How to color a chiasm in your Bible (The Genesis Flood)

[@loudogg73]

Fascinating. I never realized this massive chiasm existed.

[@trishahamrick7062]

I would love to see more of this type of content. I didn't even know what a "Chiasm" was, now I would love to know more!

[@1334cass]

Same here!!

[@jmckasyru]

Once I heard of chiasms throughout the Gospel of John. I searched on the Internet and found a trace of it with the macro- and micro-chaisms woven throughout John's Gospel. The macro zeroed into the resurrection of Lazarus. To me, this would seem to communicate to the reader that if you trust in Christ (being the purpose of the book as mentioned near the end), then you too can experience a personal resurrection, albeit a spiritual one of the new birth, as in the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus in John 3. Furthermore, you may search the Internet for explanations and more examples of biblical chiasms.

[@ChrisRoyland]

Yes romans chiasm pls

[@suanach]

I 21st that request ... minus the jazz music please!!!😣🙉

[@aPLOTTERnamedKARL]

Despite our denominational differences, you had me at the thumbnail! (You're a Prismacolor guy while I'm a faithful Faber-Castell Polychromos girl). Content involving art supplies+literary devices isn't an especially crowded corner of the internet... so another vote for more of this kind of thing. There are some macro-chiasms out there that could keep my pencil sharpener very busy. Thanks, JM. Loved this.

[@vanessaboman8143]

Lol... I heard prisma color and then saw your post I have both set of the pencils so I am excited to use them both in my new bible lol...

[@sdesoto]

What are the denominational differences? Thank you 🙏

[@sdesoto]

Took me a sec to figure it out -

[@debrahorst8154]

Yes, would like to see Romans' chiasm and more content like this. Thank you for sharing the Genesis Flood chiasm.

[@cynthiagraven3343]

Yes! More chiasms please!

[@LookinUp_]

I had never heard of a chiasm before, this is really cool and just highlights even more how beautiful scripture is. More of these videos would be awesome, maybe you could do a series!

[@IndianaJoe0321]

This was fantastic! Yes, we would love to see you do this with Romans 9 thru 11, as well as other larger parts of the biblical text!

[@amptown1]

Ooooh yes please do the Romans one with us too.

[@DaniqueBrew]

Yes would love to see more!! Thank you for this great idea, I was looking for a easy way to visualize chiasm before. Using color seems very intuitive!

[@lisabeth777]

I have never heard of a chiasm, but I found this video really interesting! Thank you for sharing 😊

[@theryanmark]

I've studied theology a lot. And I've never heard of a chiasm, what a beautiful way to be introduced to one. Thank you!

[@artjournalsco5096]

Would love to see more, totally geeking out right now ☺️

[@ElmerEscoto]

Thanks for this! I also use the Prismacolor pencils to mark my Bible(s), I really like that they are soft and leave a mark without adding pressure to the thin pages, do not bleed and are *very* pigmented. I underline, sometimes draw a square, and to write for margin notes I use the Pigma Microns. I was also in Matthew 27 where there are at least four chiasms. And of course, there are so many in the Psalms. Can't wait to see Romans! Thanks for your work, brother.

[@carmennooner2027]

My brain just exploded! I vaguely remember this from perhaps Chuck Missler? I honestly don't remember, but this sounds like something he would have talked about. I'm not very good at recognizing patterns, so finding chiasms would be impossible for me to do. Now that I have seen what you are doing, I am definitely going to start the video over and copy this example for my main Bible. This is amazing and I would definitely appreciate more of these, please.

[@ShaneZettelmier]

I like that description and I thought dojo school we know that we get it but when you bring the sparring aspect into it. It’s more than just learning it’s open discussion and debate. I like it. Honestly, when I started watching this video, I thought always gonna tell us dojo means school and this is a Bible school and that’s really neat but kind of not worth, making a whole video over but I really like the way you said that and the sparring aspect of it it’s not just studying the Bible. It’s kind of using a verbal debate to practice it to it which is how we learn to apply naturally building knowledge version of muscle memory, like when you train a move over and over and over it because natural to you because you’re exercising it and making it part of you. That’s a lot better than just reading and understanding it because you’re applying it like you were saying sparring. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@myparallaxview]

Interesting. Yes, please show other chiasms!

[@chadster771]

I teach my high school Bible students about chiasms but have stayed away from the Genesis one because it’s so long. This has given me a great fun way to introduce it! Thanks!

[@EricCouture315]

I'm interested in the Romans 9-11 chiasm too

[@liteweightpup2561]

I loved this! So much fun to see patterns in the stories.

[@amyk6403]

I like this! I'm obsessed with literary structure and rhetorical devises in the Bible.❤

[@karinahampshire8144]

Love this channel and love more of this as well as other studies!

[@emoryzakin2576]

Absolutely wanna see this in Roman's 9! I was just reading there last week. I'd watch it

[@krsteph]

This was very helpful. Would love to see more. Thank you!

[@rondarayl1536]

I've never heard of this before, thank you for sharing this with us

[@vanessaboman8143]

I would love more of this please, I am studying Romans right now, so that would be wonderful PLEASE. I have only just a few weeks an heard of chiasms, so I want to learn about this form of study. I just ordered a new esv interleaved bible for just home bible study. So I have a bible journal within my bible.

[@1334cass]

This is amazing! I didn’t know anything about this. Please do more of these videos! Phenomenal!!!😊

[@nelsonnyland]

This a great demonstration of a chiasm, as the rainbow structure of the text can be seen also.

[@Saru12249]

So helpful! I really enjoyed seeing some of your process. Yes, I would like you to do the Romans one, please.

[@elizabethhankins6973]

So fun and helpful to see the way other folks mark the text. Thanks for sharing! Here’s another vote for Romans 9-11. :)

[@msyarmel]

Really enjoyed this, yes please do more!

[@bookreader8655]

Great video. Did I miss the part on how many different colors are needed? Gonna have to watch again.

[@ArleneAdkinsZell]

Oh thank you, I loved this method of showing the chiasm and yes please show the Romans chiasm.

[@ledonnawallace2062]

❤❤❤ yes please do more!

[@bigwillcomics9968]

The rainbow Bible is great for use of color especially for Dyslexic people but I agree with you on not using the color code study system it's colored for. If you like one of the few translations it's in I do recommend it for people that need help with reading such as dyslexics but I don't recommend using its system.

[@bkjunkie1553]

Please do Romans chiasm. Ty❤

[@m.j.cravens6333]

As a fan of color coding, yes, I would very much like to see more of this.🤓

[@__reneemaof2]

Finally found a Bible to do this with! Now to go through the playlist and do them

[@TheWayWalker]

YES 🙌 Do more, loved it!

[@20Hikecdt23]

Really good. Thanks! And I’d sure like to see you go over the Romans Chiasm you mentioned. 🤓

[@kathrynlindenauer5347]

Love this! Thank you!!

[@dustinburlet7249]

Do note that my friend Douglas K Smith (you can find his interviews online) recently finished his dissertation on the Genesis Flood using SFL and constructed a thoroughly improved understanding of the chiasm in the Genesis Flood. I highly recommended it

[@amyk6403]

What is SFL?

[@dustinburlet7249]

@amyk6403 SFL stands for Systemic Functional Linguistics (as opposed to generative grammar by Noam Chomsky for instance) More or less it is a rigorous method to detect and interpret the seams and units of rexts in as precise a manner as possible

[@amyk6403]

@dustinburlet7249 thanks

[@karenwilliams4152]

❤ love this! New subbie hoping for more.

[@davidanfinrud3438]

YOu got me picking up in Logos the WBC for Genesis. So I can get this Chiasm. Nice in the scene division it is talked about. Looking at the details involved

[@maureenharrah931]

Please do more.

[@kimberlygriffin5012]

I LOVE THIS! It would be fascinating to do Romans too. I color code various topics in my study Bible, and I have coloring bibles just to get my artsy vibes under control (lol) and to spend extra time in His word. Thank you for this video. ❤

[@marykillough7582]

More plz!!!

[@Shevock]

I don't know where I heard it, but I have a multi colored pen I use. Mostly I just use the colors randomly to help my mind, but there was a time when I marked up a few of the books of the New Testament using three different colors (red, green and blue) to identify Principles, Practices, and Promises.

[@adidammusic]

This is great! I’d love to see more.

[@melb9990]

Thank you so much! I loved it... Would love to see some others you found. I see that some studybibles find chiasm everywhere... The longest I saw indicated was the whole pentateuch: A On the border of the promised earth (Gen 1-11) B Roaming of the fathers (Gen 12-50) C Journey from Egypt to mount Sinai (Ex 1-18) D Law (or covenant?) on Sinai (Ex 19-Lev 27) C Journey from Sinai to Kadesh (Num 1-14) B Israël roaming trough the desert (Num 15-33) A On the border of the promised land (Num 34 - Deut 34) Sorry, it was in dutch at the front of the Pentateuch, so I had to translate it to English... Don't know if you think this is to far fetched...

[@karenwilliams4152]

I’m back, lol. If you mark any more nerdy things in this new travel Bible, be sure to make a video! Philippians 2? Psalms? Creation? 7 Last Words? I mark many things, but I’m very interested in your insights.

[@thomasmiddlebrook9541]

Dorsey's The Literary Structure of the Old Testament argues for even longer chiasms.

[@cf9583]

Revelation chiasm is a good one

[@nonielee5133]

Thank you for this video. I would like to see more...Romans please.

[@Daniel-ff7ld]

I love your channel so much. I want to figure out everything about following God. I wanna search for every little spec of data and I wanna know how someone like Job would have known so much about living God's way even before the Torah. Let's do it, man.

[@__reneemaof2]

All the chiasms!

[@jmckasyru]

I've been doing inductive Bible study on-and-off since 1986. Precept Ministries International got me started on Philippians way back then. So, I've been marking Bibles and printouts of single books of the Bible (a la the PMI observation worksheets) for quite some time. With that being said, I would suggest not underlining every word with color, because then the whole flood narrative is only marked for the one feature, the chaism. I would suggest points of color or colored symbols using the same color pattern but with only small bits of color indenting inward and then outward like the x-shape on the document you showed. The colored marks should be enough to catch the eye but not enough to flood (no pun necessarily intended) the pages with color. That will leave you with enough inmarked spaces to mark key repeated words or other aspects of the narrative account. Some people would be distracted as they are reading to see every verse underlined, regardless of the purpose for such.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@jmckasyru I'm not a fan of the Precepts/Inductive method myself. I find it unnecessary and cluttering...kinda like sentence diagraming. It's not my preferred pedagogy.

[@chelleduns8700]

Other than a interesting literary device used by the writer what importance does marking these chiasms have?

[@p1lgr1mOne]

In an oral culture like Old Testament times, chiastic structures were crucial as memory aids and tools for emphasis (sort of like primitive highlighters). The mirrored ABBA pattern helped speakers and listeners easily recall lengthy texts, as the symmetry created recognizable patterns that embedded the content in memory. More importantly, chiasms focus attention on the most significant point by placing it at the center of the structure. As in the example here about the Noah’s flood story, the chiasm highlights Genesis 8:1, where "God remembered Noah," as the pivotal moment, emphasizing God's faithfulness. This structure not only makes the story easier to retell and to remember but also points the audience to the key theological message. If one were to lead a bible study or preach a sermon on this story and fails to emphasize his message on 8:1, then he does not only become unfaithful to the overall emphasis of the story but he also shortchanges his listeners.

[@IamGrimalkin]

Well it's just told you what the most important part of the Noah account is. I think that's relevant.

[@jeffreybrannen9465]

It also allows the reader and the preacher to accurately make the connection between Genesis 8:1 and Exodus 2:24. God remembering his people - the covenant and the judgment of the wicked by water baptism (1 Cor. 10:3, 1Pet. 3:18-22) and the rescue of the righteous by faith. Otherwise, we focus on secondary matters, such as fossil formation and geological processes. It doesn’t mean that we can’t or shouldn’t consider those issues, but those are at least secondary if not tertiary considerations. The Answers in Genesis approach which front loads the modernistic scientific questions misses the basic theological point of the Bible’s account. God judges the wicked, rescues his people, and will never forget them nor leave them. Where do dinosaurs come from? I don’t know. Will God judge his and our enemies? Yes. Will I ever be abandoned by my Savior and will be ever forget his covenant? Never!

[@chelleduns8700]

So... The point of marking these is for instructional purposes, is what I am understanding from the responses. But if you are not an instructor and you have already identified the key passage, taken a note of and studied it. Marking is not necessarily, necessary. But for personal study purposes it is good to identify these when they happened.

[@IamGrimalkin]

@@chelleduns8700 He mentions in the video that he can show people the structure in his bible. It's also useful for embedding the knowledge and a remainder in case you forget. Although all Christians are to be instructors to each other and particularly to non-Christians. It's not exclusive to those who have formal teaching roles.

[@ramonalee1]

I’m doing this. You mentioned using the colors of the color wheel, interesting choice of words since it’s also the order of the colors in the rainbow, I mean, isn’t that where the color wheel originates? I thought it especially important since the rainbow is the symbol of God's promise to never destroy the earth again with water. Thanks for a great video!

[@LocaChoca]

Yes please for the Roman's chiasm. This was incredibly useful. Can you link the chiasm itself in the description? I would love to read more of it.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@LocaChoca you can just google "Gordon Wenham Genesis flood chiasm"

[@CatsaLots]

So, if you’re using color for the small bible, how does this look in your larger bible? Can you briefly show the pages, when you do another chism?

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@CatsaLots stay tuned

[@ShaneZettelmier]

This is interesting. I’ve never heard of the chasm before, but I’ve seen it and been taught kind of the premise and reading the Bible. Is this why in the old Testament especially the stuff from Moses that things are repeated so much like when you’re reading what Moses wrote, it’s usually like reading the same thing 2 to 4 times. Is this a literary structure or kind of a way to help us remember it? I just thought Hebrew was maybe very detailed and repetitive and its nature and overemphasised everything which you kind of see in the language structure, it’s almost annoying in a sense you see a lot of Middle Eastern culture where they don’t want to sell this car. They have to tell you how honest they are now they’re not trying to steal from you and how you want to blast you a sacrifice they’re making and they just go on and on about everything. Like during the exodus the way that we just go on and on about things is this something put in the literary structure to just give us full context and then lead up to what it’s trying to tell us so we fully understand it and then as you move away from the sort of ratify it to make sure you get it?

[@DevinAdint]

I did a bunch of research on pens for marking and highlighters for highlighting. I found the Zebra Midliners were one of the best highlighters with no bleed through and little ghosting. I thought about using color pencils but found that they tend to leave indentations. I looked at the gel highlighters and they were like crayons leaving a waxy residue which you couldn't mark over with pens and if you leave your bible in a hot car the pages tend to stick together. So I looked for archival pens and I found the Pigma Micron technical pens didn't bleed or ghost as well as the Uniball Signo UM-151 and Uniball Stylefit pens didn't bleed or ghost. As an added bonus the Stylefit has the Meister 5 color multipen which you can customize with Stylefit colors that use the same archival quality Signo ink. I bought two so I have 10 colors in two pens that are great for travel. As far as the Micron technical pens I found a cheaper alternative that has almost the same quality called Charsoco that have a 12 color pack on amazon that is fantastic.

[@softscribbles]

Screenshotted your comment bc I’m a stationery nerd, especially Bible friendly stationery!

[@BeardedBarley1]

Neato.

[@heisrisen9855]

Do you have a video on why you detail your insight about the rainbow bible? By the way, this was a great video and I am interested in you doing Romans

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@heisrisen9855 no, I've not done one on it because I haven't come by a copy to use in a review, and I don't care to go buy one. 😅

[@autochick123]

@@DiscipleDojo😂😂😂😂

[@heisrisen9855]

Fair enough​@@DiscipleDojo

[@bethmartin3461]

@@DiscipleDojoI am new to reading the Bible and I tried a traditional Bible and my son got me the rainbow study Bible and I love it!! My son was a skeptic too but I think he likes it now. I would say if the rainbow study bible gets you to start reading the Bible it should be encouraged.

[@amyk6403]

Could we have a link to a pdf of the chiasm document?😊

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@amyk6403 you can just google "gordon wenham genesis chiasm" and find it pretty easily.

[@baudelaire2984]

I would be very interested in a vid of Romans 9-11 if you want to do one.

[@bigjoe8922]

Very cool thank you . See you in our Fathers house when we get there❤

[@donnamelton9829]

Yes please do the same for Romans 9-11.

[@skinnybodwilliams9342]

Yes please - plot the Romans chiasm

[@seasquawker]

There is a chiasm from Genesis 1 through chapter 7 which corresponds with the 7 day creation story as well as Holy Week. Day 4 of creation is the last day without living creatures, Genesis 4 is about death and murder, Jesus was betrayed on day 4 of Holy Week. So there's a full 7 chapter cycle, that corresponds to the 7 day creation account that begins with creation and takes us through the destruction of the flood... and then a renewal in Genesis 8 which would also correspond to Jesus being resurrected on the first day of the week (Luke 24), which also coincidentally is the 8th day.

[@brendabobenda6752]

Yes do it for Romans please!

[@keddy5627]

Yes!!!! Romans, please! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@brianmefford630]

Bullinger's Companion Bible.

[@MusicalMind9]

Do every chiasm 😂 make it a series!!!

[@amyk6403]

Huh. I always thought people were being too critical of the documentary hypothesis. I found it rather convincing. But, this knowledge convinces me otherwise. Are there other organizational elements in Genesis that explain: A. the similarities in names between Cain's line and Seth's line B. The similarities between, or repetition of themes in, the "accounts" of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@amyk6403 yes. See Duane Garrett's book "Rethinking Genesis" as well as Caleb Lewis' "Through the Waters" for possible literary/structural devices.

[@lesliebooth2833]

Yes! Romans 9-11!!!

[@MiaStrayer]

What’s a Kiassum?

[@DaniqueBrew]

A chiasm is a literary structure where the ideas or concepts or description gets a repeat or reversal in a symmetric way. Just like he showed @3:34 in the video!

[@IndianaJoe0321]

Chiastic structure is a literary technique, in the form of the Greek letter "chi," which is our letter X. Essentially, each idea is connected to its “reflection” by a repeated word, often in a related form. With this info, if you now watch his video, it should make sense.

[@tiffanywitmer6360]

Perfect, God's first covenant, the rainbow.

[@joyvictorious777]

great soundtrack choice…I know, minor, but still…

[@armithel3133]

"How dare you write on the Word of God!" God probably: "nice rainbow effect, i c wat u did thar"

[@docsavage8640]

Why mark them at all?

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@docsavage8640 made that pretty clear in the video

[@umarae27]

I'm still stumped on the 1st 2 chapters of Genesis. God makes ppl & then he makes Adam & Eve & places them in a special luscious garden. Were all the other ppl put in Nod where God sends Cain to? What about Ethiopia & the other places & ppl mentioned. My head hurts. If Adam & Eve were the 1st ever, then where & when did all the others come from? I hope I dont sound like a troll. I finally got a new bible & i hope to study it with the hindsights the scholars achieved.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@umarae27 you should watch our free seminar here on the channel: www.discipledojo.org/bible-science as well as the podcast series we did called "Genesis 1-11: The Primordial Preface" where we discuss all of that. www.discipledojo.org/podcast

[@jeffreybrannen9465]

Two complementary creation accounts. Genesis 1 emphasizes God’s sovereign power creating by his Word and Spirit in six days and resting on the seventh (foundation of the 4th Commandment). Genesis 2 emphasizes God as Yahweh Elohim (the LORD God)-the covenant-making, covenant-keeping God - God as Father. Complementary not contradictory. Adam and Eve had more children than Cain and Abel (Genesis 5:4). Hope this helps some

[@umarae27]

@jeffreybrannen9465 thanks! Yes, very helpful! I'll think of the 1st as a prolog, a movie trailer, & the 2 as the main attraction. Cool!

[@umarae27]

@@DiscipleDojo will do, thanks!!

[@educational4434]

What does that even mean? Chiastic structure? Chiasm?

[@jenniferillingworth5388]

The whole book of Revelation is a chiasm…Adam & Eve & The Fall is a chiasm…they are all over the place. The three signs of Moses and the first three miracles of Jesus are also a chiasm. So these can be found over a few verses, a chapter, a book, or front to back. They are a lot of fun to find!!

[@debbieadkins1957]

Yes. Please do Romans too

[@JosiahTheSiah]

Yes please do Romans!

[@JonStallings]

Romans please

[@fiesty3000]

Yes! Rom 9-11! Why do you even have to ask! Lol

[@EdgarAllanGo]

Yes! Please do Romans 😀

[@Dylan-wn7dm]

Romans would be good as well

[@juan_urbina]

Yes! Do Romans! 😊

[@peterxuereb9884]

It's just another distraction. Knowing all the chiasms in scripture will not make one understand scripture better. It's like saying "look squirrel" just to distract the reader from the full meaning of scripture.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@peterxuereb9884 well...you just won the "most ridiculous comment of the day" award. Congratulations.

[@youaregodspursuit-47]

IMHO I do not really understand. Of all the things you can do with your Scripture there is a concern about what ink or colored pencil to use while you make notes? It is not meant to be a coloring book. How did anyone learn Scripture before the felt tipped pen? Perhaps you have turned Bible marking into a hobby, not study. The world is sinking into a pit and Christ returns soon. He won't care if you used Sienna or Cerulean blue! If I like pink will it cause me to sin?

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@youaregodspursuit-47 perhaps you should actually watch a video before commenting on it. You might be surprised at what you learn.

[@KingsMantle]

I’m all for whatever gets people studying and enjoying the beauty of Gods Word. As it happens colors are also beautiful.

[@c4mailmanpb]

Another interesting feature of the parallel plus app is its ability to highlight with many different colors.