DIY Double Sided PCB

Hello, In this video I will show you how to make double sided PCB.
Materials needed
1) Double sided copper clad board - amzn.to/36nrmvV
- amzn.to/3BANYob
2) 130gsm glossy paper - amzn.to/3sOaaqX
Toner transfer paper - amzn.to/34MKanS
3) Ferric chloride - amzn.to/3v34H2p
4) Scotch Brite green pad - amzn.to/3HX8hyE
5) Isopropyl alcohol(IPA) - amzn.to/3I1NjPc
6) Acetone - amzn.to/3gRtttJ
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[@MrKata55]

IMPORTANT! Don't forget to: 1) paint it with a protective lacquer after soldering, or 2) coat it with some alcohol-dissolved colophony/resin before soldering, which doubles as flux, or 3) tin all traces with solder. Otherwise the bare, exposed copper traces will oxidize with time, their resistance will increase and it may cause a lot of weird issues due to voltage drops.

[@meghansuncle2116]

I had a thought. Would it make sense to drill the vias before etching? That way you might avoid liftoff of copper if your second side is a small copper ring after etching. Also, it would ensure that your print is 100% aligned. Also, instead of visual alignment, the via holes could be made to be alignment holes as well, so no eyeballing the print through light would be needed..

[@ElectroRetro]

That's a fantastic idea! I'll definitely give it a try next time. Thank you so much!

[@Kolin4556]

Buy yourself an electric jigsaw and a metal saw, it will be much easier to cut textolite. Even better than on a minicircular saw.

[@DIYTech21]

very innovative, the copper wires as vias

[@meghansuncle2116]

Nice. How much time in the etch bath? You showed 3 or 4 clips. How long did it take? And where can i get a drill and bits like you have with the proper size bits? I think you has .3mm bits?

[@ElectroRetro]

The etching process typically requires a duration of approximately 15 to 20 minutes in my experience. However, it should be noted that when reusing ferric chloride, the etching time may progressively lengthen. Enhancing the agitation of the container during etching can assist in reducing the overall etching time. The drill bits were purchased from a nearby electronics store. Alternatively, one can acquire them through online platforms. The specific drill bit showcased in the video has a diameter of 0.5mm. www.amazon.com/Pieces-Polymer-Jewelry-0-1-1mm-Random/dp/B084T4PB1K/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=1OOARF9JKZFN1&keywords=Pcb+drill+bits&qid=1688453567&sprefix=pcb+drill+bit%2Caps%2C393&sr=8-4

[@meax7180]

Very nice, if you were added uv mask, it would look professional, also can i do the same thing, just instead of using toner transfer method, im gonna use uv film?

[@elumalaika9887]

புரோ பிடிஎப் பையில் பிரின்ட் எடுத்தால் ஒரு டிசைனிங் தான் மையமாக வருகிறது மல்டி டிசைனிங் எடுப்பது எப்படி வீடியோ போடுங்கள் எனக்கு உதவியாக இருக்கும்

[@RixtronixLAB]

Nice video, thanks :)

[@oiooiioioiooioii5400]

Beautiful! I'm curious what this circuit was for?

[@ElectroRetro]

It's a USB to TTL converter.

[@lifeofbutterflies]

🌝👍

[@ElectroRetro]

👍🏼

[@mdsohanahmed4185]

Very good job 👏

[@electron7373]

One of the best toner transfer PCB's I have seen! What paper is used in this video? Maybe photo print paper?

[@ElectroRetro]

Iam using 130gsm photo print paper. Thank you.

[@thusharpa2924]

😁👍

[@ElectroRetro]

👍🏼

[@San_DIY]

Smd design in SMD side changed in sample PCB 😢. It need to print with mirror????

[@ElectroRetro]

Top layer need mirror print.

[@San_DIY]

​@@ElectroRetro thank you so much 😊. Tomorrow I'll try it

[@ElectroRetro]

@San_DIY 👍

[@abdalrahman3347]

is very nice, can tell me about the width of traces that be used, thanks.

[@ElectroRetro]

0.400mm

[@anithasatheesan4968]

👍

[@ElectroRetro]

👍🏼

[@mohammadkiabani3014]

prefet & amazing. well done 👌👌👌👏👏👏

[@martinsp90]

where is the file to cut rought edges? i cant see the link..

[@ElectroRetro]

amzn.to/3zlUAHA

[@AmitkumarSingh-gr5rl]

Ni smgh aarha....wash krenge to jo uapr design printed hai sabka copper nikal jayegs na

[@shoaibahmad1769]

DOUBLE SIDE CIRCUITS HUMNE DEKHNA SHURU KIYA 1975 SE SHARP NATIONAL KE STEREO SYSTEM SE JO KE ONE SIDE COPER ONE SIDE WHITE CORBON PRESS HOTI THY

[@jerrysmt2959]

Can I use an inkjet printer?

[@ElectroRetro]

@@jerrysmt2959 No

[@cybermsantos]

If you need metalized holes ?

[@ElectroRetro]

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[@haranadh_vizag]

Hi...Electro Retro .. really great work 👏👏 can I have circuit of PIR sensor Module with 4 leds with out any relay ..I need simple connected with Hi watt 9v battey . PCB designed PDF. Ready to itch

[@rajeshsng]

Quality work👍

[@ElectroRetro]

Thank you

[@alexandrefernandes7186]

Good morning, first of all, I would like to say that the tutorial with double-sided PCB was great. Could you put a link to the paper you used, as in the video it seems that the side where the laser printing goes is the shiny side? And if this paper is adhesive? Sorry for so many questions but after so many mistakes making PCB printing, watching your video was a salvation at the end of the tunnel. Thank you very much in advance.

[@ElectroRetro]

I Am using glossy non adhesive paper. Here is the link to a similar paper amzn.to/44jJb95

[@alexandrefernandes7186]

Thanks ​@@ElectroRetro

[@shirochan4769]

hi i would like to ask, the glossy paper inkjet printer can use? because i dont have laser printer

[@ElectroRetro]

@@shirochan4769 can't use inkjet. need laser printer.

[@shirochan4769]

@@ElectroRetro then what about glossy paper , there have alot of type for glossy paper, which should i buy

[@ElectroRetro]

@@shirochan4769 Any glossy paper will work. It won't make a huge difference. Here is a link to a glossy paper for PCB printing:www.amazon.in/TECHDELIVERS-toner-transfer-Glossy-Pieces/dp/B08KTKTTFQ/ref=asc_df_B08KTKTTFQ/?tag=googleshopmob-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=422025000417&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2717779918183654604&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9149194&hvtargid=pla-1212036767881&psc=1&mcid=06c0aff5086d39b5be7cb229241ed279&ext_vrnc=hi

[@shirochan4769]

@@ElectroRetro ah thanks alot

[@shirochan4769]

@@ElectroRetro oh one more thing is glossy paper got two type , one is glossy art paper and one is glossy photo paper, i have the one of glossy photo paper , this work too right? if yes then i no need to buy another 🤔

[@FunFigures-s4t]

Please I'm a new student What app can I use to do this And I'm in Nigeria, where can I get the copper plate

[@hato_kun1]

You can use easy eda for circuit design.

[@alfatihid8901]

how about join 2 pcb.?? i`m not see on video

[@jijeshkorothpoyil2697]

Please never use any type of scrubber to clean pcb. You will get super clean pcb by 1. Clean it with soft sponge and dish wash liquid (to remove oil and dirt films) 2. After drying with clean cloth, " use plasto pencil eraser " and rub the copper clad You will get it super cleaned. 3. Never touch copper side again with bare hand. Try and reply me.

[@ElectroRetro]

Thanks for the tip. I will definitely give it a try. One doubt, does this method remove oxidation on the copper surface?

[@jijeshkorothpoyil2697]

@ElectroRetro absolutely !! You will get very pure copper exposed. I tried it. Will result in better toner adhesion I used white plasto eraser (used to correct pencil )

[@ElectroRetro]

Thank you so much. I tried it. I got very good result.

[@ahmedmoustafa6829]

What is the minimum width of the wire you could achieve for good results?

[@ElectroRetro]

0.2mm

[@BFnotes]

Amazing

[@thomas_oesterreicher]

Do you flip the board when etching? I only did one-sided-pcbs until now and Iam wondering if I have to change my etching methode for double sided pcbs?

[@ElectroRetro]

flipping the board is good to evenly etch the board.

[@thomas_oesterreicher]

@@ElectroRetro thank You

[@DDGZ-11]

Is it okay to print the circuit design on inkjet printer?

[@ElectroRetro]

No, Inkjet wouldn't work. Must use laser printer.

[@adharshkrishna7366]

Sir,can we use zero pcb board for doing with double sided soldering

[@ElectroRetro]

Yes

[@electronicsinhalen319]

Very Nice Bro

[@ElectroRetro]

Thanks

[@aryalesmana2501]

Cool men

[@johnjaybanal7664]

Is it necessary to mirror the top layer?

[@ElectroRetro]

Yes

[@sisuper257]

can i download the schematic eagle sir?

[@ElectroRetro]

That pcb is for demo. Its not perfect. It has some errors.

[@engineer2you]

@@ElectroRetro but we still want to try, please send the link of PCB

[@mmtechchannel8002]

Sir What printer do u use?

[@ElectroRetro]

Laser printer

[@mmtechchannel8002]

@@ElectroRetro Dear Sr,Can use brother hl 1110 mono laser printer?

[@ElectroRetro]

Yes

[@saivenkatbalabadruni]

How much time is it taking to you too make wholes for the entire pcb

[@ElectroRetro]

It depends on the size of the pcb

[@saivenkatbalabadruni]

@@ElectroRetro recently i tried making a pcb at home I used a manual drill same as you for each hole it took around 10mins so how much time is it taking for you per hole. If it's quicker than me any suggestions would be really helpful

[@ElectroRetro]

10 min is too long. It won't take that long. You should replace your drill bit or you can use a mini rotary tool.

[@saivenkatbalabadruni]

@@ElectroRetro oh how long is taking for you drill a single hole? And what drill are u using

[@ElectroRetro]

Previously I used a hand drill, it would take less than 1 minute to drill a single hole using a hand drill. Now a days I'm using a small dc motor with mini chuck.

[@apanoiu]

Very nice, one piece is missing : how to print multiple boards per sheet

[@182mm]

good idea!!!