DJ TLM: Mixing With Live Music Can Improve Your Beatmatching | Share the Knowledge

[@thasco]

I used to keep on beat by adjusting the pitch on the incoming record with the "master" record playing. Ear training is so important..

[@jtl909]

Everyone is a DJ until you put a mixer and two turntables in front of them.

[@junelopez9520]

Thanks God someone is talking about this. It’s about time folks get off that sync and learn to groove live. From an OG who knows - DJING for over 28 years. Nuff said - kudos to you!

[@alecfury6872]

I started dj 8mth ago did dj back in the 1990s but not for long I only ever dj live music a love trying to find the beat my self I don't use any software just my ear and it been fantastic old school

[@andre.rascol]

YOUR VIDEOS ARE FREAKIN AWESOME!! Keep up the quality content!

[@DJStatexFreudIanSlip]

Great video! Mixing with live music is definitely a great drill to keep our skills on point!

[@gusgomez7660]

I do this every week...try some Merengue bachata and salsa that will humble any dj real quick 😂...

[@KE-jb4mh]

First time I noticed the tempo fluctuating was when I tried to mix a song with Parliament - Aquaboogie. I didn't get it at first but that was during my early days of DJ practice. A few months ago I had a gig at a bar and when I turned up they had belt driven TTs. Never used them before and I thought it would go terribly but i still manafed to get decent transitions in most of the time and because thanks to practicing a lot on disco records, I am used to adjusting the pitch during the mix.

[@DJDRFUNKJUICE]

This it's a really fun knowledge @DJTLM 👊🏾

[@ClevelandTerry]

It's also very important to know your music. If your playing anything from the 70s and 80s. That tempo is always off but when you know the music you can adjust on the fly. Nowadays, even the live musicians play with the click track so I rarely find contemporary music with issues.

[@KE-jb4mh]

Cleveland Terry Bowens it's not the tempo that's important to learn with that music but it's when the right time to mix out is because often you only get one good chance and also some songs don't have a one or 2 bar intro but like 6 beats which can throw the mix off

[@LASHH9669]

Great advice, especially if you've got some idea about beatmatching but aren't super confident yet. I started out DJing all digital, sometimes beat matching, sometimes reading BPMs and waveforms and often a bit of both. But when I first started mixing on turntables, digging and trying to mix with random records I bought, I had a lot of fun trying to get them to stay on beat, a lot of the time not even knowing the BPM of the track or if it fluctuates much until I had a few experiment mixes with it. Some records it's not that hard and a little fader riding between sections of the song kept them together, but others vary in BPM widely and will really have you working hard. This is great in that it gets you to really know your records and find sections where the BPM is most stable for a smooth mix or be able to predict if it's going to go faster or slower from your memory mixing with it. That said, some records will just fluctuate too much to beatmatch in a live situation and sometimes you have to make the call to just 'drop on the one' or do something else creative.

[@bboymac84]

Great tip! Also try DJing with 4 decks plus use a sequencer to create your own beat live. That’s great practice! A beat machine saved my butt!! Also get a controller that uses USB or computer. Computer can and will fail!

[@yamaforever]

Good one TLM:) Thanks from sweden

[@_sl3600]

Matching live drummers is really worth practicing, makes everything easier afterwards. Try riding as long as you can at home, but I would advise to keep the blends on the shorter side when playing to an audience - they're not there to listen to your practice sessions and it'll make you look and sound better. Typically those types of tracks will have a less forgiving structure which will just *make* you push the outgoing track out anyway (clashing vocals, melodies...). Also, it's quite fun when you've mastered this and your hand just does its own thing when you apply it to a pitch fader :)

[@duboi1475]

Vinyl Rips have this same effect. the wow and flutter from the turntables will make it go in and out too. I have a ton of "computer made" tracks that were on wax originally that my homeboy ripped that will go back and forth about 2 full bpm. When I first tried using some of these old school rips in sets I struggled a good bit... But now it's fairly second nature to just adjust throughout the mix

[@grey9514]

Rips aren't really what he is talking about. Vinyl, even the same album, may have different pressings and different vinyl mastering engineers, so of course no two pieces of wax are ever guaranteed to be identical. If you get something from the same plant and mastering engineer, it will reduce the likelihood of observable variances, but it is a physical manufacturing process, with potential variances even with the same pressing plant and mastering engineer contingent upon how the vinyl is press/cut/etc. But yeah, take an intractably variable analog recording format, and then rip those digitally, and you will still get weird results. The concept of "quantized" rather than non-quantized beats I think is more what he is getting at, of course if you have played in a band before you DJed and have played along with fellow band members who weren't on beat, this shouldn't even be a lesson that needs being taught, but increasingly we live in an era where DJs apparently never studied traditional instrumentation, and apparently don't even rip their own records but rely upon "homeboys" to take on all the burden and legal risk of copyright violation.

[@duboi1475]

greyグレェ Really? He's talking about human vs computer... I was simply saying that if you rip any vinyl to a digital file... even if the music was produced via computer, the wow & flutter from the turntable produces non quantized results similar to a live played piece. As far as a "Homeboy " ripping his vinyl for me... that never happened...but after nearly a two decade break from the scene when I got back into DJing some friends did hook me up with music. Most of what I do play is true underground and was only ever released on a white label 2 decades ago... (as far as old school goes) which may be 1-2 tracks in the entire set ... the rest are either promos sent to me from the labels or directly bought new releases. Nice try tho. 😂😂

[@grey9514]

​@@duboi1475 Your claim is that on a piece of vinyl your homeboy ripped for you, that it has timing variances within the RIP then? I am not trying anything but to understand you, and it is failing on every appreciable measure. You are only furthering misunderstandings with that reply.

[@duboi1475]

greyグレェ several old school Break beat tracks and techno tracks that were produced with a drum machine then pressed on wax then ripped from wax to wav that were originally “ quantized” when produced are now dynamic with a varying bpm after being converted to wav. If you play the original vinyl on a tech mk2 wow & flutter are about .1-.3 %. Play the wav on a cdj or through computer it will vary up and down in tempo about 2-3 bpm ( like a live drummer)

[@grey9514]

@@duboi1475 Congratulations, you are still completely missing the point. Is vinyl, which is an intrinsically lossy medium, ever going to have consistent playback when even the MASTERING is inconsistent? Think about that. Don't answer. Is vinyl, or a WAV, LIVE? Think about that. Don't answer.

[@tharukkus]

I mentioned this in one of your previous vids.