DJI Avata 2 FPV Goggles & Remote Compatibility Explained - Goggles 2 - FPV Remote 2 - Ham Hack

[@striker1211]

Great clear video. I love the nicknames for the motion controllers.

[@DenisJosifoski]

And at the end, Goggles 2/integra are the most supported goggles for all DJI HD systems for fpv 👌💪

[@MadRC]

100%. Today by far the Integra is the best goggle choice for DJI.

[@vadimus2007]

@@MadRCon many levels! Happily replaced Goggles 2 with Integra.

[@streetzfpv]

Naw.. Crazy the G2 clearly better than integra. "TouchPad finicky" seems like one person said it and everyone says TouchPad much easier to use in flight

[@originafreerangechicken]

@@MadRChaving owned, used extensively, and tried them all, I really agree that Integra are the best bang for the buck and compatibility right now. G3 are great but Integra fit / optics are the best (for me). I got rid of G2.

[@freeflightfilms7403]

Yes thats right what make problem for yourself

[@ivo_huth]

You have the ability to explain something very clearly, thanks for the info!

[@8888kinkin]

Thank you for this video Hi how are you Mads Tech i want to know the Bind Combination for avata 2 , AVATA 2 to Goggle 2 and FPV remote control 3 and AVATA 2 to Goggle 3 and FPV remote control 2 is that can bind and control , thank you very much

[@sander289]

Hi, I see in your chart that the DJI air unit O3 will (most likely) become compatible with the Goggles 3, but NOT with the FPV remote 3. How does this then work? will this be reserved for the air unit O4??

[@shaha_airena]

Thank you so much for the clarification on the compatibility. I've been waiting for the backward compatibility of Avata 2 to Integra & DJI FPV Controller 2.

[@unihumi]

So I have the Avata 2, the Integra and the FPV Controller 2 sitting right in front of me. I can't get the controller paired up. :(

[@unihumi]

I figured, it's due to the missing update. No idea how I can update the FPV Controller 2.

[@nevezeraa]

@@unihumi have u figured it out?

[@arunr5529]

Does applying the HAM file affect the flight properties in manual such that it requires a bit of adjustment before you get the hang of it ?

[@DrBerkantAtay]

I was in my camper van today trying and scrutinizing the new firmware on my A2+G3. The goggles3 got stuck in the drone camera view without the telemetrics and other data in sight, only the drone camera view. In both of these episodes, I was going in and out of the life view using both the double taps on the sides of the goggles3, and MC3 dial double clicking. I couldn't bring the telemetry data back, and couldn't enter live view mode however I tried. I had to reboot the goggles and the drone as a last resort. This never happened in the former firmware. Might be a bug?

[@TheWhiskeyChaserBrian]

Thank you for this video. Great explanation. Very bummed I can’t use the fpv controller 2 with the goggles 3 and avata 2. Do you think they will eventually make them compatible?

[@jampaPT]

Congratulations on an awesome video! Very detailed explanations conveyed in the simplest way possible. Best "class" on the subject!

[@Kincaid01]

Hi, can you do easy acro with avata2 using integra and motion controller 2? Thank you in advance.

[@BrodieReed]

Thanks for keeping things clear as always Ian ✌

[@brandon9689]

I noticed the same bound device warnings when trying to use the goggles 3 /motion RC 3 with my mini 4 pro. Do you think having a crash incident with an unbound device could potentially get someone burned on their DJI care refresh?

[@betaodrone]

Hello friend, how do I link the DJI AVATA 2 with the integral glasses and RC 2

[@gregzelent8109]

Great video. Finally someone explained well and clear. No I know I need to sell my rc2 . I was thinking it will be compatible and went and bought yesterday from eBay. No I know I can sell it soon as arrive. Thanks 👍

[@rubengarciajr7560]

if youre using the googles 3 and rc3 with avata 2, why is there 2 signal strenght bars (HD and RC)? The only part talking to the drone is the googles 3

[@Blueskyver]

Thank you! One more question: On Avata 2, with Goggle 3, I cannot set H.265 when 4K/60 16:9 D-LogM? Do you know why it only records H.264? There is no setting anywhere to select H.265????

[@wahobby]

Speed Limitations with Remote Controller 2 when flying the avata 2. Did you conduct any tests to see if this is true?

[@Jmzz542]

Thanks for the update! Very thorough. You have to give us some coords of good spots in the UK at some point 😅

[@Dronesters]

I would like to see what the front view camera shots look like in the goggles 3. Is that possible?

[@lecolintube]

Thanks so much Ian! Is the D Log ‘Assist’ viewing mode (where, when flying the Avata 2 & recording in D Log, you’re able to toggle on and off contrast and saturation (or use a viewing LUT) to be better able to see where your flying through the goggles) only available on the Goggles 3 🥽 or is it available on Goggles 2 as well?

[@outboxfpv4360]

If we update all FW on goggles and remote can we use it with both avata 1 and avata 2 at the same time?

[@razorartur]

Hello! How come my fcc hack sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. I mean I fly at a spot. 90-100km/h speed, no problem. I go to another spot and suddenly limited to CE, it feels is hasn't got power.

[@tomedward8652]

I have the Goggles 2, RC 2 and the BabyHawk 2 o3. This will be a welcome addition. I am still new to FPV, but I may consider buying the Avata 2 in the future as a longer range option over my Babyhawk due to the Avata 2s RTH safety net.

[@clarkjamesdigital]

Dont rely on RTH, rely on not losing signal, as far as I know RTH is quite a dumb feature, if you lose signal it will fly backwards to the point it lost signal, and then rise up to the preset RTH height, then fly in a straight line back to you and will happily crash itself into anything in the way because unlike a mavic, or even the original DJI fpv, there are no sensors, and this is why I think the DJI fpv is actually the best long range drone that DJI have made, it's got the speed, power, battery life and obstacle sensors for a return to home experience that's borderline mavic tier- of course the camera sucks so you'll be putting a go pro on the top, it's also huge and heavy, but surprisingly quiet. That being said I think a custom drone with GPS is a good tool because even if you lose video, you'll still have control link, and in some situations that's going to work better than RTH because you can control what the drone does, throttle up and you'll gain some height if you need to, or stick back and then fly slowly backwards, you have options and "how will I get out of this situation if things go bad with my signal" should have something you're always thinking about, flying the avata 2 around with no regard to this and expecting RTH to get it back to you as if it were a mavic is a recipe for the drone crashing itself into something and you loosing it

[@michaelcaraballo9642]

Thanks Mads for this! I do wish DJI would have changed the way spectator view worked as a whole so that I could share the FPV experience with low latency between Google 2 and 3 or vice versa maybe with a direct usbc cable or direct wireless rf share to a nearby goggles. Part of the experience is sharing fpv with new people or even training them with a buddy box only possible if it has low latency. I understand it’s not a broadcast type system like HDZero but it seems like DJI hasn’t changed the way this fundamentally works with the new Goggles 3.

[@anemoneyas]

Going to the specific app page in the appstore on iOS will generally allow you to update even if the update isn't showing as available elsewhere.

[@MadRC]

It was still not doing it for me, I had to delete it in the end.

[@RayRay-zc2ed]

Dji removed the avata2 alone option from their website. They only offer fly more kit. I was waiting because they were showing out of stock for the alone deal. I wonder what’s going on?

[@dragonryder88]

Great video, exactly what I was looking for. I have set of DJI Integra and the Love Toy 2. I was going to buy Avata 1 only because of them, but after watching this video I decided to buy Avata 2 Wonder if one day DJI will make their Googles compatible with the DJI RC so I can use them with my Mavic 3 Pro

[@streetzfpv]

Compatibility makes perfect sense according to DJI track record. Im just glad they gave the option more likely G2 will work with a O4 system. But for somebody new would prob find capability a nitemare understandably.

[@Rk-mt4ll]

I forgot to ask if this update fixed any of the wobble issues with the Avata 2. Wind or no Wind. And the return home crazy wobble. I will try and get out this evening and check this also. Thanks for your great content.

[@MadRC]

It’s been a little too windy for me to really see a difference. It seemed to fly as crap today as it did before if that helps lol

[@mhmphotography400]

Are you talking about prop wash ….. dirty air ?

[@Rk-mt4ll]

@@MadRC After a little testing it seems to be a lot more stable ( Less Wobbling). It use to wobble pretty bad in the normal and sport using gps outside, even with no wind.

[@Nickc582]

And to see it recording from the goggles 2 was the biggest thing for me

[@alect9097]

Does anyone know if you can still shoot D-LogM when using Goggles 2 setup? Or are you limited to D-Cinelike like the Avata 1

[@Nickc582]

I am glad they actually listened and was the reason I didn't invest on it at all and hope the 04 will also allow the goggles 2 to work the same

[@appslagu4704]

ofcourae it will work

[@Nickc582]

I had the original v1 DJI and when the goggles 2 came out the DJI air unit wouldn't record from the the new goggles that was why I was so down on DJI cause I figured my goggles 2 wouldn't allow to record the avata 2 that's all and now I see they are I won't be so hard on them

[@ronniequalls7217]

What 04 air unit , it doesn’t exist !!!

[@Nickc582]

@@ronniequalls7217 well if it does ever come out

[@DUH-rq1fe]

Is the power-up sequence (1st Goggles, 2nd Controller, 3rd Drone) to activate HAM still valid? On my Goggles 3 the manual channel selection is currently always shown on CE, no matter how I power up the devices.

[@berniepb3075]

Same finding here (EU country)

[@vaughn828]

🤔 compatible with caddx vista?

[@MadRC]

Goggles 2 are yes.

[@seigedan]

How about 03 air unit? Can work with 04 systems?

[@vadimus2007]

Speaking of additional antennas - isn't one of them used for talking to FPV/MC RC3?

[@MadRC]

There are 8 in total in the Goggles 3, 6 Ocusync SDR, 1 for the RC GFSK Link and 1 For Wifi.

[@RADERFPV]

I'm not sure if you mentioned it, but I assume we'll still need to connect our phone for remote id when using the goggles 2 with the the Avata 2. Hopefully we can still unplug after taking off. Can someone please confirm this? Thank you!

[@seferon100]

Not with Avata 2.

[@RADERFPV]

​@@seferon100Great, thank you!

[@amehirelanda]

Isn't that the motion controller 1 aka love toy 1? The motion controller 2 has a reverse throttle trigger

[@maddmavic]

Wait so if I have the goggles 2 and nd controller 2 I can just by drone and batteries ?

[@dishxpert]

Did you get a response to this? I too have the Goggles 2

[@maddmavic]

@ yes this is able to be done. U just have to updat everything with firmware on the website not the app. N it should work worh goggles 2 n integra

[@dishxpert]

@@maddmavic thanks. Is the flight experience different with goggles 2/controller 2 than eith Goggles 3/controller 3?

[@maddmavic]

@dishxpert I have no idea to be honest I didn't buy it and try it I just know some one that has. Prior to the 3 having disconnected tion issues it was better with the 2 and integras But they fixed that woth an update also so I'm not sure. I hear the n3 goggles coming out built more like the old v1 n v2 so going to be a bit budget dji calls them but not really budget price. And they supposed to have alot of better qualities then the dual screen goggles likes these . Dji has amazing return system get them n try then n just return them if them if do not like them. Also their refurbished section. Is amazing zero difference then new. They comepletly con over usualy have new stuff like drone or controller. Same warrantee everything. Just cheaper. That's why they're always sold out of the good ones on a refurbish site page.

[@DrBerkantAtay]

I have the ham file in the goggles3. The new firmware enables the grayed out channel mode selection to be changed to manual. It's great. But I see only 2.4 and 5.8GHz options. I live in CE. Where is the 5.2 GHz? Does the drone use it in auto mode?

[@MadRC]

No if you use the ham file you can’t have 5.2ghz mode.

[@DrBerkantAtay]

Thanks Ian. 👍

[@DrBerkantAtay]

And one more thing, I was watching your video about the 100fps reducing the signal latency video this morning, but wifey interrupted and couldn't watch it with a sound mind. I now cannot find it on youtube. Does 4K100 reduce the latency, too? And can you please point me in the direction to that nice video of yours so that I can finish it?

[@MadVultureFPV]

is possible to have 4K@100fps with ultrawide ?

[@russaubin]

So if you're confident the Goggles 3 and O3 compatibility will become available then does that mean the original Avata will be compatible with Goggles 3 and FPV remote 3?

[@MadRC]

We have no info on the original Avata. It’s unlikely tbh.

[@Dez1981]

I hope they add compatibility for dji 03 for goggles 3 and controller 3

[@miichaelhickey]

Interesting as I expected the RC2 to work on the Avata 2 as it mentions it in the release, but I can’t make it work

[@TheCatFather01]

Dji doing dji things, mix-messing stuff so you can never have really full backwards compatibility. Like seeing the rainbow but never be able to touch it😅

[@RichardAFPV]

I agree that sometimes DJI can half ass compatibility additions. But, in this case, the limitations are hardware related and they've actually put some effort into making this work.

[@EdEditz]

Didn't they also put in 4K at 100fps?

[@LandOverview]

Well I got Avata 2 bundle because their price was ok and them goggles are a huge improvement size wise and fit compared to their first FPV goggles although maybe not as versitile but a nice size and weight for sure. As for penetration, well I would like them to go through cliffs and hills and woodland but alas I think not with that transmission system so best kept in line of sight as always. The first Avata I gave a miss as who wants a drone that flops out of sky when you go manual and try rolling a bit much. But end of day for nice long range FPV it is still best to build your own so I kept my Goggles V2 and that old first FPV the came with as it flies much nicer in manual if only for that 5 to 6min or less, hope batteries get better, same goes for EVs for now.

[@BioNyccFPV]

I'm dying at "love toy" :)

[@mhmphotography400]

What happened to your FU**! DJI ticker ….. bring it back. lol

[@DimmyV]

Thanks for the breakdown. Not a fan of the Remote 2 going through the goggles 3. This should independent for reliability and redundancy.

[@fauzanfsa]

is it possible, Goggles 3 stream to Goggles 2/Integra as spectator?

[@MadRC]

Sadly no it does not work.

[@fauzanfsa]

@@MadRC oh no..

[@jonwargent2513]

What about the 03 Air Unit?

[@falloutdjsteve]

That’s the motion 1 you’re showing on the desk, which presumably is not compatible.

[@catcam]

Thanks for great content !

[@DavidOwensuk]

Very useful video Ian thank you

[@dankron_]

Not the update I'm waiting for, I need O3 support, the point is to be able to upgrade from Goggles v2 and the big ass square controller to the latest goggle 3 and controller 3, with the addition of the avata 2 that has better flight times than my FPV drones with O3.

[@snowhack8903]

Love Toy!!?? I spit my coffee out thanks.

[@Fhobbies]

You are fantastic ! Congrat !!!!

[@SSIL_FPV]

Why update doesn’t show in dji assistant 2?

[@MadRC]

DJI have limited it to the very latest fly app only. Today we don’t understand why.

[@berniepb3075]

DJI support answered: Publishing new files for Assistant2 takes a few days.

[@felixdanielramosgutierrez7921]

You rock !! Thank you

[@mcmediaandfilm]

Just want to say thank you ian for what you do make it simple and the goto videos

[@butchmarzee]

I have done all the updates but i have an issue. In auto channel mode i get only 16mbs max, i have to manually select 40mhz to reach 50mbs every time I want to take off. Anyone experienced the same?

[@MadRC]

I am seeing a quirk around this on the bench as well. Ham seems to be defaulting to 10mbps. Try the following Go to manual channels. Set to 5.8Ghz and 40Mhz Set back to auto.

[@butchmarzee]

Yes I tried that, it works till the next reboot, then it goes back to 10mhz again

[@Rk-mt4ll]

I know this is wishful thinking. but wouldn't it be great if the new update on the FPV RC2 some how fixed the horrible range problem with the 03 unit. Just a thought.

[@vadimus2007]

What range problem are you talking about? For me RC link is always equal or higher than video link, I even switched all my Vista and O3 quads from ELRS to DJI because it gives me more range. Note I am in FCC region so maybe that's the reason.

[@Rk-mt4ll]

@@vadimus2007 Thats so interesting as I went the opposite way, DJI to ELRS. I will try and find the link at DJI about all of this. Yes Im in the FCC Region

[@vadimus2007]

​@@Rk-mt4ll In my case maybe the ELRS TX is to blame, my Radiomaster Pocket has only 250mW power but I've been getting RX Loss warning way too often for my comfort, DJI link seems way more stable for me.

[@lonelyroamer]

@@vadimus2007 As you said, 250mW is not so powerful, and depends also, which kind of packet rate you are using. I mean, the difference between using 50mhz and 1000mhz at the same TX power is huge. I switched from DJI to ELRS and I cannot go back.

[@vadimus2007]

@@lonelyroamer I know. I dropped the rate to 50Hz and did not see any improvement. I have a big bulky T16 that has a full size 1W TX but I don't like the idea of carrying it with my small drones so I went DJI way.

[@stiigern]

I'm let down the Goggles 3 and FRC3 dont work with older drones. I don't want to buy old gear to try out older drones.

[@ralfaniol9292]

Danke!

[@MadRC]

Massive thank you for the amazing support

[@w1llyFPV]

What about vistas?

[@MadRC]

No on the goggles 3 and likely never will.

[@vadimus2007]

@@MadRC One more reason to stick with Integra!

[@vadimus2007]

It's love toy v1, not v2 3:25

[@MadRC]

its technically 1 & 2 as they are the same compatibility wise.

[@jc99_]

LMAOOO

[@vadimus2007]

@@MadRC On RF level maybe, not for compatibility matrix unfortunately. For example, Mini 3 Pro only supports goggles with lovetoy 2, not lovetoy 1. Also, while the "take off using DJI RC and then turn on the goggles" hack that worked for Mini 3 Pro is not working with Mini 4 Pro and Goggles 2/Integra - whichever device connects to the drone first gets an exclusive access, so either it's video in the goggles with no linked controller, or goggles are unable to connect to the drone at all. I was hoping today's update would change it but unfortunately, no side effects for Googles 2 to Mini 4 Pro found so far.

[@MrClydie_Po_Po]

It's still a happy ending though!

[@chilipez2934]

Yeah, no, that's not the MC2. The MC2 has the reverse trigger. I owned one.

[@MadRC]

Yes it’s the same Hw inside though and the compatibility is the same.

[@unRealityFPV]

shame about not being able to share with different goggles. even the V2 could spectate the goggles 2 or integra

[@gimbalair]

love toy🤣🤣🤣

[@offtheground9152]

✌️

[@kushalniroula-j6k]

I have a question. i am not able to connect my fpv controller 3 with avata 2 and googles 2. why is that? thank you sir.

[@vadimus2007]

Ian was literally showing that mix and match won't work. Goggles 2 need FPV RC2. Goggles 3 need FPV RC3. It's because with 2nd version RC talks to the drone and with 3rd version RC talks to goggles.

[@kushalniroula-j6k]

@@vadimus2007 yes i didnt watch the full video lol. thanks tho. i sold my fpv controller 2 recently and bought fpv remote 3 . this is so weird.

[@vadimus2007]

@@kushalniroula-j6k I put my FPV RC2 for sale but no one wanted it so now I might benefit from it :)

[@taylorferrell6383]

So I spent $200 on a fpv 3 remote after owning 2 fpv 2 remotes 🤦🏻‍♂️