EXO Chen is a Father / BTS CONNECT Project / PARASITE Nominated for 6 Academy Awards [D-K NEWS]

[@microspace2157]

Dispatch must feel some type of way about people now just telling on themselves in 2020 instead of them outing them

[@emilys2562]

Lmao

[@abbadfatima1239]

😂😂😂

[@DKDKTV]

they need a new business model

[@annniea1566]

Plot twist: dispatch knew already....and that’s why they got paid off 😭😭

[@microspace2157]

@@annniea1566 I don't think so in 2020 they're just beating them to the punch line at this point

[@GMineoLetsPlay]

Hopefully one day it'll be normal to see idols getting married and having kids

[@lexiconjessica]

I have hope for that too.

[@NewBlueTrue]

K-Mineo You’re right! They’re humans and many idols are adults, so they should be able to do what they want without backlash

[@Anathi99]

I hope so too. 💜🌼 everyone should get to live a full life, and for some people that includes getting married and having children 💖

[@kira2742]

it actually is already! in Japan anyways, specifically EXILE

[@kookiejeon5280]

Yes

[@sschwarz2084]

Chen's marriage not only sets the precedent for EXO - maybe it will make the idea of an idol dating/getting married more acceptable to Korean society on the whole? Not that that could become the norm since sex appeal and romantic imagination is a large part of what the K-pop industry sells.

[@ZeushyTV]

True, other than hot single men, people have daddy kinks too.

[@supr33]

In other countries, celebrities are still seen as desirable even after they get married and have kids.

[@jungkooks_microwavephobia]

I think its already happening. I don’t really think koreans have a deep set hate for idols dating since its a part of life compared to things like marijuana consumption. Its more an industry standard

[@sarahlouise00]

I doubt it. The whole concept of kpop groups in Korea is for the idols to be your boyfriend, they market them like that. If they don’t change this way of marketing, a few idols dating won’t change the hate they get.

[@supr33]

@@sarahlouise00 Good point, the companies should stop promoting the image of an idol as the ideal boyfriend or girlfriend, but that's what sells unfortunately. I mean even the idols themselves to some extent need to stop saying things like "my fans are my girlfriends" and stuff like that. Especially since the younger fans are very impressionable.

[@alakomachado9680]

Brazilian Exo-ls already created a Twt fan account for Chen's baby, and a Facebook page called "Is Chen's baby born yet?". I love my B-fandoms. My aunt is going to Seoul this month and I'm really thinking about sending a Huggies package to SM's building HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@DKDKTV]

brazilians lol

[@kaninavy3119]

Brazilian fans are a special breed lol

[@alakomachado9680]

@@DKDKTV We are doing online contests too. Who guesses the baby's sex, whose gonna be the Godfather, and most importantly: WHOSE GONNA SING AT THE WEDDING! The winner gets EXO albuns

[@natidantas]

Mano Br tá em outro nível kakakakakkakakaka

[@alakomachado9680]

@@natidantas HAHAHAHAHAHA SIM MANO as fanbases brasileiras estão em um OUTRO nível mano hahahahaha

[@ShannonRochon]

He literally, in his letter, said that EXO members & company were consulted & the issue was discussed before the letter wss revealed. So where is this lack of consideration they're talking about? If the members & the company were fine with the timing then everyone else needs to STFU themselves. I honestly think this is mainly a K-EXO-L issue. I truly hope he doesn't let the negativity win because EXO would be at a horrible disadvantage without him. This is coming from someone who is not an EXO fan.

[@treeoflife9960]

these so called "fans" that are calling him out for not thinking about his members when publicing these news obviously did not read his letter and neither have they any idea of what brotherhood really means! Chen stated in his letter that he talked about his plans with his members and the agency and that they were happy for him, obviously they all knew that some shit would be coming in their direction but they were fine with it because they love Chen and at some point in the future they want to have a family as well!

[@mami11420]

Reiki glad I’m not the only one who remembered he said that in his letter.. some fans really think they know more... smfh

[@amby8719]

Reiki exactly. they don’t understand. exo loves and supports each other and they were willing to let Chen go through with sending out this letter.

[@taeeeinjeans7818]

Exactly what I was thinking. His members are closer to him than any of us will ever be. Clearly they support his decision.

[@st4rozemira]

This person gave a good explanation: Chelle_newyork 5 hours ago I'm not an Exo-l but I think because Taeyang was dating publicly for 3 years, everyone knew about it and "assumed" they would get married someday which is exactly what happened. Even so, it's a big deal in Korea if they happened to be pregnant first before marriage, it's a cultural thing.. it happens but not something you can openly or proudly talk about. Chen's situation is a bit different because he was hiding the fact that he was dating and all of a sudden the fans get news of him dating, marrying, and even a baby on the way.. a 3 combo hit lol. So I heard they were upset about the fact that he hid this from the fans and he only confessed after the baby is almost due. Also they were upset that he hid this fact during his solo promotion, had everyone spend all that money to support him and then dropped the news..so they're saying he was manipulating his fans. They also didn't like the fact that he dropped the news in between the member's bdays and the day before one of their member's press conference about some other gig, they find the timing to be selfish. And lastly, they think Exo's image will be tarnished as an "old daddy group". So in Korea, being an idol means being someone you can be looked up upon and everything above + premarriage baby is too shocking for the fans since they "think" they have this family-like relationship but all this news suddenly gives them a reality check and they feel dumb for spending so much time and money on them. I don't really care so much about this issue but I looked into it one day so I've read their side of this issue. As an outsider, my initial thought was "what?!" but quickly turned to congrats.

[@st4rozemira]

Initially you can't imagine how much money they spend (months of salary every year prbly) so you can't understand why they're upset. Obsession not healthy but try to be understanding before judging

[@mayflower1108]

It’s funny how the Korean fans who have turned their backs on Chen don’t understand that they’re the people they’re talking about. These ‘fans’ are the reason why those things are trending and why the members are negatively affected by the news. It’s because of them. I don’t understand why they don’t see it. They keep acting like it’s because they’re mad he ruined the groups image and they want to protect the group but the reason the groups image is being ‘destroyed’ is *because* of the mad ‘fans’ themselves. If these ‘fans’ didn’t have such a negative and ugly reaction (which they fake as concern) then no one would want to pull their contracts or deals from the group. There is no reason to. So it isn’t Chen’s fault it’s theirs. If any brands pull from the group it’s because of the ‘fans’ and their toxic and hurtful reaction. Once again. If there wasn’t such a negative reaction by salty and controlling fans then companies and brands wouldn’t pull away from the group.

[@racpan3179]

That's an awesome way to put it! An idol's image is usually going to be based on what other people think (fans and such), and sometimes people don't realize that.

[@jungkooks_microwavephobia]

If these fans don’t stop, even more members will be leaving exo😭... huge groups like suju can still succeed with a few departures even though its heartbreaking to fans, but if exo keeps losing members after already losing 3-4 (or whatever happened to yixing) WHATS THE POINT.

[@K0108-x8y]

congratulations you just repeated yourself like 12 times xD No but I agree

[@Epionela]

I agree. But if you think about it these people expect these idols to be a dancing singing priests. You can't stop them but if we westerners welcome these kicked out idols then it would mean a great deal for them.

[@Rahmaa2002]

Preach

[@kaninavy3119]

I'm not Korean, but I'm so happy Korea is getting the recognition it deserves after decades of masterpieces.

[@honeyv540]

Seriously! I love exploring International films/shows and Korea has some top notch talent.

[@kaninavy3119]

Honey V their plots especially put western movies to shame.

[@DKDKTV]

well deserved regardless of nationality

[@kaninavy3119]

DKDKTV absolutely.

[@saraha8513]

Kani Navy3 there have been western remakes of Korean movies and TV shows

[@marychatzifotiadou8124]

Idols are human too! Let them date, marry, have kids in peace ... They don't owe you anything.

[@loveitftw]

So👏 true 👏

[@egglito]

As an art student it makes me so excited to see so many different fields of art collaborate together to push the boundaries and to impart us with meaningful knowledge. It makes me so pumped to see other projects like this. It's such a shame I don't live in any of these countries, I would have loved to check it out

[@vw2770]

You can live stream the exhibition. Interesting ways of combining different medium and technologies . catharsis.live/

[@Napchuli]

Im from Argentina and I didnt know about this, when David said Buenos Aires I almost choked on my "mahteh"

[@monimuppet6132]

BTS may not all have the same political views, they also just may not want to say anything more specific about their beliefs. Being a positive influence through encouragement works a lot better than attempting to tell others how they should live, what is right and wrong. Our words can be twisted by the masses so easily. We've become so concerned with "speaking our truth" that we've forgotten that we can still live that truth without telling everybody about it. I personally prefer not knowing specifically what BTS' political standings are. They aren't running for office so they don't need to broadcast them, they may not be useful. Sometimes our "truth" only matters for us, our individual life. We don't have to share every freaking thing.

[@erisotunsa442]

Can I just say I love you for this comment. Like I have so many things running through my head and you've just expressed it for me

[@sarahlouise00]

I think they do want, but their label doesn’t let them say it.

[@erisotunsa442]

Bts speaks about social issues. At the GDA 2020 awards. Rm said and I quote "As we are highlighted by the spotlight and we can say whatever we want to say, The reality is that there are so many artist who could not and still are in a place where they cannot be seen ands they work so hard and with sincerity to make music. In 2020, i hope their resonance, efforts and sincerity will be paid off fairly and won't be wasted. I hope 2020 really pays them back and I thank and give my love to all the musicians who inspire and Set and example for me. Apart from "criticising saejagi" , he's sending love and encouragement to struggling artists. Also BTS promoted the END violence campaign. Which is a global project aimed at protecting children and teens from violence and encouraging preventive measures by encouraging people to be kind and to refrain from cyber bullying amongst others.

[@sarahlouise00]

Eri Sotunsa they do speak about a lot of social issues, but what they talked about at GDA isn’t a social issue, it’s an industry issue. a better example would be Namjoon’s speech at the UN, he mentioned gender identity, race, etc. Those are social issues.

[@erisotunsa442]

@@sarahlouise00 Thank you. The UN speech is another great example of bts speaking about social issues. I guess what I'm trying to point out is that Bts use their platform to speak issues.

[@chelseawischhusen1786]

33 year old Army, married, 3 kids, classical musician AND a museum lover 😂. Not sure about other countries or cultures but here in the UK, we have a lot of young art lovers and our museums are filled with all types of people. Also I wish Chen and his new family nothing but happiness and health 💜

[@mayflower1108]

Also, these ‘fans’ should like the group for their talents and artistry. It’s ok to be attracted to a member and have a little crush but to think that they owe you something back is idiotic and childish. It’s also ok to be shocked by the news and a little sad because that can be a natural reaction for fans but how some of these ‘fans’ handled their feelings shows that they weren’t raised correctly and shows how they see these people as products to only serve them. Like, I’m still going to be shower singing to Shall We? and Beautiful Goodbye by Chen as well as Universe by Exo etc. Etc. Because I actually like their music and don’t pretend to be a fan because I think they should dedicate themselves to me. Like da*mn did he mur*der someone? Did he hurt someone (literally)? Did he do something morally wrong? No. He literally has a fiancée who got pregnant and he wants to marry her. He’s nearly a 30 year old man. These people need to get the stick that’s shoved up their butt out and learn how to live a little. Ok, my TedTalk is over now.

[@moonchild1158]

👏👏👏👏👏 Preach fam. I try to be understanding about cultural diffrerences and all but frankly speaking some of the Kfans reactions and reasonings are just a pile of rubbish. The way they react shows that they don't "love" or "support" their idols as they claim. They just see them as objects made to please them,and not human beings worthy of respect. Those so called fans make me sick.

[@shahd6643]

You my friend have said the right thing, did they really think "cHeN oPpAr iS gOnNa mArRy mE" like no wtf he is almost 30 like wtf he ain't gonna be single forever and so will his members and other idols.

[@AweSam0830]

👌🏻🥰

[@anjielyamadora854]

👏👏👏👏

[@st4rozemira]

@@moonchild1158 This person gave a good expanation: This person gave a good explanation: Chelle_newyork 5 hours ago I'm not an Exo-l but I think because Taeyang was dating publicly for 3 years, everyone knew about it and "assumed" they would get married someday which is exactly what happened. Even so, it's a big deal in Korea if they happened to be pregnant first before marriage, it's a cultural thing.. it happens but not something you can openly or proudly talk about. Chen's situation is a bit different because he was hiding the fact that he was dating and all of a sudden the fans get news of him dating, marrying, and even a baby on the way.. a 3 combo hit lol. So I heard they were upset about the fact that he hid this from the fans and he only confessed after the baby is almost due. Also they were upset that he hid this fact during his solo promotion, had everyone spend all that money to support him and then dropped the news..so they're saying he was manipulating his fans. They also didn't like the fact that he dropped the news in between the member's bdays and the day before one of their member's press conference about some other gig, they find the timing to be selfish. And lastly, they think Exo's image will be tarnished as an "old daddy group". So in Korea, being an idol means being someone you can be looked up upon and everything above + premarriage baby is too shocking for the fans since they "think" they have this family-like relationship but all this news suddenly gives them a reality check and they feel dumb for spending so much time and money on them. I don't really care so much about this issue but I looked into it one day so I've read their side of this issue. As an outsider, my initial thought was "what?!" but quickly turned to congrats.

[@soraa98]

I just wanna point out that BTS are actually paying for this project with their own money

[@roguechevelle]

Thank you! I was just about to mention this That BTS members themselves are funding the project not Big Hit. So in a way they are speaking their minds because this is their own project not the companies. There has been a lot of artwork in the past that was used as inspirations in BTS MV's and Bookish Theories just did a brief explanation of the artwork associated with the Shadow comeback trailer but also mentions some works used in past MV's. Check out BTS Suga Comeback Trailer: The hidden art behind the Shadow kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHa4doeDh8pkhdk

[@hannahk7691]

That’s not confirmed.

[@kashley4053]

@@hannahk7691 Yes, thats confirmed fact here in Korea.

[@waga7764]

I really felt and still feel so grateful towards BTS for this whole world wide art curation, (I just know this has to be Namjoon's brainchild) I checked out all the artists that are involved, some of them I knew from before and some I didn't,....and all of them are so unique....and as an art student I can tell the art world is kinda going crazy at this, even my professor who's also a curator was so excited about this. People not familiar with art world might not know but this project developed by BTS is a MAJOR Art project in modern history....nothing of this scale has happened in recent for artists.

[@alperry02]

That is very cool. Yes I think people not in the art world don't get the magnitude of this project. This took coordination on a worldwide scale. It's very cool

[@scarlata8rd]

Just want to say that I think this has actually Hitman Bang written all over. He is an art fanatic since always and Namjoon maybe got inspire in the last year to explore art too because of him. ++ Tae is also an art fan. +++ I think all of them got more involved in the art world because of them and thats why they developed this connect proyect together.

[@Ichimomo101]

Why do armys think that the members have any actual involvement in the projects that are released under the BTS brand? Their PR team are the geniuses in this case. The project itself is kind of a wasted opportunity, don’t you think? This was an opportunity to make the art market more liberal and accessible to emerging artists, to artists that aren’t white or male but they chose to run in the same circle that already controls the art field. Not to mention that the message itself of this project is so entry-level woke. They brought nothing new to the table

[@jilll1287]

ciaran brockhampton why do think this a Namjoon project? Many of the other are also interested in visual and fine arts. Your assumptive comment discredits the other members.

[@Thecurator24]

@@Ichimomo101 Because, first V and RM are art fanatics so i tdoes make sense for them to think of something like that. Second the project is funded by the members theselves not bighit. Fird you might want to take an other look at all the artist that are participating writing on the internet. Forth, that idea that people want to be woke, instead of just making something that they like actually want is dumb, trully. You westerners especially Americans have to stop thinking that your view of the world is universal, that is called ethnocentrism.

[@alexa-vq2ji]

This shows how this "fans" are here only for the image of a handsome idol and not for the talented kindhearted person behind it, Chen deserves better than that

[@moongurl8540]

You are so right!! The thought makes me sad that Chen and other members see those petitions and hashtags.. It must make him so sad so we have to spread the love for him 💕

[@uni1935]

#CHENFORHUGGIES

[@supr33]

"The typical crowd that goes to K-pop concerts vs. the typical crowd that goes to contemporary art museums is very different" my sister is an artist so we went to a BTS concert and several art galleries in the same day 😅 BTS Connect sounds like a really good initiative to get more people interested in contemporary art. I hope I can visit one of the exhibitions!

[@Rahmaa2002]

Samme, cuz after stanning BTS I started to actually enjoy more arts, painting, statues, the beutiful sky and nature more... I realised how I have been missing out on a lot (nature beuty) while just being home w internet, and I'm so thankful for them💜💜

[@1swerdna]

Yep. I’ve been frequenting museums and orchestra performances for years. Still love BTS and different kinds of music. Ppl don’t need to be put into boxes.

[@KirstenRoddenClarke]

A man with a child can still be a beer or AirPod “model” or whatever in North America. Anywayyyyys, views on Idols are slowly changing in South Korea which is great! Long way to go. Chen stay strong ❤️

[@karlar7372]

When I started getting into Kpop, I always found the “taboo” around idols dating being weird. I get that bc I’m an international fan I have a different view about my favorite artists dating/marrying/having a family. I’ve read articles/watched videos on reasons why its not accepted but it still makes me angry and upset. I almost cried of happiness when I found out this news about Chen bc all I want for him and the rest of EXO and the rest of groups I love, is to be happy.

[@tftsheepcup]

Why can’t people just be happy for him like most people were happy for Taeyang when he got married

[@salinadeled2629]

Jiho Kim Vips are just more mature because even when GD was revealed to be dating yes some were salty and shit but no vips demanded him to be leave bigbang for exemple also taeyang’s fans are veryyy mature. Also BigbAng never sold the “boyfriend group” image as much as Exo

[@TheEowyn22]

Salina Deled Well, I don’t know about how mature all VIPs are. Glad they were ok with dating, but listen to all the people saying they hate them for being “criminals” and that they should just go away and being all salty about them playing Coachella. All fandoms have crazy people, sadly...

[@Magent221]

Also I don’t understand why k-“fans” think Chen had a “bad timing”. SM had to release a statement since Sporbiz made an article, ofc Chen and SM had to say something about it. If the media weren’t always after them trying to expose their relationships- Chen even said he had a plan of how to tell the fans about his girlfriend, that he had talked with the members and SME; but the blessing happened and Sporbiz made that article and so everything was spoiled. Bah

[@AromieWorship]

There was an article first? I thought he posted his letter on his own accord.

[@Magent221]

Aera Evangeline yes, there was an article first, the one that said he was already married and his gf was 7 months pregnant. After SME and Chen’s statements, Sporbiz changed the article.

[@Magent221]

🤍 okay wait. I think you didn’t read me correctly? He didn’t want to “drop” the news (I don’t know How is it that you know Chen did Anything of this purposely??), an article was made without his consent. Also seven months OLD and seven months PREGNANT is a different thing; and SME denied it. Also Chen didn’t plan to release the news between members birthday or schedules, he had a *plan* (he said he talked to the members and the company) and that article spoiled it. And slow down the group? I think that is subjective. Everyone has their own schedule and for the times they have to be all together, Chen may or may not appear depending on his responsibilities and that is not a bad thing, nor a reason for him to not be in the group. Also his members should know how to deal with media. Look at Heechul, he literally asked everyone to refrain from asking about his relationship. I don’t think exo can’t do the same to an extent.

[@MrsLadyPerez]

I'm so happy for Chen! What a blessing!💚 I think it's a little selfish of fans to not consider how Chen feels. In reality, there would never be a right time to come out with this sort of news. He's an IDOL. Therefore, he'll always be busy. I think he wanted to get it over with so happiness could come sooner and I don't blame him. I hope he has a happy life with his love.

[@supr33]

That's what I was thinking, there is no 'good timing' because they're busy all of the time. He probably discussed everything with the management and the other members as well so I don't understand people claiming that he didn't consider them.

[@sandrisfer]

It's interesting to me that "people who go to k-pop concerts" vs "people of who go to art galleries" are not perceived as being the same... humans are not one dimensional characters that are defined by one sole interest. At least from my personal experience being an ARMY and interacting a great deal with other ARMYs online, I have seen first hand what a worldly view most of them have and how varied interests are. On a daily basis I notice how art in different forms circulates inside the fandom, not just related to BTS. So I would disagree that kpop-listeners and gallery-goers are often not the same individuals, liking a genre of music and appreciating other forms of art is definitely non exclusive :)

[@alperry02]

I'm one of those people 🙋🏽‍♀️ bts concert attendee and museum lover😊

[@veeinh]

Well you’re wrong. Average age of people who go to contemporary art museums is 42 and average kpop concert goer is 19. Do the math

[@ItsVanesaZ]

@@veeinh "average age". do you hear yourself? that doesn't mean people younger than 42 don't enjoy going to art exhibitions, it just means there's less of them.

[@sandrisfer]

@@veeinh No one is saying ALL k-pop listeners go to art exhibits, I'm just saying people should not be categorized by one single trait, as if liking something automatically means they can't like something else. Aside from the fact that many might not necessarily have the means to physically go to art galleries, which does not mean they do not enjoy and appreciate said type of art.

[@sasutomato]

@@veeinh I need some links showing if this is true or not. And I also heard mostly women go to concerts. Also schools have trips to museums all year round. Your age range sounds very off.

[@istanbts4558]

FYI..BTS members are the one that funding this BTS connect project,it's their own money not bighit.

[@Sleepgarden]

well when Chen asks "can I be your boyfriend, can I?" I mean somebody was bound to take him up on the offer. After all... it's the Love Shot.

[@gen5704]

The Enygma 😂😂😂

[@Pandalotl]

The Enygma perfect. just perfect. haha

[@sarahadera8443]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Enlightened08]

*FIRST I want to say that BTS and their team are GENIUSES!* Its no wonder they are a global phenomenon. its levels to this shit. They are engaging in so many different forms of artistic expression. GET IT BOO! *You continue to make ARMY proud!!* NOW, for the psycho fans. So called "fans" that want Chen to leave the group and are mad he is getting married are friggin weirdos *Why would you NOT want your idol to be happy?* He is about to be a dad and is getting married..this is a celebration. You dont OWN these idols entire lives AND they don't owe you shit. This a whole grown man doing what grown men do! *CONGRATS CHEN.* Majority of Exo-Ls are happy for you!!

[@kliphord123X]

Your comment needs more likes lol you're exactly right. One person in the comment sound as though BTS is going too far and eventually be they downfall which is being too political and I get that but can they at least realize what they done damn.

[@TypicalGeb]

OMG!!! I'm such an EXO-L but I hadn't even heard these amazing news!!! Honestly, I think Chen is going to make a great dad and family man!

[@honeyv540]

I'm happy for Chen. This is the start to idols normalizing that they are humans and allowed to have relationships. I hope the other guys get a chance to find loving life partners too.

[@Daniel-wz3yv]

It's only the start if SM doesn't abandon Chen like other companies do when their idols end up in a dating scandal, let's hope they won't throw him under the bus and also let's hope k exo-ls will be more supportive and not act so childish.

[@WreathStorm]

It's unlikely that SM will just abandon Chen. The label and the members all were aware of the situation for a VERY long time. If they didn't support him, they would've done something by now.

[@kaninavy3119]

Can you guys maybe in a near future give us a list of your favorite Korean movies?

[@matzakatten]

I'm just here waiting for him and his family to be on The Return Of Superman.

[@annapersson2852]

I remember seeing sighing members at an interview where fans said no to idea of the boys dating / getting married. Which made me sad. I am happy for Chen and i hope the best for him and the other boys. Isn't Exo in a different faze right now anyways since two members in the military and two are in SuperM as well. I hope in the future artist and idols can date and start familys without people demanding they be removed from the groups.

[@salinadeled2629]

Matilda Sundberg I honestly think not a lot of future idols will appear on TROS because of privacy reasons especially the popular ones. I’m pretty they would want to protect their future children from the media for exemple like Rain and kim Tae hee they never revealed their daughters.

[@beta910]

Anna Persson Oh I think I saw that interview! They did it with JYP and JYP was telling the fans that Exo will have to date and get married at some point

[@abbadfatima1239]

I am so excited for MAP OF THE SOUL 7

[@DKDKTV]

who isnt yay

[@SC-sh5jw]

If Chen talked to his label and his members and they were fine with it why freak out?

[@sarahlouise00]

Cranky Potato even if they weren’t fine with it, people shouldn’t freak out. it’s life, a normal milestone a lot of people go through. this behavior from kexo-ls is childish and disgusting.

[@salinadeled2629]

Cranky Potato Because it’s an excuse like it was the same thing with sungmin like fans were digging for excuses to excuse their salty and jealous ass

[@jadeily3662]

@@salinadeled2629 OMG YESS FUK FINALLY SOMEONE BROUGHT SUNGMIN UP!!!!! This is exactly what I have been saying since the news came out. Tbh they should all just do like Eli from Ukiss did lmao left us shookth with his sneak skills🤣🤣

[@SC-sh5jw]

@🤍 yeah well end of the day its not your choice to make, whos to say he can't balance both? His members obviously support him so who is anyone to say that hes hurting the other members careers or halting them in any way? from an outside perspective, to me, it looks like the people who want Chen out of the group are trying to cover up the fact that theyre upset that their weird fantasy of a bunch of hot single men who only live to sing love songs to y/n has been broken by the fact that Chen is a grown ass man who deserves the right to have a family and still pursue his career.

[@kima_95]

@🤍 Well, I see what you're saying and you make logical points, but I just want to say something. For one, EXO is well past their peak/stablity eras. That's not to insult them or say they lack potential even now, however, realistically I would say they are quite established and at a point in their career where they can be comfortable. I say this because of how established they are in South Korea, which is where SM planned to profit from with EXO specifically. Looking at their track record, they've already done the standard for a successful group and more for a 3-5 year senior group. Of course they could always do more, say shoot forvthe stars and try to win different western award shows like Big Bang or BTS, but overseas success was never the goal. SM is perfectly fine with them just having influence in Korea, otherwise they would be doing more for them as far as coverage and promotion go. I mean, sure, they've gone to things like KCON, have overseas tours like every other group, and performed at the Olympics, but that doesn't change the fact that they are marketed to Korea, for Korea. Have been since debut. And so, as I said with them already reaching the standard and beyond for Korea based acts, they can afford to take that time off and continue on being a group focused on solo activities until otherwise. Similarly to most 2nd gen groups before them. Although, knowing how SM exploits their popularity when needed and how much the boys enjoy coming back, I imagine they would have more comebacks than most of these groups. Probably more like Super Junior, forming subunits if they want to do idol/group work and whole group comebacks when possible. It wouldn't be that hard, especially considering that this normally happens anyway, evidence being the time between their comebacks since the beginning. Even more so nowadays with SM debuting overseas based groups and having to juggle them while figuring out older lesser tended to groups. But that's just been my observations as a longtime EXO-L. Personally I don't see the need for him to leave. I would rather he stayed and they tried to work it like UKISS and Eli, I'm thinking solo with no stage time but more TV appearances or even just continuing on with his OST/collabs. But maybe that's just me. 🤔

[@camillegrandfort5640]

omg the fact that chen is going to be a father chocked me but in a good way! he is at the age after all and i'm glad he find is significant other😬! God only knows how being an idol deprives you long enought of developping and nourrishing an healty relationship ! Wish you joy!! CHENCHEN!!

[@leviosalegolas]

BTS have enough pressure on them as it is. Them involving themselves in political issues more directly will just pile on too much pressure, especially now when they have so many eyes on them to the point where political leaders have even asked for them to come to their respective countries... They've been talking about how much of a burden their position can be for quite a while now... It's too much to ask of a group of guys in their 20s. Being a positive influence and empowering individuals IS their way of countering the social and political negativity that we see everyday. Instead of criticising, they're giving people strength to fight it on their own. They're doing way more than enough. Yes they have a HUGE platform that can be put to so many good uses... but we also have to remember that these are just normal young people who also want to have a life outside their work. Weren't the lyrics of Shadow clear enough? Let's give them a bit of a break please.

[@Starcore600]

Yeah, politics can be a horrible minefield. We just need to look at current political leaders and see them fail over and over again to navigate this minefield. And they've been trained for it, with years of experience in previous positions. I really can't blame BTS for treading carefully. Plus, I think that what BTS are doing is just as valuable.They're giving people strength and educating the next generation.

[@ellapetal]

And they are such a huge commodity for South Korea and world representatives for the country, making any kind of overtly political statement could get them in trouble. The blue house has them on speed dial.

[@Chippin05]

I want to just take a moment to appreciate BTS. They are already the biggest band with the biggest fandom. There was absolutely no need to do this thing, but still they invested money, energy and time into this project. This just shows that BTS are true "*Artists*" , who appreciate *ART*

[@therearenogirlsontheinternet_]

No, the idea was Lee Daehyung's and he approached BTS and Bighit about it.

[@charstar386]

"Say something to North Korea." BTS has talked and sung about this issue. Looking forward to Korean unification. They use alot of symbolism to express their beliefs, too, so you have to pay attention.

[@MingukFilms]

LOVE YOURSELF IS NOT the only BTS message! This is the most famous one, but it's not the only one! BTS had a whole lot of content AND messages before the Love Yourself series. Thank you!

[@Plu255]

Literally just came home from watching Parasite,,, I was honestly surprised how many people came (970 seats were filled). Also the movie is definitely one of my favorite movies of all time now, just wow. It definitely deserves the attention it’s getting

[@tibowmew]

I think that BTS and BigHit are actually quite brilliant in their approach to changing the world. Obviously politics has a large place in world order, but BTS chooses to approach people as individuals or small groups of people and empower them to make and become the changes that they want to see in the world. I think BTS's power is in how they inspire the individual to become bigger than themself, and how inclusive they are in everyone. Fans who are contemporary artists may have never expected to be incorporated into the BigHit mix and relate in the way that Connect will allow. They also make people realize that they can follow any dream and use it to inspire and influence others. As long as I've been an ARMY, I'm still absolutely amazed daily at their reach to people personally and the waves that they make in lives.

[@lucreziapaoli51]

"He closed some doors, he opened others"... YESSSS👏🏼👏🏼

[@michellevieiracordeiro]

I love Chen he´s my favorite EXO member and I am very happy for him, I hope he has a happy life with his future wife and child

[@lunacouer]

RM is super into art, so I can see this being his idea, to connect artists together world-wide. ETA: Please read shining summer's comment 👇 for more info 😊 Also, with BTS using books like "Demian" and "Map of the Soul" to influence their music, they've introduced philosophy and psychology to millions of ARMYs. As in, people are reading those books. So encouraging fans to explore modern art sounds right up their alley. Kind of a "Feed Your Soul" campaign. Also, I don't know if you know this, but "Old Boy" is highly recommended by US critics. I've seen it on so many lists, and it's referred to a lot, both its themes and in comparison to other movies. Just wanted you to know, it's very much on the American radar. We stan good movies. :)

[@lunacouer]

@@turquoise2332 I agree whole-heartedly 😊Thank you for the extra insight 💜

[@ramyeon_jjajangmyeon]

International exo-ls and as a multi stan myself(obviously an i-army)....I support Chen and I'm very happy for him and want to sincerely congratulate!! #weloveyouChen #CongratulationsChen

[@99txgh]

In Jungkook's Wings video the painting was painted by Jungkook, it was in a bangtan bomb, so they've contributed to their own MVs/music with painting before

[@Shigoos]

i'm really happy for Chen and i wish him a happy life i hope fans understand that this is his personal life and they have NOTHING to do with it he wasn't force to tell he fans from the very beginning but it's because he love them an respect them and i hope they do so

[@ahdvai2098]

In my experience, the intersection between BTS' audience and art lovers is much bigger than what most would assume, mainly because BTS' love for the arts very much translates to their work. A personal example would be my grandma, who has been a museum curator for over 40 years and has a lot of respect for BTS.

[@kaajalbishnoi978]

The message of BTS Connect hits harder after you've been through 2020

[@nithiyakailasam232]

Last comeback we were only psychology students now we are doing Psychology major with contemporary arts as minor course Being an army means you just get to learn alot and that's what art is and I'm happy BTS is recognizing and making us to learn something new

[@evanuradillah7492]

Actually the reason why int fans are very supportive bcs as you know being a father and having a baby is a blessing not a crime. Whats the matter for being in a group, married and also having a baby? Even a bigger group such as One Direction, 2 out 4 member are having a child and they still have so many fans and even waiting for their comeback every year. Just respect his decision and let him being a responsible person. Because before he is an idol, he is a human too like us, he deserve to be happy the way he wants.

[@bambibam5009]

I‘m also a EXO-L by heart and I love Chen and i couldn’t be happier for him. My boys always deserve the best.

[@aari9756]

Danny I already knew Bighit was gonna do something big like this because you had mentioned it in a previous video about this indirectly. And, since now you spoke about something even bigger coming from BTS in 2021...I'm hyped up and already can't wait 😳

[@nymeria6140]

Those EXO L that are taking Chen news badly , pretend that they care about their Idols but at the end of the day they only care about themselves. Why would you deny a person a life just because you're part of their fandom?! Those idols live crazy lifes, and they need some kind of normality in some part of their life in order to stay sane. Those fan would be the first one to give out about the management company for not taking care of their idols. Let them live their private life in Peace. He obviously talked it out with his members and company. they all know the consequences.

[@Daniel-wz3yv]

They cry crocodile tears when an idol suicides but act like this when they should be blessing Chen, he's not a teenager anymore, he's a grown man and it's completely fine for him to date and marry someone. I swear to god these people commenting must be teenage girls or maybe they're just crazy lol

[@esenciarose580]

I was SHOOK but I am happy happy for him I will STILL STAN EXO and Chen will forever be my bias❤️ idols deserve that love as well I hope in the future this will be less breaking new but good news🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@bb-it4qt]

tbh I can't wait for the next news about Chen and the start of a new chapter in his life, who knows he might appear on return of superman💜💜

[@archanak5933]

Seriously someone in Korea needed to say this publicly. We international exols are continously fighting haters. Thanks man for saying it out there. I respect you and thank you. Chen. We shall never leave you. Love exo.

[@lux3226]

- EXO Chen - his being a part of EXO is up to the members of EXO and their label, the fans have no right to make demands or marketing conclusions - the negative reaction of fans is what creates negative buzz, and loses their contracts - if the fans were nothing but supportive, then there'd be very little difference in their public perception, and they'd remain as marketable as they ever were - it's the fans that make their brand, it's the fans that destroy their brand - non-fans aren't the ones buying the brand in the first place, so their perception makes no difference either way

[@norabeckwith2113]

Well sm will listen to k fans

[@Wendy-jt1ln]

BTS is a very unique group. They taught us many things like music, dance, performance, classic literature, philosophy, sociology, philanthropy, humanity & now intensive art. I benefitted so much for them.

[@Rainorshine004]

I ❤Namjoon :). Good for Chen!! My dudes, I think you all glossed over that one idol talk about her girlfriend and her coming out? You said who cares? Lol. Dude, to me , and im sure to your other lgbtq... And so on fans, this is huge news. I wish you all would have talked about it more. Im very proud of that idols bravery of comming out especially in a very Conservative Korea. Im a member of this community. It is not easy to just say your truth. Just my opinion. That being said , thanks for the video, im still your news fan.🙏

[@Sun-cs5ex]

I think Dany was responding to David saying she got her grammar wrong with "man and women" (I may be wrong tho lol), but I don't think they meant to disrespect her (hopefully)

[@Herbalgalaxii]

i didn't know any of this about chen. congrats to him. honestly i think all idols should be able to have a love life. good luck to him.

[@namelesslovexx]

fans should remember that they're just fans and nothing more. these idols can do whatever they want, they don't owe us anything. know your limit as a fan and support him in whatever decision he makes.

[@kathleenshriver7512]

Work and home are separate things. Nothing needs to change. He is old enough. Mabe he wants to see grandchildren before he's 70. You go chen.

[@rooneyarmy5318]

As an EXOL I'm genuinely happy for Chen and I'll always be.

[@brendamarcus4405]

I think Chen handled this like a man. The woman that will be his wife, is long time girlfriend, not a one night stand. You can tell he loves her very much and will make a great father. Everybody on earth can slip up and it’s their business to give news when they wanted to. You know their are things they could have done, but they want the baby. Be happy for them and let the innocent baby come into the world surrounded by love. Chen does the job he is paid to do, very well, the rest is nobodies business. No telling how many this has happen to, and they made different choice. Wouldn’t want to be them. Much happiness to Chen, wife and baby. Peace and love.

[@TheDivatoni]

Exols we're going to be Aunties!!! Yay!!! Congratulations on having a normal life!!! LOVE YOU CHEN!!! WE ARE ONE!!!!

[@kennyap8554]

I’m watching your channel for the first time, and I totally love it! I’m so happy you have provided an English outlet of the Korean entertainment scene targeting the international audiences. Love what you’re doing and you guys are entertaining presenters too. Keep it up, dudes! 👍🏼😄👏🏼

[@ahjummacjr]

I agree w/ Danny on that spoiler 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@Phoenix-ew8ts]

I am an EXO-L and i have to tell EXO-L that just support our Chen bc i don't think he do anything wrong everyone wants to be a married person. So EXO-L just support our exo and our Chen bc this time to show that we are really a great and good fandom who always support our idols no matter what's the situation We are one

[@jeje.6568]

I’ve read in an article that bts themselves are funding it and not bighit

[@-68]

BTS are doing them. They’re not caring what we want, what we expect of them. Saying they’re just doing it for a certain look is dismissive and just... wrong. We don’t know what they’re thinking, but we see what they’re doing. Enjoy it or don’t enjoy it, it’s up to you. Also it’s been reported that the guys themselves are funding this. Not sure of the nitty gritty of it, but yeah. BTS are doing them, and who gives a crap whether or not we like, enjoy whatever we feel about it, they’re doing them. I love it🥰

[@moonchild1488]

everything BTS does is art so and they themselves are art so yeah attending a BTS concert is like attending a huge ass museum to see this art with music (wich is also art) being performed in front of your eyes

[@margaritaquintanas.8620]

Waaaa, I actually saw Mother in high school. I really really loved it and it was the film that opened me into searching other international films. I'm happy you guys recommended it and will be seeing the other films recommended.

[@hinaness8940]

" she's happy .. who cares " 😂😂😂 i love danny

[@loveitftw]

People also need to remember to be respectful towards Chen and his family now and remember Chen is *only an artist on stage, and nothing more.* Let's be happy for him and show respect.

[@yadetrinh]

*k-exols be toxic thoe*

[@kpoptrash4085]

Yoongi my luv yeah

[@hinata1386]

Not all of us. K EXOL be hateful

[@Takerz13]

I mean I understand a bit because Chens ex was ugly and a gold digger so people are protective of him. He keeps getting scammed and it's sad

[@veeinh]

dave. Still better looking than you

[@yadetrinh]

its a joke, ik there are k-exols that accept it and keep supporting :))

[@simplybeeda]

Celebrities are human before they are celebrities, but people forget this and treat them as property. Chen is a grown man let him live. As someone who supports EXO I'm happy for him. I wish him and the rest of the members all the best.

[@armystayengene3148]

Watched Parasite today and loved it. Saw Oldboy last year and man I was so damn shocked by the ending.. Would have never expected that ending. 😂😂

[@gloria7190]

22:45 David are you talking about the Medici family? 😂 As an italian I love the reference. BTS the Medici of the 21 century

[@newchannel7523]

Enoi! Yes! Thank you for giving them attention!

[@BTSARMY-cz9qm]

Just when I feel that BTS couldn't get more amazing, then they go and blow my mind again. I have learned so much about my own self (mentally) since supporting and understanding the messages through their music. Reading the books they recommend, etc.....I can't wait for more.

[@lenaxyz2458]

I really love the idea of Connect BTS and the things released so far sound very interesiting but everything is so far away from where I live....

[@nl4278]

The group at the beginning was so cute and seeing their dance studio made me teary eyed. Hope many good things come their way!

[@peachyx5081]

watch all these kpop celebs gonna get bold bold now this year LOL

[@Daniel-wz3yv]

Let's hope so, maybe this could be the start of a new era for kpop idols having a romantic life without needing to hide and eventually being caught by these crazy tabloids

[@jumpsuitgirl3835]

Thank you BTS for introducing me to all these new things, new worlds even, I wouldn't be discovering without you. 💜🙏

[@darlenisandoval8432]

Chen should not leave Exo. These "fans" really take things to the extreme. In my opinion a true fan supports and cheers for their artist instead of cutting them off quickly. My reason for him not to leave is because this boy needs to make money to support his new family. Who knows if he can get a job right away if he does leave.

[@booth284]

Music and art have always crossed borders in the past this collab is one of the best ways to show our youth today the issues in our lives and the way to to accept the diverse world we live in that our technology has brought to fore.

[@tracyash4475]

Exo Chen is a human. Let him be a Father and get married and be happy. It's don't mean he has to leave Exo just because his a human being.

[@rsaarmy5902]

The best way to watch Parasite is to go in blind. It's such a great movie, especially when you don't know where it's going. Definitely one of my top 10 favourite movies of all time

[@camch1295]

Finally the Korean film industry is getting the relevance and appreciation that deserves.

[@Koakoa45]

As an artist I am excited about Connect BTS. Music also has so much art in it, the cinematography, backdrops, and concept art. Putting them together makes sense to me.

[@37373dbdbbdfb]

BTS members have spoken about the "crazy people", the sasaengs, etc.

[@AJSP80]

K-Pop idols are humans too. They have the whole right to have personal life. Fans needs to stop thinking that because they go to their concerts, they buy their music it means they can OWN the idol. Good for Chen and happy to hear the news

[@charstar386]

Danny: That's only something BIghit could do. *salivating for the day they offer public stock options.*

[@Mona-sg8ec]

I was so happy when I heard the news of Chen but I wasn't expecting the hate he got... Chen deserves better tbh k exo-l should remove shit from their heads all k fans needs to understand that any celebrity got family or partner they should be happy and wish them luck that's it celebrities are not slaves for fans

[@pineapple1612]

Where are these delusional and mean “fans”... Here on KZbin as well as an Instagram I only read nice and congratulating comments on Chens great news... I think especially the international fans are very happy for Chen!

[@sunnatirao8422]

Many ARMYs have cancelled this channel, but I still watch their content coz it's quality and informative.

[@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel]

well BTS is very international now so I believed that they are more effective in making the individual empowered to make change rather than putting the focus back on individual governments/ politics.

[@mayavril1]

You guys are hilarious. I love how you go back and forth e.g. Great content

[@vecteurchance8073]

Bong joon ho is from far away one of the best film makers of this time, the majority of his movies are must-watch. Korea have some great movie, and in my opinion (student in cinema), it's the most (or one of the most) interesting country in cinema now.

[@guesswhobtch232]

I like how you can tell that David is sincere when he talks about BTS and how he actually thinks before speaking💜