SUPER M is a TERRIBLE IDEA? / More YG Troubles... / BTS on Vacation / [D-K News]

[@Aisha-mv4bd]

Someone give Sarah a cookie the editing is hilarious 😭

[@cheryldailey5310]

A cookie? She deserves a raise! :)

[@legendendarynrr6500]

its one time life opportunity to meet rm so if I happens to meet joonie I would at least take a selfie with him although I should respect their privacy

[@DKDKTV]

Sarah only deserves a cookie. No raise.

[@cheryldailey5310]

@@DKDKTV It better be a damn good cookie then! 😜

[@Insideranon]

Sarah: Okay... what do we have for... oh god what have I gotten myself into... I love when the editors throw shade at the youtubers through editing XD

[@w.iroses]

If YG wants to spend that money on my college tuition instead of gambling that would be great.

[@teamazay8198]

4q..

[@tobijaiyeoba7085]

Dorothy Stevenson same sis

[@vickysmith9705]

that would be great

[@joycedjikeng4825]

PREACH IT!!!!!!

[@SIDMI101]

That would be the smartest thing they'll ever do in their lives. Yes

[@YeLLowCarDxGirL]

No one: Absolutely No one: YG: *Buys a shovel to keep digging himself and the company into a deeper hole*

[@elora512]

He bought a 1M USD shovel

[@kpopsicle9119]

@@elora512 he probably bought a gold shovel at that, no, not just one shovel, but 2 shovels at that. One named Seungri and the other RatG.

[@elora512]

@@kpopsicle9119 Oof. Well you know what they say, "You haven't hit rock bottom if you're still able to dig"

[@froggies4044]

@Soru7 did they ever mention anything about the artist itself??? No

[@marywilliams6079]

@Soru7 so are you saying the Korean police lies?? They're investigating him right now and he's even no longer the CEO.. Chill

[@shanabarwari8892]

BRO I HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT TOO! WHENEVER BTS COMES BACK, YG RELEASES NEWS OF BLACKPINK COMEBACK. When bts is going to the US, bp goes too!!! I completely agree with the fact that people try to ride on bts hype

[@shanabarwari8892]

Margaret Kim i hate it when they try to ride off bts’ hype. Like f off pls

[@erickamayglumalid330]

100% right. And blinks says that bts was the one who's copying bp link bruhh u need a brain?

[@taketwo9623]

@@erickamayglumalid330 Oh please , BTS have nothing to copy from them

[@erickamayglumalid330]

@@taketwo9623 My point.

[@taketwo9623]

@@erickamayglumalid330 Bro, did u notice that the intro of ice cream sounds like BTS 2nd grade ?! Like c'mon ?!

[@seemebeme1020]

The main thing that doesn’t really make sense to me about debuting SuperM in the US right away, is that Korea knows this group is special & international kpop fans know this group is special, but to the general public in America they will be “just another kpop boy group.” One of their key strengths (recognition/respect/reputation) is kind of wasted in the states. (& then a side note would be, aren’t baekhyun, Taemin & Kai all pretty close to military service?)

[@michaelscarnscott]

Baek is really close... I would think by the end of next year potentially. Kai & Taemin are 2 years younger.

[@eu9ne]

wow this is so true! A 'super' group in kpop is just another kpop group in the us. i would compare this situation to snsd's tiffany having to redebut and start from nothing after being a part of the most successful kpop girl group. nct 127 will have some previous fans but you are so right when you say that they are wasting their reputation in the industry on a market that doesn't care; even if they are talented (and boy are they talented...)

[@seemebeme1020]

Ruby Suho oh okay thank you for the info :), yeah unless they’re literally just trying to use his specific face & name, it doesn’t make sense to redebut him and then lose the groups main vocal like a year later (not that the others can’t sing, or that baekhyun isn’t super talented in other areas as well, cuz he is, but he’s the only one who’s MAIN position is vocals, while the others MAIN positions are dance, rap, or visual, So hows that gona work when he has to leave?)

[@tchellenunya7561]

Americans who are into Kpop know who Baekhyun and Kai and Taemin are believe me! It wont be just an unrespected group here. I am slayed by the line up and will fully support them and share their work with everyone I know. I will be promoting them from my little corner of the world. I think it is sad that so called 'fans' would boycott their idol's projects, all that does is make the artist look bad and make all their hard work go to waste....people need to get over themselves and support the work of the ones the love to watch!

[@seemebeme1020]

Tchelle McKay that’s why I said Korea AND international kpop fans know them, but it may or may not be enough to get the rest of the US’s attention the way they want, we’ll have to see. Either way the boycotts are definitely ridiculous, and I’ll be supporting SuperM as well :) I just don’t think SM has a good understanding of the US so I hope they are careful with the decision making for this group. Anyway SuperM fighting!

[@w.iroses]

SuperM? Of all the names that they could have come up with they decided on SuperM.....tragic What would the fandom be named?

[@kabu_jpeg]

kskgdjgj right?!!

[@jasminchen9408]

Dorothy Stevenson I read it as sperm I’m also not wearing my glasses but like whyyyyyy😂

[@w.iroses]

cyphe shit they are hella talented and that’s why it’s tragic that they couldn’t have come up with something better.

[@w.iroses]

Multifandom Newbie lmao that’s why they underlined the U otherwise it would be read as sperm smh SM do better!

[@noticingjournal]

suing if the fandom name isn't sperm

[@v4leree]

i'm gonna cringe if they go to an american show and they ask them which avenger each one is lmao

[@shamidkpzd]

Omg no. Don't even speak (type) that into existence lol.

[@ajyyyvl]

valjrmr actually I want them to just so that they can use it as a ridicule (IF, I’m being optimistic) whenever they don’t live up to that title.

[@w.iroses]

AJ VargaLuna a little harsh don’t you think 😂

[@ajyyyvl]

Dorothy Stevenson yea sorry i realize that. I was pissed SM decided to start another group when they already have NCT going and don’t promote them enough. And if they debut in October and BTS has a comeback, then in America they will just gain clout. But really I do want them to do well and I’m actually really excited for their debut. The Avengers of Kpop sound pretty dope and idk I might actually stan.

[@w.iroses]

AJ VargaLuna tbh I wasn’t excited either and you are right they shouldn’t have announced they were the avengers in kpop. Imagine all that pressure on them just so SM can gain money. Smh.

[@dananguyen8912]

these Kpop companies are trying to force Kpop into the American market and it is just not happening. I think they want the same level as success as bts is having in the American market rn but the thing is that bts’ success wasn’t really forced but it just happened and it seems genuine. but idk I’ll see how this goes 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

[@maricabaldassarra3334]

Preach💅

[@carelle5207]

You took the words right outta my mouth...

[@txtbtsarmy3165]

Ikr😅😅😅 but i wish them luck

[@yapimangfi3949]

True Shit!!!

[@kakik6519]

just what I was thinking. I think that they will have a succes, saying the profil of the members. But as succeful as BTS? IDK

[@9837765657]

I very much agree with ‘BTS opening gate’. They are the one who shook Kpop from the bottom and all kpop companies woke up with a jerk. And they see that BTS is already sitting on the very top. I really wish BTS remain on top as long as they want and all army are with them forever. David reaction on meeting Teahyung during holidays will be same as mine. I will try not to disturb but I don’t know how to hold back myself.

[@tushargrover2010]

Tashi Yangzom If you find any BTS members and they have an eye contact with you, maybe you could just show them a Korean heart. It wouldn’t be that big of a deal, and would be a really heartwarming gesture in my opinion.

[@Insideranon]

I think they more so kicked the door open. Psy had a one hit wonder in the states and that's something that americans love for some reason... but the huge example definitely came from bts.

[@9837765657]

Tush agustD Thats a good gesture. May be for next 2 months I will carry a small Purple Heart with me all the time hehe...

[@9837765657]

MTOARTofficial Yes, Psy did knock US market once and some did open. BTS has just crashed the door down for any Kpop to enter freely.🙏🏻

[@tushargrover2010]

MTOARTofficial I used to listen to Gangnam style a lot back when it initially came out but most people including me didn’t even know that it was K-pop. But today, BTS has kind of made K-pop relevant, recognisable and to some extent mainstream.

[@skyemiques9608]

On one hand, I see so many western reactors asking why the English speaking music makers and entertainers can't be as good as many of the Kpop groups, so there might be an opening in the market there. On the other hand, as much as I like BTS's music, I think for many people in the US, their story is what got them so popular. The music may have caught people's eye but when they look into the group further is when they fall into the rabbit hole. Americans absolutely love an underdog and BTS are the epitome of fighting from the ground up under fire. It would be very difficult, and frankly cruel, for their story to be purposely replicated by another group.

[@Insideranon]

Yeah... I mean, yea... that's a damn good explanation to be honest lol. I think Psy being a one hit wonder in the states helped too though. I just hope like hell that america doesn't do what america does best and destroy kpop... Then again they're doing a great job at it so far -.- anywho, keep rockin Skye! (like the name btw)

[@skyemiques9608]

@YourМилк Calling someone delusional because you disagree with them isn't a very polite thing to do. Much of what you said may be true but if you look at most of the online content put out by fans, their story is a classic Cinderella story. And I did say that their music is what catches the eye. At no point did I downplay their talent or hard work. Be nicer to people, it will come back to you in the long run.

[@alperry02]

I've seen the media talk about bts underdog story. Honestly I agree with OP. It's one of the many reasons people like them. I can go down the list of reasons but I think most fans know. Anyway, the point is bts is a group and individuals cant be exactly replicated.

[@bluestaes4015]

@@alperry02 can u pls tell the reasons?

[@fictionlover2064]

@@bluestaes4015 Not the one who initially stated it , but some of the reasongs people like BTS are : good music , good choreographies , excellent rap line and vocal line with distinctive vocal colours , interesting and various personalities , Participation of the members in producing - writing , nice and universal message , some social critique , lots of content , references and interesting storyline , real sincerity and hard work , the underdog appeal and great and sincere chemistry and interactions.

[@kiwitealc5353]

On the topic of Super M: First of all, why is no one talking about how Super M abbreviated is SM? Seems like that's the reason behind the name. Ok, so I am all for experimentation and the idea seems fun, but there does seem to be something off about the whole thing. I don't stan any SM groups, so I'm not an expert, but I think I am familiar enough to put these thoughts out there. To me, making a combined group gives me the impression that SM artists are interchangeable/replaceable, or at least the company considers the artists to be interchangeable. It also makes it seem as though the group divisions are somewhat arbitrary, and no thought about who works well together or who complements each other went into the process of debut-ing groups. To add on to that, Shinee, Exo, and NCT make very very different music. I would say especially NCT, who make some stuff that is really not like most kpop. So when SM decides to mix and match artists that make very different music, it makes it seem as though the artists have little ownership over the music they make. It seems like they only do a particular style of music because they happened to be thrown into a group doing that music. I guess we will just have to wait and see! Even with these concerns, I will definitely give Super M the benefit of the doubt and give their music a try.

[@salmashire5771]

Thank you for mentioning the sm thing, that’s the first thing that came to my mind when I first saw it!!

[@christianaserwaah2905]

Kiwi Tealc I dont know what the heck SM is doing honestly. like the sound and style of music that i associate with NCT, EXO and Taemin are completely different and theyre going to be pandering to an American audience so i wonder if their debut song is going to be; a style that none of the artists have done before, a song that characteristically sound like any kpop song, a weird combination of what the artists have done before, or something that sound like a any american pop song. Also hearing that they're gonna be debuting a new group when they cant even get their stuff together for the existing group they have make me worried. Like you said experimenting is fun and all that but this convoluted collaboration between the groups doesn't seem like it had been properly well prepared for.

[@w.iroses]

Kiwi Tealc I also think they all have such difference stage presence and music styles that will outshine one another. Being in a group means you should not outshine each other individual but be one whole. I think having such powerful people together will definitely outshine one another.

[@kure3337]

I think the abbreviation of SuperM = SM is so obvious that people more focus on the Sp*rM jokes(?) I personally think they could be more creative about the name playing with the abbreviation tho, since there's Super Junior already, idk maybe SM team has some attachment to the word "Super" like they think it would make it cooler if they use it or something??? Or maybe because there IS SuJu as their predecessor, using the same first name will make ppl more familiar??? I'm not sure... Totally agree about your opinion about the music! Each groups have their own colors I hope they could mix it together without forgetting each other's colors

[@lenn452]

about the replaceability of idols - honestly that's the first thing I thought about when I heard the news. Like if feels as if the label is just moving their pieces (idols) on their chessboard. Not matching the style/music with the person but vice versa. They already have some styles and music in mind and they just give it to any idol who is popular. It almost feels like the idols are puppets and not people :/

[@reemcont]

sm decided to create superm group to promote in the u.s? they already have nct promoting in the u.s, sm could promote exo in u.s, too. also i prefer taemin as solo artist now.

[@jintheprince3991]

Think of it this way .. this group will try and then it will be scraped in a month or soo because me personally .. I don’t see it happening

[@marmar9957]

Does exo have English speakers? Except for Lay?. Who’s hardly in their music videos now a days.

[@jintheprince3991]

e. True

[@w.iroses]

B • T why can’t SM push Red velvet into western media? Wouldn’t it be dope if SM gave that same attention to red velvet.

[@jummpingboasince0741]

Agree with Taemin as just a solo artist.

[@pooccinos2144]

I agree with danny.. NCT WAS GOOD!! WHY SM WHYYYYY

[@yolandaperry86]

Exactly! NCT 127's popularity is growing organically and now SM is starting with this mess smh. All I know is that when Super M debuts they better come with the most fire music ever in order to live up to "the avengers of kpop" tagline that SM is trying to sell. Even if they do come out with good music they are still going to have to compete with BTS in western mainstream media and I'm not sure that they can win that battle.

[@michaelscarnscott]

NCT still exists! And still will

[@astitchaway07]

Was? You mean are.

[@zen-oh9808]

Guys chill it's just a collaboration...it's not like SM is expecting this to be a worldwide group

[@annietamuk5405]

@@zen-oh9808 Well superM is a permanent group tho... Not a simple collaboration..

[@mikanchan322]

SM is trying so hard by just haphazardly throwing their most popular artists into one group..

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

Discount Xiumin Yes it is like a desperate double or nothing gamble move. You truly wonder if it will be successful or not.

[@thedarkopz516]

@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj DESPERATE JUST LIKE AEW

[@purphummus]

Yes yes and yes omg

[@lawyerwhowantstosueminyoon5743]

and it is FAIL

[@ferinarindhi9461]

The most popular? Isn't chanyeol more popular than both baek and kai tho lol

[@deborahphillips9890]

BTS happened organically. It seems when companies and media markets really try a push it always seems to backfire here.

[@kxltte]

i just feel like the debut of super m will contribute more to the narrative that kpop groups are just a marketing ploy and disingenuous. Bts worked hard to strip that narrative and all of a sudden we're going to get articles of a group that was specifically made to appeal to the US market. I really hope both groups are kept far from each other in terms of artistry and content.

[@starworld0000]

karen n yep this new group is everything westerners dont like manufactured, put together, given a name they probably didnt choose for themselves. Like sm has done it all wrong for years and they still dont get it, they dont get why its bts but the answer is so obvious

[@loursfloral5409]

Yes exactly, BTS have much more meaning and value. They do not correspond to the Kpop industry, they are much more precious. Their special story, their personalities developed through this hardship. It is genuinely what makes them so much different. The SM super group seems fake, the company want what BTS has and I hope they won't succeed because it's for the wrong reasons. I hope people will always see the difference between BTS and others.

[@loursfloral5409]

Black To Grace I disagree, many groups seems like puppets for a business, and the businesses companies themselves are kind of creepy to me. When I say that I think about the different mentality of Bighit, Bang pd knows how dark and bad people in the industry can be, he wants to do differently, I support that, that's also why Bts is different. If the companies support their artist in a good way like Bigit then yes.

[@kxltte]

@Black To Grace nah bts weren't put together for the sole purpose of succeeding in the west. theres a huge difference between bts upbringing and organic success and sm wanting a taste of it. bts are in very high demand, of course they are now marketed heavily. they are the biggest boy group in the world. why else do you think other groups are unable to reach the same lengths as bts?

[@gloria7190]

You took the words out of my mouth

[@hanibeeez]

Calling them the “Avengers of kpop” is a huge statement and if they don’t live up to that, then that will be Super embarrassing. Also not to forget that the kmedia already called BTS “Avengers in the music industry” back in April. Anyways I wish them all the best and most of the members are my biases

[@senisvault]

Bangtan kookie its funny because they chose the most liked and popular member from respective bands. Kinda seems odd

[@SpookyDarling]

I think you mean Super Mbarassing 😂

[@thesiiiiickest]

Avengers of SM, not kpop. They are SM's super group.

[@emilyparker5728]

I swear every single music industry in the world, not only korean is coming for BTS and their name, fame and records... like for once can anyone acknowledge that it isn’t possible for a “next BTS” ... even BigHit can never come up with the next BTS

[@Jk-ey7mp]

@@senisvault and literally taeyong(probably one of the most known member in sm) literally got almost all positions hes also lead vocalist (i think) when theres also baekhyun. Like they didnt think strategically about it (like who could be a good vocal in superm, and who'd be a great dancer) they just thought let me get the most known members in some groups it doesnt matter if they're all singers dancers or rappers we'll make them one

[@jeonggukjeon9341]

9:56 David: *I really enjoyed the statement from Big Hit.* YES!!! I ALSO DO!!! (^_^) believe it or not Danny, i was reading it on repeat the day it was released hahahaha that's HOW I ENJOY IT! hahaha

[@sage6861]

What is with sm's obsession with making a "super group"? They should focus fostering and further developing the amazing groups they already have. PS: Sarah is the real mvp.

[@snehasalvatore4365]

0:32 Yg caught gambling 7:38 BTS on vacation 12:35 SUPER M

[@kylie1982]

What I've learned from the latest years in America's music industry is, America loves self-produced or self-written artists. Taylor Swift, Billie Eilish, Ariana Grande etc. and non-American like Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber, etc. Notice how the most famous musicians can write and produce their own songs? And I think that's why BTS could get very famous in the US. BTS can wrote the whole album by themselves, and they told people their stories with the song they've written. They dont rely on the company for songs, because they can make it on their own.

[@mammamiaaaaaa-t5i]

Sm is trying to come for Bts with that “avengers” of kpop. A success as big as Bts in the states won’t happen again for a while if it happens at all.

[@mg137b]

What is wrong with every kpop artist from big 3 try to promote to America and suddenly get compare to BTS? U dont see that with underrated or least popular group.

[@SlavicRat]

If I was SM I'd debut a great group AFTER BTS go attend their military service And I wouldn't debut guys like that because they have their schedule too and Taemin is going to military soon too So SM, LMAO YOU MAKE A MISTAKE

[@SierraSl]

annie v. I honestly can’t even be mad bc I feel like Sm is trying to aim for that. I honestly don’t understand why are they debut in US. I don’t even like when kpop group come to America bc American can be harsh sometimes. I even question some of there members choice. Why did they pick mark when nct has many other members? And also why did they put Lucas and ten as wayv when there both were in nct u?

[@w.iroses]

Sierra aren’t Lucas and ten wayv because they are both from China and wayv is specifically for their Chinese members? Low key feel win win should have been in this SuperM lineup.

[@mg137b]

@@SierraSl so what is wrong with SM trying to promote or debut in america? They have been doing it since long ago and this is just a good opportunity. If they do with money yeah ofc they are not charity company. They are not even debuting yet yall just complaining and compared to BTS.

[@catmanbaby]

David, FYI Twice announced their comeback date before BTS all the way back in February. Not sure why BTS and BlackPink also came out a week apart. Probably due to concert schedules but I don't think it was strategic for any of the companies to all come out around the same time unfortunately.

[@DKDKTV]

Sorry! Thanks for correcting my mistake! I admit I messed up my timeline. TWICE did comeback one week before. BUT basically, I was just getting on the overall point that those groups came in the same period. However, (it is all theory) but im pretty affirmative that the major ent. companies/kpop music industries know when each other are going to comeback internally WAY before they announce the dates publicly. Even music distribution companies get prior notice on the plans.

[@kelseymcguire4165]

@@DKDKTV just like the movie industry and their counter programming. Marvel has announced movies on the same day as DC movie just to draw attentiom amd excert their power and force warner bros to reschedule

[@BlackBlack-hz5my]

YG released a statement last January about their artist comeback, BP comeback should be mid or late March (as a YG stan, we dont believe as long as we saw the teaser) but i think the issue about seungri affect their comeback date.

[@adesolaoghenekevwe7264]

Jeri Taylor you are mistaken bts always has their comeback April and October ... it’s something that always happen like that every year so bts didn’t decide impromptu it’s always like that ..

[@kirampd4545]

@@adesolaoghenekevwe7264 And Twice always has a comeback around late April/early May since their debut, so what? I hardly think either are affected by each other, especially considering that their target audience is so different.

[@Leviathiccness]

as an international fan, i can tell you that the current international fan reactions to SuperM are not good. I dont think they will have the success they're expecting. Whatever BTS produces will overshadow SuperM and swallow the group's debut. I dont think SM thought the idea through very well honestly. NCT & Blackpink tried but the level of hype around them isnt enough to sustain. I predict it will be the same for SuperM. Not because of anything they're lacking. But because the US isnt ready to open its doors completely to kpop. Even BTS aren't taken seriously in american interviews. As much as I want more kpop here. I don't think it can fully transition. Especially not to BTS's level. Also do they not realize superM sounds insanely close to sperm?

[@Rizzle878]

Kristen Snell YES finally someone else says it! All I can see is sperm when it’s written out😂

[@Valentina-lu7kf]

I think bp can easily gain success with the Next comeback, but That's it. BTS and BP that's the number of kpop groups (2) that USA are going to support at the fullest capability. I still think that USA market does not work like japanese market or korean market the number of groups that make it big Will be always one or two, korean or not.. USA music market is for soloist Singers or rappers and bands (imagine dragons, panic at the disco, maroon 5). Maybe when BTS Will fade away.. (but I don't see it happening very soon honestly).

[@Leviathiccness]

@@Valentina-lu7kf Exactly. As an American I can say the musical market is hard to break into. BP won't last through the fiasco that is YGE honestly. I think TXT has a chance but that's only because of their connection with BTS and the quite large size of their fan base. But even they won't have the impact that BTS does in the US. Once BTS fades the market may take another group, but I'm not sure. Marketing towards the US has been the detriment of many kpop groups in the past from big 3 companies. I could be wrong, I want to be wrong because kpop is full of amazing music. But you're right, you can't market kpop to America the way you can market it to Japan or China. Psy only made it cause the video was funny. Not because people understood his music. That's the sad truth of most American listeners. If it's not funny or not in English, many people won't listen. Some probably because of racism but many more because we have our own up and coming artists hitting the same type of music style. It sucks. But it's true.

[@Valentina-lu7kf]

@@Leviathiccness yes! I'm not American but I can tell that all the things you said up here are sooo true!! I totally agree with you.

[@Leviathiccness]

@@Valentina-lu7kf America has a group limit too ya know. If you think about the boy groupsand girl groups that made it into American pop the ones that would stand out the most to you are the spice Girls, the backstreet Boys, and NSYNC. Each of which has less than seven members.I'm not saying that seven is the specific number just because of the group I'm just saying that larger groups don't catch the eye of Americans because in our opinion that's not a band that's a show. There's so much going on and there's so many parts & people that many Americans don't want to take the time to focus on all the little parts & people and see so much that's going on. I personally enjoy a lot of groups but I can see what's happening with the actual Market in America. And if you think about it BTS may be very very huge but BTS still is not as big as the major names in our own pop industry. For example, many non-kpop American fans know BTS but everybody knows Ariana Grande even if they don't listen to her. I would love more kpop, but the US market won't ignore its own pop artists to make room for foreign ones to take over. We could consider it its own genre, but the language barrier and some people's small mindedness will always be an effect that prohibits growth. Sadly. But I hope the best for superM because I Stan the groups they're from and I know they're going to be amazing. But if they release right when BTS gets out of their Hiatus. Then their debut will be completely swallowed by anyting BTS does in the American Market.

[@antidot392]

Blinks:Blackpink gets too much hate for nothing. Armys: No it's BTS who gets lot of hate without doing anything. SUPERM: *HOLD MY PREDUBUT DISBANDMENT PARTY*

[@skeletonflower_]

I have never seen so much hate towards any group even before their debut. People should at least give them a chance to DO ANYTHING before hating them.

[@puilamchan7397]

@@skeletonflower_ that's because that's not an original group, but members from several groups being put together almost for no reasons. So the members own fans will hate it too. Who else can love this group then?

[@reconnu3126]

I don't think that their getting hate. I just think that people are critiquing SM for creating SuperM

[@antidot392]

@@skeletonflower_ count me in. I am also exited to see Bacon and Lucas ruining Americans' eardrums and TaeKai breaking American interview sets.

[@skeletonflower_]

@@antidot392 Now I got even more excited 😂😂 The US won't know what hit them

[@taki1255]

I lowkey think that if the debut song doesn't vibe with the general US public their US debut wouldn't be as big as they think 😕 Edit: Kpop doesn't have a specific sound but SM groups do. If they change it simply to try to fit in the western market they risk the chance of not standing out (Regular by NCT 🤐). But if they stick to their original sound but change the format into something more digestible (i.e. the verse to pre-chorus to chorus transitions are the strangest things. That edm edge-lord sound that NCT has pobably needs to go. Emphasis on probably), they could make it. A good example is Superhuman by NCT. That song could be a huge success in the US. If they continue along their newfound path they have a chance.

[@cofyeet]

No cap no shade but like wbk even if it is a bop they probs wont pop like bts in America

[@starworld0000]

Nahh their groups as a whole dont have a strong footing in the US, u mesh 7 guys from different groups who the GP have no idea who they r its not gonna go well. Like why r they supposed to care abt this group when all of it is so inauthentic

[@taiyonatiare7918]

i dont think theyre gonna be as big as they think they are even if things go well. companies that are trying to force things just end up ruining it. bts and blackpink did so well in the US because they US market was basically gagging for it. i dont think the same can be said for superm.

[@faithcarponelli]

My biggest fear is that they'll just start dishing out western music "to vibe with the general us public". BTS is so successful because they don't really do Kpop anymore. Would be a shame to lose this perfect chance to mash some of the most talented sm artists together, by having them make us pop music.

[@kiannaticsaymacapagal4258]

Faith, bts dont do kpop anymore? Lol their songs is still in korean

[@Multibiatcheyy]

I'm really hyped and worried for Super M. First of all the name sounds so cringe for a western audience, I can see ppl not taking it seriously just cause it has the word super in the name. I know all the fans of shinee and exo especially are upset but I really hope everyone still tries to support them. American labels can be pretty brutal as well and I don't want them all to get overworked and managed wrong and have cringe concepts but if on top of that all the fandom fans don't support them it'll be so demeaning. I really wish them the best I know they're gonna get a bunch of bts comments and comparisons and the society can be cruel and racist so I really hope fans have their back. I can't wait to see what they have to bring but I also know it might not be so catchy to begin with because sm likes going in odd directions with songs like with NCT and red relvet. If they have a tour im for sure going no matter what. And I hope to see interactions with bts because a lot of them are friends except NCT members I think. And I hope there won't be a bunch of fanwars.

[@drawde2000]

👏👏👏👏. Best thing I've read in this comment section. I think if they have a killer song, then everything will work into place.

[@samanthat575]

In terms of the name, for me it’s not even cringe it’s the fact that SM already has Super Junior and Super Junior-M. Could they really not have given this new group a more original one lmao

[@kaiw.m.1472]

the reason the name is so cringe is because its only one letter away from sperm and i know most english speakers read it that way first (at least i did lol)

[@Laurakate_xo]

Exactly if you’re a fan of EXO & SHINee then support them. EXO are enlisting one by one. By the time they all finish with the military it’s unlikely that they would all ever regroup anyways. You might as well class them as disbanded now. All good things come to an end. Plus I’m sure the members are all excited and happy to move on to the next step in their careers. This is a good opportunity for Baekhyun & Kai to debut & promote in America. Something they didn’t really get a chance of doing in EXO.

[@Multibiatcheyy]

@@Laurakate_xo yea I agree they won't have more than one comeback anyways so might as well enjoy the group while we can. I mean look at snsd sub group GGoh they had one song no promo still did well and no news of when they will ever comeback. I just hope they don't get stuck in America for two years straight until one of them has to enlist. All I can think of is CL she performed everywhere and worked so hard ppl were getting worried for her. She was getting so overworked which I'm afraid might happen to super m.

[@jorge3234]

Entertainment companies: BTS is gone let's start dropping comebacks, we finally have a chance.

[@w.iroses]

Jorge Correa 😂😂 honestly tho

[@tushargrover2010]

True

[@kpossibles]

Me panicking if my bias group (NU'EST) will have a comeback at the same time as BTS though

[@Caliprimitive]

😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@eilaffarah1016]

@@neonoires WAIT!!.... They're coming back!!!! WHEN??? How come i don't know???😲😲😲

[@monkeysan7065]

I may not be a hard BTS Stan even I can see people's hipocracy here, I remember how certain fandoms called bts being westernised but kept quite when their faves started singing in English, and now a group is debuting directly debuting in USA with english songs, Now that's what u call seeking validation. When bts fans say BTS paved the way I believe it, now its like inkigayo lineup for American TV shows and interviews. And all those ppl who accused bts of western validation are keeping quiet. About super M. They might succeed as they have good vocalists but they're singing in English?? Don't mean to be racist but when kpop idols sing in English I barely understand them and it sounds weired plus the choreographys look weired. Then they have military coming up so like they have a year to be sucessful?? If that's so, then that's not going to happen. I can just see super in every TV shows, magazines, literally everywhere in America next year since they're backed up by a US label. Even if they gain popularity, their success won't be organic. Oh and all the groups from sm can say buy to their faves cb as sm is going to focus more on this new group. SM is desperate and I really think they're trying to overthrow BTS, to do that they'd need more than a year, as BTS is somewhat an established group there. And I have a feeling Korean fans and k netz aren't gonna like this idea either,

[@Lola-jr3qg]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@kimjanie5442]

Question..... Are u a journalist cuz you're good at this.

[@hellostranger2012]

I think kpop market has become more saturated. BTS Ceo made a smart move by targetting US. late but othr companies are realizing the importance of international market & fan support eg Blackpink, GOT7, ATEEZ. BUT a big BUT u can't expect a thing from SM- SHITTY MANAGEMENT. SuperM is only promoted by American label. thnx to that company we are getting Shinee EXO NCT together

[@hellostranger2012]

KOREA never cares a damn about western market. Groups that are popular in china japan korea are not promoted in US. TVXQ rules Japan. EXO rules CHINA KOREA. GOT7 china. BTS global mainly bcz of its popularity in US. we tend to follow western culture

[@destinationaddictionsamsar7894]

We have to remember that Bts were in America L,A in 2014 studying hip hop and R&b ect from Coolio and some others they just didn't pop up in America nor forced their way in. It just flowed that way and Army were the reason they were on American shows. In 2017 is when they got recognized by the American public. So for this new group with not that many fans to come out and expect to even be the slightest of known like bts is than they better have a good song. Another thing is America doesn't care about visuals and manufactured songs nor a childish name like that. Not to mention they're nobodies in America their fancy titles of lead singer, best dancer ect from their other groups is thrown in the garbage they only ones who would be hyped about it is kpop fans and not the American public. I really hope they don't become the laughing stock and ruin it for all the other groups. Not to mention some of the members for SuperM are going to military next year🤐

[@Rosa-nr9tr]

Army Animal Nerd MyDays ok but nobody but kpop fans care about BTS either. The only reason they’re on shows or anything is because of kpop fans not actual westerners. It’s just their fan base who promote them.

[@riyawww879]

@@Rosa-nr9tr just putting it out, i am not into kpop at all. But i am an army (bts fan). So there are a lot of people who are not into kpop and are just fans of BTS.

[@kimberlylopez5524]

‘Twenties = sex drive’ killed me 😂😂 Edit: but yes, I am super happy that the boys get the time off that they deserve so very much💜.

[@kheshirekat9623]

Whoever this Sarah is, I like her

[@missb5553]

David can resist RM's beauty like 50%, but not with Tae, David is star-struck or more like kinda LOVE-struck😍. Good job editor 👏👏👏

[@crisc1107]

If BTS comeback in October then that means their break will be less than 2 months. 🤔 They will need to prepare for their comeback.

[@drawde2000]

They will be on vacation till middle of September. Their national holiday is on September 13th. So, they should be back to work after that. They will have enough time to prepare for the comeback.

[@ipromisethatserendipityisa9656]

Im guessing late Oct or early November. Why? Because AMA is early November..

[@crisc1107]

@@ipromisethatserendipityisa9656 yeah, I think late October too

[@g.hmusicc]

SM: aBeNgErS oF kPoP SuperM: is made from one company, SM. now where does that say *avengers* again?

[@ireneg4515]

Not that I like the idea of SuperM but the avengers all come from one company too ahaha

[@fayye4081]

Avengers doesn't mean the same in Korea like it does in the west. In Korea the word avengers just means the best of the best in one group and can be used for literally anything related to groupwork. So they aren't trying to "avenge" kpop or trying to be related to the movie Avengers

[@g.hmusicc]

Irene Giannini well at least they came from different backgrounds, but i see you guys’ points

[@reynaldobyun960]

Combination of OTHER GROUP IN ONE COMPANY LIKE movie Avengers

[@emenemaxpein]

*sees rm walking right accross me* me: *moonwalks away* (around 100000 miles away)

[@hannahk7691]

Probably Lee Soo Man’s ego at work. Of all the names he could have chosen he wanted the SM initials to appear. Is every staff in SME a yesman that nobody dared to point out the gaffe. Also don’t understand why their American partners did not raise objections. SME has become top heavy and if yearly profits are erased where is the working capital going to come from? Staff and artists are happy but investors can only get rewarded if their stock is sold at profit.

[@leslygarcia1011]

When BTS come back it’s all going to be about them for that whole period. It won’t help other groups but actually block them. The American media attention will all be on them since they’re the biggest and known here.🤷‍♀️

[@andiegomes5856]

Why do I always feel like David needs a lawyer to protect him from the things Danny says? 😅😅

[@dishajoycelall563]

Other company be like BTS is on vacation so do ur best it's do or die situation 😂

[@bighitmoarmy3676]

I like how SM waited for BTS’s break before actually planning to debut a descent group but actually not to promote in America when they actually already have NCT having so many members and just ended picking two of them to recycle for another group and used another members from another group after their fame like basically a produce x1 show. One thing I know is that no matter how big your company is no matter “how powerfull” you said that group will be is no matter how big they’re fandom will get no one can really reach BTS’s level when it comes to success. Bighit never forced them to debut and explode in America. While this companies always does. You can never make another BTS just to compare them with the original BTS that *PAVED THE WAY* yeah, yeah say it not true. We all know how big BTS contributes to kpop and SM must be really thankful by that. I’m mad coz I just wants to see EXO AS A WHOLE. Even tho some members already enlisted but come on they have more to show. Same goes with NCT and Red Velvet. Wtf SM?

[@haileym.5366]

I agree with that tho. 😉

[@rovelynfelizarta7356]

SooMan revealed: “I was asked by Capitol Music CEO Steve Barnett to produce a new team that would display the strongest synergy between the West and the East recently. That is the reason why Super M was born. Super M is a group that consists of exceptional seven artists and will be releasing quality music that stands out. Through dance, vocals, rap, and fashion, the group will define the core values of K-Pop.”

[@mangminlalkhongsai1168]

And all that to get overshadowed by jhope's single chicken noodle soup lmfaoo

[@kpopdrama9025]

@@mangminlalkhongsai1168 Oh you said right

[@rafaelsmith5737]

​@@rovelynfelizarta7356Where's SuperM now?

[@callingonmyangels8235]

Danny and David back at it again with the latest tea

[@Chultim_ot7]

Sm calling them "Avengers of kpop" is really cringey as hell.. I mean call them Avengers of Sm but kpop? Ummmm

[@amiyarose9140]

That would make YG Thanos

[@Rose-ko4op]

@@amiyarose9140 lol I can imagine YG just snapping himself into non-existence

[@xecillmaze4740]

@@amiyarose9140 and bts is the kid in the theater cause hell even they know what's cringy or not

[@whyme2427]

Like big bang never named themselves avengers of Kpop rather than this collected group so Braggy of SM it’s obviously doing shit staff that’s not how you promote but wish them luck thiu

[@reynaldobyun960]

U don't know what it means cause you do not know the THEORY

[@madeinbusanjkjm]

I am also so happy with the statement from BigHit and the chance for the memebers to get some rest cause they've been grinding since 2013. Speaking of grinding, I'm kinda worried about Taemin. I feel like he hasn't stopped working since Jong died and now he's suddenly a member of a new group as well? On top of everything he already has going on? I think he is driving himself into exhaustion.

[@cattate1492]

Super M, huh? Why you gotta drag Taemin into this trainwreck!? Damn you SM 😒...the roast will be merciless. I hope BTS gets to have all the fun they want on break. If any ARMY witnesses a stalker bothering them, we fully understand you going full rabid bunny.

[@cattate1492]

Omg. I just realized it's sperm with an accent. F@!k it, I'm out.

[@taetaesmilk2834]

I can't wait for it to release so I can watch the new episode of DKDKTv news

[@rowenapajares3698]

Lol same. 🤭

[@melissaperez6916]

Avengers of kpop that is so embarrassing 😬. It kind obvious that sm is money hungry to Force kpop in the west just shows how hungry they are. How bts got famous in the west that happened naturally and didn’t force them to be popular in America I don’t think there going to be popular as they think there going to be but I well check and if I like support ❤️❤️. Ps I think we all know who the real super group is 😏💜 even tho am not a fan I can fully say they are.

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

Melissa Perez All I can say is time will tell as it is a gamble.

[@cam0987]

Ikrr

[@R4ckstar]

Especially since mark ten and Lucas aren’t even veterans of kpop

[@vivianmartins8447]

They're called SuperM because they're the most complete group so far They have insanely good dancers, vocalists, visuals and rappers, it doesn't lack in any aspect To me it tops BTS...

[@giavenchy]

Vivian Martins very talented members indeed...just don’t think they’d be as big as bts in the west if that was their ultimate goal.

[@leyIand]

No one: SM: aVEnGeRs Of kpOP ,,,! 🤡🥴

[@lalacheorry]

Literally, It's almost as if they ignored EXO, aren't they your 'supergroup'?

[@thatkidontheblock2921]

It is so obvious that SM wants to make a group that could go even further than BTS or stand in par with them when it comes to western marketing. But Sis BTS just be themselves and thats what made them BIG! SM only thinks of money.

[@cocomuffin4666]

@@thatkidontheblock2921 this is so true...

[@kpossibles]

They just want to rebrand under a label with the stars of each of their other groups, which will be very interesting!

[@cocomuffin4666]

@@kpossibles also true...

[@shuunknown]

I'm very glad and don't mind BTS having a break, cuz I know they'll be back. To whoever saying BTS will disband because a break bcuz "1D said the same thing"...they aren't 1D. And a break for BTS doesn't mean they aren't doing anything, a break for them means that they can do everything they want, we don't know what will the members come up with, RM- Seoul Town Road, V- Winter Bear just released

[@elfzen3489]

Directioners said the same thing...

[@unknownperson9335]

@@elfzen3489 BTS extended their contract another 7 year, they're still under contract with BigHit...

[@elfzen3489]

@@unknownperson9335 I'm just joking, don't worry.

[@whoareyou7646]

@@elfzen3489 BTS are under BigHit, a company, what ever happened to them the company decides and the company allows them to produce whatever they want

[@unknownperson9335]

@@elfzen3489 ok dear, don't make that joke again cuz Army will attack

[@queencesanndeoquino5190]

SM should at least realize that success is something that cannot be forced. It is not limited to talent as well because if it's only for the talent, damn, there are quite a lot in the kpop industry. But why happened with BTS? It's because of the sincerity that they've shown towards their craft and their fans that transcends throughout the world. That's what they need to learn from the bulletproof boyscouts, mic drop baam. Ps. Not a harmful comment at all. I even stand corrected. Bless you! Ps. Now let me revise. I think being relatable is what makes BTS become who they are now. They are not afraid to show their flaws and accept the fact that they are not perfect. They are just seven normal boys who happens to be given the chance to perform and used it as their platform to spread love and kindness. This is just my opinion and I respect yours.

[@Valentina-lu7kf]

Thank you!👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

Queences Ann Deoquino To be fair, other groups love and are sincere to their fans too so it is not just BTS. However, with BTS aside from the talent and sincerity with fans is the way they are managed and marketed which is important for any artist in the entertainment industry in the world.

[@whocares5863]

also their lyrics and the bangtan (or bighit) universe

[@Rosa-nr9tr]

Cringe

[@tenzindayab955]

You’re literally so cringe, I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re a koreaboo with a fake profile picture. You don’t think the thousands of other non famous idols show “sincerity” ? In fact most trainees including BTS,you can argue, we’re more sincere and humble before they blew up. It’s all about marketing and being trendy. BTS happened to be at the right place at the right time, and there’s nothing wrong with that. That’s what SM is trying to do right now with SuperM. And instead of enjoying bombast music and music video productions from the group you choose to hate and bring up BTS? You should be ashamed

[@curlyfries1251]

Danny: IF I GAMBLE, DOES THAT MAKE ME A GAMBLING ADDICT?! David: Did you gamble? Danny: I gAmbLeD FivE tImES David and everyone: 😐

[@elscullens]

If Danny needs to use a passport to go to a place just for gambling, and he has gone 5 times, he is not an addict, but it implies a stong desire to gamble, and that he associates gambling with having a great time. Imagine if there were easy to access gambling places near his home. Come on, smart guys, don't gamble!, use your maths!!!!. The house allways wins, casinos are designed to rob you blind! www.forbes.com/sites/davidschwartz/2018/06/04/how-casinos-use-math-to-make-money-when-you-play-the-slots/

[@CapriciousCapricorn1901]

I am a simple girl, I see V on thumbnail, I click..

[@avamin4642]

I'm you

[@pumpk1nw1tch]

On the topic of Super M: Personally, I have a really strong feeling that the group won't do well in the American markets, and that's not from a place of doubt for their talents or anything like that, but instead of growing up listening to the music and seeing what American labels and shows usually want. I think it was a rushed decision on SM's part; I also think it's unfair to the individual members to be put in another group, handling an entire different country's market on top of everything else they have to do. SM has been on thin ice recently due to the rising tensions with their blatant mistreatment of Chinese members within NCT. This is either a really poor attempt at self-redemption or a desperate grab at foreign markets to see if they can pull themselves out of the mess they have already created. As much as I do agree with my above statements, I also want to mention that I will give Super M's music a try. It's worth giving a shot. If it doesn't work, then so be it, but I just wish that the artists weren't in the crossfire for all of this. There's also the added issue of being called "the Avengers of K-pop" because that implies there's a common enemy that they're meant to defeat. No one likes the sound of that. I have said this before to a few friends just because I legitimately believe in this comparison, but to me, BTS have become the modern Beatles (gasp! I know, it's such a shocking thing but really, is anyone that surprised? They have a legitimate movie coming out in theaters _globally_. That's not a small achievement.) and as much as it pains me to say, no other groups are going to come close. Sure, other groups will also rise to the top, but not in the same way nor the same capacity as BTS has. All of that being said, I hope they enjoy their break and that Super M isn't the dumpsterfire we all fear it to be. Also, howdy! I am a huge lurker of this community but I felt really strongly about this, so I decided to comment. Much love!

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

snotkrls I just want to say anything is possible in this world so you never know.... also the way a group is managed and or promoted is important for their success too. You can be the most talented group in the world but without the proper exposure and promotions, success is only a dream. I am sure there will be definitely be a day that a group will be successful like BTS or maybe even rise above them. Not just in the Kpop but there are many other foreign artists too so it is not Kpop only. The possibilities are endless.

[@ingusch3783]

Danny: I’ve been to Macau. I’ve seen so many Koreans there. The Bald Japanese Man strikes again.

[@rhumball]

Ingusch lollllll

[@ibelieveinyourgalaxy]

I’ll never understand the decisions of SM, I don’t think they even do themselves. NCT should be the one still getting the push and specifically NCT U should have been the sub-unit that was pushed in states, their sound and members line-ups fit the US the best. As for sperm, riding coattails only takes you so far and forcing yourself into the US market doesn’t work, it’s why everyone failed but BTS succeeded. Taemin, Kai & Baek sincerely deserve better, than this, after all the years of hard work SM has had from them.

[@gordonfoundhislambsauce]

@@atiny_lunteni seriously, I'm not really a fan of either of the respective groups all members of SuperM is from, but they really do deserve better after all the hard work from their training days to now. With the members being in both SuperM and their own groups, I don't want any of them to be overworked and risk their health. This goes for all idol groups and artists in the korean music industry

[@DonnasPeaceOfArtStudios]

I agree100% about the gambling! They don't want the Korean people to spend there money overseas😂

[@golbinnom]

lmfao david sounded so naive when he was talking

[@marizmayol3782]

WELL BTS STILL "PAVED THE WAY" TO THOSE BIG COMPANIES(korea) INTO U.S MARKET!!!!THANKS FOR THE GREAT WORK OF BTS!!!!!

[@Duchessclotho]

Super M reeks of desperation to me. It has the makings of a good group but because SM is so controlling these artists will not be able to really showcase how talented they are. Maybe it will be different under Capital Records. I hope so because their level of talent is off the charts and I really want to see them show it off.

[@taetae-lm8ro]

danny telling david to stop over exaggerating when his rant had to be muted a couple minutes before is just amazing

[@jaja231]

Danny is right, Korea just want you to spend your money on gambling in Korea, the law makes no sense

[@ceslestine]

00:46 David looking like papa YG... Now you cant unsee it!

[@TD-ix2ld]

That's actually so accurate, I never thought about that before

[@ankomitarashi-488]

David I'm so sorry...

[@orsonsadler]

i had to come back and 👍🏽 your comment after watching the last dk news 😂

[@ceslestine]

@@orsonsadler 🤣🤣

[@NoorKhan-sx7jj]

Congrats on making it to a video 😂💜

[@jintheprince3991]

It’s funny to me that the avengers of kpop .. which Bts was called a few months prior has seven members .. one of my friends said that me that they are trying to hard to be Bts level

[@slimee3017]

Everybody is trying to do that but they won't admit.

[@bargui3445]

BTS is a phenomenon that doesn’t happen often, even bighit can’t give an actual formula of how this happened and I doubt they’ll (bh) create another group as successful as BTS, maybe incredible groups yes but at the level of BTS I don’t think so.

[@dreamot7968]

@@bargui3445 Yeah, BTS are legends. They are doing HUGE things, and I don't think any kpop group will reach their level at least in the next few years.

[@Rheydelacruz12]

Sad to say but the fans won't be automatically hooked with superM. Good luck in trying to beat bts tho

[@whyme2427]

For me it’s weird because why they title them that like downgrading other groups so shady of SM I think it’s not money it wants it wants a honour in US since YG has that why not for them to make one I dk purple you armies❤️

[@tushargrover2010]

Avengers of Kpop ? Damn SM, the arrogance though. Give me a break

[@diannaa.62]

Tush agustD i don’t think it’s arrogance I just don’t think they have any creative names. They called seulgi’s colllab group the same thing lmao.

[@taiyonatiare7918]

i agree. whether it was intentional arrogance or not it looks really tacky. especially because it wasnt even a name given by fans or smth. thats what their company is promoting them as.

[@ipromisethatserendipityisa9656]

Yeah i find the while thing arrogant, not because of the avengers title but by what the directors claim. Biggest kpop group theyll ever see? The shade to BTS? Its arrogant to think they can just easily manufacture BTS' success. Ok then... give us the best you've got if you think its so easy.......

[@diannaa.62]

I Promise that Serendipity is a Lie not that I’m defending them but isn’t every company supposed to think its artists are the best? Stop being so sensitive..

[@hanatop40]

@@ipromisethatserendipityisa9656 It's media play

[@rowenapajares3698]

SM can provide the global market bop songs or combination of talented idols into one group or a group were majority of the members can speak fluent english but they can't duplicate or level the authenticity of BTS. Well, we'll see. 🤷‍♀️ I'm very fond of Mark so for sure he'll catch some attention.

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

WENA PAJ You honestly do not know that as anything is possible in this world. I like BTS and are proud of their success but it does not mean that there cannot be another group that will not reach their level of success. I am sure there will be at least one if not a couple more groups that will reach their level or maybe even go beyond their level so who knows? Time will tell all.

[@rowenapajares3698]

@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj I honestly agree that time will come, another group will get the spot light but not this time. Not until BTS is here. If superM will succeed to be huge in the states, that'll be great and I will not be mad about it. They are talented and charismatic. But the authenticity of BTS, how unique they are, how pure their relationship with their fans, that's what made them successful together with talent. That's my point.

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

WENA PAJ Once again not doubting BTS, but other groups have a very strong relationship with their fans too so it is not just them. Other groups have the talent and all of the traits that you mentioned as well. However, I think how they are promoted and marketed is very important too. You can be the most talented and sweetest group to your fans but if your management and company does not allow you to shine then it is all in the dark and success will only be a dream. But let’s see as time will tell and anything is possible in this world. Plus, maybe Cpop and groups from other countries will shine as well so it is not just Korean groups. The possibilities are endless.

[@whocares5863]

@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj well, I think what makes bts unique is the fact that they write and produce their own music, they speak about problems we as society and as individuals go through, with their music but also with their alternative universe. their story and the theories behind it, is very interesting and well made. they touch different topics, many of them are seen as inappropriate to talk about. (the education system, the struggles of students, beauty standards, self love, mental illness, family matters, suicide, the loss of a loved one, youth, low self esteem, individualism) They are also very open to their fans. Many kpop artists won't even dare to speak about these issues, because the korean society will end their careers. They are sincere and genuine. For example, yoongi exposed to the world his mental health issues, his dark thoughts through his mixtape. This made people view him as a normal person with struggles and not a flawless idol with no problems whatsoever. Another strong point is their lyrics. They are so well written and have references of the greek mythology, different books and types of art, paintings, phylosophy etc. That's what fans like the most. Their touching lyrics and how genuine and honest they are. Many non kpop fans view kpop as something fake and plastic. Perfect idols with no say in their work. Bts are true artists and that's what made them so popular in the first place iml

[@CharIott3]

@@whocares5863 Another group does the same! Stray Kids talk about struggles of their generation, expectatioms from adults/society, mental health, dreams,etc. They also write/produce their own music. And Seventeen literally does EVERYTHING. I dont know why army always forget about svt!

[@itzelsalgado3396]

Tbh I would have preferred a new girl group coming from sm and promoting in the states. Red velvet is amazing but they don’t seem to promote much in the states.

[@cheryldailey5310]

I'm curious to see how Super M will be marketed. When groups record English versions of songs, I find I prefer the Korean (original) versions. Is Super M going to produce songs strictly in English or a mixture of English and Korean? It will be interesting to watch and see if SM's gamble pays off.

[@kiwitealc5353]

That's interesting I hadn't thought about that! Now that you bring it up, my guess is they'll try to do at least one English song. I don't know how well that will do though, we'll see!

[@katherineikharo7938]

OMG. WE literally had the same thoughts

[@drawde2000]

If they have a killer English song, then it will pay off. It all comes down to the song.

[@haticeebrar8253]

I hope they don't make all the album English or something like that bc SM sucks at writing English songs

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

Cheryl Dailey Good points and honestly BTS gets the question of whether they will make a whole album in English all the time. I think that is kind of a dumb question as RM is the only one who can speak English in the whole group. Plus they are a foreign group so why expect an entire English album from them. It depends on how many members in the group can speak English well and I think some of them do from what I know. However, I think maybe they would only have 1-2 songs entirely in English at most as they are Korean artists so of course most of their songs will still be in Korean. However, in order to appeal to the American market more, I am sure they will have at least a number of songs in English. BTS has not really done that so maybe they will do it in order to impress the American audience and fans more, who knows?

[@FearsBloodyTears]

Shawols and Exols, I understand why you would be upset, but you have to think of it this way. Some EXO and Shinee members are in the military. I know it sucks how SM didn't give EXO a world tour before 2 of them went to the military.. I would side with NCTzens though, because NCT aren't missing any members. Double working two of the members will be too much for them, considering they are a whole group right now.. SM really is trying to find another alternative to make money, but putting two NCT members while they're a whole group..I Don't think it was a smart move..NCT is doing good on their own atm..

[@lilianachapa3233]

its actually 4 nct members in superm

[@reynaldobyun960]

We know but CAPITOL RECORD is COLLABORATION to SM ENT.

[@MarliannaLiu]

If SM wants to create new group using members who already debuted that's fine. It's not like they will change their mind due to fans' complain but can't they think of better name than SuperM? Because if you pronounce the name together it sounds like "sperm" 🤨

[@monxampion6930]

hahahahh i just said it out loud and cant stop laughing now

[@oqeufh]

“Avengers of kpop” ouch cringeee. I think that there’s a reason bts became huge in the west and I feel like it’s because they themselves connect a lot with their fans and to me at least they kinda feel different from your conventional kpop group that’s run by a big company like SM, they seem less “manufactured” to put it in some way. Also bts becoming mainstream in the US that’s great, but I feel like it might be kinda hard for further kpop groups to do the same mostly because of how competitive the US market is. It feels saturated, we now have some kpop that’s popular, but also Latin music is kicking in hard in the US and obviously your typical English songs. It feels like a lot for a group that was just formed, even if it’s formed from SM’s best idols, it’s still a new group you don’t know how they will work together, so I don’t see how they can just make their way in somehow, maybe they can be popular among kpop fans in the US but among the general public? Idk seems too ambitious.

[@persona8208]

Twenties = Sex drive BTS : Yayyy!!! Vacation !! ARMY : Rest Well, Eat Well David :SLEEP Well 😉

[@ulzzangs2631]

Forcing kpop groups in the American market will not help. Let them grow and expand naturally! It’s amazing how BTS are so loved naturally but they really really deeply care about going back to their korean roots and spread their culture and that’s what i love so much about them.

[@Lullaby0584]

I think not only use they bts comeback, but get eventually a boost from the fandoms. When every fandom from each member work together it will be big

[@zen-oh9808]

Also glad bts is getting their hard earned vacation..hope they come back strong as ever

[@babychicky14]

Why has Kpop turned into a competition?? It is so annoying to see people try to one up each other on which group had gotten how many awards and is the best in this. All of the artists work hard and most of them are incredibly talented at their craft. Let’s just keep it as music and performance. I can’t stand this new wave of fans omfg it was never like this- As long as my idols are happy and healthy and making the music they want it is alright with me.

[@shineetaemint6548]

Ikr, i don't get kpop stans way of thinking nowadays

[@babychicky14]

SHINee taemint it’s honestly so tiresome I barely want to look at the comment section of videos 🙄

[@razzledazzle2789]

Imagine they go on vacations and come back with partners,I mean I would never mind cause bts deserve to love too ya know?

[@clairem3323]

I love every single member on Super M, but... gawd, I really don't like the concept. It just feels very money hungry and plastic. My guess is that they will flop on the US market (not getting as much hype as they had hoped for). The public doesn't like when something in music it's so blatantly fabricated

[@izr.8465]

But, think about this: If sm keep on debuting old idols into new groups, the rest of the trainees are going to be trainees forever. If I were in that situation I'd feel hopeless 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ajc7295]

I don’t know if I just have a dirty mind or what, but every time I read ‘superm’ I keep thinking it is ‘sperm’ lol

[@ghievlain08villaver68]

Trueee .. Me too ..

[@commander4692]

🤣🤣🤣🤣same

[@elora512]

I feel like BTS' success stems from their story, they represent the Hero archetype. We're so attracted to them because the hero archetype in our own psyche recognizes their challenges and their battles and lastly, their victory. It's so much more than the music or the choreography at this point. I'm honestly a little scared to anticipate how SM's plans will go. At first, their integration of a system that allows their artists to be interchangeable seemed so exciting and innovative, but there's a distant foreignness about the groups now. NCT was fine, the EXO subunits were fine. But a group that breaks the boundaries of the existing groups? I understand there may be intentions to pool the fans into one super group. However, this expands the flow of the artists' relationships and chemistry to much broader terms. The innovation seems to have come at the cost of intimacy, and I'm really uncertain about the outcome.

[@filiz7678]

i thought they're called SuperM because short it's SM

[@liticiasikes2418]

You forgot ...SM is just lazy. EXO M, Super Junior M.....now Super M....they must love this letter !^^

[@rausagesaw]

SuperM is a milkshake in South Africa😅😅 🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@Pichanchaaan]

honestly sm calling the new group the ‘a v e n g e r s’ is off putting lmao like they literally just admitted that only THESE members are good so only they are chosen. the other idols? back to the dungeon 😔

[@mishellnamjoon2787]

Lol BTS didn't even focus on US market and now they are very big so 😃

[@ninahshahbaz1476]

I'll like to state that BTS paved the way

[@introvertedrobot3134]

*Take the letter U from SuperM and it takes a whole new meaning..* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cocomuffin4666]

Yeah, the u is underlined because it is silent...lmao

[@introvertedrobot3134]

@@cocomuffin4666 🤣🤣🤣

[@b.tan-focustv7973]

I choked... Sm really gotta learn english first.. Man.... It's so wrong

[@eilaffarah1016]

THANK YOU Danny and David 4 always bringing good quality content for us Ducks😊💜. I'M SO SO HAPPY 4 BTS💜💜💜💜 it's Good they're taking rest on the right time. They "REALLY" need to take a nice long vacation. They have worked so hard this past years. Rest well BTS... we will miss you...and come back safe,happy and healthy.😘💜

[@youniverse_]

Wish all the best for SM's Super M. Cause yall know, award shows not really fun nowadays.. I wanna feel that time again, when BTS won over another big big big boyband😏 From Peaceful Army With so much purple💜✌

[@fatumanuru3084]

Yeah “I wanna feel that time when BTS wins over big names” ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😭😭😭😂😂😂

[@kazeace853]

I'm more looking forward to see an award show with BTS and someone beat BTS which i feel would shock the world

[@Sivzram]

@@kazeace853 Well technically TWICE has been doing just that for DAESANGS 3 years in a row and so did WANNA ONE & EXO in earlier years But yea this year it's gonna be very tough to beat BTS TWICE again did beat them for one DAESANG in the recent MGMA but yea BTS on whole gets the most awards In WEST no Kpop group yet have defeated them but some Western Groups did I guess

[@prajalrai1585]

@@kazeace853 Sweet dreams ..🤗💜

[@ipromisethatserendipityisa9656]

@@kazeace853 Yeah something like that will happen in the future... but Not Today.

[@ipromisethatserendipityisa9656]

Put together a group forced to perform together and you get an inauthentic and manufactured performance, something the west doesnt like. BTS members knew each other and jive so much that it shows on stage with their smiles and subtle interactions. The audience feel happy watching them because the members give off genuine feelings of happiness. You cant fake that shit.

[@ThatBlackPiano]

What's with calling SPERM...I mean, Super M “Avengers of kpop”? Kpop was never wronged so what is there to "avenge"? SM is desperately trying to follow Big Hit's wave. NCT did okay here, but did not make the big splash that SM was hoping for and that is why they are trying again w/ Super M. They were seeking BTS level numbers because they foolishly thought Americans just wanted Kpop and any Kpop will do. I agree w/ David, this time, that this will likely NOT work. Super M is a horrible name and just comes off as a cheap knock off of Super Junior despite the members being actual seasoned and talented young men in their own respective groups. It's immediately starting the group off on the wrong foot. Just being able to speak English is not what was needed for the group. SM is showing, with pride, their extreme ignorance as to what it was that actually made fans become ARMYs that are so heavily dedicated to BigHit AND BTS. ARMYs got to be with them through their struggles. We got to support them and witness them growing and caring about their craft and content they were sharing with the world. We got to watch them go through their mentoring w/ Warren G and see that even to this very day they are utilizing the methods, tips, and insights he gave them in American Hustle; even in their solo projects like RM's MONO and August D's The Last or Jimin's LIE, etc. We are moved by their sincerity and they don't try to sugarcoat their situations like ALL other Kpop groups have been told/trained to do. They cry, they get angry, they need to be alone sometimes, and have learned to embrace their differences and support each other's differences and always encourage ARMY and the world to do the same; LOVE YOURSELF. They are not afraid to make music addressing societal issues like BAEPSAE or mental health with the entire LOVE YOURSELF saga. They are genuine. SM is NOT. Even if we're fans of the respected OG groups the members of Super M come from we are not puppets nor are we blind. We see what SM's goal is here and what they THINK they can manipulate markets into. It will not work because we are not stupid. They will not get the BTS level views, radio play, TV show invites that they are imagining. We are not "Kpop hungry" here in America. We're starving for genuine artistry and personable, trust worthy role models. THAT's why BTS has been on fire since American Hustle in 2013 and grew so popular so very fast. #Day1ARMY #OT7

[@jungkookseagull990]

BlackPiano it’s ok army let bts have their break and one day they will come from the heavens smashing hits. #BTSshadowiscoming

[@ThatBlackPiano]

@@jungkookseagull990 I know. I just hate that companies like SM still refuse to learn ANYTHING from BigHit and the way they respect and understand fans and the idols. They want the success without the work and care that is needed. :(

[@zheke_music]

I stan david's patience on danny's IDGAF attitude hahaha

[@ymhktravel]

BTS intro to the western audiences was more like a mutual thing on both sides, and started with the internet. This whatever SuoerM has a deliberate purposeful feel to it. BTS original target wasn't even the western markets, hence the lyrics are like 90% in korean instead of being in English. Success may not always be replicated if the chemistry isn't genuine and mutual, esp from western audience and westernised societies like Singapore who prefer more individual style that one can relate to instead of manufactured appeal.

[@putribahagia1179]

david say "bts paved the way"

[@stephcon6818]

As an American I am still shocked that BTS was able to become as popular as they are in U.S. The times and culture are definitely shifting but it still surprises me that they’ve done as well as they have here. This is no diss to BTS’s talent - It’s just still hard to believe that Americans are open to non-English music and people who look different than your standard American act. I always had a feeling that Blackpink would be successful in the U.S. due to their western look and style of music. I almost cried when I walked into a Kohl’s store last week and heard Blackpink playing. In the case of SuperM ... first of all who on earth thought it would be a good name? I’m shocked that Capital records didn’t clock them for having a name that is practically Sperm ... secondly I don’t have high expectations for their success in the U.S. Nobody knows who Exo, NCT, or Shinee are. Unless they plan on singing in all English I don’t think they will be successful but of course wish them all the best.

[@GroovyLisa]

Super m sounds like a bad idea but I will wait until they debut before I start judging. I wish sm would of done more with current exo artist though.

[@YatiSanghvi]

Super M is the Avengers because wbk BTS is the Thanos of the music industry lmao

[@nevaladder]

When BTS snap, everybody else's audience disappears.

[@lenn452]

well Avengers won at the end so i don't think this is the case honestly :D

[@btxties3940]

@@lenn452 Avengers won once. Thanos won 14,000,005 times. It's all depending on which timelime you follow ;)

[@avamin4642]

@@btxties3940 your mind, it amazes me

[@fightingnimo7]

Bangthanos 😂

[@maryc7544]

I agree NCT was doing ok.

[@bronaghmccabe]

I've already said this on Twitter but SuperM comes across as a little desperate to me, I'm not an SM stan but I look to SM as the company so big they can try anything and set the trends but given that NCT never became as big as they wanted they're doing this as some cheap attempt at competing with BTS (I also feel like it kind aims to capitalize on Produce101 with the whole 'Avenger team' idea). It's purely a dick measuring contest or at least an attempt at one to prove they can still compete with BTS but it feels like a cop out because of course if 3 established fandoms come together there'll be a degree of success but I feel like the set up is going to lead to it not working out as well as they think and if it 'flops' it'll look really bad. There's no benefit to anyone but the NCT127 boys and even then they're overworked as all hell, the akgaes involved will have a fit, WayV will probably be put on hiatus while the projects ongoing, Baekhyun Taemin and Kai have to spend their year or so before enlistment promoting NCT and the entire idea of conquering America is stupid and they should've aimed to promote NCT in Korea instead.

[@Umla80]

Thanks for the updates! and big hug to Sarah your doing a great job 💜 I have to say I would honestly respect BTS privacy during their vacation, their well being tops my gratification. 5 years with out vacation i doubt any of us would do that and thats how hard they work for us, they deserve all rest and relaxation and adventures they can get 💜💜💜

[@cayonaianjakem.9961]

No offense to the fans, but what's so 'super' in a group that's composed of members from 3 groups and has talents but doesn't have the chemistry as a 'super' group? SM is always trying bullshit.