DNA in doubt: The JonBenet Ramsey Murder - Part 1

[@jenniferdaniel359]

LORD PLEASE let there be justice for this sweet baby

[@paisley2739]

I agree!!! I pray every night that we will find out.🙏💕I have a feeling it was the dad /mom who had a group hiding underneath the basement and had them kill her. Pretty sick family

[@bethryan9077]

@@paisley2739 You're not right in the head lovey, go get Help.

[@ceciliapreziose3783]

there is mom died

[@INFJ2]

We will never know, never be convinced of the "truth" bc it was all botched from "go."

[@debrahouse7807]

I THINK IT IS TIME TO ARREST JOHN RAMSEY AND THE HELP HE HAD, KNOWN THAT HE DID THIS!!!

[@glazierblue573]

The police are so beyond stupid. Bad enough they botched it up from day one... or even help cover it up. It was there job to follow up every lead, even just to rule people out. Not waste years... decades even on all the 'what if!' There are so many theory but there is one that ties all the cover up together. The Ramsay were pimping out there daughter to there rich powerful well connected business friends, and it got out of hand. Those shows they had her prancing about in, were more for there "friends" benefit. I wonder how much more wealth and power Ramsay got because of there daughter? There are so many paedophile among the powerful. The Ramsay covered it up and messed up the crime scene on purpose. A child been abused is bad enough... a child been abused who dies, even accidentally, that's a hole new level. And it wouldnt suprise me if John was responsible for her older injuries. Sexual abuse had been happening long before she was killed. Pervert like to share! Not to mention this was a tip off that was sent to a detective who wasnt on the case. Of course nothing came of it. But that DNA is from someone high up and wealthy. There protected. Not saying this 'is' what happened. No one will ever really know. But it's the one theory that ties everything together.

[@paisley2739]

I know. Its so unfair and sick. I bet the dad was involved in like a creepy gang and had a few guys kill her. He needs to be put in jail!!! I bet burke saw and knows more....

[@bethryan9077]

@@glazierblue573 LUDICROUS

[@glazierblue573]

@@bethryan9077 can you be more specific please?

[@bethryan9077]

@@glazierblue573 I have posted Facts about this case above. What I tell is Not something made up from my head, just Known facts

[@lourdes1863]

The father abused her ! The mother lied . The brother is the other victim !

[@SC-sn3xs]

That is definitely what happened! Sick! Many people turn their necks the other way when the perp is "well" off and an "upstanding citizen" He definitely abused her and what's sick is that everyone around is protecting him because he is wealthy.

[@Dtown1975]

Or maybe the Mother was jealous and she did it. 🤔 Maybe

[@ruthcarter1360]

Very interesting and possible angles. Yes I think the child might have said she's going to tell someone!!! Maybe very strange family dynamics 👀mother could have also been control freak???

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

@@SC-sn3xs It is all those like Yourself who are the sickos. I suggest that you go get Help.

[@susantaulli730]

Who paid off Mary Lacy?

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. Nor do you Care to Find Out because you’re all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about each & every member of her family instead. You watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hate-filled agendas & post that as if facts. Shame on you all. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because you Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw - Case Evidence which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence & online for all to source. You people are nobodies & clearly y’all are not very bright so just get over yourselves & leave this family In Peace.

[@bethryan9077]

So, according to Your thought processes - John paid off about 20 police & detectives, 3 DAs & assistant DAs from more than one jurisdiction, multiple seasoned investigators, the best criminal profiler in the country, one of the best homicide investigators in the country, at least one Federal Court Judge, many top forensic scientists from several labs over a span of 25 years, many expert crime scene techs, top forensic pathologists, CeCe Moore, JB's paediatrician, FBI agents including those in charge of CODIS, John Douglass, Lou Smit, Paula Woodward, lots of friends & acquaintances including neighbours, work colleagues, at least 2 Secret Service agents, 4 renowned private writing analysts, multiple investigative reporters, both of their pilots, plus the innumerable high cost attorneys in charge of multiple litigation cases as well as all the representations for himself & Patsy & many of the family in relation to a number of reasons & that's just off the top of my head. REALLY?

[@stephaniesmith5974]

I cannot imagine a 9 year old boy not having cracked and told someone something if he had a part in it. I used to think the parents did it with one covering for the other, now I am not so sure!

[@USArmy91222]

@Sandra Turajlich the problem with your theory that Burke did it,is exactly what Stephanie S. pointed out! the Boulder police would NOT have much of a problem cracking a 9yr old! also,if you watch his video interrogations, when asked how he thinks his sister died,he first says she was stabbed to death..we know she was not stabbed to death!

[@emiliadavis8247]

@Sandra Turajlich Burke was also a month away from turning 10. I think your opinion, is how it happened, also. The smearing of feces was done by Burke, in their bedroom, I believe, also.

[@emiliadavis8247]

@Sandra Turajlich that's interesting and scary that Beth Holloway noticed that in John Ramsey!! Could you point us as to where to read that, or see it in a video?! Just curious to see it for myself. Thank you!

[@emiliadavis8247]

@Sandra Turajlich yes I forgot about the neighbor hearing the scream! It probably was Patsy screaming, as she realized Jonbenet was dying!!

[@gutenbird]

Emilia Davis Doubtful. No way Patsy wasn’t the killer. Poor Burke. Freak mom kills his sister and he gets the blame.

[@raea3588]

Of course the DNA is not just from one person. It's accumulated DNA because this is not a game of clue! This is not the mother did it or the dad did it or the brother did it or an intruder did it. This crime would have taken more than one person and even if it hadn't more than one person handled JonBenet's body after it was found. Horrifically contaminated crime scene. Even if she was killed at the hands of her own parents a strong case against them would be extremely hard to build because of the mess the police created. There was no choice but to drop charges against them and eventually rule them out altogether.

[@letsreallytalk9482]

I believe the house maid and her husband had something to do with this. They needed money and asked for a loan but was turned down, had a key to the home, knew the broken window cause her husband was supposed to fix it, JonBenet knew them and trusted them so it could explain how she had eaten pineapple prior to being killed, they had zero alibi, they had access to the notepad and could of taken at anypoint, they knew the family used the back stairs so left it where it could be seen, knew the dog was gone, knew their trip plans, had seen the fathers bonus check stub which is why she asked for a loan. It all may be circumstancial but it's pretty compelling. I believe the DNA was mixed up because of the police screwing up so it shouldn't be used. With the Ransom note it's clear it was someone close to the family or the family. The reason I say its not the family because they really didn't have any motive to, the maid on the other hand does and the reason they killed her was because she possibly refused to go with them and put up a struggle so they used the stun gun to knock her out and on a small child it can easily knock them out, and when they knew they had been identified they decided to kill her instead and didn't remve the body out of panic and left. Hence the reason no footprints found in the snow cause the came through the drive way and would of felt comfortable in the home if caught or someone woke up early because they could of said they forgot something or leaving a gift as surprise. Anyway the maid at first said the family were good people then after the murder stated they were bad possibly trying to push blame on them. Anyway enough evidence to show at least strong circumstancial for them being the likely culprits. They needed money and they had access to the home as well prior knowledge of the bonus and the home layout without fear of questioning if caught in the home. A random person wouldn't have time or knowledge of this and it rules a person who randomly stalked her off

[@emiliadavis8247]

Patriot Fan where is the video of the housekeeper, and/or husband, stating that the Ramsey's turned her down for a loan? As rich as they were, and knowing the housekeeper as they did, it is very difficult to believe they wouldn't give her a loan.

[@fitzgeraldsemelfort3938]

Going down a big rabbit hole

[@INFJ2]

U raise really good points that I didnt consider. Still makes ya wonder why the Ramseys didnt interview w police and millions of other questions.

[@bethryan9077]

@@INFJ2 The Ramseys did Nothing to themselves by way of ‘how they acted’ At All & the 8 cops & detectives there that day, had No problems believing they were Genuine. Officer Rick French was the first person & officer to arrive & within 6 minutes of the start of the 911 call. He had John & Patsy sit in the sunroom & he did a cursory look around then officer Veitch arrived. The Whites, the Fernies & the pastor arrived at different times & sat in the den & sunroom. It was going to be a long wait that, the note said Tomorrow. The cops called two victim's advocates to come who were also present from early that morning. Linda Arndt didn't arrive til 8.10 a.m. & with detective Patterson. At different times early that morning, 3 cops were tasked with checking entry & exit points, all 3 Failed at that job. 2 of those 3 officers plus one taking photos went down the basement at different times, all 3 failed to flip the latch down on the top of the cellar door, pull open the door & go in. All 3 saw gear in front of the train room door & by-passed that door as did Fleet White. The broken window is Not where the perps entered the house, but the BPD went to great lengths to make sure that the public Still don’t know that their cops didn’t even know about that window til that Evening, when they Went Back. Arndt wrote a favourable report about the Ramseys & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a Frenzy because the child was found murdered in the home after 1 pm., when many cops had been there for Many hours. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. What better way to shut the Ramseys up about the cop's Failings that morning than to throw mud at the Ramseys, via the Media. Within one week, the Ramseys were ducking for cover & the cops were cleaning their nails. It was Arndt who picked the body up from the foyer tiles & to the living room rug near the Xmas tree. Many weeks later, she was put on desk duties, didn’t like that & quit. Her next job was as a tree lopper. *It was the lousy Cops who should have found JB & early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon & he did Not go straight to the cellar. Arndt tried to sue the BPD for Money but the lost the case. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too.. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain due to the court case & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to do all she could to help find the killer of her precious child. Due to Arndt’s stories in that hilarious interview - many of the public believe that Arndt was the first officer at the scene & many believe she was the Only officer at the house all day when That is not true either, but her & the BPD are more than happy for the public to believe That BS Also. Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow but deliberately didn’t mention That either - for her breakout debut with a numbskull reporter whose only job was to try & keep a straight face. The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. He asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas was an ex-narcotics officer & had No experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. Thomas constantly talked about the Book he was going to write & if anyone went against his theory, they were out. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The Present investigators had No concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house. False & misleading information was being leaked to the media. The cops were made to publicly Apologise later for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. The Ramseys went broke trying to find who murdered their child & hoped to Save another. When the money ran out the Seasoned investigators continued Unpaid. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on National TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue Still. Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & had bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that & a pair of black pants to the White’s Xmas night dinner. They were up so early on the 26th because they were to take their plane to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at Minneapolis airport & then all were going to their Charlevoix house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt Patsy wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again. That morning, she threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. She planned on having a bath when they got to their holiday house, after the long flight. Patsy was using the Wall phone that was in the alcove near the kitchen. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Really had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. Burke did Not move from his bed til he was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m. He was Never a suspect. One needs to think about the Major Players behind this Saga of who did what - Steve Thomas who blamed Patsy, Linda Arndt who blamed John & James Kolar who blamed Burke - neither of these 'cops' had Ever worked a murder case before or after but, who were all about writing a Book, who all got their mugs on TV for fame & fortune. All Proven Liars. I can feel a Movie coming on. Dumb, Dumber, Dumbest

[@bethryan9077]

@@INFJ2 This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. Nor do you Care to Find Out because you’re all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about each & every member of her family instead. You watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hate-filled agendas & post that as if facts. Shame on you all. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because you Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw - Case Evidence which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence & online for all to source. You people are nobodies & clearly y’all are not very bright so just get over yourselves & leave this family In Peace.

[@ncf1]

John Ramsey slipped a wad of cash into Mary Lacy's coat pocket, gave her a wink and that was that. Off scott free. Same with Alex Hunter.

[@raea3588]

John Ramsey did not kill his daughter. But I think he knows who facilitated it.

[@darkhorse9472]

ncf1 There is no evidence to support your statement.

[@bethryan9077]

@@raea3588 This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. Nor do you Care to Find Out because you’re all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about each & every member of her family instead. You watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hate-filled agendas & post that as if facts. Shame on you all. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because you Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw - Case Evidence which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence & online for all to source. You people are nobodies & clearly y’all are not very bright so just get over yourselves & leave this family In Peace.

[@NancyBird-kc1ck]

I also believe John Ramsey could have paid people off. Money talks. That's his world. Also a financial supporter of Boulder police dept. No evidence to say he did? No evidence to show he didnt either.

[@TreesRgreen123]

So a grand jury voted to indict and this decision was just ignored and brushed under the carpet? Why? If they voted to indict a broke family with no money i wonder wud the decison be carried out or ignored.

[@bearboss9290]

Till this day I believe that the brother killed her on accident and her parents covered it up

[@gutenbird]

The evidence points to the mother not the brother.

[@feartheghostinme675]

@@gutenbird why would her mother kill her it was probably a friend of her dad I'm almost certain I watched every video about this case and visited the home too

[@gutenbird]

@@feartheghostinme675 yeah. Still. Just look at the evidence and forget all the spin. The dad sure as hell didn’t write the ransom note.

[@feartheghostinme675]

@@gutenbird their is NO good reason as to why the mother would kill her she was her star child in the pagents I don't think jealousy had nothing to do with this it's easy to blame the parents and her brother because they where their but I think outside the box an intruder definitely did this 🤔

[@gutenbird]

@@feartheghostinme675 You don't need a reason why. You didn't know those people and even if you did you didn't know those people. But Patsy sure as heck wrote the ransom note. She sure as heck didn't change her cloths all night long or anything about her appearance. Sounds like someone who stayed up all night long.

[@almamedina2902]

Be good when this case gets solved and closed!

[@jimtysonfury9725]

Does she still have her job? ...payoff ..,. Once you have a title like that there's no accountability for incompetence you still hold on to your job ... It's all about the title and what got you there her motive was not to prosecute the most primary conclusive subjects

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. Nor do you Care to Find Out because you’re all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about each & every member of her family instead. You watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hate-filled agendas & post that as if facts. Shame on you all. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because you Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw - Case Evidence which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence & online for all to source. You people are nobodies & clearly y’all are not very bright so just get over yourselves & leave this family In Peace.

[@bethryan9077]

So, according to Your thought processes - John paid off about 20 police & detectives, 3 DAs & assistant DAs from more than one jurisdiction, multiple seasoned investigators, the best criminal profiler in the country, one of the best homicide investigators in the country, at least one Federal Court Judge, many top forensic scientists from several labs over a span of 25 years, many expert crime scene techs, top forensic pathologists, CeCe Moore, JB's paediatrician, FBI agents including those in charge of CODIS, John Douglass, Lou Smit, Paula Woodward, lots of friends & acquaintances including neighbours, work colleagues, at least 2 Secret Service agents, 4 renowned private writing analysts, multiple investigative reporters, both of their pilots, plus the innumerable high cost attorneys in charge of multiple litigation cases as well as all the representations for himself & Patsy & many of the family in relation to a number of reasons & that's just off the top of my head. REALLY?

[@anastasiamitsos5072]

Money - Power covers everything 👀 they know exactly what's happened, & who kill her...the note is from mother with her own pen....

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. Nor do you Care to Find Out because you’re all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about each & every member of her family instead. You watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hate-filled agendas & post that as if facts. Shame on you all. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because you Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw - Case Evidence which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence & online for all to source. You people are nobodies & clearly y’all are not very bright so just get over yourselves & leave this family In Peace.

[@bethryan9077]

So, according to Your thought processes - John paid off about 20 police & detectives, 3 DAs & assistant DAs from more than one jurisdiction, multiple seasoned investigators, the best criminal profiler in the country, one of the best homicide investigators in the country, at least one Federal Court Judge, many top forensic scientists from several labs over a span of 25 years, many expert crime scene techs, top forensic pathologists, CeCe Moore, JB's paediatrician, FBI agents including those in charge of CODIS, John Douglass, Lou Smit, Paula Woodward, lots of friends & acquaintances including neighbours, work colleagues, at least 2 Secret Service agents, 4 renowned private writing analysts, multiple investigative reporters, both of their pilots, plus the innumerable high cost attorneys in charge of multiple litigation cases as well as all the representations for himself & Patsy & many of the family in relation to a number of reasons & that's just off the top of my head. REALLY?

[@jamesradskijr.9745]

Beth Ryan was involved 😆

[@bethryan9077]

@@jamesradskijr.9745 Aww, I have already had to Correct a great deal of your BS & at more than one site. Now you revert back to your 5 year old Self & BTW - your emoji also shows the level of your Intellect. It must be soo terrible for people like You, to Read that some people Know the Truth about this crime And, the Truth about the Case & the Truth about what Actually happened to JB & post those True Facts. As Opposed to all the hate-filled & idiotic garbage that 1000's of people post on all sites. The Same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. These Same people call names At the Ramseys & accuse them of disgraceful & vile acts against Both Kids, Including this sadistic Murder of their 6 year old Child. Then those who are even Worse & do Same to the 9 year old Kid because of a TV show. You all post your Garbage about this fine upstanding family who were All Proven Innocent a Long time ago. FYI - All have the Right to Defend Them. BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? Only morons believe Patsy Did That! Not everyone is guilty of being an absolute imbecile deary. There are people with Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes who can envision scenarios of what may have happened. Then there’s Loads of you who Clearly aren’t very bright & repeat all the Garbage that started from tabloid magazines & that shite grew legs into books of BS, TV shows & so onto YT videos. Y’all then post about your Baseless ‘observations’ due to your Ignorance, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to something called Evidence & by a bunch of Actual experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does Not Mean that it doesn't exist. The Exoneration was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important, yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial, so the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like Yourself. Doh. Like soo many others, You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If fact. At The Same Time, you all Make Up a whole lot of Other Shite & post that As If factual too. Yawn. I do something called Research lovey, isn’t that friggin shocking. LOL. You & your like watch TV & read books of BS, copy other highly Ignorant victim basher’s BS, then repeat it all like well trained monkeys. Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one of the perps has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that Cleared loads of suspects including known perps & then in 2006, John Mark Karr who said he did it. The DNA that Continued to clear suspects & up til this day. BTW - what part of Exonerated do you Not understand? Oh, that's right, go get an Adult to look up what that word Means.

[@lougromaski5254]

I can’t believe DNA is so irrelevant. First time I’ve heard of this.seems political…,

[@jamesradskijr.9745]

This case will never be proven.

[@bethryan9077]

The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. *Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.* The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. *NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!* The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent. **The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.

[@chrissyart7984]

What have u determined with the DNA..If it's multiple ppl, like 3 of them,,THEN REVEAL WHO THEY ARE???? EVIDENCE IS THERE...WELL HOW IS IT NOT SOLVED 25 YRS LATER??

[@TarasTarot]

It’s not multiple complete sets of DNA, it’s a mix of multiple people’s DNA being seen as 1 person’s, which is why it won’t ever match anyone. The DNA has ruled people out who probably shouldn’t have been.

[@bethryan9077]

@@TarasTarot The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@bethryan9077]

@@TarasTarot This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. Nor do you Care to Find Out because you’re all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about each & every member of her family instead. You watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hate-filled agendas & post that as if facts. Shame on you all. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because you Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw - Case Evidence which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence & online for all to source. You people are nobodies & clearly y’all are not very bright so just get over yourselves & leave this family In Peace.

[@bethryan9077]

None of that is True, but let's say it was. Well, the cops can go & arrest John Mark Karr who Said he Did It & then they can go & arrest a whole Plethora of Others who were also Cleared due to the DNA evidence. @@TarasTarot

[@Beckiner67]

@@bethryan9077 i wonder if they have tried familial dna testing on the male DNA? Finding the perp through genetic testing and family lines/trees on ancestry etc. (edited. Your replies to the various comments have been really interesting)

[@trixiec4880]

The Ramsey's had these children late in life, Patsey had IVF to conceive. they both look in there 50s when this occurred. This murder was sadistic, you don't get parents that age with zero history of the slightest behavior problem or incident just go psycho one single day in their life and barbarically murder their child on Christmas night and together embark on a massive cover up. Just doesn't make sense.

[@Elle-on8wu]

I disagree that there was insuffient amount of DNA.

[@lynamor2959]

She did it because she KNOWS that it was done by an intruder, & I agree with her. Give the okay to run DNA on the underwear,_dang it!!! Just do it!!! What are you waiting for, governor??!!??

[@ACV975]

If she was killed by the kidnapper why would you leave her body there in the house. You would take her body out of the house and still try to collect the money. This is a complete sham. John needs to go to jail

[@davidwilliams4498]

You seem to forget a simple reality that was verified by a neighbor at 130am night JB was murdered. A neighbor heard a loud short scream that quickly stopped. Very likely she was silenced an murdered an they cleaned her an hid her body in an old small room of basement. Who would take a dead body if it was a kidnap gone wrong or a flat out murder.

[@ACV975]

That’s a very interesting fact. That would mean she was alive at 1:30 am. But yet her headstone has her death on Dec 25. Why not say she died on the 26, unless you know she really was killed on the 25.

[@teresawaddell455]

I am jonbenet's brother Robert and I didn't live in the same house JonBenet my sister lived in I miss my sister and I hope one day my sister's killer gets solved

[@abba4life37]

Wasn't the DNA mixed with blood? I'm confused!

[@joanlynch5271]

It is her blood mixed with the DNA of two different people, I think both men, and the foreign DNA doesn't match any of the known suspects. I wonder how hard it would be to bring DNA to the scene of the crime to confuse investigators?

[@bethryan9077]

@@joanlynch5271 The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. The same Steve Thomas who later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but were Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was Unknown male DNA evidence, from the public’s consumption. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. John & Patsy never received subpoenas to appear & so they were prevented from testifying. They wrote to Governor Owens about this & he didn’t even reply. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but Unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was his marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Mark Beckner eventually found some integrity & publicly stated “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing True About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The bits you Think you know about this case - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. **The Boulder PD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.

[@mpol701]

The dna wasn't strong enough as this video states

[@bethryan9077]

The DNA from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003, In Fact. The FBI's national database only accepts Qualified DNA. The DNA from way back then not only Cleared the Ramseys but Loads of others including known pedos & the John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. The investigation continued with expert Seasoned investigators who Never preened themselves for TV shows Nor did they write a book of Lies for the sole purpose of their Own financial Gain & the plan was always to deliberately Fool people like You. Forensics advanced & the Ramseys were finally & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 & the investigation Continued & the DNA continued to Clear suspects. Further forensic advancements & testing, two male DNA on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, one is hispanic & one Matches the saliva that was mixed in one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants. Then there's the Fact that there was/is over 200 pieces of Actual evidence that Showed someone Was in that house. You kids Really need to stop believing all the crap from the back of your cereal boxes & all the same old same old BS on these fooltube shows. The BPD put out a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & have an Adult read it aloud for ya, Slowly. Next - a cold case team were put together not long ago This year & are getting stuck into this case. The government are Not spending mega bucks to go after the Proven Innocent Ramseys lovey. . @@mpol701

[@sheiladonattelar5893]

Stop accusing the parents !!!! They will never do something like that to her own adorable daughter.

[@isa-ed1fq]

SHEILA Donatella how do you know? you never know what they were thinking and what they did.

[@j.l.m.mountaineering1856]

SHEILA Donatella, look at the facts, the killer was never found. The parents hired top notch attorneys. Mr Ramsey knew she was in the basement the whole time.

[@ritaeichler2066]

William Davis so did Mr. White according to your logic. Look at the crime. Molestation, strangulation with a garotte? Loving parents don't do that! To say it was done as a cover up for an accident is totally ludicrous, makes no sense .

[@dub16100]

Dona Sttela are you familiar with the human species?

[@SC-sn3xs]

Have you been living under a rock!? Do you know how many young girls get molested and raped by their own father's!? Look up statistics, it is more common than you think. And he killed her to cover it up. And of course the wife because she doesn't want to believe or doesn't want to lose her lifestyle covered for him.

[@katiemarie6318]

I still believe the brother did it

[@jacquellaspencer830]

katie marie If you believe a nine year old child blunged at strangled a six year old until the rope was deeply embedded in her skin You are a complete idiot

[@darkhorse9472]

Katie marie There is no evidence that supports Burke killed his sister. None.

[@darkhorse9472]

​@@jacquellaspencer830 You are absolutely right! I agree.

[@madison_puppy_680]

Jacquella Spencer well he hit her with a golf club before so maybe he hit her with flashlight and his parents covered it up

[@darkhorse9472]

@@madison_puppy_680There is no evidence to support your statement. The Ramseys were cleared long ago.

[@elenaanch9164]

All of you stop making rumors instead of looking for. A guy .the guy could be from anywhere was a staker

[@sewndebisdream6953]

It's all covered up. Sad!

[@joemacdonald7879]

Think Patsy killed her daughter out of jealousy

[@lisagoodin2959]

Send that DNA to Parabon!

[@suppiahperiasamy6248]

The DNA was planted and is a red herring. Forget about the DNA.

[@bethryan9077]

@@suppiahperiasamy6248 That DNA is in CODIS

[@bethryan9077]

@@suppiahperiasamy6248 This is the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know A Damn Thing about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor Child. Nor do you Care to Find Out because you’re all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about each & every member of her family instead. You watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hate-filled agendas & post that as if facts. Shame on you all. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a bunch of Real experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because you Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who Saw - Case Evidence which Included the autopsy photos, the photo of the skull & the Authentic autopsy report & Loads of other items - that Are In Evidence & online for all to source. You people are nobodies & clearly y’all are not very bright so just get over yourselves & leave this family In Peace.

[@joemacdonald7879]

Should be not dna patsy write the note brook did nothing but

[@loscrimefighter1899]

Occams razor.

[@marthaa2095]

Hi

[@StellaNoire]

Thst DNA was likely old dna from god knows what else the put her through. These people are sick. Its in their eyes