame to Honda, Kawasaki, and Suzuki for dropping 2-strokes.

[@cjpasion4549]

I miss when kx and cr were in the 2 stroke game but now I’m just a 2 stroke fan of any manufacture that makes it

[@DGfilms1996]

do a shootout of all the final year japanese 250 two strokes including the ktm, 07/08 that would be awesome

[@Shepmx88]

They have back in 2007

[@chris092183]

The final year Japanese bikes (suzuki, honda, kawi) against the new tm, ktm, husky, gasgas and yz

[@slimchancejw]

Ktm is made in China and india

[@Madtigertv]

Well the YZ's basically the same bike

[@timmyrichmond2977]

Please do thisssssss

[@Mile.HighMoto]

*I* *traded* *in* *my* *2019* *crf* *450* *for* a *2020* *Husky* *Tc250* And I’m in love

[@uexzia4294]

Great bike aye just got my 2020 2 weeks ago

[@jcolt3882]

What's better at handling?

[@ccsmooth55]

The sound of a YZ250 is absolutely unmistakable. Had a 2002 YZ250 I bought brand new in 2003. Its was a dream to ride and race. It had absolutely no weaknesses.

[@flowersthewizard9336]

2005 yz125 with a 144 kit on it was my beauty

[@davidhubbert7586]

My 1st bike , 1979 yz250 . Yellow and black. Too old to ride now but the sound and smell still gets the old heart pumping!

[@paulmarshall8774]

That was my first bike to back in 88👍, now on a 19 Tc250 I’m a big Honda fan but no new 2st’s😔

[@francoforcucci4198]

Man i hope they don't stop making these.. we all need a 2 stroke in our life

[@seb250cr]

I have the subtitles on for the video. When they kick start the bikes, the subtitle say :" Thank you". I couldn't agree more.

[@ConnerBonner1]

I wish Honda can make a goddamn two stroke

[@dominickjohnston5881]

Honda will never make another 2 stroke they hated their smokers once they started production on the 450

[@andrewb232]

my cr250 has a lectron,boysen rad valve,pro circuit pipe and a phathead and it smokes every other 2 stroke and 450 i have ever raced im sure it would smoke the 2020 450 line up to

[@andrewb232]

so i bet if honda made 2 strokes today with the new 4 stroke technology they would easily blow away any 4 stroke

[@dominickjohnston5881]

andrew b KTM/Husky and TM and Beta have already done that bro. F.I ams O.I mixed with counter balancing. The new ktm 300’s have the torque and power of a 4 stroke but the Powerband of a 2 stroke... crazy how good their bikes are

[@dominickjohnston5881]

andrew b doubt it... my yz250 is built to the teeth. Fmf gnarly, Fmf turbinecore Q, boyenson Dual stage Carbon reeds, porting, timing advanced 2 degree, perfectly jetted Kehin carb, 100 octane, and milled head, and it can’t hang with the 450’s in the topend. Bike tops out at 80mph but that’s pushing it. These 450’s are making like 60hp stock...

[@elliottframe21]

im a yz person but god do i love those tms hand built in italy there just all round lovely looking bikes

[@noneofyourbusiness5433]

I’m turning 44 this year so I grew up riding 2 bangers, but it warms my heart to know the young guys still love them too.

[@johnnyvivic8730]

Heck yeah, 4-strokes can't beat the thrill of a 2-stroke. 4-strokes do everything better than 2-strokes, _except_ for how well they'll put a smile on your face. That's what matters for weekend warriors like me.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Electric start on a 250 2-stroke? We have gotten soft.

[@codenamenoob4973]

Electric start can be the difference between a race won or a race lost as a second here or there due to a mistake on the track could easily cost you the race if the bike doesn't kickstart into life

[@ShadeTreeKennyT]

EarthSurferUSA totally agree. Nothin like gettin on that kicker, snappin yer leg and hearin that WUM, bah,bum, bah,bum, bah,bum when it fires to life.

[@johnnyvivic8730]

@@codenamenoob4973 Although I kind of still prefer a kickstart for the feel, you're right. I've stalled my bike during a race many times before, and it usually happens as I'm slamming on the brakes right before I enter a corner. An electric start would make things a million times easier. Stopping and kicking your bike in the middle of the race - even if it starts up immediately - is hugely problematic, mainly because you have to stand up and adjust your position so much, and by the time you get it started you've already screwed up your entry into the next obstacle.

[@fkhan577]

What do you expect after 20+ years of 4s ..

[@ShadeTreeKennyT]

@Josh Gee apparently you've never kicked over a big bore such as an RM465 or CR500. 🙄😏

[@LEANDROYZ98]

YZ 250 MY DREAM.

[@paulbarnett2083]

Absolutely love you guys are still doing the two stroke shootout Two Strokes rule

[@montycrain5783]

BRC says they’re making a 500 conversion for the 1998- to current YZ-250s similar to their KTM/Husky. Finally a YZM-500 in the pipeline.

[@raoulduke3770]

To this day the best overall motorcycle I ever owned was probably my 1990 CR250. Pro Circuit pipe and a light port job; motor was perfect in every way

[@jakobcrain350]

I’m going to buy a 250 2 stroke this yesr

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Good luck finding the one you want, (the commie attack on our free market is worse than I thought). I wanted new, but got lucking finding a slightly used YZ250. Picking it up tomorrow. Riding gear is getting hard to find too.

[@Davido50]

Me too! Husqvarna all the way.

[@patcalandrella]

I barely got ahold of a 2021 yz250, when I walked on dealer in january they had one still in the crate, I bought it instantly, going as fast as they can make them!

[@markbarrett9882]

Turned 50 & bought a 2020 Husky TC125 - Serious fun! Like a Rocket !! It is great to rip a 2 stroke again,, wow amazing engineering on this Husky-

[@alexevans7916]

Fifty years ago I bought Dirt Bike Magazine and then a Husky 250 mxer before long travel suspension.Great to see both still top of the game.

[@vmontijo]

Its due time for the Supercross rules to allow 2-strokes to be 2/3 the cc's of the 4-strokes... this means a 300cc 2-stroke racing against 450cc strokers, and ~150cc 2-strokes vs 250cc strokers... the 2:1 cc advantage is unfair. When I was younger back in the 70's/80's, there was NO cc advantage given to 4-strokes... if your bike was a 500cc, you raced against other 500cc bikes no matter how many times it fired per revolution... 4-stroke technology has advanced far enough that this 2:1 rule is not fair, as you can tell by the lack of 2-strokes on the grid... lets mix it up!

[@dunfielder]

They should just get rid of the stupid rules they came up with years ago that killed the 2 stroke. With a skilled rider I'd bet a 450 2stroke eats a 450 4stroke

[@kickstartkrew9924]

@@dunfielder no matter what you do to a two-stroke a 450 4-stroke will always crush it on the track. There's no way to get 60+ horsepower out of a smoker and yet have it be measured and as controllable for a full race. Now as for equal displacement in the smaller 250 engines you might have something there. But as for the fastest way to get around a track, until electric bikes receive further development, a 450 four-stroke is still the king.

[@jeredalmeida1880]

@@kickstartkrew9924 It's "The King" because they don't make 2 strokes in 450. If the 2T hadn't been pushed out of Supercross, they'd be putting more resources into 2stroke R&D and properly tuning their suspensions and gearing like they've been doing with 4strokes as of late.

[@kickstartkrew9924]

@@jeredalmeida1880 JS7: "if you're on a 4 stroke and you get passed by a 2 stroke you should just quit"

[@jeredalmeida1880]

@@kickstartkrew9924 Then stop racing against YZ 85s on your 450

[@harrykourm2462]

that yamaha scream is so nice

[@Tater4200]

i will always...ALWAYS love my 2 strokes. 4 strokes have a place in my heart. but 2 strokes have my soul

[@2stroketyson79]

4 strokes have a place in a motorcycle or a car not a dirt bike for me! if its not a 2T dirt bike its just a motorcycle with dirt tires!

[@ghoulredeyedemon2024]

That Husky TC250 Sounds Crispy Ranks the Top this Year.

[@hudsonriley2094]

I’m 55 years old now with alot of health trouble and dirt bikes were a huge part of my life. I never missed a second when not working to throw a leg over my Kawasaki stable. I had a kx 420 a kdx420 and a kx 125. I am currently restoring a 2008 kx 250. I will never understand why the two stroke was dropped. I bought the first year kx450f it was a 4 speed and a brute. But who wants to spend a thousand bucks three or more times a year, and 10 hrs in labor. The two strokes are good for hundred rides if maintenance is done and quality oil is used. And a top end is about 150 and 45 minutes Laber. They can have all the thumpers. And by the way Yamaha should not be in the shoot out. They were the one that started the 4 stroke debacle.

[@brewskibrew986]

Hearing all them 2 strokes tearing up the track is music to my ears 🤤

[@andrewstahl6916]

2 stroke MX market might be declining slowly, but I want the 2 stroke ATV market to come back, we need a new banshee!

[@brianmorrison9066]

Comparing the 2006 yz250 against the new line up, I see

[@ramcycle7]

😂😂😂

[@richardfilippi8977]

Yamaha IS a better than more more years

[@kx501]

Iv'e ridden all those bikes and the TM followed by the YZ are the pick of the bunch, they out handled the other 2 , much better suspension and torquier motors.

[@tmracing7626]

TM racing💪💪

[@chrisvids1820]

Those 4 guys look like they're having so much fun out there

[@ThesisHimselfOfficial]

Came here for the sound of my childhood.

[@andreasstefanou5898]

I would go with th Yz250 Easier to ride More fun Better suspension and more reliable... I have to admit though that TM is a beauty. TM would be my second choice

[@LikeAPetrol]

The same thoughts.

[@andreasstefanou5898]

@@LikeAPetrol for me YZ250 is the gold standard. The fact that is easy to ride is very important. Besides that it give you so much confidence, its much better when the track is not perfect. More forgiving and more safe. When i feel confident and safe(as safe as i can be with motocross 😝) i can go faster

[@LikeAPetrol]

@@andreasstefanou5898 Absolutely. My KTM 250SX'2014 scares me sometimes.

[@andreasstefanou5898]

@@LikeAPetrol my best mate have a tm 300 2 stroke. That bike is so much powerful but the same time soooo easy to ride Very predictable.... Like a 4 stroke. I would also go with TM any day of the week. Power is nothing without control.... Linear power is a key to go fast

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I am 56 years old and have not ridden in 17 years. Picking up a very slightly used 2019 YZ250 tomorrow, (can't find a new one in any year, no dealer has them). I don't think everything I love about the USA is going to last much longer. I am going to live my USA while I still can.

[@dosstheboss100]

What oil and mixture are they running didn't see 1 puff of smoke?

[@yeti8it396]

Been a fan of Dirtbike Magazine from the early 80s .

[@jenslaursen1]

Great test guys! Could you elaborate on why the tm finished last? Motor suspension? Just that it is heavy and have a weird feel?

[@andreasstefanou5898]

I had the opportunity to ride TM 125 and TM 300 2 stroke and 300 4 stroke. I can asure you that TM are AMAZING. Especially the 2 strokes. I liked them much better than KTM's. I have to admit that i am a YAMAHA guy but i have to admit that i was really close to sell my YZ for a TM. I haven't ridden the 250 but i am pretty sure that it will awesome too

[@GoProBlizzard]

Just because they don’t pay them.

[@dakotanewman4443]

@@GoProBlizzard Ecactly what I was going to say. The smaller company's have less money to dish out.

[@jcsquared1111]

Just turned 40 and decided to ride again used to ride a lot yz 80 then 125 for a bit. Put depo on new yz125 but worried I shpuld have gotten the 250 as I am a but over weight now at 220lb. Intend on shedding down to 190. Any thoughts ? And please be kind as im just an oldan trying to get back into shape and miss ridong big time

[@motocrosspk]

Love and respect all the way from Pakistan

[@Dierk200185]

I'm a simple guy...I see two stroke MX bikes -> *click* Cool showing the deffertent charateristics, none of them is not good or has issues, every bike seems to be refined in its way. And the sound of a 250 two stroke is just wonderful 💖 Bummer that Suzuki gave up the RM 125/250 I think the last gens, K6/K7/K8 RM 250s were really solid bikes everyone would like to have around.

[@WICKEDMS]

AMA sold out to the top 4-stroke manufactures, like the Rock Sold out to Hollywood.

[@caydenthompson126]

Facts lol

[@jdirt1982]

I'd go YZ

[@paahtopro3950]

Id go tm if i had the money

[@jaybee1892]

That intro with the launch was dope!

[@craigchambers6830]

I'd love to see Honda bring back the cr 2 strokes 💙💯

[@sxbfanz9734]

Ok, what is the best type of it that has been ruined by a few? 250 cc and what is its price? What is the type of desert bears / follow you from Saudi Arabia🇸🇦😊

[@chrisbatstone9742]

About time guys sx motocross should be souly 2 strokes so much pure action fun excitement sound feel everything

[@stevefowler2112]

Haven't ridden a dirt bike in anger since I was kid (AMA 125cc Motocross Expert License and then 250cc/350cc Road Race Experts license) in the mid 70's...who/what is TM? p.s. I beat Jeff Ward twice the only two times we ever raced.

[@mofekka]

great video. Love the sound these bikes make. I have the 2021 KTM 300 xc-w and it is an amazing bike. Best purchase I ever made

[@beavishawk1]

84 IT 200 was my last dirt bike.. It rolled along pretty well.. Nothin like a hot 2cycle. If you can ride a good 2 cycle, then 4sroke is cake... Like gettin cruise control for the first time.

[@donniebaker5984]

You have never motocrossed a four stroke as they are no piece a cake..front end always wants to push and wash out ..with two stroke the handle bars are floating and you steer with the throttle ...a four stroke will wear your ass down in a hurry ..I raced bought for over 20 years

[@supaxr]

Pressed Like before watching cause everyone knows 250s are sickkkk

[@shoanning]

I'm absolutely crazy about 2 stroke bikes. The powerban sends you to 7th heaven

[@2stroketyson79]

climbing the stairway!

[@YZ250W1]

Still riding my 07 YZ250 and loving it.

[@cupslinga]

Show up to any track and all the four strokers stop to listen 😆✌️

[@taylormccallum]

Yamaha needs to put the yz250 motor in the yz250f frame and put e start on the yz250x

[@tylertrowell5859]

Please, Please do an 85 2 stroke shootout

[@stephenmitchum5864]

This comparison brought to light a Industry secret, that the media, manufacturers and dealers do not like the public to know. There is very little meaningful differences between bikes of two decades ago and today. The fact is if you could uncrate a new 1997 YZ 250 it would run comparable lap times with any of these bike’s . As a matter of a fact with some mods it would be a better bike the the current YX 250 because the steel frame was superior to the current aluminum frame. I was a dealer during the marketing ploy of 4 strokes and aluminum frames and it was nothing but that, marketing. Props the team blue for beating the red team to the punch.

[@donniebaker5984]

What are yea bout 70 years l old , old man ..so what the hell do you know...( you know everything that Yoshimura knew ..who taught me everything I know ..) I'm now age 70 . .in my 20's when I met "pop" Yoshimura and we were building CR125R and CR250R,

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

Its a damn shame there are only 4 of these out there..

[@stevenl8687]

Come on Suzuki where’s the new RM those things just sound awesome! I’m sure they would sell more smokers then thumpers just my 2 cents🤷🏼‍♂️

[@nissan_6828]

RMs are dope bikes can easily go up against a YZ without any issued

[@nasty3145]

I had a 1999 TM125. What a fucking machine that thing was for its time. I can only imagine this 2020 250 must be insane.

[@christianturner8106]

I mean..what about suspension? Hp? Prices? Guess i gotta go check other shootouts for that?

[@rhjhffffyyhhgu138]

Finally a tm

[@dylansmith5880]

A new kx and cr 250 would be a dream come true. People would definitely buy them, including me

[@rokbottom999]

the sound gave an ear to ear smile!!!

[@prestonace2448]

I prefer 4 strokes but I’m just happy that these manufacturers are still making these beasts

[@michelmartin4151]

I felt the vibrations while watching this!

[@kyleyaro302]

Not in the ktm and husky but yam for sure numb feet and hands lol

[@dakotanewman4443]

@@kyleyaro302 The TM is counter balanced too.

[@johnsheetz6639]

Back in the day it was all CR. Imo but I got love for every brand. Those 90' kx's Were the coolest looking bikes ever!

[@DeathProof132]

it seems a little ironic to me that Yamaha who was the first major manufacturer to produce a competitive 4 stroke race bike and started that revolution is now the only Japanese brand to still make a 2 stroke MX bike.

[@johnnythorington570]

Is it just me or did the Yamaha look visibly more under control than the others. Watch the video and see if you ever see the YZ do anything funny. See if you can find any of the others whose front end doesn’t dance around multiple times. Smoother more tractable power and predictable handling. I think this bike gets penalized more for perception than reality of what most folks could go faster on. I’ve owned 5 KTMs and 5 Yamahas over the years. I switched back to blue from orange this year for these two reasons. Don’t hate them just because they perfected the no frills 2-stroke 15 years ago.

[@revengeof1307]

Its definitely way more planted with that extra weight and more of a low end powerband

[@marklowe7431]

We ride bikes for thrills right. Which one wraps it on?

[@vmontijo]

Hey Suzuki... where is your 2-stroke RM??? Hint Hint... C'mon...

[@kolbybroussard4630]

The captions are so accurate because it says music every time the bikes are ripping

[@braydonsnell8791]

I own an 07 yz250 basically stock apart from an 18 in rear wheel and a gytr shorty pipe. It's the best bike I've ever owned. But i wouldnt mind one of those TM's :)

[@Dartht33bagger]

Those KTMs look great.

[@guyonthecouch136]

Keep The Money, buy something else

[@martinrincon8954]

Very happy 2 stokes back they r a lot more fun when RACING 🖒🤘👍🤘☇☇😁💣🔥💥🔝☠☠

[@johnsheetz6639]

That husky with the 1980s livery on it like back in the day they were never contenders I like to see him on top now they make a God damn good chainsaw

[@jeremyhowell2332]

I’d still get the YZ. Being that it’s Japanese, I’d bet the manufacturing is second to none. The Italians make beautiful things...that break often. As for KTM and Husky, unfortunately they’re manufacturing more and more in china. That alone worries me.

[@paolopaletti2738]

" Gli italiani fanno cose belle... che si rompono spesso" non credo proprio.La Tm racing è una piccola azienda che produce 3000 motociclette ogni anno, sono fatte a mano da persone appassionate Purtroppo per noi,la ktm ha una forza economica da riempire di soldi le maggiori testate di informazione e mediatiche del settore(che TM racing a lei non interessa),,inoltre le moto del gruppo ktm che vengono testate sono accuratamente preparate, mentre le altre le prendono ramdom dai concessionari . W l'Italia abbasso gli austroasiatici

[@Dashriprock4]

@@paolopaletti2738 I absolutely agree. My old Italian husky 4-stroke has been absolutely flawless. A friend of mine has a Italian Husqvarna WR125 that is clearly better than my KTM.

[@paolopaletti2738]

@@Dashriprock4 ciao, ktm è una ottima motocicletta,MA,come dicevo ktm ha disponibilità economica per riempire le riviste di pubblicità,di riflesso queste non potranno mai parlare male, anzi.Quando fanno le comparative con altri brand ,le ktm sono quelle con la migliore messa a punto delle altre che sono prese random dai concessionari. La stessa cosa bmw,fino a 20 anni fale testate giornalistiche di settore, non le prendevano neppure in considerazione, ma con l'esplosione di pubblicità sia sui giornali e sia nel comparto mediatico del settore,con i soldi che incassano non potranno mai parlare male di loro, anzi l''anno scorso su una testata giornalistica di settore,ha fatto la prova del bmw 1250 gs,a fine prova il tester ha detto un sacco di bugie!Quasi quasi se uno con una bmw 1250 gs potrebbe partecipare ad una tappa di Mondiale Enduro,nella fattispecie qui da noi in Italia alla "Valli Bergamasche" e addirittura fare meglio di una Beta,TM Racing,Honda o Yamaha

[@Dashriprock4]

@@paolopaletti2738 It reminds me of a recent comparison test done in this magazine. The beta 500 dual sport finished first or second in every single category and then they went and declared the KTM the winner.

[@dangerdane8448]

For the 2021 2 stroke shootout you need to add the gasgas 250 tp the fleet along with other manufactors like sherco and beta to widen the field

[@kellybrown6988]

Does sherco and beta even make motocross bikes?

[@cleiss1695]

Tm is basically handmade it’s very impressive😳

[@Toad_Moto]

I would love to own a two stroke. It's on my list

[@elliotsmith4905]

Are you doing a 125 shootout soon

[@DirtBikeMagazine]

You never know ; )

[@marshallkolb7616]

Dirtbike Magazine 2021 models?

[@localenterprisebroadcastin5971]

What’s the point of the double intro with re-used shots?

[@travismoon5290]

Id love to try a tm and a husky. Never had the opportunity to ride either..

[@garagecedric]

Beta 300 RX should fit nicely in there :)

[@IRON_D]

2 strokes still have a major market share in the off road enduro hare scramble trail ride scene... strange most dealerships in this area are Yamaha/KTM... you would think some of the other Japanese companies would want some pie!!!

[@Incindio13]

Beta 250 RR Race Edition and new for 2021 the Beta 300 RX.

[@jimbeaux89]

Damn this makes me want to ride so bad. This also makes me want a 250 2 stroke 😭

[@tonyt1554]

TM Gets 4th under Yamaha? The only valid reason is weight. So the added horsepower means nothing?

[@parkerlackey1253]

I'd kill to bring back the CR250

[@frietzjohntirado1463]

I steal love the 2018's model. The other video

[@AntiPattern328]

Nice shootout! Does Gas Gas have one? Their 4-strokes are killing it in the GP's this year. Contender for sure.

[@damiangrisoli5592]

ngh yes owned by ktm for a year now.

[@BerserkerNZ]

Would have been good to see Gas Gas, Beta and Sherco included. I have ridden all these brands in the video and must say the YZ is king. For the last few years however I have been riding a Gas Gas EC250 and the Gas Gas EC300......they are brilliant, highly specced and super reliable. Would not even consider selling them....ever!

[@b2ridez279]

Ya'll gave like zero detailed info on why the bikes got ranked the way they did. The TM for example: its pricier, heavier (because of e start and an electronic power valve) and "quirckier"?? What does that mean? Hows the powerband to the rest, how's it corner, how's it jump, how's the suspension?

[@savagehandzzz3153]

Been waiting for this!!!

[@aaronodguy967]

7:15. 20 years after its initial design? It hasn't changed since 2006!