2020 250 Two Stroke Shootout - Dirt Bike Magazine

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@brendantremmel479
@brendantremmel479 4 жыл бұрын
Short Answer: They’re all winners. Because every manufacturer in this shootout still has the guts to make a 2 stroke.
@StabEDealin
@StabEDealin 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, I've got a '92 KX250 and that thing still rips. Can't imagine how sweet they'd be if they kept it up. I'm gonna get that YZ250X for next bike, gotta support! ✊Braap!
@Aglow37
@Aglow37 4 жыл бұрын
Dan Bates Yea man old kawis are nasty I’ve been on a 04yz250 for a while now and I recently got a blown up 05kx250, can’t wait to hear her scream
@vmontijo
@vmontijo 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Brendan!
@MrFROGY1313
@MrFROGY1313 4 жыл бұрын
fantic is coming back with updated cross enduro model on yz base. beta is coming with a 300cc model too
@mitchringel4270
@mitchringel4270 4 жыл бұрын
If you kill a 2 stroke it’s like a video game you’re a high level at, some disposable cash later and you’re back on the track. You blow a valve or seize the motor on a 4 stroke though... might as well look for a used bike with the same engine and get the extra parts to boot.
@ScottNoFwens
@ScottNoFwens 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for just letting us hear that magnificent sound throughout the whole video rather than drowning it all out with music.
@jlvfarm9241
@jlvfarm9241 4 жыл бұрын
Suzuki Honda kawasaki bring back the 2 strokes the market damand is there
@shonrob1620
@shonrob1620 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my sons Running a 93 KX125 99 KX60 and 97 CR250 long live the 2 stroke
@percussion44
@percussion44 4 жыл бұрын
KTM sold 280,000 motorcycles in 2019, Yamaha sold over 5,000,000. Assuming Honda say, builds a 2 stroke, and manages to steal some of KTM/Husky/Beta sales. It's also stealing sales from it's own 4 stroke line of bikes. You have to go in front of the product dev boys and explain how gaining 20-30 thousand sales of 2 strokes a year at a profit margin of 1,000 bucks per bike, you need to sell for 5 years to make back the tooling cost (100, 000, 000$) of production. In 5 years the EPA or eurozone could well declare 2 strokes banned for environmental reasons. Keep in mind such enviro reasons are BS, one transoceanic container ship emits more pollution in a year than the worlds entire 2 stroke fleet, you don't see government calls for ending international trade or going back to Clipper ships. I digress. The point is Yamaha sells YZ250's at a good profit as a legacy product. No R&D costs, tooling paid off etc. Sales are to Yamaha fan boys and to those who want a smoker but don't want KTM's ridiculous prices. In conclusion such a project entails risk, big capital outlay etc for a -potential- paltry few million in profits. These companies look at billion dollar bottom lines. They could probably make a few million selling a line of BOLD NEW GRAPHICS stickers. Cheers
@StabEDealin
@StabEDealin 4 жыл бұрын
@Saldetor Vulcano Yeah buddy! '92 KX250 here and she rips! Hard to imagine that some bikes are faster lol
@timmooney6961
@timmooney6961 4 жыл бұрын
Suzuki get looked down on basically c they stopped making big 2 strokes, I currently have an rm85l and I love it, but Suzuki have nothing for bigger riders, i will probably change to a Yamaha or ktm one day but I would buy another Suzuki if they had more 2 stokes.
@thezoms9961
@thezoms9961 4 жыл бұрын
Kawis biggest production 2t is there 85 Lotta people say they make 100's still but I haven't found one
@LilLefty27
@LilLefty27 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs a 2 stroke in their life
@joshsmith9058
@joshsmith9058 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 4 stroke and love it but I will get a 2 again soon
@LilLefty27
@LilLefty27 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Smith come back to the bright side of the force 😂
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know when the covid commies are going to end our way of life, have not ridden in 17 years, and picking up a YZ250 2-stroke tomorrow. I got lucky to find one, (5hr used 2019). No dealership has one.
@joshsmith9058
@joshsmith9058 4 жыл бұрын
@@LilLefty27 i agree but I am 40 now and the FE 501 is very smooth and easy to ride. But we all know there is nothing like the ting ting of a 2 stroke.
@brendantremmel479
@brendantremmel479 4 жыл бұрын
EarthSurferUSA That’s sick! Good to support Yamaha for being the only manufacturer from the Big 4 to keep making full sized ring dingers to this day!
@ktmripper849
@ktmripper849 4 жыл бұрын
Music to my ears!!! 2 stroke for life
@firebladex8586
@firebladex8586 4 жыл бұрын
I honesly think electrics are going to take over now that battery tech such as Lithium sulfur, solid state etc eliminate the basically only drawback.
@ericmcclellan4660
@ericmcclellan4660 4 жыл бұрын
I Grew up 1977 XR75, Then it got Good 1978 Yz125 monoshock, Then 1980 CR250 while Living In Oregon, Had Sand Dunes in Florence, Casada Mountains and Coastal MTN's, ...Now I Ride a KLR650 All Over Gravel and Back roads in Pennsylvania at 55yrs...I've Redline the KLR WFO on Gravel Many of times......
@wipperwil
@wipperwil 3 жыл бұрын
Yay to Yamaha for sticking in there. Going to pick up either a yz125 to turn in to a woods weapon or a Husky TE200. Shame to Honda, Kawasaki, and Suzuki for dropping 2-strokes.
@johnthomas6614
@johnthomas6614 4 жыл бұрын
Just call me Old school love 2 strokes. the sound / feeling / smell. mixing gas & kickin ass 🏁 Wick On ✊ 2 Strokes
@slinger1237
@slinger1237 4 жыл бұрын
A 2 stroke only feels right when you have to kickstart it
@Sleepy.Time.
@Sleepy.Time. 4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha needs to do another run of yellow and black Yz's
@teddyf9438
@teddyf9438 4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha needs to do another run of rnd on the yz’s
@Sleepy.Time.
@Sleepy.Time. 4 жыл бұрын
@@teddyf9438 i think Yamaha has done a good job keeping the price down and new bells and whistles that maybe cut a half second off our lap is not really worth seeing the Yz's jump up to KTM price levels
@teddyf9438
@teddyf9438 4 жыл бұрын
Sleepy .Time honestly i think neither company has done a good job keeping the price down, but yea to me, I just chose what I could get a good deal on- happened to be a ktm. I think yz’s are still badass, just wish they made them newer!
@kadend2669
@kadend2669 4 жыл бұрын
Sleepy .Time exactly. The fact yamaha still makes a big bore 2 stroke is awesome. And the prices are even better. And yes they aren’t technically as good, but if you arent an amazing rider, this will mean nothing to you
@Aglow37
@Aglow37 4 жыл бұрын
Teddy F all imma say ab my 04 yz250 is she’s reliable 😂 first kick bike with atleast 30hrs on the piston🤣
@robertococcia9815
@robertococcia9815 4 жыл бұрын
2stroke its true essence of the motocross
@Tibingi84
@Tibingi84 4 жыл бұрын
F-I-N-A-L-L-Y! I think you're the first magazine to do this shootout... much appreciation to you guys!
@alexandrakingi8502
@alexandrakingi8502 4 жыл бұрын
Yup! Been waiting for this.
@ccsmooth55
@ccsmooth55 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of a YZ250 is absolutely unmistakable. Had a 2002 YZ250 I bought brand new in 2003. Its was a dream to ride and race. It had absolutely no weaknesses.
@flowersthewizard9336
@flowersthewizard9336 Жыл бұрын
2005 yz125 with a 144 kit on it was my beauty
@Mile.HighMoto
@Mile.HighMoto 4 жыл бұрын
*I* *traded* *in* *my* *2019* *crf* *450* *for* a *2020* *Husky* *Tc250* And I’m in love
@uexzia4294
@uexzia4294 4 жыл бұрын
Great bike aye just got my 2020 2 weeks ago
@jcolt3882
@jcolt3882 3 жыл бұрын
What's better at handling?
@DGfilms1996
@DGfilms1996 4 жыл бұрын
do a shootout of all the final year japanese 250 two strokes including the ktm, 07/08 that would be awesome
@Shepmx88
@Shepmx88 4 жыл бұрын
They have back in 2007
@chris092183
@chris092183 4 жыл бұрын
The final year Japanese bikes (suzuki, honda, kawi) against the new tm, ktm, husky, gasgas and yz
@slimchancejw
@slimchancejw 4 жыл бұрын
Ktm is made in China and india
@Madtigertv
@Madtigertv 4 жыл бұрын
Well the YZ's basically the same bike
@timmyrichmond2977
@timmyrichmond2977 4 жыл бұрын
Please do thisssssss
@cjpasion4549
@cjpasion4549 4 жыл бұрын
I miss when kx and cr were in the 2 stroke game but now I’m just a 2 stroke fan of any manufacture that makes it
@davidhubbert7586
@davidhubbert7586 4 жыл бұрын
My 1st bike , 1979 yz250 . Yellow and black. Too old to ride now but the sound and smell still gets the old heart pumping!
@paulmarshall8774
@paulmarshall8774 3 жыл бұрын
That was my first bike to back in 88👍, now on a 19 Tc250 I’m a big Honda fan but no new 2st’s😔
@noneofyourbusiness5433
@noneofyourbusiness5433 4 жыл бұрын
I’m turning 44 this year so I grew up riding 2 bangers, but it warms my heart to know the young guys still love them too.
@johnnyvivic8730
@johnnyvivic8730 4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah, 4-strokes can't beat the thrill of a 2-stroke. 4-strokes do everything better than 2-strokes, _except_ for how well they'll put a smile on your face. That's what matters for weekend warriors like me.
@LEANDROYZ98
@LEANDROYZ98 4 жыл бұрын
YZ 250 MY DREAM.
@ConnerBonner1
@ConnerBonner1 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Honda can make a goddamn two stroke
@dominickjohnston5881
@dominickjohnston5881 4 жыл бұрын
Honda will never make another 2 stroke they hated their smokers once they started production on the 450
@andrewb232
@andrewb232 4 жыл бұрын
my cr250 has a lectron,boysen rad valve,pro circuit pipe and a phathead and it smokes every other 2 stroke and 450 i have ever raced im sure it would smoke the 2020 450 line up to
@andrewb232
@andrewb232 4 жыл бұрын
so i bet if honda made 2 strokes today with the new 4 stroke technology they would easily blow away any 4 stroke
@dominickjohnston5881
@dominickjohnston5881 4 жыл бұрын
andrew b KTM/Husky and TM and Beta have already done that bro. F.I ams O.I mixed with counter balancing. The new ktm 300’s have the torque and power of a 4 stroke but the Powerband of a 2 stroke... crazy how good their bikes are
@dominickjohnston5881
@dominickjohnston5881 4 жыл бұрын
andrew b doubt it... my yz250 is built to the teeth. Fmf gnarly, Fmf turbinecore Q, boyenson Dual stage Carbon reeds, porting, timing advanced 2 degree, perfectly jetted Kehin carb, 100 octane, and milled head, and it can’t hang with the 450’s in the topend. Bike tops out at 80mph but that’s pushing it. These 450’s are making like 60hp stock...
@francoforcucci4198
@francoforcucci4198 4 жыл бұрын
Man i hope they don't stop making these.. we all need a 2 stroke in our life
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Electric start on a 250 2-stroke? We have gotten soft.
@codenamenoob4973
@codenamenoob4973 4 жыл бұрын
Electric start can be the difference between a race won or a race lost as a second here or there due to a mistake on the track could easily cost you the race if the bike doesn't kickstart into life
@ShadeTreeKennyT
@ShadeTreeKennyT 4 жыл бұрын
EarthSurferUSA totally agree. Nothin like gettin on that kicker, snappin yer leg and hearin that WUM, bah,bum, bah,bum, bah,bum when it fires to life.
@johnnyvivic8730
@johnnyvivic8730 4 жыл бұрын
@@codenamenoob4973 Although I kind of still prefer a kickstart for the feel, you're right. I've stalled my bike during a race many times before, and it usually happens as I'm slamming on the brakes right before I enter a corner. An electric start would make things a million times easier. Stopping and kicking your bike in the middle of the race - even if it starts up immediately - is hugely problematic, mainly because you have to stand up and adjust your position so much, and by the time you get it started you've already screwed up your entry into the next obstacle.
@fkhan577
@fkhan577 4 жыл бұрын
What do you expect after 20+ years of 4s ..
@ShadeTreeKennyT
@ShadeTreeKennyT 4 жыл бұрын
@Josh Gee apparently you've never kicked over a big bore such as an RM465 or CR500. 🙄😏
@paulbarnett2083
@paulbarnett2083 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love you guys are still doing the two stroke shootout Two Strokes rule
@elliottframe21
@elliottframe21 4 жыл бұрын
im a yz person but god do i love those tms hand built in italy there just all round lovely looking bikes
@seb250cr
@seb250cr 4 жыл бұрын
I have the subtitles on for the video. When they kick start the bikes, the subtitle say :" Thank you". I couldn't agree more.
@vmontijo
@vmontijo 4 жыл бұрын
Its due time for the Supercross rules to allow 2-strokes to be 2/3 the cc's of the 4-strokes... this means a 300cc 2-stroke racing against 450cc strokers, and ~150cc 2-strokes vs 250cc strokers... the 2:1 cc advantage is unfair. When I was younger back in the 70's/80's, there was NO cc advantage given to 4-strokes... if your bike was a 500cc, you raced against other 500cc bikes no matter how many times it fired per revolution... 4-stroke technology has advanced far enough that this 2:1 rule is not fair, as you can tell by the lack of 2-strokes on the grid... lets mix it up!
@dunfielder
@dunfielder 4 жыл бұрын
They should just get rid of the stupid rules they came up with years ago that killed the 2 stroke. With a skilled rider I'd bet a 450 2stroke eats a 450 4stroke
@kickstartkrew9924
@kickstartkrew9924 4 жыл бұрын
@@dunfielder no matter what you do to a two-stroke a 450 4-stroke will always crush it on the track. There's no way to get 60+ horsepower out of a smoker and yet have it be measured and as controllable for a full race. Now as for equal displacement in the smaller 250 engines you might have something there. But as for the fastest way to get around a track, until electric bikes receive further development, a 450 four-stroke is still the king.
@jeredalmeida1880
@jeredalmeida1880 4 жыл бұрын
@@kickstartkrew9924 It's "The King" because they don't make 2 strokes in 450. If the 2T hadn't been pushed out of Supercross, they'd be putting more resources into 2stroke R&D and properly tuning their suspensions and gearing like they've been doing with 4strokes as of late.
@kickstartkrew9924
@kickstartkrew9924 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeredalmeida1880 JS7: "if you're on a 4 stroke and you get passed by a 2 stroke you should just quit"
@jeredalmeida1880
@jeredalmeida1880 4 жыл бұрын
@@kickstartkrew9924 Then stop racing against YZ 85s on your 450
@markbarrett9882
@markbarrett9882 4 жыл бұрын
Turned 50 & bought a 2020 Husky TC125 - Serious fun! Like a Rocket !! It is great to rip a 2 stroke again,, wow amazing engineering on this Husky-
@raoulduke3770
@raoulduke3770 4 жыл бұрын
To this day the best overall motorcycle I ever owned was probably my 1990 CR250. Pro Circuit pipe and a light port job; motor was perfect in every way
@harrykourm2462
@harrykourm2462 4 жыл бұрын
that yamaha scream is so nice
@jakobcrain350
@jakobcrain350 4 жыл бұрын
I’m going to buy a 250 2 stroke this yesr
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck finding the one you want, (the commie attack on our free market is worse than I thought). I wanted new, but got lucking finding a slightly used YZ250. Picking it up tomorrow. Riding gear is getting hard to find too.
@Davido50
@Davido50 4 жыл бұрын
Me too! Husqvarna all the way.
@patcalandrella
@patcalandrella 3 жыл бұрын
I barely got ahold of a 2021 yz250, when I walked on dealer in january they had one still in the crate, I bought it instantly, going as fast as they can make them!
@montycrain5783
@montycrain5783 4 жыл бұрын
BRC says they’re making a 500 conversion for the 1998- to current YZ-250s similar to their KTM/Husky. Finally a YZM-500 in the pipeline.
@alexevans7916
@alexevans7916 4 жыл бұрын
Fifty years ago I bought Dirt Bike Magazine and then a Husky 250 mxer before long travel suspension.Great to see both still top of the game.
@Tater4200
@Tater4200 4 жыл бұрын
i will always...ALWAYS love my 2 strokes. 4 strokes have a place in my heart. but 2 strokes have my soul
@2stroketyson79
@2stroketyson79 2 жыл бұрын
4 strokes have a place in a motorcycle or a car not a dirt bike for me! if its not a 2T dirt bike its just a motorcycle with dirt tires!
@brewskibrew986
@brewskibrew986 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing all them 2 strokes tearing up the track is music to my ears 🤤
@hudsonriley2094
@hudsonriley2094 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 55 years old now with alot of health trouble and dirt bikes were a huge part of my life. I never missed a second when not working to throw a leg over my Kawasaki stable. I had a kx 420 a kdx420 and a kx 125. I am currently restoring a 2008 kx 250. I will never understand why the two stroke was dropped. I bought the first year kx450f it was a 4 speed and a brute. But who wants to spend a thousand bucks three or more times a year, and 10 hrs in labor. The two strokes are good for hundred rides if maintenance is done and quality oil is used. And a top end is about 150 and 45 minutes Laber. They can have all the thumpers. And by the way Yamaha should not be in the shoot out. They were the one that started the 4 stroke debacle.
@brianmorrison9066
@brianmorrison9066 4 жыл бұрын
Comparing the 2006 yz250 against the new line up, I see
@ramcycle7
@ramcycle7 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@richardfilippi8977
@richardfilippi8977 4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha IS a better than more more years
@tmracing7626
@tmracing7626 4 жыл бұрын
TM racing💪💪
@supaxr
@supaxr 4 жыл бұрын
Pressed Like before watching cause everyone knows 250s are sickkkk
@chrisvids1820
@chrisvids1820 3 жыл бұрын
Those 4 guys look like they're having so much fun out there
@tysoniswolfed
@tysoniswolfed 4 жыл бұрын
That Husky TC250 Sounds Crispy Ranks the Top this Year.
@motocrosspk
@motocrosspk 4 жыл бұрын
Love and respect all the way from Pakistan
@yeti8it396
@yeti8it396 4 жыл бұрын
Been a fan of Dirtbike Magazine from the early 80s .
@jaybee1892
@jaybee1892 3 жыл бұрын
That intro with the launch was dope!
@michelmartin4151
@michelmartin4151 4 жыл бұрын
I felt the vibrations while watching this!
@kyleyaro302
@kyleyaro302 4 жыл бұрын
Not in the ktm and husky but yam for sure numb feet and hands lol
@dakotanewman4443
@dakotanewman4443 4 жыл бұрын
@@kyleyaro302 The TM is counter balanced too.
@andrewstahl6916
@andrewstahl6916 4 жыл бұрын
2 stroke MX market might be declining slowly, but I want the 2 stroke ATV market to come back, we need a new banshee!
@andreasstefanou5898
@andreasstefanou5898 4 жыл бұрын
I would go with th Yz250 Easier to ride More fun Better suspension and more reliable... I have to admit though that TM is a beauty. TM would be my second choice
@LikeAPetrol
@LikeAPetrol 4 жыл бұрын
The same thoughts.
@andreasstefanou5898
@andreasstefanou5898 4 жыл бұрын
@@LikeAPetrol for me YZ250 is the gold standard. The fact that is easy to ride is very important. Besides that it give you so much confidence, its much better when the track is not perfect. More forgiving and more safe. When i feel confident and safe(as safe as i can be with motocross 😝) i can go faster
@LikeAPetrol
@LikeAPetrol 4 жыл бұрын
@@andreasstefanou5898 Absolutely. My KTM 250SX'2014 scares me sometimes.
@andreasstefanou5898
@andreasstefanou5898 4 жыл бұрын
@@LikeAPetrol my best mate have a tm 300 2 stroke. That bike is so much powerful but the same time soooo easy to ride Very predictable.... Like a 4 stroke. I would also go with TM any day of the week. Power is nothing without control.... Linear power is a key to go fast
@EarthSurferUSA
@EarthSurferUSA 4 жыл бұрын
I am 56 years old and have not ridden in 17 years. Picking up a very slightly used 2019 YZ250 tomorrow, (can't find a new one in any year, no dealer has them). I don't think everything I love about the USA is going to last much longer. I am going to live my USA while I still can.
@ThesisHimselfOfficial
@ThesisHimselfOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Came here for the sound of my childhood.
@kx501
@kx501 4 жыл бұрын
Iv'e ridden all those bikes and the TM followed by the YZ are the pick of the bunch, they out handled the other 2 , much better suspension and torquier motors.
@shoanning
@shoanning 3 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely crazy about 2 stroke bikes. The powerban sends you to 7th heaven
@2stroketyson79
@2stroketyson79 2 жыл бұрын
climbing the stairway!
@cupslinga
@cupslinga 4 жыл бұрын
Show up to any track and all the four strokers stop to listen 😆✌️
@Dierk200185
@Dierk200185 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple guy...I see two stroke MX bikes -> *click* Cool showing the deffertent charateristics, none of them is not good or has issues, every bike seems to be refined in its way. And the sound of a 250 two stroke is just wonderful 💖 Bummer that Suzuki gave up the RM 125/250 I think the last gens, K6/K7/K8 RM 250s were really solid bikes everyone would like to have around.
@jdirt1982
@jdirt1982 4 жыл бұрын
I'd go YZ
@paahtopro3950
@paahtopro3950 3 жыл бұрын
Id go tm if i had the money
@dosstheboss100
@dosstheboss100 2 жыл бұрын
What oil and mixture are they running didn't see 1 puff of smoke?
@rokbottom999
@rokbottom999 4 жыл бұрын
the sound gave an ear to ear smile!!!
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 4 жыл бұрын
Its a damn shame there are only 4 of these out there..
@WICKEDMS
@WICKEDMS 4 жыл бұрын
AMA sold out to the top 4-stroke manufactures, like the Rock Sold out to Hollywood.
@caydenthompson126
@caydenthompson126 4 жыл бұрын
Facts lol
@craigchambers6830
@craigchambers6830 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Honda bring back the cr 2 strokes 💙💯
@Dartht33bagger
@Dartht33bagger 4 жыл бұрын
Those KTMs look great.
@guyonthecouch136
@guyonthecouch136 4 жыл бұрын
Keep The Money, buy something else
@jcsquared1111
@jcsquared1111 3 жыл бұрын
Just turned 40 and decided to ride again used to ride a lot yz 80 then 125 for a bit. Put depo on new yz125 but worried I shpuld have gotten the 250 as I am a but over weight now at 220lb. Intend on shedding down to 190. Any thoughts ? And please be kind as im just an oldan trying to get back into shape and miss ridong big time
@nasty3145
@nasty3145 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 1999 TM125. What a fucking machine that thing was for its time. I can only imagine this 2020 250 must be insane.
@chrisbatstone9742
@chrisbatstone9742 4 жыл бұрын
About time guys sx motocross should be souly 2 strokes so much pure action fun excitement sound feel everything
@cleiss1695
@cleiss1695 3 жыл бұрын
Tm is basically handmade it’s very impressive😳
@tylertrowell5859
@tylertrowell5859 4 жыл бұрын
Please, Please do an 85 2 stroke shootout
@prestonace2448
@prestonace2448 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer 4 strokes but I’m just happy that these manufacturers are still making these beasts
@stephenmitchum5864
@stephenmitchum5864 4 жыл бұрын
This comparison brought to light a Industry secret, that the media, manufacturers and dealers do not like the public to know. There is very little meaningful differences between bikes of two decades ago and today. The fact is if you could uncrate a new 1997 YZ 250 it would run comparable lap times with any of these bike’s . As a matter of a fact with some mods it would be a better bike the the current YX 250 because the steel frame was superior to the current aluminum frame. I was a dealer during the marketing ploy of 4 strokes and aluminum frames and it was nothing but that, marketing. Props the team blue for beating the red team to the punch.
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 4 жыл бұрын
What are yea bout 70 years l old , old man ..so what the hell do you know...( you know everything that Yoshimura knew ..who taught me everything I know ..) I'm now age 70 . .in my 20's when I met "pop" Yoshimura and we were building CR125R and CR250R,
@jenslaursen1
@jenslaursen1 4 жыл бұрын
Great test guys! Could you elaborate on why the tm finished last? Motor suspension? Just that it is heavy and have a weird feel?
@andreasstefanou5898
@andreasstefanou5898 4 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to ride TM 125 and TM 300 2 stroke and 300 4 stroke. I can asure you that TM are AMAZING. Especially the 2 strokes. I liked them much better than KTM's. I have to admit that i am a YAMAHA guy but i have to admit that i was really close to sell my YZ for a TM. I haven't ridden the 250 but i am pretty sure that it will awesome too
@GoProBlizzard
@GoProBlizzard 4 жыл бұрын
Just because they don’t pay them.
@dakotanewman4443
@dakotanewman4443 4 жыл бұрын
@@GoProBlizzard Ecactly what I was going to say. The smaller company's have less money to dish out.
@martinrincon8954
@martinrincon8954 4 жыл бұрын
Very happy 2 stokes back they r a lot more fun when RACING 🖒🤘👍🤘☇☇😁💣🔥💥🔝☠☠
@DeathProof132
@DeathProof132 3 жыл бұрын
it seems a little ironic to me that Yamaha who was the first major manufacturer to produce a competitive 4 stroke race bike and started that revolution is now the only Japanese brand to still make a 2 stroke MX bike.
@kolbybroussard4630
@kolbybroussard4630 4 жыл бұрын
The captions are so accurate because it says music every time the bikes are ripping
@vmontijo
@vmontijo 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Suzuki... where is your 2-stroke RM??? Hint Hint... C'mon...
@mofekka
@mofekka 3 жыл бұрын
great video. Love the sound these bikes make. I have the 2021 KTM 300 xc-w and it is an amazing bike. Best purchase I ever made
@dylansmith5880
@dylansmith5880 4 жыл бұрын
A new kx and cr 250 would be a dream come true. People would definitely buy them, including me
@johnnythorington570
@johnnythorington570 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did the Yamaha look visibly more under control than the others. Watch the video and see if you ever see the YZ do anything funny. See if you can find any of the others whose front end doesn’t dance around multiple times. Smoother more tractable power and predictable handling. I think this bike gets penalized more for perception than reality of what most folks could go faster on. I’ve owned 5 KTMs and 5 Yamahas over the years. I switched back to blue from orange this year for these two reasons. Don’t hate them just because they perfected the no frills 2-stroke 15 years ago.
@revengeof1307
@revengeof1307 2 жыл бұрын
Its definitely way more planted with that extra weight and more of a low end powerband
@renewed_stitch
@renewed_stitch 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this!!!
@mrblack3480
@mrblack3480 4 жыл бұрын
Yz is the og, the rest seem out of place
@johnsheetz6639
@johnsheetz6639 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day it was all CR. Imo but I got love for every brand. Those 90' kx's Were the coolest looking bikes ever!
@tonyt1554
@tonyt1554 4 жыл бұрын
TM Gets 4th under Yamaha? The only valid reason is weight. So the added horsepower means nothing?
@johnsheetz6639
@johnsheetz6639 2 жыл бұрын
That husky with the 1980s livery on it like back in the day they were never contenders I like to see him on top now they make a God damn good chainsaw
@localenterprisebroadcastin5971
@localenterprisebroadcastin5971 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the point of the double intro with re-used shots?
@YZ250W1
@YZ250W1 3 жыл бұрын
Still riding my 07 YZ250 and loving it.
@taylormccallum
@taylormccallum 3 жыл бұрын
Yamaha needs to put the yz250 motor in the yz250f frame and put e start on the yz250x
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't ridden a dirt bike in anger since I was kid (AMA 125cc Motocross Expert License and then 250cc/350cc Road Race Experts license) in the mid 70's...who/what is TM? p.s. I beat Jeff Ward twice the only two times we ever raced.
@frietzjohntirado1463
@frietzjohntirado1463 3 жыл бұрын
I steal love the 2018's model. The other video
@jeremyhowell2332
@jeremyhowell2332 3 жыл бұрын
I’d still get the YZ. Being that it’s Japanese, I’d bet the manufacturing is second to none. The Italians make beautiful things...that break often. As for KTM and Husky, unfortunately they’re manufacturing more and more in china. That alone worries me.
@paolopaletti2738
@paolopaletti2738 3 жыл бұрын
" Gli italiani fanno cose belle... che si rompono spesso" non credo proprio.La Tm racing è una piccola azienda che produce 3000 motociclette ogni anno, sono fatte a mano da persone appassionate Purtroppo per noi,la ktm ha una forza economica da riempire di soldi le maggiori testate di informazione e mediatiche del settore(che TM racing a lei non interessa),,inoltre le moto del gruppo ktm che vengono testate sono accuratamente preparate, mentre le altre le prendono ramdom dai concessionari . W l'Italia abbasso gli austroasiatici
@Dashriprock4
@Dashriprock4 3 жыл бұрын
@@paolopaletti2738 I absolutely agree. My old Italian husky 4-stroke has been absolutely flawless. A friend of mine has a Italian Husqvarna WR125 that is clearly better than my KTM.
@paolopaletti2738
@paolopaletti2738 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dashriprock4 ciao, ktm è una ottima motocicletta,MA,come dicevo ktm ha disponibilità economica per riempire le riviste di pubblicità,di riflesso queste non potranno mai parlare male, anzi.Quando fanno le comparative con altri brand ,le ktm sono quelle con la migliore messa a punto delle altre che sono prese random dai concessionari. La stessa cosa bmw,fino a 20 anni fale testate giornalistiche di settore, non le prendevano neppure in considerazione, ma con l'esplosione di pubblicità sia sui giornali e sia nel comparto mediatico del settore,con i soldi che incassano non potranno mai parlare male di loro, anzi l''anno scorso su una testata giornalistica di settore,ha fatto la prova del bmw 1250 gs,a fine prova il tester ha detto un sacco di bugie!Quasi quasi se uno con una bmw 1250 gs potrebbe partecipare ad una tappa di Mondiale Enduro,nella fattispecie qui da noi in Italia alla "Valli Bergamasche" e addirittura fare meglio di una Beta,TM Racing,Honda o Yamaha
@Dashriprock4
@Dashriprock4 3 жыл бұрын
@@paolopaletti2738 It reminds me of a recent comparison test done in this magazine. The beta 500 dual sport finished first or second in every single category and then they went and declared the KTM the winner.
@jimbeaux89
@jimbeaux89 3 жыл бұрын
Damn this makes me want to ride so bad. This also makes me want a 250 2 stroke 😭
@aaronodguy967
@aaronodguy967 4 жыл бұрын
7:15. 20 years after its initial design? It hasn't changed since 2006!
@sxbfanz9734
@sxbfanz9734 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, what is the best type of it that has been ruined by a few? 250 cc and what is its price? What is the type of desert bears / follow you from Saudi Arabia🇸🇦😊
@stevenl8687
@stevenl8687 3 жыл бұрын
Come on Suzuki where’s the new RM those things just sound awesome! I’m sure they would sell more smokers then thumpers just my 2 cents🤷🏼‍♂️
@nissan_6828
@nissan_6828 2 жыл бұрын
RMs are dope bikes can easily go up against a YZ without any issued
@rhjhffffyyhhgu138
@rhjhffffyyhhgu138 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a tm
@x4nbus
@x4nbus 4 жыл бұрын
We all might like different manufacturers but at least we all are still riding 2 strokes!
@beavishawk1
@beavishawk1 4 жыл бұрын
84 IT 200 was my last dirt bike.. It rolled along pretty well.. Nothin like a hot 2cycle. If you can ride a good 2 cycle, then 4sroke is cake... Like gettin cruise control for the first time.
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 4 жыл бұрын
You have never motocrossed a four stroke as they are no piece a cake..front end always wants to push and wash out ..with two stroke the handle bars are floating and you steer with the throttle ...a four stroke will wear your ass down in a hurry ..I raced bought for over 20 years
@christianturner8106
@christianturner8106 4 жыл бұрын
I mean..what about suspension? Hp? Prices? Guess i gotta go check other shootouts for that?
@parkerlackey1253
@parkerlackey1253 4 жыл бұрын
I'd kill to bring back the CR250
@AntiPattern328
@AntiPattern328 4 жыл бұрын
Nice shootout! Does Gas Gas have one? Their 4-strokes are killing it in the GP's this year. Contender for sure.
@damiangrisoli5592
@damiangrisoli5592 4 жыл бұрын
ngh yes owned by ktm for a year now.
@marklowe7431
@marklowe7431 3 жыл бұрын
We ride bikes for thrills right. Which one wraps it on?
@mandingo9594
@mandingo9594 4 жыл бұрын
Dont sherco make a 250 smoker ?
@paahtopro3950
@paahtopro3950 3 жыл бұрын
Not a motocrosser
@DieselNDirt_
@DieselNDirt_ 3 жыл бұрын
250 2 strokes sound the BEST when shredding against each other
@MrJames-dk3my
@MrJames-dk3my 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that not all companies sell the 2 stroke mx bike anymore.
@dangerdane8448
@dangerdane8448 4 жыл бұрын
For the 2021 2 stroke shootout you need to add the gasgas 250 tp the fleet along with other manufactors like sherco and beta to widen the field
@kellybrown6988
@kellybrown6988 3 жыл бұрын
Does sherco and beta even make motocross bikes?
@Toad_Moto
@Toad_Moto 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to own a two stroke. It's on my list
@braydonsnell8791
@braydonsnell8791 4 жыл бұрын
I own an 07 yz250 basically stock apart from an 18 in rear wheel and a gytr shorty pipe. It's the best bike I've ever owned. But i wouldnt mind one of those TM's :)
@howardwoods342
@howardwoods342 4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha for the win, best bike for anyone who is not a pro, which is most if us lol
@brianjohnson8616
@brianjohnson8616 4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna buy another new YZ250. Support the bike!
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