I think you really hit the nail on the head with "they're not a resource for people with DID, they're a resource for people without DID" . I hope you're doing well and continue to feel better, thanks for sharing this video :)
@butasimpleidiotwizard3 жыл бұрын
tbh as someone who looked at her channel because I do not have DID and needed help understanding it as my friend had just been diagnosed I actually felt the opposite, so I guess now reflecting on that with more understanding of how a significant portion of the DID community feel about her it would seem to me that she makes content for people who want entertainment out of DID rather than education. My friend with DID actually recommended me her channel, she really liked it since it helped her feel more normal and less alone, and I think its important to recognise that impact of her content because I know that it was the same for many others too, but I also think that sparks a really important question to discuss about the difference between education, entertainment, and advocacy, because I never found her content to be very educational when I was needing to be educated. It was always edited and put together to be more entertaining and about her personal journey and presented her and her system as "characters", in the same way any vlogger would be considered a character, as they control which parts of them make it to the final cut and have to structure their videos in certain ways to ensure they're always satisfying and engaging to build a parasocial relationship with their audience and continue getting clicks. If she had framed her channel as an entertainment/vlog channel that was to offer representation of DID through an influencer format both to show people with the disorder that they are not alone and to help normalise and humanise the disorder for people who have had very little exposure to it, I don't think any of this drama would have had quite the same effect on her and the community. Because she framed herself as an education channel (which she did at least try to be) her personal flaws and the more character oriented video style (as opposed to focusing as little as possible on the presenter and just offering clear facts with researched evidence) caused a lot more problems, and when her personal flaws ended up compromising the educational value of her videos, because people were also attached to her as a character she got slammed twofold, both for the very real problems with her "educational" content and also because her subscribers who had a parasocial bond with her suddenly felt very betrayed.
@tonyapowell16953 жыл бұрын
Not True at all. DissociaDid has helped me Deal with my Diagnosis more than any Other Channel. Certainly more than this one.
@vanessaultimo19263 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Dissociadid call themselves a mental health service when in reality they're just talking about their own experience with their own DID. It's really different for every person and it isn't as simple as it's displayed by Dissociadid. They've spent most of their time romanticising the disorder on KZbin and it's dangerous.
@nicholekam55273 жыл бұрын
just curious how did they romanticize DID
@ellaineeeahn74083 жыл бұрын
When did Dissociadid romanticized their disorder? They provide facts, insights and even citation to promote awareness about DID. Even stepped back when their system is experiencing problems and disconnect to youtube or any social media platforms. It’s true that Disociadid is for someone who doesn’t have DID, but don’t you think that can help end the stigma about such a disorder? for someone who is clueless about DID?
@vanessaultimo19263 жыл бұрын
@@ellaineeeahn7408 I've been following them for years. It took me a long time to realize that my view of the disorder was extremely skewed because of them. There are enough people here on KZbin who do a good job at explaining what's wrong with Dissociadid. I recommend Cringey's videos if you want facts and an educated opinion.
@ellaineeeahn74083 жыл бұрын
@@vanessaultimo1926 aw thank youu 🤍
@nicholekam55273 жыл бұрын
@@vanessaultimo1926 just ignore my question lol
@Lenergyiskey358 Жыл бұрын
My god you are the first one who speaks about flooding. This happened to me before a full blown episode of amnesia switching. It lasted days. Thankyou, flooding is a great description.
@SincerelySadako3 жыл бұрын
So I looked through the comments a bit and didn't see anyone mention it but, while yes there is a lot of overlap between conditions, splitting in BPD is not like switching in DID or OSDD (I say this as someone diagnosed with BPD and who is considering that I might have OSDD as well but I don't have insurance so I can't pursue a potential diagnosis yet). Splitting in BPD is black and white thinking. It's grouping everything and everyone into categories like good and bad and also if someone you thought was one way suddenly acts differently, pushing them into the other category because your mind tells you they can only be one or the other. BPD does have identity confusion and dissociation though so it is easy for people to think they might have DID or OSDD if they have BPD. The big thing that separates it diagnosticly from DID in particular is that it is a diagnostic criteria for DID that you have distinct parts whereas in BPD you are just one person who sometimes loses grasp on their identity. The parts in DID being distinct doesn't mean they can't be blurry or cause identity confusion but it's not exactly the same. And OSDD is basically DID but either with non-distinct parts or no amnesia between parts (I'm oversimplifying a bit but if you want to learn about it a good place to look is videos from The Rings System here on KZbin). I feel like I had more to say but honestly I'm exhausted so I'm going to stop here but I just wanted to hopefully clear up the confusion that could potentially happen with comparing DID switching with BPD splitting even though they are very different.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to write this out, it is very helpful!
@PrincessKLS3 жыл бұрын
What’s OSDD?
@SincerelySadako3 жыл бұрын
@@PrincessKLS I can understand how you missed where I said it because my comment is kind of a brick of text but as I said above, to oversimplify: OSDD (Other Specified Dissociative Disorder) is basically DID but either the parts are not distinct or there is no amnesia between parts. If you'd like to learn more I recommend looking up The Rings System here on KZbin. They're an OSDD system that does informative videos about OSDD and being a system among other things.
@PrincessKLS3 жыл бұрын
@@SincerelySadako thanks
@cerenkarahan58383 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for writing this. You can not imagine how much this helped me. I had a friend who has bpd and I thought they had DID but I did not know splitting happens at bpd. I will do my research thank you so much🙏🙏🙏🙏
@misty_woods3 жыл бұрын
as someone who watched dissociaDID before i realised i has OSDD, this video is so so comforting. my experience has been very blurry, my parts aren't very clear, and it's overall been 𝘮𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘺. dissociaDID was always so clean cut and idealized, i felt like i was faking and it caused me intense stress because i did not know what to do with myself or my other headmates. to hear somebody else say that their experience has been just as messy and blurry as mine is exactly what i've needed all this time. truly, thank you for this video.
@bigri80323 жыл бұрын
Everyone has different experiences KZbin is such a large platform you can find your people 😊
@DIDHatchery3 жыл бұрын
Dissociadid was extremely destructive to systems. I was often baffled by how her switches were so clean ALWAYS and how she always seemed to know who was fronting. I would say the majority of the time, I don’t know who’s fronting. In some of our videos it might appear that we always know who’s fronting, but that’s only because I am influenced to make certain videos when certain alters are ready to make said videos (most of my vids are improvised when certain parts feel compelled to film). Much of the time, however, I’m blended or just uncertain of who is out. I try to emphasize my own personal experience of DID as all system present and function differently. I have alters who love for people to know they’re out. I have other alters who, if asked who’s fronting, will lie for protective reasons. It’s an important distinction that I don’t think is widely understood because of people like Dissociadid. Thank you for your excellent video.
@chibi-bombyx3 жыл бұрын
That was very similar to my experiences with the disorder too! Thank you for sharing! I think it’s so important
@nonakabyrd57593 жыл бұрын
DisocialDID is very integrated and has worked really hard to accomplish this. Not everyone will have the ability to integrate. I had a friend in college who had DID, she never knew who was fronting. They only way I knew was speech differences. She even had an alter who did not like me. Like all mental illnesses, everyone is different, just because the DSM has guidelines to properly diagnose, it's very difficult, regardless of the particular mental illness
@felixmastropasqua28203 жыл бұрын
@@nonakabyrd5759 dissociaDID is not very integrated at all, what do you mean? their parts are incredibly distinct and there are very many of them, that's the opposite of integration. they've had a few integrations between alters but many many splits and have spoken about not wanting to fully integrate.
@pixiegem3 жыл бұрын
Her switches were not always so clean - she often has co -conscience parts - and also slow and messy switches are clearly edited down. Perhaps it helps her function to give her parts names and exaggerate their differences.
@madixxoo3 жыл бұрын
@@pixiegem This. Also it’s funny to me how so many comments like OP have the tone of “her DID experience isn’t representative of everyone with DID” while also lowkey saying her DID doesn’t match their’s enough. There’s other DID creators on YT that have functionality between alters despite the amnesia. I don’t see why there’s this huge “mmm this seems fishy” solely about DD for... functioning decently (on camera, where they can edit things and reshoot and we don’t see the prep that happened off camera)?
@Kelly-fh1bb3 жыл бұрын
How does anyone represent a disorder??? Everyone is different.
@madixxoo3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! They’ve literally never said their experience with DID was the only DID experience. I don’t see any think piece videos about Multiplicity & Me or any other DID creator for making similar content. The only difference (M&M are great though don’t get me wrong) is that DD tends to mention the science side and discuss studies and medical history and stuff that correlates to what they’re talking about (though M&M do this as well just not in the same tone I suppose). It’s really annoying reading these replies and seeing people trying to pin their ignorance about a disorder onto DD (like... how is it their fault you just assumed all people with DID were a monolith and their experience was the only DID experience), when no one would do that with any other mental health disorder. All they can do is speak from their POV with their experience having DID and back it up with what science they can find. I don’t understand how other people being ignorant about this is their fault.
@shatteredbones10483 жыл бұрын
BINGO 😁🥰
@akab36483 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Videos like this make me so mad. Creating unnecessary hurt and pain. Nin and her system are now one body against thousands speculating and gossiping about them. It’s so destroying to the mind especially when people suffer from anxiety etc.
@nickyj98593 жыл бұрын
@@akab3648 I hear you, but if you put your life and experience on youtube, its a given that you will recieve both validation and criticism.
@justinemassey3 жыл бұрын
@A.A how? I’ve never seen any evidence of that.
@thisisauniquename3 жыл бұрын
As a singlet (I hope that's the right term lol) who was first introduced to DID a year ago through DissociaDID, I'm really glad this was in my recommended. I had heard that they were problematic, but I thought that their experience with DID was, for the most part, universal. This video alone has made me realize I need to learn more about the disorder. So thank you for sharing this! I'll definitely be doing more research thanks to you❤️
@antoinettepariseau77373 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. People have been hurt and traumatized by her and are being called obsessed for speaking up
@oliver.e.murphy3 жыл бұрын
This is sadly too true, I've been one of these people
@shatteredbones10483 жыл бұрын
May I ask How? Because she Clearly states this is her own personal experience. If you have been hurt by a KZbin Channel are you Not seeing a Dr and Therapist? Seeking to understand. This makes No sense to us. You can always just Stop watching it! Personal Accountability still applies even for those of us with Systems.
@FaustinaFinnerty3 жыл бұрын
@@shatteredbones1048 the irony is disociaDID (sorry if I spelled this incorrectly) has claimed to have been hurt and traumatised by others on this platform. So maybe they should do the same.
@Joy61683 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I’ve been noticing a lot of people have said DissociaDID hurt and traumatized the DID community, I’m just researching all of this to figure out what’s going on. I’ve noticed that she’s not apologizing for her wrongdoings, and don’t take criticism well. Instead, she’s treated her channel as a business and hasn’t taken constructive criticism.
@nonakabyrd57593 жыл бұрын
Why should she apologize?
@SoCalJellybean3 жыл бұрын
@@nonakabyrd5759 Where. Do. We. BEGIN?!?! 😂🙄
@shatteredbones10483 жыл бұрын
She doesn't have to apologize for sharing her Truth. If it doesn't agree with you STOP watching it! Simple really.
@CandiceWilson-u9p3 жыл бұрын
Thank God a system who also doesn't like people trying to ask who's fronting!! Like ew just talk to me like a normal person. She affected my treatment from friends, and a therapist. When I first saw it I was like this is not ok. And then I found out I had it. Once I fully researched the disorder I learned about how it actually functions and that made a lot of her BS clear
@twilighttimeasmr89623 жыл бұрын
My system also hates that question. If we know and want you to know we will tell you.
@shabaz05103 жыл бұрын
i didn't know some systems didn't like it and found it rude! i only ask because i don't want to misgender an alter or upset them by thinking they are a different alter. i will stop doing it though.
@twilighttimeasmr89623 жыл бұрын
@@shabaz0510 ddont worry, alters will let you know if they want you to use a different name and set of pronouns while they're out :)
@butasimpleidiotwizard3 жыл бұрын
As someone who isn't a system but is friends with a couple it was honestly weirdly difficult to learn that there is literally no reason that you have to ask who is fronting, like sometimes its okay to ask (if you have explicit permission to ask in that situation for example) but there is basically no world in which not knowing who is fronting will harm you, if you're unsure if its someone different to who you thought it was and are worried about triggering or upsetting them just avoid talking about any obvious triggers and especially if they've gone quiet try to make sure they're okay and find out if they need anything to help them feel more okay. It feels from an uneducated outsiders perspective like you're suddenly talking to some stranger that has showed up unannounced and kicked your friend out of the conversation and is now expecting you to keep acting as normal even though you literally do not know them, and that can make you kind of expect that and constantly scrutinize your friend's behaviour to tell if they've switched, but now having become educated I have learned that that is not really how DID works and while they may technically be a stranger they still kind of know you and you still kind of know them even if its only in some weird way, kind of like seeing your friend's siblings around their house all the time but never really talking to them until for whatever reason you do, and if you saw your friend's sibling alone in a public place being generally lost looking, confused, and anxious you'd probably want to make sure they were okay at least for the sake of your friend, even if you may not know their name. Or like when someone who you vaguely recognise starts talking to you but you can't quite work out who it is aside from that you definitely know them you just can't figure out where from, you wouldn't just be like "who are you" because that would be rude, same with alters. That's just how I make sense of it at least, I don't know how it feels from a system's perspective.
@CandiceWilson-u9p3 жыл бұрын
@@butasimpleidiotwizard this! Thank you for sharing ! I don't think I could have said it better myself
@ValeriaRodriguez-ld1dw3 жыл бұрын
I'm really not sure, since it's been some time since I watched a DissociaDID video, but from what I remember they actually have said that their videos are no instruction to people with the same situation, since everyone's experience is different, and I remeber they said several times that their videos are about their experiences and to spread awareness about DID for people not experienced with that topic. And I remember they have said they are not a doctor or a professional and that you should do proper research and consult a professional if you think you may be going through the same thing, that their videos are targeted to people that have no idea about DID and those who are curious about it. But as I said, the last time I watched one of DissociaDID videos was like two months ago, so I'm not really up to date.
@ValeriaRodriguez-ld1dw3 жыл бұрын
And we can't blame them for having a different experience from other people with DID, they have been dealing with it many years and they have worked on it for a long time, so it obviously won't be as easy for someone who just discovered they are going through the same. We can't blame them for not talking about experiences they don't have. And again from what I remember they always made clear that their videos are not instructions, tips on how deal with DID, etc. So this problem really has me thinking, if anyone has some info I could look up about all the misinformation problem, I would gladly thank them
@_.mxlted_.bxain_.65773 жыл бұрын
Right I have the same exact thought to I'm just generally confused at this point
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
@@ValeriaRodriguez-ld1dw hi thank you for your comment. They may have disclaimers in their description, but their content is addressing people with DID. They're in a grey area. It isn't clear what they are. To healthy adults it may be clear, but not to people who may be vulnerable. The younger parts in my system really attached to being spoken directly to and the emotional validation and I didn't realize how damaging their content was until it was too late. They have also left comments to struggling people recommending their videos without even mentioning professional help. They say clearly that they're sharing their own experiences when they are being criticized but then clearly market themselves as a mental health resource other times. When they have an audience that is comprised of children and vulnerable people they need to be incredibly clear. I cannot comb through their content to find misinfo, but I know one common one is how common DID is. I have heard 3% to up to 7% of the population from them when it's really 0.1-1% of the population. The 3% is people with DID in psychiatric setting and the 7% is dissociative disorders as a whole. Some of the sources they use are questionable as well I believe, but I do not know off the top of my head
@1crazysushiluver913 жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment roughly the same thing
@rachaelsworld11163 жыл бұрын
I am looked up to that channel for a long time. I’m very confused though. They always say that you’re not a professional and dad you should always do your own research. Although I have never really looked at their descriptions they always say they put links to all the resources. As a visually impaired person I can only take their word for it I not sure if this will help but I know with the drama and everything like went on a year ago things are very different now. I’m sorry for all the hurt that this channel has caused everyone. Also I am sorry for my very bad typing.
@Wolfstar263 жыл бұрын
i always thought it was bizarre how their fans treated their alters like the quirky cast off of a tv show or something.
@3dini2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. We don't know what's going on but has been recently aware of our system. I used to watch videos like DissociatDiD as a kid and found it super interesting and it sorta gave me a guideline of what "DiD looks like". It confused me about my symptoms and my identity to the point I thought what I was doing was factious because I am not experiencing what I thought I should. It's not what I thought all of this was and it scares me. I felt lost, tbh, I still feel lost but watching this and your other videos made me realize that what is happening to *me* is *my* experience. I kept comparing what I didn't have, not what I am currently dealing with. Thank you for helping me realize that. Cheers.
@saltyriz77342 жыл бұрын
Same thing is happening to me and its horrible
@Aaronious863 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your courage. I do not have DID, but your basic principle of “stop trying to represent an entire community through entertainment”.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
2022 edit- please check description Edit- Trisha has shared they are non-binary and uses they/them pronouns. I did not know this while filming. Okay I want to make a correction- I took it too far by claiming they were fetishizing the disorder. It has also been pointed out to me that they do not film while having bad dissociative episodes and that the way I put it invalidated their experience and other systems, which is something I really don't want to do. I feel they could do more to make it clear that speaking about their system members in that way is okay with them, but shouldn't be expected of other people with DID. Their system presentation is very different from most people with the disorder. It's also been pointed out they use switching to boost their engagement, which is their right. I think it would be helpful to point that out in each video, but that's not my decision. It is their content. My main point was that they could include disclaimers that would remedy a lot of criticisms surrounding their content. I feel it could really, really help people. This is what I really care about and think really needs to be addressed. They also contradict themselves a lot surrounding their channel purpose. They refer to it as an educational channel and mental health service when they do not have the credentials to do so. My hope with making this video is to help keep people safe and informed. ALSO I do not believe they are faking the disorder and we do not condone fake claiming. This comment has been edited many times lmao
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
I also want to add I do not speak for the DID community. I see how some people took it that way and that was my mistake
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
@IZ Digital Piano thank you for the video recommendation- I've just watched it. It did bring up many good points. Someone else in the comments also reminded me that they do not film while having bad dissociative episodes and that is something I didn't keep in mind. (editing the above comment and the description to add that after I leave this). I understand it may be tedious to repeat that info, but I think it would make a huge difference to more casual viewers that don't research past their videos and for systems that watch their videos. I think again my main issue is that they will say that their channel is a mental health service and speak directly to systems, so systems that are in a vulnerable place or are naïve may not look into other resources. This isn't their fault, but it is a reality. I understand for many people disclaimers seem like a technicality, but them saying clearly they are not professionals and that people should get help from one at the beginning of each video would help people that may be more vulnerable. I realize their channel grew very quickly and they haven't had time to learn all of the ins and outs of having a large platform. They have also gone through a lot and received a lot of unnecessary criticism, which would make it hard for anyone to sort through what is actual constructive criticism and what is hate. It's just people's safety is at stake with this one. I was just making this video so people don't make the same mistake I did. Their channel is going to be a lot of system's first intro into the disorder. Knowing these things before hand would have helped keep me safe. I don't want to see their channel gone- there are really great things they bring to the table! their videos are entertaining and easy to digest, but I don't want to support them until they make changes to make their content safer for their viewers.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
@IZ Digital Piano it’s not about pleasing people. They call themselves a mental health service when they do not have the credentials. It isn’t just something I’m upset about- the lack of clarity is a safety issue. It doesn’t matter if they shout other channels out- they cannot call themselves that.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
They can ignore it all they want, but it is incredibly irresponsible
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
@IZ Digital Piano then you should feel sorry for DissociaDID as they have vulnerable younger parts as well. They were right that they need protection. A disclaimer in their channel description isn’t enough. And ofc people should look to their doctors but they were also right about how difficult it can be to get treatment. The two things together create such a dangerous situation
@charleyash7815 Жыл бұрын
(TW: Suicidal ideation, self harm mention) This video... changed my mind about DissociaDID. As a system who also discovered my system because of DissociaDID's content, I also realized I was experiencing flooding and even more despair because the videos glorify distinct alters and I felt that I must be faking because my experience is very blurry (I have partial DID vs. a more extreme separation between alters, so I'm coconscious 99% of the time). Our voices aren't super different from each other, our personalities aren't super different from each other, and certain parts that may have originally been part of the same alter (because of polyfragmentation) are almost identical to each other. Because we thought everyone's experience was like DissociaDID's we thought we were just faking the disorder. That caused multiple alters to forcibly shut down my access as the host to our entire system, which delayed the start of our recovery for almost an entire year. I didn't feel like I had any way to take care of myself, and the advice given created a lot of stress for my protectors, trauma holders, and persecutors. They thought they had to fight each other and/or be hyper distinct, which caused multiple protectors to attack former persecutors and trauma holders. DissociaDID seems to glorify having so many personality fragments and the splitting, and it almost feels... fetishizing to watch the switches. The amount of discomfort switching can cause seems inadvertently masked by the style of videos, whether that was their original intention or not. Their advice is very much "this worked for me but might not work for you" without much evidence to demonstrate that the methods they're trying to suggest work, or without even consulting a therapist or specialist on their channel. For so long after I discovered I was a system (about a year ago) I wondered what was wrong with me. After seeing your video... all the pieces have clicked into place. For so long, I thought people were just vicious. I was a victim of bullying, so I thought DissociaDID's MANY cancellations were just the internet ganging up on them. But... as a person who was a fan for so long, you're right about everything. It's terrifying that I agree so heavily with everything you said here, and that I genuinely can't find anything wrong with your arguments, because I loved DissociaDID's content. Their channel is potentially damaging. The flooding I experienced caused me to feel very suicidal and even caused me to self harm to the point where I got super ill. The fact that they abandon their audience or guilt anyone who has anything negative to say time and time again... It just.... speaks volumes. And now I just hope they're able to realize that maybe their style of content isn't the safest for people in the community. It sure wasn't safe for me. Thank you for being brave enough to create this video. For so long, I thought people online were just hateful and bitter. Now I'm realizing it's a lot more complicated than that.
@evanenzer3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always really liked Dicociadid but this video is actually really great. You should start a clubhouse about the different ways people experience DID.
@ashtenchambliss2842 жыл бұрын
Good video, good points. Thanks for sharing with us, much of us feel the same.
@iilliamna3 жыл бұрын
We also feel blurry most of the time too, and we cannot do journaling most of the time either (we find audio logging is better since journaling it's easier to see words one of you wrote before and start reading what they wrote). I've also noticed a rise in people self-diagnosing and spreading false information about DID more often- while I very passionately agree that people shouldn't say someone is faking or not, because that is really harmful and people can self diagnose because it's really hard to get help in the world we live in. I don't like when people fetishize and romanticize DID and also use it at a punchline (along with PTSD which is used as a punchline alllll the time) But it's really good for all of us to talk about this and speak up, have a voice, and voice our own opinions. Thank you for speaking up, I appreciate what you've talked about in this video, it seemed like it was really hard for you to do because it's such a stressful thing to talk about and open up about yourself to the entire global online audience
@TheIndigoSystem3 жыл бұрын
Self diagnosing is valid. It’s elitist, gatekeeping and classist to assume everyone can get diagnosed formally whilst fighting stigma, and disbelief.
@RikkuButterFly3 жыл бұрын
i agree her channel is harmful. I have schizophrenia and during my most recent episode i was hearing voices giving me commands (like take your shirt off, flush it down the toilet) and i remembered a video where she said a voice in her head gave her a command (i think the command was from kyle to lay on her stomach for some reason??) and i thought i had DID because of it. and i thought that my voices were alters. and that i had a secret trauma i couldnt remember and i was petrified of my parents. the only time she mentioned schizophrenia in her videos was to say it’s absolutely different than DID but somehow my psychosis brain still got confused. ive always been scared to tell this because i was afraid someone would say i was “fettishizing” DID when really i had no idea what DID or schizophrenia really were bc of videos that glorified mental illness and only portray one aspect of it. thank you for speaking out about your experience. i hope mine can help too~
@ohcdoe18803 жыл бұрын
I understand where you are coming from but I do disagree. DissociaDID strives to provide scientific information on DID and telling their own story. I have been watching their content since 2017 so I feel like I should try and sum it up a little bit as to what my experience with them is. I am a system too, and I found this out through watching their content, but the important factor for me what understanding that DissociaDID never claimed to be a therapist or psychiatrist. They are just stating the facts and their experiences with this disorder and they urged people to go and therapist if their symptoms align. Not answering comments talking about their experiences with DID and ignoring comments that are asking for help I don't see as malicious in any way. I understand how it could be interpreted as that but they have previously stated in videos and on their instagram that those types of comments go unanswered because they dont want to be seen as a therapist or someone who could diagnose the commenters. A lot of people go "My symptoms align, do I have this?" But that is entirely not DissociaDID's place. That is something the commenter should see a mental health professional about and, again, is something that DissociaDID reminds people quite often. On the lines of journalling I don't believe this was meant to force other systems to journal too, once again they don't give advice but they do speak from their experiences. Journalling helped them in their own journey with the help of a therapist. Any and all treatment methods should be discussed with the mental health professional. DissociaDID was just sharing some of their treatment and how it has helped them in my journey. When making specific alter videos they were once again talking from their own experience and they, like my system, have very defined alters. They did not state that it is the only way alters form, they also said that alters may have more blurred lines between them. I do not believe they were discounting other systems, they were simply not talking about others in those videos, they were talking about their personal experiences. I believe that Trisha (as someone with plenty of money) should have consulted a therapist before posting the videos. I have many thoughts on her situation but it doesnt have much to do with DissociaDIDs channel in my opinion. When I started thinking I had DID I immediately booked a session with a therapist. I have been seeing therapists on and off since I was five but I knew that the information DissociaDID was giving and my own personal experiences were overlapping. This is entirely a separate matter. In conclusion, as I see it DissociaDID gives Facts and personal experience that gives you the knowledge that you need to seek help from a medical professional and should not be taken as more than that. It is not diagnosing anyone but instead giving information. They are their own humans and have their own lives, they do not claim to know everything nor do they know anyone elses given situation. Please understand that I am not discounting what you have said at all. I can see where you are coming from and why you and others may feel like this. I am just explaining this situation from my own side as I have had a very opposite experience with them. I will be neither liking nor disliking this video as it is not my place to tell you how you should or should not feel about this situation. I wish you and your system luck with your mental health journey. Thank you for taking the time to read this comment. ~Camilla
@alexkess85063 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like she’s just in it to entertain. And it’s sad. But I’m glad people are starting to speak out finally.
@orokalmodozo68043 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she is faking DID that's why...
@alijane66753 жыл бұрын
She's in it to make money, and a name for herself.
@galesk3443 жыл бұрын
@@orokalmodozo6804 why do you think that
@megspositiveoutlook57723 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit surprised to be in the minority of the comment section, but DissociaDID is just one system. Outside of them speaking from their own experience, I have never gotten the impression that they were presenting themselves as a medical resource. Multiple times have they spoken outright about getting help and finding a medical professional because They Are Not It. I understand being frustrated about not having all the answers. However this feels like trying to cut down DissociaDID for getting a B+ when the rest of the class is averaging a D-.
@shatteredbones10483 жыл бұрын
I agree with You! She can say "I don't like that channel" it is NOT okay for her to speak for everyone who has a Diagnosis of DID. Nope.... She doesn't speak for me or my System at All. I Love DissociaDid and what they've done to bring awareness to this disorder. I hope some day this person is Not ashamed of the way her brain helped her Survive. I am Proud of how my Brain kept me alive!
@sol61213 жыл бұрын
This!
@Em_Elizabeth3 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, I did learn a lot about DID from DissociaDid. It's too bad they have scandal.
@bujomurphy3 жыл бұрын
my biggest issue is she labels herself as an educator, it was only recently that she took it down, and she presents herself as a scientific resource when several if not most of the studies she references have been proven to be biased/outdated/misinforming or just have nothing to do with the context of the video. I get it, she's speaking from her own experience first and foremost, but it's disingenuous to speak from anecdotal experience and label it as DID education.
@shatteredbones10483 жыл бұрын
@@bujomurphy how is this any different from Every single other DID KZbin Channel? I've watched several. They are All "educational" and teaching about various aspects of the disorder. It appears to me that many Mental Health Channels are using DissociaDid's NAME in their Video for no Other Reason than to Ride their Coattails. That's not okay! Imagine if People were Calling You a Fake or insinuating You Hurt the Very Community you brought attention to! It's immature and disgusting Behavior. That Grandpa Dude is mocking her and. causing a Mob Mentality to go against DissociaDid. We need to be supporting One another! Without Chloe having the COURAGE to be so vulnerable NONE of these other channels would exist! Like it or Not DissociaDid and her MILLIONS Of followers paved the way for everyone. Including this poster.
@GrandadsLounge3 жыл бұрын
How dare you, no switch caught on camera, no hypnotic music, no cringe inducing acting. Just real emotions, thoughts and feelings??? Shocking, simply shocking. Srsly tho, yes, I'm glad to hear my concerns from a year ago have finally been understood. And definitely helps having it explained by a calm american girl rather than us angry brits 😅
@megumiselina13463 жыл бұрын
The switch on camera are not forced by the way, it could be completely normal for someone who has DID, it has nothing to do with "cringe acting".
@psych0ticgem3 жыл бұрын
I have BPD and I swore after watching dissociadid I had DID instead. Learned more about BPD and you're right, they can look alike, at times. Thank you for speaking about this!
@tynellesharratt4633 жыл бұрын
Same! I had to stop watching - they felt unsafe and superficial.
@Em_Elizabeth3 жыл бұрын
Can someone have "people in their mind" with BPD? Or can that just be daydreaming on top of Borderline?
@psych0ticgem3 жыл бұрын
@@Em_Elizabeth Pls keep in mind I'm no dr. Just someone who has bpd.. but I thought there were ppl in my head once. I still refer to different mind states. We can age regress, which can look like an alter. We can go thru uncontrolled fits of rage that also look like a different person. I've even been told "that wasnt you" but it was. If we lose time, we dont lose time in the same way those with DID do..
@lorigrace52573 жыл бұрын
Yo same! I went through a really long term bpd episode and I was convinced I had DID after watching their channel. I'm relieved I'm not the only one.
@AngelCaz73 жыл бұрын
same here!! i used to watch them before they became more known, so they were the introduction of DID to me. I wasn’t diagnosed with BPD yet, but especially with age regressing i thought “i probably have DID then?” not only that, i dissociate all the time. come to find out i don’t, but i was fully convinced. I didn’t know what BPD was until i got diagnosed and so i thought the psychiatrist was lying :|
@apis74803 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. My system has been hurt too much by DissociaDID and unfortunately, some alters split to cope with the damage done to them. What really pisses me off, as a protector, is to see Kyle encouraging minors to simp for him! I'd never do that shit to any minor because I do not want anyone to ever go through an adult taking advantage of their time and minds. DID isn't a game or some form of "playing dress up" to appease viewers. I hope their fans notice this instead of writing off systems and those who got hurt by DissociaDID as "haters". Thank you for emphasising how DID isn't fun and games. It really isn't -- it's a disorder. When you talked about journalling being a massive trigger for your system, we honestly can relate.
@1.brook1ynrae2 жыл бұрын
wqtching this in light of the recent events this is obviously not a hate video. wishing love and peace for you into the new year
@Tottosmile3 жыл бұрын
I used to watch them a while back and found it interesting, but eventually I just started watching other DID channels instead to learn, I'm not sure why tbh. I have autism but was diagnosed in my late teens so I've grown up kind of dissociating a lot, and there's actually a lot of overlapping symptoms since I have some trauma as well. It's important when talking about mental health to explain that any diagnosis is not a one size fits all, both to validate different people with the same diagnosis, but also to validate people with similar symptoms who suffer from something else. Dissociadid never did that, at least not well enough, which causes so much confusion, even for me.
@justinemassey3 жыл бұрын
I definitely have heard disclaimers like that in more than one of their videos.
@kennie7273 жыл бұрын
I always thought that DissociaDID looked like Raven (that’s so raven) seeing the future when they switch.. They seem like they’re played up for the camera, and the ‘host’ is trying to remember what characters she plays.. or she’s forcing the switch. It seems as if they have a form of BPD, but wants to get clout by being ‘one of the first’ DID KZbinrs. They got mad at Trisha, even though she copied/mirrored one of their switches almost perfectly.
@sevyne3 жыл бұрын
Might just be my system, but I'd hate being filmed when dissociating. It's so uncomfortable, usually takes longer, and it can take a while to get grounded and often it take a while to be able to realize who's in front, there's just so much fuzziness, depersonalization, and derealization with it. Again, that's our experience. Occasionally a switch will be quick but it's usually because something is traumatic or causing ptsd and someone more equipped needs to take over quickly.
@projectkandi61503 жыл бұрын
@@sevyne some of our alters can switch quickly because they’ve known each other a long time, but it’s still a long time of not knowing where you are or really who you are. I would never force a switch while recording because that requires consent from both alters and it’s so hard to force switches. Especially in a large system like mine with many alters with similar positive triggers.
@cassienelson6033 жыл бұрын
There is also danger in suggesting that people with DID are "playing characters". That the op liked this comment is telling. This is a coded stigma against people with DID. It's not okay to use it on DID sufferers that you don't like. It puts the entire community at risk.
@kennie7273 жыл бұрын
@@cassienelson603 I am in no way suggesting that actual medically diagnosed DID patients are playing characters, simply because they aren’t. And I by no way mean to put the whole community at risk when calling out DissociaDID. But I do find it strange that their switches are so dramatic, as if they are playing different characters for KZbin. While I understand that a switch may not be as straight forward as they seem, from an outside perspective it seems DissociaDID has too many ‘excuses’ when they do switch, and the switches only happen at convient timing or when it fits the script. Of course, I’m also not a medical expert, I just wanted to clear up that I did not mean harm, I just wanted to point out that their switches appear to be dramatized as if they was playing a character in my original comment.
@TheIndigoSystem3 жыл бұрын
Why are you trying to associate them with BPD? It’s incredibly insulting to us that you put someone you deem disingenuous in line with BPD. Ableism at its finest.
@mariaamshalabi3 жыл бұрын
damn i really liked dissociaDID and watched their videos even before they were on anthony’s channel, but watching this video im realising how reliant i was on them for information while staying blissfully ignorant to other systems/people with DID’s opinions and feelings (as im seeing in the comments). im glad this was recommended to me tbh this was very useful and im gonna do my best to do my own research. also hope youre okay now im really sorry to hear how you’ve been harmed by the misinformation or misrepresentation :(
@shtupidpenguin3 жыл бұрын
Same :0
@zamm40623 жыл бұрын
This whole situation shows that if you honestly want to learn about a mental disorder, only watching one or two creators is dangerous. I don’t have DID so it’s important for me to listen to as many voices as possible. I struggle with other mental health issues and seeing them being misrepresented is so hurtful and i don’t even wanna imagine how this feels to someone with DID.. I wish you the best
@fizzarollli3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how this isn't getting around youtube more but honestly? You hit the nail right on the head!
@dexviridian3 жыл бұрын
First off I really appreciate this video, thank you for sharing your perspective! Secondly, I have BPD, and I'd like to weigh in on the symptom overlap and confusion between these two disorders. One major factor is that us Borderlines often have an unstable sense of identity. It can feel like I have a completely different personality from one day to the next, or even one situation to the next. And a lot of times, these perceived personality changes are interwoven with dissociative episodes (also a symptom of Borderline), or occur as a response to trauma. If someone isn't properly educated on DID, they might interpret this unstable personality and dissociation as evidence of alters, when that's not truly the case. I can see why it would be hard to differentiate without professional help.
@dexviridian3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I find that the theory of 'sub-personalities' describes my experience with BPD and identity pretty accurately, though it's not backed by a lot of scientific research. It posits that every individual's personality is divided into parts, and these parts present themselves as responses to different situations. Trauma and causes these parts to become more fragmented and separate, thus preventing the person from forming a single cohesive identity. DID/alters are on the extreme end of this spectrum. Borderlines may have a more fragmented and unstable identity than the average person, but we do not function the same as a DID/dissociative system would. Again, I'll reiterate my disclaimer that there's not a lot of solid research on this, but I find it interesting and relevant to my own life experience and the discussion of how trauma affects identity.
@LivsTanks2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy you shared about Trisha having BPD because I have it as well and I noticed a lot of similarities and kind of felt connected when I found her channel because of that being so good at disassociating and having your trauma feel like it’s a story that somebody told you not actually your trauma like I totally understand that but I’m surprised after all these videos have been made she still hasn’t addressed it or that I’ve seen
@i.xm.l0st3 жыл бұрын
I can relate soo hard to flooding, im not diagnosed w DID, i have complex PTSD so sometimes flashbacks get too overwhelming and my surroundings just kind of all mesh together and i feel like im suffocating
@killerwasp1023 жыл бұрын
I've got CPTSD too. I agree and it's terrifying
@i.xm.l0st3 жыл бұрын
@@killerwasp102 ive been having it happen alot more recently bc my psychi bumped up the dose on my medication and its THE WORST.
@achingaster11993 жыл бұрын
Ah. Sometimes, I think we forget Nin’s a person, too. I struggle with DR/DP. I’m confused all the time, and it hurts. It hurts so bad. I loved Nin’s videos. I wish I had her clarity, but she’s a person as well as an advocate, right?
@butasimpleidiotwizard3 жыл бұрын
You're right honestly, callout/cancel culture has caused a major problem with online criticism because the reason for criticism becomes "they're a bad person" and their actions are used as evidence towards that, when the reason for criticism is actually that they have done hurtful/problematic things, its much easier to argue that dissociaDID has done hurtful/damaging things than it is to argue that she is a terrible person who deserves hate or whatever because there is irrefutable proof that she did things that hurt people, but attacking her character for that is entirely speculation and dependent on certain philosophies about morality and whether people can even be good or bad and whether punishment even works and the list goes on and on and on. If we attack her actions we provide a clear explanation of what was wrong about her actions and why they should not be repeated by anyone, while making it clear that they could be repeated by anyone no matter how "good" or "bad". Giving her character the benefit of the doubt while still condemning her actions makes it easier for not only her but others who may be doing similar things to take accountability, reflect on their behaviour, and ultimately grow as people, because to do otherwise suggests that if she admits to and takes accountability for her actions she is condemned as a person and will never get a chance to recover from that. If her character is attacked as a result of her actions admitting to those actions and acknowledging that they were hurtful without making excuses becomes admitting that she is a bad person who deserves that hate, the only option is to defend herself, which is a pretty terrible outcome.
@tr0phyeyes1833 жыл бұрын
Hey you’re so brave for speaking about this and allowing people to know how DD affected you and the community. Also I have BPD and you’re kind of right in how splitting is similar to switching however evidently there’s no switch of an alter within BPD, you do feel like a completely different person because of how extreme emotional responses affect you. You explained it really well!
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad I was able to explain it well
@brigettea90513 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I completely agree. I have DID myself and it does not show up the way it does for dissociadid at all. As with many other systems, I have a very covert system. When I first discovered dissociadid, I really felt like I needed to dig deeper into distinguishing my alters and it had a negative impact. Trying to figure out who is fronting is just...overwhelming. And if someone were to ask me who is fronting...I just shut down. Honestly the fanfare of distinguished personalities really puts a bad taste in my mouth. It feels like a mockery of all the other symptoms and struggles that are much more prominent in this disorder. Anyway, thanks for sharing. I'm glad that others feel the same.
@Tamsin_bear3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your perspective. I have BPD and there is definitely an overlap of symptoms like you said and it can be confusing. There was a time when I questioned if I had DID (I definitely don’t, my BPD diagnosis is correct) and it scares me to think how you could end up pursuing a DID diagnosis and start thinking you have it when you don’t, which is damaging. Not enough people have talked about this! Wishing you the best in your recovery 💛
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@43CYN3 жыл бұрын
Important comment here , especially because BPD has dissociation parts too and I still question myself as well but it is the most recommended to see an actual professional before jumping into any conclusions!
@TheIndigoSystem3 жыл бұрын
You can have both.
@nova7563 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this! I watched them as a source of education while being accessed for the disorder myself. I've been a bit unsure what to make of everything lately and it's helpful to hear different perspectives on what may be going on.
@visszhang273 жыл бұрын
I can tell that this was really hard for you to make, and I appreciate you for talking about your experiences. I wish you nothing but peace and happiness 💜
@beigeimpersonator6823 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, I thought DID was exatcly how they explained it to be, but now I realised that everyone is different and respect and boundaries are really important things when mental health is mentioned in any way.
@goredilocksbloodbath30873 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. It's incredibly brave of you. DisacociaDID was my first exposure to DID and OSDD, and I've had a lot of issues detangling myself from that whole mess. It's great to see people who are sharing their stories if similar experiences.
@LOVESlCK3 жыл бұрын
I believe this is undermining her experience with DID, which is cleared out as her experience and is always specified. The experience is different for everyone, my fronting can be clear but sometimes they´re not. She´s stated before she has to prepare herself to even record. You can share your experience without pointing out flaws in her experience, DID is so broad and different for everyone. She´s stated before many times it´s only her experience, she has fun trying to love her system. Her alters are happy to be recognized as their own beings. Is it really romanticizing to love your life as a system? I love being plurar, even if it can be a nightmare thanks to my persecutors. Her content isnt harming nor should be taken as the only definition of DID, she´s stated that before. Most antis reglect their experiences against her, many being different from each other´s, so why is this really necessary? She´s an advocate for people with similar experiences, she´s said hers isnt the only one. The Dms5 changes every few years because of how broad the differences are for many people´s experiences. This is a clear definition on if this isnt for you, dont watch it. But people are denying her mental illness based on their experinces, claiming her trauma has to be only one consistent one time happenning and more. This is why I avoid most other systems experiences, I´ve related to her even if not 100%.
@LOVESlCK3 жыл бұрын
USA is the main one to have knowledge and experts in DID, south america here has barely any professinals in the topic. She is also part of the voice of DID community and shouldnt be taken as the only one just because of bigger following, which is what people are doing. She´s said herself she´s learned as the channel progresses, she´s not forced to describe the DMS5 from head to toes because she always describes DID as ¨For me it happens as.... These are the symtons I have..¨
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
@@LOVESlCKHi, I do not mean to undermine their own experiences. They say very clearly in their patreon livestream that their content is meant to educate and is not a personal channel or about their personal experiences. If their channel was a personal channel I would not have made the video. They reason their content is dangerous is because they contradict themselves so it is incredibly unclear what their channel actually is. It is confusing for kids and vulnerable people. I really just want some things addressed to create a safer environment for people
@belfry.bats.xx.3 жыл бұрын
this video really made me feel a lot better. i watched dissociadid for a long time before i realised that i have osdd, and i always felt like i was faking because my alters ans their roles aren't black and white. it took me a long time to come to terms with the fact that i have osdd, partially due to my own trauma, but also due to dissociadid's romanticisation and display of did and osdd. they're a harmful system, at the very least. they've spread a lot of misinformation about did and osdd, and it's harmed the community as well.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the video was able to help and I hope you're doing better!
@Sasuga_Skky3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! As someone who doesn't have DID nor do I know anyone with the disorder, I took what their videos said as generalisable for all people with DID. I now realise that what they were presenting was just one side of a very complex disorder, that a lot of people experience differently. Thank you for sharing this, also your hair is amazing.
@rodeo98373 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot for this. I have been watching Vangelina’s videos since this happened last year and I really enjoy seeing more and knowing more about other experiences and opinions. 👍
@sileylav3 жыл бұрын
I've been really struggling with my opinions on DissociaDID for a while now, but your video was really helpful and it kind of put my thoughts into words. Their channel has helped me with some things, but it seems like they're surrounded by a lot of trouble and I'd honestly prefer a place without that. Also you really struck a chord when you pointed out that journaling doesn't work for everyone, and that they only show one side of DID which can make others feel less valid. If you're going to keep up this channel, I'd love to see more DID content because this was so well done- content for systems, not just singlets.
@parisensore3 жыл бұрын
Great share. You added to the dialog (that does not exist on her channel.) I don't have DID but I have seen her videos and they come off as primarily entertainment with generalized and repetitive info about DID, with makeup. Nothing in them seems all that that constructive to others and nothing that seems like an exploration of her daily life or her coping with DID. It's more like a character exploration, except it's her alters, with the generalized and repetitive info that doesn't warrant the number of videos she has. All that content is there for entertainment.
@toast82 Жыл бұрын
Before we do our thoughts feel we should say. A channel that actually is a mental health service is the CTAD Clinic. They appear to be real & have a cool website. We definately agree with your experiances and thank you for talking nicely. A lot of critisisms felt so agressive we immediately disassociated and couldnt stay to hear what they meant. We'll definately watch the longer vid! Some critisisms on things that are not said (like help grounding and getting through the ugly bits) have now definately been said (for instance they go through grounding techniques now & those can be seen in some videos) but yeah, you're right they arent a resource they're trying to go through their healing journey ad share what they've learnt in impersonal ways which kinda means that they dont really handle darker topics or only base off their own experiance (not saying they dont reserch tho). They eventually also have since admitted that they struggle with thngs like filming bc they feel they do have to be clear and not disassociated which implies that they arent always clear. They also definately arent always right about their information which misinformation with such a delicate discorder is always bad. I do kinda feel it's human nature to try to hide the uglies but in unsaved livestreams we've seen some of theirs. Idk word vomitted here. I like the video, good points, they arent a very good education service really (but I've yet to really find better the CTAD clinic hasnt posted enough videos :[ )
@Sami-hw6yk3 жыл бұрын
I never knew there was such a thing as too much journaling. Only from watching this video did I come to the realization that I’m currently suffering from the aftermath of not only too much journaling, but also I did a whole fucking project in college ABOUT my journals. Analyzing every single entry, taking inventory of the contents, sharing those findings to my class and my professor lol, and then receiving their critiques on my demonstration of those findings. I now haven’t been journaling regularly in over two years after being a life-long journal person. I felt like that was part of my identity I had stripped from myself, and I was sad about it- but the idea that it’s something that’s possible to over-do makes me feel better. As if I didn’t just break my brain lol, and there’s a reason for what is happening with me right now. So I thank you for that and for the info of “flooding” (like wtf there’s a WORD for the all-consuming dooming, tysm) and for sharing your experiences. You are helping the people who watch this.
@Lucy-xr9px3 жыл бұрын
I've been reading the comments and I see many people questioning how a person can be criticised for sharing their own experience. Personally, I think this is a fair question however OP is correct in saying there is a distinguishable difference between a person sharing their own experience on a personal platform, and a person sharing it whilst claiming to be a mental health resource as Non does. I think also another issue is that, because DD is such a big DID channel and therefore the most known DID resource on youtube, there simply will always be an issue with people taking her experience to be that of everyone's with DID. As you said - the channel is really a source for people without DID, therefore it is always going to be a problem. Imo, Nin should have worked to fix this by making clear in absolutely every video (both in the description AND video itself) that she speaks from her own experience and that the symptoms etc that she references or has experience with do not necessarily reflect the wider DID community. It may seem tedious, but if she wants to be viewed as the most objective mental health resource possible as a person with DID, whilst also speaking from her own experience, it is necessary. Thank you for sharing your experience! Everyone's voice counts, and I think your points regarding overlapping symptoms and the fetishisation via the comments are particularly notable. DD uses their platform irresponsibly.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! Thank you for this
@ebonyavi3 жыл бұрын
ThNk you so much for making this post!! I really resonate when you said it feels like it’s all you but also still in parts - just the general confusion. Dissociadid never mentions it but some other did tiktokers do and the theory of structural dissociation is something i’ve been looking into myself to help soooo much. People with CPTSD can also split into parts but they are not as elaborated or emancipated as parts of a DID or OSDD system. It’s a lot to explain here but just wanted to leave this for ppl looking into it and to validate what you briefly mentioned.
@madixxoo3 жыл бұрын
I might get heat for this but honestly oh well. So much of the “anti-Dissociadid” stuff I’ve seen on KZbin and Twitter feels so insanely... either nitpicky, an assumption, or based more so on feelings than things they’ve actually done/said. They’ve never said their experience with DID is THE DID experience, they’ve made it like... really clear that a lot of their stories are anecdotal and they back that up all the time by talking about the solely scientific side of things. Also, they were/are very young (early 20s) so expecting them to be an expert and never make any mistakes ever is... a tall order to say the least and no DID creator on this platform is perfect. The issues in their personal life are honestly no one else’s business, as she (Nin) deserved the time to process what their partner did and she broke it off eventually, but it wasn’t the internet’s right to demand she do that ASAP to make YOU feel better. I’m not saying they’re a perfect system or that they’re above critique (as they’ve gotten for their issues w another system here online and a few other things) but I think the hate they get is BEYOND unnecessary. Just my two cents. edit: It’s really annoying reading these replies and seeing people trying to pin their ignorance about a disorder onto DD (like... how is it their fault you just assumed all people with DID were a monolith and their experience was the only DID experience), when no one would do that with any other mental health disorder. All they can do is speak from their POV with their experience having DID and back it up with what science they can find. I don’t understand how other people being ignorant about this is their fault.
@AriDakis3 жыл бұрын
DissociaDID has been proven fake, is not that deep, get mad at Chloe for lying
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I understand what you’re saying. I do not expect them to be perfect, but I do expect them to acknowledge when they make mistakes. Instead they try to bury fair criticism and paint it all as hate. I never spoke about their personal life, that is their own business. I’m just saying the lack of accountability along with the lack of concern for safety results in a dangerous situation for children and systems. Also some of the facts they use to prove their points are taken out of context. One i know of is the percentages they use for how common DID is has been incorrect and many of the sources they have used are questionable or even say the complete opposite of the point they’re trying to make.
@madixxoo3 жыл бұрын
@IZ Digital Piano This! They’re just sharing what they’ve found. Correcting them is one thing but saying they’re bad rep for the community for trying to find what medical science they can to back up what they’re saying is... not right imo.
@AriDakis3 жыл бұрын
@IZ Digital Piano DD spreads fake statistics and defended self diagnosis, it's Better to shut up instead of dramatizing a disorder. Plus She literally plagiarized a book for her own trauma and story
@AriDakis3 жыл бұрын
@IZ Digital Piano The fact that if you self diagnose you romanticize some mental illness plus many conditions share the same symptoms, you can't just pick DID because "it's cool friends in my head" Also no, the real DSM study is 0.5% of the population, the 1-3% rate is schizophrenia, plus DID is a covert disorder and many psychs wont ever see a legit case.
@twilighttimeasmr89623 жыл бұрын
Before all the drama started, our littles were big fans of her because they finally saw themselves in someone. But watching her really fucked with their mental health. One of her videos sent a little into a downward spiral. There were no trigger warnings or anything. We also experience many of the same things you do. We felt so fake, like we couldn't live up to the conditions she seemed to put on having DID.
@lily-hazy88233 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@naturalthemelodious3 жыл бұрын
I have been researching and studying dissociative disorders since I was about 12 years old. It took me *ten years* of being interested in DID/OSDD before I found out I *actually* had it. I say all this because, much like the people in this comment section, I didn't feel like I was right. I tried to get a diagnosis and my therapists either minimized my symptoms or ignored what I said completely and tried to diagnose me with BPD. I felt like I was lying to myself and that I had just "made all of it up" and DissociaDID, whether they knew it or not, contributed to it. When you have a platform and are speaking on behalf of a community, you have an obligation to fulfill by sharing as many voices as you can. At least Jess from Multiplicity and Me has the decency to say, "Hey! I understand that for our videos, we may misrepresent what it's like to have DID and you should know that our experience is not the *only* experience."
@JesusLightsYourPath7 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this. I know it must be difficult and scary to talk about. I believe I may have D.I.D. but I am going to therapy to determine what disorder I may have.
@TwilightsReign7 ай бұрын
good luck!! I hope you're able to find some answers
@ArtsySinger3 ай бұрын
I've watched a lot of DissociaDID's videos, and I've also watched a lot of videos from a lot of people who have bad things to say about her (both warranted and unwarranted). I think this is almost the only one that I've seen that is truly fair (and not rude, impressively enough) while still strongly disagreeing with her. And I would agree with you. I have found her content helpful overall, and I don't think that anything negative should be able to just wipe that fact away (as cancel culture would have it), but I'm also not blind to her failings. I take her content as more of an outlier experience now, and definitely sometimes "played up," but when I first found it, it was a breath of fresh air, because it was the first time I had seen anyone showing/describing actual daily experiences with the disorder. Also, I have been struggling for the past year and a half (at least) with the idea that I may have some form of DID/OSDD. It is a deeply distressing issue for me, and this attempt to get answers/solutions has essentially wrecked my life. I didn't find DissociaDID or any other DID creator until at least a year into this process, because that's not how this problem was brought to my attention, and I didn't even realize that it was an option to find that kind of content. I didn't even know that it's been "trendy" for the past few years, because apparently I've been living under a rock or something (I've been online, but clearly not in any area where that is the case). The way that you described your experience is very relatable to me, especially the parts about journaling and flooding, and about feeling like one person whose life is chopped up. That last part especially - I keep coming back to this thought process that goes, "Well, my life feels very disjointed, and I've been trying (and failing) my whole life to make it be cohesive, but I can't have this issue because I don't black out, except for that one time that I did, and the other time when I forgot the place I had been attending for seven years just a few weeks after I left it, but that doesn't mean anything, because nothing traumatic happened there..." and etc. I haven't seen any of your other videos yet, but I subscribed. Also, I just wanted to say that seem like a very sweet person. :)
@cupcakewithouttheicing3 жыл бұрын
I'd discovered dissociaDID through Anthony Padilla and, at the time, I watched their videos to learn more about DID, since I knew nothing about it before. Tonight, I went back to their channel to see how they've been doing lately, and discovered a bunch of other videos speaking very negatively about dissociaDID, but none of them were able to explain the situation as clearly as you did. Thank you!
@user-jv9sb8iu7h3 жыл бұрын
FLOODING. THANK YOU. I never had a name for it and now I do. THANK YOU. I was recently diagnosed and as much as I love dissociaDID, it was really messing with me that I didn't fit in *their* box... If that makes sense(?) Like yeah. Journaling does NOT work for me.. lol
@quarantinecurls98003 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I feel you described how and why DD isn't helping the DID community very well. Especially the safety aspect is so important. Getting diagnosed or being in the process of getting a DID diagnose is a very difficult time, tons of stuff might come up, the whole system might get unstable, symptoms might get worse. You have to be so careful. I've heard from some people with DID that watching DD confused them, made them doubt themselves, made them feel like a failure. Because they didn't have that kind of knowledge about their alters, that level of control or that kind of functionalty even after years of therapy. I agree that the channel never seemed to be for people with DID, there was hardly anything truly helpful. And its very telling that Dissociadid disowned and left the DID community after criticism got louder and some people wanted her to take responsibility for the hurt she caused. It's a bit sad I met some wonderful people who could potentially make great content to help other pwDID and create actual awareness and give good advice for friends & family. But they're not the persons to do YT. So seeing people like you going public, sharing thoughts, feelings and advice is wonderful and needed.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
Exactly it’s a very vulnerable time! It is very telling they left the community when people just wanted them to address some issues. I don’t think people were angry at first, but then it being put off just made people more and more upset. For a long time I thought I was just putting my own problems onto them, but as I heard more and more people had similar experiences I realized it was more a pattern than us just projecting. Thank you for your comment!
@chibi-bombyx3 жыл бұрын
[EDITED: for spelling, typos, and grammar] Thank you so much for speaking up! I used to have DID and her videos really triggered me. I put in so much work in trauma therapy with doctors and therapists and trying to talk about my experiences with friends irl... so hard and so stigmatized. It endorses and promotes farther splitting too... all these assumptions. When I see “switch on camera! Meet my alters!” Videos my first thoughts were always... “oh my gosh... if I were to do that... I’d have to go put myself out in dangerous situations I’m not ready for to trigger myself to switch” my heart would sink. I’d feel an uneasy pit in my stomach... especially since when I was in highschool I’d have friends “switch” as a sort of LARPing of DID. I think they were just copying mannerisms, or trying to make me feel comfortable in a misplaced way? I know of two people in my highschool who I think genuinely did have it too, and (in my not professional opinion) I could tell a subtle difference between both types of situations. Most of us get misdiagnosed with bipolar disorders, all sorts of things, before getting to a proper diagnosis. Many of my alters would frequently forget even having DID. There’s nothing scarier than waking up somewhere totally different, minutes, days, weeks of time lost. Screaming at someone you love... and not sure why you’re doing it. Waking up in strangers houses. Or calling the police on yourself because you think one of your teenage alters may have agreed via manipulative tactics to send nudes to a supposed blackmailing minor. This is not everyone’s experience with DID. It’s also so easy to essentialize this sort of stuff and boil it down to lose the reality of the scary or dangerous situations and experiences when no one wants to talk about it. I’ve felt like simultaneously too overt and not overt enough when viewing the internet. It’s still too scary for me to make a video like this... I saw it happening even before I encountered DissociaDID... and I didn’t speak out. I do actually disagree a little bit when it comes to Trisha. Borderline symptoms can be comorbid and she’s opened up a bit about her trauma and gender dysphoria... maybe I’m biased because my experiences were sort of similar (I don’t think I had borderline personality but I was approaching there in my lower points) it sounds like she got really gaslit (imo) by Blaire White and DissociaDIDs responses. Though I can’t be sure. I’ve made a ton of videos like that over time making fun of the absurdity of the sort of videos about DID. Very parodying with fake alters to make a point but trying not to traumatize myself or switch (I did switch though, and my alters were too close to the ideas I was poking fun at on a personal level for me to feel comfortable sharing and I couldn’t have ever sat down and edited a full a video) I never posted them. But I heavily considered it.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if she did have a dissociative disorder, but just from what I know for sure i know the video wasn’t coming from a bad place. I think it’s a good example bc even if Trisha was wrong about the disorder- it never seemed like DissociaDID asked herself why people may be getting confused/jumping to self diagnosing after watching their content
@chibi-bombyx3 жыл бұрын
@@TwilightsReign yeah for sure TT^TT
@imisspangaea65593 жыл бұрын
about trisha - shes a troll. from what i know about her, shes fully aware she doesnt have the disorders she claims to have on her channel. she does it for attention, which she gets. when she claimed to have DID, she most likely thought she was following a trend of sorts, i do not believe she actually thought she had it. while i do agree she has borderline symptoms, i believe she was doing it as a quick way to get attention. its what shes known for.
@chibi-bombyx3 жыл бұрын
@@imisspangaea6559 the idea that someone having DID automatically means they would never make trolling videos is baffling to me. Reread my comment please? I know it’s long, and I’m autistic so it might be confusing at points, you don’t have to read it if you don’t want to.
@MusaKitty3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to say this as loving as possible. If you look to KZbin for help with emotional issues or physical please stop. Not everyone is the same. Not everyone can be trusted. Not everyone reacts the same. If you want to learn to cope. Please find a medical professional. Read a book. Research If you can but take most videos on KZbin with a grain of salt. I again am saying this as a person who has used KZbin as a way to cope with emotional issues I have, doing so I sadly went backwards taking advice from people I thought were in the same shoes, if that makes sense? But I find with most disorders you can find your way if you "talk" to yourself as in journal but in your mind? Example when I have an anxiety attack I will sit for hours and talk to myself on what is going on, then how do I avoid all the stress, what should be done if that doesn't work, should I cry about it? Can I deal? Is it okay? Then when I am done I just write about it and give it to my therapist. If you don't have a therapist my advice is to find someone who knows someone in your shoes and talk to them. Just be safe guys is all I am saying.
@veronicae22913 жыл бұрын
You're making some good points, however if you look at Nins videos, you see a prime few alters who front, they are rather distinct in the way they act, and they are the alters who have been around the longest, so them being able to discern who is fronting and who is co-con, isn't too strange to me. Should they however had made it clear that their videos are meant to help other people without D.I.D understand what it can be like to live with D.I.D? Absolutely. And I also think that they should take responsibility for what they've done. They always mentioned system responsibility, but they don't seem to take it them selves.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
that's true. and someone else did mention that they probably just don't film while they're having bad dissociative episodes which is something I didn't keep in mind. The lack of accountability and clarity is what made me make this video. I feel like if they had just addressed it and moved on it wouldn't have turned into what it is.
@lunarumbreon74203 жыл бұрын
Hmm I'm inclined to listen to what you say because there's a shiny Umbreon in the background
@evelyncheese79003 жыл бұрын
There have been many systems who feel violated by her because of her stealing their trauma stories and making them her own, etc. I feel like, why are people still defending her over others? Just because of her fame?
@LasaiLasaiZGZ3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Even stealing their alters...That is just sick. Hugs ❤ -Carlota.
@Joy61683 жыл бұрын
I’ve been hearing this as well. Is that true? If so, that’s disgusting!
@maggotlord79343 жыл бұрын
Love ur hair and makeup! thank you for this video. i am one of the ones who has BPD, thinking i had DID, trying to accomodate- this is all good to know. as you said, I wish this info was not filtered out by DissociaDID.
@kdemarco20103 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I'm the odd man out obviously because I am the opposite of all the other comments I've read and this to me sounds like you trying to blame somebody else because when you felt like there was something wrong with you, you went to a stranger on the internet for information and they didn't give you ALL of the information you needed about your specific personal situation and you want to blame them for that. When everyone knows no matter what's wrong with you it's not the same for every person. The flu is not the same for every person, depression is not the same for every person, and DID is not the same for every person. And you are judging somebody because they didn't talk about the symptoms that you experience and they describe things that they do experience and you don't experience therefore they are not useful. And yet not one time did anyone say she was a doctor she said she's someone with dissociative identity disorder so why would everyone assume oh this person knows everything about the disorder absolutely every single thing because they have it. When I see someone like that on the internet talking about something that relates to me I see them as a fellow person that I can get information from to utilize to talk to my doctor about or things to keep in mind but I'm not going to use this person off KZbin to diagnose me I'm not going to take every word they say like an instruction manual to my disorder. They don't have to be perfect they don't have to say all the right things because they aren't a doctor they are another person with DID and that's it. I mean did you not say that watching their videos opened your eyes to the disorder and then you talk to your doctor about it? That's the whole point so if you knew to go to your doctor from the beginning to get a diagnosis why continue to take information and blame them for being wrong when it could be right for them because again everything is different for everyone... I don't know that just seems ridiculous to me 🤷
@_k_n_3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY. It's very strange to blame them for Trisha's shitty behavior or anyone self diagnosing. Even stranger to be upset that they didnt speak about a whole other mental illness when they were only talking about DID. God, I don't want to be in the position of even kind of defending Nin&Co but the more I listened the stranger I found these takes.
@twistedbliss583 жыл бұрын
Literally this. These people are making no sense saying they have been hurt and traumatized I have no idea what they are on about. Hurt and traumatized by someone else speaking about their own experiences and what applies to them? People so desperately want to blame others for something going on with them nowadays it's ridiculous.
@bridgetjean75443 жыл бұрын
hi, I'm a person who doesn't have DID and I previously followed DissociaDID. I found your video super insightful. Thank you so much. I always felt that their portrayal of DID was somewhat whimsical and the content they put out was some of the only exposure that I and I'm sure others like me had seen. DissociaDID seriously skewed my perception of DID and I'm so glad that people are speaking out and helping to re-educate the KZbin mental health community on DID. Thank you again and have a lovely day :)
@EbonGra133 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video - I thought you addressed all these concerns very well, and as a non-DID person, it made a lot of sense. I did start watching DissociaDID a while back out of curiosity but in more recent times had gotten the feeling of...wongness? from their videos. Now it makes more sense why. I'd love your thoughts on MultiplicityAndMe, as another DID education channel, but one that (again, from my limited knowledge as a non-DID person) seems more accurate and helpful. Please take care of yourself!
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I would recommend their channel. I haven't seen many of their videos, but the ones I have seen have been very helpful and consistent with the things I've learned in treatment. Also they're good about fixing/addressing mistakes or misunderstandings when they're pointed out
@1917yee3 жыл бұрын
I have BPD but I have questioned that diagnosis for a few reasons....i think ultimately the way DID is portrayed in media and on youtube really makes dissociation hard to grasp for people who don't experience it. Maybe that why Nin appeals to people who don't dissociate and specifically ppl without DID/OSDD. It's exotic and cool when really, not knowing what to do when you're dissociating is distressing and upsetting, at least for me. Idk i liked what you had to say as someone with BPD for what it's worth.
@Tamsin_bear3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comment. I also have BPD and I have pretty severe and persistent dissociative episodes. I could go a whole day in a state of derealisation. I don’t have DID or OSDD but I know from my own experience that dissociation is confusing, often distressing and isn’t always neat and tidy like Dissociadid presents. From what I understand, with DID/OSDD you can feel dissociated and switchy for hours and it can be really difficult to deal with. Not just 2 minutes before you switch and suddenly you are fine again.
@1917yee3 жыл бұрын
@@Tamsin_bear thanks for this comment. all of that feels so familiar but im afraid to go back in for a new diagnosis. i feel like a lot of personality disorders and other conditions overlap significantly which is why i really liked how the video talked abt how nin doesnt really talk about coping mechanisms. what works for people with BPD can work with people with DID and vice versa. we have a lot of similar symptoms but the conversation rarely centers how to cope with them.
@starsystem71313 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with everything that you have said, and think that you are brave for putting this out there when there are so many with opposing views. Well done.
@MaliaMydnight3 жыл бұрын
Never be afraid to speak out, dear. If it effects you and your system, then it does. No shame or blame. Big hugs and support to you and your system! 💜
@mirimiriela4803 жыл бұрын
I have a close family member with DID, and while I can't speak for what goes on in my family member's head, I can say that it appears to have little in common with how DissociaDID's system seems to work. And yeah, a big one is that I'd never ask who's fronting, and if I did for some reason, I don't think there'd be an answer anyway. I've only ever been told about a couple of alters and only in passing, and the entire point of them was that they were very fragmentary and not whole fully fleshed out personalities. DissociaDID has only mentioned once or twice in passing that they don't discuss those more fragmentary parts on their channel, but it seems to me that if you wanted to help people or help people understand, those small fragments that perhaps only store one sense's experience of one memory would be far more important to focus on.
@LOVESlCK3 жыл бұрын
all systems work different.
@eftanaziq3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why there's an issue with one person sharing their experience on youtube. :? Not everyone's experience has to be the same. You can share your own story without telling others their wrong and not doing it right. I feel you are kinda doing the things you are accusing the other girl doing. I don't believe the girl carries responsibility for the other people invading your personal space. I'm just confused by this video :?? The girl is not specialist in DID or any other psychological issue and she has never claimed to be..
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
I do not have an issue with someone sharing their personal experience. If their channel was a personal channel I would not have made this video. They claim to be a mental health educator and they call their business a mental health resource which can be incredibly misleading. I do not blame them for people's actions. The effect their channel has had on people has been brought to their attention many times through comments and messages and they get ignored/deleted which is inappropriate for an educational channel
@parisensore3 жыл бұрын
It's barely personal experience. It's personal, but not about her experience deeply. I know very little about her DID experience day to day. It's mostly her alters on display. More like character exploration, except it's alters exploration. It comes off as entertainment.
@esra000003 жыл бұрын
i'm not a member of the DID family but thank you for this! i was trying to learn more and this for sure is a great and sincere explanation for a lot of people
@TheCryptidSystem3 жыл бұрын
We really relate to how they affected you and your system- it’s important to address all that
@catq68643 жыл бұрын
Actually splitting is a very different experience for what I know. I’ve been diagnosed with BPD at one point (got changed to c-PTSD). Splitting is basically this black and white thinking, where you cannot really recognize that other people can show “paradoxical” behaviours. For example.. your partner may be mad at you or criticize you for a certain behavior (not as a person) - but of course they still love you. Now in my experience, for me this feels like “he hates me.. he doesn’t love me.. I should’ve known. I don’t need him anyway”. And it can change within a minute. So it’s this this extreme black and white thinking and the emotions that come with it.
@dreamingangel183 жыл бұрын
I dont tell anyone I have different alters because they're so used to 'me being me' that it would be too confusing. I cant tell you who's fronting, but I can tell you there's at least 3 that do a lot and handle different aspects of life, basically. There's one that used to, but she (who refers to herself as the 'original') locked herself up with most of the traumatic memories and continues to force her way in to take control when something is deemed 'too traumatic' for anyone else to handle and I dont remember any concrete details of what she took over for except that it happened. I usually dont talk about it, because everything functions more or less how it's supposed to, but it's my experience
@alatea40683 жыл бұрын
I also feel it is a highly private matter, it is the way my brain is organized, and I don't want other people to know details about it.
@dreamingangel183 жыл бұрын
@@alatea4068 I agree, but I also dont have a problem talking about it if someone who's interested asks. I have a coworker who's in school for psychiatry and she asked me about how I function just because my mental state as a whole is interesting to her. Telling someone that doesnt need to know/doesnt have understanding is too much for me.
@alatea40683 жыл бұрын
@@dreamingangel18 I'd say it is a good thinking, and I am glad for you, I hope to get to that point as well. My husband knows about my fragmentation, but I do not go into details, as I feel it is triggering for him. I didn't go into details with my therapist either, as I felt it is of no consequence for my healing. Perhaps that is the next stage:)
@maddiebergeron9183 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for a video like this!!! An actual real account of someone’s experience with DID. It makes the fakers look so much more obvious
@maddalenapierini42033 жыл бұрын
To be honest I see and agree with some parts of your speech but her channel is made to spread awareness on DID or, else said, THEIR experience with DID maybe her system doesn't feel comfortable in showing or talking about certain symptoms. Also seeing a video about DID does not mean that you should do an auto diagnosis, it's up to you to follow the right path in order to have a right diagnosis, not watching a video and say "hey I have this symptom, so I have for sure did" it doesn't work like that I hope this comment isn't harsh or offensive, I would just like to share my thoughts about that in a constructive way
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
Hi thank you for your comment. I would like to start by saying I did not just diagnose myself- I have followed the "right path" and brought it up to my doctors and therapists first. They believed me, but didn't have the proper training to treat me so I had to move to get treatment. DissociaDID was correct about how difficult it can be to find help. They have said themselves that their channel is not a personal channel, but an education channel. Their website is a mental health resource. They are not clear about what their channel actually is and it is confusing, especially for vulnerable people. I would not have made a video if it was just a personal channel talking about their own experiences.
@maddalenapierini42033 жыл бұрын
@@TwilightsReign thank you for answering me! Of course my comment was not direct towards you directly but in general, like we should always ask help to the doctor first and not believe 100% what we see on the internet. I think that even though it's a en educational channel it's normal that there could be some parts of this neurological condition which are not so talked about in the channel for whatever reason. But I see what you saying! Internet can always be dangerous, especially for more vulnerable people, so we should all be very careful, always💜
@alijane66753 жыл бұрын
Her channel isn't made to spread awareness. Her channel exists to make money, and catapult her to fame. She does not have DID.
@maddalenapierini42033 жыл бұрын
@@alijane6675I don't agree with you. I think your comment is quite unrespectful and without any proof. Do you have the incontrovertible proof she does not have DID? If you have okay but if not it's very impolite to say.
@HypnoRhymes3 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about them, I watched just a couple videos... However I have BPD and they don't look so similar to me. Ok there is splitting and there are dissociative moments, but it's different. I act as I was a different person and I feel like my emotions and even my thoughts are switching to an opposite, but I know it's always me.
@therookesystem39303 жыл бұрын
I honestly completely agree most of our system has been struggling for a long time because they always want to feel like separate people and like we should all be totally different from the host. Which makes me so anxious because Im a lot like the host when it comes to a lot of things and the rigid boundaries we where taught has harmed us so much because its not like that for us -Kerze (The Rooke System)
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing. I hope you all are able to continue moving forward and healing!
@espressogoblin3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is how I feel about journaling and I’ve never heard anyone else talk about it. TY for sharing. I also appreciate you talking about the overlap of different disorders as I have DP/DR and there really isn’t visibility into that. Once I tell someone I dissociate, they jump to thinking I have DID. And I don’t mind explaining the difference, but I don’t want to offend someone who does have DID if that makes sense. Anyways this is a great video on ptsd and dissociative disorders. Sending love and support.
@CyanideSunshines3 жыл бұрын
Does it not depend on the individual?
@cassienelson6033 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. You're seeking to blame DissociaDID for the reactions of others. They have never claimed to be a licensed psychologist. They link educational resources, but often specify that this *is* their personal experience. You mention people self diagnosing. That isn't something people are supposed to do for any disorder. A licensed professional needs to be involved. DissociaDID's experience might resonate with you, but that's the sort of realization you take to a therapist. They even state, numerous times, that they do not want to romanticize DID. They talk about legitimately horrible experiences tied to their DID. They are by no means ever saying anything to the effect of "Look at this cool disorder. You might have it too!" You're framing them counter to everything I've seen. You cannot resent them for what *you* chose to do with their content. This is like conservatives shutting down gay advocates because "people might decide they're gay if they watch these videos." It's not something that happens. Instead, people who were already lgbtq+ feel the courage to start asking questions, and eventually come out. Neurodivergent people also deserve to exist and to tell their stories. If viewers suspect themselves to be neurodivergent because of it, that's *their* journey to take. Would you prefer no one questions anything? That neurodivergent people continue to quietly ignore their needs? I'd rather we have voices out there advocating change. If you feel you have a mental disorder, and mental health advocates help you to realize this, you should not be taking their experience as gospel. You should be seeking appropriate help. I continue to be baffled by the aggressive backlash that DissociaDID receives, when they seem to have the best of intentions.
@AriDakis3 жыл бұрын
DissociaDID has been proven fake, is not that deep, get mad at Chloe for lying
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
They're channel is not their own personal experience with DID. They say this themselves in their patreon live stream They have reached out to struggling people on Tik Tok recommending their videos and implying they may have DID without even mentioning professional help. The have written essays in support of self diagnosis. Again, mixed messages. They contradict themselves about what their channel is and what they do and it creates a dangerous situation for individuals that are vulnerable. I had a therapist and brought it to them. They did what they could, but they didn't know how to treat the disorder so I looked to DD. I now realize that was a mistake. I am not trying to discredit their experiences or silence them. I was just sharing what happened to me so other people in my position don't do what I did. I'm not saying I am perfect or that they should be. It doesn't matter what their intentions are when they're content is hurting people. I don't want to see them gone I just want them to address mistakes they've made to create a safer environment.
@TheIndigoSystem3 жыл бұрын
@@AriDakis no they’d been fake claimed. And their name is Nin. Regardless if you like them or not be respectful about their name.
@AriDakis3 жыл бұрын
@@TheIndigoSystem Chloe's name is not Nin and she plagiarized a book for her system "Those weren't butterflies" and "The illuminati formula for a mind controlled slave", plus she got "diagnosed" by remy aquarone which is a known scammer who basically does pay-for-diagnosis commissions. She lied about abuse and her own so claimed condition, she exploited her fans and hasn't been sending patreon rewards for over a year. Plus, First Person Plural , the charity organization in which sh'es associated, is a pedo ring who led a woman to suicide. Do your research.
@TheIndigoSystem3 жыл бұрын
@@AriDakis they changed their name to Nin. I didn’t say anything about that other stuff did I? I saw the stuff about that book. But some of my alters have names that they likely took from movies etc as it’s my subconscious data bank. Not a whole book like that but fictive alters are a thing too
@oliverxhmll3 жыл бұрын
As someone with bpd I understood that trisha thinking she had DID was caused by bpd identity disturbance. So I'm glad you mentioned it.
@callievanoordt39673 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I feel, about not knowing and feeling blurry and struggling with journaling. I've questioned for a while if I have did or OSDD and I know I need to try and figure it out but it's so overwhelming and I'm so scared of the real world after all the trauma. Ty for your views. I agree w a lot of them
@caramellow50713 жыл бұрын
This video was really validating about some things I felt weird for experiencing so thank you! I am not diagnosed with anything yet but I have a therapist appointment soon so I can be sure what is happening and how to help it
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
I hope it all goes well and you’re able to find some answers
@Bon-jk5fx3 жыл бұрын
Okay, i feel so bad right now. Didnt even seen the video but DissociaDID was the source of information I trusted for learning more about this disorder (i'm really interested in disorders, especially this one) but at the same time, i'm not going to believe a rumour ever again, especially when the system/person in question is not around. This things could ruin someone's life and honestly, i don't believe it. Just stay neutral this time.
@magdacj3 жыл бұрын
I found this video really useful and helpful to learn about what DID can be like. I have CPTSD too. Please make more videos! You have a very down-to-earth nature which makes your video really refreshing to watch.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
thank you! I'm glad it was helpful :)
@Luna44273 жыл бұрын
I actually had a very similar experience to you, I found DissociaDID in late 2018 and found myself relating to most all symptoms. Because of where I live and fanatical issues, I don't have the resources to get professional help or a diagnosis. I did try journaling, I have many times in my life, but I found that it didn't help in the way that I needed and caused me more stress day to day. I hope that this gets to more people, I know it definitely would have helped me back then.
@kavitadeva3 жыл бұрын
Hi. You know I think you have a couple of things confused or maybe not enough information. So if you look into different psychiatric forums, books on DID or a very highly aware therapist who deals with DID on a continual basis i have learned that indeed Alters do have a whole separate Life as a whole separate entity or person. One alter maybe a male with black hair green eyes Caucasian what have you. And then another alter will be a woman with all different characteristics sexuality Etc. From what I understand in all my research it is not what you said. You intimated that DID and DissociaDID does not have distinctly separate people or altars within the system. However I think you're bringing up a really good point how certain disorders such as BPD have similar symptoms as someone with DID but they are obviously nothing alike on a deeper level. Saying they fetishize the disorder is a little bit beyond what I think they're actually doing. Well they're not on YT anymore so you don't have to worry.
@allie547743 жыл бұрын
I relate to you! I felt bad for no longer supporting dissociadid, as her & multiplicity&me helped me to realise i actually have OSDD, i also knew i had cptsd but wasnt aware i also had osdd. But also i did worry i was faking or felt like my symptoms should have been more obvious because of the nature of dissociadids videos. It really took me a while to see why people were so against her & then yeah i felt alot of guilt for stopping watching her because she was part of me realising my osdd diagnosis. I still dont hate her or anything but such a huge platform for DID there are some problems she really should address & try to work to do better.
@natatatm3 жыл бұрын
folks, no matter how you feel about dissociadid, it isn't okay to use incorrect pronouns. when they refer to their entire system, they consistently use they/them pronouns, however i see A TON of people in the comments using she/her to refer to them as a whole. if you think that they are faking you have the right to that opinion, however using incorrect pronouns to refer to them isn't just hurting them, it's hurting everyone else who uses they/them pronouns as well
@natatatm3 жыл бұрын
also, while you can have the opinion they're faking, none of us have any idea. literally none of us. and, as many have said is an issue in their videos (and it is!), it is unfair to say that any disorder looks the same for everyone or that you can capture the whole of a person's experience with a disorder in a video. there are major issues with the way dissociadid has run their channel, but please stop talking about them faking as if that's confirmed and not just a theory, because none of us know that and none of us will ever know that (probably).
@SomethingwithaZ3 жыл бұрын
In the most respectful way possible it just sounds like a lot of ignorance. Of course the way they experience their disorder isn’t going to be the same for everyone. She also shouldn’t be looked at as a professional on the matter. That is for your doctors and you to discuss. I think her channel is very informative to those without the disorder but again. Ignorance comes in when people try to make comments that are disrespectful. KZbin isn’t a place for medical advice, Nin should not be shunned for sharing her own experience because “that’s not what other people experience” that should be the fault of the person trying to compare themselves to her situation. I don’t browse KZbin looking for answers on my mental health issues, I medicate and see a therapist every week. As for the Trisha thing, that girl also thinks she’s a chicken nugget so. We all know for a fact she was clout chasing.
@TwilightsReign3 жыл бұрын
While I agree in the ideal situation it is for me and my doctors and therapists to discuss, but many people don't have that luxury. I had been seeing a therapist weekly for several years and once they realized I had DID they were so afraid of treating me incorrectly. I had to move across the US to get treatment. I would not have made this video if DissociaDID did not call themselves as a mental health educator. Their channel is not marketed as their own experience with DID but as a resource to learn about it- their business is classed as a mental health service. Yes, I should have realized that they didn't have the credentials to give advice, but when they are marketing themselves as a resource I'm sure I'm not the only one that was mistaken. My issue was not that I didn't feel represented- It's that many things are left out of their advice and with all of the censorship it creates a dangerous situation.
@hashtagspandas40703 жыл бұрын
DissociaDID is probably the biggest compulsive liar on KZbin 😆
@SomethingwithaZ3 жыл бұрын
@@TwilightsReign I totally get it and how you and many people could have been misled. I just feel like there is many groups out there for pretty much anything that we can all find and share experiences with a multitude of people because disorders and traumas are different case by case. I would never trust just some channel on KZbin for anything. Even something as silly as reviews of a product. This person we are watching might say they hate it but many people have different experiences with a product. If you haven’t already I would try to locate a DID support group, I think that may be super helpful. I myself am in the process of locating a support group for some trauma.
@SomethingwithaZ3 жыл бұрын
@@hashtagspandas4070 everyone on this platform is a compulsive liar. We shouldn’t have so much faith in what we watch on KZbin. 😊
@hashtagspandas40703 жыл бұрын
@@SomethingwithaZ oooof that’s just not true
@alexfraze120873 жыл бұрын
Hello! I wanted to pop by and tell everyone: RESEARCH COLIN A. ROSS AND HIS STUDIES. He basically proves everything that systems have been claiming for DECADES is true, by pointing out the strong man arguments through every step. He breaks down every logical fallacy and goes further beyond. He has helped me so much with my doubt and denial. Also, he's partially responsible for a bunch of the advocacy since the 80s, which is pretty rad if you ask me.
@laurapaskavitz26893 жыл бұрын
I hear you & want to support you in your experiences. I feel much the same way about DissociaDID. I was very confused about how I was experiencing my DID. I didn't feel valid. I agree that her videos were more for people who wanted to learn about DID not for people with the disorder. Unfortunately a lot of the information is incorrect. That's damaging to everyone. Keep on keeping on. This is a tough journey.