I ride a 4 stroke but I wear earbuds and listen to 2 stroke sounds so I don’t feel bad about it 😂
@nicholasott62685 жыл бұрын
haha
@patrickwood96874 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@moto15944 жыл бұрын
Braaaaaaap
@ryanasmar82424 жыл бұрын
Just get a two stroke lmao, they are cheaper
@elcincero3214 жыл бұрын
Come on lol
@SVTBansheeman5 жыл бұрын
It's not what you ride, it's that you ride.
@brianwilkins2311 Жыл бұрын
What kind of ktm is that your sitting on? I'm looking for the best ktm 2 stroke for trail riding... what do u recommend?
@sburgi3065 жыл бұрын
Blondes vs Brunettes, gotta ride em both to have a true appreciation.
@kingcrumpet4 жыл бұрын
No. Brunettes every time.
@ryanasmar82424 жыл бұрын
Damn good analogy
@nicown13374 жыл бұрын
this ^
@texlee16404 жыл бұрын
Don't forget those wild red heads from time to time as well
@nolangray434 жыл бұрын
@@texlee1640 those are the electric bikes
@beauhawk11464 жыл бұрын
4 stroke: A good single malt scotch 2 stroke: Wild Turkey 101
@noirxplorer31854 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Jaxson_riley4 ай бұрын
I’ll take the 2 stroke and wild turkey
@avega27923 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a 2 stroke to remind your neighborhood you’re still alive. #2strokesforlife
@dannylayne42272 жыл бұрын
Ahaha
@carter.coleman Жыл бұрын
To be fair, 4 strokes are louder
@purpteaa3223 Жыл бұрын
@@carter.coleman quite the opposite
@carter.coleman Жыл бұрын
@@purpteaa3223 no they are significantly louder, 2 strokes is just a more constant noise
@carter.coleman Жыл бұрын
@@purpteaa3223 and more high pitched
@jacksonbuck74814 жыл бұрын
Just get a 3-stroke mod and have the best of both worlds.
@jakobsandberg25854 жыл бұрын
Jackson Buck those are the best man!
@MattH1984 жыл бұрын
Like a rotary powered dirt bike? Where can I get one
@jacksonbuck74814 жыл бұрын
Wheels 4 life no. Just change the mapping on your ecu
@elijahcollier13854 жыл бұрын
Rotary motor
@Butters69Channel4 жыл бұрын
a 6 stroke has 2 power strokes. closest thing to 3 stroke.
@crjmoto5 жыл бұрын
Gotta have at least 1 of each - that's the secret
@austinn_61614 жыл бұрын
I wish I could lol
@brandonnewman10184 жыл бұрын
I want a 4 stroke for everyday easy riding and a 2 stroke for the harder or more intense rides. And run the guts out of it.
@KTMsoldier19885 жыл бұрын
If your making the noise of the bike your riding with your mouth while you ride then you know your on the bike for you!
@jasonrees60124 жыл бұрын
sooooooo true .millenian man
@mazitau26904 жыл бұрын
The sound of the 2 stroke is HYPNOTIC! It screams FUN! Music to my ears.
@marcialquinones56833 жыл бұрын
yes
@jrazjraz2 жыл бұрын
It does sound way better ...4 stroke sounds muffled and blah - to me anyway. Rin rin rin
@eduanmeyer24905 жыл бұрын
I feel that 2 strokes are more light, nimble and loose where 4 strokes are tight and heavy but very powerful. A 2 stroke is more fun on a trail for me because it feels free. 4 strokes have engine braking which some people prefer, but doesn't allow you to coast as much and requires partial throttle most of the time. Then most of all, the smell and sound of a 2 stroke is amazing with that big shiny pipe. 4 strokes though, they have presence with a big motor filling the frame and a large slip on pipe. Still, at the end of the day its all about personal preference.
@mansfd5 жыл бұрын
2 strokes are more forgiving when running them over any sort of jump where I find if I'm not perfect with the throttle running a thumper I tend to nose dive.... A lot!!
@nestserau5 жыл бұрын
It's about personal preference, but that's also about maintenance. I'm not afraid of valves, timing and all that stuff. I've figured this out a long time ago. But I often feel chained to my bike with all the maintenance. Why should I spend an hour checking valve clearance when there is a system which doesn't require checking and adjusting valves at all? Why should I spend my time changing oil that often when there is a system where the engine always works on fresh oil? Why should getting to the spark plug be that complex when there is a system where it's within your arm reach? Four strokes are the way to go for serious competition, but for us, hobby riders who don't have a mechanic fixing stuff for them, 2-stroke is the way to go.
@tcmx7124 жыл бұрын
@@mansfd I'm glad that someone else experiences that I've just switched to a 450 and unless I'm hard on the gas it nosedives whereas with the 2 banger if I'm tired i can coast and still send it
@mansfd4 жыл бұрын
@@tcmx712 I'm on a 300 XC-W and I will never go back to a thumper!!! :)
@tcmx7124 жыл бұрын
@@mansfd i used to have a 300exc before (from Aus) incredibly perfect for single trail and hills where i used to live but now i live in the north west of aus essentially desert riding so I got the 450. Just gotta get used to it haha
@jacoblevin85674 жыл бұрын
If i tell my wife that i want 2 stroke and 4 stroke, ill get 1 stroke .🤣
@snowrider44954 жыл бұрын
You should give your wife more strokes than that quick draw! Lol
@Jaxson_riley4 ай бұрын
Loooool
@alexgray20424 жыл бұрын
The less strokes the closer the thing is to running on pure explosion, like a rocket the original one strokes engine BbbRRRRRrrraaaaaappppp
@joshdury37354 жыл бұрын
Alex Gray I mean at least we aren’t paying £1,500 for a rebuild or more
@mixgashaulass29882 жыл бұрын
Ah yes thee original single stroke engine my favorite
@Armenhanmer3 жыл бұрын
I knew I was in the right place when he said "its a different type of tool"
@MR-044 жыл бұрын
2 Strokes for the Dirt 4 Stokes for the Street
@Ray-pg7wf3 жыл бұрын
2 strokes for both I’m in the Bronx nyc
@ryanoborn6024 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Kyle. Your style of presenting is great. Your perspective is upbeat and fun to listen to. Being a long time dirt bike rider (35 years worth) I love both. I can ride anything with 2 wheels and a motor and have fun. It is my opinion the 4T's excel in the faster terrain, sand, and moto tracks. The 2T's are better in tight twisties and knarly single track (like what you seem to ride the most). Years ago I had a 1998 KTM 380exc. It was great for most any terrain but was the best when I needed to do slow trail work. 4T's flame out easier, overheat easier, feel bigger, and wear you out sooner. However, they bring a big grin to my face when I roll deep into the throttle in open terrain. I can't get enough of the high revs. For that reason I tilt towards the big 4T's. I still run a 2008 KTM 505xcf. Maybe at some time in the future I can buy one of those $9k-$10k tpi 2T's if the wife will let me!! Keep the awesome vids coming! P.S. Most new riders just need to buy an old good condition Honda XR250 ride it for one full season and then go buy a newer 4T or 2T. Cracks me up when I see newer riders on some tight steep rocky single track trail trying to ride a newer 450 /250 4T motorcross bike wondering what is going on!
@kadinbahls43494 жыл бұрын
I ride both but I prefer the 2 stroke
@xXc-oz1ez3 жыл бұрын
@Mike T ?
@garthlundquist83165 жыл бұрын
Right on, Kyle! Having one ( or more!) of each is the best. Figure out what kind of terrain you like best and get the appropriate bike. Select the best tool for the job. For rough country the 2 stroke rules. Look at what the world’s best extreme enduro riders choose. For bigger loops, more open terrain, and faster speeds the 4 strokes rule because of more high speed stability and much longer fuel range. My favorite combo is a 300 2 stroke and a 500 4 stroke. Pretty much covers anything I want to ride. Thanks for sharing your informed opinions and beautiful riding venues. Cheers!
@motomorty71814 жыл бұрын
4 strokes speak to my soul but I will have both one day...350 and a 300 husky's
@Jaxson_riley4 ай бұрын
I want a 125 2 stroke. But my problem is I just can’t afford a bikw
@mke78764 жыл бұрын
Key is to have fun
@duncdunc764 жыл бұрын
Thank You So Much for finally settling my mind and finally giving me the the motivation to add a 2 stroke to my garage to keep my 4 stroke company. 😜
@kirknelson30205 жыл бұрын
4 strokes for the desert, 2 strokes for the hills.
@eugrules4 жыл бұрын
Ding Ding Ding, the correct answer. The right tool for the job. I have one of each. With that said, if I had to have just one. 2T.
@tobymozer74654 жыл бұрын
Witch one would work best to have a little fun on the road as well?
@bigseff234 жыл бұрын
Kx500 is ultimate desert weapon
@eugrules4 жыл бұрын
@@tobymozer7465 A 4stroke would be best but If you could get away with it in OZ, two stroke, especially one with a counterbalanced motor.
@superg80184 жыл бұрын
I love my CR500 for desert riding. Big bore 2-strokes rule!
@texlee16404 жыл бұрын
4-stroke for the wide open rides and for the times you need a plate to slab it to the next trail head. Two-strokes for those tight technical trails in the woods. You truly need one of each in order to have a tool for all jobs.
@jefferson94284 жыл бұрын
All about personal preference really The best bike for you is the one you enjoy riding
@rickymarkwalter8503 Жыл бұрын
You said it perfectly at the beginning . Your comparing DIRT BIKES and the key word is FUN ! It doesn't matter which one you prefer I dare you to NOT have FUN on either one ! Any bike you ride should and will put a smile ear to ear on ya face and that's what matters !!!
@Braselton214 жыл бұрын
Track - 4Stroke Trees - 2Stroke
@noirxplorer31854 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It's that simple. I tell everyone that.
@F32Jake4 жыл бұрын
But for youth racing 2 strokes take the lead🦶🏼
@dzugina4 жыл бұрын
yes but fuel consumption on 2T is horrible ......
@Jaxson_riley4 ай бұрын
@@F32Jakewell that’s true because they need smaller, lighter bikes,(like a 50cc) but need the power to race it so a 50 cc bike is great for youngsters
@garytonks11765 жыл бұрын
This one just made me smile. No truer words were said than your bike speaks to your soul😁😁😁
@noreaster41944 жыл бұрын
I have a craving for the vintage 80s-90s 2 stroke enduros with square lights
@Pbmaxx794 жыл бұрын
You literally said nothing to help a person who is trying to buy one or the other. We can’t all afford both. Not to mention you did not discuss the different types of maintenance. The reason you like a certain bike in a certain situation. Thanks for nothing. Sweet bikes though.
@JETZcorp4 жыл бұрын
He has 4 other videos about it, going into more detail. But not many people are making this choice logically. You've really got to dip your toe in both, by taking a rip on a buddy's bike or whatever, and decide what feels better to you.
@terrywilson13624 жыл бұрын
If you are a new rider get a 4 stroke, they have power but a 2 has a power band in it at a certain rpm the bike can almost be uncontrollable to a new rider, it's like flipping a nitrous oxide switch and boom you better hang on.
@JETZcorp4 жыл бұрын
@@terrywilson1362 SOME 2-strokes are obnoxious like that. A lot of them are not. I learned to ride on 2-strokes and didn't have a bike with a noticeable powerband hit until my 4th bike. If you get caught off-guard by a KDX-200, the 4-stroke will not save you either.
@noirxplorer31854 жыл бұрын
It's simple. If you ride rough technical terrain in tight woods a 2 stroke is your best friend. Open atv trails & desert is where the 4 stroke lives. I'm a tight woods technical guy. I'd never ride a 4 stroke in that. But I'd never have a 2 stroke dual sport. You have to learn how to ride them. I never have as much fun on a 4 stroke, but I grew up on them.
@jasonrees60124 жыл бұрын
@@terrywilson1362 you know powerbands are not parts .all combustion engines have them. it`s just a way of describing where your bike works best .the 4 strokes have a very broad powerband and a 2 stroke has a very narrow band width .where it works best *way up in the RPM`s " .
@ivanbabic81355 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle Brotherson PLEASE READ I really like you as a person because you are an inspiration to me and I spend all my time watching your videos because you put a lot of effort into making them I really think that you are a awesome guy. All I want is to have a ktm xc 250 or husky te300i but my mother would never let me ride a motorbike but when I am on my mountain bike I always emagen that it is a ktm xc 250 2stroke screaming down the road I have always liked motorbikes since little and still do especially dirt bikes and adventure bikes. just wanted to let you know that you are doing a great job with making your videos and rideing KEEP IT UP!!! #GREAT CONTENT.
@McNamEvan5 жыл бұрын
Work hard at school and with your hands. You can get a whatever you want when you make enough money to move out of mom's house.
@timdonnelly42702 жыл бұрын
I Absolutely agree 100% , And thats coming from a two and four stroke owner, I have always defined them as a wild bronco (2 smoke) and an elephant (4 stroke)
@bigblock4284 жыл бұрын
Exactly, when riding a 4 stroke it makes me feel like I am in the "BORED" room! 4 strokes are for when you want predictable, consistent, smooth riding. 2 strokes are for when you want exciting, adrenaline rushing OMG hold on for dear life let's do this till I run out of gas power! I have also ridden both quite a bit and I agree you need one of each to be really happy.
@2fly19744 жыл бұрын
I live in Colorado and ride the mountains. The 2 stroke is more fun for that type of riding cause it's lighter and can lug better down low but don't say a 250 2stroke will pull your arms off more than a 4stroke. I have a 2012 kx450f that I've ridden on the track and mountains and its too much power for most mountain rides where the 2stroke is lighter and quick but not quite as much power. You have to stay in the powerband on the 2stroke to be near what the 4stroke is tractoring to the ground all the time where if you don't modulate the throttle on a 4stroke it'll kick your ass
@mudaamoob4 жыл бұрын
When I had my 250 2015 Beta I tried KTM 450 from 2009. It was bullshit compared to 2 stroke. My 2 stroke was really snappy. However since 2012 with EFI KTM's its totally different story. I find 4 stroke faster so far and much better to ride with. I did a lap with KTM 2020 350 4T and then a lap with Beta 300 2 stroke... 4T all the way. Can't tell about tight single tracks.. I really can't find the excitement adrenaline rush in 2 stroke compared to 4 stroke. I want to ride smooth and stable and not to make mistakes. Yeah the noise and torque is nice but it won't make you ride better if it constantly skids around and makes it hard to ride. But thats what I feel like when I ride. I do not have any long experience with 4 stroke yet. Just test rides so far.
@bigblock4284 жыл бұрын
I was just having a bit of fun with my reply, like I said I have ridden both. I just prefer 2 strokes but when it is time to rebuild a motor the 2 strokes are less expensive. It really comes down to whatever you are used to riding and if you like it. Who cares what someone else says. Get out and have fun. 2 vs 4 will never be settled in my opinion.
@mudaamoob4 жыл бұрын
@@bigblock428 Yeah, just ride what you like and have fun.
@2fly19744 жыл бұрын
@@bigblock428 no your right...2strokes are fun and light while my 4stroke is heavier and you can be lazy on it but you open it up and watch out it's holy crap fast. I have a 99 kx250, 03 yz250 and a 18 GasGas xc250 along with my kx450. Obviously I lean towards 2strokes especially when it comes to rebuilds too...gotta have options!
@breakpoint41835 жыл бұрын
Which is best on the road and intermediate dirt trails ,as this is what terrain i will be riding on ...thank you
@nestserau5 жыл бұрын
Hands down a 4-stroke. Two-stroke is boring in such conditions.
@Jaxson_riley4 ай бұрын
Not true. For that case either will work but you’ll have better off the bay power and acceleration on a 2 strokw
@antonisloizou33565 жыл бұрын
Dear Kyle, i have to admit that I like your vids. Most worthy! I agree with all that you say. We all know that most bikes nowadays are worthy and capable but for me it's about longetivity and reliability. Because i own a 2007 ktm 450exc(which I adore) with 110.000kms on the clock and 2,144hrs with minor repairs. 2ts today have become complicated so someone who's considering on a 2t should think well ,concerning on maintenance!
@jakethelittlesnake62585 жыл бұрын
Two strokes are no more complicated than before really, I mean there is electric start, not that complicated, and fuel injection on select models. Really when you get into fuel Injection is not overly complicate either, and can make owning a two stroke easier for those people who don't like tuning a carb. And with offering from lectron, even carbureted bikes can go with little to no tuning. I can still do a top end rebuild on a modern two stroke easily in my garage with little to no experience and basic knowledge of how the engine works. Just the way I look at it though.
@nestserau5 жыл бұрын
@@jakethelittlesnake6258 Just skip the fuel injection models. The only reason they've appeared is Euro 4 regulation, which is non-sense for motorcycles anyhow, let alone enduro motorcycles. TPI is not beneficial for the rider and no way is it beneficial for the planet.
@jakethelittlesnake62585 жыл бұрын
@@nestserau yeah I agree, I was just pointing out the even fuel injection on a two stroke doesn't make them overly complicated.
@nestserau5 жыл бұрын
@@jakethelittlesnake6258 Maybe while it works, yes. But if it breaks down I've no idea what to do with it. I think TPI kills the whole idea of a 2-stroke, like being repairable by an average Joe on his lap. It's no longer the case.
@jakethelittlesnake62585 жыл бұрын
@@nestserau But what Im saying, unless you have a computer problem, fuel injection is not that hard to work on, its honestly really simple. I will agree adding more computers to something will complicate it but as far as being able to work on the anything else, having fuel injection isnt gonna make anything to much harder. and it still is a simple two stoke, just instead of a carb there is injectors there.
@koreyparent70935 жыл бұрын
Need one of each in CA - 4T for Dez, 2T for mountains. Simple solution
@davidjay433racing4 жыл бұрын
It’s like golf, right club for the task at hand.
@alexgray20424 жыл бұрын
Golf course 4 my, now we're talking.
@bornepic16264 жыл бұрын
Dont mix golf into this
@garypaisley4 жыл бұрын
The fact that you are giving away the 2-stroke bikes, but keeping the 4-strokers for yourself, speaks far louder than your words...
@DirtBikeChannel4 жыл бұрын
I don't keep any of the bikes long term. I didn't own the Beta, so I couldn't give that away. I'm giving away a 4 stroke here in 2020 :)
@nathrob24374 жыл бұрын
I find that long distance and travel is better with a 4 stroke but if you're riding on one track just having fun, 2 stroke all the way
@DadsDomain5 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a CRF450l and I love that bike but eventually I want a 250 two stroke bike as well. I'm just to the point where I want both vs trying to figure out which one is the best because neither one is the best at everything
@nestserau5 жыл бұрын
300 cc is probably is, will do everything you throw at it. Motocross, rally, hard enduro, it will do everything.
@GregHartSk8er5 жыл бұрын
You had to make a video about it? GOTTA be a 2 stroke! Raaaang tang tang tang - can't beat it. Just the pure rush of the sound of it is reason enough.
@demetriculbertson89914 жыл бұрын
4 stroke my way, but still like the 2 strokes cheaper to maintain and work on. But I can’t let go of my ktm. I’ll add a 2 smoker soon.
@ilikerealflight4 жыл бұрын
that clip at the end. That was shortly after the top end rebuild where the tolerances weren't right and the engine seized right after you let off wasn't it?? :)
@butterball14753 жыл бұрын
Yes
@topiaskossi4 жыл бұрын
4t bikes and 2t bikes are both awesome. We’re all riders and we should have fun and not argue
@natetroxell83675 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, gotta have em both!
@1MarkBevans5 жыл бұрын
Great analogy of the differences that I agree with wholeheartedly. I got 2 four strokes in the garage (Yamaha 250 & Beta 450) and 2 two strokes (Beta 300 & TE250i) Life’s short, gotta run with both styles of Bikes for riding in different areas. Great Video!!
@hoya48984 жыл бұрын
I have a CRF 150r right now and it’s my first bike. I’m 14, 5ft 8 inches and 125 pounds and need a bigger bike but i don’t know if I should get a 125 2 stroke or 250 4 stroke. I’m a ok rider but not a great rider . I ride track mostly and I don’t know what would be good for me. It would really help to get your opinion! Thanks!
@bjs0010014 жыл бұрын
You are totally right. It's all personal preference. For me it's that moment when your 2-stroke hits the power band and just takes off.
@Zx6rBlue5 жыл бұрын
Please review the new Yamaha Yz 125x, beta 200rr and husqvarna 150. Would love to hear your thoughts on the small bores!
@leep8145 жыл бұрын
Kyle doesn't seem to like small bores. He's reviewed a ktm 150 though.
@DirtBikeChannel5 жыл бұрын
I just got the 2020 Beta 200RR. That is next :)
@Zx6rBlue5 жыл бұрын
@@DirtBikeChannel fantastic! Looking forward to the videos
@jfuqua725 жыл бұрын
They require much more work to ride. Lots of shifting. I have raced and won championships on a KTM 150, but when I moved to a KTM 350, it was a game changer. I ride the 150 for fun and practice, but race the 350.
@Zx6rBlue5 жыл бұрын
@@jfuqua72 I have had my best results and most fun on a KTM 150, I struggled on a 300 4t. I love small bores, wouldn't go back! To me shifting and revving is all part of the fun.
@terrywilson13624 жыл бұрын
I feel like a 4 makes you be a better rider, getting use to the weight of the bike the clutch the power, a 2 you have that gigantic pipe in the front getting smashed every time you lay it down on that side, a 4 you're going to go further on a tank of gas less engine maintenance and it doesn't really cost that much to rebuild as often as you have to do it which depending on how you ride and take care of bike maybe once the whole time you own the bike, of course this is my opinion and I ride a 4 stroke, 2019 yz250fx
@niels34265 жыл бұрын
That was the best 2 stroke vs 4 stroke video i have seen.
@marklindquist88284 жыл бұрын
Just sold my KTM 300 went to a YZ450fx never going back to 2 strokes......
@vortexsophia3 жыл бұрын
Remember Scotty on Star Trek screaming "use the right tool for the right job!"? That... There's something to be said for big-bore 4-stroke racing and the wonder that is engine braking combined with extremely controllable throttle, and then there's lugging a gear higher when needed. Dealing with fast transitions from speed to rutted turns is its true calling. 4-strokes also allows for throttle based pitch control while airborne. Then there's the lightness of a 2-stroke in hard enduro to be able to coax that light bike through repositioning enroute. The 2-stroke feels like you can blast over an obstacle without as much mass to control, it just feels that way. Then you ping the rev-limiter on a 450MX bike down the straightaway and start to lean while chopping the throttle and the braking draws that rear out on that flat-track turn while the inside leg outriggers as you skid control squeezing the outside leg. Feels like a skidding a super downhill skidding turn. You need MX suspension for MX tracks, it's just that way. I have to explain why I have 3 bikes, because unfortunately I can't race and train everything on the one. It'd make life less complicated if I could.
@chipper2035 жыл бұрын
2 stroke for the gnar. 4 stroke for a hard dual sport. For me It’s a 500 exc for dual sport and a kdx 200 for gnar. I’m excited for this beta 200 review
@backwheelbandits2.05 жыл бұрын
Haha love the suit bit LMAO 🤣🤣🤣good video
@McNamEvan5 жыл бұрын
Nice suit and watch but the shoes dont do it for me. 2 strokes FTW
@DirtBikeChannel4 жыл бұрын
@@McNamEvan You don't like my 14 year old dress shoes!?
@McNamEvan4 жыл бұрын
@@DirtBikeChannel haha going through old comments? quarantine must be taking its toll. I'm just busting balls but 14 years is a long time. Polish those old girls and tellem thanks.
@bradrook39194 жыл бұрын
Im Old School, 59..Heros , Roger Decoster Brad Lackey, Tony Dee later Marty Smith. I thought Bob Hannah was a punk...; )... Raced my Brand New 1975 RM250 when I was 15, Its the smell and sound of the two stroke, In my day It was the only ride, Nowadays the stupid fart sound of the 4..Two strokes rule and awaken the senses of what the radical, sick, and twisted minds of Dirt Riders create and express when they are riding.. the power band of the 2 becomes a part of you..I still ride a KX500 but this body cant do it justice anymore...I have fun and thats the bottom line I know the advantages of the big 4s but I just love the smells and sound of my 2... just sayin
@trocomerlo5 жыл бұрын
So funny. A was a four-stroker and now I ride a 300 2t... The truth is that I sometimes miss my 4t and I sometimes don't. So if I could afford it, I'd have both.
@Mr10usdad3 жыл бұрын
The bottom line is that the 2 stroke puts a bigger smile on your face. Your type of riding is riding for fun like 99% of us. It is cheaper to work on as well.
@Mr10usdad3 жыл бұрын
@Massimo Hack two stroke race bikes are cheaper and easier to work on. Four stroke bikes like a Honda XR break down less. Four stroke race bikes are way more expensive to work on.
@Mr10usdad3 жыл бұрын
@Massimo Hack I have a 1995 CR250 and a 1986 CR125. Both have been totally restored and they are very reliable. I have to do very little on them.
@Andrey-ll8pe3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr10usdad damn dude time for an upgrade. And no bike is better it depends on what you’re doing 4t is a way better track bike, while the 2t the KTMs and Husqys at least are way better for enduro.
@Mr10usdad3 жыл бұрын
@@Andrey-ll8pe I ride for fun so two stroke is for me. If I race it would be a vintage two stroke class.
@DanielOliveiraSantos5 жыл бұрын
Hello, i'm thinking of getting a thermostat (getting low temps on my bike the way I ride, hard to get it higher than 60ºC) on my AJP PR5, but dont know how to do it.... Do I really need a Bypass line or just the thermostat will it burn the water pump without the bypass ? Wish someone can help me.
@antonisloizou33565 жыл бұрын
Use a brand name coolant and a radiator cap with higher pressure. This should work. Start with small single steps at a time.
@DanielOliveiraSantos5 жыл бұрын
Antonis Loizou my problem isn’t getting low temperatures, is that I can’t get higher temps, only idling fr 10 mins it gets to normal temperature....
@antonisloizou33565 жыл бұрын
Okay then you should go on coolant mixure and then on thermostat.
@antonisloizou33565 жыл бұрын
Check the owner's manual for specs
@baddazzriderturner33214 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and love it and I'm right there with you but I'm older so it's now 4 stroke for me the energy you put into a 2 is what you get out it a more symbiot relationship clutch work throttle work oh so important but satisfying,dont get old 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍
@5.7Hemi4x44 жыл бұрын
Which one is easier to maintain for someone with very little experience? last longer? easier for a beginner?
@Enrij4 жыл бұрын
2 stroke is easy to maintain. 4 stroke is easy to ride.
@Jaxson_riley4 ай бұрын
Not all of that is true. 2 strokes have less moving parts and tend to not need very much maintaining. Also tend to last longer. Also one is not easier than the other. A 125 2 stroke is the same size and power comparison to a 250 4 stroke. But 2 strokes are lighter and easier to maneuver and have far faster acceleration
@belanger.fran64 жыл бұрын
You look good, you feel good. You feel good, you ride good.
@danielb52152 жыл бұрын
How is this even a debate? A 4-stroke is for your car, a lawn mower or a V-twin. All you 4-stroke bike guys just need to admit that a 2-stroke scares you. That's the ONLY reason someone would choose a 4-stroke over a 2-stroke. One's like riding an elephant and the other's like jumping on the back of a mountain lion.
@curtjackson50014 жыл бұрын
Great video Kyle! You can't beat the sounds and smell of a two stroke!!!
I am about to turn 40 but Man I know the feeling. I can’t stop riding my 96 RM 250. I could definitely go out and buy another bike. But it’s still one of the sweetest bikes I have. now don’t get me wrong I’ve got a lot of money put in it but man I love it. I’ve had it for almost 13 years now. I have a 98 CR 500 and it’s fixed up really nice but I almost never ride it.
@bigboys1084 жыл бұрын
2 STROKES ARE THE DEEGANS 4 ARE ROAD BIKERS
@snowfreak5515 жыл бұрын
If you ride trails/hard enduro stuff you going to want to ride a 2T
@Rieju-Sherco5 жыл бұрын
I agree, the correct tool for the job!! I own fourteen two strokes, and ONE four stroke, KLX-450-R the four strokesare heavier, and there nothing like the older ones, like XR's
@Jaxson_riley4 ай бұрын
Would you consider selling one of your 2 strokes. I’ve been saving for years and just can’t find one in my price range. I want a 125 that will last me a few years at least that I don’t have to worry about tearing up 😂. But I don’t want to spend a whole lot. Anyway if you would consider it, please comment
@enlightenedidiot95524 жыл бұрын
If we're talking off-road, it's 2 strokes... period :)
@alexmotorlife4 жыл бұрын
I just about lost it at @6:58 hahaha Preferences to 2 strokes, buti do like some 4 stroke depending on application. Great video again Kyle!
@jakemaughan38185 жыл бұрын
There is only one way to solve this debate! Buy both of them, keep both of them, and love both of them :D
@Adventure4LifeCanada5 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%, I own two four strokes and one two stroke and I use them for different types of riding; however, my KX250 is the one that reminds me I'm still alive! That's why I like two strokes the most.
@killerballs Жыл бұрын
I ride a 2stroke myself and 4 strokes are like driving a bulky Cadillac when you want to be in something light and aggressive. 2strokes scream anarchy! Lol. I just uploaded my first trail ride to the pits on here actually. Was an awesome time.
@perrinayebarra5 жыл бұрын
If it doesn’t smoke it’s a joke.
@ZenDude655 жыл бұрын
I think if you road a 350XC with a recluse you might like it equally as good. its the flame out that really sucks. Thoughts?
@jsmith50925 жыл бұрын
Agreed, My last 3 bikes since 2012 have been a KTM 350xcf with a recluse. its the perfect bike for me.
@DirtBikeChannel5 жыл бұрын
I have owned 2 of them (KTM 350s) and have ridden more than a dozen bikes with Rekluse auto clutches. I'm not a fan of it.
@ZenDude654 жыл бұрын
@@DirtBikeChannel What is it about them you don't like? I don't want to waste my money if there bad.
@kamdaman4 жыл бұрын
I love riding my 2 stroke like the feeling more only problem i have is i mainly trail ride with my brother and dad and they both have 4 strokes so i can't ride as far as them because I run out of gas twice as fast
@717Chris3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to decide for my and my son 2 or 4 kawasaki kx or klx
@kamdaman3 жыл бұрын
@@717Chris I'd personally go with whatever you guys are comfortable with. For the gas with a 2 stroke u can always buy an aftermarket gas tank to hold a few more gallons and get a lot more out if a single ride if that's an issue for you like it was me.
@user-se7vt5ow4e4 ай бұрын
I am trying to decide now between the Beta 390 and or the Rieju 300 6 days bike. Decisions, decisions.
@trevor8664 жыл бұрын
2 stroke vs 4 stroke debate will never be settled. Here's the the secret. No one has enough time in their day to care about what you ride. And if they do they are often inconsolable elitists. Ride what's best for you and who gives a fuck about the rest.
@wv4life3755 жыл бұрын
First view first comment!!!! I needed this. 4 stroke 500exc now but thinking about a 2 stroke 300xcw.
@MrQueLastima5 жыл бұрын
I made the exact same swap about a month ago... except Husky versions. I absolutely loved my FE501 but it was a tank in tight singletrack. Still getting used to the TE300 but it's coming along.
@mew73005 жыл бұрын
I’ve never ridden a two stroke I like the idea of something lighter then I currently have I enjoy the features of the four stroke on 4 to 5 day overnight trips
@honda81924 жыл бұрын
Try one, you won’t go back
@jaretaustin144 жыл бұрын
@@honda8192 I tried one. Ill stick with my 4t. 2t was fun but I like the power of the 4t better. Not to mention Im not a big fan of the 2t sound
@Jaxson_riley4 ай бұрын
2 strokes are calling your name then bro. He’s right, once you try a 2 stroke, you’ll never want to ride a 4 stroke again
@JohnDoeEagle12 жыл бұрын
I'm a old school 2-stroke guy going back to the 1980s. I had a few 4-stroke bikes and a ATV for awhile and never really cared for them. Something about a Yamaha YZ 2-stroke that gets the blood pumping. If it wasn't for the EPA and dogooders 4-stroke dirt/motocross bikes wouldn't even exist. In 1998 the AMA started allowing 450cc 4-stroke bikes to compete against 250cc 2-stroke bikes. That should tell you something right there. On average a 2-stroke bike makes at least 30% more power of the same displacement 4-stroke bike. I can attest first hand to that when my 1980 Yamaha YZ80 "bumblebee" 80cc 2-stroke would lay the smack down on larger displacement 100cc and 125cc 4-stroke enduro or "trail bikes with ease. I haven't had a bike of any kind since 2008 when I sold my Harley road bike. I have been very temped and thinking about getting a newer 2-stroke Yamaha YZ-125 or a KTM 125 just to play around with and rip around on. I want a explosive power band that has instant power. When riding off-road and on dirt the last thing you want is a heavy and boggy 4-stroke dirt bike. Also the 2-strokes are far simpler with less parts and are both a lot easier and cheaper to fix than their 4-stroke equivalents.
@harrypeterson92872 жыл бұрын
There's really no way you can call modern 4 strokes boggy or heavy, the KTM 450s are making over 60 horsepower and weigh right around 220 pounds. That's 15 more horsepower, a wider powerband, a higher redline, a higher top speed and about the same weight as any modern 250 two stroke. People can try to babble about how I have twice the displacement of their 250 but it's hard to talk when they're eating my roost. Unless you get your hands on a 500 two stroke you'll never keep up with the 450s on any stock 2 stroke bike. Hell, the 450s even give the 500s a run for their money in drag races. Don't believe me just watch a few videos like "CR500 vs 450" or something like that.
@JohnDoeEagle12 жыл бұрын
@@harrypeterson9287 250cc vs a 450cc or a 500cc. How is your math?
@harrypeterson92872 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoeEagle1 Just look up CR500 vs KTM450. Even with a 50cc advantage the 2 stroke loses from start to finish to the 4 stroke. So much for being sluggish and heavy. My math is fine, better than your ability admit being wrong.
@JohnDoeEagle12 жыл бұрын
@@harrypeterson9287 50cc bigger? It's twice the size.....250cc bigger. I've rode my Cousin's late 90's Kawasaki KX-250 2-stroke before too so you aren't going to BS me. It was insanely fast and could pull the front wheel on acceleration very easily without even trying. Also in AMA in 1998 they legalized 250cc 2-strokes to compete against 450cc 4-strokes. That I know for sure and remember.
@JohnDoeEagle12 жыл бұрын
@@harrypeterson9287 Not to mention they sound like a wet ass farting on acceleration! 🤭🤪
@leep8145 жыл бұрын
Ride the bike that speaks to your soul
@SPCxRecon4 жыл бұрын
As long as you enjoy what you ride, dont hate but take that thing on a date
@nickwallens80514 жыл бұрын
What is better to put around on a 2 stroke for a 4 stroke
@hrbestalkinme36905 жыл бұрын
I wll never ever even consider owning a 4 stroke no matter what. Ever.
@lindstrom80225 жыл бұрын
Love this perspective in the neverending comparison between 2- and 4 stroke :)
@pauldayton52854 жыл бұрын
For me , KTM 450SXF & I couldn't be happier. After riding this bike my desires to ride anything else died.
@austinleach32294 жыл бұрын
I think what your saying is... for the terrain you personally ride and have fun in the 2 stroke fits the bill like most of us off road riders. The 4 stroke is a bit gurthy and extra for tight single track. It has its purpose in flat out open 5th gear terrain, high elevation the big bike suits terrain that needs more power. Here in Colorado when I’m up at 11,000 plus feet I wish I had a tuned up 450 4 stroke because of the power loss and change in elevation (no jetting) in the long run you should own both because you can ride whatever 1 accordingly
@spilttaco33434 жыл бұрын
Two strokes acceleration is higher and is enjoyable to listen too. There, the debate is over.
@UTPP4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about getting a 3 stroke....
@alexgray20424 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to get a long extension cord for the bigger trips,
@jackassadv94784 жыл бұрын
What the hell, why are you ignoring the superiority of the 3-stroke motorcycle??? Best of both worlds combining fuel efficiency AND lightweight, peppy power.
@chickenfilm97244 жыл бұрын
It’s simple... if you race get a 2 stroke but if your just in ur back yard having fun then get a 4 stroke. Personally I prefer 4 stoke. Does not have the feeling I might die.
@jacobfreese18103 жыл бұрын
I love them both. 4 strokes are smooth and have good power but are harder to control and keep momentum in the tight stuff. The engine braking makes woods riding much more intensive with braking and clutching and shifting. The 2 stroke is quicker in the tight stuff and the front end feels lighter and is easier to loft over logs and rocks. That said it's all preference, though I feel more people ride 4 strokes because there's more of them on the market and they would actually be faster on a 2 stroke. Yes, it does come down to skill though because your top gncc riders are blasting away and hauling ass on 4 strokes. If your a straight enduro guy you can't beat a 2 stroke for its luggability and flickability. If you're a trail rider and speed in all areas doesn't matter it's sort of a toss up to me. Motocross riding the 4 stroke is clearly more stable and has more tractable power.
@supraanon19145 жыл бұрын
Well look at Ronnie Mac has to be a 250cc 2 smoker 1996 😂
@wirth3155 жыл бұрын
No perfect bike between 2 Smoke or 4 Stroke... Therefore, you have to have both, or multiples of both. :-)
@danielrelph68784 жыл бұрын
Two strokes are easier to ride in tight stuff at least the smaller displacement bikes are . A 450 is an open bike just like a 500 two stroke is and they are harder to ride in tight stuff as well. In low traction situations dry hardpack flat corners i prefer the 4 stroke. Sand and loam the two stroke gets on top of way better 4 strokes plow in soft stuff.
@tyler37322 жыл бұрын
I love both,if I could choose 1 it would be 4 stroke,but 2 stroke so god dam fun
@charleshorseman553 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved your performance in Lord of the Rings!
@seanpotter49434 жыл бұрын
Biggest thing people need to understand is buyers in market looking for 6/7 year old bikes ... If I was to buy new I'd go 4 stroke simply because the new technology in them... 6/7 year old market ( which I'm in) wouldn't touch a 4 stroke
@nor_cal_trailrides99904 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 Husky FE350 and just picked up a 2020 Beta 200rr. I already have this internal struggle going on about which one to ride. Other people don't seem to get it. It's about picking the right tool for the job. I don't throw out my Crescent wrench because I got a shiny new pair of vise grips
@PrimalEnduro5 жыл бұрын
It just comes down to the right tool for the job. Some jobs you want a sledge hammer, other times you need a scalpel.
@DVJam10 ай бұрын
2 strokes are fun, but 4 strokes are fun and smoke the 2 strokes.