Super M DEBUT / GD Letter to Seungri? / Idol School EXPOSED [D-K News]

[@cassidy5944]

Meanwhile in America. Florida man arrested for trying to get an alligator drunk

[@amiray8856]

Your comment made my day

[@cheloworld4252]

Cassidy I live in Florida

[@onkelsven2650]

Best comment I've seen so far 😂😂

[@celebiglives9842]

Dwl

[@amethystangel23]

Leave my state alone. We're..complicated😂😂😂

[@ghazanjazz8689]

I'm only here for G Dragon's letter to Seungri

[@dangowad5368]

me to hahaha there aren't even any timestamps so i guess i'll just never find out hahahaha

[@umeinui]

@@dangowad5368 14:50 So you're not as disappointed as I was, there is no letter, a journalist failed lol.

[@ghadasarraj1174]

Same same

[@dangowad5368]

@@umeinui Lool thank you for letting me know

[@avip1987]

same

[@pinks3528]

I saw GD’s name and I clicked real fast lol

[@blackvelvet6165]

Same here😂

[@SleepyRue]

same i need to know

[@jiyongssmilewife]

Same

[@liyazali4371]

Same

[@RRisBackBitcheZz]

Ya know it

[@josimg9907]

I don't really think that we can consider superm successful, it's not like they brought in any new fans with jopping, they're all just fans of Exo Shinee or NCT that got together to make a "superfandom"

[@San-hv2qj]

Josi mg it takes time. The western music scene at this point is a Bts monopoly. No one can make a dent in it overnight no matter how popular they might be. They’ll start making progress with time so we really gotta wait till their next comeback

[@yzarcmw7794]

@@San-hv2qj problem is that they will also go to military eventually.

[@selissa2065]

@@yzarcmw7794 jin will be going too tho

[@karmasmatic5074]

Josi mg i think the point was less to create new fans and more to get nctzens, exo-ls, and shawols to support the groups they may not have cared about before. they’re creating sm stans

[@yzarcmw7794]

@@selissa2065 all of them will be going one by one eventually BTS and SuperM because they are koreans.

[@lynx3845]

The jopping mv was the biggest flex of sm’s bank acc

[@burningSunset78]

Bad Username how about donating 50k to Ellen for a feature on her show? 😂

[@sa5m225]

let me be real, Mark part save the song and the songs in their albums.

[@mo6816]

@@sa5m225 Did you not know SM means Saint Mark?

[@eyemare]

amanda that’s so true. The only reason I listen to jopping is for Mark’s part, mainly his second verse.

[@sa5m225]

@@mo6816 Holy Saint Mark thank you for saving this song.

[@monimuppet6132]

I feel like SuperM's whole set up is a stereotype of what a non-American thinks Americans want. Kinda like suggesting P.F. Chang's for dinner JUST because your friend is Asian. That's why everything from the song, lyrics and M/V comes off a little cringy - at least to me.

[@Kari_naim]

*panda express

[@ChatiseE]

They did the same thing with Nct's Regular English version. The Korean version was uplifting and motivational, but the English version was flexing.....

[@Miluiel01]

Yeah that is one of the reasons that I don’t like it

[@nghisexy99]

SuperM seems forced imo, like they tried TOO hard to be relevant

[@selissa2065]

@@nghisexy99 lmao who's TRYING, they're literally some of the best dancers/rappers/vocalists in the industry. they're always gonna be relevant, no matter what babe

[@ThePricklyash]

The “props” were treated inhumanly. This is a human’s rights issue and should be a labor law issue. No one deserves to be treated like that, especially children

[@GermAntibody]

hear, hear. Especially children.

[@anyone1111]

Yeah it shouldn’t be taken mildly. Whether or not they were “naive” it shouldn’t be okay with anyone.

[@isszzy1208]

Why does Danny look like Steve from Asian boss 👀👀👀👀👀👀

[@nouraa4659]

that glasses is definetly the main reason

[@DKDKTV]

We're actually relatives

[@kermyyy4134]

😂

[@introvertedrobot3134]

@@DKDKTV forreal?

[@ms.wilson6439]

That hair and black glasses

[@amandapassos47]

I cannot believe I'm about to said that but I'm 100% with Danny when it comes Super M. Seriously, this is the lyric of the debut song who will be the future of kpop?

[@isszzy1208]

Agreed... but Danny and I think alike so

[@Katara0403]

I agree with him. Imo I feel like the lyrics would be okay if they were debuting in Korea but in the US...no. To many of us, I think it would come off as try hard and cringy which we don't like. The beat was good but if they just changed the lyrics (except for the rap) it would be great. I think 'No Manners" would have been a great debut song because that's a song the American gp would really like.

[@daniaefe2192]

Ya lyrics are cringe and I love all of them so much , but those lyrics are are so bad lol

[@isszzy1208]

@@Katara0403 Noo the rap sucked... This is my issuse that I have with some k pop artists rapping ... talking loud doesnt mean its rapping... 😳

[@hayleylow]

LonelyPlanetAmongstTheStars agree!

[@SpaceMonkiiBob]

They say they're marketing to the american audience ,but really only the american kpop fans will be interested.

[@Mass-produced]

Preach. 🙌

[@sspiker]

Not true...this American Kpop fan isn't interested. Alot of us fans can smell marketing schemes miles away. Not worth my money.

[@anti_fascist]

@Josie B. SAME they're a bunch of REALLY talented people, there's no doubt in that. But the way SM is trying to push them, is fishy. Like being called "the avengers of kpop" lol and making it to ellen on the fifth day of their debut, i mean 🤷 They gotta understand that this is not the way it works.

[@acesbts1736]

@Josie B. Wow PREACH 👍🏻

[@victrola2007]

@@sspiker Agree! It's too contrived. The members actually deserve better.

[@kermyyy4134]

Wasnt Han Seohee a trainee? never seen her talent..I only hear about her when it's tea & mess.

[@tyriquefleming2432]

I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS 💋 ❤️

[@Infiniteb2st4ever]

Hi Kermyyy your videos are amazing ❤️

[@VinceTheCreatorr]

She used to upload dance covers to instagram

[@brokeyeol813]

She has a few videos of her singing and dancing on her instagram @hxxsxxhee she is good but a lot of people hate her and can’t admit that she is kinda talented... (I say this from a neutral side)

[@KNellyy]

☕

[@ha3945]

SM needs to realise that Super M needs time and many more albums to 'cement' themselves in the US music industry, and to prove to fans and the gp that they truly deserve all the titles they have been giving themselves, but seeing as members will start going to the military in a year or two, it's not going to happen, and neither will they be able to make the impact they want before that time.

[@cheloworld4252]

H A what does gp mean

[@ha3945]

@@cheloworld4252 general public... people other than kpop fans

[@Icannotbelieve693]

Well they are already selling out concerts and their merchandise sells out fast, so I guess they are doing okay.

[@muzikk67]

Honestly, I don't think they expect this group to be big. I think they're introducing the idea of using already known idols from different groups while certain members are away at the military. That way the members who are not at the military can still make some money instead of waiting around for other members to come back. I don't think SuperM will be the only group that SM will try this concept on or that the current members are permanent . Also, I think it's a way to cement NCT into the same league as the older groups which have much more brand recognition.

[@Icannotbelieve693]

muzikk67 I could see your point about doing this with other groups or the members not being permanent if it wasn’t for the fact that the whole idea was Capitol’s not SM’s. It does come at a very convenient time for Taemin and Kai and I have even wondered about them switching members out since according to some sources Baekhyun will have to enlist next year (although others say 2021), but looking at their singing and the things they have said, I can see them being able to perform while missing one member at a time with just a couple months off till one gets out after another has gone in. Everyone is really under estimating NCT’s popularity though, and while I do like their music EXO is the group I stan. I watched the news and read the news articles written about 127 on their tour and they did really well, people claiming that this is a group just to prop up NCT or make them more popular haven’t really looked at what they have done. They don’t need this to make them more popular, yes it may hasten it some but they do Not Need it. The facts about SuperM though is that while there are a lot against them for whatever reason, if you look at polls from neutral sites the ones for it far out weigh the ones against it and usually the ones that are meh about it out number those against it. I was also shocked at the concert tour with only 5 songs released but they have a very healthy amount of work that they have done as solos or pairs that they can do, plus Baekhyun has said that they have new songs that will be in the concerts that they haven’t released yet. They also sold out many of their concerts within the first day. These guys in this group are very nice, talented, hard working, not to mention very good looking and they know people are underestimating them if not wanting them to downright fail and they will work their butts of to make sure that doesn’t happen. People also have this inflated idea that this group was created to take another groups spot which is ridiculous! Maybe, if it wasn’t for the fact that people can like more than one group but they can and like Taemin has said they feel like there is plenty of room for more than one group and they aren’t trying to compete with anyone they just want to spread Kpop.

[@YourAnpanman]

I'm so proud of Jhope. Chicken Noodle Soup is lit. Didn't expect him to be featured haha

[@ms.wilson6439]

It was great. Not the chicks part though. Could've taken here out

[@kermyyy4134]

I prefer the original tbh...the beats hit harder!

[@ms.wilson6439]

@@kermyyy4134 but the extra dance moves J-HOPE has makes me love it

[@erisotunsa442]

I liked the music video

[@kenadalu]

​@@ms.wilson6439 I really liked Becky G's part and many Hispanic people found it cool too, it's nice having a Latin-American in JHope's music, that way Latin people feels represented, that's just my opinion tho :D

[@jeonkhargosh1213]

Just gonna put this here ''if koreans learn English and debut in America... They are just Asians debuting in the US...its not kpop''- Hitman bang . My reaction would be the same.. English group songs is something already wat Hollywood have.... We love kpop industry for its uniqueness (the comebacks, the shows, the lovely language, when they put traditional spunds in their music, the respectful culture in the industry etcetc...

[@anaporto7390]

Hitman Bang should mind his own business!

[@bell-ir7xs]

@@anaporto7390 he said this years ago, not in 2019. So im confused??

[@bell-ir7xs]

@cutie08 Don't think so. The song is 90% in english and they DEBUTED in america, not korea. Where is the kpop in that?

[@bell-ir7xs]

@cutie08 I mean sure but it doesnt change the fact that they're straying far away from what drew a lot of us to kpop in the first place. its kinda sad...

[@sylviachen9184]

It's just one song with English. The rest of the album is in Korean lol

[@curatedconnection6334]

David: What's the future? Danny: BTS Where's the lie? 😂 Tbh, I felt like David played safe with his comments on that SuperM news.

[@jonnamesa5058]

Curated Connection t yes tbh, im getting tired of david always playing the “good guy” 🤔🤦🏻‍♀️

[@nishatnafa988]

@@jonnamesa5058 But sometimes it's important to play safe .😊😊 But Danny was true af😂😂😂

[@minnievenkat]

Did he say they are anti bts! What a weird stand? Why make it?

[@nishatnafa988]

@@minnievenkat what do you mean??

[@abbyl4621]

SM has thrown so much money at superm. That mv... Arena tour... Overseas promotions... And I've gotten ads of the jopping mv everywhere. It's crazy

[@dolilubis5507]

Its capitol money not sm

[@yzarcmw7794]

But i don't really hear about them that much yet. Fans should trend them more. I only saw 1 trend about them for like 35k.

[@dancingwithbluefire5826]

And the money they donated at Ellen's show. Meanwhile BTS will just post in their twitter to promote their new upcoming album and it will spread in the whole universe. They've been doing that since 2013 and nothings change they are still humble as ever 😂😂

[@zoeappels2918]

cutie08 are they going to do a European tour to? Or only America?

[@dancingwithbluefire5826]

@@weareoneexo-l9653 SM Ent forcing Super M to enter in western, they are throwing millions to promote them but SM Ent. didnt understand that Bighit didnt promote BTS in western instead its the Army who bring them on where they are now. It cant be forced.

[@honeyyeekies7810]

And meanwhile let’s take a moment, appreciate and congratulate J-hope for his successes ! he is now the youngest and only male korean soloist after psy to debut on Billboard Hot100, UK charts also has debut on Billboard Hot200 too !! he is so much talented and dedicated and i’m heartily so happy for him 🔥🌹😘👏🏻

[@jclover3344]

The lyrics to "jopping" are kinda lame, almost cringy. I don't think that will bother the American audience too much but there's going to be other obstacles to their success in the US, mainly having to do with authenticity. They feel way over-produced, from music ,to performance, to lyrics, to interviews... I could be wrong.

[@lilyduck4538]

Totally agree. I should have watched it first without captions, then maybe I could have enjoyed it but the lyrics were stupid in my opinion... Ruined the song for me

[@blindingeclipse22]

You're right lyrics dont need to be deep but if the lyrics seems cheesey or fake (best way to describe is trying to come off cooler than you are) that's a headshot and this cringe song basically ended these mens whole career in America lol joking but also kinda not. Its really bad.

[@ferMADify]

@Blaaqphoenix I haven't heard jopping yet but I believe you 😂 mumble rap is one of the worst shit ever 😂

[@isszzy1208]

You are not this is why k pop took so long to come very popular in the states America thought of it as cookie cutter music untill BTS

[@isszzy1208]

@Blaaqphoenix Jopping sucks ass...

[@RAZBRY]

Danny is probably the most relatable dude on the internet lol

[@daniaefe2192]

Man I usually dont agree with Danny but I couldn't agree more the lyrice are so cringey it's hard to like the song , like even I can flex better then that lol

[@Chellz801]

dania efe “flex” 😂 sure Jan

[@anti_fascist]

Tbh Mark's rapping part saved the song from completely drowning

[@thesea7965]

What you mean by "flex"?

[@daniaefe2192]

@@thesea7965 it means show of , it's a slang term

[@izzywoods794]

Jopping is an inside joke with my friends and I now😂

[@silver-nf4zc]

I agree with Danny. The lyrics of jopping is cringey 😂

[@zenchii9756]

silver 97 You are not alone. 😂

[@Aussiedoll1]

It’s still catchy AF

[@JennLove89]

Da point is dat it’s catchy n they’re here to make 💰 💰 💰

[@fierfie1650]

Shut up

[@donuttt2636]

but it's POPPING

[@kelsey3576]

The whole concept of superm seems super ingenuine and unnatural to me. The group is just a ploy for money for SM and it honestly makes me uncomfortable thinking about it.

[@kira2aiko3]

you know is not first time sm did that you all act like is the first time he put different group together in the past.

[@katswo]

Someone finally said it.

[@krystalrayne5235]

Because they're not in the business for money?! Are you people for real?😂😂This entire industry is for making money.

[@sekar_exe]

I know all kpop industry shits are for making money but they just make it so obvious lol. I do love and support the members tho.

[@ildog9079]

Literally every decision a company makes is a ploy for money. That's how business is supposed to work?

[@iouww]

Danny is SO DONE with jopping😂

[@AlyssaDiCesare]

Honestly, Jopping is just a new NCT sub-unit. It's an NCT song featuring some EXO members and Taemin. Couldn't SM come up with a new sound and theme for this?

[@taketwo9623]

I don't think superm is the best I mean are they better than NCT , EXO or SHINEE!! Nope they are not

[@D3bs1109]

Big Hit actually talk about fans being able having a concert experience at home by livestream. So this is really the future, Kpop is going to be using technology more and more.

[@cheloworld4252]

D3bS ACDM they are broadcasting the Saudi Arabia concert actually

[@dancingwithbluefire5826]

You dont understand. Plenty of us can't attend in a live concert and we want to see them live even in our mobile phones. Why are you butthurt anyway? No ones forcing you to watch their concert at home anyways.

[@D3bs1109]

Dancingwith Blue Fire Tf are you talking about?! Who is butthurt??!! I just point out that Big Hit did actually talk about using technology for fans in their conference and I’m pretty happy about that so what the fuck are you talking about??!!! 😒

[@joshikadevi7237]

@@Gepiete12 oh..you're here again with that standard mouth of yours. Eww..

[@Brbljivica123]

GDs letter to Seungri? You mean GDs latest instagram post? That would be far fetched ?

[@treesap8911]

Oof I thought he wrote an actual letter to him

[@jenniekim6974]

Medo & Me exactly!

[@vinibbb3376]

It's called clickbait

[@aliineth]

I thought GD was writing a good bye letter to the fans and Entertainment industry :(

[@veteranfanaccount.8333]

@@aliineth no please

[@Umla80]

Im with Danny about SuperM. I personally had high hopes given the talent gathered in the group and the hype SM built around them. Cool and dazzling packaging with no substance is my feeling about Jopping so i feel disappointed... I had hoped for more considering what they want to achieve. Since you are reporting on crappy articles you could have mentioned the trashy article THR did about BTS (that "reporter" really had it in for BTS and the whole Kpop industry from the start). Thank you for the Tea!

[@Umla80]

@cutie08 well i guess thats for the better so music can be more diverse :) different tastes and different sounds. Im glad you liked it though! Im no music expert it just wasnt what i had hoped for but thats ok :)

[@zoeappels2918]

I expected way more because of all the extra promotions, interviews and ads .... I was looking forward to it but I’m kind of dissapointed, they couldn’t even beat a rookie record. I hope it wil get better in the future and good luck to SuperM in the US.

[@peace_wise2809]

@@zoeappels2918 I somehow felt the exposure was too hastened. Getting a debut then promoting abroad right away then Ellen show and now concert. It's too fast before letting people absorb them.

[@kyu6780]

sucks that trainees have to be extra careful with how they present themselves not only to public but also everyone around them (not new) thought they used to promo it as "ooh finding dreams lalala" when in reality it's all set (we all been knew but sucks when it's actually confirmed) ah i feel so bad for them and i definitely agree with david

[@hanibeeez]

Danny went from looking like Danny to Japanese bald guy to Steve from Asian boss

[@ms.wilson6439]

J-HOPE was HOT in that video

[@cieloz7574]

YAAAAAZ!

[@미아김장]

YESS

[@zawmichristina1730]

Yes

[@SappuAdi]

My man💜❤👄

[@Gepiete12]

J horse clapped Niggaboo

[@gauravnare5284]

I agreed ,they need to get some lyrics

[@douseenow]

Cringe. It was cringe. For American general public? Cringe

[@Kari_naim]

I get that you don't really like Jopping. I do agree that this song didn't do it's purpose of trying to market itself to the US audience. I don't find the song cringe. I get that you have an opinion, but no need to be so aggressive.

[@veeinh]

Kari Min cringe

[@yipyeee2]

9:05 This is gonna be the first time I disagree with David and be the same side as Danny, SM need to do better in naming and lyrics! I always read SuperM as Sperm! 😣 The lyrics are cringy af too.

[@faithcarponelli]

The lyrics being mindless and only a flex is due to the fact that it's catered to the US market, not because they think it's 'typical KPop'

[@RinUesu1]

Jopping isn't catered to Americans no matter how SM or Superm say that it is. As hard as it seems we Americans are tired of the flexing of money, cars, sex, and girls of the rapper/singer. We want something different than that. As hard as it is to grasp we like deep meaningful things. It's a stereotypical thing to assume we as a whole, think that way. The only thing we would honestly like about this is the dancing and that's it, but that can't last forever when superm wasn't designed for just dancing.

[@faithcarponelli]

@@RinUesu1 I never said Americans all just enjoy mindless music. Obviously, just like anywhere else, there are lots of people that want other things as well. But SuperM is targeting the American market and is going for a broad audience and therefore they go for stereotypes. Even if there are lots of Americans that prefer deep lyrics there's no denying that this "flexing" is very prevalent in the charts. And so Lee Soo-Man went with it. And yes, they are indeed designed for dancing, given the fact that the group is full of some of the best dancers SM has to offer, with only one "main vocal", instead of the usual several vocals/some dancers. Now all that doesn't mean that SuperM can't show another side as well and hopefully they'll do, but this debut was 110% going for all the stereotypes they could get, to start with a bang.

[@RinUesu1]

@@faithcarponelli I said superm wasn't designed JUST for dancing. Yes, I know they have go dancers that's not what I'm getting at. People can like the dancing, but in that way that appeal won't last long. As for the stereotypes they have to get over the lyrics let alone the title. Not saying that they can't but it's gonna be hard on them. As well as having concerts already. The only people who are gonna go are the already fans of the members, because America, non fans weren't looking out for superm. Technically they are a new group in the eyes of America and them having a concert right after their first mini album America is gonna be a little confused.

[@faithcarponelli]

@@RinUesu1 Yeah, I absolutely agree. They won't last if their current orientation will be the only thing they have to offer. They have the potential and it will be interesting to see how SM decides to continue with SuperM

[@RinUesu1]

@@faithcarponelli yeah, hopefully they do better next time around if there is. The first impression are the most important part, so... yeah.😕

[@jinjuuuie]

Shinee and EXO are already pretty well known within North America and NCT has been touring and making appearances on various talk shows! I honestly don't think it's as hard to make it in America has everyone seems to think it is these days.. there's a pretty big market for kpop here now

[@jazzingirl]

there are trying to push into mainstream market. like getting played on radios.

[@bell-ir7xs]

I think it is that hard. You heard the music expert. I think you're underestimating what it means to "make it" here. What you're seeing is SM's money being thrown around atm, not the actual numbers and sales, bc they're not that good.

[@jamesrawlins735]

@@bell-ir7xs Total truth. Even the huge monster success of BTS hasn't really hit mainstream radio - you don't often hear BTS songs - the reality is songs not in English just don't get played on American mainstream media. Even when the so-called Latin wave of the 90s hit, the only reason those artists got radio play is because they released English language songs - Shakira and Selena did the same thing. But with Kpop getting a lot more acceptance these days and music not as dependent on mainstream radio, maybe change will come - just ask CL and Jay Park

[@bell-ir7xs]

@@jamesrawlins735 yeah, and I hope it changes! I would love to see different languages being played on the radio more :)

[@estherfanai8866]

Consistency.

[@stillfangirlingtoday1468]

It could still be a post about Seungri. But somehow the first time I saw his post, I thought it could be him reflecting about his own career, so it got me really anxious since then. It could also be a message to VIPs? It could be a foreshadowing of his retirement? Maybe his undercover romance ended? Maybe it was nothing at all. I hope he comes back as the GD we know and love despite all the controversy.

[@veeinh]

Maia TC if you get anxious about a celebrity posting on their Instagram then you need to get a life

[@MiuXiu]

Maia TC yeah it really could have been anything. It could have just been a photo he saw and liked and simply posted. I don’t think anyone will really know apart from him and people close to him.

[@amy_ambrosio]

@@veeinh lol, chill. We can feel something for a certain figure and still being people with good emotional health, if the case were severe then the case would be different

[@coldcalculatingxxx4331]

@Maia TC have you watch motte documentary? It was taken from that gd was walking on the rain while he voice over the line with the world will not end

[@TOM-xy4bb]

i heard he posted the exact pics before enlisting and now he did it again before discharging so chill no big of a deal just enjoy his sister's wedding photos hehe

[@-EchoesIntoEternity-]

SM: a north america arena tour with only 6 tracks, lets do it! YG: c'mon guys, you need at least 9 tracks 🤦‍♂️

[@kentai1277]

the other members have solo songs tho

[@subashnethaji3789]

Lol

[@jannsinner4456]

😂😂😂😂

[@anjsan33san48]

So true

[@anaporto7390]

Baekhyun said that they will add new songs.

[@VenusAD]

I enjoy Jopping. It's a fun banger, but "I Can't Stand the Rain" should've been the lead single for SuperM's debut. It's WAY more interesting and the drum beat just pulls you right into it. I do think SuperM will be successful, in the fact that they'll get attention with enough show appearances and their concerts will probably sell well. But yeah, if Bangtan is the litmus (which they SHOULD NOT BE - that's like making the Beatles back in the 60s the litmus for pop groups), they likely won't reach that, at least not with the way they're being presented now. That all being said, I enjoyed the heck out of their EP and have had some of those songs on repeat. They're just going to need to stand out more if American mainstream markets are to take notice.

[@amiray8856]

Honestly I feel like super car was even better (in my oppenion) the rap is so good the vocals were soothing and teayong signing (rip my wig) even tho I like jopping it wasn't the best title track .

[@ammers84]

The more I listen to Jopping, the more I like it. It is a hype song, but not something i would listen to every day. The other songs on the album are better and seem more like all their styles. Jopping is of course the song that went with their "Avengers of kpop" theme.

[@elliekaep]

I totally agree I Can’t Stand the Rain or Too Fast should have been the single they are way better than Jopping.

[@d..b5490]

I have the impression that the average american would find super m a bit more interesting than bangtan in terms of tv show appearances? I'm under the impression that they're more charismatic as people, as a group they're a bit more talkative and stand out as individuals a little more

[@D3bs1109]

SuperM is a performance focus group so Jopping or even Super Car are better as title track to show the performance aspect better. But since Jopping has all the members and it’s a complex song with many beats drop, it was the better choice.

[@ILmylife108]

BTS has a natural charisma, a fantastic stage presence, and a star quality that cannot be manufactured, produced, or duplicated. That won't stop companies looking to cash in from trying. 💜

[@yukikanegawa7470]

I think jopping would've been better if they said "cause when we jumping and popping we bopping" it would've made more sense.

[@dream_candy2173]

yuki kanegawa I agree

[@joycekar1173]

yuki kanegawa “cuz when we jumping and popping we snapping”(shout out to chungha)

[@nanananana8594]

lol It make sense and I'm laughing so much

[@mj03_]

I definitely agree with that anonymous music expert. I'm looking forward to Super M in the future but I'm also a little confused as to how this whole thing ended up happening in first place. Like, were they just thrown together or was this actually planned out?

[@isszzy1208]

Planned out... SM wants to take over the western world... I mean they never did a concert in South Korea

[@tomoroxs1012]

Capitol Records requested it lol

[@isszzy1208]

@@tomoroxs1012 stupid move ... There's no evolution to their music This is just an American company making money off a tended... I agree with the American music expert

[@tomoroxs1012]

@@isszzy1208 I mean what do you expect, all labels make music to make money it's a business lol and the music itself is really interesting, it combines elements of hard rock and deep bass trap which isn't common, people are just focused on the wrong things. I think the expert underestimated how catchy it is too and how that just helps music spread, i have friends who aren't even kpop fans who like the songs. they're good and fun to listen to which is all that really matters for music in the end

[@isszzy1208]

@@tomoroxs1012 what the song sucks

[@brittanynorris9210]

So i bought tickets to see SuperM in concert in November! I jumped at the opportunity because when NCT performed the tickets were crazy priced and hard to get, now I can see my bias live plus Taemin! I am super excited! I thought the song was pretty decent and the performance was amazing so I am not mad at their debut!

[@jennyv2716]

I agree

[@loursfloral5409]

10:20 "What do you think the futur is?" "BTS" :D Me too, they have such a great impact on people's lives.

[@Mariajose-qt5ey]

You know something, there was a time when people used to said that kpop groups wouldn't be able to break into the american market and, guess what, BTS did. So for me is very annoying when people said that SuperM or any other kpop group for that matter can't reach the levels of succes in the american market like BTS. That's just disrespectful and also is underappreciated their hard work. Is like we are not even given them the oportunity to try it. I'm not an Army, but i respect and value BTS succes, so i think people who isn't eather a Exo-l, Shawol or a NCTzen can do same for SuperM. Like Chen said "there is NOT competition in music".

[@gliderose5909]

I think the reason why ppl say superM wont succeed is bc ppl/fans (some) just dont like the idea of making this kind of grp, taking the most popular member of big grps to make one grp, while the respective grp has to delay the cb though the grp still in high demand and doing great. Like of course superm have big potential to break into american market, but ppl are in denial bc they just dont like those idea. ppl said that bts would fail back then is also bc of denial. So, we'll see, if they success, they will success anyway no matter what ppl say.

[@van182]

Maria jose Super M is being disrespectful by stating during interviews that they are going to raise the bar in k-pop. The bar was never low. BTS epitomized respect, humility and talent. That's how they became globally successful. They opened many doors; I hope Super M remember that.

[@Mariajose-qt5ey]

@@van182 Just because SuperM said they want to raise up the bar for Kpop means they are saying the bar is low. In fact, they know how high the bar is and they want to surpass it and, there is nothing wrong with that. Also, SuperM is humble, honest, respectful and hardworkers like any other Kpop group, including BTS, who said they weren't? And remember, before BTS there were BIGBANG, Super Junior, TVXQ, SHINee, 2PM, Infinite, Teen Top, U-KISS, F.T. Island and a whole 2nd generation of Kpop who paved the way and open many doors for the 3nd generation of Kpop. Without the 1st generation the 2nd generation wouldn't happen and, without the 2nd generation the 3nd generation wouldn't happen. I hope FANS like you never forget that.

[@deadbutterfly6163]

I just hope Big Bang will continue as 4 even tho Jiyong said to seungri: "If something bad happens, it will be the end for Bigbang" before he enlisted. I'm still hoping.

[@leabaden5935]

Same 🙏

[@silversaber8762]

He had said that as a joke to Sengri's antics..he wasn't serious..

[@stephyamegnido8119]

KeysHOE Yeah he wasn’t serious. I’m just mad that if Bigbang really end it will be the faults of the hypocrisy of a lot of VIPs and their hate towards Seungri.

[@Ladhetiju]

@@stephyamegnido8119 exactly

[@losttso]

i wish SM would have put an effort in finding a good lyricist at the least to get started with their so called future thing.. totally disappointed..Jopping!?? seriously???!! respect the art for christ sake..!

[@maymayplump3326]

I know some of you are saying that "jopping" is gd, "am I the only one who likes it?" sort of stuff, no offense it's starting to grow on me as well, but I'll still hv to admit that I'm quite disappointed at how all these played out especially after the ambitious debut announcement. The fact that the listeners' opinions are so divided on the debut announcement and the song itself (even within the sm fans whom superm are targeting at) is already a straight up slap on their unrealistic expectations. You hv to be at bts level and hv that reputation to live out the bold statement of "avengers of kpop". You hv to earn it first to make people comfortable in looking up to you that way, not just suddenly pops up and branding yourself in such a statement. SM doing it is like a random stranger telling you how gd or how smart they are in order to gain your attention and affection but that's not gonna work. It's just being annoying. Also, I'm not sure if they'd know that this move is gonna irritate a lot of fans, especially the armies(which make up a great share of the US kpop consumers lol). They should try to lure them in not shut them out, although it might not be easy. I really hope they didn't raise our expectations so high just to let us down, it's damaging to the superm members. The company tried too hard. Forcing through is never the way honey.

[@kkokowaahclw1774]

Completely agree with you

[@skysaber23]

i think mark's trailer is better than the mv itself. that should be mark's solo song.. lol

[@joycekar1173]

May May Plump I have a question as to why they have to be on bts level to call themselves the Avengers of kpop?

[@maymayplump3326]

@@skysaber23 Although I didn't watch the trailers, Mark's rap part is the best thing in the song. I kept repeating it.

[@patriciaalfiona7542]

I listened to jopping recently. Not bad, but not what i quite expected. Like really the beat is dope, but i tought there will be like a grand storyline or what. Your opinion is good 👍🏼 very logical

[@deeilor5243]

If successful career standard is BTS then No. Of course not. ~tea

[@zamahsays7888]

Indeed ☕☕

[@riyamittal9420]

My favourite line.

[@doritosareyammy]

its sad bc no one has a chance bc of them :'( too iconic

[@nothingokay5788]

Periodt no fucking tampon

[@AnaledEel]

An American promoter involved with Super M seems to think he’s got “the next BTS,” but Super M can’t be, and won’t be, the next BTS. BTS is the only BTS. I can’t speak for K-pop fans outside of the United States, but American fans do not regard the groups or stars they love as interchangeable. The ticket prices are low. If they were coming to my city, which they are not, I would go see them, but I would drive ten hours to see BTS for three times that price.

[@rosieg6432]

And BTS is the only really respected kpop group.. and for the most part, it will take a long time for another kpop group to be hyped up to the extent of BTS. BTS’s success is organic, it can’t be manufactured,,, no matter how many popular members you put into the group or how much money a company invests

[@burningSunset78]

You stated perfectly how I feel :)

[@Mass-produced]

So true

[@hellolovelies7084]

Who said superm want to compete bts oh god i understand you love bts and is a crazy fan but why you saying they cant reach to that level. Hard work pays off and their hard work will lead them to the level where they belong let just see them shining dont mention bts oh god

[@hellolovelies7084]

Superm is only superm

[@6shivanijaiswal]

David: what’s the future? Danny: BTS 🤣 seriously I watch dkdktv for Danny’s comments only.

[@lasttofirst3335]

I mean I support Baekhyun and Kai and I'm a Taemin stan since forever but this whole SuperM thing is just too rush and forced, and I'm afraid that the history (what happened with Boa and SNSD) would repeat itself....

[@kkcamp02]

I agree it is too rushed.

[@snehalama7393]

@@kkcamp02 what happened to boa and snsd?

[@kkcamp02]

@@snehalama7393 SM has a history of trying to debut groups and artists in America with English songs. SNSD and BoA were both victims of this. It keeps failing becuz SM keeps doing they same thing over and over. When will they realize it ain't working.

[@snehalama7393]

@@kkcamp02 thank you for explaining..I feel bad for SuperM.. ☹️

[@ilyunoh8272]

they've both been to prison... crying

[@peestorage6110]

how do ppl even end up in prison maybe im just a pussy

[@karen-bl3wi]

@@peestorage6110 me too im scared of authorities

[@cai_ryn]

When the group name already sounds bad in English... their title song had to sound kinda dirty in relation to Korean 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

[@carmerreumetinyOnOadyOiceX]

Pipestream2 LMAO I SWEAR 🤣🤣🤣

[@samirara6248]

Jopping means fapping in my language. So i can never ever talk about that song 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@cai_ryn]

Dalia Xoxo SuperM > Superm > Sperm

[@nicoleshh]

Samira Ra loool so Danny was right?!?! That’s hilarious

[@iagreewithyou3478]

@@cai_ryn Yep. Just one letter away from disaster.

[@hanbytee3903]

Danny look so done like ‘If I’m going to get cancel for this I might as well say whatever I want to’ 😂

[@ThaVeeMusik]

David: what do you think the future is? Danny: um.. BTS! Danny: 'we make the future' A.K.A we're going to take over BTS when they go to the military. 😂😂😂💀 omg i died laughing!

[@yzarcmw7794]

Danny in real talk mode😅

[@yzarcmw7794]

@Hit That HateR both groups can dance. They specializes on that.

[@callum1391]

Hit That HateR 💀💀💀 no dancer from bts could even KEEP UP with taemin

[@Mimi-dn5es]

@@callum1391 i respect taemin but hoseok exists

[@yzarcmw7794]

@@callum1391 I agree. Taemin and my bias Jimin had a collab dance on stage and they were amazing though I can not deny Taemin's talent but I still prefer my Jimin and BTS :) that's just how it is. I support them more. it's just personal preference.

[@jannsinner4456]

When you get a jimin add and you cant just skip because he is everything😂

[@Someonefreshandclean]

the situation in Idol school is just so disgusting to me. I think we need to have more safe work environments and I disagree with Danny, it is not what they signed up for. most of them made a decision when they were underage to become an idol, so you cant even say that they signed up for everything or even understood everything that it means to become an idol. and if you add the debt that they have to pay back to the company into the equation, you can even say do they have a way out of this kind of life?

[@drew1944]

Like on jessica lee's vlog she stated that she didn't know that it was actually a reality show that has some eliminations

[@Mmmmmmmnnnnnmmmmmmm]

Who else was kinda disappointed in SuperMs debut? They pushed it way too much and SM kinda fcked up the promotion It’s good...but not as good as I expected

[@aurorag.a.2030]

TBH, its annoying that Super M keeps getting compared to BTS. BTS didn't immediately become successful in the US. They started becoming really big around 2017...like 4 years into their career. Super M, although they are successful in their respected groups, shouldn't be expected to INSTANTLY become as widely known as BTS. Give them time to come out with more albums and gain a bigger fandom. To me, although I ADORE BTS, i feel like their 'success' is mostly reflected on the fact that they are 'mainstream'. So most ppl who starts getting into kpop want to jump on that bandwagon. Because honestly, if it was because of how talented they are, they would have become HUGE earlier on. They've had better albums and songs in the past. I'm not saying their current music is bad AT ALL, but i do think their older stuff just slapped you in the face with greatness.

[@krystalrayne5235]

I absolutely agree with you. BTS' earlier music was waaaaay better than what they're putting out now. And everyone definitely is forgetting how long it took BTS to break into the American eye. The comparisons are idiotic. SuperM is being criticized for not hitting it out of the ballpark with this song but those criticizers are completely ignoring the fact that BTS didn't hit it either in the beginning.

[@tiongjieying3802]

Exactly! BTS got the fame mainly bcs they are the icon for now. Ppl follow trends and apparently, they are the trend for now. They are talented for sure but ppl know them just bcs everyone is talking about them

[@Bahnishikha_Das]

@@krystalrayne5235 but superM was created to have instant success... And the members aren't even rookies or something.. they were already there in kpop for 4-5 yrs(avg)... But compared to the experience of the members their debut song was just cringe

[@maylewis2421]

Yes, it did take time for BTS to get popular. I only knew about them and KPOP after I saw them on the AMAs. But to me I like all their music past and present. As they mature as a group and try different genres I still like the music a lot. But I love BTS not just for their music and dance but for their personalities, the way they treat the ARMY, the UN speech, and the fact that each member is unique and to me the total package. I think it will be hard for any other KPOP group to have that kind of success and following with just their music and performances alone. But I wish them luck and I hope they have success. It’s amazing that Someone my age (I have a 23 year old daughter) living in California can be such a big fan of KPOP now. But if it wasn’t for BTS I would not know about KPOP. I’m going to hope that all KPOP groups do well in America.

[@aurorag.a.2030]

@@Bahnishikha_Das well, to say that their song was cringe is a personal opinion. And I don't think they were expected to be an instant success, I'm sure they hoped but not expected. Although their respected groups have been around for years, them 7 put together is clearly a different sound and vibe. They clearly already had their current fandoms, but after their debut, the next step is to GAIN more fans. I feel like they've done really well so far. It's unfair that ppl are trying to measure their success with another group's accomplishments who happen to be the current fad.

[@madeinbusanjkjm]

"Journalists, just shut the fuck up." "Jopping ryhmes with fapping." -Danny was full of wisdom in this one.

[@safaa9654]

Random english is a trademark of Kpop songs. The video, choreo and the music are the most important thing here

[@rezzz_q409]

Flop

[@jinnie3208]

I know.. Its just soo good. No need to hate them its just beautiful.

[@Kari_naim]

As a second gen ish Stan, I can agree

[@Kari_naim]

@@rezzz_q409 that's a nice name honey

[@nithikanagarigari8859]

David: what do you think the future is?? Danny: BTS Me: I'm dying laughing 😂😂😂😂

[@odmaademberel1227]

I think gd’s msg was for v.i.p. He was telling us to not be afraid cause we already achieved so much and we’re connected forever.

[@lisac.5376]

Agree

[@basiltoast]

I hope so

[@404gram]

wow, that Korean journalist sound like another USA journalist who don't do research, use google translate and edit/correct her articles after being called about it. maybe the two should collab for global project.

[@arcpalace]

Woah I just realized something, literally when I saw the tour brochure pop up. "We Are The Future" is a H.O.T song. One of SM's first generation boy group in the late 90s (correct me if I'm wrong). It's a random thought but I wonder if it has something to do with it🤔

[@kellytran5017]

H.O.T is my first kpop and I love that song too but I don't think they are related.

[@Vickythepedia]

News 1: I don't care. I just hate her. News 2: I can't make up my mind if I like it or not. News 3: Disappointed but not surprised News 4: It's just sad. Well you kept saying it's like military but in the military you at least get to go to the doctor if you're not well... Edit: In the last part when you said that's what they singed up for I disagree, I don't think anyone in the right mind set will sing up for that.

[@nukitachan]

Good comment format! I am going to edit mine to day same format!!!

[@larifeyna]

I think that he still offended that he went to military 🙄 poor child

[@casieg.7040]

Are the contestants underage? Because if that's the case, then they're violating some child labor laws. And I'm pretty sure that the military doesn't allow underage people to join.

[@Vickythepedia]

@@casieg.7040 I didn't know much about them so I looked it up and found out 4 of the fromis_9 members where under age when the show aired.

[@casieg.7040]

@@Vickythepedia I pretty sure the show has some explaining to do since that's the case. Unless the contract explicitly expressed the harsh conditions that the contestants will be living in, they probably broke some law.

[@lunarnabi6972]

The funny thing is that Anonymous American Music expert is one side of the coin as far as music industry analysts over here go. Half of the industry analysts I've discussed things with (I'm a music business marketer) believe this debut is really forward-thinking and could potentially be very profitable and begin new trends in terms of the mass marketing partnership between SM & Capitol Records. And others have taken a similarly pessimistic view like the music expert featured here because it's not something that is very radio "friendly", but that may also be a positive since they want to distinguish themselves from typical kpop & American acts. We will just have to wait and see how everything pans out in the next few months because success doesn't happen overnight here. (i.e., Lizzo's 'Truth Hurts' hit #1 almost two years after its initial release) Honestly, the American music scene is currently in a weird slump, so maybe this debut can shake things up or not even make a dent. Only time will tell.

[@shawolcherry]

Thank you! Your comment will probably remain under appreciated because too many people who have no clue about exactly how the American Music industry works are commenting and/or comparing things to BTS and assuming what the "End Game" is for SuperM. Not even BTS was an overnight success here in the States so how can anyone say SuperM is already a failure or will not succeed? And why are so many so stuck on the word "Jopping"? (which is in the Urban Dictionary by the way) I hope the same people are reacting the same way about if floss or flossing is mentioned in a song. The lyrics are braggy like a lot of hip hop songs played on the radio, so while the song is definitely not my favorite on the mini album I understand why it was chosen as the title song. The other songs were either not flexin' enough or did not feature vocals from the whole group (i.e. Super Car). The marketing strategy and what's to come with SuperM won't be like BTS because THEY ARE NOT BTS AND AIN'T TRYING TO BE! The media reports before the debut leaked enough information for the public to understand what's really happening and it goes beyond the music industry. Sounded almost like a DreamCatcher x King's Raid kind of deal is happening but with Marvel/Disney. I mean do people seriously think SuperM can say the word "Avengers" and sample the Avengers theme song as part of their marketing and Disney will not come after them to sue or give a cease and desist order? Think about it! IF everything works out as planned they will indeed change the future of K-pop but just not in the way it seems a lot are thinking and pre-judging by. And I'm all in for the ride!

[@lunarnabi6972]

@@shawolcherry A lot of my colleagues have a similar viewpoint that you just displayed. Something new and fresh is beginning and if not a success maybe it can be the blueprint for something far more experimental/successful in the future. So, I am completely up for the ride as well!

[@sheenababy31]

​@@shawolcherry thank you for sharing your thoughts. I was very sad after reading people's comments here about Super M. Why can't they just be respectful towards them because he have been really working hard for this debut. I don't even see them mocking other debuts.

[@sheenababy31]

@@lunarnabi6972 thank you for sharing your thoughts. I was very sad after reading people's comments here about Super M. Why can't they just be respectful towards them because he have been really working hard for this debut. I don't even see them mocking other debuts.

[@sheenababy31]

I think a lot of the subscribers of this channel are BTS fans. My question is, BTS are already on top but why do they still have to comment negative things about Super M? As what Taemin said in one of their interviews.. “Yes, the competition exists and we can’t ignore that but we don’t want to step on other groups to get to the top. We want to stand alone as a group and bring something fresh and new to this K-pop scene."

[@gie9293]

"if the standard is BTS, then no, of course not"

[@anaporto7390]

They aren't the standard.

[@heeyeolie]

Those who came because of gd in the title, 14:31

[@anneB0927]

Thank you!

[@FeeqahzFreqaz]

It's not really a letter from gd to seungri.. I'm disappointed

[@anlicsceadu]

American general public member here. I'm new to this kpop thing and the only groups I've really latched onto so far are BTS, Day6, and recently KARD (because Dumb Litty kind of blew my mind). I tried to have a really open mind when I heard about this SuperM thing. I was hoping I might find some more good music to jam to. Yeah, I couldn't do it. It reminded me of old Backstreet Boys music and how cringe that whole era was. Maybe it's my personal taste, because I was never a fan of the 2000s boy bands to begin with, but I honestly don't see it catching on over here. If their fans love it, that's great! Y'all enjoy whatever you want, no hate. But I'll be super surprised if it even slightly gains traction in the mainstream over here. Now KARD I could see going someplace. Like seriously that song was lit. I kind of wish it would catch on, because I'm so freakin tired of the same old music on the radio.

[@kermyyy4134]

The SuperM EP has multiple album versions + merch bundles + concert ticket bundles for their ARENA tour (all of that counts to Billboard200 album chart), if it were any western act and a label like Capitol, they would be expecting a top 5 debut on BB200 from the concert ticket bundle ALONE - top 10 would be worse than expected - and if that EP debuts worse than no.10.... it's gonna be difficult not to call that a flop given the sheer amount of money invested. They just handed Ellen a $50K cheque! I would hope with all the added help of the bundles they should debut 1-3 on BB200.

[@Doyoungismyfave]

Except it is expected to debut in the top 5 alone

[@firefly19690]

A friend of mine got tickets to a concert and said it was like surviving the Hunger Games. Pretty sure their concerts will be packed!

[@Doyoungismyfave]

Firefly69 yeah getting tickets was crazy hard. The fair fax/dc show only has like 324 tickets left. Most of the tour is at about 80-90% sold out.

[@altineiman8854]

They have a lot of support and they will be fine. The problem is that negative people are usually the loudest and overshadow people who are positive. The real fans are in the background doing their thing without making noise and will support SuperM till the end.

[@Doyoungismyfave]

Altine Iman I think the fans are doing great to overshadow the hate 🙌

[@shhhh5895]

Jopping could have 2 meanings like how a party can be jumping or popping like an adjective instead of a verb. Mark said it’s like they’re having a party. Also they wanted a song that’s easy to sing along to, and just listen to the beat if they preformed at the Super Bowl after their tour that could be the exposure they need, because I think it would be a good hype song that would fit there with the energy. People that don’t believe in them are haters.

[@bell-ir7xs]

"People who dont believe in them are haters" I disagree. People were skeptical about this group from the get-go, and the fandoms were really divided on them. Like why even have this group in the first place? Thats why when they debuted there was SUCH . mixed reaction. Some like you loved it, some HATED it, and some were embarrassed of it (knets supposedly). You heard the industry expert. It just wont go like SM wants it to, and thats just how it is sadly.

[@shhhh5895]

bell Idk if anyone can predict the future there are many possibilities. How can you judge something that’s happening for the first time. There have been many artists that have been told they wouldn’t make it and have. Also why do they have so many views already, and who is this expert??.. Even David said he still thinks they will succeed. They’re haters if their putting them down rather than supporting them, and if you’re embarrassed by the music you listen to then why do you listen to k-pop.Also how is it not a good idea people will like the members and check out their individual groups as well. All they need is a platform that people outside of kpop fans will know about. Americans only don’t like it because they know nothing about it they shouldn’t have to change who they are to fit in anyways people are literally talking shit because of one word. I mean this is capital records idea. Plus this has queen stadium vibes if you think about the catchiness of the chorus. If Idol can be a hit anything can anyways. Since a lot of haters start with BTS.

[@bell-ir7xs]

@@shhhh5895 1. I have a right to an opinion, so i'll judge whatever I want to lol, wether its good or bad 2. this isnt just a rookie group, this is a "super group" filled with members that have already "made it" in their own respective groups. im talking about super m, together, that ppl were skeptical about them. 3. of course you bring up views. this is AMERICA, were talent, music, & art >>> views. 4. i'm not putting them down? all I said was people who don't believe they will make it aren't haters, they're stating an opinion. if people ARE putting them down, then that IS hate. pls learn the difference. 5. did you even read my comment? I said "Some like you loved it, some HATED it, and some were embarrassed of it (knets supposedly)". Where in that sentence does it say that I was embarrassed?? hello? SOME. and mostly from KNETS. PLS read. 6. "Americans only don’t like it because.." well sorry to break it to you, but if americans dont like it then thats a big problem. they're debuting in america and are appealing to americans. if the target audience doesnt like it, then don't you think thats kinda bad? 7. idek why BTS was being brought up but go off I guess lmao

[@shhhh5895]

bell First BTS was brought up in this video if you watched it. Second when you’re blatantly saying their not going to make it in America that is putting them down. When I said Americans don’t like it I meant Kpop in general and it’s mostly because of the language. I have asked many people that don’t know about kpop and that’s their main complaint when they listen to it. Anyways I’m American I like it so anyone else here can too. Also Americans aren’t so sensitive over one word if the whole song is catchy. I know your trying to sound cool or something by having an attitude, but I can read just fine. So that’s the end for my part I’m not trying to waste my time on this when we just disagree on everything.

[@bell-ir7xs]

@@shhhh5895 I- ...are you reading right? I NEVER said they wouldn't make it. I said that it wouldn't go as SM wanted (people 100% falling in love with super m, crazy album sales, crazy numbers, etc.) not that they couldn't make it at ALL. I also said that people who "don't believe that they'll make it aren't haters, they're just stating an opinion" because a lot of us fans were confused and skeptical from the start. Where did I "blantantly" say they werent going to make it? Or did you jump to conclusions that I hate them because I'm not bowing and kissing their ass? You asking "many people" is NOT the opinion of the general American population but ok. The whole point I have been trying to make isn't just over the word "jopping". Its the group as a whole. Since you want to bring up BTS even though they didnt add to your point, I'll bring them up to add them to mine. BTS got popular in the west due to a combination of timing, music, and their FANS. Super M's fanbase is all over the place atm. Without fans constantly giving their support, how are american locals gonna start looking into them? Sure super m is getting some TV appearances but everyone knows social media is king. And when you look up super m on social media its a hot mess. We as kpop fans are used to sounds like this (kinda) but to the average American that might not be the case. You & your circle of friends saying the song is catchy doesnt prove anything, its the numbers and the sales. and where are those?

[@rocketfallen]

I kept getting Snapping in my head except I'd sing "Jopping Jopping" to it EDIT: i'm pleased that this is apparently a common phenomenon. JOPPING JOPPING~

[@hadassah6563]

I've been getting snapping in my head too. But not like that... 😐🤣

[@bluejay4791]

Oh my God I thought I was the only one. Literally have been saying "jopping, ooh~ jopping jopping" in my head for like 3 days straight

[@nanditashenoy5342]

Oh. My. God. !!! Me too😂😂

[@mateobanda6808]

ME TOO

[@moonchild1158]

Afshdjdkdd i thought i was the only one

[@Elipachuau]

Creating SuperM is just SM saying they've failed as a company. These groups were alredy sooo good. How would the other members feel, they're just neglecting them. All they have to do was promote their respective groups.

[@dabyduran9039]

I think what david said about technology is truth! Have you seen their merch? the shirts are in another level incorporating technology to it

[@RenaG]

I can’t listen to jopping. I feel stupid even saying this word

[@Theowl354]

Same

[@anaporto7390]

So try No Manners or 2 fast. SuperM debut album has too much colors...

[@shirleej.b6005]

me too, me too girl

[@paranoidevol]

same. i couldn't even listen to it twice. it's just not my style at all.

[@ilovemylayswithbaekhyunfla7847]

Same I didn't even watch the teasers..

[@Luna-es4uf]

*I see GD I click* ❤️ King coming soon btw ❤️

[@ThatBlackPiano]

To start, let me just say I love seeing Kai and Taemin together in the group!!! I’m an ARMY who has always liked and respected NCT, EXO, and loved SHINee w/ Taemin as my bias, but honestly the Super M fans are gonna have to put in some work if they want to help SM Entertainment make a mark in the US market. It’s been SIX days and they still have not approached the 30 million mark. I’ll be forever cheering Super M and their fandom on from the sidelines. This video is currently at 21 million. I want good results for the members, but this won’t get them nor SM the numbers they were looking for. SM admitted they put this super group together in hopes of taking America by storm after seeing the reception of BTS here. They think because they can speak some English as a group that this will get them BTS numbers and TV show invites. Doing things this lazy way comes off as SM Entertainment thinking Americans are stupid and desperate for Kpop and any old thing will do never mind the fact that US fans were instrumental in bringing Kpop into the light since generation 1 w/ BoA and Rain. English is not a requirement for US fans. Never has been. Not for an American kpop fan, especially not for fandoms as dedicated as us ARMYs. BUT, we do like for the English that gets used to make sense and be accurate. This song needs a lot of help; better writers, better producers, better PR, and better collaboration. The mere idea of mashing up words to get “jopping” was childish and much like "fetch" it will NEVER be a thing! ;) The members of Super M are, of course, superb! Don’t, for a minute, think I am dissing THEM. But, honestly, this song is just okay. Each group in their own respective corners had better songs than this one and I am surprised SM Entertainment thought, “Yes! This is the one! We will introduce the group with THIS!!!!” The members deserve better and more in-depth attention paid to their content and presentation. There is a valid reason they have not been able to even TOUCH the 30 million views mark after SIX DAYS and are still hovering at 22 million!!! Doing business this way will NOT get them the hype they seek and that is disappointing for the guys. I love Taemin and want good things for him and Kai as well. Heck, all the guys deserve good things and just about every artist deserves better than SM. ;) It also does NOT help that there are haters in the comments of the video saying that us ARMYs are "not welcome" and that we somehow have no right to support other Kpop artists. Yup. SM has somehow brought forth those good ol' salty haters which is just going to hurt the group by keeping other fans away. Just sayin'.

[@burningSunset78]

Probably the best written comment in this whole section. I completely agree.

[@kimjeon5709]

Totally agree with you.

[@tchellenunya7561]

It is not US army toting bts its their social media following toting them. They have a big internet following, that is why their views are so many...dont get it wrong, they arent as big here as people are thinking they are...barely anyone knows who they are...

[@ThatBlackPiano]

Tchelle McKay Nice try, but no one said US ARMY was “toting” BTS; whatever that means. ARMY is massive and we do pride ourselves on our collective internet outreach. Thanks for noticing. Internet outreach on its own, however, does not get BTS the clout they have in America. Not sure if you’re American or where in America you are from, but more than enough Americans do know who BTS is on a national scale. If your region does not know that simply means they are lacking in ARMY representation and do not have the numbers to get enough radio play demands. You do not make it onto the programs BTS has made it to by being ‘barely known’. 😉BTS would not break US sales records and charting records that they’ve broken if ‘barely’ any American knew of them.

[@emanmohd2033]

I agree with Danny "jopping" sound cringy af!

[@LullabyKitty]

I'm sorry but can we please talk about the upgrade of the background? The DKDKTV neon sign? I'm loving it! Danny & David getting that high quality they deserve!

[@chrismunk]

“Anonymous American music journalist”? Could’ve just been a friend lol. Jk, I understand her not wanting to reveal her identity...kpop stans be cray and might blow up her social media accounts for what essentially is an articulate insight on the SuperM thing. Also, as an American Kpop fan, this whole SuperM situation is actually pretty great. If this is SM’s answer to BTS’ success in USA, then it’s like if two hot guys were fighting for my attention. A win-win situation lol! I’ll admit I’m a fan of everyone...not just BTS, but EXO, NCT, and Shinee. I even bought tickets to the SuperM tour in NYC. My rationale was basically what SM was banking on...I’ve never had the chance to see EXO or Shinee live, so hell year at $50 a ticket with a free album, I’ll shell out!

[@detphemale]

I agree. I don't give any real credibility to an Anonymous Music Journalist's forecasts or opinions. I seriously don't understand why so many are looking for any reason they can find to tear this group down. Korean fans are the only fans I have ever seen, who elevate their "idols", to God-Like status, only to murder them later, on social and other media venues. Instead of overthinking this, why can't everybody just enjoy the music? We'll be seeing SuperM in Chicago, and we're excited!

[@madeinbusanjkjm]

Sadly, I was very disappointed in Jopping. I was really excited for this group cause I love Taemin but.....I listened to the whole album and I only loved the song "No Manner" but the single (Jopping) and the other songs was not that amazing in my opinion. The dancing was still dope though...as expected. I just hoped for so much more when it comes to the music and I hope they get some better songs in the future.

[@wanderingspirit7278]

I thought everything about SuperM was perfect, you may not see it now but this grp has a huge shot at becoming the IT grp, I dont even stan any of their respective grps but they made me stan SuperM for sure, the talent is unreal I feel like Danny is just a little biased towards other grps.

[@anaporto7390]

@@fandiearmy6050 Opinions aren't facts. BTS aren't SuperM's standard and never will be. BTS is BTS. SuperM is SuperM. No one knows what will happen in the future. The only fact here is that SuperM's guys are hella talented and have much potential.

[@anaporto7390]

@@fandiearmy6050 Girl, bundles aren't illegal. All American artists do bundles. SuperM are competing with american artists using the same methods american artists use. INTERNATIONAL SALES WEREN'T COUNTED. Billboard and Nielsen have keys to avoid frauds. Billboard herself wrote an whole article explained that SuperM achieved their first spot fairly. It's enough. Y'all can say whatever you want. SuperM are the first asian debut act to reach the # 1 on BB200. Billboard validated their achievement. And stop comparing them with bts. Koreaboo opinion # SuperM/ Capitol/ SM statements. SuperM or their companies never mentioned bts. They don't need this. SuperM's talent speak for themselves.

[@anaporto7390]

@@fandiearmy6050 Your faves bundled the Citifield concert. They did it once. Do some research. Bts were at # 1 but the concert bundles helped them to stay at a good position on BB200. SuperM is the first asian debut act to reach # 1 on BB 200 and y'all can do nothing about it. We - fans - bought massive physical albums. A lot of fans bought all the 8 versions. You can see the photos on twitter. Don't diminute our efforts with that bundles thing. Go to Target or Wallmart and ask about SuperM's albums sales. If Billboard change their rules next year, nothing is going to change bc we will buy many albums again. You're a proud Army. I'm a proud SuperM's supporter. I don't go to bts' videos harass them. I respect them as artists and humans. Some Armys should do the same thing. You aren't obligate to stan, but respect them at least.

[@anaporto7390]

@@fandiearmy6050 Okay Army! Have a nice day and focus on your faves 🙃

[@AmberPruitt]

I can't wait to see SuperM. Y'all need to stop with comparing them with BTS. Just stop.

[@Aussiedoll1]

Amber Pruitt agreed, it’s friggin annoying and insulting.... to both groups

[@irispecorelli9940]

“What do you think the future is?” “BTS” Yup

[@rahuljethwa9159]

facts girl future is bts

[@hellolovelies7084]

Bts everywhere oh god stop we all are the future guys not just bts lolololo

[@pleaseparkjimininmygarage-6212]

i was laughing so hard

[@-suisimp1734]

DAVID NEEDS TO BRING BETTER NEWS

[@DKDKTV]

- JennieIsBae I wonder what danny wouldve brought if it was my turn to edit this video - meaning i would get to choose 2 of the important news which was superm and idol school. I had to choose among leftovers and as u saw Han Seo Hee and GD letter mistranslation was trending from #1-10 for the whole day. Danny said at 2pm “why tf is this trending on ent. news” and at 11pm he said “wtf, han seo hee is trending #1 on Naver(non ent. news)?” And before danny chuckles after seeing this comment and thinks that i got pissed. No im just drunk and writing this long comment in the taxi to tell you how our work flow is like. And yeah i know the context is from the livechat. Bye

[@DKDKTV]

Dannys prolly gonna reply to this like “ok david calm down”

[@robinpalabiyik7703]

@@DKDKTV Don't sweat the haters....she can choose not to watch it if she wants.....you do you David....I wouldn't watch this show at all if it wasn't for you....Does Danny even realize that he can do the news without constant swearing and referring to sex every 2 seconds? geeezzz...he's like a 15 yr old....

[@xoxoaysh]

News is something that makes a headline or being talked about. It's being talked about currently, so, aren't those news worthy?

[@bigbanglover66]

@@DKDKTV i love this

[@daviqhakim3936]

The thing is, Super M came with too much confidence and optimist. That's not good. and unfortunately it's not the netizens or media that call them the "Avengers of kpop" but SM himself (you can see the banner in their premiere debut show). Meanwhile for BTS case, they have astronomical success and media and netizens call them 21st century Beatles. Look at the concept. It's you who should be succesful and then people claim you. Not you claim yourself but don't give anything as good as the claim

[@RinUesu1]

Yes👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👌😁

[@anjsan33san48]

Thank God so true

[@anjsan33san48]

Super m is too boring and definitely cringey

[@cheekygerm7686]

Thanks david for being realistic and optimist about superM.. love youu.. btw i dont understand danny, how can you easily judge superm without even watching their MV or listening to full song or their album.. siigh..

[@abantibharali641]

Exactly

[@chiwilovely]

im kinda torn about the whole Idol School controversy. If all of this are true then CJent owe more than an apology to the whole nation but on the other hand i feel so worried about fromis_9. I mean its not even the girls fault they get chosen by CJent to sign those contract, but you all know how scary knetizens are when it comes to taking down artist who are controversial. Its been a week now they didnt post anything on their vlive channel where they usually uploads every 2-3 days. I cant heart it if something happen to them 😭

[@amy_ambrosio]

I love fromis_9 babies, they're so good, I hope this won't affect them 🙏🏻

[@peace_wise2809]

I think cj EM should get the taste of their own medicine. I can see the kind of blacklash they would get if they launch another season of produce. If Mama gets exposed too then we have some tea. For years the deserved have been deprived of their honour and an investigation is making it more juicy to wait. Fromis girls ,I hope the company doesn't do shit to them or who knows what kind of treatment the girls may be going through?

[@PiffMimz]

Jopping is gotta be the most ridiculous word lmao xD I agree with danny that the lyrics are cringy :P lmao people be like fricking up GD's life while he's away....

[@GDisGOD]

I’m a simple person I see GD I click 😉

[@coldcalculatingxxx4331]

GDisGOD • me too

[@JustineBarnum]

I honestly see why SuperM was aiming for Kpop stans on America because it's good for exposure but who tf allowed America to be the one to determine what songs are good or not. This allowed Americans to be cocky about authenticity and lyrics. "The lyrics are cringey!" Like we didn't allow the stupidest songs to be #1 LMAOOOOO

[@v4leree]

i agree the lyrics of jopping don't really have a deeper message than "flexing" maybe, but the song is still good, is still catchy and i think the album is actually good, i enjoy the songs. Maybe with their second album they improve this, also, if we're gonna fixate on lyrics now there are a lot of kpop songs that don't make any sense and american pop songs too so honestly i don't think it's that big of an issue. I really hope they do well, because all the boys have worked so hard on this and they're all so talented, they deserve it.

[@Caelum_-xu6sk]

I think what fans really like is growing attached to a group slowly, going through ups and downs with them and see them grow organically. The way SuperM was put together was very inorganic and basically "manufactured", so I think that is why fans are so confused.

[@rumic6071]

Jopping is definitely not my cup of tea and 🙋 agree with Danny the lyrics were lame and cringe worthy 😂

[@exoxophanie4363]

I’m glad it’s not just me that thought jopping sounded dirty

[@Mexican4life14]

Well on urban dictionary, one of the definitions is ejaculating into someone ear. Specifically a man lmao

[@nicoleshh]

Mexican4life14 oh lord. I laughed way too hard at that. 😂😂😂

[@nearby4539]

@@Mexican4life14 A hacker got in after the Title was released .. the boys subtly addressed it in their interview w Beats1 .... Yes they do keep track of all the negativity hurled at them ...

[@lucymay446]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought jopping sounded weird....didn't need Danny to do the sound demonstration tho lmao

[@SirenRising]

I didn’t like Jooping at first but it grew on me. However, most ppl in the states won’t give it a 2nd or 3rd listen. Their debut song should’ve been one that appealed to (most of) the general public on first listen. I don’t think any of those trainees went into it thinking that would be the conditions. They didn’t sign up for the military, & at least in the military you can still visit the Dr if necessary. There needs to be some regulations in place esp if some or most of those girls are underage.

[@Watasiwaemidesu]

Had to click out of the video bc got so freaking annoyed of comparing super M to bts all the time... THEY ARE NOT BTS AND THEY ARE NOT EVEN TRYING TO BE. STOP COMPARING THEM! This group is super experimental ofcourse it will have a mixed response and even I agree that going to usa straight away was probably not the best option but I kinda think sm wanted to do it just to bring more attention to the group in korea too. Think about it, if u live in a much smaller country and a group from there suddenly debuts in a huge country like usa wouldnt that catch your attention?

[@firefly19690]

I hate they comparisons as well. Why does it have to be one or the other?!

[@Thecurator24]

The debut song was super low on melon charts. So know korea completly ignored it. Any release of the different groups would have toped the chart

[@San-hv2qj]

lexique juridique their priority was not SK. Songs from their individual groups have never debuted below melon 10-15 so im sure if they had debuted in SK, they would have made it in Melon

[@abyssblink5295]

their marketing strategy guaranteed comparisons to bts

[@aliciarcarter3522]

@@abyssblink5295 This is Capitol Records and America's marketing it's normal. To promote western artist like this(from any record label), SuperM isn't using BTS formula.