Rain Wrecks the Field at Daytona | Door Bumper Clear

[@stormwarnings7909]

As a former NASCAR certified track safety worker who spent more than 20 years on tracks in a safety truck, I can tell you with complete certainty that the safety truck in turn one would have called out rain the second it hit the windshield. Now what NASCAR does with that information is another thing entirely but, rest assured turn one fire alerted at the tower that they had rain on their windshield!

[@Weezy10580]

Of course. Nascar screws up per usual

[@nothinghere7391]

The problem is that the Truck is deep inside the track. The rain would hit the racing surface before hitting the safety truck. The only way NASCAR could've prevented this mess would be if they had weather spotters/censors outside the track

[@Kenadams240]

@@nothinghere7391 correct, the rain came from the behind the grandstands. On the turn one side. Thousands of fans in the grandstands were getting rained on first and then it moved onto the track. Bottom line, NASCAR screwed up bad

[@ScottXC91]

I think that’s kind of exactly the point that’s being made here. We all know the person on the ground would of course make the right call. Whether that person’s information is ignored, doesn’t reach the tower fast enough, doesn’t reach the tower at all, or if that person even exists in the first place, is exactly all the things that NASCAR could do better.

[@gregbayne6229]

@@nothinghere7391 ?🤷🏻‍♂️

[@iKaresaboutNASCAR]

It's also amazing how Nascar tries to avoid controversy and ends up creating more

[@oneslave3318]

If Hendrick put a hand grenade in Kyles car for a race that could not help him win the Championship so he was not hurt or killed at Daytona and could stay healthy, they were real smart.

[@DerrickRG]

@@oneslave3318 WTF are you even saying.

[@kentuckyblugrass]

Stewart answered this several years ago.... "If we haven't crashed at least 50% of the field by the end of the race....we need to extend the race until we have"

[@OverlandOne]

The TV cameras in that turn had water drops on them that could be easily seen the lap before when they went through there.

[@andybiz4273]

Completely agree, NASCAR has dropped the ball when it comes to races and rain, the past few years especially.

[@rileyfair5]

Imagine having a 3 hour sport that has to always be delayed hours to rain. When its barely raining. You take the risk. Or call the race and whos eveer in front at the time wins and drivers can't complain

[@markpatterson2507]

Time and time again.......

[@billebner9185]

At the f1 race in Sochi a couple of years ago, several of the teams put people in boats and sent them miles out into the Black Sea for exactly that. Teams had several minutes of warning before the rain hit. Granted the race in the rain but its the same principle..Nascar fell way short on this one

[@johngreen1945]

If rain wrecks the field…is it still Ross Chastain’s fault?

[@marlinmealer6506]

Just another spot in the Ross Chastain don't give a F*CK tour

[@Stevonoles1]

Yes, they call it being Chastrained!

[@chrisiglehart]

Best comment so far.

[@VKED23]

Yes

[@wxracer23]

Chast-rained

[@combatwombat594]

I work at about 3 tracks myself, some of the middle name dirt tracks in the northeast. And I can tell you right now, we CAN NOT make this kind of mistake. We WON'T make this kind of mistake at ANY of the tracks I work at. This is a safety issue, and there is absolutely NO excuse for something like this...

[@michaelhamilton3778]

Rain didn’t wreck the field at Daytona. NASCAR DID! The rain just helped it along.

[@Kenadams240]

I was at the race, it was raining in turn one for minutes. It’s obvious that there was NO SPOTTER IN TURN ONE PERIOD. It was raining heavily while the cars were just entering turn 3. There was PLENTY OF TIME

[@gregbayne6229]

Thank you👍🏻

[@TerryWilsonModels]

Here is an idea, how about moving the race back to july 4th instead of having it in the middle of Florida's rain season...

[@dennypugh7801]

Totally agree....

[@johnhaas2523]

The city of Daytona doesn't want it that weekend

[@TerryWilsonModels]

@@johnhaas2523 why? They have had it on that weekend for years.

[@AM-tu1rc]

@@TerryWilsonModels They have tourism on that weekend anyway. Moving the race to a different date gets them tourism again on a different date instead of clumping it all in one date.

[@TheForeverRanger]

Even running it on July 4th you run into rain issues. NASCAR needs to have the authority from the networks to move the races earlier in these situations IF there is a possibility that you can get the race in before the rain starts.

[@JustinNeil88Outdoorsman]

I love every word and advice they are saying. Nascar corporation executives are truly killing the sport many of us love. Kinda wish they would bring back the old Drivers Union like Richard Petty started way back when.

[@mackelby1]

Have been for years. Jr. needs to start his own series

[@adamwarren1918]

You are coming to this conclusion now? Big nascar stopped listening to fans back in 2000. I haven’t watched a full race since 2006. If any of you are shocked about what happened all I can say is welcome to the party. A lot of fans left years ago.

[@mackelby1]

@@adamwarren1918 I left when they stole a championship from Edwards.

[@JustinNeil88Outdoorsman]

@Adam Warren who said I'm just now coming to this conclusion? Sour much? What, I can't give my opinion years later. Move on troll baby boomer.

[@oneslave3318]

We used to have a driver named Dale something that was a pretty good driver. I used to attend a lot of races at Daytona. NASCAR used to pull this Dale guy that drove a black car out of the pack and have him make a few laps at speed and tell them the track condition before they would drop the green. I don't know what Dale is doing now but NASCAR could sure use his expertise again.

[@laythap784]

I was at the race and it was raining where I was sitting 2 laps before the big one. We all got scared and new everyone was going to wreck.

[@ae43ro]

If you knew that, why didn't Nascar know?

[@sethfowlkes6297]

Scared??? That’s why I don’t come anymore. This sport collapsed 10-15 years ago.

[@kenhigdon1123]

@@ae43ro They did

[@TheRednecksolder]

@@sethfowlkes6297 like they said, they're doing a buck 80 around most of that track and people die at daytona. That's a reason to worry about rain on the track, plus its been well documented how hard the next gen is on the driver when they wreck.

[@thegreattreon0177]

I saw the rain on the upper right corner of the onboard camera when the cars were going thru the tri-oval and then quickly changed camera angles hoping no one saw it on tv and as soon as the cars broke loose I yelled out damn it NASCAR the track is wet!

[@bworm7152]

let's not forget they still had all day to hopefully get the race in. they could have red flagged the race and said we will try to get this in if weather allows. Daytona also has lights. it was ridiculous. for me personally I enjoyed watching it, but they allowed the wreck which puts drivers safety in jeopardy, and I'd love to know how much money was lost in that wreck.

[@longjohn526]

Dale Jr was noting on TV during the Xfinity race that as a owner you probably should plan on having all your cars being wrecked at Daytona and planning your budget around it. I think pretty much all the Junior Motorsports Xfinity cars did get wrecked too

[@kendallsmith7594]

The meteorologist idea in house is a great idea

[@chadfaulkner3600]

I believe it was at pocono back in 1996. They had a local meteorologist at the track watching 2 different storms headed at them.

[@jamiethornton6101]

It's just common sense. When you can see a sheet of rain right behind the grandstands, it doesn't take a genius to figure out it's probably going to be raining on the track soon. Also the radar. There were red and yellow cells all around the track. It makes me think they wanted the wreck for ratings.

[@wingracer1614]

Just a note, people die at Martinsville too. Richie Evans and Charlie Jarzombeck being the most notable examples. Granted those were modifieds before safer barriers and HANS devices but it can still happen

[@therealnynetynyne360]

Loved that orange hot rod rip richie

[@WweJth]

Just because you couldn't predict it, doesn't mean you couldn't prepare for it. Because the big, dark, black raincloud where the rain came from was hovering over and around Turn 1 for about 20-25 minutes before it rained. I could have come up with a plan in that timespan, why couldn't NASCAR?

[@odnamsrazor2364]

because Brain France wasn't the only fvcking moron ruining Nascar.

[@bryonkidder6199]

All the tears from these Spotters could bring out the caution right now...lol

[@bluegrass2368]

If Bubba was leading at that last red flag for rain, Nascar would have thrown the checkers

[@DerrickRG]

Yep.

[@ChampaBayBeast]

I will tell you this, I was in Section 137 and it was raining the lap before and a giant cloud over our head for a solid 10 laps before it hit.

[@chrisrogers3175]

How hard is it to have someone in each corner of the track

[@MrSheckstr]

Moral when responding to criticism over actions taken/ not taken, don’t say something that just going to obviously open you up to further criticism.

[@hillbillyreactions]

Keegan Lehey may be available. He's a meteorologist and an iRacing Coca Cola series Champion..lol

[@DerrickRG]

NASCAR loved that wreck. The perfect 'big one' to use in their Daytona 500 commercials for 2023.

[@DewkChronic]

Is it time for a tire with a groove or 3 grooves in the tread? a tire they could use on an oval in light rain.

[@Stevonoles1]

Imagine if they called it before it actually rained, and then when it did rain, and it was a wash out and the race was called? So the "winner" would have been a guy in the lead even though it was not raining at the time the caution was thrown.

[@tamaramaule6928]

there was a fox helicopter flying over the track the entire race. It was raining in lap 10, it was raining 5 laps prior to the big crash. The rain clouds came from the west as well as the east.

[@eldinacampbell5082]

I was there and could see the rain coming, could have went to yellow laps before the wreck, I call BS

[@Chiefdixon]

They watched the rain coming in on radar. They could see the clouds coming in. What else could they have done COME ON MAN!

[@bigorange2082]

You could see the dark purple clouds on the broadcast. I was surprised they hadn’t went under caution.

[@alacran1986]

They used to have track spotters everywhere in 76 signs. That is not good to hear they only have a few. What about the safety crew? NASCAR has more safety crew and track dryer people than track spotters.

[@TheJTTaylor000]

I sat and watched a live video from a helicopter flying over the track looking back at large section of heavy rain about a half-mile outside turn 1. before they ever went to green.

[@steveperyer4850]

You guys are spot on, in what NASCAR didn’t do, and caused what could have been a real bad wreck where people could have been killed. They are always chest pumping themselves on safety, and nothing in racing is completely safe, but they have problems being safe in a weather situation, the tire/wheel situation, and the safety in the new car. Those things need to be addressed NOW, and not after somebody dies because of them

[@johnhaas2523]

Everything about Daytona and Talladega is entertainment and that's also the reason Marcus Smith did Atlanta the way he did and his potential going to do Texas the same

[@DerrickRG]

@@johnhaas2523 You're clueless.

[@johnhaas2523]

@@DerrickRG no I'm not You're uneducated cuz you don't want to believe it's about entertainment

[@chrisfoxwell4128]

Obviously during the race it needs to be called when it starts raining. It's not 1950, they've got detailed color 3d maps of storm systems that anyone with a computer can see: no meteorologist needed. But, any entertainment or tourist activity can't be allowed to be skittish about rain. While sometimes there's no chance a storm settles in over an area, most of the time it's going to be moving through so if there's a chance for having mostly decent weather you don't turn people away on a maybe. And, once prince are there you've payed staff so if you don't have to pay staff another day you're going to try to get it done the first time.

[@garywaters2563]

Lighting holds now you want to do a rain hold? How big you want that circle to be😂😂 spot off!!

[@ScottXC91]

I’m SO glad they mentioned the fan video. I’m the first person to jump on the disagree-with-Brett bandwagon. But he’s spot on here. Literally every single thing he said.

[@WRLeGrand]

Except for stop the race if rain is a quarter mile away. That might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Literally you might not ever race at Daytona if you do that.

[@Zalphabetlore1974]

I was sitting in Alabama looking at the radar and I knew it was about to rain really hard on the west side of the track.

[@lucky-rowe2623]

But we wouldn't have that big crash that could be broadcast on the nightly news... Come on Man!

[@TheFOHMan]

Thanks for beeping the "foul mouth spotters" T. J. had some class good for him. Brett talked all over Casey rude and crude!

[@SargentEdgedTools]

What am I missing? Watched nascar for decades and seems like the broadcasts always had weather reports?! Right? I don't understand what's going on here.

[@johnhaas2523]

If you go on Twitter there is a guy or two that do provide the weather

[@michaellawrence2706]

These guys are THE best Nascar pundits. Everyone else I can think of is a NASCAR brown nosed..

[@RedWingsninetyone]

Last year it rained at MIS for about 3 laps before NASCAR threw the caution. Luckily nothing happened to the cars, but still.

[@shawndeck136]

I was out front of the track picking up the campers that were there on display That rain did not sprinkle it just came a downpour all at once With no warning

[@moparedtn]

This fella may have valid points, but he's hard as hell to listen to and is quite abrasive to boot. Dude needs some 420 action.

[@johnvandeventer8668]

They actually gave some great ideas

[@jakeurban8963]

What about using some type of rain sensors around the track. In current vehicles they have the technology to automatically turn windshield wipers in on when senses rain. And automatically turn off is no rain. Could have multiple sensors around the entire track. Maybe?

[@jimmyjolly4184]

They could get enough people to be rain spotters for the price of a race ticket in every turn at Daytona

[@petemorris9751]

Here’s my question… How many highlights did that crash make? All I’ve seen is thumbnails on highlight videos that show the mayhem. Was this done on purpose because the “Big One” generates more clicks/online views/ratings than being safety cautious and stoping the race? I think NASCAR wanted the highlight to add additional drama and storylines to the final regular season race.

[@johnhaas2523]

Of course although I don't think NASCAR wanted the big one to be that big or at that point of the race

[@DerrickRG]

Exactly.

[@DerrickRG]

@@johnhaas2523 NASCAR doesn't care about the product.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

I’ll try to “Be Kind” (like Casey’s shirt) about this situation… It’s unfortunate that some drivers, teams, and even fans say it was raining 1 lap before the crash. Very unacceptable to see NASCAR continue to let them race in the rain at Daytona. Unfortunately, they never learn. They still continue to prefer manufactured entertainment over driver’s safety. Oh and NASCAR doesn’t care about race teams as well. It’s going to take a popular driver to get hurt from a crash for them to do something. If an oval race is raining, it takes common sense to red flag the race immediately when it rains right away. At this point, just FIRE the officiation and the current management and hire better ones that know a clue and give a darn on how Motorsports work. NASCAR can’t continue to be an embarrassing circus. Thank you, have a great day

[@johnvandeventer8668]

Do you think they gave some great ideas?

[@samb198055]

Florida has sunshine rain 🌧 it's very hard to if not impossible to predict

[@tommybounds3220]

Thank you for the video

[@erikrenner]

You can hire me to be a “NASCAR Rain Spotter”.

[@mackelby1]

NASCAR hasn't deserved props in years

[@kevinshull7761]

Why dot they just set cameras up outside the track that are tied in to a central station that send a warning of rain.

[@caseynicholson9190]

The first HUGE mistake was having a race at Daytona in the middle of hurricane season. Folks, I live in Jax and it rains here EVERYDAY this time of year. Its raining right now with tornado warnings. It rained yesterday...IT RAINS EVERYDAY. This time of year here in Florida you can safely bet you hose that its going to rain. If your going to race at Daytona during hurricane season you start the race at 9pm. Thats the safest time of the day this time of year for no rain and even then it isnt a sure bet.

[@TheForeverRanger]

You would think NASCAR would have learned some things by now after 50 years of running races in Florida but nope.

[@bigyodatheman]

It's Florida people. This literally happens every day here. Rain doesn't have to "travel" here, the skies can just flat out open up in a random spot without warning.

[@racebowtie1]

The only problem with stopping the race before it’s raining on the track is it will eventually create controversy too. The only way nascar could do that is if they came up with a policy that said they would restart the race even if it was the next day, that or have a time limit like hey rain is 15 min away we are stopping the race in 10 min this is your warning.

[@dakotasheets8939]

Well all the leaders crashed and they still got the track dried and finished the race. So why not throw the caution. And finish the race later like they said

[@terrygarvin1980]

If nascar was still run by racers that would be a great start.

[@rainiernqc]

3:03 - Another crash in the studio! MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP IMPLICATIONS That was a said when they release the footage of that guy talking in the booth: "Really? 2022 And you guys don't have the technology? Technology: Put a spotter every 200m outside of the circuit to tell you if it's raining or not" NASCAR + bad officiating = name a "better" combo

[@jamesburroughs3813]

As a recently graduated graduate student in meteorology looking for a job, I offer my services to NASCAR whenever they want lol. I'd be happy to help this situation!

[@stephenstrader9284]

Meteorology Ph.D. here. Hire me Nascar.

[@darylb5564]

The moment it started to rain the yellow should have gone out and the field frozen. NASCAR has video evidence of the moment they dropped the ball. There’s no reason for them to be unable to understand who should have been awarded the win.

[@michaelfleming5999]

And Nascar said they were looking into ways to fix the problem of not throwing the yellow flag when it's raining or there is rain on the track loosing that many cars and putting drivers lives in danger is not an option

[@oldermusiclover]

question are there such things as Rain sensors. if so why not put them around the track and have them plugged into the tower. as soon as one gets wet the yellow flag goes out. or throw out the yellow flag early and park everyone till the rain goes away.

[@mattrzewnicki6343]

Oh, one other thing. Put a bunch of rain detectors that can send a signal to race control that it's raining. It would be real time data.

[@GhostCob]

Been a nascar fan for a long time. I have to say NASCAR is making harder to watch year by year and now week to week. What a shame. Blessings from Gettysburg Pa…

[@sunshinecoolwater9528]

NASCAR has become complacent. They have placed entertainment over safety. Nothing will change until a popular driver like Chase Elliott gets seriously injured or killed. The new car isn't safe - the drivers know it, the fans know it and NASCAR knows it.

[@Kenadams240]

Yep, head and neck restraints did not become mandatory until Dales fatal accident at Daytona.

[@joeforestandi478]

If they didn't have a spotter in turn 1 I guess they would never know if there was debris for a caution either. But they will say there was.

[@johnhaas2523]

They would know just scanning the radio for team communications

[@joeforestandi478]

@@johnhaas2523 yup

[@DavidJohnson-hg1mz]

I was at the New Hampshire race. Everyone in turn one started covering their heads at least 5-10 seconds before the cars got there. Smaller track so dunno how much of a difference it would’ve made, but if I knew the caution should be on, how didn’t the officials?

[@sandymclean5760]

Nascar can't trust the drivers and spotters because they do tell a little bit of lies. It's getting harder every week to watch Nascar

[@therealnynetynyne360]

I subbed here for the dale Jr podcast not to hear some whiny spotter piss and moan weekly about how bad nascar is doing "thing". Dude sounds like a fkn Portland antifa sitter complaining about fascism

[@justinstein4712]

NASCAR should’ve waved off the restart with 26 laps left in the race and red flag 🚩 the race so that 🌧wreck wouldn’t even had happen

[@mikesowell7969]

Brett likes The Morning Drive Show on SiriusXM NASCAR radio. He said another show sucks. Is he talking about the Tradin’ Paint Show with John Roberts & Chocolate Myers or the SiriusXM Speed Show with Dave Moody? Tell us Brett! 🤣

[@longjohn526]

You could probably cut a deal with a local TV station to provide their weather person for free just for the advertising/bragging rights .....

[@miketwotwenty]

Yeah that rain wreck was crazy! I agree they could of done something! If that wreck did not happen Austin Dillion would not of won that race!

[@oneslave3318]

If idiots could fly, Daytona would be the worlds biggest airport.

[@joeforestandi478]

I am so sick of nascar I can puke!! I'm one of the old diehards but have really lost interest. They can call a mystery yellow with 3 laps to go for that TV ratings finish. Maybe a hotdog wrapper??? But when the driver's safety is at risk they look the other way.

[@johna4066]

KyB said it wasn't raining the lap before half way in turn 1 and 2 was completely dry & sunny

[@DerrickRG]

Nobody cares what he says.

[@joshandkorinna]

Lol rain sensors are like 10 bucks. Honestly a few of those around the outside of the track is the answer. Soon as they detect rain, go yellow.

[@darrellschenk1442]

GM had a rain sensor in an 1958 concept car

[@jabber1990]

I wonder if the show Freddie is talking about...is the show with Chocolate Myers

[@mattrzewnicki6343]

There was an onboard shot the lap before that showed the rain hitting the car. NASCAR had more than a lap to figure it out.

[@ImpulseColt]

If you where going to sit for 3+ hrs for rain why was that lap so important

[@dannydean3024]

The fact that NASCAR is still “plate racing” means they don’t care about safety at Daytona

[@bigrooster6893]

It’s very easy for them to install sensors in the asphalt on these tracks that anytime a raindrop hits the track it alerts the officials.

[@therealnynetynyne360]

Yes install sensors that don't exist that would handle the forces of the cars, not to mention having to tear up the racing surface to install these magical sensors.

[@MichaelEarnedIt-19]

No. It was ignorance. I think saying we could of not done anything was a stupid and completely ignorant. They just want avoid accepting responsibility. This is just sad.

[@Bak3dGamingYT]

I was sitting at home watching radar omega(professional weather app) and I could see it was going to hit any second and fans could see it the lap before in the stands

[@lmthembu9865]

I Like Freddie Kraft's hat

[@mattj6676]

Every car on the track has a camera mounted to its roof, you don't even need track spotters, just watch the feeds from the cars. You can't trust the team spotters, they always call for rain if it helps their guy, or call for debris when it helps their guy, so it's not surprising that NASCAR wouldn't trust them. But just watch the roof cameras, you can see when water hits them.

[@jamieday6602]

NASCAR never takes responsibility for their screw ups and bad calls! That will never change! They don't pay for all of the wrecked cars! That's why,wrecks are good for TV ratings! So glad I know longer watch races, I only follow the after race stuff!

[@johnhaas2523]

They don't want a cake responsibility because that goes against sports entertainment

[@libertarianman69]

Radar?

[@castandblast1852]

Why not just have a rule like lightning- if it is raining without a certain distance- postpone until conditions are better.

[@bigyodatheman]

You will never finish another race at Daytona if you implement that rule.

[@joshuamessenger]

One lightning strike within 8 miles of the track and they have to red flag for 30 minutes. Make a similar ruling with rain in the immediate area.

[@viviancoogler6576]

Hello my friend. My grandfather was a great caller at citrus race way.he had everyone of us in every curef and we had a ambulance and fire truck at the race . And we have a duty sheriff that is stationed at the airport every shift. And if there is rain at the airport he radio s the fire truck and ambulance at the race track. And they call the race till they get a clearance . Sincerely yours MR vivian V coogler Brooksville Fla 34601

[@iKaresaboutNASCAR]

It was crazy to be there in person and watch them run into turn 1 and all three leaders wrecked at the same time. Been to a ton of races at Daytona and I've just never seen something so crazy. We all knew it was coming. Getting kind of hard to defend NASCAR.

[@NoBodyMakesMeBleedMyOwnBlood]

Austin Dillon’s win should have an * since he had no competition and he almost wrecked Cindric

[@ThatDamnDoughboy]

NASCAR doesn't have a meteorologist? Like... for real?

[@johnhaas2523]

If you thought NASCAR actually had a meteorologist as a employee your crazy.

[@jimmyjolly4184]

NASCARs leadership can't walk a chew bubblegum at the same time