BTS donates $1M to

BTS donates 1 milllion dollars to #BLM , do kpop idols need to speak out about #BlackLivesMatter ?, BTS and Dispatch go off at each other.
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[@floramaecarloman113]

what is going on

[@roter13]

does Danny have a hickey?

[@DKDKTV]

roter13 more on that in the After Show

[@alisiabakerjb]

So, at midnight EST. Confused with the after show on Patreon and Discord. Could someone explain this?

[@breezy9362]

I'm beginning to see David in a different light. He tries too hard to straddle the fence. Pick a side and stay there. David tries too hard to be the nice guy and not offend anyone. Also,I dont think you are nice because if u was, you wouldn't have to try that hard. Btw, stop cutting Danny off when he speaks. Danny I really like you for one reason and that's because you say what you mean, mean what you say and stand firm in your opinions and I respect that.

[@hayleylow]

Human rights should not be a controversial topic. I’m just saying. edit: I'm glad we agree. BLACK LIFES MATTER

[@user-kq4go7dz5k]

Ikr

[@rizasya7804]

Exactly, humanity not political

[@ziizhang]

Thank you love!💕💕💕

[@alperry02]

Right

[@janinas1486]

YES!!!!

[@auliakeke]

Regarding the BLM tweet by BTS that made the K-diamonds (Korean ARMY's nickname) began to understand and accept it reminds me of that time when Yoongi said something about influence. *We haven’t directly helped anyone. We’re not sponsoring or donating to all the causes. That’s what ‘influence’ is. Giving them an opportunity to take a step forward through us.* - Yoongi, Bring The Soul: Docu-series Ep.4 Influence Ever since that day I heard Yoongi said this, it never leaves my mind, not even a single time. That's a powerful statement coming from no other than Min Yoongi. And it hits harder at times like this. BTS and BigHit donated $1 Million to Black Lives Matter and ARMY began to donate with the hashtag MatchAMillion which now crosses over $1 Million today. That's what influence means. Goosebumps.

[@raerohan4241]

ARMY was already donating even before BTS’s post though. I saw plenty of that on my feed. The 1M match is definitely a big plus though

[@auliakeke]

Rae Rohan yes, everyone were already donating and it's incredible to see how One In An ARMY conducted the MatchAMillion. I'm proud.

[@bangtanmessage7065]

mybe bts donate 1M becouse the hashtag, to support army doing.. remember not always army follow bts , but bts also follow what army do , we support each other , army learn a lot from bts and bts also learn from army ..

[@nishugangwar5980]

@@bangtanmessage7065 army started that MatchAMillion AFTER it was revealed that Bts donated 1 million ...

[@carlagirl7]

Thank you so much for sharing that!

[@glm557]

I agree with another comment here, BTS's views on political and social issues are one of the main reasons why other kpop acts (specifically SM acts) never make it in the west. They don't have the artistic merit nor do they typically have the freedom to speak on these issues. The way BTS is marketed as not only a pop group who are cute, funny and make good music but also as introspective, aware and have substance in their music have really helped them suceed in the west, a market where ethics and the social climate often directly corrolate with what artists put in their music and openly address.

[@cyberjoo.n]

I agree with this right here bts is doing something right that sm hasn't even learned. Yet and trying to make superm to be like bts or something like that

[@borararax2]

if SM can survive Chen's marital status and newfound fatherhood, then they can handle making a BLM statement imo

[@LaurenJewel]

exactly

[@XxHaylster98]

yep i better not see bits of black culture in their next NCT videos. Period.

[@norabeckwith2113]

@@XxHaylster98 too late

[@zamahsays7888]

@@XxHaylster98 Lmao you have high hopes fam

[@cristinalopez4839]

but some nct members, talk about it through their instagram..if they donate to the movement, they don´t need to make it public..

[@n_z_a]

This entire episode was "I DONT WANT TO GET SUED"

[@em5522]

I thought that was the channel's name 🤔

[@graceangelica9]

They know that with one wrong word they may say someone that's watching might email BH in a snap.

[@n_z_a]

@@graceangelica9 don't blame them, everyones always waiting to get offended!

[@virginia_the_elder]

LOL

[@AyaKay413]

BTS and Dispatch are having a really bad breakup. We need to give them their space. 🤣

[@akanshaborthakur3490]

Dispatch is behaving like a petty ex

[@Yeonbin]

dispatch is that bitter ex who shit talks about u to other ppl to destroy ur reputation

[@rm-nn3869]

The "agreement" is OVERRRR

[@netanyasmit1482]

@@akanshaborthakur3490 HOLY SHIT you're right.😮😮

[@jangwonyoung6884]

funny how dispatch doesnt give space to idols lol

[@key6453]

saying Black Lives Matter is not a political statement. Basic human rights is not political

[@respectthejibooty9542]

If you really think about it, it would most definitely be put in the political category even though what you are saying is correct

[@Heurimko76225]

@Kristýna Staňková You are right

[@pykng5695]

Blm is an organisation supporting Marxism and causing millions of dollars in property damages . Founder use the money to buy herself million dollar house to live in.

[@meemac4709]

Agree!

[@meemac4709]

BTS said their piece in a very eloquently setting aside politics.

[@jovee2499]

So...basiclly the "Big 3", aren't speaking out because they are concerned with their profits? For me, that means they don't care about BLM! This is one of the reasons I LOVE BTS! They know how to put people before profit. For everyone that's upset about the rioting, you have no idea what's really going on. Educate yourself before you make judgments. You don't have to teach your son what to do if a police officer pulls him over.

[@Carolina-wz2qo]

The companies themselves definitely do not care about BLM. That doesn't mean the idols don't, but especially idols from big companies are literally not allowed to speak about anything or post anything or make any statements that aren't approved by the company. There are a lot of foreign artists under the Big 3 so chances are a good amount of them do actually care but aren't allowed to say anything. Basically, don't take the companies' views to represent the idols', but at the same time we can't assume that an idol cares if they don't say anything. Just, don't assume they're racist when they have no power or ability to make any political statements or defend themselves

[@Rivaer]

As an American I respect BTS for speaking up. They aren't just a frog in a well. Black lives matter isn't political it is a human issue. Staying silent is why things continue here.

[@zeyphr1362]

It just show how much humble ,respectable and concerned human beings bts are

[@Rivaer]

@Star 2 I said "Speaking up" not just BLM... but I know they stand for many other things. I respect them greatly for it.

[@bangtanfollower757]

@@zeyphr1362 Supporting a terrorist organization is humble?

[@liveloveARIA]

I’m trying to understand how human rights are controversial.

[@mayraortega5888]

its not. its the fact that people felt the need to shame/insult/call out/spam bts for not publicly stating their humanitarian activities even though they have been supportive from the very beginning.

[@lightefilit]

Human rights isn't but BLM is still an issue about mostly America fighting their own forces. All of the petitions and donations are made towards USA. It IS political in the end.

[@casieg.7040]

@@lightefilit but black people and immigrants all over the world have been discriminated, it's just the America tends to be louder about it since we're very aware of it. But don't let other countries fool you, they discriminate against people of color everywhere. For example, there's colorism in Mexico where if you have any ounce of melanin on your skin you're considered ugly and bad. The police in Mexico are only there to serve the corrupt government and the narcos meanwhile killing a man for not wearing a mask. Police brutality happens everywhere and people are starting to see that. The ones who made this a political issue are the ones who have manipulated politics to make sure the people of color stay at a disadvantage. The ones who are trying to fix it are the ones who see it as a human rights issue.

[@ayjaybay93]

@@lightefilit the country something is happening in doesn't change it from a human rights issue to a political issue, I don't know where you got that idea from. As a matter of fact, most genocides (which are cut and dry human rights issues) usually happen in a single country. It is a usually a government or authoritative class/group in a country that is violating human rights.

[@lightefilit]

Casie G. You missed my point.

[@MamtaSingh-ke4vq]

I like the guy in glasses, he has no filter and is brutally honest

[@XxHaylster98]

we have no choice BUT to stan!

[@monoreum]

now that BTS talked and donated to BLM, ARMY matched their donation which is really AMAZING. 💜

[@eb5721]

Bts donating 1 million dollars Armys: how dare bts donate 1 million dollars and not including us Armys one day later: ah BTW we just donated 1 million dollars too I stan the right band and I am definitely in the right fandom

[@abenamensah8053]

Ikr

[@zeyphr1362]

Just leJINdery things uk

[@niiyah3148]

Man Army is unbelievable...Just Love how yall have their backs no matter what even when it comes down to people hating them, Yall protect them like if they your younger siblings or whatever!! and I love seeing that!!! now... Thaaaaat is the definition of ARMY!!!

[@sarahlouise4606]

“I stan the right group*” sorry, couldn’t control myself LOL

[@carolyn05]

Saying "Black Lives Matters" is not only an America specific statement. It's a world wide problem. Look at the way Black people are being treated in countries around the world (including Korea). Kpop groups making a statement in support can show solidarity with the movement and against racism. I saw so many racist posts on weverse before the statement. Afterwards? I didn't see a single one. It's not just about being relevant but also about being a role model. Edit: Wow okay. So, I didn't see this had turned into a whole discourse. My point is that SAYING Black lives matters is something that should be taken into account world wide. Black lives matter whether you are in the US or in Russia. I'm Dominican and there is racism in my country too. Therefore, there is a need for awareness on racism. THAT is what I mean by saying Black lives matters is not only something that needs to be said in America. Of course, one band making a comment isn't going to change the world, but it can start a discussion. Just like the one going on here. It can open conversations about racism in your own life and in your own country. I am also not disregarding the existence of racism against Asian people. That is something that needs to be discussed as well. However, at the moment I am talking about the racism that Black people face worldwide.

[@danyliv2028]

I thinks it could also inspire other minorities to speak up. Because my god east Asians get so bullied in Europe and Arabs struggle just because of their last name. I hope they will be able to speak up too

[@weakling5358]

Black To Grace true

[@sleepyfriendstm]

@@Lucia-te1wp BLM didn't start as a global movement, but we can make it one. BTS didn't start off as global artists, but look what hard work and a positive message can become.

[@realrosesarered5618]

Its racism and discrimination which really makes me think what time was i born in it brought positive yet very negative things

[@mailperhuawei3767]

Racism is a global issue, however the movement Black lives matter is a movement that focuses specifically on African-Americans and issues that black people face within the United States. Honestly, we have racism in my country too and if I had any money to donate, I'd much prefer to donate to black-liberation movements in my own country, rather than the US. I don't get why when an issue is specifically American it has to become a global issue. Don't black people in my country deserve the same respect and outrage when they are discriminated against, as the ones we're seeing right now? Yet no one cares about that, despite all the abuses they face. I don't get why everything must always be so american-centric. The US is not the centre of the world and it's time to end US imperialism, and that comprehends cultural imperialism too

[@DragonsFlare]

Like Jay Park said, if you do not want to support black lives matter, then STAY AWAY FROM OUR CULTURE. Do not wear dreads and other "ethnic hip" styles, don't make rap, and don't ask for our help if you are ever in need. You do not deserve to profit from our culture and history. Those idols need to remember that the next time they want to make a "hip hop style" video or song. I am ashamed of thos artists as a black kpop fan.

[@ndj9576]

But BTS donate and speak about it

[@jayceyallen7745]

Julio Nicodemus They aren't talking aboBTS they're talking about artist who haven't spoken up about it despite using things from our culture

[@EGoPRiNCExx]

Julio Nicodemus why are people always bringing bts into the conversation, its about kpop as a whole

[@BatsAndBadgers]

To the rest of the world...it's no black culture...it's American culture. What i mean by this is, the rest of the world just see what you export based on where it came from. If you came to Europe you would be seen as American before black

[@rinalay7192]

BatsAndBadgers Yeah I hear you but it’s not accurate view to have at all. Hip hop, street style, certain songs, certain dances and certain speech and slang or hair styles.....all those things everyone admires world wide were created by Black Americans. Not all Americans. I actually really dislike that people don’t realize it. It’s horrible.

[@tavleenkaur2796]

I think, Kpop is too big now, to keep quiet about BlackLivesMatter. Period.

[@zamahsays7888]

PERIOD. And as danny said, if it wants to be taken seriously they honestly should have said something. Even if its just a short message like what bts did. That honestly would have been enough to show that they are in tune with current events and care about a portion of their target market.

[@busanbaepsaetm2226]

"it would make kpop respected at a different level" "who does the world respect more Tupac or NSYNC?" I completely agree!! I know a lot of older people listen to kpop too, but if kpop idols were more open in talking about world problems, it would completely change the way outsider see kpop too. They'll think it less and less as just a teens and kids music genre.

[@blueorchid9455]

yeah is not like they should feel obligated but i think they should be free to talk about itwith no restrictions. it's sad to think that being against racism can be such a groundbreaking deal.

[@thecatinthepowermv]

As much as I would love for every idol to speak up about this, I doubt that everyone can. I guess it really depends on how much control the companies have over their artists. I mean if they can't even speak up about their own mistreatment I doubt they can about anything else. Let's hope that the ones that have the freedom will do so like bts did

[@HangingGarden606]

Tupac was imprisoned for gang rape, so NSYNC. American celebrities shouldn't insert themselves into the national affairs of Korea, and vice versa. This is just like Kony 2012, it's a fad.

[@BluesRiffage]

It's not a very good comparison to begin with, but Tupac's enduring legacy is helped a lot by the fact that he died young and in his prime, which the general public takes to much more than artists who stick around and fade away. Rage Against the Machine were infinitely more political than any of their peers, but I can easily name over a dozen bands from the '90s who were significantly bigger and remembered more today.

[@jocelyn9744]

@@BluesRiffage But in BTS's case talking abt social issues allowed people who listen to them to feel more connected to them (especially when their lyrics started talking about mental health) which leads to a boom in their fandom Maybe an artist who talk more about not necessarily super political subjects, but issues and problems that are widely defended or talked by people (I don't know what Rage against the Machine most often talked abt specifically maybe were their statements and opinions much more different than what is agreed on? Or issues that were not relevant to so much people?)

[@euphoricmonika]

BLM is a human rights movement and like Danny said, these artists should be using their platform to help. Another reason I think it is important for K-Pop artists to speak on it is due to how much of Kpop is influenced by Black culture / music and the person that spoke the best about that influence was CL on her instagram post (go see it if you haven't already). You can't ignore the struggle of an entire group of people while also taking whatever you like from that same people. The donation BTS made is incredibly commendable and the fact that ARMY's decided to match their donation shows why it is important for people with big platforms to at least speak up or take a stance. That however does not mean it's okay to harass or bully people for not speaking up. At the end of the day, it's the persons own choice as well as how much control they even have in their own life to be able to do what they want.

[@wildrice949]

This was the comment I am looking for. Basically, Kpop only wants to make money off the black culture. It's all about business. They don't give a f about humanity and black people are dying because of police brutality. I also agreed it's not right to harass people if they don't speak up. At least we know where they stand. It's up to fans if they want to continue to support these agencies. You always have a choice.

[@enimofe5100]

This is spot on. Kpop is influenced so much by black culture but when it comes to actually standing with vkack people they want to say silent.

[@nesswilliams6929]

Agree

[@blueorchid9455]

@@Lucia-te1wp ignore him i think he is high or just stupid, plain stupid. i hope its the first one otherwise it's sad

[@ujwalakaniyadi4642]

I think everything has happened is amazing but army's were donating the same amt or more way before BTS spoke. Also armys wudnt even have known about the donation if the charity did not talk about it. So even if BTS spoke and the donation was not made public the matchamillion wud not have happened.

[@eli-kave]

The dude with glasses was speaking the goddamn truth regarding the BLM movement and taking a stand. Respect my man.

[@dormlife756]

Why would talking about human rights offend anyone?

[@2phonebabykeem913]

They’re too stupid to truly understand why people are protesting, or they’re racist

[@jaiijeanjacques8275]

I’m with Danny on this video. Why do y’all even cancel him, he always speaks his honest thought🤦🏾‍♀️

[@persona8208]

He has always been blunt and honest, sometimes you don't agree with him sometimes yo do. I was so sad to see ARMYs canceling him, I saw the whole interview and I understood his point. He was expressing an outsider's perspective, who is not an ARMY. Because they always publish BTS contents, because obvious reasons they can't skip it, many many people might have thought they were ARMY, but it's a kpop channel, not a BTS channel. So they were pissed because he said something which came off as anti BTS but it was not, it was a Non-ARMY point of view. They accused them for using BTS for the sake of their channel which is also not true, because BTS is relevant that if they want stay honest with their content they have to have BTS content. Many did unsubscribe them, without understanding

[@jennaeveliina313]

@@persona8208 if you go and watch theyre waaay earlier videos, reaction videos, I'm pretty sure they are armys. And why wouldnt they be? I guess I dont really get youre comment here... And I'm pretty sure its not just armys cancelling him, he is just what he is.

[@belhomarwa7924]

@@jennaeveliina313 can I please know what he said that people want to cancel him ?

[@alondraa.3522]

@@belhomarwa7924 he did this interview where he said that he was "exhausted" of bts, and that they should give other groups a chance at being successful, then when armys rightfully were upset with him he acted like a child. So, he basically dissed the group that has fought and earned their success, and the group that he profits off by making videos about them.

[@hikariuchiha977]

@@alondraa.3522 which interview is this?

[@dan32123]

Idols: Sips tea somewhere Dispatch: Cameras ready, lets get creepy.

[@eri6130]

U basically summed up what namjoon was saying in DDAENG “frog in a well”

[@alperry02]

Yep. RM's verse summed up the entire 2nd half of this vid. Frogs staying in their well

[@zamahsays7888]

OMG YESSSS LOL. And then they wonder why bts is so huge, while they failed to even leave a dent in the west xD

[@alizee7839]

And that's why BTS is a whole different breed of artists and on the top. And them being up there is why many kpop fans are hating on them becoz their idols tend to be looked down upon when compared to BTS. BTS also have a lot to lose by talking about their truth, but atleast they have the balls. They are authentic and people see through it that's why theyre more appreciated globally (aside from more obvious set of talents of course)

[@tle8137]

Right? I remember BTS spoke up and I ALSO remember those who didn’t. Go, ARMY!

[@DKDKTV]

Regarding the 'POLITICAL' : I was rebutting to danny's statement about POLITICS being a requirement for KPOP idols, in GENERAL, NOT BLM. WATCH 27:55. I LITERALLY SAY 'POLITICS IN GENERAL', 'INDEPENDENTLY' AND 'HUMAN RIGHTS'. im not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLMim not talking about BLM

[@jklife2481]

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[@kimdanny4902]

Okay chill david geez

[@isamise]

Wait, you weren't talking about BLM? It's still not that clear lol. I appreciate that you guys have taken the time to try to understand why the movement exists. I think a lot of people assume its about politics and leave it that.

[@kentokim]

@@shweta-im2vq Because it's a human rights issue about an entire race that is being treated unjustly. They can change that. Other Korean artists said that they owe a lot to black culture and want to show their support.🤨 Nth room everyone just needs to go to jail period no words said.

[@DKDKTV]

@@NiNA-cj1wd OMG DID YOU EVEN READ MY COMMENT

[@zeyphr1362]

the fact that armys have been donating ,doing campaigns ,petitions from the past 7 years but no one gonna acknowlegde that ..also Bts always donated silently .so armys ...but these haters n kpopies just gonna hate whatever Bts do...like they donated half of their salary even before they spoke ...they always talk about racism ,equality,depression ,,,and they faced the most discrimination and hate in their own country and still doing...But when it is BTS ...like they have rights to hate

[@persona8208]

We will always be the toxic fandom, no matter what!! I don't deny the existence of immature and toxic fans but which fandom doesn't have them? I am so done with the antis, who try to act like critiques. When Itaewon scandal happened, there were four idols from different companies, two of them had activities but Jungkook got the backlash. The company apologized, they are like why didn't he apologize? After he did on the radio show, now why Yoongi didn't apologize? Until they were vocal about BLM, antis were labeling them as racist. When they spoke they told to open their wallets. When they donated, it's not enough. When ARMYs contributed with them, the knetz were like why didn't you donate for covid in Korea? Is USA more important? They donated for covid also. In fact we may not know how much actually they donated as all of them are not made public. At this point they are just haters who have useless favs who can't take any action about anything just can hate the people who take actions. I am so pissed

[@ayupuspita5660]

Sis I'm so sick of those haters n kpoopies! I literally saw how people degrading BTS on twitter so army came to defend BTS then the haters really said "why r u guys attacking people like that? No wonder army called the most toxic bla bla bla". Like what? We just defend our faves and the haters is the one who attack us first but army is the one labelled as toxic. Wtf right?

[@user-fc5jb8gz6y]

Stop using a movement about the unjustified deaths and struggles of my people to fuel your stupid fan wars, thanks.

[@michellevyanca5280]

@@persona8208 true and the simple truth is, people will NEVER EVER be satisfied. Bts can literally donate their net worth or support all the movements all around the world and people will still find something to bash or to nitpick about them about. As long as we true armys know and trust that bts are some of the kindest, passionate, generous and compassionate people in the world, that's enough.

[@belhomarwa7924]

@@persona8208 well haters gonna hate and players gonna play

[@JuustJazzy17]

I’m proud of BTS and BigHit because they’ve always been outspoken about everything. From politics to loving yourself. BTS are changing the world and I’m glad they have the courage to speak about important issues. Danny is right, kpop idols need to grow some balls. They take things from other cultures and make money from them. So yeah grow some balls ☕️

[@urbndaze]

It’s great that BTS made a statement on the matter, but I didn’t like how some fans and antis were badgering them about it. Real fans would know their character and trust where they stood on the issue of BLM. Really though at the end of the day they are celebrities. You shouldn’t need a celebrity to be your moral compass.

[@michellevyanca5280]

Yes to this 100%. When I first heard about blm, I did wonder when bts would post about it, because knowing each of their personality, none of them would want to be silent about this matter. NEVER did I doubt them or their intentions. Some people were saying that they were racist/attention seeking etc. I even saw someone complaining that bts were "late" to talk about blm. Like blm is not a trend that will die down like a popular meme?? It is relevant no matter when you talk about it?? One good thing we can get out of this is that those fake fans will stop stanning and I hope the toxicity can go away at least a little bit in the fandom

[@urbndaze]

@@michellevyanca5280 Yeah I don't expect those "fans" to stick around for the long haul. They're just looking for any reason to unstan, which is fine by me. It'll just make it easier to get tickets. lol

[@urbndaze]

@@s.mclovin800 Oh really, 60% huh? As far as I know, they don't do surveys on race before concerts, so stop making up random ass statistics. They don't owe anyone anything, and they don't need entitled so-called fans who make demands.

[@ariascarlet9149]

@@s.mclovin800 omg PREACH motherf'n PREACH

[@ariascarlet9149]

@@urbndaze ummmm did they not make their debut with a hiphop concept? did they not learn from COOLIO during ahl? Do they not continuously immitate black culture making hip-hop, trap, rnb and jazz type music and using the same style of dance? Excuse me but I LOVE BTS but I'm not gonna play like they don't draw inspiration from black music and culture as well as other cultures. So yea they kind do owe the black community something.. thank you very much.

[@nimrahasif2767]

I like how 90% of the time David and Danny have contradicting opinions😂.

[@sarahlouise4606]

that’s what makes this channel great

[@AaAa-kv9fj]

Actually, here they kinda agree, but don't realize they do. Danny is saying what kpop should do, and David is saying, why they don't

[@insazzie]

sometimes Danny likes to play devils advocate to start a conversation and to further think about the topic, which i like.

[@anywherebuthere91]

I think part of their format must be deliberately picking different aspects of issues to talk about, like maybe they decide beforehand what parts they will talk about.

[@uhliketheplanet]

That’s what makes it interesting

[@vanishingalleycat]

i feel like danny is like secretly some k pop industry spy lmaooo and he knows like everything in the community but wont tell anyone

[@anonymous4244]

I swear to god he actually works at bighit lmao

[@nataliepham9042]

@@anonymous4244 I low key believe so

[@DefineMorena]

Yeah, he and some other kpop youtubers know a lot of tea 🍵 👀

[@sarahlouise4606]

when in Korea, especially in seoul, if you go to the right places and talk to the right people/connections, you can get a lot of intel actually

[@sardinesandpyjamas]

He has a bighit shaman

[@divinapogipogi]

i can feel how frustrated danny is at the end lmao. i agree w him so much on this one and its good that bts spoke up and used their platform for it. their influence after donating and speaking up, the armys have managed to raise a million dollars in less than in 24 hours. non-armys do not know how much comfort this gave to the fans especially black armys. thanks for the coverage and discussing this with us!

[@TheRealityofFake]

I kind of feel two ways about idols speaking out about BLM. On one hand, I don't really expect them to talk about BLM because they don't even talk about politics in Korea (which I think is a huge problem in general). But on the other hand, we we need to acknowledge how much kpop is influenced by Black culture and music. CL put out an amazing post on instagram about the Black artists that influenced her, from fashion to dance to expressions. So it feels wrong to have an industry that incorporates these aspects into kpop without acknowledging where they come from and the struggle that the people who created these things are going through. Also, people should use this current moment to think about how BLM applies to their environment. There are Black people living in Korea and I know they face discrimination. Is Korea talking about this. And outside of Black populations, there are minority populations in every country, whether it's racial minorities, religious minorities or sexual minorities. Use this moment to think about others around you are treated and what you can do to try to make things better, even if it is simply just creating a post to raise awareness.

[@pr3ci0us72]

"But on the other hand, we we need to acknowledge how much kpop is influenced by Black culture and music." This! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@michellevyanca5280]

I agree and sometimes the idols want to speak out about it but might be silenced by their company. Even a member of a girl group supposedly got fired because she posted about blm. So I understand some concerns but artists and groups with more stability and influence should use their platform to talk about issues to raise awareness. And about discrimination against black people in Korea, it's heartbreaking really. I saw a video where a black girl said a guy looked at her in disgust and spit on her while she was walking on the streets just minding her own business. Most people wouldn't sit next to her on the bus/train etc. It disgusts me that some people treat others this way simply because of the colour of their skin

[@tinylumberjack1353]

Idols do deserve the right to speak on matters that are important to them. However, I do understand that it can feel not as simple as just speaking out for Idols, especially those with international fans. We can all agree that BLM is an important movement but there also are many other countries and cultures facing similar issues of oppression violence and human rights violations, so how do they decide which issues are important to speak on and which aren't? Are we equally condemning western artists for not speaking on global issues, or is it ok for *them* to only care and speak out on issues that effect their own countries? I sometimes question whether some people truly care about whether idols speak on the issues, or if they only care about whether idols speak out about the issues that *THEY* want them to? It can be a slippery slope of complaining that idols are puppets for their companies, without the autonomy to act humanely, while also (as fans and consumers) treating them like dolls that we can force to act and speak in the way that *WE* want them to. We tell them to eat well and take time to rest, unless they gain weight or aren't putting out as much content as we'd like. We tell them we just want them to be happy, unless happiness comes in the form of outside friends or (god forbid) dating. We want them to speak, unless it's not what we want them to say... without taking into account they are human beings with their own feelings and viewpoints. Basically, I just think that the hypocritical way the *some* people within fandoms behave towards idols has some effect on the freedom that even socially conscious artists feel about speaking out on subjects that could be considered controversial. Someone will always be upset by what they said, when they said it, or what they didn't say about something else.

[@afia7425]

Omg this needs more likes. It's awesome, great even if an idol speaks up about BLM, but if they don't people can't just assume that they don't care about it. I heard some people say that they are really disappointed in *idol group* because they haven't spoken up about BLM. It would be great if every idol could speak up and donate money to this movement, but what about other movements happening across the world? What about those thousands of people in the middle east who protest get oppressed and even killed for women's rights? Or those who get killed for gay rights? When idols don't speak on those issues no one has a problem it then. And I just want to emphasize that it's amazing to those idols who already donated and used their platform for good in spreading awareness about the BLM movement.

[@booksquirm92]

Omg i was looking for this comment! I want everyone to see this

[@tinylumberjack1353]

@@Lucia-te1wp Every country can be a bit "self" centered, but few take it to the level that America (and of course notable others) do of expecting every one else to also be centering themselves around them. Expecting the world to always be behind them, while giving little if anything back in regards to global issues that don't directly effect them in some way. It is important to speak out when you see wrong in the world, but it's also important to remember the world isn't limited to just one country, one culture, one issue.

[@mia-pn2jx]

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[@Mariwil74]

Yes, there are issues of importance all over the world that deserve the same attention but it would be impossible for any one person or artist to address them all. I think what makes BLM a focus here is that the k-pop industry has borrowed so heavily, and in many cases appropriated, from Black culture-it’s a cornerstone of the music and the aesthetic. So while BLM may seem to be an American issue (although discrimination and oppression against Blacks and other POC is an international issue), there’s actually a very direct connection and at the very least, those artists who have benefitted from it have a responsibility to speak out.

[@SirenRising]

Danny is asking for idols to be more genuine and empathetic to the average person in their message, which I agree. I also think if you borrow or use aspects from a particular culture/community then you should be sensitive to the troubles that the community or culture that you're borrowing from is facing.

[@kmcrain26]

Well said

[@pubixcube27]

I think that goes for the entire industry as a whole. They make a living off of exploring black music and culture so the least they can do is support the movement that stands for the people that influence their said industry. Giving their artists a platform to speak on the subject

[@KeikoKeepSmiling]

Well said.

[@Yvonne-ll9jd]

Exactly

[@Redabook7]

Yes thank you!

[@MsLaLa-nq6mi]

Danny was really making a good point. I just want to know that my fave artist understands what their fans are going through. We just want to know that they care about our well being.

[@moontokkym_art]

If the statement "I think the people who are meant to protect us shouldn't kill us" is political, then the problem is so big that anyone with any degree of influence should talk about it.

[@JCM-kq4ni]

Definitely agree with Danny! Speaking up will gain artists a respect.

[@ines8923]

23:10 onwards took balls to say and balls to do

[@Rawan-wc8qu]

Armys we are makeing a donation of 2 million dollars now

[@saramax.9516]

كفوووو احنا معاك

[@zeyphr1362]

Bts and army legends

[@tannie618tran7]

last I saw was one million one hundred thousand and something.. should be more now

[@whatreallymatters571]

I'm really proud of Army's. BTS really does have a powerful and sincere support system. This is why it's important to speak up and raise awareness when you have a huge platform.

[@dannajanecadalin2193]

I agree to danny, stepping up,speaking up and use your voice. That’s why bts and bighit is always the Center of attention cuz they’re the only one who is much ahead and always taking a risk.

[@mochibun3890]

One of the biggest problems of idols not speaking up about BLM is that so many idols have built their entire careers off of black culture. So many kpop groups would not be here without black people and culture. I mean look at YG. If it weren’t for black culture the entire company would cease to exist. Bigbang would not exist. Blackpink would not exist. Winner, Ikon, 2ne1 etc. All the millions in their bank accounts is thanks to black people and their culture. They all wanna enjoy and profit off black people when it comes to music, dancing, clothes, hairstyles and all the fun stuff but want to ignore all the bad stuff that comes along with it. Nah you can’t pick and choose what you want to engage with when you’re profiting off of a culture built on oppression and struggle. The hypocrisy is insane with some of these artists. Imagine doing hip hop, a genre born from the racism and oppression of black people and staying silent when black people are being murdered in the streets. It’s honestly disgusting. I mean both Crush and CL said it themselves in their Instagram posts and I applaud them for it. ANYONE who engages in black culture should be speaking up about BLM right now. Those that don’t need to leave black culture the fuck alone. Istg if I hear Gdragon come out with another hiphop song rapping about his struggles or whatever the fuck I will lose my shit. The delusion is out the window. He has lost a lot of respect in my eyes.

[@vijayravi1099]

Yeah but its not only gdragon and yg Entertainment alot of other kpop artists who got influenced should Talk about it too

[@mochibun3890]

ovia ravi Um can you read? I said ANYONE that engages with black culture has to speak up. Where did I say only YG and GD? I mentioned them as examples because they are the biggest offenders of profiting off of black culture in kpop and not a single person from that company has said a word on the matter. I also have a personal issue with GD because he loves to act woke and like he says whatever he wants and calls out bullshit but it’s a facade. He’ll happily call out stupid stuff like the mama awards but when the people he’s profiting off are dying he’s suddenly mute? Lmao.

[@mikapettigrew5675]

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@meisiuleung2830]

So you guys wont be happy until they commit suicide? Other people can say what they want to say but not GD, not Big Bang. They are being attacked all the time, just like what you are doing right now! They are doomed if they say something and they are doomed if they don't! Some people are fighting mental issues everyday, Of course, you don't know, you are not a fan. Anyone a little familiar with them would understand what kind of situation they are in right now. Yes, BLM, do their lives matter to you? Obviously not....

[@undramaticfanofworld9862]

Danny went OFF but I also agree with David's POV. Both have some equally convincing points in their discussions. But yeah, don't go overboard with forcing the idols, because brought sympathy is never gonna last and never real.

[@meme101RE]

Undramatic Fan of World I agree with what your saying but I do think if people express how important this issue is to these companies then it can help the awareness of the cause. I think people should be kind with how they are bringing such awareness. But at the end of the day if one idol is even “acting” like they care then it will influence a number of people to actually pay attention and look into this worldwide issue. Also your profile pic is amazing

[@michellevyanca5280]

Danny was passionate and I respect that 😂 he went off. And I actually agree with the both of them. Kpop is generally not a "respected" genre or industry because they rarely talk about stuff that actually matters. Although, as society is getting more educated and enlightened, there are some kpop artists starting to break that stereotype and talk about relevant issues.

[@TheGreenRee]

Agreed. I resonate with what Danny said throughout the video, but I don't believe in forcing idols (or anybody) to speak on the issue. I can understand David's POV but I can accept his "ignorance" excuses for only so long (especially when Japan had a mass protest and China spoke out about the issue!!). But since SOME idols have spoken out, like CL, GOT7's Mark, and BTS....its not expected but major kudos to them.

[@melvinsupatan8889]

BTS and Big Hits action very simple. .being HUMAN!!

[@MilesJaiProductions]

24:50 Danny out here spittin facts!!!

[@edff6890]

❤

[@Pinaysis86]

BLM isn’t politics. It’s basic humanity. There is a wrong or a right. No grey areas. Many of these idols use hip hop/rap/r&b in their music. Where do you think these influences come from? The BLACK COMMUNITY. So it’s not good enough to use them as influences for your music then turn around and not support them when they need it the most. Idols need to use their platform for good. I’m not going to lie, I was waiting on BTS to make a statement of some sort because their music is sooooooooooo heavily influenced by Black culture that I almost felt they were required to show support and like the Kings that they are they went above and beyond the call! Their statement and donation brought me so much joy and peace. It’s why I stan them so hard. They are just an amazing group of men. Other idols that haven’t taken note, should. They have fans that are POC and Black. I get the whole Korean fan focus but it’s wrong to take our money and then not show support during this movement. If our money is good enough for you then so should our skin color. Support the movement! Black Lives Matter!

[@artyk5565]

Ikr, I honest had no high expectations tho I wished they did speak atleast a bit,, and on the day they did I was literally so fucking happy that day like it felt as if they comforted me and HELL YEAH I STAN THE BEST PEOPLE 😭😭

[@immealldayeveryday9425]

Yup this is exactly y I only go hard for BTS yes I listen to other KPOP groups but BTS will still get all my votes and purchases I literally only go hard for them lol...but it’s because they truly are great individuals who always inspire and motivate they speak out against injustice and truly use their platform to speak up

[@exquisitaeye]

EXACTLY!!!

[@yoongles8078]

Welp BTS did use it in a right way..i mean listen and understand their old songs. They were a hiphop group and as they grow they make more songs with different genres.

[@bangtanfollower757]

All lives matter!

[@iamrosie2468]

I’ve been trying to get one of my black friends to listen to BTS, he produces music, but he wouldn’t give them a chance bc he accused them of cultural appropriation. I talked to him last night, and he was so thankful for their support, that he will now give them a chance.

[@euphoria4013]

Well done Army 💜

[@tokkibeanie]

People confuse culture appropriation. It’s appreciation. I know the Japanese are sick of westerners making issues about culture appropriation about there own country. I’ve seen many comments saying westerners make everything about race and diversity and basically said they are the real racist. It’s interesting that people here from the US are telling people not wear or draw certain anime characters unless they look Japanese. Japanese people were pissed. They don’t draw anime characters with slant eye or make them a certain skin tone becuz that’s how they want to draw them and they don’t use there race to define themselves as Japanese. I think the US needs to mind there own business especially social justice warriors who think they are doing a good deed but In reality there pissing off foreigners from other countries.

[@bluedays6794]

moonchild bts did use to appropriate black culture but now they are much more educated

[@zeyphr1362]

the fact that ppl used blm and every situation to just hate and cancel BTS...hilarious

[@Luatena_]

EXACT!

[@ElwoodShort]

I was actually surprised that Big Hit and BTS actually came out in support of BLM. Delighted they did, but i have to admit, given the cautious nature of Korean entertainment companies to commit politically, I did not expect it. I think you make a great point about Seo Taji though. Having balls and making statements IS the way to garner international respect. But sometimes you just want something to cheer you up. So yeah, arguments both sides. If any company and artist in S Korea are in a position where they can afford that risk, then it is Big Hit and BTS.

[@jorge3234]

20:50 That's why BTS and Bighit is different from every other group/ company in korea

[@TheBroadwalk]

Do NOT take a shot every time Danny says, “Balls”! You will get rekt 😂😂😂

[@ghostaetip3494]

I dont care about kpop industry in general nor i trust them. Bts is doing okay and they never disappointed me and that's enough for me

[@abenamensah8053]

Same

[@SarahIsrath]

Girl, same.

[@sg-te9pu]

same

[@raerohan4241]

Preach. BTS are just genuinely good people. They’ve proven that plenty of times over and continue to do so now

[@watashi_no_proxy]

@@queenii haters just cant wait to jump on any opportunity to drag down bts. I love the fact that they waited for the donation transfer .

[@TheOneKnee]

20:40 Danny quote of the day.. Best thing he said cos it's true.. these artist have the platform but they nvr wanna use to educate more about what's happening.. its not about being in trend and supporting but its being relevant and using your voice to influence positivity and understanding.. being conservative is just an excuse now.. it's 2020, and ppl are still judgey? uh.. get with the programme.. Sad truth..

[@a-life1932]

So proud to say... I stan "BALLS" BTS and DKDKTV Nothing beats those Who knows who they are and What they stand to.

[@malinm1615]

To add another nuance to the discussion. While I agree that it is important that idols speak (and CAN speak) about some social issues I see a lot of comments about how the artists art saves someone's life and gave them an escape from reality. I think balance is important. Society should allow idols to speak up, but not pressure them into it. Because in the end, how genuine is something said under pressure?

[@m1jime]

Exactly. That’s what went through my mind when I was seeing people question and pressure BTS about speaking/not speaking up about BLM

[@lisas44]

This. It's escapism and now I associate BTS with BLM. Since Floyd's death, at least 18 people have been killed, and its now hard to separate the group from sad current divisive events.

[@itznate9171]

That’s literally like a toxic relationship. You want love out of someone but when they finally oblige it feels bittersweet and not genuine. And you feel like they’re lying. But if they give you affection out of nowhere it feels heartwarming. So stop looking for the bittersweet solution.

[@suhailanaz]

Well said

[@TheGreenRee]

If kpop artists dont want to speak up, that's fine and its not expected. I'm still a kpop fan. At the end of the day, I've heard horror stories from expats on how racist koreans can be against non-whites and especially black people. Im not saying all or most koreans are like this but S. Korea is a monoethnic country after all, so their views on America and blacks will be distorted. On the other hand, if you do a quick search, you will see most of the world gets it, understands the reasons for the protests. With that being said, the same way I don't want white people to be forced to care about the cause is the same way i dont want other races (including koreans) to feel forced to care either. You truly don't understand if you don't live everyday with darker skin.

[@turquoise2332]

Regarding should idols speak out about BLM; - First of all, I think they should. They have a platform so they should use it. They can't just use elements of black culture and thrive using these elements and completely disregard the injustices happening to those who created that culture. That just gives the entirety of kpop an even worse name than it already does - BUT I don't think its fair to out right insult and harrass the idols if they don't either. (Ex) Like what some people were doing with BTS before they spoke out. There were people making discussions as to how they were supposedly anti black and deemed them as terrible humans only for it to later be revealed that they had been in the process of donating even before they spoke up. And no I'm not talking about those who were rightfully disappointed or frustrated at their silence) - Kinda sad how speaking up about racial discrimination is considered controversial tbh but I guess that's reality.

[@RosinaMonis]

Then they should speak up about Korean issues as well (And every other culture they've taken inspiration from).

[@danyliv2028]

Right!! Talking about the BLM mouvements doesn't proove anything. Jake Paul talked about it but he straight up steal all the credits of a smaller KZbinr fundraiser and claimed that he raised the money. So that shows that if people talk about it doesn't mean they care that much and if they don't talk about it doesn't mean they are racist.

[@paullu5139]

You're not applying the standards you're imposing on Korean idols with your celebrities back home. For one, LeBron James makes ALOT of money from endorsements outside of USA. One of his biggest sources of income is his contract with Nike. And guess where his shoes come from? The hands of overworked underpayed migrant workers in China. He is also getting paid with Chinese money through tv contracts as well. For a man that makes so much money from China and one can even say is trying to milk the Chinese basketball market. He has largely been silent about Hong Kong. In fact, he shot someone down for supporting the protest in Hong Kong. Does he even know or even care that the Chinese government is throwing Muslims into gulags? So which one of you are gonna start telling him he needs to speak up? Oh right no one. Because the West loves telling other people how we should live and think.

[@rayingrid8299]

Paul L I totally agree with you

[@AsiRo1127]

@@paullu5139 you're right, but what does that have to do with what she just said? Kpop is entirely inspired by black music and creators, if we didn't exist their (kpop) music would not be as popular and wouldn't even sound like it does now. Tbh you sound like an all lives matter person; we bring attention to one thing but you try to contradict us with something entirely different and off topic

[@2243cbl2]

BLM is not a political issue but rather a human rights issue all over the world. Black people are always treated as less then human and seeing all the Kpop and Khiphop idols speak out has me thinking I stanned the right people and groups. The others that were silent will not be receiving any support of any way from me.

[@angelicaveloz9793]

🙌🏼 amen sister

[@angelicaveloz9793]

Eric Kim do you even live on planet earth? Are you serious right now do you know the statistics of the amount of people dying due to racism?

[@AhgaseAlbey]

Eric Kim how ignorant can you be

[@TRUTHBEETOLDTVPEARLQUEEN33]

@@erickim6533 you're just sounding ignorant. Black people who are being killed by their own people are being unpoliced we want justice for the same thing against our own. But the system doesn't view it that way. We care for our own. They always view or show more negativity rather than positive things on air nor television. But they don't want to report that to the viewers because they don't want black people to rise up and come up against them. Do your research on black wallstreet in Tulsa Oklahoma and what black people had and what white people did

[@2243cbl2]

daja jones you had me at the first sentence, not wasting my time reading the rest or entertaining any back and forth arguments.

[@crowfeathers4025]

This is another reason why bts is so popular too. They actually speak about things people may be afraid to talk about.

[@tenzinjordan426]

They dont dare to speak on police brutality in hong kong. They dont

[@ndj9576]

@@tenzinjordan426 Because BTS music is not influence By Hongkong music. BTS speak up about BLM because their music is heavily inspired By Black Music and their style also taking inspiration from Black culture

[@carissmatic]

It's worth mentioning in your argument for kpop idols to support causes, *just why they should have specifically shown support or respect for Black America already*. (* edited after comment) If they are rappers, R&B singers, B-boys, beatboxers, krumpers etc then this is the time to make an offering of their solidarity for the communities where these art forms were birthed. David made a good point about kpop music bringing happiness to folks (I can't agree that they cure depression as that's not how that works but) and I'm sure a lot of korean artists felt that same happiness after hearing certain black artists too. isn't that how black culture was embraced by Koreans? Wasn't Seo Taeji inspired by the outspokenness of american rappers? Enough so to make the artform relatable to other Koreans? Aren't hip hop dance moves common when artists express themselves? I wouldn't say black americans are "owed" anything from South Korea, our own country owes us much already, but I personally think korean entertainment would be all the better if they acknowledge where some of their inspiration comes from. If individual idols don't do this, then for sure the big companies like SM, JYP etc should make a stand as they are the ones capitalizing the most from black artistic expression. Anyway, good vid guys.

[@sarahlouise4606]

that shouldn’t be the only reason though. black people dying not only in America but a lot of other countries IS enough reason for anyone to speak up. doesn’t matter if they are influenced by black music or not. even if they weren’t influenced, they should still speak up. this isn’t about “ok, you’re influenced by black music so in exchange you should talk about BLM”, they should talk about even if they aren’t influenced by black music at all, because this is about people, racism

[@carissmatic]

@@sarahlouise4606 I meant to imply that even outside of this current moment they (the industry) should have had more respect for black people because of the extent of their appropriation of black culture. Of course this is about racism but their basis for how they deal with black people in Korean society is already fucked up because they've taken so much from the culture to pad theirs but never told the history. Just because people should do don't mean they will. White Americans "should" take it upon themselves to study the full breadth of American history but they don't too. My comment was more an addendum to their already stated points about racism and companies doing more to make a statement and take a stand. I didn't mean to make people think I was trying to take racism out of the conversation. I just believe in nitpicking I guess.

[@meme101RE]

TheDreadPirate 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@spoorthireddy5812]

Sarah Louise see then it’s a cycle. If that’s the case,they should address every issue happening in the world,which is impossible. It’s a good thing if they do,but that’s like wishing for an ideal situation

[@nemia496]

you raise good points. Well written!

[@popipo44]

Because we know just how much Black culture has influenced the K Pop industry it's understandable that fans would want to know where their favourite idols/groups stand. Myself included. That being said,I don't condone pressuring them because we should also keep in mind that MOST of the agencies that manage these artists are very strict and would limit/screen what they (idols)post on their accounts so please don't pressure them. I understand that we're all very sensitive during this time but please keep in mind that during this time persons still have their own concerns/worries to deal with.

[@KahwahShutseh]

This movement is a stepping stone to change systemic racism. This happens to us Natives (Native "americans") all the time as well with the cops. At a higher percentage rate given our population than even African-americans (the percentages are close). But our voices in our own homeland are never heard. In fact in 2006 the cop who killed Floyd was involved in the shooting death of a Native man, they fired 40 rounds in 4 seconds at his stopped truck, killing him, destroying the truck and leaving the facade of a building with over 42 bullet holes that still remain today. Then lied saying he pulled a shotgun on them, the footage shows him only exiting his vehicle after they shot him up, he died bleeding out on the concrete. There's stories like this all throughout our 200+ Native Nations here in the United States, and we're never heard. That's why we stand in solidarity with this movement.✊🏽 If this movement is successful at the law making and societal level it may benefit Natives and all other minority groups as well.

[@mikapettigrew5675]

😳😳😳😳really?? Speak up ...never ne silent.we hear you

[@pleaseparkjimininmygarage-6212]

After BTS giving $1M, ARMY matched them with $1M in 23 hours

[@mine_e]

What happens to black people today can happen to Asians tomorrow. Of course, idols should support the BLM. just empathize..

[@Jenna1394]

And people don’t understand that. Black people have always fought for the civil rights of EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF RACE! If you pay attention to history, you will see that. When we won cases against the government for discrimination, this helped every other minority group, including white women.

[@sarahlouise4606]

they live in korea in their own little world, but if they could actually walk around other countries and talk to regular people (non fans), they would face the harsh reality which is prejudice/xenophobia against asians, but they don’t do that so they don’t care

[@fisticuffs12]

@@neonoires it's a bit more complicated than just "asians" , given what the japanese were doing to korea during that time. so i wouldn't expect koreans to necessarily relate to that. and equating asian americans with majority native populations doesn't really work that well overall, the dynamics are just too different

[@dentonkellyjr8095]

but i hope you dont force or pressure these artists by throwing racist accusations and calling them shit human beings, like let them live.

[@rfl8359]

Please don't assume that Asians or idols can't empathize with what's going on in America right now. It's frankly insulting for you to assume that the reason they haven't spoken out is because they can't empathize with the apparently oppressed.

[@huiwenlau8201]

I love what CL posted on her Instagram. It was eloquent, heartfelt and most of all impactful. Paying tribute to the artists that have been inspirations to her, acknowledging that kpop are inspired by black culture whether they acknowledge it or not.

[@keerthanaa5687]

so true

[@naylah6722]

Yup. Especially YG that is heavily influenced by black culture. Did anyone else speak on blm other than cl and taeyang?

[@annettetetteh8847]

@@naylah6722 yeah most of YGE artists get influence from black culture but never talk about what going except taeyang and am very disappointed in them

[@keziasunny7]

I have a feeling thats a major reason why Blackpink comeback is being postponed. They have some standing in America unlike Treasure

[@annettetetteh8847]

@@keziasunny7 so they have to speak up

[@hanibeeez]

These Kpop idols and their entrainment labels that did not speak about BLM movement chose the side of the oppressor. This is a human right issue not politics. Imagine not speaking about such an important cause because you don’t want your Korean fans to get mad. Literally wtf. When BTS tweeted about it, Ateez and Monsta x also tweeted about it a few minutes later. I believe they should speak about it considering how much the Kpop industry are benefiting from the black culture. They should use their platform and speak up. It’s not that hard.

[@namjoonsbonsai7354]

Their agencies might be against it so they don't get into controversies. At the end of the day, this isn't something they can do as they like. Yes, of course I want them to support the movement, which they have, but there wasn't a need to criticize BTS for not saying anything. So I agree that they should speak up but you shouldn't be blaming the artists

[@user-ys4he9re9h]

Dispatch be actin like toxic ex's smh🙄😂

[@izzywoods794]

❤️Danny really showed out this episode❤️. And to add my 2 cents; I’m not going to be angry at my idols for not saying anything to support BLM, but saying something against police brutality is something I’d expect from idols that claim to love their fans. I know they have business aspects to think about and aren’t required to risk their career. But fairly, I’m not required to keep supporting them. Silence feels like a slap in the face to be honest.

[@sarahlouise4606]

you say exactly what I feel! it’s like a slap on face! it’s like they’re saying “you don’t matter, we’re gonna stay quiet for our korean people and our pockets are gonna keep getting full”

[@michellevyanca5280]

Same I wouldn't be angry, but I would be disappointed to be completely honest. I understand some idols risk getting fired by their companies if they speak out about it , and of course they don't wanna lose their jobs. But other groups, especially bigger groups and artists with more stability and influence, their involvement matters so much in raising awareness especially for their Korean fans. I'm so glad bts spoke out about this because like Danny said, previous Korean fans who were confused about blm are so much more aware and that's amazing

[@heynana5460]

When BTS chose to speak out and use their platform to deliver important message to the people that is because they believe what really matters.. LIFE Whether the other groups will choose to do the same thing or not, it’s up to them..

[@oeeyouyong5569]

Wow Danny, you are my hero today , I love the way you said about the use of platform and the balls and to talk about humanity is not being involved in politics. Indeed it’s being human .

[@nihileyes]

I just want less restrictions on these idols, everything feels forced sometimes. I feel like that would take them to next level because us western stans love when our faves just speak their mind .

[@laurennn316]

I have literally never heard of Jim Jones until this scandal

[@Ariadne4]

me too

[@sanjana7774]

Lucky you

[@dramaqueen465]

I have but that was what I was telling my cousin who's a BTS fan, the other day. I understand that they didin't know who Jim Jones was or what he had done. He preached a lot about inclusivity and admonished racism so I'm sure some of his speeches are assumed to be by someone good, rather than a mass murderer. The story is famous in the US but younger people and people from Korea might have no idea what it's about. It was a mistake, next time they should double check on what they use in their songs but the hate BTS/Big Hit received was too much.

[@NiNA-cj1wd]

Laurennn same

[@akanshaborthakur3490]

Me too

[@alisiabakerjb]

I want to see the man's face who hid the camera. After everything that went down from Burning Sun scandal and Jung Joon Young's chat group, you would think that people would be more fearful, especially someone from KBS! It's crazy that Amazon sells these clocks, and they even have the smallest cam that weighs less than an ounce. Pretty sad that when you use a public restroom, that you need to check everywhere to make sure you are not being watched, but this also pertains to hotels/motels. This doesn't just happen in South Korea!

[@Nani-0613]

Exactly it was Burning Sun scandal Golden Phone JJY scandal Nth Scandal And now this , there is so much corruption going on in the world. Not just the government but also the politicians and in Hollywood everywhere There are sex cults Hidden cams Drugging and raping Sex rings Sex cults Predators Pedophilia It's so toxic and disgusting not to mention disappointing how many people are involved

[@whatreallymatters571]

Yep the cases are getting more and more prevalent. It's disgusting. The laws need to be heavier too, the punishment should be insure that others won't take invading people's privacy so easily.

[@Nani-0613]

@@whatreallymatters571 Exactly and what is really sad I read about how a man followed a girl who was leaving ehr house for school, he rapped and basically abused her so much that her body was messed up ( she can't have kids, no periods or anything) www.koreaboo.com/news/child-sex-offender-jo-doo-soons-face-revealed-now-hes-let-prison/ I wish they would change the laws , I mean women get raped and the perpetrator only gets like 3 months in prison what the hell

[@TheGreenRee]

CL said it best. The fact that kpop is HIGHLY influenced by other cultures, USA and especially African American music and culture...you would think they would want to speak on this or show support. As a black american female (who's been a huge kpop fan since SNSD and the original TVXQ), I honestly did not expect kpop artists to react to what's going on in the US....and I think its ok if they don't want to because I know how conservative S. Korea can be and they are a monoethnic country. But the artist that have spoken out or donated, whether its just for PR or because they actually care, I just feel like it speaks volumes for their public image/character and their company. This isn't really a political issue, its more of a human rights issue, and I doubt the US or any other country will ban these kpop artists from performing in said country for speaking on this issue. Lol David is just handing out "ignorance" excuses, as usual, though I do appreciate his opinion nonetheless.

[@CWEW07]

I do think that if Kpop artists want to be taken seriously, they have to step it up to talk about serious matters. I admire and respect BTS for stepping up and saying something (and donating). They have worked with African American artists, producers and dancers etc (it shows that they respect their co workers and their fans).. them doing that, everyone is talking about them and ARMY. Internationally, Kpop isn't being taken seriously. But, BTS has been taken seriously and they are not a trend.

[@veronicalyons9695]

Danny going IN on any subject is my favorite thing. 🤣🔥

[@user-yk5tc5mz8c]

i agree with danny, kpop can reach a whole new level if idols were able to speak freely about their views etc. and explore it in their music even. this would help create more individuality which is always more interesting.

[@susanajayi6423]

SM is extremely relevant in Asia... like 70% of their fans are Asian. I understand why they won’t speak up. But Blackpink.... makes more than half their money in the West. They should not be keeping quiet. Not at all. I’m mad and I really like them😭

[@anamikasharma2176]

How can they have said anything about blm when they are not allowed to work on their own songs , as danny said yes they are idols not politicians but it was huge matter that time and bp is influencial in west but they didn't had the courage to say about the matter since yg control them

[@susanajayi6423]

@@anamikasharma2176 “idols not politicians”... does not apply in the west. Koreans and Asians might be ok with their favs just making music and going but not the west. They want to feel like you understand them or relate to them in a way. That’s why BTS is so big. It’s because of the message of unity and self love. I understand the YG controlling them though. Me and all my friends hate YG😔

[@anamikasharma2176]

@@susanajayi6423 yes i understand you that is what i want to say i mean rules also say we can vote after age 18 that means you have brain to makes your own decisions but they didn't said anything about this matter makes them non influencial, i mean we can't blame wholly to yg girls have their own brain to say about this matters but they choose to go with their company because they wished to say not anything, so i don't find them innocent here , yes you join this companies at very young age when you don't know much about industry but you are adult now and you know what is right and what is wrong and you should know when to speak if you don't speak you really don't have respect for those fighting for it, this clearly shows that. I don't hate girls they are same as other humans who didn't said a word or spread their voice for BLM and that is what made me angry. Many people see you and get inspired so if you are huge you should know when to say as danny said they don't have balls or courage to say what is rights that makes me to non stan them more.

[@lerinorthcott]

no one's forcing kpop idols to speak out - but if they do, it says a lot about their character and greatly benefits their popularity. a lot of people on Twitter have started to listen to BTS out of respect and gratitude because of this.

[@JoobieLoobieSoobie]

ARMY matched the donation with another million within 23 hours after the announcement btw..

[@NiNA-cj1wd]

Czhil we're doubling it gys feel free to join us on Twitter

[@jktm7785]

I agree that speaking up about it would be great but forcing them to do so is not the right way. Spamming idols on instagram or twitter to "open their purses" and similar stuff just seems really rude to me. If they want to speak up or donate it should be their own choice and that would be meaningful and genuine. They shouldn't do it because they are forced to do so. Some fans should calm down and maybe trust their idols a little bit. So many people were throwing BTS under the bus for not talking about it. They did but there were still so many posts saying that "this doesn't mean anything if you don't spend your money or sign petitions." Now it's revealed that they donated 1M dollars. I mean, try to chill a bit with your accusations and spamming. Many US fans compare idols to how american celebrities show their activism and just expect them to do and be the same.

[@wildrice949]

Many American celebrities do not speak up either and this happens right in their own backyard. Therefore, fans should not expect idols to donate or speak up. If they don't like what their idols are doing in this matter, just stop supporting them. It's that easy. Don't harass and bully people into doing things they are not comfortable with.

[@nesswilliams6929]

Agree

[@faynuexunqi4042]

Amen!

[@hobiiandsprite1060]

Well said.

[@sarah-si3fn]

i agree. personally, i just distances myself from social media because my peers were also super pressuring. the activism had to be up to their standards, which was super pressuring. if if i wasn’t signing petitions or constantly speaking about the matter, i was immediately deciding to take the racist’s sides. and also, racism has been constant thru out history and still in many countries where it is worse for black people. why aren’t people talking about that all the time? me not talking about it on social media 24/7 doesn’t mean i’m racist or trying to take down the movement, we’re all tryna support the best we can.

[@Yeahisaidit_613]

New to your channel and wow… all the hard work you do! I’m a simple newish American BTS fan, but I enjoy and respect the hell out of K-pop, the entire industry is interesting from all the good to all the bad. I really really REALLY appreciate both sides you are providing, not is that only amazing, but in my eyes, makes you authentic and trustworthy as all get out. As a black BTS fan, I was not expecting, nor did I need them to say or do anything, so the fact that they did was phenomenal, and that we ARMY matched it is beyond words. That’s power. Personally, for me, I was not looking for support from other ethnicities, I was looking for white people to recognize they have been the long-standing benefactor of the systematic injustices towards black people. Other ethnicities have their struggles and burdens, who am I to say “fight with me” when they have been marginalized as well. Now, this comes from a single, personal, and therefore narrow viewpoint. I do see the big picture and agree that everyone needs to step up, but for me personally, I was looking elsewhere. Do I think that those who have a platform should speak out? Fo sho! Do I see those with a platform still being discriminated against in the US? Fo sho. Is BTS discriminated in America? Sadly, fo sho. Sometimes the comments about me being a BTS fan are shaded in bias and racist views and I fo sho don’t hear them played on mainstream radio. BLM is fighting to end police brutality towards black Americans. When we are healed, we can help heal others, but we do need to heal to begin with. I truly believe that this will open the door for other movements that are long long overdue. Others who are marginalized, whether that is in the united states, or in their own respective countries, hopefully, can access the support of humanity as BLM currently is. We all come from different views, motives, and ideas. We are all having a unique experience with this. What may be more impactful is we are all are taking a long hard look at those views, motives and ideas and making more conscious choices as well as being held accountable. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and perspectives. You have provided me things that did not occur to me and thank you for letting me share mine.

[@Jenna1394]

Also don’t forget that when Black people fight and create change, all other minorities do as well. That has been our history. In essence, supporting black people supports yourself.

[@tk9839]

Let's be honest here, I'm Asian but Black people are the most discriminated group in the world. There shouldn't be any disagreement about this...

[@fiorellageno3797]

I’m not sure currently which GOT7 member have donated but first one out the door to donate was Mark early on, then Yugyeom, then Jackson. So at least Got7 members have spoken out. Don’t know about JYPE, but at least they have not stopped them.

[@CandyCane23049]

Jae of Day6 also donated, he was the first person from JYPE to do so.

[@keziasunny7]

Yes. they did personally out of the group and company. If you involve the group & company it becomes complex.

[@karineleandro321]

When you were talking about Idols having to talk more about all these issues to be relevant and be the next Seo Taiji, I was thinking about BTS and why they are so relevant/loved and it is basically because they do talk about it. Sometimes not directly by making a statement as they did with the BLM movement but including it on their song or making songs about it. That is one of the many things I love about them, that they "have the balls" to call out injustice, social norms/hierarchy etc... Songs like Dope, silver spoon etc....

[@bulletproofdiamondwinstar9470]

Speaking of that, I'm actually surprised SVT have 3 members with INFJ advocate personality types while BTS have none. Examples of famous INFJ people are Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela. SVT don't have too much socially conscious music though. BTS have some similar personality types to INFJ in the diplomat group, along with SVT.

[@michellevyanca5280]

Yup what you said is called influence. Even suga talked about it. He said that they don't directly help anyone, but through their message and music , they are INFLUENCING people and that's just so powerful

[@namjoonsbonsai7354]

I do agree a lot

[@yasatt4825]

@MaeB Yes, they have and still do advocate these things and there was no doubt in my mind that they would bring awareness to the blm movement as well, which they also did - their words and actions even made other groups open their eyes and they helped more then many western artists both by speaking out and donating such a huge sum which gave armys the kick to also donate as one huge unified whole (not to mention that so many of us had already done so prior and spread the word because that's what BTS has always encouraged us to do through their music and actions - the only new thing was that a organisation was formed which was now tracking the donations and getting the money together under the name of all of ARMY). BTS has since they stepped onto the stage done more than most other Kpop artists and shown themselves to be humble and outspoken people about all kinds of issues, therefore none of these criticisms applies to them anyways - they are present in the western industry because they make music with socially aware and political messages and intentions while most of the rest of Kpop doesn't so let's discuss those people when speaking about what artists need to use their platform for, BTS are far from quite and are indeed responsive to real life issues.

[@katshik2282]

Sex is great and all but watching a man caring and talking about about taking down systematic racsim!!!!!🤤

[@dmblake4]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@IsabelLopez-pl7cs]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jocelyn9744]

Your drean husband most likely is someone with a noble heart that takes moral values that you share very seriously!

[@whatreallymatters571]

I mean doesn't it just make you feel all warm inside? It's so attractive.😄😄

[@katshik2282]

@@jocelyn9744 I guess so😌

[@petrichor499]

After watching this, I wonder why people are always cancelling Danny. He is very smart and speaks his mind.

[@DramaQueenBiz]

Im so torn about kpop artists getting involved in geopolitics. I agree that they have a certain power that can persuade their fans, but i also have been looking to kpop as an escape from the world...

[@mmmthemmmer]

Them not saying anything that could be considered even slightly ""controversial"" makes them seem less human and relatable

[@justagirl6380]

Everything Danny said starting at 23:13 is SO TRUE. I think Kpop needs to stop living in lala land and it will be more respected worldwide

[@ldbartsch]

I always appreciate you guys talking about these things in an authentic way. We won't always agree but the discussion is what is important.

[@lobsangdrema1067]

This was a very very insightful episode! Fav video so far..

[@user-rn1jx1ww7r]

I don't think kpop idols NEED to speak about something because they're forced to but because they want and they believe in the cause. Their lack of support can also be a consequence of their strict contracts and agency. But I can't lie and say that,if they don't speak about these kind of topics,my support for their future activities will remain the same. In my opinion, they should also be able to talk about Korea's problems. There's this idea that American problems(I know racism doesn't take place only in the us,but the protests started there) are global and everyone should talk about them. I didn't see any american talk about the nth room news

[@alphoacastle9849]

Because they didnt know, in France ( Europe ) I knew thanks to yt. I talk about it to raise awareness but korea hasn't found these boys ( or are faking, corruption and everything ). But true we should have talked about it. Korea knows like everybody knows what happened or almost. Because it's about humanity problems not just China and Korea problems.

[@not_creative_enough]

I agree with you. Every year thousands of immigrants from africa die in the mediterrean trying to arrive in Europe but no one really talks about this problem and no one starts protests around the world for that

[@marlene9455]

But it’s not an American problem. Black people face the same issues in every country.

[@sarahlouise4606]

This is not about companies. BTS talked about it but TXT didn’t, they are from the same company: Big hit. Red Velvet Seulgi and NCT Johnny talked about it but their group’s colleagues didn’t and they are from the same company: SM. At the end of the day, we need to realize maybe those idols just don’t care or aren’t educated enough, it’s really sad but it’s reality. Also the BLM movement is NOT an American issue, just because George Floyd’s death was what sparked that, DOESNT mean it’s an American issue, racism happens EVERYDAY, in my country black people are murder EVERY HOUR, do you understand? Not 1 everyday, it’s EVERY HOUR of every day. And racism happens in Korea and A LOT too, they need to talk about it. Period.

[@Anne3097]

@@marlene9455 true in certain degree but in a lot of parts of the world is not as severe as america and not all countries have a goverment/police that fucked up. So yeah, although I feel for everyone in the US right now, it is true, America does tend to act like their problems are everyones problems and don't really seem to care much for what goes on in the rest of the world ...

[@keamabuza858]

The whole time I was this, I kept on clapping my hands for Danny. Go in Danny!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@sallywakasugi872]

Thank you, editors! Loved the opera music thrown in over their bickering. 👍

[@persona8208]

I think Bighit's tweet on BLM also counters the arguement the haters come up with that it's always Bighit who apologizes not the Artist. I am happy to see that it's also Bighit and the whole group who support BLM, not an individual, without leaving a chance of saying that "it was Artist's personal opinion", if anything goes wrong. It's the freaking company who supported the movement

[@mine_e]

Idols are criticized whether they talk about BLM or not. Some of netizens are crazy.

[@katie5920]

It's almost like different people have different opinions...

[@jessicamarie6448]

And that’s why they should talk, Korea should realise that it’s okay to have different opinions and it’s okay to be against racism lol

[@sarahlouise4606]

BRIA exactly, that made me realize most of the idols are shitty people

[@yasminekabongo7671]

@@queenii well if they talk because they were forced people will say: you didn't donate so that doesn't count or you're not speaking for us you can keep your fake sympathy to yourself, etc...

[@sugaliciouschimchim4190]

In conclusion, BTS IS THE MOST RELEVANT artist of the century cz they have those freakin' BALLS!!

[@ayushithakur9059]

The real question is why speaking for human rights should get backlash and why should that backlash terrify you from speaking up

[@circusriddle]

Really great points. I always appreciate the different perspectives from you both.

[@joojoo5732]

It’s actually so sad how kpop artists have to silenced mostly bc of the companies. Look at the difference between American artists and kpop artists.

[@anjakostic5660]

I'm just sitting here like "it's okey, you're both right. *pats on the back*"

[@TheCourtneydav]

So many good comments made, thanks for sharing the situation in Korea with us