divergent is literally the worst movie ive ever seen

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[@uncarley]

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[@Lexi-M]

Is that you in the new Nintendo commercial? I literally looks just like you. The tears of the kingdom one they just posted an hour ago.

[@freman007]

Apparently being able to chew gum and tie your shoelaces at the same time is all you need to overthrow the government. Who knew?

[@dawnwinter-wi4ps]

16:00 actually yeah they do have capture the flag hand to hand combat and paintball tournaments in the army they really do

[@paulbabb7809]

It makes more sense when you watch all 3 movies. You can't judge as a stand alone movie. Did you watch the other 2? Review as a complete series please. Divergent, Insurgent, Allegiant. Not saying you will like it more but I came here looking for the whole series review you keept saying series but didn't talk about the whole series.

[@vincent3060]

Divergent is as good as your audio quality

[@sstjohn96]

Hunger Games ran so Divergent could fall flat on its face.

[@uncarley]

STOP

[@sstjohn96]

@@uncarley sadly Divergent did not, in fact, stop

[@nailinthefashion]

Dayum

[@zeppbby]

LMAOOO

[@blugreen123]

I snorted. 😆

[@Kerosiin]

A girl liking both cottage core and parkour is literally the biggest existential threat to a post apocalyptic government

[@samf.s.7731]

Yes but how could these two things co-exist? You're either into video games or fashion.. You're either into hair and makeup or martial arts... Why do you have to be complex and have multiple interests? It hurts the brains of morons and uptight people... Nooooo 😏

[@seopark7467]

I think believing this unironically might fix me

[@samuelbrock]

So, it's like High School Musical?

[@zaelio3305]

You clearly didn't understand the plot of the movie.

[@manboy4720]

cottage park-core.

[@actual.aristotle]

i always loved how veronica roth was like "i wrote it during school between classes" and it's like girl we can tell

[@mirabelarmstrong8518]

it gets so clear by the time she has to write abt outside the wall, it’s so obvious she never actually fully thought out the world building and was keeping an eye out to see what James Dashner was gonna do with his series👀😂😂

[@elibrooks1662]

lmaooooo please !!!

[@Spawnofademon]

But I guess she’s more successful than you are so mean I guess she did something right

[@morgangunning30]

​@@Spawnofademonveronica roth has shooters out here damn who knew

[@DorianGay]

@@SpawnofademonShe definitely did a good job of capitalizing on the YA dystopia trend started by hunger games before we got tired of it because of Divergent.

[@lillytales4965]

I knew a girl when I was 13 who called people "factionless" as an insult unironically and spat on me when I told her that she wouldn't be Divergent

[@Tusisvrivhing]

O m’y fucking lord im dying wtf

[@jess3452]

THE FACT THAT YOU SAID THAT THO😭😭🤣

[@lauramessy]

​@@jess3452a MESS LMAO

[@shrubbie69]

LMAO ME PICTURING YOU SLAYING AND HER SPITTING ON U AFTER BAHAHAH

[@april-zz9pq]

Wait but the divergent ppl befriended the factionless??? Her insult makes no sense if she believed she'd be divergent 😭 the 2012-2015 era were wild times

[@rachelfirst8621]

this series had me believe parkour was the backbone of women empowerment

[@dds5993]

it isnt???

[@Pa5an1]

Well damn, I guess I’m not empowered at all 😭

[@uncarley]

LITERALLY

[@Ducky2613]

this movie was the reason i bought combat boots lmao

[@deyanaamaar9652]

Please 😭💀

[@nataliecandler8358]

i tried to read this book to impress a girl i was in love with in high school bc she loved it but it was so horrible i lost feelings and reread the hunger games to make me feel better

[@uncarley]

what a wild ride

[@nataliecandler8358]

@@uncarley still recovering. we need the next 2 movie reviews queen

[@nailinthefashion]

Be who youuuuuu aaaaarre.... 🏳️‍🌈 this 🤔 priiiiiiiiiide 🥰

[@Cloud-10]

my bf did this, makes us stronger

[@bdp8102]

The hunger games is not that great either..? Sorry

[@LethalByte69]

I love that divergent tries to play into the whole "I'm not like the other girls I'm special and different" when the whole point of being divergent means that you are ALL the other personality traits. The "experiment" is trying to bring people back to normal. So Tris is just the Most Normal person possible, while everyone else is a psychopath

[@genericname2747]

Now THAT'S a story. She's not like other girls, because she is normal, in an insane world. Shame the book didn't know what it was doing

[@darkacademiavanessa]

no bc jeannine verbatim said "you're not like the other girls" during the movie i never cringed so hard 😭😭

[@Sing_A_Rebel_Song]

Ok im writing that now

[@zellalaing5439]

​@@genericname2747 ive only watched the films, not read the books, is that really film only cannon? I actually kinda like it as a conclusion.

[@gilded_lady]

​@@zellalaing5439 In the books it's the "big reveal" of the final book. It was somehow genetics, making the whole thing basically eugenics.

[@dectren]

The pipeline from "omg I would be divergent" as a 12 year old to discovering I'm neurodivergent as an adult really is something 🙃

[@dectren]

I didn't need to dream about drowning in a simulation I just needed ✨adderall✨

[@michiyaslana5974]

I laughed way too hard at this

[@enbeast8350]

​@@dectren Diagnosed with cool guy syndrome, I see. Very nice

[@margoalex.]

no but ACTUALLY

[@tiamystic]

Lmao wtfffff

[@hemaliarora5673]

It must be hard to choose from cottagecore vegans, Eurovision, hot topic employees, horticulture people and "I am not rude I am just honest"

[@laraodowd]

im sorry who is eurovision?!?!?1??1!

[@hemaliarora5673]

@@laraodowd eurdite

[@uncarley]

you're not wrong

[@thatb1h855]

the five genders

[@spacebar9733]

im easily a cottagecore vegan wait i thought you meant Amity. no. im horticulturist

[@bad_bau]

I just want everyone to know that when I read the book for the first time at age 14, I genuinely thought that Four was like 70 years old and I didn't realize that he wasn't until the Ferris Wheel scene. The FERRIS WHEEL SCENE. In Chapter TWELVE. It took me that long to realize that they were setting up a romantic relationship, not a mentor/mentee one. 🤦🏻

[@bad_bau]

Like idk if I have been conditioned to look past older male mentor figures being weirdly flirtatious or if the book did a horrible job at establishing and conveying any chemistry between the two but my guess is that it's probably both.

[@uncarley]

oh my GOD

[@graceclarke6391]

I thought the same thing?!? Help??

[@gabooshi]

oh my god this just killed me 💀💀💀💀

[@carolinem.6747]

it took ME ages to figure out that their relationship is inherently problematic (even four himself admits in the spinoff novel that his ability to do his job was hindered by his relationship with tris)! if they ever adapt this book for the screen again that's one element of the story i wouldn't mind getting discarded. four would make a great mentor for tris WITHOUT the teacher-student relationship aspect.

[@analuzanoni]

the fact that both the fault is on our stars and divergent came out in 2014 and i had to see hazel and augustus being SIBLINGS right after i saw them being cute and falling in love traumatized me

[@nailinthefashion]

The incestuous casting, they were so desperate to bottle lightning,

[@maelysp6284]

just to make it worse I saw them in the other order, siblings first then love interest - it got messy

[@analuzanoni]

@@maelysp6284 oh nooo! either way it's disturbing though

[@koufaxxx]

Also add how “spectacular now” was played by the same actors who are peter and tris😭 they really brought in all the love interests fr

[@adidi7789]

The Fault in Our Stars remains one of my favorite movies, I could not get through more than 15 minutes of Divergent because of the ick factor. Is Hollywood really that lacking in teen actors?

[@aimeesmiles9400]

I remember when Divergent was popular and everyone was like "what faction are you? I'm...DIVERGENT that means I'm SPECIAL" but then in the last book we just learn that Divergent means you have more than one personality trait so really everybody is divergent lmao

[@anna-zk2jl]

😂😂😂😂

[@cenoreira]

Yeah I mean, according to the book everyone pre war (which means, like, ALL OF US) had pure genes and would be considered "divergent", soooooo

[@kamilslup7743]

lore time: after something happened, government tried it's best to make people, but they were kinda shit (basically dumbass teens for all of their lives), and everyone who wasn't a dumbass would be kicked out (not dumbass = divergent)

[@junnakashima4552]

“But… 🤚 If everybody 🤲 is divergent 😳‼️ then 😫….. nobody is 😠😤🥺😢”

[@No1PlutoSupporter]

Pretty true, I said divergent bc literally none of the factions appealed to me

[@haleymorgan2345]

As someone who fell in love with the Divergent series as a kid, I have to say Divergent is not the worst movie. It's Allegiant no doubt in my mind about it.

[@uncarley]

oh no i have to watch it now

[@haleymorgan2345]

@uncarley I was still a huge fan when the movies were releasing and I had to stop watching allegiant half way through bc i hated it so bad. never finished it!

[@username_creates6991]

Yeah definetly I hated Allegent to my core. They literally changed everything about it and part 2 never came out... Although I probably liked the films cus I read the books so I didn't see the gaps much in the films storytelling

[@mandyberry2500]

oh yeah the Allegiant movie was SO MUCH WORSE THAN EITHER OF THE FIRST TWO. the books were all so boring though. at least I could watch the movies lmao

[@princessadrigirl6774]

@@uncarley definitely do all the movies. Too bad they didn’t even bother finishing them 😅

[@mamamacaroni1629]

the whole 'being different/special' trope literally destroyed my teenage years 😭😭😭

[@uncarley]

same bestie

[@melmao878]

Made mine better.. As someone who is different. I am nuerodivergent, so i enjoy the concept.

[@All-ze9cl]

thats why I love the hunger games. Girl wasn't different from everyone else, she just succeeded from skill

[@SoapyTurtles]

The best part is how Tris is different/special from everyone else... by not being special at all and is actually just a normal human. Like.. what's the lesson we're supposed to be learning from that? lmaooo

[@paimonspie8913]

no fr why did I have to be an adolescent during this era 😭

[@Lolo50000]

Wait I just realised something. Four is 18 years old. He transferred from Abnegation to Dauntless to escape his abusive father. The president. Tris' father is also, I'm fairly sure, a high ranking Abnegation official. Tris is 16. So...shouldn't Tris FULLY know this man? Like 'grew up with him' know him? Just like 'oh yeah that's Tobias. Literally went to school with him. Saw him every other weekend at the family barbecue.'

[@sakurito55]

The writing is terrible, in the books her mom meets Tobias when she is visiting tris, and she acts like she doesn’t know him but also hinting that she does cause “he looks familiar” but like she also works in the government she most definitely knows this kid, it’s being only 2 years since he left, the book makes little to no sense

[@hippieseven5582]

He’s 24 in the movie

[@aeliatain2727]

in the book it said that he was reclusive and not like other polite abnegation boys and refused to come to dinner at tris's house so she literally never saw him (this book istg)

[@reese2461]

im a really big bfdi fan so when i first read that i thought “four is 18??”😭

[@alissamaharaj791]

there’s no better evidence that teenagers should never be allowed to make any decision ever than the fact that as a teenager I was a diehard divergent fan girlie and would have put myself in dauntless and suffered for the rest of my life when all I do as an adult is get high and keep to myself

[@kimberlythefairy]

are we the same person

[@alissamaharaj791]

@@kimberlythefairy maybe 👀

[@lizzylouisewoo]

This made me BUST out laughing cuz SAME LMFAO

[@stonedkarina]

wait… yes

[@oliviapedersen8309]

Honestly, I wanted to be in dauntless so bad, and I don’t know how I didn’t see it as a teenager how quickly I would’ve gotten kicked out. Tris is described as so weak in that book but I swear I am weaker than her. I would not have tried as hard as her I am so lazy. I would’ve gotten beat up so hard in every single fight and I don’t think my brain power is strong enough to withstand the whole biggest fear thing.

[@brittainxgoffy7989]

It's so messed up that the smart ones are evil and the "brave" ones are the good guys

[@uncarley]

YES WHaT THE FUCk

[@bleudiamondbleu]

Do you live under a rock? Some of the most evil people in the world are extremely smart. You have to be smart to be truly evil. My gosh

[@TacticusPrime]

**JK Rowling peeks around a dumpster that she's been eating out of.**

[@samf.s.7731]

@@TacticusPrime Yeah pretty much. I mean if you play Hogwarts Legacy, Sebastian Sallow is the most interesting character... Guess why? It's like people our age have read the books and decided... Well, that's the only way we can make a character non passive, interesting, and multilayered.. Because Griffindor? They're perfect, and therefore boring. Ravenclaw? The players will just get themselves sorted there. Hufflepuff? That's not gonna be adventurous... Slytherin! That's where it's all at. And they took that into consideration when making the game.

[@makswift2765]

I mean not to be that person, but the books aren’t like that to be fair😭

[@annav2780]

I'm so glad you mentioned how white this movie is. When I watched it as a tween I didn't pick up on that, but after a quick google search informed me that Chicago's population is only 45% white the fact that no one was like hey maybe there should be more nonwhite actors in this movie is actually INSANE to me

[@nailinthefashion]

The fact that Hunger Games literally addressed racial tension perfectly and succinctly and then this lady couldn't just copy and paste that lmao

[@TheOtherAnne]

Spoilers from the book: Technically the people who live there aren't really from Chicago, they are from somewhere else but their memories were erased

[@muchomango11]

The way I had no idea they were in Chicago at all

[@carolinem.6747]

so true! even as a nonwhite while i was reading the book for the first time i just assumed every (ambiguous) character was white unless otherwise stated (tori for example, or zeke). it never occurred to me until much later that the vast majority of the characters (four, eric, peter, molly, al, marlene, lauren, myra, shauna, etc.) are racially ambiguous and totally could've been people of color in the movie.

[@dionabutshemakesplaylists]

​@@carolinem.6747 I believe Christina was dark, Nita from the 3rd book was brown, and Tori I think was Asian of some sort?

[@sobekmania]

I feel like any novel inspired by The Hunger Games is destined to fail because of how deep and detailed Hunger is. The original trilogy of books is not about a sixteen-year-old girl toppling an oppressive government, but rather a sixteen-year-old girl who becomes the symbol of a revolution against a government after she is shown defying it in small yet powerful ways. In the first book, Katniss didn't even want to start a rebellion, she just wanted to save her sister from being killed. This major plot point gets lost on a lot of readers, and it becomes exceedingly obvious in this situation.

[@mordecaiissad8529]

Idk I feel like saying this is lost on people is unfair. Both in the movies but especially in the books Katniss is in "I don't want it" mode and for most of it she has no idea what's going on even. She is made into a symbol by other people and her reluctance to participate in the games. The only moment she really takes things into her own hands and wants to mess up the government is basically at the last stretch of the story.

[@aitanajames4]

THE scene where Theo James takes his shirt off and shows the back tattoo set my standards for men, my life since then has never been the same

[@whythenumber]

Praying for you

[@AJ-pu9jq]

Idc that scene was very important to 14 year old me

[@TheKnoxvicious]

Explain?

[@jadeshepherd8627]

​@@TheKnoxvicioustheo James is hot af. That's the explanation 😂

[@Chandra-pm6ql]

I went to the third movie on my 15th birthday and it was genuinely the worst birthday experience of my life

[@uncarley]

good god

[@dankerbell]

💀 nah i watched the second one for one of mine and i'm a guy, what's wrong with me

[@ffaenger19]

it is crazy to think about where society would be without this film

[@uncarley]

i dont want to live in that timeline

[@Owain9797]

You know that meme of the futuristic green city with the flying cars? It’s that

[@jumpinjoint]

we would be so much further along 😂

[@sandrae2398]

We'd have gone to mars

[@thedeliveryboy1123]

I refuse to believe we went anywhere with this movie. I don't want to give them credit for any impact they had on us 💀💀💀💀

[@eljaywolf]

Shailene Woodley and Miles Teller were also a couple in The Spectacular Now like right before this movie came out too. I feel like you couldn't get away from the Ansel/Shailene/Miles casting back then. What a fever dream 💀

[@AJ-pu9jq]

They defined that era for me

[@emilyb.8219]

Even when I read this book as a teen I thought the Dauntless were the dumbest people alive and couldn't fathom why anyone would want to join them. They unnecessarily risk their lives daily in the stupidest ways just to catch a ride to school and shit, how any of them live to adulthood is a miracle

[@andpeg]

Especially when the book makes it a point to mention that there aren’t any elderly people in dauntless 😅

[@andrzej7048]

Not to throw shade at Ellie Goulding because I love her, but we should've known EXACTLY what this movie was gonna be like after like half of her album was used in the soundtrack for no god damn REASON. Seeing Tris and Four kiss to "Dead in the Water" at 14 years old has literally shaped all my relationship issues today. Slay

[@uncarley]

hahahha YEs

[@nailinthefashion]

Oslay.... oslaaaay.........

[@missxfaith]

Nooooo I hate how accurate this is 😩😩😩 back in the day (2014) Fourtris was my ultimate OTP. Thankfully I have grown significantly as a person since that time 😂 most of my ships now aren’t even hetero lol

[@BreadBasketBaker]

Ellie saved this movie for me

[@mikaroni_and_cheez]

​@@nailinthefashion oslayy can you see~🎵

[@avxnlee]

my dad watched the first movie once and he took it personally he was offended by how bad it was 💀

[@uncarley]

im your dad

[@jjbeersydney]

@@uncarleyStar Wars flashbacks!

[@maik7519]

That's a very dad thing to do

[@jonathansalvador5037]

Can confirm: military training mostly consists of jumping out of trains and taking Myers-Briggs personality quizzes.

[@karakask5488]

I couldn't get over that Shailene Woodley looked 15 and Theo James looked 40. It grossed me out when they kiss. That's literally the only thing I remember about this movie.

[@catherine.marial]

And it’s worse in the books, Tris is described as looking prepubescent

[@0c3anofstars]

oh yeah. i watched the movies a few months ago and that weirded me out too so i did a quick google search and this is (allegedly) a quote from shailene herself: “theo james who plays the love interest in my film is 28, in the book his character is 18, but in the movie we’re making him about 24/25. he’s kind of ageless in a way. and even though in the book tris is about 16, we never allude to the fact that she’s that young.” yikers

[@bigbearkat2010]

We probably grew up with not nearly enough people telling us just because the teacher's hot doesn't make it not gross for them to hit on a student and it consequently took pop culture way too long to knock that shit off.

[@nelonwa7754]

I remember when I first watched the movies. It was like...2 years ago and I had no idea they were going the romantic route for the two. Cuz everytime he touched her I was like ewww get away u pervert

[@bastian9693]

You need to get your eyes checked if you believe Theo looked 40 in that film

[@SpookyStag2015]

watching movies < watching movies vicariously through the bad reviews my favorite youtubers give them

[@uncarley]

yesss

[@larissamoreira2635]

It seriously became my fav hobby

[@annarichard7359]

Divergent, more like "die, virgin!" directed at those who dont see the artistic mastery achieved in this film

[@uncarley]

fair enough 😔

[@thepandoricaoffandomsbacku7349]

But can we just have a deep dive on the age 16 where girls magically turn into super beings capable of anything. Like any teen movie where shit happens they’re always 16 and when you think about it they are so damn young

[@spntageous5249]

When I read Divergent I was like 13, and I used to think "hey 16 is a good age to do this..." like hell it is, I am now 23 and I don't think I could have handled everything these YA characters do

[@tangled8151]

2007 kids are 16!

[@thepandoricaoffandomsbacku7349]

@@spntageous5249 agree, when I was younger I thought 16 was the turning point in your life. Damn at 16 I was a baby!

[@NaddleSchidaddle]

As a 16 year old I am disappointed that I didn't get the powers these main characters seem to get 😩😩😩

[@allienichole418]

every time you introduced a new plot line i was like “HELLO why do i not remember any of this” and then i realized the only reason i enjoyed these movies as a tween was because i liked looking at theo james and apparently i just blocked everything else out besides his face

[@amierulbaharin765]

True. And oh, I'm also living for Four and Tris's kissing scene. No matter how bad or I don't know, corny, that might be, I still like it.

[@Hansg24937]

I read all the books over a one week period whilst on a school trip when I was 12 and not gonna lie it altered me, I don’t think the last 8 years would have been the same without that phase tbh 😂

[@uncarley]

this was me with the maze runner

[@crowningglory6654]

How do you think it changed your outlook on life & your personality?

[@onegirlmusic]

MEE tooo i haven't watched the movie but 14 year old me was gobbling fantasy and i thought this was the epitome of romance and coolness with retrospect....i apologize to myself but it really brings a fond memory 🥲

[@spacebar9733]

@@crowningglory6654 neaurodivergence aint so bad !!!

[@addisonranly]

i need you to do the next two divergent movies too 💀 this was so real.

[@uncarley]

hahahaha yes

[@kayas1fangirl837]

I am pretty sure that the author of this series is a Christian woman. Abnegation was based of off Christianity (feeding the homeless, putting to much care into your looks is considered sinful). This is also why you correctly pointed out, Carley, that a major message in the books/movies is that forgiveness heals all trauma and that women are responsible for men (not exactly Christian but it is a point in many Christian sects). Love also “delivered” Four from being blinded by the “world” (sin/Satan).

[@geraldvanlaar]

Roth's christianity is something that I don't see pointed out often. The treatment of Al's suicide is another thing I'd point out: Tris (virtuous protagonist) thinks he's selfish and Eric (a villain) thinks it's great. The religious perspective of the writing results in these two options and a comical lack of nuance to the whole situation.

[@jadeshepherd8627]

😮 best comment

[@jonathanbowers8964]

Yeah. I would say that Abnegation is specifically inspired by Mennonite/Amish sects of Christianity (with a tinge of Quaker). While there are elements that echo themes that are common across Christianity as a whole, the severe austerity (especially the whole thing with mirrors) is a very strong marker of Mennonite/Amish culture.

[@bearerofthecurse69]

So sorry but the 14 year old girl within me has to point out a detail you missed about the gun to the head scene near the end of the movie. One of Four’s fears was being forced by Dauntless to kill an innocent person, and it’s revealed that he copes with it by looking away when he shoots. When Four is being mindcontrolled and holding a gun to Tris’ head, she notices him trying to look away. So she grabs his face and forces him to look. Even in the mindcontrolled state, he’s unable to do it, so it forces him out of the mindcontrol. In that sense, it’s not really that Tris ‘fixed a broken man’ here. She was thinking fast and being smart. Really, she saved both herself and him. Great review btw :))

[@belialren]

Spoiler In the 2nd or 3rd book you find out that Amity was also being drugged the whole time by their leader to keep people chill lmao

[@hockeygrrlmuse]

That's better but still not what I would call Good

[@sully42O]

@@hockeygrrlmusei actually think that’s a clever bit of writing. i think that in a better series it would’ve been given more credit. like, the set up is good and the payoff makes sense. i wish i could call the payoff satisfying but can’t really since i don’t care about Tris and Four as characters. If I had, then I can totally see that scene making me cry

[@hockeygrrlmuse]

@@sully42O fair tbh

[@TheJeannag]

The way the factions are basically just...a regular caste system like the one we have in India. The government caste, law enforcement case, traders and merchants caste, and service and "menial" tasks caste. And yet, despite being horrific and outdated af, our shitty caste system is still way more nuanced and complex and fleshed out than whatever tf this movie was on X'D

[@user-iz3ss5rb3z]

but those castes have true value to society and aren't vague. Like Erudite -- like what all "smart" people in one faction?

[@qmkt]

​@@user-iz3ss5rb3z that's what brahmins were supposed to be. Intelligence was basically thought to be their gambit.

[@qmkt]

​​@@user-iz3ss5rb3z but yeah I see your point

[@TheJeannag]

@@user-iz3ss5rb3z Like I said, our castes are quite literal garbage seeing as they are a heirarchy rooted in oppression, violence, misogyny, anti-blackness and much more, and yet, they still have more complexity than just "smart go here" X'D

[@leeh4669]

oh damn that's so interesting - I was always taught in world history that the caste system was "abolished" so this comment was both surprising and also not at all surprising (american education sucks). if i remember correctly there were the "high caste" brahmin and kshatriya (definitely spelling it wrong, i'm sorry) but i don't totally remember the others, and we didn't learn about jobs really, except that brahmins were priests i think? if you can, would you be willing to explain the jobs and castes' connections, and how the system is still present today? i wish i had been taught more about it, indian culture and history is really complex and so fascinating and i would be interested in knowing more.

[@probablymarta2436]

regardless of what people think about it, somehow i feel like divergent is the epitome of early 2010s dystopian YA. i swear there is no comfort genre like it, the divergent series takes me back to a simpler time every time i'm reminded of it

[@uncarley]

the vibes of ya dystopian are unmatched

[@riemmelthruitenbeek2292]

I had the exact same with The Selection, reread it for the fourth or fifth time last winter and that was the first time I didn't like it as much and noticed some troubling thing with it. I am debating rereading Divergent, but kind of scared of it now 😂

[@katien3022]

YA dystopian is so far fetched but so comforting 😂

[@cenoreira]

@@riemmelthruitenbeek2292 The Selection writing and plot sucks hard, but I do like the characters personalities lol

[@bastian9693]

Ugh, I loved dat time 🥺

[@itsgiobaby]

The reason why Four doesn’t shoot her in the end has actually to do with one of his biggest fears of killing an innocent person. He says earlier on that he can’t do it unless he looks away. When he’s holding her down he tries to look away to go through with it, but because Tris makes him face her he breaks off the mind control cause he just can’t do it that way. At least that’s what I think it’s implied lol P.S.: much love from a fellow would-be friendly apple picking stoner 😂💖

[@marah5702]

as someone who was OBSESSED with the books when i was 12: i do in fact have major main character complexes now and i do indeed want to be different at all times. and when i did the test (yes there was a test IN the back of the book) and i got divergent, i felt superior

[@cj-bi7hz]

I think in the books, they explained that the government doesn't want you to be divergent because since your well-rounded you're a danger to them 💀

[@theclairewhy]

yea it means the serums don't affect you. tbh the movie shows that pretty clearly with Tris being immune to the mind control serum lol. in a broader sense the existence of Divergents threaten the integrity of having factions, which would make the government vulnerable

[@margoalex.]

the mental damage I have from looking up to Tris as an 11 year old child is unreal

[@uncarley]

praying for you bestie

[@juliabondi8889]

It is beyond me how a series with basically the same worldbuilding basis and conflicts as The Emoji Movie became such a hit dystopia. My middle school even went on a field trip to see the author give a talk. She was nice but I don’t remember a single meaningful thing she actually said about the book

[@sully42O]

timing absolutely saved its ass. i think these books came out while the hunger games were being published or when the series was over. book readers were SALIVATING for another series like it and Divergent on the surface seems to tick a lot of its boxes and we all had to grow up to realise how fundamentally broken it is. also i think it helps that not much is answered in the first book so as a teenager I put all my faith into Veronica Roth being able to answer all my question in a satisfying way and then the answers i got in later books were… yeah.

[@go0sejuice]

I had to have a couple surgeries when I was in middle school and going to see divergent in theaters was the first outing my family brought me on when I was far enough into the healing to leave the house. I was still on a LOT of intense pain meds and things at this point, so I was pretty out of it still. I remember getting into the car to go to the movie and trying to close the car door, but it just kept bouncing open. I was using all the strength i had in me to repeatedly slam the car door shut but it just kept bouncing open! When I finally thought to check to see if something was in the door, it was actually that I had put my phone into the pocket of my cardigan, which weighed down the entire left side of the sweater and made it so my phone was hanging in the doorway acting as a door stop. My phone was smashed into more pieces than I could count. It didn’t even look like a phone anymore. But at this point I was stir crazy to the point of tears. So, least I was finally getting out of the house after being stuck in bed for well over a month and seeing a high anticipated hunger-games-esque movie. Imagine the RAGE I felt sitting in theater when Divergent turned out to be THIS. I hulk smashed my phone in the door to my mom’s mini van for THIS? I can’t emphasize enough how intensely and for how long I had been begging to leave the house, but this movie was so bad that I actually wanted to leave the theater part way through and go home

[@jadeshepherd8627]

Damn 💀 hope you don't have to deal with surgeries anymore

[@annushankar3032]

This movie is such a trip. Like they actually got Kate Winslet and Maggie Q for this omgg

[@uncarley]

i know there are some STARS

[@paulatamaramohamad5794]

That should be a crime

[@bigbearkat2010]

@@paulatamaramohamad5794 I mean Hunger Games got Julianne Moore and Phillip Seymour Hoffman for his last performance

[@emilyb.8219]

@@bigbearkat2010 Hunger Games is good tho

[@jadeshepherd8627]

Them having Kate Winslet was one of the only good things about this

[@samk_17]

reading this after the hunger games made it even worse 😭 genuinely happy when i finished it bc i never had to think abt it again!

[@uncarley]

oh noooo that's awful

[@TisPopRock]

Bruh same

[@katharineball585]

Same

[@ABirdInTheTrees]

"What if a BuzzFeed quiz was government distributed" is literally the most accurate description on this series I've ever heard.

[@forgottenfairytales]

im sorry IN WHAT WORLD DID THE CASTING DIRECTOR THINK 'yeah theo james looks like an 18 year old, we can get away with this.' bro thats a 34 year old MAN

[@frankensteinfan]

what matters is shailene woodley's red carpet interview with the hungry woman

[@uncarley]

yessss

[@JoannaEve]

Just saw that I can see why thats iconic 😆

[@han-mg9eq]

When I was in middle school we got to go on a field trip to the movie theater to see Divergent on a Friday morning, and my mom and I had gone to see it the night before so I saw it twice at the same theater within like 15 hours. I probably did some irreparable damage to my development doing that but boy did 14 year old me have a good time.

[@uncarley]

the brain rot you must have suffered

[@katzuma7641]

Imagine if instead of her parents working for the government, they were killed by a group of criminals when she was a baby. She chooses dauntless to find the men who killed her family.

[@jadeshepherd8627]

I'd read everyday on my way to work

[@clearly_a_raccon]

Wouldve been soooo much better

[@charliedoyle1456]

Literally what I never understood, even as a lover of divergent in middle school, was how Tris never knew who four was. They’re only two years apart, it doesn’t make sense that they never ran into each other. Especially because their parents worked together.

[@convoswithkara]

ah yes bootleg hunger games ! may the odds be ever in ur flavour or whatever !

[@uncarley]

STOP

[@jadeshepherd8627]

IN YOUR FLAVOR 💀😭

[@TheDramaticCrafter]

mY FLaVoR iS tRiANgLe

[@kaitlynwilson-witte5037]

Miss shailene was booked and busy during this era

[@uncarley]

SHE WAS EVERYWHERE

[@ragdollrose2687]

"You chose to be a cop? Why?!" is very real not fantasy fiction at all 😂

[@Yolkgurt]

What's insane is that I had a divergent fan account in 7th grade and I remember literally 1 of these plot points. I just loved the aesthetics I guess??

[@EF-kk3vh]

this is so real tbh

[@rebelbelle1388]

"same guy different font" had me rolling. I love your way of describing things, girl. Keep on keeping on. Love it!

[@Chronicallywitty]

I need it as part of my daily lexicon

[@TryingtoTellYou]

Imagine she said that about two black characters. Ought to be embarrassed of herself. I know I am embarrassed by her.

[@ghoultooth]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@TryingtoTellYouBen, it’s not that deep and I promise you, you can get over it.

[@TryingtoTellYou]

@@ghoultooth No one asked for your opinion love. If you want to be a racist pig, go for it.

[@Caroline-bc3dq]

But like...who cares??? You know???

[@bro.that.is.adorable.2633]

When you said dating in one movie and siblings in another, my first thought was Elizabeth Olsen & Aaron Taylor-Johnson who were siblings in Marvel but married in Godzilla (2014)

[@uncarley]

siblings or dating x 1000

[@jadeshepherd8627]

Iconic 💀😭

[@whatthefreakkkkk]

As someone who lives in Illinois, the description of Chicago at the beginning being “everyone is in Chicago and there is nothing anywhere else” is a pretty good description of Illinois

[@thunderstickme]

I absolutely hated these films but I still watched all of them and I was legitimately upset that they were never finished. They are so fun just as a bingo game of YA tropes

[@ladygaygay94]

I’ll never forgive this movie for making me hear the name “Four” in such a serious context Great vid as always queen!!!

[@uncarley]

FOUR and everyone else is names like "susan"

[@Pa5an1]

So his name really is Four? I thought it was Thor 🤣 the subtitles said Four the entire time but what do subtitles know?

[@elsie1998]

@@Pa5an1 his name is actually Tobias though, Four is a nickname

[@Owain9797]

@@uncarley maybe it’s Ford but he’s doing a silent D to be _different_, divergent you might say

[@thatb1h855]

@@Owain9797 no it's four. zoe kravitz's character makes a joke about "where's one two and three" and four basically tears her throat out

[@eveningpiano]

Someone in my English class pointed out how much of a classic Divergent is and I hate to admit that they’re right. I forget classics can be bad 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@uncarley]

hahahaha

[@CliffCardi]

Me: “This is the worst movie ever” Allegiant: “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!”

[@throwachair4574]

even in middle school i was wondering what exactly is Dauntless supposed to be protecting everyone from? The factionless? The homeless people with no food outside chicago? And you need a fifth of your population to handle that?

[@stellasreadingagainohno]

the absolute grip this series had on me when i was 13

[@uncarley]

same bestie

[@eva_unit_01]

I will never get that time back lol

[@arisingh4747]

I read this after hunger games and it was the worst fucking decision of my entire lifetime. It is the core cause of why I have turned out this way

[@uncarley]

hahahaha that's soooo bad

[@katharineball585]

I did the same

[@cashmerenerd]

please note that miles teller has also played shailene’s love interest a few years prior, this is just a movie of all the boys she’d loved before

[@salssalsa]

Part of me wishes I was still 14, reading dystopian novels and feeling superior BUT then again I have to remind myself that glee was all the queer representation I was aware of

[@sojourndestination3031]

I remember watching this movie with some friends and not even half way thru the movie one of them says "man they be taking some hard drugs." Since then this movie is summed up beautifully in that quote alone.

[@nerd26373]

Divergent isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it's still pretty much a memorable franchise. This is one of the first dystopian novels I've come across.

[@uncarley]

i had the best time watching the movie it was BAD but also fun!!

[@tinkywinky3574]

agreed

[@Noukdg]

exactly

[@rebeccaboyd5190]

It's also way better in the books. When I read it at like 13 and watched the movies I was so mad bc the movies are drastically different than the books. Another example of book>>>movie 🫠🫠🫠

[@jiwuwuw]

​@@rebeccaboyd5190the books are also not good too .. better than the movies (a little)

[@annabv55]

I always got so annoyed when people compared divergent to hunger games because COME ONNNNN

[@Aro_dynamic46]

I would like to remind everyone once again that Veronica Roth wrote about how Al offed himself after Tris didn’t forgive him for helping some other guys almost murder her bc he was jealous and bitter that Trist didn’t love him back AND TRIS WENT AND CALLED HIS DEATH SELFISH WHILE ERIC THOUGHT IT WAS A DOPE THING TO DO Just in case anyone forgot

[@unchosenone3]

I almost forgot about that 💀 that always rubbed me the wrong way tbh

[@ashesandposies]

I thought it was sickening that he killed himself to hurt her and then everyone was praising him for it, he wasn’t really sorry for what he did to her

[@riho446]

i was maybe 12 when i read that but i remember being so fucking confused. Why were they praising him!?..?

[@arin2747]

I had an absolutely surreal experience in class this week of my professor asking us, seemingly out of the blue, "have any of you seen the divergent movie?" and then showing us the Allegiant trailer with no context or explanation why.

[@mop7316]

the fact that the cops and soldiers faction is presented at first as the "rebellious" faction will NEVER make sense to me

[@meredithhildebrand]

I embarrassing adored this book and the entire series for ages and I will share the reasons below: 1. I actually adored Tris when I was 12 years old. I thought she was so interesting and so unique and such a good character. At 12 years old, this movie and the book series was my first true obsession. I was hooked. It caught my attention and drew me in and snagged its claws in me. I was disgracefully obsessed. 2. They actually do share why Divergents are feared by the government in the movie. It was because “Divergent” people didn’t “conform”. They didn’t identify the most with one personality trait. The tests being “inconclusive” basically just meant that they didn’t identify most with one personality trait and they were just regular, normal human beings. Divergent’s driving factor is the fear of “being more than one thing”. It’s why Four had a tattoo of the 5 factions. He didn’t want to fit into just one. He wanted to be brave, selfless, truthful, smart, *and* kind. It’s hard to pick up on but there are legitimate explanations behind the stigma and the fear towards those who are “Divergent”. They are threatened and feared by the government because this dystopian universe values conformity, uniformity, and identity loss. They don’t want originality to exist. They want everyone to fit into one “faction” so that they are easier to be manipulated and controlled. 3. These books are truly flawed and I despised both the book and the movie forms of Allegiant. They never should’ve made Insurgent or Allegiant into movies. Neil Burger should’ve stayed to direct the two sequels, but he left after filming Divergent and the new director ruined what little was good about Divergent. I adored Divergent through and though for ages. It was my first true favourite book series and I was obsessed. It’s definitely much worse than The Hunger Games, but I actually prefer Divergent’s concepts over The Hunger Games’. i think I just liked the characters much more in Divergent than in The Hunger Games. However, I actually haven’t read the entirety of The Hunger Games’ series. I think my opinion would change if I did. It’s still one of my favourite book series and I’ll always have a softness for it because it resonated so deeply with me when I was younger. It had me hooked for ages.

[@anabellhr5955]

+++

[@madeline3868]

11:58 “what if they have mobility issues?” You don’t remember that bit in the books were it’s implied elderly dauntless kill themselves instead of becoming factionless when they can no longer parkour?

[@reyzagray5277]

"you're special. you're different. and being different and special is the only way your life matters by the way" (10:11). i felt this line literally rewire my brain as you said it

[@lf2835]

I've never seen/read divergent so I'm excited to experience the fever dream vicariously through your chaotic energy 😂

[@uncarley]

happy to help bestie

[@lf2835]

​@uncarley you're so right about it feeling like an alt right book especially when the main villain is literally a university that uses brainwashing 😭 Thank you for making these videos though its like we're at a sleepover at 3 am and you're telling me about the trash book you just hate-read ❤

[@technojunkie123]

Fun fact, the movies actually whitewashed Four! (and his mom in the later films) They were both described with vaguely generic POC features in the books (olive skin, curly black hair, dark eyes, etc) and yet here we are with Theo James & Naomi Watts God I used to be such a HUGE divergent fan in my high school days and this is bringing back all the cringe memories 🙈

[@namelessnarrator7271]

I hate to break it to you, but white people can have those traits as well, especially those of mediterranean descent. I also have olive skin, curly black hair and dark eyes. I am Greek, and so is Theo James actually (Greek and Scottish to be more specific).

[@jadeshepherd8627]

Theo James isn't poc???? All this time I thought he was

[@miku_rokoru]

I’m not sure about Four’s skin or hair colour, but I vividly remember that he had dark blue eyes

[@zoedocherty1412]

“Same guy different fonts” made me wheeze 😂😂

[@RoySS05]

I love how to mention amity seeming very high cause in the second book it gets sort of mentioned that they do have ‘calming’ drugs in their bread or something

[@danisalusha5739]

I watched this movie and The Thinning in the same week. I can't remember which one I watched last, but I do remember I didn't watch another movie for about 6 months.

[@uncarley]

praying for you bestie

[@isabellelinguini6785]

The second divergent is the first movie I ever fell asleep in at a movie theatre. I have vivid memories of how I physically could not keep my eyes open as my mother jabs me in the ribs, iconic.

[@kathychiley5893]

THANK YOU for pointing out how all the whwitr fudes looked exactly the same, i couldn't follow the plot at all bc i couldn't tell who was who

[@lunasuji]

I watched this movie the first time I got drunk, I took tequila from my parents' cupboard when they weren't home and then they came home and said "let's go watch divergent!" I thought the messiness of it was from my 14 year old self not being able to handle the alcohol. It wasn't.

[@sofie.h]

SO excited for this bestie the books briefly had me in a chokehold in high school but it passed before I ever watched the movie

[@uncarley]

i love that!

[@sofie.h]

@@uncarley oh also the native link seems to be broken bc it’s somehow including the next word in the description! (but when I deleted the extra word it worked fine)

[@hazelmarie3066]

16:07 “is this what army training is?” I watched this movie with my dad who graduated from West Point and served in the army and he said that the way the characters were treated in training were EXACTLY how the cadets were treated at West Point 😭😭

[@neveomalley8636]

bro the way this series had a chokehold on my friends and i at 13. seeing Allegiant in theatres was the first time i realised movies could be bad and i was devastated

[@camilaacchiardo6568]

Having never actually seen the divergent movies, this was a much more fun way to find out what they're about 😂 if it's not too much brain rot, you should definitely review the other ones, you have a hilarious way of summarizing stuff!

[@uncarley]

thank you!! i def wanna do the others

[@awkwardatlas5623]

I need Carly to resume telling me she hopes I'm taking care of myself or else at the start of each video. I didn't realise how much I miss that casual threat.

[@nicoleackerman205]

Another person ranting about the books thought that fractionless people did the jobs no one want like driving the subway, being janitors. One of his rant was him finding out that they have no jobs because they are not allow to and then he was like who is driving the subway. It is just funny that you both said that.

[@evangedeon2194]

Maaaayyyybe there's something to the idea that people become distanced from their friends and family as they are entrenched deeper in isolated in-groups? But there's probably a better dystopian premise to explore such a theme 🤷‍♂️

[@glutenfreesnark]

"What happened with a normal 90 minute movie?" The MCU happened, Carley

[@august._.girlie]

“That’s the same guy different font” WHEN I TELL YOU I SCREAMED

[@mariahkanarek6752]

I feel it’s important to mention that Shailene Woodley and Miles Teller were romantic leads in The Spectacular Now as well. The YA actors dating pool was a puddle

[@frankensteinfan]

indeed because hunger games catching fire is the best movie ever made

[@uncarley]

NO LIE

[@lesbiangoddess290]

its cinematic perfection

[@bleudiamondbleu]

Hunger games is trash

[@tilda8990]

No because I would watch this every weekend from the ages of 12-14 😂 that one Ellie Goulding song made me cry

[@uncarley]

hahaha yes

[@kindredspirit617]

I love all the sarcasm, I really need it when there's discussions on toxic behaviours like this! As a victim of abuse (I have CPTSD, which means it turned into trauma), the thing that concerns me most about this narrative isn't just that women can fix damaged men, but that anyone can fix someone whose damaged! Healing isn't something that anyone can do for or inspire within you, it's something that can only come from within the damaged person. It is a CHOICE, not a gift! This is why I'm so traumatised, I spent my childhood trying to help heal my mum, and she didn't want to do anything to help herself! If you keep waiting for someone else to fix you, you'll never heal, because no one is capable (or willing if they've been taught self-respect and healthy boundaries! - Which I wasn't) of taking on the work you need to go through to heal! As much as my trauma was a terrible thing, it taught me one of the greatest lessons in life: the only person who can save you is YOU! Yes, leaning on the people who love and support you is an important part of the process, but they can never take on the role of actually healing you (and nor should they)!!!

[@graceelizabeth130]

No you're so right. I'm so sorry about what you went through and I hope you can heal

[@kindredspirit617]

@@graceelizabeth130 Thanks, it's a hard and slow process but I'm putting the work in and I've come a long way (further than I ever thought was possible in some respects!), so all things considered I'm not doing too bad! I hope you have a great day! :)

[@ernie39]

Agreed! Your line about healing being "a CHOICE, not a gift" is so important -- we control ourselves, not anyone else. Helping people is not the same as trying to control them, and I think it's a big problem that the concept of "helping" is so often framed as (or has been normalized to mean) efforts at coercion and control rather than as a collaboration. Also how "help" is viewed as an obligation you're locked into (i.e. you would be a bad person if you stopped "helping" someone or accepting "help" from someone) instead of, again, a collaborative effort that can and should be reevaluated if it's hurting or not working for any parties involved.

[@rogue7723]

This series seems like it would be better suited as a _videogame_ with choosing your faction and all the virtual simulations