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[@blameitonjorge]

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[@ThisGuyDannyyy]

Happy 100th Video!

[@ThisGuyDannyyy]

Believe or not, but this is the 100th video he uploaded on his channel.

[@Saint_Dan132]

thanks mate, really enjoy your lost media content as you probably know by now, i hope all is good

[@FurKid_the_Gg_roo_99]

Happy 100th!

[@EddieBurke]

Thanks for shouting out the archive!

[@mayathepsychiic]

"2014, which was 9 years ago" the real scariest part of this video

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Feel old yet!?

[@rudilangley849]

@NES do you just spend all your time commenting sad things on blameitonjorge videos or what?

[@20piecemcnuggets27]

Did you know that we may not be able to watch old videos

[@5ashll303]

Yeah

[@tone_valentine]

😂😂😂

[@cf1925]

The fact Melanie's father wasn't immediately arrested and an investigation launched into the community is sickening.

[@IAmFromTheYear]

It's all fake lol. How do people not realise this?

[@sokaize]

@@k.o.h3599 freedom of religion doesn't allow you to do some of the revolting stuff described

[@starrcoww6763]

⁠@@IAmFromTheYear says its fake, give no explanation as to how it is

[@QueenOfTheConsole]

@@k.o.h3599 polygamy itself is illegal.

[@k.o.h3599]

@@sokaize that's antisemitic. Bigot!

[@alphadragonwolfwarrior6373]

Melanie is absolutely courageous for going on a TV program to expose the abuses her father and the community put her through. I hope wherever she is now, she has found peace and healing in her life.

[@nohandlefound.]

The $500,000 probably helps

[@fluffyfour]

If a camera with pictures taken inside the towers was found in someone's pocket, I would take it to mean that person wanted it to be found and their story known. Keeping it secret defeats that object. I can understand they may be sensitive to the families of anyone else in the pictures, but maybe they wanted their own story 'told' too.

[@rustneversleeps85]

Who cares what a dead person wants, it's the living that have to live with it. The dead will be fine either way

[@joemamr710]

The only people who truly have rights are the dead. The living are the slaves who must contend with what the dead want until the time of their death.

[@kida5004]

@@rustneversleeps85 weirdo

[@kida5004]

@@joemamr710 wtf are you going in about?

[@jessicaschantz5707]

I’m assuming a camera found on a jumper that died jumping from the 70 something floor or higher doesn’t have any film that could be retrieved. But maybe there’s something on there from the inside with him holding a note to his loved ones saying goodbye, and honestly that should be given to their loved ones and is no one else’s business

[@allisonwhatthe4862]

I highly respect for Melanie exposing an abusive lifestyle that she has to go through. She is such a brave woman.

[@SuperSonic04395]

❤❤❤

[@wednesdayPrepper]

brave, yet did it for money, so… n o t b r a v e ?

[@Z3r0Sk83r]

​@@wednesdayPrepper with how horribly she was treated that's probably fair

[@avery4818]

@@wednesdayPrepper i fully respect it. she kinda deserves it. also missed the bit where it was an opportunity to shed light on this community as well.

[@generalgk]

Maybe she should have gone to the police instead of a tv show

[@axlrivera5277]

Moment of Truth had a Peruvian counterpart here in Perú called 'El Valor de la Verdad', where the first contestant (a young woman) was in a kinda embarassing situation involving adultery to which she wasn't bothered or affected, among the people who were on the side was her boyfriend (or husband, can't remember), the woman ended up winning the prize, only to be murdered days later by her boyfriend/husband. The murder made the show explode in popularity.

[@andydow6427]

I expected it to be this story when it started

[@loli_cvnt5622]

That's exactly like that one hairdresser's episode could've ended, but instead my man walked away like the King he is.

[@sebasxdxxd]

Yess, I've also made a comment about that.

[@mango-fq6tk]

@@venomousicon8855 change and grow as a person

[@CRAgamer]

​@mango if you're gonna cheat you deserve the consequences.

[@realbrickbread]

I'm German, and decided to look into the "Teddybear man" case a little. As you mentioned, there was a woman who claimed to have seen a Talkshow in 1988 about a mother who was searching for her son. I looked it up but only found this (kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5LOm4mPg9hoiKs) german video about a mother who's son dissappeared in 1982. She was unclear of his whereabouts for 34 years, but the show actually found out where he lived and reunited them. Turns out he ran away because of his dad emotionally abusing him. By the time of the supposed talk show in 1988, the son was already missing for 6 years. Maybe she was on that Talkshow? I didn't find much else on a quick look.

[@SStupendous]

This needs a pinning 📌

[@Cedric_Harris]

I'm an archivist and lost media hunter. I've found and published some "lost media," though none of it was earth shattering, I've found VHS recordings of sporting events that were thought to be lost, etc. Anyway, this video got me thinking about two things. First, i remember watching A Moment of Truth when it came out, and I specifically remember that episode and thinking that television had really sunk to new lows. That's saying a lot, as this was around the time Fear Factor was having people eat disgusting things. Anyway, the first point brings me to the second point, I'm surprised how much lost media is relatively recent, like post-2000. It occurred to me that I might be in possession of lost media from the early days of the internet as I used to download and save hundreds videos from FTP and P2P sites in the late 90s and early 2000s. I have whole DVDs loaded with 9/11 footage that i downloaded from Kazaa and Napster. It just shocks me how much of this lost media is "new." In the early 2000s, I basically never considered that lost media would be an ongoing problem, i thought it was over with the dawn of the digital era.

[@retrin-o]

any chance you got old roblox clients?

[@iAmMadeOfSoup]

Cool! Archivist is one of my future jobs I’m considering

[@notjustforme8857]

How about the TV-Show "John Doe"? You can't get that anywhere. Must have been 2002 or something. With Dominic Purcell, nonetheless. Great show. From what I can remember.

[@YellowSalt]

could you please upload your 9/11 dvd's onto the internet archive?

[@thegoldenblob69]

Thing is, the dawn of the Internet is basically the dawn of unanimous communication, so lost media is easier to spread awareness and solve than ever before.

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

I dunno man, I feel like the Truth one shouldn't have gotten to the point where they had questions related to this poly community lined up before they realized "Hey wait we should call the cops" if they ever actually did come to that obvious realization. Kinda seems like their priorities were a bit fucked.

[@TheMedicatedArtist]

The statute of limitations probably ran out by that point. That and a lot of states allow marriage between a minor and adult with the parents’. IIRC, the minimum age can be 11 years old (though it depends on the state) and a few recent news articles about politicians voting against raising the age.

[@zozocecp]

@@TheMedicatedArtist *vomits uncontrollably* Just awful

[@catholiccontriversy]

Having seen other people talk about moment of truth, I'm surprised a show made it past the casting phase. Like, I k how people do crazy things for money, but it was like always people with super dark secrets that shouldn't be put on national TV (ar least not for entertainment).

[@MrGFloyd]

Lie detectors aren’t admissible in court

[@Markm8]

@@TheMedicatedArtist actually send them, just remove those people

[@etrs]

The idea of some no-name soviet soldiers literally finding and then killing GOD is so comical to me

[@TheAntlionGuard]

I really hope the full thing gets found. It sounds like something that could be either genuinely fascinating and terrifying, or hilariously stupid, all depending on the execution

[@misseselise3864]

same lmfaoo

[@franz.francisco]

@@jubin_ i doubt you did, but if you actually provide a link i might believe you

[@jubin_]

@@franz.francisco it seems my comment with the link somehow vanished. wtf I'm gonna try to post it again

[@jubin_]

incase I am unable to post the link again the video I got it from is called "The 10-Year Search for a Lost Creepypasta" the link is shown at 17:10 it could be that links are blocked from being posted to stop from spam bots flooding the comments

[@yourbestfriendwhosblack3211]

I remember when I was a kid around 2008-2011 there were 3 youtube auto-fill searches that creeped me out about 9/11. "9/11 Jumpers taking clothes off" "It's raining men 9/11" "I believe I can fly 9/11" I don't know wtf kind of videos those were, if they even existed, or what the heck people were searching that caused those auto search bar recommendations to trend at the time, but I'm happy I didn't press enter.

[@mostbestchannelever]

god the first search is so horrifying.

[@FuckDeezHoez]

I remember them videos too, theyre still available on some gore sites. Scary asf

[@sumpyori]

I actually remember those early searches too, I recall seeing some bad taste joke videos about the jumpers

[@IceSkreamNG]

i actually remember a kid at my after school program showing people a 9/11 suicide video and he was going to show it to me but at the time i choose to push it away from him, in hindsight now i wish i watched it or even remember who this kid was.

[@Dannysince1985]

It would have been people jumping instead of being in a crumbling to2er

[@chanze555]

There's two videos of Jumpers hitting the ground on youtube : Guy Rosbrook's Hotel footage and a 9/11 Nist video of a guy hitting a lamppost. The hotel one is pretty messed up and it's probably more graphic than "lol superman" considering it's enhanced to 4k. 14 minutes in, this poor guy clear as day smashes through the musical stage roof while you can hear his impact and the people in the other hotel rooms screaming as they witness it. This video will definitely cure your morbid curiosity if you want to know what happens to jumpers after a terminal velocity fall. It's sad to watch and i'm actually shocked this video has survived on KZbin this long.

[@Mahpoosaylips]

There’s another video from a video called 9/11 fre line and in one scene you can see a jumper landing in a staircase and the sound

[@machomanalexyt5736]

As someone who is 22, I think I understand why some people were crying while watching it live on TV at the time now. Jesus fucking christ...

[@jamesjohnson6309]

His head rolls off the stage tent as well

[@amittaizero]

​@@machomanalexyt5736 worst day of my life.

[@aetriis]

If this is on KZbin, please archive it somewhere if You didnt already. Who knows if KZbin Will find these videos and finally crack down on them

[@rhedosaurus2251]

The one Creepypasta about the Red Army killing God sounds like something you'd expect in a 1950's-early 1960's science fiction story.

[@shannon9993]

Yeah, I've read a bunch of 80s scifi shorts that would have gone right along with that too.

[@PartnershipsForYou]

That does sound pretty cool. Lol catching and skinning god

[@rhedosaurus2251]

@@PartnershipsForYou Until you find out how awful the results would be ah la God Of War 3.

[@Jhud69]

Soviets/red army were very against religion of any kind so I can kind of imagine it being some kind of a satire written by people occupied by them. Wonder if it was something like this and not just a creepypasta

[@guy-sl3kr]

@@Jhud69 They weren't against religion, they just opposed religion-based subjugation and took separation of church and state seriously. The narrative that they were like Redditor atheists comes mostly from the US, which was (and still is tbh) very pro-theocracy. Remember that this was the 1900s where Americans were using God to justify school prayers, turning all women into housewives, segregating black people, etc.

[@PepperOnPatty]

I'm extremely surprised they heard Melanie say all these things yet just said to themselves "Alright this'll be a hit. This needs to be aired." as opposed to calling the authorities right at that moment.

[@medes5597]

It only aired in two countries - UAE and Saudi Arabia because the production company bad to fulfil a contractual obligation. Everywhere else they chose not to air it. It never aired elsewhere. And Melanie said in her blog that they offered her counseling and gave the episode raw footage to the authorities. Melanie wouldn't help out. That's why very little happened. She was still very traumatised.

[@galaxieflora1078]

I don't know the full details about this case so what I'm about to say might not apply to Melanie's case, but for what it's worth there are a lot of cases of people trying to contact authorities about abuse or shady communities and it's not uncommon for them to either just give the abusers a slap on the wrist or outright ignore the case. And in some cases, authority figures are outright complacent and a part of and work together with the community, so they won't do anything (or even punish the people who spoke up about it.) I doubt this community nor Melanie was very well-known to most people, so perhaps she thought if she went on a show with millions of people watching, it could inform those people about it and have the public pressure the authorities to do something about it, as well as help people who are in these communities realize they're in a toxic environment. Like I said, this might not be the case for Melanie. It's just a theory bc I have heard of cases like this.

[@jasperjazzie]

yeah, i understand that the story needs to be out there, but a game show is definitely not the way to go about it

[@misseselise3864]

since when have tv show producers been known for their good morality?

[@NearEastMugwump]

Executives don't really think like normal people.

[@ninamason9001]

The second segment makes me want to ask my dad to help me look for my mom's old VCR recordings. For four days after 9/11 she was recording the news all the time on both our TVs (which was quite a rare thing to have at the time). The reason I say so is because it was...I think two days later, there was already a friggin' documentary out about it while the ruins were still smoking. And there was footage from the parking garage under the Towers, during the attack. My mom sent me out of the room when I asked her if the thudding sound in the video was explosions and she realized--and told me many years later, as an adult--that no, it wasn't explosions. That was the jumpers hitting the ground above the parking garage. It's absolutely horrifying footage, and I can't imagine many people saved it for that reason. But if my mom's VHS collection is still in the garage, and the tapes still work...we still have it.

[@xxfortnitegamrxx2182]

You ever find it?

[@elnombre5597]

Any updates??

[@iAmMadeOfSoup]

Did you find it

[@velvet07]

Hey any updates?

[@Yes-kf2mm]

really hoping this guy doesn't "bang himself" or "shout himself" twice in the back of the head smfh

[@helaka]

my heart goes out to Melanie, and a hammer to the face goes out to the men who called her heartless for being a woman talking about the abuse she faced from men.

[@nugsymalone1247]

In the spirit of lost media, if you've ever seen "3 guys one hammer" a hammer to the face is incredibly brutal

[@ifirespondiamstupid7750]

Cope

[@dancingrats]

@@ifirespondiamstupid7750the last time you were ever inside a woman was when your mom was pregnant with you.

[@SStupendous]

​@@ifirespondiamstupid7750 Get a girlfriend

[@skyty0]

The "polygamist community" that Melanie grew up in was an FLDS mormon community, an offshoot of mormonism that has little to do with the church of the laterday saints (modern mormonism, essentially). Moment of Truth probably didnt mention that for fear of legal repercussions from either FLDS or LDS, but FLDS is a current and active cult that still opperates today and its important to know what it is and its prevalence. FLDS groups are unfortunately not as uncommon as you think and pedophilia and incest are common practices within them. Also, I'll get absolutely flamed by every mormon reading this for mentiong this, but "Under the Banner of Heaven" by John Krakauer goes into detail about a famous homocide case involving FLDS and its a super intriguing, horrifying read.

[@DaimosZ]

I second Under the Banner of Heaven. I read it in my free time in 11th grade and it chilled me to my bone.

[@GooeySplat]

we polygamist dont claim these people as our own, polygamy is about love, not about abus*ng or doing sick stuff to other people

[@haruki456]

It reminds me of the Warren Jeffs offshoot but I don't think the family would be allowed to go on TV.

[@anubisthacutest4752]

​@@GooeySplatyeah these kind of people give polygamy a bad name.

[@TailsClock]

Thank you for naming them. When I heard "Polygamist" over and over I thought this was just gonna be some old-timey shaming situation that went badly. I was very confused until making a wild guess it was mormons. Since modern polygamy is as opposed to mormonism as it gets. Thank you for confirming and giving more info. Definitely irksome that Jorge pulled unrelated people into this grouping by not using the proper name for them.

[@rlinders9972]

Interesting Fact: One of the most famous video clips of 9/11 (I sadly can't remember which one) was apparently filmed by Sam Riegel, the voice actor of Phoenix Wright.

[@averyfields8183]

Huh.

[@bruhmoment5974]

interesting

[@gluchie]

Oh wow. Thanks for sharing.

[@Game_Hero]

""miracles" are something that doesn't exist" -depressed Sam Riegel while filming this.

[@UnfamiliarEyes]

Small world.

[@naranciaghirga9260]

I live in the same city as that girl in the beginning segment, and it made my jaw drop when I heard it. I’m already aware of all the polygamy that goes on because I regularly see the polygamists when we go grocery shopping. It’s just really unnerving to be reminded that this sickening stuff goes on so close to where I am. I hope that that girl is okay, wherever she is now. I can’t even imagine how traumatizing growing up in that culture would be like.

[@YinYang333]

do you know of any other towns with polygamy cults?

[@silverflight01]

Both Nexpo's _Darkest Lost Media_ and this video show how there is lost media out there that is so disturbing that you have to wonder, "Is it better that it stays lost?" The _Moment of Truth_ episode does need to be found. More must learn of these disturbing pasts

[@kontrakrist]

About the German man: From 92-98 there was a show called "Bitte melde dich!" (Please get in touch!) with its host Joerg Wontorra. It was a show where ppl told their story about missing family members. Maybe the other guy got it mixed up with "Fliege", who is a (TV-)pastor and normally had more philosophical/religious/social themes in his show. Fliege and Wontorra don't look too different from each other, when there's 25 years between then and now the guy remembering it. Also their first names "Jörg/Joerg" and "Jürgen/Juergen" are not too far from each other in writing and sound.

[@Tinil0]

Oh man, that is potentially promising

[@baeckergott]

Im from germany too! I remember the TV-Show. Maybe, its a good Hind to find something to work with.

[@goldhorizons]

Fr wishing this was Reddit right now so I could put that red box around this comment.

[@azure7304]

danke schön one of three german people watching this video!!

[@misanthrop7105]

Yeah, Fliege was more a TalkShow focused on social themes like living with handicapped or deadly ill people. If it was on Fliege then maybe unter the the theme of "how to live on with a loved one missing".

[@wikern7010]

Regarding the "Teddybjørn-mannen" case: The hosts from "Åsted Norge" continued looking into the case in the years following the episode, and extracting a DNA-profile from the remains was eventually made possible. The DNA profile was shown to contain the Y-chromosome, proving that Teddybjørn-mannen was indeed a male. The DNA-profile was then put through a database, and four reference persons (three norwegians and one german) were found. Although these four may be distant family/relation. He was probably of both norwegian and german descent. A request for identification was sent to several countries through Kripos and Interpol. A few countries have since told Kripos through Interpol that they put the DNA-profile through databases. Nothing has showed up so far and his identity remains a mystery for the time being, but these recent steps in the case have been huge and there's still hope that we may one day know who he was.

[@issacsantana6419]

Boosting this comment

[@Innocuous6518]

Also boosting

[@ArtistDud3]

Boosting

[@davidstuckey9289]

Boosting. Very interesting update.

[@meakimon]

Boosting this comment!!^^

[@xxgarrisonxx4397]

I remember the footage of the jumpers from 9/11. I feel like it was a news clip that was shown the day of but never aired again. My older brother still brings it up randomly because he vividly remembers it. I just remember the footage looked like it was from inside the lobby looking out. My brother specifically remembers the sound of those poor people hitting the ground, says it sounded like grenades going off 😢

[@HoneyKrisp69]

I remember this one!

[@SamSlugg456]

That teddy bear was chilling and so sad from a parental perspective

[@inquisitorinluzifera3406]

german native here; the show they're looking for is most likely "Aktenzeichen xy ungelöst". I think "Fliege" was more of an entertainment show, while "Aktenzeichen" is/was also more of a true crime and recent missing person cases. It may be hard to find and episode around the 90s, as those haven't been digitized and/or archived :/

[@user-bj5uj5dr5b]

or "Bitte melde dich!"

[@mabskala]

i love how after the 911 segment you said we needed a palette cleanser, so we jumped right into a sex abuse cult 😭

[@llewelynshingler2173]

The Palette cleanser was the sponsor segment.

[@mabskala]

@@llewelynshingler2173 youre right but it still seemed funny to me at the time :D

[@epicgame7097]

​@@llewelynshingler2173its a joke bro

[@firstname745]

THE LOL SUPERMAN VIDEO HAS BEEN FOUND ON DOCUMENTINGREALITY

[@C2k785]

​@@firstname745 for real? 😮

[@ObsidianAge]

I can hopefully help shed some light on the Children of God / The Family International section. My partner grew up in The Family International (and personally knew both Ricky Rodriguez and Karen Zerby), and remembers the animations listed at the end of that section like The Luvvets, Life with Grandpa, and Treasure Attic. However, she doesn't remember any TV show shown within TFI that had a sheep as the main character. She believes that the OP in the thread is remembering their past incorrectly (likely due to the abuse, which definitely *was* real), and is actually thinking of the music videos from Treasure Attic. They produced a song called "Snowflake" about a sheep which was very popular, and the very name 'Snowflake' was used as a pejorative within TFI long before it was in the rest of the world. As for the part about the boy "giving his body to the church", it's possible that was another corrupted memory from the Treasure Attic music video "Wolf Wolf", wherein a young boy lays in a field and waves in a sexually suggestive way. "Snowflake": kzbin.info/www/bejne/rX3Reox3qaymZq8 "Wolf Wolf": kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKqxpKaQgZabftU Treasure Attic had several clips with puppets, several clips with animations, and numerous clips featuring Jesus, so it's possible that the combined 'Treasure Attic viewing experience' constitutes what the OP is describing.

[@bitchboy4]

thank u for sharing this info !

[@effluviah7544]

Great thinking, you may be on to something here!

[@stephanniemorin]

Tell Blameitonjorge that, it might be useful! Thank you for sharing

[@samstrom8796]

Jorge, I joined this channel when you had 300 subs, I’m so damn proud to see you hit 1 million. You deserve every ounce of recognition you get.

[@sombertoboggly]

hey man, just letting you know that OP of the soviet tipofmytongue post marked it as solved and personally reached out to me saying it's the story they remember! so the creepypasta they read isn't lost, but there very well might be another one inspired by the 4chan post. it is however also the story that inspired the GOC, Kain confirmed it for me. made a video on it a month or so ago about the whole story. just wanted to clear that up thanks :)

[@ChocolateShaddixX]

So cool to see you here in the comments! Love your videos ♡ And great to hear this update - solved cases are always good news!

[@sombertoboggly]

​@@ChocolateShaddixX thank you, i'm happy to hear you've enjoyed my videos so far! and yeah it was great for at least part of the lost creepypasta mystery to be solved after so long

[@drummerman6488]

Just started watching your stuff a couple of months ago. I really loved your video on the Frutiger Aero aesthetic.

[@ikaiju-eu9wn]

i watched your video and wanted to link it here, you make great videos

[@sombertoboggly]

@@drummerman6488 the frutiger aero video was honestly a blast to make and thank you :)

[@jayhollows5729]

Finding a teddy bear with the male body is so sad for some reason. Maybe they had it to remember their family? Idk there is just a component of innocence to them that makes their death so tragic. Anyone who has sentimentality towards stuff like that is a gentle soul as they were fond of their family, Maybe they somehow got separated? I hope we can know one day

[@bluejayway19]

I really felt it when he said it had been repaired multiple times. I have a stuffed elephant that I’ve had since I was born 20 years ago and I literally have had to fix it millions of times. Not to be depressing but I hope when I die I still have it with me

[@jayhollows5729]

@@bluejayway19 whatever makes you feel most comfortable. People need points of familiarity in a terrifying world. Whether it be a cross or a teddy bear that's been repaired multiple times.

[@Cenentury0941]

Monty Burns had a teddy bear too. Bless his innocence and gentle soul.

[@TheLowest]

"Herr Bohne"

[@TheAlphaDingo]

Something bittersweet about that man dying alone but at least having his beloved teddy bear with him. Hopefully they manage to identify him and they can return the bear to the family or relatives so it can be preserved

[@TorjusSlayerOfGodsFuckerOfMoms]

Fun fact about teddy: the tv series that was shown, is called (directly translated) Crime scene Norway. And the young man talking is a well known ski athlete and is now banned from competing due to him being addicted to coke.

[@Phantosification]

"I know lie detectors are reliable" Maybe in the movies, but in reality they're a bunch of bunkum. The wikipedia article alone is mostly about how they're not a "lie detector", so much as they are a tool for intimidation/interrogation.

[@Imaslutforpuns]

It’s absolutely wild how lost media can range from cold cases that have never been solved with lost evidence to a creepy lost religious kids show from the 90s this is why I can never get enough of it KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK JORGE ❤

[@WussyGussy]

dude u are on every youtuber i like are u abot

[@Imaslutforpuns]

@@WussyGussy nah dude I just have good taste like you :) I hope you have a good rest of your day/night

[@megalobsterface3552]

it can't TToTT thats not how the word "media" works, this youtuber is just making up definitions

[@Utonian21]

I imagine there's probably a quite a few "home movies" of 9/11 that have never seen the light of day. Millions of people live in that area, and it's possible many of them filmed the towers from whatever perspective they had, and just never uploaded it to the internet; especially when you consider that taking something recorded on a camcorder, and uploading it, wasn't necessarily easy for everyone to do

[@sweetypuss]

that and the FBI seizes any and all footage they can find that doesn't fit the official narrative

[@duffman18]

Yeah, there was no KZbin, there was no easy convinient place to upload videos to the Internet, there was no easy convinient way to convert camcorder tapes into a digital format on a computer too. The only way you could really upload videos to the Internet back then was to pay for a domain name for a website and pay to host video files on there, which was extremely expensive to do because videos were very big files in an era where download speeds were incredibly slow. Normally what we used to do was start a download of a video right before bed, go to sleeo while leaving it on overnight to download, wake up the next morning and go and check if it's finished (normally if hadn't, so you then had to leave it on while you went to school/work and hope it had finally finished before you got back home). And half the time the download would mysteriously fail halfway through, so you'd have to restart the entire download all over again. And because herd drives were so incredibly tiny (like 10 GB), you couldn't ever have multiple videos downloaded at the same time, you had to burn it to a CD and then delete it off your computer.

[@JJMHigner]

Yup

[@demontamerbf18]

I never get tired of Jorge's videos, his narration is so captivating and the topics he chooses are very interesting, I had never heard of that truth TV show and that lady's story, all respect for her for surviving such a terrible life up to that point.

[@demontamerbf18]

@Vxniillaazx Well, I had no idea.

[@CoolCademMAnimates-fz1ui]

11:50 that’s incorrect. There’s actually 4 videos of the first plane. The Naudet footage, the WNYW footage (doesn’t show the plane itself, but shows up close footage where you can see the impact of the shockwave and people’s immediate reactions to it), the Wolfgang footage and the one taken on a Brooklyn highway mentioned here. There was also a webcam from inside tower 2 that was recording at the time of the first impact, but it’s framerate is so slow that you only really see the before and after, just minutes apart.

[@Samuel-7418]

True! There are also audio recordings of the first plane.

[@sephthesatanist6558]

Ricky Rodriguez's life and death was such a terrible tragedy if you look into it. He was a good, empathetic soul that wanted to stop the pain and suffering he'd endured from happening to other children the only way he could figure out. He killed himself because even after the terrible, horrid things that nanny, his mother, and the rest of the cult did to him, he still couldn't handle the guilt of taking the nanny's life. The members of that awful, horrid cult deserved so much worse than they got.

[@sam4744]

Whatever happened to his father? Does anyone know?

[@no_peace]

I'm so sorry for him

[@elsakristina2689]

I've been down this rabbit hole for three years and Ricky's story breaks my heart every time. I never knew him but I feel a grief every time I see or hear his name mentioned, he deserved a better childhood, a better life and a better fate. His "mother" Karen Zerby is the leader of the cult and she is somehow still a free woman to this day. As is Sara Kelley, the main woman who obliterated his innocence.

[@maffieduran]

My heart aches for him and all of those poor babies/kids/teens who had to endure ab*se at the hands of the cult. Not a religious person but those who hurt them will never see heaven.

[@maffieduran]

​@@sam4744 apparently nobody knows

[@Forcefield23]

"tearfully she said yes and won the top prize" yeah this is pretty fucked up right here

[@JackOdyssey]

Sounds like a Black Mirror episode. Like it sounds so fucked up that you wouldn’t think it could actually happen

[@ladyibis580]

@@JackOdyssey Another case of truth being stranger than fiction

[@diegorincon4673]

@@JackOdyssey We basically live in a black mirror episode nowadays.

[@claytonfannin954]

@@diegorincon4673 it was 18 years ago though

[@masterBong1]

literally faked for money. 🤦

[@pepagaclap2504]

I believe that Lol Superman exists but I think it’s definitely possible that people are misremembering and combining both Jack Taliercio’s and Guy Rosbrook’s footage.

[@deathkampdrone]

I'm one of those persons who seek out these 9-11 clips. I've done it ever since youtube began. It's not about morbid curiosity. It's merely about the fact that I remember that day vividly, and it feels like it never really ended. I'm just stuck with the memory, and I think I can normalize the memory by revisiting it. Sort of trying to even out the darkness. Pretty sure many others like me are trying to revisit the whole ordeal from as many angles as possible, for the same reasons.

[@EmonWBKstudios]

I hope Melanie took the money and cut all her ties to her family, safe in the knowledge that they will never again hurt her, as I hope for all children who suffer abuse from their parents.

[@El_Bastardo]

Yeah I’m sure they paid her all that money for an episode that didn’t air.

[@_i_took_a_shit_in_jesus_mouth_]

She blew it all on heroin and OD'd

[@_falling.sky_]

@@_i_took_a_shit_in_jesus_mouth_ yea no

[@_i_took_a_shit_in_jesus_mouth_]

@@_falling.sky_ no yeah look it up

[@rimickulous]

the whole 9/11 topic reminds me of something interesting thats always stuck around in my mind: the sleepycast black tuesday tape. basically sleepycast was a podcast of these newgrounds guys who would all get together and talk about stupid stuff. one of the guys on there, mick, told the story of how he witnessed 9/11. part of this story included how he recorded a tape labeled "black tuesday", where he sifted through every FM radio station during the attacks. to my knowledge, hes never released this tape and theres only one post about it on the sleepycabin subreddit

[@Robthechump]

So it's probably bull then? Lmao

[@rimickulous]

@@Robthechump compared to the rest of sleepycabin's tomfoolery, they were actually all rather somber during that part of the episode

[@tak-pa3134]

Except Cory, Cory didn't know what was going on -- God bless him.

[@BeyondBaito]

Chris, Zach, Cory, Mick, John, Nial, and Stamper were all involved

[@rimickulous]

@@BeyondBaito yep, all of them were involved in the plotting of 9/11

[@s0urp0wer5]

The LOLSuperman segment makes me think of the FOIA request to the FBI pointing out it's in the middle of an investigative file. I feel that even more than 20 years later 9/11 is still being considered an open investigation, long after the 9/11 commission report. It was such a colossal event in American history it will take a minimum of a century to no longer be investigated in some way.

[@DanielGonzalez-sp9xz]

When I was 24 years old I worked as a personal assistant for a man who owned realty in different states. He collected things that represented peoples final moments alive. Videos in all sorts of formats of corpses, people dying in hospital beds taking their last breaths, suicides etc. there was something sickening about being in that room. After two years of working with him I got used to it but he fired me a few weeks after my 2 year anniversary. Seeing this video and especially the grainy style ones like the twin tower vid reminded me a lot of the videos he would have playing in the background in his office.

[@missblissfuloblivion]

I think you had a lucky escape!

[@stephfo]

That’s disturbing

[@ChildrenUnder30]

God, Melanie's story is horrifying.

[@sarcasticstranger3817]

Luckily God was executed by the Soviet Army. Now we just have to purge humanity :)

[@edoneill6138]

@@sarcasticstranger3817 🌽⚽️

[@bugjams]

The show is staged. I mean some "contestants" are better actors than others, but sometimes the questions are obviously rigged, or the reactions obviously acted out. Maybe some episodes are more real than others, maybe Melanie's story is real. If so, I agree with you. But a good dose of skepticism is also healthy here.

[@ChildrenUnder30]

@@bugjams Never said it was real, but whatever.

[@gypsydanger1013]

Yep, drinking a beer is a sin but raping a child is A-Ok to these people

[@jarvis]

my god i went searching for the missing episodes of moment of truth and i'm so glad this one stayed lost

[@originalchildclown]

Jarvis:)

[@thatoneluna]

hi jarv

[@ik0la]

love your stuff man, hoping to win dhar mann bingo one of these days lmfao

[@tazinboor3913]

O….k.

[@averyeml]

Lmao you can do this episode right after you finish Black/White just to add to the “why are humans awful” pile

[@lennoxschmidt4020]

Not sure if you'll see this Jorge, but I just finished watching every single video currently up on your channel, and wanted to inform you that you're now in my top 5 favorite KZbinrs. Everytime you post anything, it just gets me excited for all the mystery surrounding anything new you offer. Thanks for many memories and take care!

[@Sadako2602]

Man that "lol superman" thing got me consuming all kinds of media and news reports from that day for like two hours. I'm 22 and I knew of 911 and everything, but I had never actually watched any footage of it and now I understand why the US is so paranoid. What I don't understand is why someone would wanna see footage like "lol superman", or all those memes about planes hitting the twin towers, like I know dark humour is a thing and I've never found them funny but now I truly despise people who make those kinda jokes, maybe I'm just shocked.

[@RandomSubs94]

25:44 I just love how the 4chan forums are able to talk about the most serious & spooky topics with a picture of Cranky Kong swearing as the start of the thread, takes all the fear away.

[@ChaoticPchi]

the 9/11 subject reminds me of the time i found a random vhs tape in a public trash can, it was unlabelled so i got curious and took it home. it was a recording of live tv coverage of the incident, except it was an american tv station and i’m in australia. i still wonder who recorded it, moved overseas and just dumped it in a random trash bin rather than their own wheelie bin. anyway, definitely makes me think unseen 9/11 footage can still be uncovered, even in the most random of places

[@Pcwizayylmao]

​@@Aperture2 because it's not true, of course

[@iwnfilauifh]

​@@Aperture2they didn't say they dumped it, they were referring to the fact that whoever owned the VHS must have brought it to Australia and then thrown it out in a public bin for them to find

[@lizzychrome7630]

This comment should be pinned. I have a few ideas of who might want footage of 9/11 while fleeing across the world.

[@halloroo1]

I am really interested in forum posts from day of 9/11. I recommend looking at the newgrounds forums, it's fascinating to see what people were thinking and saying, and last I looked some photos were posted as well. Ones I've never seen anywhere else

[@Goat_Lord]

Can you please post it?

[@Jlukes]

This video feels so nostalgic, it feels like I'm in 2017 all-over again good stuff man, subbed.

[@sfjuhispst8144]

I've never felt as much chils running through my spine as when the picture used in the soviet creepypasta was described. I remember the picture vividly and the whole time I was going: "It can't be THAT picture, can it?"

[@Jared_Wignall]

I’ve actually seen the 9/11 footage of the guy filming in the car when the plane hit the first tower for many years now. It was uploaded sometime in the last decade. Unfortunately the footage I’ve seen, the aspect ratio isn’t the original 4:3, but has been stretched to 16:9 since people think it’s best to stretch the original ratio despite doing so not only cut off part of the image as well will make the image look fairly bad as the quality isn’t as clear as it originally looked. Now I know this probably means nothing to people, but I’ve often found it to be unnecessary to stretch an a video that wasn’t originally 16:9 just so it’ll fit the standard aspect ratio of today as quality is lost as well as parts of the image either are lost as well or doesn’t look right anymore.

[@Gatorade69]

People are dumb and don't understand resolutions and aspect ratios. I worked editing photos and I got a lot of times the "Designers" (in name only) would stretch the damn photos. Pissed me off so much.

[@demonicalex25633]

Where did you manage to find it?

[@gamingdoesmc4355]

@@demonicalex25633 look up pavel hllava first plane

[@Kevmaster2000]

Stretched is better

[@demonicalex25633]

@@gamingdoesmc4355 Thank you!

[@UltimateDorito]

My heart dropped when I realized that animation came from the Children of God. The Phoenix family was indoctrinated into that cult before River and Joaquin were actors, and John Frusciante of Red Hot Chili Peppers fame, who was very close to River, credits his cause of death to the things that happened to him there. He may have been the one that took the drugs and overdosed, but what was he running from? What pain was he trying to numb? And who knows how many others' lives were ruined...

[@deletdis6173]

Interesting...

[@ozo123]

Wait i thought he has mentioned it before!!!

[@kendoruslink7017]

I always love these videos. Always something interesting about people talking and finding lost media .

[@GippyHappy]

I don't think the resurgence of interest in 9/11 is simply "morbid curiosity". An entire generation grew up hearing about this event that changed the entire world, but they themselves have no real memory of it. I was only a baby when it happened. It was so important, and so recent, but it's hard to grasp it as real when you have no frame of reference other than that it was, well, important and recent. So some try to look at videos and such to get a better understanding of _why_ it's so impactful. A genuine attempt to empathize and understand. edit: I hadn't finished the section when I posted this, I am NOT referring to looking for videos of people jumping out of the buildings or anything like that. That's not even morbid curiosity, that's sick and wrong. Tragedy is not a spectator sport, have some decency.

[@terracottagecheese2767]

Goodness, I wasn't even born yet when it happened. My sister and I often talk about how we feel like the twin towers were from another world entirely because, to us, they've quite literally never existed (during our lifetimes, I mean). I remember a few years ago my dad even showed us both a detailed documentary of 9/11 that included video of when it happened so that we could try and grasp how horrific of an event it was. So, yes, I absolutely agree that it's a genuine attempt to understand. And I also agree about the latter stuff about the jumping videos. THAT is incredibly disrespectful.

[@honoratagold]

@@terracottagecheese2767 As someone old enough to remember the 9/11 attacks very clearly, I think a lot of the focus on the jumpers is pretty shortly after 9/11 the story being told was those people were pushed out of the building or fell out. Acknowledging that those people jumped -- due to the deadly fires and intense heat on those floors -- feels important to me. The videos from afar where you can see the jumpers falling and how many of them there are, don't feel super disrespectful -- for a long time there was a picture of a single jumper that was well-published, but there were many more people who opted to jump than just one that day. That said, an alleged "close-up" video of jumpers when they reached the ground as in lolsuperman definitely does feel disrespectful and I'm fine with that one staying lost if it ever existed.

[@TheImaimashii]

"102 Minutes That Changed America" is an incredible documentary about 9/11. It is composed of only amateur footage and it happens in real time, from the first strike to the collapse of the towers.

[@Quadrophiniac]

Man, 9/11 still feels surreal to think about sometimes. I will never forget that day, but it kind of feels like it wasn't real at the same time. Memories are weird, man

[@sweetypuss]

that's because it was manufactured and planned by the bush administration from the get go. the death and misery is very real, but it wasn't a straightforward terrorist attack

[@kenny.m.olsen95]

I remember being evacuated from school in NJ at the time, vaguely.

[@sam4744]

Two airplanes crashing into a skyscraper in the middle of New York is something out of an action film, but it happened in real life. I don't plane people for never moving on from something traumatic like that.

[@protendi]

I remeber hearing about it as I was leaving school, I live in the uk and even then, I remember the atmosphere being unlike anything I had ever experienced before. I was around 7 years old, but I recall it being the moment where my parents had to try and explain terrorism to me, without making me a nervous wreck. A few years later, we had the 7/7 bombings, so I think more people over here were mentally prepared to deal with the chaos.

[@ho-leesheet5923]

​@@protendi I wasn't even born at that time

[@heidetermeg427]

You should do a video on the woman who was found dead at a hotel room in Oslo Plaza, Norway. If you haven't read into that yet - then you're sure to have your mind blown. That case is just nuts.

[@Elle--lc7ep]

Totally agree on not going out of the way to find the so-called "LOL Superman" video - some things, even when they are just a rumor, are best kept in the unknown. To paraphrase a line from Wes Craven's New Nightmare: sometimes "It's what we don't see that gets us through the night."

[@thechimpmaster]

It should be preserved for the sake of historical archival.

[@JoshuaVideoStudios]

The fact a show asking such open and honest questions about touchy subjects like pedophilia and polygamy is very disturbing to me

[@karaoconnoraliasraidra]

@Raye 💖 Plus Steve Wilkos treats the subject matter seriously.

[@frankhyde151]

@Raye 💖 " A couple guests who failed the test even got convicted." I'm not sure how true this is exactly, polygraphs cannot be used in a court of law, or as evidence of a crime. Since 1998.

[@feedesylvestre3200]

@@frankhyde151 I assume that it caugth the authorities' attention and they investigated it.

[@denis-florian_0.57]

In which country did that show aired?

[@karaoconnoraliasraidra]

@@denis-florian_0.57 I know it aired in the United States; I don’t know about other countries.

[@jam-etc]

re: the image in the "God is dead" creepypasta. the image is from the "Maaselkä cannibalism" report in 1942, Finnish forces found a camp of Russian soldiers who, abandoned by the russian army, had been left to die in the elements as they weren't worth rescuing. One of their members broke their leg, so they decided to butcher him. The photo is of the Finnish soldiers holding up a large skin while organs are draped over a tree branch in the background. You can google it if you want to see it. however, the truth is that the story was made up by the finnish soldier to be propaganda. In reality, the skin belonged to a moose the russian soldiers killed and ate, and there was no cannibalism involved.

[@SilentOnion]

Finland mentioned Yay?:D

[@pepepecaspicapapas4726]

You sure about that? Cannibalism was very common 8n both WWII and in Soviet Russia

[@loganleatherman7647]

What?! You mean they didn’t actually kill God? Color me shocked lol

[@woodman3926]

Classic Finland move.

[@admiralkenobii9894]

Типичные угро-финны.

[@reverently]

this video has been the first one to show up on my home page every day for the past week. idk what kind of wizardry you’ve done but you convinced me to watch it lmao

[@IIISWILIII]

Pallette cleanser : Let's talk about shaving our balls!

[@StokenKeys]

😂

[@davidci]

I sincerely hope Melanie used the $500k she won to get out of there, because what she went through is truly sickening.

[@RandomPerson964]

I've never heard of that Children of God cult before, but as soon as I heard that crap about "God's love" my immediate thought was "This is a sex thing. Probably involving children. Aaaand, I was unfortunately right.

[@verylostdoommarauder]

"God's love" is a nonsensical concept even in mainstream religion.

[@faithpearlgenied-a5517]

To be fair, cults almost always are. I think most people would think that as soon as they hear about any cult. Cultists are weirdos who use the 'cult' as an excuse for something else they want to do - usually involving sex and control.

[@reggiekrager5411]

​@KalebDawson Based.

[@dangerislander]

I only heard of it because of River Phoenix and Joachim Phonix being former members.

[@mistertagomago7974]

I learned about them from Red Letter Media lol.

[@leelalo6625]

Thanks again. I love it when I see a new upload on here.

[@chaseon]

God, Jorge just knows the perfect music to play when diving into a topic. Reels us in and for some reason makes us feel nostalgic

[@mrlonely911]

moment of truth literally sounds like a black mirror episode oh my god

[@mrlonely911]

after revealing the most gut wrenching truths ever, she wins the jackpot! Everyone stands up and cheers for her, nothings wrong. Smile for the Camera!

[@elsakristina2689]

I thankfully did NOT grow up with the Children of God/The Family International, but my heart goes out to anyone and everyone who has. I’ve been down the rabbit hole for three years and the stories of the second generation especially are heartbreaking and horrifying. Especially with what happened to Ricky Rodriguez. His mother Karen Zerby is the cult’s leader and she’s somehow still a free woman to this day.

[@masterBong1]

😂

[@the-letter_s]

@@masterBong1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIqrg3V-eap2e8U

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

Rose McGowan and River and Joaquin Phoenix were all in that cult as kids.

[@ObsidianAge]

My partner and her entire family grew up in The Family International, and knew both Rodriguez and Zerby personally. She has 11 brothers and sisters, and several of the them got raped as children. I still resent her parents somewhat for allowing that to happen to them, but it's not their fault - they're good people. They just got manipulated into thinking that Zerby was able to solve all of their problems. Fortunately everyone in my partner's family managed to escape, but they lost many friends in doing so, and have a few mental health issues and developmental issues to this day. Most of them have risen above it though, and have very good jobs along with good social circles. So it's definitely possible to come out of it and lead a full life, if that's of any solace.

[@Dan_Ben_Michael]

I have family members who were affiliated with that “church” and it makes me physically ill knowing they were involved in it, especially my cousins who grew up in that sick community. Their parents were estranged from my family for decades and I met them twice as an adult. I had no idea at the time about the cult and they seemed like nice normal people. I find it difficult to reconcile the people I met with the monsters who preyed on children. I believe I still have cousins involved in the family but as they live overseas and I have no contact with them I can’t be sure.

[@goofygoober7050]

It's so bizarre knowing how much archived/lost 9/11 footage that will never see the light of day

[@mymanspenky713]

probably one of my favorite jorge videos yet, every single entry is so interesting this is my third watch lol

[@-topic9506]

the family is truly one of the most disgusting and disturbing cults I've ever come across and the fact that they're still pretty much just as active as they have been since the 60s is baffling. i fully believe that cartoon is something they would make, but the chances of it being found are low since, like you said, they've been doing a frustratingly good job getting rid of their darker material since the Ricky Rodriguez case.

[@MoonshineTheDragThing]

I'm sure some people saved those VHS tapes in secret due to some sort of warped sentimental attachment or nostalgia. You'd be surprised by what kinds of things people hold onto from their childhood.

[@mariec3527]

yes ! which is horrific to learn why haven't we stopped them !

[@floorcollapsing]

The manscaped sponsor being shown as a "pallet cleanser" after you talked about 9/11 and showed a man jumping off a building was some true black mirror stuff 😭 Could you not have put it at the beginning?

[@MandenTV]

Palate cleanser*

[@Squiddlewheel]

I’ll always feel weird about sponsored videos being about dark subjects, like a raid shadow legends ad before talking about a murder.

[@floorcollapsing]

@@MandenTV Based name

[@Julian-ja]

I found a Video called "9/11 jumper impact different angles" on the channel "Dan Ello Pretty Girl Well", where you can apparently see a red mist at the end, followed by a metal sound. Maybe it has something to do with the LOL Superman mystery.

[@wusumar10]

Yas! Been wait for a new video from you! Job well done! Keep it coming

[@theanalogkid3763]

Really good video Jorge. I want to make a quick correction though. The video shown at 11:42 is not new footage. It was filmed by a Czech man named Pavel Hlava and has been publicly available for over 21 years. He had been working in New York prior to and the day of the attacks and caught both planes impacting the towers. The first clip was also nearly erased by his son by mistake. It was first shown publicly during a special ABC news broadcast on the first anniversary of 9/11 in 2002. Oddly though, despite being available for so many years, it's rarely mentioned or shown anywhere online. The raw footage was only made public a few years back.

[@Bald_Cat2007]

I remember seeing that video when I was like 5 or 6.

[@clairee7721]

So the family international used to be called children of god. In an interview about her book unCultured, Daniella Mestyanek Young, a survivor of the cult, talks about a children’s TV show similar to the one in the Reddit post. She also claims to have been used as a child actor for some of the media produced by the cult. Perhaps someone could reach out to her to see if she can provide any information about the show.

[@yugimumoto1]

Yes this.

[@saartjesdiner]

Great video once again, thank you so much, greetz from The Netherlands!

[@Asthmaticactor1]

Hey jorge, love your videos! They are really well done, and trying to get into making videos like yours

[@CPTJACK1214]

I was born and raised in Utah and a member of the LDS church. Melanie came from the FLDS in case anyone was wondering. I went to school with some of the kids that escaped from the polygamist community. They are in Colorado City, Arizona. I’ve driven past it before, and it gives off weird and creepy feeling. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask

[@kmatt420]

Why does it have a creepy feeling? Might be a dumb question, but just want a description of what makes it a creepy feeling to drive past it

[@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043]

wait how do you know where melanie came from?

[@pegasusactua2985]

How do nearby locals who are not affiliated with this group feel about/treat them?

[@CPTJACK1214]

@@pegasusactua2985 I’m not sure about the locals unaffiliated with the group in Colorado City, but when the polygamists do come into Utah to shop, eat, or get groceries and supplies, they just keep to themselves or just give you the dirty looks. But us locals in Utah would just mind our own business. There’s quite a few documentaries about them and their leader, Warren Jeffs, if you have any more questions about them. And for who Warren Jeffs is, imagine Slenderman with hair, and glasses but his pics are on the internet

[@cd5433]

Colorado city is a city in Arizona ?

[@HEraMp-mq3eb]

The scenario of the Soviet army killing an eternal and omnipotent being with rifles and a few T-54 shells is silly when you think about it

[@faithful_Gift]

That’s actually to me the most disturbing story I’ve heard so far… Being someone who loves God I do agree it’ is upmost surely an illogical story.. very scary to me :😢

[@rockycuro7737]

It makes it creepier to me. The idea that god had no strength anymore and had zero way to defend itself against simple bullets for whatever reason is very unsettling. There's also the image that went with the story that makes it even worse.

[@HEraMp-mq3eb]

@@rockycuro7737 To me it's kind of silly because it's the type of BS the Soviet Union would made up for propaganda

[@joshuabautch8936]

and not just ANY eternal and omnipotent being, Killing an Eternal and Omnipotent being that just so happened to create the UNIVERSE with rifles and a few T-54 Shells

[@loganleatherman7647]

Yeah, it’s patently ridiculous given all other notions of what/how God supposedly is.

[@UltimatePerfection]

13:28 Smartphones weren't a thing in 2001, that's true, but there were actually few phones with rudimentary digital cameras capable of recording videos. Granted, the quality wasn't very good (closer to the gameboy camera, albeit with color), but it was possible.

[@polly-esthercotton1975]

The 9/11 footage I was about 11 years old and remember watching raw live footage of news reporters trying to report while you could hear bodies hitting the ground around them and people running away in a panic. Saw a lot live on tv that day and doubt much if any of it will ever be seen again

[@MrAnthonyIII]

Rest in peace, Ricky Rodriguez. I can empathize with him so much, with his mother being a cult leader who allowed the nannies and other women to abuse him. Though I wasn't raised in a cult, I was raised by an abusive mother who would pass me around to other women when I was a child. Ricky wasn't a murderer; people like his nanny Angela Smith and his mother Karen Zerby are a danger to society

[@argkitsune]

Lost media is such a fascinating topic. I mean, how do you just lose a film or show?

[@-_-Code-_-]

Normally because the people that own it want it lost.

[@scottcowan7343]

For a very long time film and media preservation wasn't taken seriously if at all. Film was seen as a gimmick and a novelty for many years and was seen only for its profits not for preserving the work for future generations. Most of the early examples of cinema are gone forever due to vault fires (with George Melies even burning his own films out of shame). I think the most notable example of this is the BBCs issue with lost doctor who episodes. When Doctor Who first aired, BBC had no expectations for if it would succeed on television, let alone on home video. By the time they were pushing the series out on vhs, they became aware that most of the older episodes they had wiped in favor of new ones. Lost media as it is largely stems from the fact that the exact media it preserves wasn't taken seriously for decades, if not the past century.

[@gabepollock1641]

Media preservation wasn’t taken seriously for a long time. It was cheaper for TV studios to recycle their tape and record over existing footage in the pre-digital age, and many films were made on stock that wasn’t particularly kind to aging or improper storage. It also has a lot to do with the type of media: a film or a TV show could be on a master tape that’s shoved in a vault, and it’s lost because nobody in that studio has bothered to look for it because there’s no profit in it. Something like a video game beta could be stuck on an old hard drive that was taken out from a computer and hasn’t been touched in years.

[@SpongeBobbin34]

Because it’s inevitable. Like anything in the world, people lose things, even things that shouldn’t be lost. Some however, I think, deserve to be lost for good

[@scottcowan7343]

@@SpongeBobbin34 Jorge's lost media iceberg video had a lot of that. Like sure it's an interesting story but some of that stuff I pray is never released. Like Christine Chubbuck or anything related to Columbine.

[@cyverbunny]

The Family is a very sickening cult and rabbithole in general. I read Natacha Tormey's autobiography, another member who escaped, and gives a lot of insight. They definitely had propaganda material like pedophilic comics, and also held "movie nights" with shows that were exclusively produced for the cult. David Berg himself was a pedophile and promoted the spreading of material involving him and- children inside the cult. That these organizations still openly operate is insane to me.

[@Dan_Ben_Michael]

I have relatives who were involved in Children of God. It makes me sick knowing they were involved and it’s extremely difficult to reconcile how I felt about them and knowing the sick things they were involved in.

[@scottylewis8124]

Reality is scarier than fiction

[@chloehoover6079]

Probably bc reality the stuff actually happened and can happen again but fiction you don’t know if it will ever happen

[@ips2124]

misread that as reddit is scarier than fiction

[@scottylewis8124]

@@ips2124 how does that happen?

[@DelphinusOrcastra]

@@scottylewis8124 tired eyes leading to lack of attention to detail 🐬

[@sonicfanboy3375]

​@@DelphinusOrcastraAnd they were probably thinking about Reddit because of the video

[@raaniatahseen695]

Regarding 9/11, will you, by any chance, do a video on Sneha Anne Philip? She's an Indian physician who went missing the day before 9/11, and is believed to have died in the attacks. However, it remains unclear as to whether she died as a result of 9/11, and a lotta questions remain. It's an incredibly enduring mystery, and honestly kinda sad too

[@sealowisp]

Jorge just nails it every time. Like I have no clue how he just manages to make every video have the perfect tone!

[@daveallen63]

There was some live footage on 911 from the lobby where you hear the fireman talking. You can hear them explaining to other fireman that those horrible bangs were people hitting the ground. I don't remember hearing any music, but there were a few seconds hear and there that did show them falling and just going out of sight before they hit. It still rattles me thinking about it.

[@Leo.de99]

The music played maybe only before the plane hit the tower ?

[@Mrturtlestomps]

I have seen the “lol Superman” many times. It wasn’t shot outside the trade centers it was filmed inside a smaller building below the towers. It was filled with glass breaking and screams . It was from a larger clip that used to circulate that showed about five people falling to their deaths. If anyone needs infor I can fill in the blanks I can describe the video well as I remember it very well. There were copies of it on KZbin all the way up to the tenth anniversary in 2011. (That’s the last time I seen it ) it almost looked like a 90s mall with white tiles and large plants everywhere. Very sunny and clear and it was vhs quality with the time and date on the bottom and at the end it said the person who filmed it survived. Which means there has to be a hard copy of the full footage. I bet if you looked up survivors of the surrounding buildings you could get some leads .

[@Flixxy0]

I think you're talking about the Guy Rosbrook footage kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3ecaGeLoqqNeZY

[@NoOne-bp4nt]

Interesting, you know anymore specifics about the vid?

[@Flixxy0]

​@@NoOne-bp4nt It was filmed in the millennium hotel by Guy Rosbrook, he managed to capture a fair amount of people falling and hitting the ground

[@Mrturtlestomps]

@@Flixxy0 wow! I’ve never seen that footage you sent! Very cool . That’s not the video I’m speaking of, but it is very similar . The one I remember didn’t have the tracking noise but the environment looks similar except the Superman one was better lit and had plants everywhere . I also remember a woman with short hair and a white sweatshirt in the frame at one point and a security guard helping people out in the longer footage. Also the person filming at one point leaves some kind of threshold or doorway and points the camera at one of the towers and tries to zoom in on a window but it doesn’t focus. What I remember most is the quality of the footage. It was a lot clearer then a lot of the other 911 footage I had seen at the time. I do remember another rip of the “ lol superman” segment that someone re uploaded with like really unbalanced looney tune sound effects and an intro with their KZbin name.

[@Mrturtlestomps]

Also it should be said I’m not an expert on 9-11 I’m just a millinial that spent ALOT of time on early KZbin. But 100% there was a video called “lol superman” that showed jumpers. I have no dog in this fight but I had a “hold my beer moment “ when I heard him say that some believe it was never a thing. I will say that image he put in the video (the screenshot) that was debunked, did look like it matched the part when the person fuming went through the doorway/threshold and passes the guard in black.

[@101gabed]

The editing here is incredible, does such an amazing job at setting the tone.

[@TheTheninjagummybear]

Oop, forgot to update my playlist. Fixed it now! Great video!

[@Ryroe]

The first story is very interesting to me. I am very proud of Melanie for speaking up about her abusive parents and community on TV, even while her family is present, and making a lot of money through it too. That takes so much courage. I hope she lives a better life now. It is a shame that, due to it being lost media, there could be way more people living in similar situations who would have needed to see this recording to be empowered by it.

[@arilumani6194]

At least Blameitonjorge has made its existence known to the viewers through this video. Even though they might never hear it from Melanie herself they at least can hear it from Jorge as he is describing and reading what Melanie said. That's the closest to empowerment in my opinion.

[@Ryroe]

@@arilumani6194 My thoughts exactly. This is why media preservation and channels like blameitonjorge are so valuable.

[@annaairahala9462]

First story is about the FLDS church. You see it mentioned when he showed her blog. It's a well known community for doing messed up things

[@masterBong1]

“courage”? she did it for the check.

[@Ryroe]

@@masterBong1 Nothing wrong with getting money through it? It's still brave though. Her abusive family is right there with her. Don't act like it's not a big deal to speak up just because there is money involved. What shallow thinking.

[@619WWEFAN]

Jorge, I first watched moment of truth when I was younger, in a channel called MBC. It is an Arab based broadcast that has several Channels, some in Arabic some in English. Moment of truth was in English but with Arabic subtitles. That may be why you found some videos of the show in Arabic What I do remember, some new episodes still aired in MBC despite on Wikipedia it showed the show was cancelled. And I do remember this particular episode was broadcasted on MBC cause it was the first and only time I saw someone win the full amount of $500K There are some clips of the episode, including the final question on KZbin. Sadly I too couldn’t find a full episode online either of this episode, but I’m certain a full episode was broadcasted by MBC long ago, and that the episode had Arabic subtitles

[@greatestever4773]

MBC4

[@polygonvvitch]

It was no longer the Red Army by the 1960s. In 1946 they changed the official name to the Soviet Army. Always love when they get the names wrong, Russian Sleep Experiment similarly calls their secret service the KGB when the story takes place in '47-'48, but it only became the KGB in '53. Before that it was the NKVD.

[@mokshasingh8228]

Appreciate you bro !