THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING - A FNaF Security Breach Theory (DMuted)

[@nobodynexus]

This reveal in my opinion honestly saved SB's plot for me. I love SB, but I never liked it for the plot. But now, I do. Because this reveal honestly gives me SO MUCH to dig into. Gregory being on Burntrap's side at first explains many things: 1. It explains the Burntrap lines from the trailer. He was clearly referring to two people- specifically saying "You two burn!". This could easily mean that at the time he said that, he was speaking to both Vanessa and Gregory 2. Him working for the bad side and then going for the other team so to speak would explain both why Gregory doesn't trust Vanessa, but also why she's hunting him down in the first place 3. It's why the animatronics know his name 4. It easily explains why he's so hesitant on saying his name to Freddy- in case Freddy recalls him and tries to kill him too (Since they're most likely wanting to kill him due to betraying Burntrap's plan and such) 5. For me it also explains why he was even in Freddy's chest to begin with. That was always a big question I had, but considering Patient 46 is a manipulator, a hacker, and a killer- him potentially being in Freddy's chest to at first corrupt him (since perhaps, with context of the story, he most likely broke from Afton's effect the first time) however didn't for whatever reasoning he had Sure, it doesn't explain why he's so clueless and all that, but I will still argue that SB now has at the very least an interesting story with elements on who's really in charge and I love that

[@VillainVac]

chica’s the only animatronic to know Gregory’s name before vanessa learns it from freddy’s blunders. gregory would also be used to using a pen-name prior to sb so his hesitation to answer freddy could be him deciding which name to use. and im gonna add on gregory going by dr rabbit could just be from the dr scraptrap arcade machine since he’s a gamer(which also means he might not be working with glitchtrap/burntrap and vanny at all but instead be doing some other evil) why would burntrap suddenly be so aggressive and hostile to his controlled minions if he isnt that mad anywhere other than the trailer lines. alternatively burntrap could be threatening two enemies since he specifically says “you will do as i say” the princess quest”cassidy” and the blob are the most likely enemies for burntrap to have. ty

[@nerdyworld938]

I’d add that maybe Gregory doesn’t remember because he was possessed by the glitchtrap virus like Vanessa and that maybe he freed himself from it too?

[@Alexpg19]

The thing is, he doesn't seem to remember. He knows nothing about vanny, glitchtrap nor burntrap so it doesn't explain why he is afraid of Vanessa or freddy. Also, Vanessa doesn't seems to remember nor knowing about being controlled by glitchtrap, she is probably only looking for him because is her job as the security guard Maybe Tony went to the pizzaplex to free Gregory and then got captured by Vanessa, but then why would Gregory not say anything about it idk.

[@Fragmentsinfractals488]

Gregory might be Clueless because he was possessed by Glitchtrap, another vessel . So, he doesn't remember himself until we start playing him. Basically, Glitchtrap begin transmitting himself through the pizzaplex and lost control of GGY. So, Afton sends Vanessa to capture and brainwash him again.

[@ifranco0202]

perhaps its a split personality. the ggy personality is the killer, but something happened to give us the personality of the gregory we know and love. As such its not that he is remembering vanessa and freddy and not wanting to give his name to freddy or not wanting to be caught by vanessa, but he has a lingering gut feeling he is going with resulting from the other personality

[@the_godbodor7026]

Freddy having a personality shift like he does between GGY and SB I’ve seen RyeToast talk about is how, if Gregory does have Afton’s consciousness in him to be later extracted into the Burntrap body, then Glamrock Freddy would have commands to protect Gregory, hence him staring at the main character in GGY when he’s looking into GGY. Then, when Gregory gains his body back and runs away from Afton and Vanny, Afton uses Glamrock Freddy to find Gregory and he does so in the opening cutscene for SB where his “Capture Gregory” and “Protect Gregory” commands counter each other and cause him to have a system malfunction. Then he boots into Safe Mode which flushed out the virus and is why he is the only non-aggressive animatronic in the game. Heck, even his extreme protection of Gregory could stem from residual data of the “Protect Gregory” command which had been in him for who knows how long while the “Capture Gregory” command got removed or repressed (the latter could explain him killing you when at low battery as that command manages to resurface when his system defenses are weakened).

[@laraschroeder5195]

I completely understand why this would be part of the story and it's very interesting and could be deeply explored, I'm just slightly disappointed that the character I connected to and loved the most in this game was the bad guy all along. I really loved Gregory, he was my fav character, and while I can see it from a narrative point of view and it actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it, I feel really betrayed that the character I loved most and wanted to protect was bad all along

[@dianamnajarro5119]

If it help, he was probably kidnapped and possessed by Afton for (according to the timeline of the book) for several months. Greg, in the book, was the new kid who came out of no where. One therapist found out 46's true identity, and said they lied about abuse when they had a healthy happy family. If this is Gregory, therapist could've been trying to get him to see reason but that session ends with 46 leaving very distressed. God, I wanted to smack that therapist.

[@screenery958]

maybe the high scores are the numbers people are assigned when coming to the pizza plex for the first time, so maybe Gregory is telling Vanny who to kill, this would also explain why Gregory does not have an ID, just in case if he accidently chose himself

[@tokki3149]

that seems more convoluted than saying gregory doesn't have an ID because he's either homeless or a robot (as much as i dislike gregbot theory .. )

[@screenery958]

@@tokki3149 i was saying that as a possibility, ill change the would to could, and with thos video i dont know how i feel about gregbot even though i used to believe it but even if he is a robot he could need an id so he does not get kicked out because if freddy did not reconize him then maybe the day ( performence mode) they will try to get him to leave, this can be proven with freddy trying to get gregory out even though he knows the danger

[@skycreeper0173]

This was honestly crazy to me the moment the reveal came. I know it’s very controversial, but at the same time, it makes a lot of Security Breach’s flawed story make sense. And I cannot wait to see what Ruin has in store. Awesome video.

[@1Tombb]

Same

[@nashthomas1843]

At first I was iffy on the idea of Gregory being 46, but after thinking about it, it could make a lot of sense, at least under the idea he got glitchtrapped, it would explain the unused line from Burntrap in the trailer "if you fail me, both of you buuurrnn!", both of you being Vanessa/Vanny and Patient 46/Gregory. It also explains freddy's unused line in the files "Gregory, I know why your not in the database, I remember you from the-" Freddy was going to say he remembers him from when Greg hacked him and used him to kill the therapists. I have also seen people present the idea that the balloon World arcade game is to gregory as Princess quest is to Vanessa, it's the game that Afton has gregory's soul trapped in allowing his control over him, this is supported by there being cut lines in the files of Balloon World that were supposed to play once you Glitch the game that say "Hello?", "Come meet my friends", and "He made me do it", this could have been gregory talking trapped inside Balloon World, and people think that at some point someone (probably the person in the arcade conspiracy messages) played Balloon World and Glitched it freeing Gregory leading to SB.

[@Imaroo]

I can't believe that the theory I came up with a year ago seems to have been on the right track! i am as surprised as you are about that. You'd nearly convinced me otherwise haha.

[@Xainos28]

I think I am more mad that we have to find game lore in purchasing books to get it, even earlier books in explaining Sun and Moon were once assign to the theater before coming to the daycare and explaining the purpose of the generators being in the daycare. It's honestly frustrating and stupid and I can see Scott perhaps is gonna use the books to explain more of Glamrock Bonnie and the destroyed cafeteria we see in game.

[@absolutechadd8895]

This! But what could be the alternative to dropping lore in the books though? Making games takes a lot of time.

[@theelusivesbeve8021]

damn, gregory had to deal with so much at such a young age. i wonder what happened in order to have him go to therapy?

[@theelusivesbeve8021]

@Viewer Ah yes, MEAT PRETZELS

[@Zero-fo3rq]

This story has really gone off the rails in my opinion

[@sonixx3272]

Yeah it's an absolute mess

[@ghastlyanarchy1720]

to be fair it was never really on rails to begin with.

[@TheOnlyPedroGameplays]

@@ghastlyanarchy1720 yeah fnaf is more point and click

[@Gremlin_Boi_]

@@ghastlyanarchy1720 well I mean there was a story I feel like FNAF 4 an SL is where shit went kaboom

[@pieofchart]

@@TheOnlyPedroGameplays That's until we get House Of The Fazbear

[@aiiv7839]

Honestly, I was not a big fan of this revelation at all, at first. But as time went on, I think that this is very interesting.

[@1Tombb]

Based

[@DiamondBatToons]

My brain hurts now. 💀 Just when I thought this story couldn't get any more complicated.

[@justaguy2182]

At this point, the story is so convoluted that I’ll believe anything because literally *anything* is possible.

[@jordanbrandon81]

I always take the novels as soft canon to the games. The novels are definitely on a seperate timeline and the Fazbear Frights/ Tales of the Pizzaplex seem to tell carious goosebumps style stories in the world. Almost like a multiverse of sorts. I look at the books as providing stylised truths. Such as the concept of Agony and how it functions seems to be universal or close to it. But exactly how it presents itself is different. So I look at it like this. We have the games timeline, books timeline(s) and later the movie. All built in the same core setting and rules but variants if one another. Like I said above a multiverse of such. So I wouldn't take it forbadum bit as a point in the right direction. God knows this series is complex enough already why not make it more messy to determine what's truth and what's turn of phrase

[@geanpierea5008]

No, with Fazbear Frights maybe could be true, some books can't be in the games, but Tales of the Pizzaplex are all canon to the games, that's what sets them apart.

[@jordanbrandon81]

@Geanpiere A as in 1 to 1 canon? Maybe they just blur a bit in my head. Unsure but the payoff here better be something worthwhile as by the sounds of it it's a bit messy. Well messier than I thought if all canon. Hoping the wider picture fits better than the sum of its parts

[@geanpierea5008]

@@jordanbrandon81 i mean, the stories are still..."decent"; but yes, the Tales Of Pizzaplex are all canon to the game, that doesn't mean they're interesting, important, or relevant; canon only. the most interesting is the one that has just been filtered, because it has to do with Gregory

[@jordanbrandon81]

@Geanpiere A yea I've seen rundowns. Wasn't there one about goo that caused a global cancer pandemic or something? Or was that Frights? Not saying they are or aren't interesting just it makes the story more complicated. I swear after Simulator we jumped to a side timeline haha

[@imaginefun13]

@@jordanbrandon81 the cancer story makes it clear at the ending with the main character wondering whether or not she is still stuck in a simulation. I know it's supposed to be open-ended, but obviously the world becoming overrun with goo monsters and a cancer pandemic is really ridiculous. Imo she is stuck in a simulation. Just like that black mirror episode.

[@bageljosher]

I’ve been trying to mention ggy’s initials on the game machines but I didn’t think it would be this big of implications

[@bigwatermelon4487]

GGY sure does change a lot

[@0-springytears-0]

This thought just came to mind I love this theory and I’ve just come up with an idea for it What if the animatronics aren’t actually trying to KILL Gregory, Afton is making them return Gregory to him so he can get Gregory back in his control… This idea not entirely impossible

[@WatchPoppy69]

true, i mean its not been confirmed that when the animatronics capture greg, they actively kill him. even moon. i highly doubt they kill him, i think they prolly take him back to vanny for her to deal with him personally.

[@Kayta-Linda]

That’s one of the earliest theories since the game came out.

[@titan7789]

That's why he is alive in the DLC,William can still use him.

[@0-springytears-0]

@@titan7789 yes, good thinking

[@titan7789]

@@0-springytears-0 Thanks,lol

[@cxrpse666]

BABY GGY MAKES SECURITY BREACH EVEN MORE TERRIFYING

[@ForgedinPrint]

You're the second person I have seen in a long time that points out you were wrong immediately. I think this is the first time I have seen your content and that already has me respecting you as a theorist.

[@cimi1272]

99919 99199 91999 look like characters moving on a stage. like the 1 is slowly creeping towards an exit

[@dusk-smc3188]

I will say, the scores that are over 99,000 kinda remind me of binary... like if you replace the 0 with 9... maybe that might lead to something? I dunno, maybe the high scores are supposed to be some kind of coded message? This could be my arg loving side talking though, but it's not like there isn't precedent in the history of fnaf to hide lore info like an arg. The teaser images, stuff hidden in the code of websites, and the survival log book revealing the name Cassidy to name a few. To be honest, the whole fnaf series kinda gives me the vibes of a big arg... which probably is the only reason I am staying around and keeping an eye on the fandom, just to see where this crazy rabbit hole goes... joke intended.

[@porcelainchips6061]

"You are broken" ... Does Greggory have amnesia? It's a tired trope, but it could explain a lot. And with the therapist, I think the biggest detail is that the sessions were being recorded and set back to the pizzaplex. I think it shows someone knew something was going on and they were in the position to try to investigate it. Vanessa could be ordered to go to therapy to keep her job; Greggory could be threaten in all sorts of ways. The dialog from Monty in the trailer (note; he has a more "southern" voice in the game, but in the trailer there's a light British undertone to his speech) indicates someone is mad at two people. Two people have a "job" and they are it screwing up.

[@higueraft571]

It's important to note, Vanessa doesnt seem totally aware Vanny is going on, exactly. Plus if we went "X is a robot" route as well... The books also state "The Dead Forget.", that the MCI children not only forgot that Afton killed them, but also their original identities. Say... Susie believing that she's ACTUALLY Chica, not "Susie". If Greggory or Vanessa arent Human, who's to say they'd even remember? The MCI kids' memories were so warped they thought William was their Hero.

[@10sproductions28]

Also a fun little gag. In the story, They do name drop one arcade machine that is actually in the game. The only place I could find it was in the back of the fazcade. (The machine is called Bunbarbarians).

[@laurenelizabeth4528]

I also think vanny and gregory know each other but arent on good terms the night of SB

[@BatBoy2627]

8:35 this one is notable. The 87 could be for the bite of 87’ and 333 is usually a holy number, possibly symbolizing that the crying child is in heaven or the flipside?

[@Keegan8r]

8:30 The outlier scores start with 87 and 23, and we know of events that take place in 1987 and 2023 - almost certainly a coincidence but interesting nonetheless

[@MrProbeNWatch]

Makes me wonder if this reveal was originally meant to be in the game hence the "when i found you, you were nothing" dialogue from the trailers. Yeah its on a Vanny mask to make us think its connected to Vanny but in game I could see it being directed to patient 46

[@isaacbear7115]

The scariest thing this revelation does is encourage people to play security breach

[@Jedi-ge6lr]

Not really.

[@genghiskhan3665]

The most puzzling mystery there is in fnaf sc at 6 am and after why isnt there any employees or managers clocked in at 6 am and after there nothing stopping them because vanny couldn't hack the doors because gregory could still escape at 6 so where are they

[@KatKaiju]

I just realized-if Gregory is possessed by Glitchtrap and gets all those high scores, that’s just Afton being a dick and flexing. 💪🏻 😂

[@EveCat2343]

I think it would have been cooler if Security Breach is the story of how Gregory GOT the Pizza Pass, and the reason he goes in at night, not only is to play games, but to visit Freddy. As it stands, why doesn't game Gregory have the Pizza Pass, even if he doesn't have his memories, he should still have the Pass right? If he has been affected by Glitch Trap, and is part of all of this, why is Vanny after him? But also, aren't the books not cannon to the games, and hasn't the franchise used the name Jeremy several times for different characters? I wouldn't be surprised if the writers aren't in the loop, and just trying to make a story that fits everything together.

[@Dumbo-zx7oc]

It’s because he is being posses by glitchtrap his nick name to tony is rab which is short for rabbit and also it’s mentioned that he is the wizard Favourite which make sense cause glitchtrap took over his body that’s why he is so confused in security breach it’s because glitchtrap went inside burntrap that’s why he able to hack into freddy in the boss battle and Gregory was a temporary vessel that’s why in fnaf vr glitchtrap said have you found one yet he was talking about someone he could posses temporarily it also explains why 46 had good childhood its because Gregory probably had a good family. Also explains how 46 can hack into stuff so good it’s just glitchtrap hacking into things like virus

[@katastrofic78]

Oh my God matpat was right. I don't think he was right about the robot Gregory thing but he did predict Gregory being patient 46.

[@anewcryptid]

I don't think the arcade high scores have to be a code or anything. If GGY/patient 46 is a skilled hacker and very good with technology, getting all the high scores could just be a flex or something

[@Dumbo-zx7oc]

In the story its confirmed ggy was hacking the animatronics crystal a high schooler found ggy in the animatronics code and tells tony

[@Gmex_ONE]

Wow this is big news! Great video 👍

[@thatdoomslayerblader8008]

MatPat might not be going crazy afterall

[@Dumbo-zx7oc]

Matpat: and they called me a mad man

[@thatdoomslayerblader8008]

@@Dumbo-zx7oc LMAO

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

I hope it's not that he was being forced to do what he did by Afton. Atleast not in a direct way. It would be better if he just redeemed himself, perhaps erased his own memories after setting his scheme to undo what he helped Afton do. It would be interesting to have an actual morally complicated and developed character in the lore.

[@azureblooet5053]

I think that freddy being nice in security breach is probably because of safe mode. His system crashed I[m guessing safe mode is probably a low-resource mode so he wouldn't overheat or crash again. I'm guessing that safe mode didn't start whatever software the glitchtrap virus is in and even possibly cut him off from he main server. that or The server was set to not allow any non-glitchtrap infected things. before his system crashed and was booted in safe mode he was probably completely under glitchtrap's control. Alternatively his short circuting may have corrupted or damaged the program which glitchtrap was attached to given that the crash happened while it was running or being booted. this could also explain why his battery is so bad although that probably wasn't the intention.

[@raelogan]

Yo, what the actual heck, tho. This changes so much

[@insanelyred7101]

New theory vid? *I have found my meal video*

[@siramaytheshowgundragon]

Yeah I mostly agree with you besides the near end stuff but yeah at first I don't like it but if they plan it being Gregory is actually possed by afton like a sleeper agent then I would love that

[@Shadowxx25]

Cue Matpat pulling his hair out.

[@Axoleah]

To quote Freddy “…I am not me”

[@laudj_art]

Fuck fnaf lore, i look forward for Fnaf plus, i feel like Phisnom has a better and consistent story than what this franquise has become

[@WatchPoppy69]

this makes me want SB:Ruin to be a prequel now because of this. lol, i had a feeling that patient 46 was not a charlie bot like Fuhnaff theorized , but this is still a stretch lol. Even if they're saying in other languages patient 46 is female, i personally think scott did that on purpose to throw everyone off as to who the real P46 is. but yeah greg being P46 does only make sense if he was possessed by glitchtrap by that time. it would also make sense why freddy saw him as a 'high-level threat'.

[@Magicman1625]

Another round of FNAF theories?? Let's go dive in!! 😁

[@pogdogPlush]

I think patient 46 is actually a crossover with HITMAN, and 46 is a childhood friend of agent 47 (ФωФ)

[@-anominus-333]

Patient 46 is a Hitman, Agent 46 more precise

[@janrafhael2885]

Me who found out that Patient 46 is G.G.Y. be like: WHAT THE FU🤯

[@SillySunnyTacos]

There was already a theory of Gregory being the patient. This is still neat tho

[@jokernoob9905]

How does Gregory go to school if there aren't any records of him? Or were the records in SB referring to logged records of him entering the pizzaplex?

[@dihte1628]

Most likely logged records.

[@sabre3923]

GREGORY/GGY

[@sabre3923]

2:21 Gregory Afton Gregory is a Robot 🤖 YES

[@nyc__ez]

i made a video on my channel explaining more in depth in what i’m about to say, leakers uncovered a lot from the fnaf security breach files right? there’s still secrets right? i haven’t seen anybody talk about these hidden symbols in the endings of security breach. i can see why a lot of people overlooked it because it transitions quick.. someone said it was just “ textures “ but this is fnaf we’re talking about & the “endings” we got.

[@viktorhollywood5210]

I haven't seen you're previous video BUT. When you said that patient 46 is manipulative (YES always and lie s lot), haker(Freddy) and killer(all the glamrocks). I immadeatly though about Gregory. And in the second BAM you've said it.... That's on periodt

[@alternativeaccount6568]

8:30 over 9000

[@lucashampton6269]

As much as I am not a fan of this move, it at least gives SB some kind of story now so small victories I guess?

[@sydneyshriver]

has anyone yet to try and decode the highscores in a decoder? could be interesting

[@sabre3923]

Name Gregory/GGY

[@pineapplesdonotbelongonpizza]

I’m going to keep it a stack with you I thought the thumbnail said gay conspiracy

[@youwishforbile]

theory : gregory is trans and it was before he fully transitioned.

[@neasulavuori4955]

i...just...i can't....it....there's just too much stuff here that points to charlie, the obvious omnipresence of her with the nightmare staff bots and the nightmarionne plushies, the fact that EVERY translation uses she, the line about liking MASKS, the fact she doesn't seem to like the outside where she died and honestly i think it's somebody killing the therapists in order to either protect charlie or her identity in some way

[@ZOMBiFOX13]

I thought the thumbnail said gay conspiracy instead of ggy conspiracy.

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

Very simple answer bad writing

[@ABP0727]

ggy is sans

[@Jeraco24]

Fnaf should if need at custom night

[@TheLastMarch2.0]

Ooh!

[@New3DSLuigi364]

The Only way I Can see Gregory being 46; Is If Security Breach as a Whole; was A BIG FAT LIE; Cooked up by Gregory to make him look like the good guy; and the only way for him to be able to fool the Players into thinking he's a victim; IS IF HE WAS SELF-AWARE!! and I Don't see ANY of the Characters Being Self-Aware; it doesn't make sense for the story; to have ANY of the characters to realize that they're in a Story!!

[@alexandruvasile4460]

Extra mega plot twist number 1:GGY is Elizabeth Afton that is disguised as Gregory with the help of an illusion disk☠️☠️ Extra mega plot twist number 2:GGY stands for Glitchtrap Gregory☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@Yunooki]

YKNOW I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE THUMBNAIL PROPERLY and thought that it was just GAY conspiracy

[@kayee_.nugget3446]

Hi

[@anonymousviewer6244]

Yay the story still sucks!

[@lordkilljoy9652]

Man if this is the reveal I'm done with steel wools story. Like I don't have any concrete reason why but this just doesn't work foe me at all... it just feels bad and stupid- which honestly feels like steel wool's writing style by this point

[@Piiiiiiiiit]

The idea of 46 and Gregory being two different facets makes so much more sense. The motivations and cluelessness were the main reasons I strongly disliked the ‘greg is 46’ theory to begin with, and the explanation makes enough sense with what we (probably??) know about how Vanny and Vanessa’s characters function.

[@TheCoolNintendoGuy8593]

this is probably the biggest stretch of all time but they also said help wanted had secrets that weren’t found so put those codes into the wall in the fnaf 3 part of that game because I can’t think of anything else

[@Dumbo-zx7oc]

Bruh fnaf 3 hasn’t been updated in a long time and I’m pretty scott originally planned it to be the end of series the books literally spell out who 46 as ggy is Gregory i honestly don’t get what’s the stretch here

[@AnimeGamerCreater]

just an idea wat if the ar game killed the theripists? the basement has a lot of unused endos and stuff and they do do delivery with the pizza delivery app

[@CaptainRickey]

This doesn't satisfy me in the slightest, but it's clear that this is supposed to be the answer to 46. That being said, how in the everliving fuck did Gregory, a child, ever convince someone - no, multiple people - to build a giant pizzaplex over a dead man's grave? To just chalk everything up to "he's a really good hacker" feels like a cheap way out of a conversation. "How did Gregory acquire this much money?" -> "he hacked a couple banks" "How did Gregory convince this many people to build a pizza plex?" -> "He had plenty of money." But if he was so good at hacking, how come he didn't recognise a virus on an arcade cabinet and got possessed by Glitchtrap? this is very contradictory, to the point that it's almost laughable. To me it doesn't make sense if it was ONLY Gregory. It feels like he would've gotten some help. Also does this make him the post-it note kid? Or is that a different thing? Either way, this might help to explain what the hell happened so far. Whether you consider Gregory = patient 46 = post-it note kid or not, the timeline should be: - Gregory gets possessed (how? idk) in the ruins of the pizzeria - (if you believe Gregory is post-it note kid, then this point in time might be where the post-it notes are coming from) - Gregory creates Fazbear entertainment - Gregory orders the pizzaplex to be made (how? idk) - Gregory orders a series of games to be made by indie developer - Gregory orders a VR team to make their own versions of those games - Gregory lures Jeremy/Tapegirl/Vanessa under Glitchtrap's control - Gregory follows Vanessa's footsteps making sure she doesn't spill the beans - Gregory assassinates anyone she tells too much or that asks too much (but not Luis? why? idk) - Gregory hacks into systems to hire Vanessa as head security of pizzaplex, which is nearly finished - Gregory implements glitchtrap virus into pizzaplex - Gregory somehow escapes possession (how? idk) - (if you believe Gregory is post-it note kid, then this point in time might be where the post-it notes are coming from) - Gregory gets recognised by Freddy (how? idk) - Freddy short-circuits (why? idk) and reboots into safe mode - Security breach events But then there's the whole "have you selected one?" "I have" thing that throws a wrench in that plan, doesn't it? Because it might be that Vanessa chose Gregory as a subject for the Glitchtrap virus in the first place. In that case, the question remains: who the fuck ordered a pizzaplex on a dead man's grave? And who greenlit the idea for two separate sets of game design companies (one indie)? and WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM???

[@Fragmentsinfractals488]

It is the Storyteller supercomputer A.I found in the Storyteller books that I theorized helped. It was infected and turned on the "mimic" protocols.

[@ExValeFor]

Nah I don't buy it. If we can have like 5 Jeremy's then I'm sure GGY/Greg can somehow, magically, be a different character

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

Yeah but 'Greg' is described very similar to how Gregory looks with his hair and eyes. And is directly tied to the same storyline. None of the Jeremy's had that.

[@ExValeFor]

@@erickamakeeaina1649 Counterpoint- Vanessa/Vanny. Yeah I know it's almost certain they're the same (even if it makes no sense logistically) but they go out of their way to show two identical people in one of the endings. Post-SL fnaf absolutely loves multiple versions of seemingly the same character active at the same time just so it's as confusing as possible

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

@@ExValeFor God, imagine if we get a cloning storyline. Maybe they go into the 'real world manifestations of digital characters' thing mentioned in help wanted. Both Vanny's are manifestations of Elizabeth and both Gregory's are crying child manifestations.

[@Kenny-ot4yx]

The fact that nobody can come up with anything that makes real sense. I blame the devs man the game was just so terrible mechanically and told nothing meaningful lore-wise.

[@higueraft571]

Ahem... *FNAF AR exists.* It simply serves as a transition between VR and SB. It was to be a time-gated game, rather than all-in-one deal, except Illumix decided they didnt wanna FNAF and pretended AR never happened. Abandoning the game after a few patches with CRITICAL chunks of the plot just... unreleased. Security Breach gives us quite a bit, but it's clear it suffers from two aspects. Overambition. And Time. First is simple, Devs wanted to make The Best Fnaf, a REAL live location you'd want to visit, that you could explore and STILL keep finding more, and so on. Secondly, Sony. They saw the Holiday Release coming up, told Steel Wool "release now or we dip", SW likely replies "uhh, it's not done, can we get a month or two?" Followed by "No, release NOW." SW scrambles to push something out by the deadline, they cut Acts 2 and 3 of the pilot's storyline, and shove the most bare vital components in (disappearances, The Blob, Afton Ending, etc) and push it out. Similar thing happened to ANOTHER Sony published indie game super hyped up... No Man's Sky. Also finally >nothing makes sense This is FNAF, Phone Guy is Purple Guy. FNAF 4, just FNAF 4. Sister Location. Whatever the fuck FNAF WORLD is. Miketrap. 83 vs 87 vs 85 bite 1 MCI vs 2 MCI Shadows Etc all prove the plot has always never made real sense.

[@Kenny-ot4yx]

@@higueraft571 haha. You have a valid point, I can't argue against that. 😆

[@higueraft571]

@@Kenny-ot4yx Honestly, the real crime is that people bash SB when we could all bash AR instead with it's literal Microtransactions and Fazcoins :V

[@irladovelasquez975]

Heres my theory about Gregory what if gregory has a clone a evil clone who has been tampering with animatronics for long time and some how got in therapist the real gregory can't even afford therapist that means thats not Gregory I think gregorys clone is GGY because they couldn't have say his full name gregory but for GGY I think it's Gregory clone and glitch trap is possessing Gregorys clone and maybe Gregory has a evil clone who has been tampering with animatronics for long time so yeah maybe Gregorys clone has been hacking animatronics because during beginning Freddy got malfunction because gregorys clone triggers virus or vanny must have use illusion disk to turn into kid just like eleanor did

[@gren442.]

bruh I thought you said gay conspiracy in the thumbnails 💀

[@laurenelizabeth4528]

So what im thinking is that for unknown reasons freddy went into safe mode and gregory had to manipulate freddy into believing he was an innocent kid being hunted by Vanessa and trying to escape,

[@higueraft571]

Except Greggory is VERY much seemingly innocent in this case. Why would he NEED to wait til 6 AM? Why would Vanny be hunting if he's cooperating?

[@Jobroski47]

The lore after FNAF sim is a tad bit unorganized

[@Sporaticzzz]

Security breach lore started off seeming like a lazy undoing of fnaf 6 but thankfully the new books kinda explained the stuff that made no sense

[@KeyOfTwilight777]

"We're missing something" - yeah, we are missing an actual story. This plot by breadcrumbs approach is annoying as hell. Feels almost like they want the fanbase to write the story for them. Lazy af lmao

[@higueraft571]

More accurately, it's Breadcrumbs because they had to cut the whole-ass 2nd and 3rd act of a storyline for time, cramming only the most critical parts in (eg afton's Blobbing) I'd say Overambition is a guilty party, but I suspect Sony is *MUCH* more to blame ultimately. The files and bugs on release show how fucking frantic the last days/hours before release probably were, probably not Doom Eternal OST frantic (and hopefully less shitting on the artist)... "It's release season, the time of biggest profits. You release NOW or we screw you, as the Publisher. No Delays."

[@KeyOfTwilight777]

@@higueraft571 ill grant some of that. Many games have issues due to being rushed out. But breadcrumb storytelling has been an issue the entire time. It was fine with the first two games but by the time SL rolled out it was getting old. Dont get me wrong i still enjoy following along and its fun to see channels theorycrafting but i worry we will never get a clear story lol.

[@higueraft571]

@@KeyOfTwilight777 Yeah, definitely valid there :V

[@skrub_king]

Lots of languages other than English just give masculine or feminine pronouns to any noun

[@silverboltscrapper]

But Patient 46 is a person, not just a thing. Masculine or feminine nouns would be big clues

[@skrub_king]

@@silverboltscrapper Yeah, I guess it was most likely lost in translation then

[@blueblur1763]

Is tales from the pizzaplex Canon or not?

[@WolfPlayz015]

Tales from the Pizzaplex is the only book series canon to the games

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

Its not directly canon. But like the Silver eyes trilogy and Fazbear frights, it's supposed to fill in blanks and answer things

[@SirJad_]

As someone who writes I find it fascinating how this story just gets worse and worse. I have no idea what's going on but my best guess would be two many people with slightly similar ideas being unable to create a well rounded mystery plot due to balancing multiple creative minds with PR departments and producers. Even though Scott does control the narrative, a simple mistranslation from a ghost writer/subtitler in gendered language made this mystery literally impossible to solve until it was just bluntly said to us. The use of red herrings is boring, uncreative and frustrating as its a cheap way of creating an unsolvable mystery. I think keeping the books and the games separate is the best way to begin to fix things then mend the story with the Ruined DLC.

[@Jedi-ge6lr]

I have to disagree.

[@SirJad_]

@@Jedi-ge6lr *throws peanut at you* NERD!

[@Jedi-ge6lr]

@@SirJad_ Give me more.

[@OutOfNameIdeas819]

FNaF’s lore is only good for watching it get worse and worse as time goes on.

[@FunWare.mp4]

People have to stop taking the books as 100% canon... just wait for the dlc, I dont think we are going to find out who patient 46 is until then, stop trying to fill in the unknown INSTANTLY with the books.

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

The issue is that we know books are supposed to fill stuff in already. To connect to things to help us come to certain conclusions. This is way more on the nose and straightforward then the franchise has gotten in a while. So it's clear what the story is telling us.

[@higueraft571]

@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad Proof? Did Scott confirm?

[@FunWare.mp4]

@@erickamakeeaina1649 Well yeah duh but people dont need to instantly go the books to solve stuff, it seems so easy but It just complicates the lore and makes people believe stupid stuff like the crying child is named Evan/Chris. And it seems so easy to come to that conclusion, but would Fnaf esaintly hand us a whole story which is like 90% cannon? I dont think it could be THAT on the nose.

[@FunWare.mp4]

​@@higueraft571 No tales from the pizza plex is not 100% cannon, just like the other books it only helps add to the story a little.

[@FunWare.mp4]

@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad Tales from the pizza plex is not 100% cannon, Scott never said these books are cannon, but are just like the other fazbear frights books, I can try and find the tweet or whatever.

[@lwes4]

it in the BOOOK book have never been canon

[@WolfPlayz015]

The Tales From The Pizzaplex books are canon

[@geanpierea5008]

The Ultimate Guide reveal that the games are not reliable and that we have to focus on the fazbear frights to know the truth. what differentiates Fazbear Frights from the Tales of Pizzaplex is that with the former, you have to see which are canon and which are not; the seconds are completely canons

[@lwes4]

@@WolfPlayz015 no they're not they are not canon that is just marketing

[@lwes4]

@@geanpierea5008 again no they're not only three games were finished in that story and people have already debunk to this stop watching matpat he just comes up with the worst theories

[@geanpierea5008]

@@lwes4 first, TOP are canon, so screw it, accept it. Secon, of all the stupid garbage of theories that Matpad has made (vanessa is elizabeth, Gregory robot, and more garbage), this was the only one that really had evidence, and patient 46 was perfectly Gregory or Vanessa

[@TheLurkerFox]

Well-- The 9000+ codes made me think of binary, since it's 9 and 0 are so close in programming However, did you give us all the codes? Coz "00010 00100 01000" gives nothing.... The codes are also too short for Decimal code, but all together is too long, so it gives me "Undefined" aka, it's not that code. The second set I tried to match through an alphabet - but I don't thin FDEEE EEDEF and FGFDE is the thing we are looking for... Might wanna check through other number related ciphers. I found that it might be the Octal code, and the Octal code gave me this -> "�me��" The rest is garbage code, but this is becoming interesting. That being said, no guarantee it's the Octal Code, however, the Cipher identifier I used gave it to me as the most likely option- 23 4 12 is a date likely... April 12th 2023 or December 4th 2023. I think it's a dev hint. 87 - bite of 87... 333 might be just filling in the gap here, unless it's trying to emphasize that there were maybe 3 kids involved? Coz in the cutscene in Fnaf 4(??? If I have my ducks in order here) it was shown that the crying child was yeeted into Fredbears mouth by 3 kids. Also many ciphers use keys... Maybe GGY or Gregory could be a cipher key?