DIY American Standard Champion Toilet Ghost Flush Fix

[@johnstezelecki8157]

American Standard gives us a 10-year warranty. They have changed the rubber gasket to a better one. I think it's a good idea to get the new free gasket from Standard and still use the washers. Great idea. Thank You

[@louiswhite1445]

Great idea. I like the old school powerful swirling flush toilets so much better than what is being manufactured these days.

[@cliffordchapman1967]

I totally agree!

[@tricias6621]

they were so much easier, and cheaper to fix!!

[@MaryLawver]

Thanks so much. Learning way too much about toilets today......I know the outside diameter of the washer is 1 1/4" but what is the inside hole size? Gotta get it over this little deal on the end of the chain.

[@Patti956]

I purchased two American Standard Champion toilets about five years ago and both have caused me nothing but grief. Research has certainly revealed that countless customers have experienced the same problem with these toilets. When I noticed my water bill escalating each month, I began calling plumbers. All of them tell me it’s my toilets, but none of them seem to have a remedy. I called American standard last week and they sent me out replacement rings and fill valves. I installed the new parts yesterday. Last night I heard the infamous ghost flush. I was about to call American Standard this morning and ran across your video. I think I’m going to try your idea and see how it works. By the time I add up the price of my two toilets, water bills for the last five years, plumber bills, and all the anxiety this has caused, I think American standard should be be doing more for their customers by way of refunds. Thanks for posting this video. Wish me luck!

[@cliffordchapman1967]

I could not agree with you more! Good luck, I hope my fix works!

[@marychristopher8227]

You are a genius! I kept buying seals and now they are $14! Your idea works!!!!!

[@frankfitch6702]

Ive replaced my gaskets at least 3 times and I never thought of this as a solution. Will get on this tonight!

[@cavboygtricer3449]

Thank God I found your fix on KZbin. I'm ready to replace the flush valve and fill valve. Because replacing the gasket is still leaking.

[@briansilcox5720]

Thank you for this one. I could not understand what was happening when I heard my Champion “ghost flushing.” I found other indications of leakage, and it caused me to pull the toilet up. Fortunately, it was not leaking, but now I fully understand what’s happening. Peace of mind restored, washers are a great solution!

[@cliffordchapman1967]

So glad this worked for you!

[@kewhite50]

I bought 2 of these toilets in a renovation and had them installed a year ago already ghost flushing. I will try this fix and thank you! Too bad American Standard will not do anything about this

[@philburrows7805]

I've had my American Standard toilet for about 10 years and only reccently started having a ghost flushing issue with it. I replace the flap valve gasket and still have the same problem. Today I'm getting some brass washer and going to try your fix. I will let you know how it works.

[@cliffordchapman1967]

Please do! Thanks!

[@tricias6621]

This is brilliant, thank you! Getting the washers when menards opens. Then going to figure out what toilet to buy to replace this pos.

[@byroncoffelt7023]

Thank you, I was thinking of using lead fishing weights, but your idea will be even easier

[@jamesopenshaw5193]

Thank you so much! I have been losing my mind ove this

[@mford9029]

Brilliant Old Man. I’ll give this a try - I’ve tried everything else!

[@cliffordchapman1967]

I hope it works for you!

[@bcom9389]

You can actually add extensions to your fill tubes and then readjust the fill valve so the water height will come up farther thus adding more weight to the flush valve seal and increasing the power of your toilet! NuFlush makes extension fill tube kits for the champion 4 flush valves in where you can extend your fill tube as high as you want. You're welcome👍

[@duketran7735]

Thank you very much for a great advice. We can use more people like yourself. God bless.

[@IceBreaker1127]

Do yourself a favor and replace the AS flush valve with something like the Fluidmaster 3" Flush Valve w Flapper. Less than $20 and solves the weak flush issue among others. The toilet works well without the terribly designed AS parts.

[@theshow1269]

Great idea…. Thanks.

[@daynahudgin317]

Thank you so much! We absolutely hate this stupid new toilet, and when it started ghost flushing, my head almost exploded. (The flush doesn’t swirl to clean the bowl, so often end up flushing twice, so there’s another actual waste of water.😡) I haven’t bought my washers yet, but I can tell this is going to solve my problem! If it weren’t for the fact that this toilet is installed in an extra bath that won’t get much use, I would yank it out and blow it up.

[@cliffordchapman1967]

Sadly, your frustration is matched by the other commenters...and myself. I hope the fix works!

[@supersleuth3161]

So is the problem that the top part is not heavy enough or is it that the gasket is not made good enough and develops bubbles letting the water go through?

[@cliffordchapman1967]

Yes, to both, in my opinion.

[@supersleuth3161]

@@cliffordchapman1967 I called American Standard and they are sending me the new gasket. I hope that fixes the problem, it was installed less than a year ago. I hope to be able to repair it myself. The washers need to be brass?? This wont cause a problem with the well water I have? Thanks 😊

[@cliffordchapman1967]

@@supersleuth3161 brass is the best, as it does not rust/ react with water. Steel would rust, lead is a heavy metal poison.

[@supersleuth3161]

@@cliffordchapman1967 thanks very much, I appreciate it!

[@darrellm421]

I used two 3oz (total of 6oz) fishing weights and tied them to the top via the whole used to connect the chain on the flapper. I doesn't seem to have fix the stupid thing.

[@cliffordchapman1967]

Hello, using the 2 weights tied off is probably setting the entire flush valve off balance = ghost flushing. Try the washer fix, as that centers the weight and prevents setting the flush valve off balance.

[@Dbfonda]

Bless you brother!!!

[@mzacchini007]

Great idea.

[@cliffordchapman1967]

Glad you think so! Thank you!

[@sunflowersaturday4588]

Brilliant thank you!

[@cliffordchapman1967]

Thanks for giving it a try!

[@TheSameoldjoe]

Thank you!

[@cliffordchapman1967]

Yes- i agree American Standard should be doing MUCH more. They are knowingly manufacturing defective toilets...then charging more for the "fix it" parts, once the warranty expires. Clearly, this is not right. I hope the washer trick works for you all. All I can tell you is that I will never buy or recommrnd an American Standard toilet again. Someone

[@frankcolella4089]

Awesome!

[@cliffordchapman1967]

Thanks!!

[@dalemihocik4732]

Those people like you that have problems with this toilet must just be plain unlucky. The 1.2 to 1.6 gallons of water in the bowl weights about 10 pounds and holds down the flapper. Just how effective can a few washers be when added to gain some weight. Seal failure is due to water quality so that is the bulk of the issue, not the toilet.

[@cliffordchapman1967]

Sorry: read ALL of the comments - are there really that many "unlucky" people who bought the same toilet, and have the same problem? Which, BTW, 99% have fixed it using the washer fix? I don't think so. The toilet flush unit is a flawed engineering/ materials design. Why would American (Sub) Standard make a specific kit for this problem? They know they have made a mistake. They should re-design and fix the issue.

[@dalemihocik4732]

@@cliffordchapman1967 There are MILLIONS of these toilets in homes around the world and your sample size of ALL 49 comments is hardly enough data for you to make a legitimate assessment. All your giving is your opinion and if people want to buy into that God bless them. On the flip side, since you seem to know more than the designers of this product, why then do owners like me find this to be a product devoid of problems? Can't wait to hear you explain that.

[@alzeppelin]

Has your fix continued to work? I’m at the point if replacing the gaskets on my toilet every month. No excuse whatsoever for these toilets to all have this issue.

[@cliffordchapman1967]

My fix has continued to work - over a year later.

[@glennsr.1082]

I tried three one inch nuts and it still leaks.Also a new flush valve still leaks.American Standard will not see my money ever again.

[@MrKfq269]

That left over half a tank is total b.s.

[@steventimm7811]

This trick of adding the 6 washers made absolutely no difference, ghost flushing as bad as before.

[@cliffordchapman1967]

@@steventimm7811 Sorry to hear that. There may be wear and or silt on the upper valve...in which case contact AS for a free replacement kit.

[@cliffordchapman1967]

@@steventimm7811 After replacement, add the washers.

[@bigduke6702]

I’ll give it a try. Next stop, a dumpster. I will NEVER purchase another American Standard.

[@HarveyWallbanger-ho2cq]

Dave, the weight of the water pushes it down. It's a flawed design, put it out front for the junk man

[@bigduke6702]

I hate this stupid toilet.