DM's Incel Uncle Ruins DnD | r/rpghorrorstories

[@TigerW0lf]

She SHOULD HAVE told her parents. For all we know, this is repeat behavior that her parents know about. Moreover, any decent parent wouldn't want their child interacting with their own brother if he's acting like this around his niece.

[@pentagrin4157]

From the context of the story it seems like they wouldn't care if she did tell them. My own family always pushed aside my concerns about my uncle's behavior and kept making excuses for him.

[@TigerW0lf]

@pentagrin4157 then at that point, someone needs to call CPS.

[@pentagrin4157]

@@TigerW0lf I don't know about elsewhere but CPS in the states is dogshit. I had literal bruises on me and my guardian hand-waved it as "kids being kids and falling down a lot at the playground" and just because the house was CLEAN, they didn't do shit, even after getting my side of the story. So unless OP's house was a filthy pig-sty CPS would have left her to rot there.

[@loganstecher2581]

​@@TigerW0lfCPS only wants abandoned kids to make $ off of.

[@kou7191]

@@TigerW0lf Everyone in the story in question is an adult, I doubt CPS could do anything about it.

[@SrenHolm-k3o]

That uncle sounds like he should be on a list.

[@MortusVanDerHell]

Regarding the uncle... We fixed something like that in the Vampire: The Masquerade round when the harassed NPC lady suddenly turned out to be a Nosferatu (a vampire who is ugly as night in his actual form and has the ability to take on the form of a normal - or even very attractive - human as an illusion) and pulled the harassing SC towards her with superhuman strength and then said to him in a deep, masculine voice: "Come here, handsome. Let's play a nice game of balla balla and make out properly. But with tongue, as it should be!" The player was horrified that the pus-dripping, noseless, overweight something was flirting so hard and physically with his character that he first complained to the DM, only to receive a grin and the reply: "There are a lot of Nosferatu in this town. Keep that in mind before you harass another one of my NPCs." After that, we had no more problems with player characters assaulting NPCs. ^^

[@CallMeKes]

At least he was capable of learning his lesson.

[@7thsealord888]

@@CallMeKes ... When hit over the head with the book, certainly. :)

Ha! :-D

[@littlegiantj8761]

I pulled something similar with a player that wanted to go after some lizardfolk innkeepers. First they got hissing and a glare; then bit.

[@ShitpostingJoJo]

*_Imagine if bro said: "Even Better" 💀_* I woulda walked tf outta that game immediately. 😂

[@zacharysieg2305]

If you would become “that guy” as a form of revenge, you already *were* “that guy.”

[@dorianleakey]

We have heard this through the OPs words, it may have made a bit more sense from the horses mouth

[@oneandonlymario659]

Re: Incel Uncle Personally, he needs to go. I get that he's very knit to the DM, but the guy is a toxic landfill full of garbage. He's going to lose it again.

[@BlueTressym]

I doubt that'll happen unless the GM manages to move out, which I fully expect she'll do the moment she can.

[@kristinrathbun1408]

I'm wondering about the age of the uncle. From certain things given in the post (particularly the extended family living situation), I'm thinking uncle's probably not that much older to niece (whereabouts of 30 would be my guess). I also agree that DM should report uncle's behavior to her parents, but again due to the living situation, and especially if parents to Mom and uncle/grandparents to DM are also part of the house, I can see why DM was forced into letting uncle back in the game. (Probably knew of uncle's issues, but figured this could still "help" him.)

[@kou7191]

Yeah, ages are never mentioned, other than op and dm being in college (so anywhere between 18 to 26) so the uncle could very well be in their same age range. Of course, it doesn't justify anything he did or said though, but at least it's *slightly* less disturbing to think some frat guy thinking like that, than some middle aged creep. There may still be time he gets a reality check.

[@scaryfingers101]

I love how in story 1, the problem player is against the X Card because he prefers assertiveness over passive-aggressiveness, all while being a part of this campaign for the SOLE purpose of being passive-aggressive to the DM.

[@BlueTressym]

I thought that too! Calls other people passive-aggressive while being practically the poster guy for it.

[@michaelortiz1561]

I view hos actions as aggressive actually he's literally assaulting the dm he has problems with with the same behavior, should he do that? No but it's very aggressive to do so

[@MarquisLeary34]

3 rogues?! That should have been a whole chorus of "nope" signs right there.

[@Kennisaurus]

Wonder if the DM with the creepy uncle is forced to interact with him. Some families are like that. They'd rather coddle the creep and ignore the complaints because "wE'rE a FaMiLy!"

[@PsychoSavager289]

Instead of "Most Annoying Player", the last chapter should have been called "Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary"

[@dwaynejackson551]

The cut off leg story was the OP getting shoved out of the way of a sniper round.

[@fred_derf]

To the OP in the third story -- Run. Run away. Run fast, run hard and run long.

[@fabriziopedani5315]

That R* story reminds me of once so many years ago. We were early high school kids. I was DMing and it was DnD BECMI. The player meet this statues of a major character of this homebrew world who was a dark elf (not drow) sorceress and the tyrant of a major area of the setting. Of course extremely attractive despite being centuries old. One of the characters in the group declared he wanted to R* the statue. Now, i was a bit peplexed about the dinamics of the act but i allowed it. It was an animated stone statue (not sure of the english name of the basic monster) and per the manual the inside of such statues is made of molting lava. So, you can imagine how i made it turn out for the character.

[@joak82]

Remember folks, alcohol doesn't "change" you, it merely amplifies who you are and uncovers what you hide. I had to learn that the bad way, and improve from then. And for the Mary story, don't make legendary characters, but instead make a John D&D who can grow into one with the right story/goals

[@GarkKahn]

Yeah it merely shuts up that inner voice telling you that's a bad idea and randomize your choices

[@shadenox8164]

While not "legendary" I did actually play a sorcerer character in a Strahd campaign who had, had his powers sealed by Strahd as part of the vampire's game to mess with him, each of the party members had different little things that Strahd had done. So his levelling up was technically treated as him breaking different parts of the seal on his power. But that was just flavour, he was a normal character for his level. So that idea can work, but it requires someone actually interested in roleplaying someone who has been depowered not someone who just wants to be powerful and special.

[@MrSwccguy]

Lmao imagine believing this bullshit

[@shadenox8164]

@@MrSwccguy That alcohol only reduces your inhibitions?

[@theofficerfactory2625]

Intro: Why am I always forgetting poor Ziggy?!?! Hello Ziggy. Story 1: Interesting title. What a hot mess! Story 2: Intel and uncle. 2 words that should never go together. Uh... what the hell? She probably has too because of her parents. Story 3: It sounded like it was targeted. Story 4: Da heck? That title!? Wooooow. Story 5: Oh, this one with the feminist. Wait, so this isn't a repeat. Oh?

[@Spadeaswell]

What a coincidence, you uploaded right on time for my own D&D session!

[@philip1557]

That guy in the second story is just using shit as excuses

[@7thsealord888]

Story #1 -I can, sort of, understand a wish to take revenge. But there were a bunch of innocent bystanders here, which TG had absolutely no regard for. That and his smug excuses lead me to wonder what kind of GM HE was in the first place. Not a good one, I am fairly sure. .Story #2 - Ohh boy. I like how the DM dealt with him the first time, but letting him back in was, I feel, a huge mistake. No idea what the family dynamics are here, but I honestly feel that the DM really really needs to tell her parents all of what has been going on. Keeping quiet about this sort of thing NEVER ends well. Story #3 - Openly confront the DM. Be polite, but there is no point in being nice about this. I can only guess that the DM had some unspoken issue with the Player and/or Character. But, whatever the justification, this was completely uncalled for. Story #4 - Definitely better off away from that bunch. One can hope that at least some of them eventually grew up and now feel genuine embarrassment over this. Story #5 - Mary said that all her previous games had ended soon. Wonder why? Mary, short for Mary Sue, obviously. It's good that she left so soon, with a replacement Player available already. I'd count this as a lucky escape.

[@vortega472]

Thanks Ziggy for the smart comments about liking, subscribing, and string. Lovely lovely string.

[@mirrortherorrim]

11:10 You're surprised she's giving her uncle another chance at her table? I'm surprised her family is giving him another day at the same house as his niece. He's not 18 any more, when kids explore their sexuality and extremes in it, he is the age when he should have more common sense than to be obsessedly playing SA with his niece in a game that is not supposed to be about anything intercourse-related - in fact, he should have more common sense than that at any age. That's predatory behaviour, and she is enabling it either because she is afraid, or thinks it's no big deal. She should have told her parents.

[@AzureKyle]

Sadly, some families would prefer to cover it up and pretend it doesn't happen, acting as if it was 'just a phase' rather than actually deal with it, because family needs to stick together.

[@BlueTressym]

They probably already know. The most likely scenario is that she's stuck living in the same house as him until she can afford to move out. She can't make him leave and the parents are putting up with him either because he's helping them financially or because "He's family!" A lot of people are terrified of 'creating drama,' or 'rocking the boat,' even even when they're being mistreated or abused because the person who does so is automatically the Bad Person(TM) no matter how reasonable it is for them to speak out or how badly theu're being treated. ETA: OP said GM was 'Glad her parents weren't home so they could afford the family drama,' which makes it painfully obvious that she doesn't expect them to deal with it appropriately.

[@CruelestChris]

Spoiler: it's because that one isn't real. Like, blatantly so.

[@iank472]

It's impressive to be both a sh*tty player and DM simultaneously. Any DM worth their salt would never deliberately sabotage someone elses game at the cost of all the other players in that game.

[@marybdrake1472]

You never, ever, try to use a campaign as a revenge attempt. You're not not "teaching" anyone a lesson, you're just being a petty, spiteful, child. On the upside, boops for Ziggy.

I would've bought it if he did that for _one_ session and then said something to the DM along the lines of, _"Do you see how annoying what I just did was? It's the same for me when you do it in_ my _games."_ Then it would've been (a bad way) to teach DM a lesson... but this just seemed like an excuse after the fact.

[@marybdrake1472]

It seems like an excuse after the fact because it was.

[@gimok2k5]

Uh oh, Doge messed up the background footage recording at 5:55 a bit - we can see the HUD and the console shinanigans to turn the HUD off. Thankfully it does 'fix' itself within the next few seconds, but it's still an interesting view behind the scenes there. Figuratively and literally.

[@SadieLorendaJ]

Kingdom Come! A doge of culture!

[@TheZMage]

Not defending the asshole getting revenge on the Dungeon Master, but it sounds from the X-Card situation that he likely did try to talk to the other DM about the way he plays in the Star Wars campaign before he decided acting like a child was better

[@nightlord1210]

the first one sounds way too close to a similar one I played.Our regular DM played chaotic evil and was just disruptive.

[@witchytitan1870]

9:09 lmao I said the same thing

[@mybigwillie6153]

As one tabaxi sorcerer once said "My fucking LEGS!"

[@monikasernek1177]

I remember the story with Mary. It now makes sense to know why she is how she is - she suffers from what some people call modern Hollywood writing. And for the record - it has nothing to do with women in media - a male character with the same personally would be a bad character too.

[@ArcCaravan]

I just guessed she yells misogyny when anyone disagrees with her.

[@monikasernek1177]

@@ArcCaravan She did send a message to the other female player that the game or the DM is misogynic because the one female npc looked up to a male npc.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@monikasernek1177 And I'm convinced it was just an attempt to make DM look bad to manipulate her into leaving either to spite the group or keep a "friend" she thought she had due to being "fellow females".

[@monikasernek1177]

@@ArcCaravan I think she didn't thought about that the other female player isn't like her.

[@oneandonlymario659]

Huh. The murderhobo story practically has a Rogue Squadron.

[@bloodwolfgaming9269]

You know it's a bad story when Doge doesn't cut his F-bombs short to censor them. XD

[@stephenadams8712]

I worry about your browser history after looking for images for the thumbnails

[@zakuraRabbit]

I've been in a game where a PC died in "Session Zero" as well... our DM (who in their defense was new...as were a lot of us) also wanted to do small minisessions with each character before the game, which resulted in our paladin dying. I don't know how it happened...and they were revived for the first official session so no permanent damage was done... but then my brother died in the first real session to a single critical hit... (once again we were just handed a diamond by an NPC and sent to the nearest temple, same place the Paladin was revived) Not just knocked out. He took more than twice his HP. His character was dead-dead. I think that DM had some problems with balancing... they also allowed me to play a flying character but didn't balance encounters accordingly... even in my own solo-session I was made to fight creatures without ranged attacks. So I just fired arrows at them from the air and they couldn't touch me at all...weird chose for a solo-session I thought... and it became a running problem that most of our enemies just ignored me because I was flying. I think the Paladin was the only person with some actual experience...the DM may have played before but it was their first time DMing, so the Paladin helped them out a lot in the start.

[@CooperAATE]

Uh oh

[@3of6mylove]

Almost seems like the core fantasy of the rogue is a red flag at this point.

[@paleflame]

The last one is a literally Hollywood leftist writer in training.

[@CallMeKes]

Video needed more kitty. Hehe.

[@MrBandgeek888]

Yes overlord Ziggy

[@anon......]

Man the first one is such a hard one. I have to side with the aggro player, If I was there I would have been so down to go "trainwreck watching." As it happens, I despise GMs who hold players to standards they would not hold themselves too, and using the game as a tool to teach someone how such behavior effects a game sounds so pleasing. They would have to mutually correct their behavior or mutually ban each other, that two games get wrapped up in it is a bit lame but ehh.

[@loganstecher2581]

Being sent to your room by your niece is wild 😆

[@SnaxTheSnaxolotl]

Yay a ziggy

[@sherylcascadden4988]

Not playing.... Is You Tube blocking you? Rest of my channels have no problems.

[@M_Alexander]

Poor NPCs

[@RWAsur]

That was the same story you read before, silly Doge.

[@glitchycassette]

I DID THIS FOR THE CATTTTTT

[@megatronjenkins2473]

ZIGGY!!!!

[@UnholyCameraman]

Died at Session 0: This had happened to me before once. I was playing a half-orc sorcerer in Pathfinder with a falchion. Think of it as a Spellblade from TES series. She had died at the hands of a joke kobold who is level 2 (roughly CR 2 vs. me being CR 1/4 as Pathfinder gauges CR on a party of 4's Average Party Level, so myself on my own calculates as a quarter of the party at level 1). Quite frankly, it became a me-problem when I made a generic wizard for session 1, but it generally sucked when you had a fun concept only to be killed off by choices made by the player or how the die rolled, and it sucked even harder when a potentially fun character get killed before the game begins. I had to learn how to make character templates, have generic backstories on reserves as fill-in-the-blanks, and there will still be times that I was caught completely off-guard. My advice towards the player from someone who was brought up on the game before roleplaying became a major aspect of TTRPG... Do NOT suck it up. Learn from what happened, and what you could have done better on your end, and write it all down on pen and paper. Let it cook while you sleep and read it over as it is now a letter TO YOU from your past self. Do not read it once over and don't skim it over; if you have the time to write it down, you owe yourself the time to read it to its fullest. Your emotions are just a moment and a dime a dozen; spend that time wisely and your true feelings will come back more clearly. It is OKAY to feel bad, it is OKAY to feel sad, and it is OKAY to feel mad about it. Wanna know what is NOT OKAY? To allow your character to be dead for good. Save your character's soul for the next game.

[@damienhailey118]

Story 3 throws up a few yellow flags for me. Way too vague.

[@RdWarrior-x8y]

Ligma Bawls

[@danwizzle91]

Lets gooooo!

[@ErdriedDeirdre]

Please let that story be rage bait. 😟

[@grumpysloth7928]

I played D@D in the 90s I cant remember ever having a party resort to any sexual acts in any campaign. When did everyone and everything become about deviant sex.

[@seto_kaiba_]

lol. If anything that's being toned down due to this modern wave of progressive sexual puritanism. Your group =/= the entire Dnd experience.

[@grumpysloth7928]

@@seto_kaiba_ I can tell you this if some freak of nature tried making a D@D game I was in about sex I would have left and found new friends.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@grumpysloth7928 90s probably didn't have people sharing their worst DnD experiences either so everyone didn't have that big a reference pool.

[@JacobL228]

It's annoying how naive and overly optimistic you are about all these problem players. You used to be more objective about these stories, but now all you ever say is stuff like, "Talk it out; they'll probably realize the error of their ways." You never advocate for consequences anymore, and you always want everyone to stay friends. At this point, I'm kind of surprised no one's written a story about you as a doormat DM that lets the problem players do whatever they want.

[@ghost7685]

if these stories have taught me anything it: If someone isn't in a good place or is going through thing then threat them like shit Being an asshole in gerenal is ok you're feelings are more important than anything else, especially logic use the word "incel" a lot, apparently everyone is one

[@ArcCaravan]

@@ghost7685 Those people that "aren't in a good place" or "going through things" have a bad habit of taking their anger and frustrations out on other people. Whatever they could be going through doesn't automatically excuse their behavior.

[@dragonturtle2703]

Why is the multiple rogues a red flag? Is it more rogues = edgy problem player? In which case, might as well just ban anyone who chooses a rogue… and a paladin, cleric, warlock, wizard or sorcerer (“I cast fireball), or Druid (often the special snowflake marry sues or annoyingly pacifist characters).

[@ArcCaravan]

@@dragonturtle2703 Seems more about the amount rogues than the choice of rogue itself.

[@dragonturtle2703]

@@ArcCaravan Thanks, but that's sort of making less sense honestly. If anything, usually a red flag for me are the people who say "I'm doing X, so you can't".

[@ArcCaravan]

@@dragonturtle2703 Strictly enforcing a one class per party rule can be bad, but I can at least understand concern about three of a single class in a five player party. And just because it's called a red flag doesn't mean it should be banned, just that it can cause worry after so many times problem players have done the same. Blame the the problem players who keep using rogues, not the people who get cautious around recurring patterns.

[@mrosskne]

Why do you shame people for being virgins?

[@solosynapse]

There's a BIG difference between being a virgin & being an incel.

[@TigerW0lf]

Says the possible incel. Seriously if you equate incel behavior to being a virgin, you're not wrong. Not for the reason you think, but you are accurate. He's "shaming" an incel for being an asshole, not for having no game

[@R3GARnator]

Most virgins aren't incels. It's no excuse for bad behavior. "Being an Incel" is ultimately a form of projection, a victim complex, stemming from entitlement and insecurity.

[@CatLover-gk8uu]

There is a bit of a difference between "I have a hard time dating and have never had sex before" and "I say inappropriate and sexually charged things towards random woman and try to perform a rape fantasy in game and when things don't go my way I scream about political correctness ruining woman, wokism, and that woman just can't take my humor."

[@MatrixRefugee]

@@solosynapse It's the difference between, a dog and a dog with rabies at the "foaming at the mouth biting everything" stage