DM Obsessed With LOLI DMPCs | r/rpghorrorstories

[@RealSeanithan]

Story 1: the Paladin was shown to be an idiot from the beginning: he referred to OP as a "heretical beast", but a person can only be a heretic if they belong to the religion claiming orthodoxy, so if it's a question of religion, she would be an "infidelious beast". If the question was over whether her very existence was considered to be unholy, he should have said, "blasphemous beast"/"beast of blasphemy" or "sacrilegious beast" or even "unholy beast created by sacrilege". Pretty much anything would work besides "heretical".

[@jampine8268]

Ok, so the second I hear "Airship/blimp/zeppelin" in a DnD story, alarm bells start going off, air raid sirens, factory klaxons and abandon ship orders follow suite, and GODDAMN WAS IT RIGHT AGAIN. The real question is why does it ALWAYS devolve into the DMs sex fetishes and godly overpowered DMPCs? It's bizarre how it keeps going to the same subjects.

[@DanaOtken]

Hm. From a narrative context, "give the players an airship": * The mechanics of travel are being handwaved away. While there are in fact a lot of interesting new issues with logistics - both keeping the airship going and dealing with that you can reasonably expect just about everybody to now notice your every movement - if a storyteller wants these they often will choose something other than a blimplike transport. Blimps have a passive feel to them and thus are code for "relax, you'll get wherever the story is happening without doing much of anything". * There are good odds anybody writing a blimp wants lots of interpersonal stuff happening with the party. This doesn't have to mean romance or sex, but anybody wanting to focus on that will want to write a blimp to remove all the stuff that gets in the way of romance or sex happening. * Pretty much everybody has sex fetishes and overpowered DMPCs buried somewhere in them, and the people with the fewest inhibitions about letting them out are also the ones who will fail to see any downside to writing a blimp. It's one of those things that works just fine if you're writing a book but doesn't work fine with actual other people playing characters.

[@brianjohnson1509]

I had airships in my game once, it never got into fetishes or weird shit, and no npc was over level 12 so they were all killable, but I seem to be the exception to the rule.

[@SquirrelGamez]

I mean, if you hear "airship/blimp/zeppelin" in a HORROR DnD story, of course you'll be right about alarm bells and such. I've seen them used in perfectly fine games as well.

[@Ieatpaste23]

The anime rune soldier did a quest with a little girl well. She comes to the team with her piggy bank, it has a little over a dollar in it. She wanted to hire them to find a flower 4 her grandmom. They accept and the team and little girl go looking for the flower. It's a really nice episode.

[@theofficerfactory2625]

I think I remember that episode. Love the show.

[@Ieatpaste23]

@theofficerfactory2625 It's a great show. It blew my mind that a comedy would be a part of the "Legend of" series. I think you have to use kids sparingly in a game. Because anything bad happening to them makes the story darker and more evil than it otherwise would be. I'd rather do what rune soldier did as a rest quest. It would be a good way for monster characters to make friends in a town.

[@Saturnfanboy]

*Sees Rune Soldier reference* Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

[@Ieatpaste23]

@@Saturnfanboy I love that show. I've watched maybe 10x. I couldn't help but think it was like someone rolling the stats for the perfect fighter but playing a wizard because why not.

[@blockeontheleafeon]

@@Ieatpaste23 So an Eldritch Knight. (A Fighter who has the ability to cast Spells.)

[@Phantomcuffs]

Another case of lawful stupid and bullying masquerading as “it’s what my character would do”

[@ArcCaravan]

Lawful stupid sounds like part of the masquerade.

[@ShepardCommander]

The first story is 100% fake.

[@Here_is_Waldo]

@ShepardCommander you have a much nicer view on people than I do if you think that couldn't have happened.

[@ShepardCommander]

@@Here_is_Waldo i am also extremely experienced in actual D&D. Combined with the fact that stories like these in reddit are more likely fake than true, makes me pretty sure.

[@zacharysieg2305]

Last story: PERSUASION IS NOT MIND CONTROL PERSUASION IS NOT MIND CONTROL PERSUASION IS NOT MIND CONTROL

[@starofjustice1]

Wait, it's not? That's a relief.

[@AbstractStew]

Okay, I guess they changed that. Must have been a popular house rule adopted company wide. A little bit unnecessary to nerf persuasion that way, but I can adapt. Stealth is still invisibility, right? Right?

[@SageTigerStar]

The only campaign I ever played in, there was a VERY Meta-gamey "That Guy" Rogue who basically got everything he wanted because he was the carpool for half the group and the DM didn't want to lose all the players because of it. Party stumbled across a Deck of Many Things and while most players chose to draw a card, I didn't, as my character had knowledge of the deck and what misfortune it could bring. Rogue tells DM "I persuade them to draw." and DM doesn't even ask them to like...give me a reason in roleplay or in-person, he just allows the persuasion roll. Rogue Succeeds it and I guess for some reason I'm forced to draw from the deck even though I had clearly stated that I wouldn't, just because the rogue was like "*C'MOOOOOOOON*". Being new to DnD, I felt it was a little overpowered to be able to just control another player's character against their will, and I found out later on that I was right in thinking that. The DM just sucked and the behavior from the Rogue was right up his alley of being a terrible person.

[@oneandonlymario659]

Why are so many that-guy Paladins so focused on other character's origins? Why couldn't they go a less adversarial way and be driven to redeem characters with demonic heritage?

[@shadiafifi54]

Because a) that would require too much actual _work_ and b) anyone who picks on another player usually doesn't do so with good intentions in mind.

[@ChaosCounseling]

One of my best Paladin players went that route

[@eddy_malouempereur_du_cong6536]

Because they think Paladin = Warhammer 40k inquisitor

[@ArcCaravan]

Because religious warriors are associated with bigotry in fiction.

[@NOHTenma]

I played with a very virtuous orc barbarian. While pvp was possible, the player was very good with keeping in character and communicating what he viewed as sus and what was situationally acceptable The DM cottoned on to his aggression and had him accidentally murdering an innocent. That broke him. It lead to him being a little more lenient towards the less than virtuous characters because he could no longer call himself blameless. He was hostile towards me when I made a pact with a demon but instead of attacking me outright, he decided to stick by my character to prevent her from doing anything too egregious. He was an awesome player. Above table we bicker like siblings so it lent towards our arguing in game. The other players thought we really hated each other😂

[@thehowlinggamer5784]

Oh, this is gonna be a good one with Dr. Wierd in the thumbnail.

[@arsenalxa4421]

"Gentlemen, behold! My DMPCs!" "I dunno, man, they're all little girls..." "FBI, OPEN UP!!!"

[@Gormfeld]

@@arsenalxa4421 the FBI could just walk through the giant hole in the wall made by the Rabbot. lol

[@AbstractStew]

I can't believe I missed Dr Weird in the thumbnail.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

GENTLEMEN, *BEHOLD.*

[@Doodle1776]

That final story is why I state in my rules that there will be no PvP allowed. And rolling against other players is PvP. Whenever anyone has the idea to convince a player to do something the player has to use their actual words and not roll to force fellow players to go along with it.

[@Jardo]

3:04 “heterical” 😭😭

[@ShepardCommander]

it was a fake story 100%

[@SSFplayer2]

The loli story sounded rather tame lmao The only bad thing was the op dmpcs in my opinion lmao

[@ArcCaravan]

I just imagined the lolis as halflings, lalafell, or that short girl in Granblue Fantasy Versus.

[@SSFplayer2]

@@ArcCaravan thats one way to do that lol

[@wilberwhateley7569]

I for one have no problem with it - short females of legal age exist in reality and can be mistaken for kids, so if that serves as the inspiration for characters in a game that’s ok in my book.

[@SSFplayer2]

@@wilberwhateley7569 plus lots of people associate lolis with fictional only. So even that kinda has less worry to it lmao Bit weird, but its not bad lmao But agreed, just seems very tame on that

[@Unseensmoke5745]

simba stared into my soul LMAO

[@vexaria7939]

I don’t know Doge. With story 1, maybe talking with Paladin and retconning might work. But there is also a chance that the player may hold animosity towards OP and the group. He seems like the kind of guy who can’t let go of something. He might just come up with another reason to off OP’s character. But I could be wrong

[@Juju2927]

I would agree if it wasn't for the Paladin player's second statement. When he realized that he was in the wrong for attacking for his race, he tried to find another reason to have OP's character kicked and "Win the argument". Besides, players who are actively trying to kill another PC on a whim first session aren't types to apologize usually.

[@vexaria7939]

@@Juju2927yeah, that is also true. The kind of guy that will die on that hill, even if it’s on fire

[@ShepardCommander]

Story was fake, doesn't matter.

[@ChobinoftheFunk]

​@@ShepardCommander you got proof of that?

[@ShepardCommander]

@@ChobinoftheFunk Yes, an indepth understanding of Dungeons and Dragons over a 10+ years experience as both a player and DM, both in official settings and custom settings. First of all the introduction of a Spellblade and Priest classes seems to suggest this is a 5e campaign, because both pathfinder and 3.5e already have classes that would fit the roles as described. A lot of inconsistencies seem to point at a faulty story, the paladin "casting smite on the daemon" - that's not how smite works. The Paladin being barred from using their healing powers from breaking their oath to their goddess because Oathbreakers can still cast lay on hands, same goes for smite. The general lack of understanding on how paladins get their powers. Oaths are not to gods or goddesses, they are to a set of values. Some may chose to roleplay as pledging to follow the values of a god, but breaking their oath doesn't remove their powers, it makes them oathbreakers, with different powers, but they keep "divine smite" and "lay on hands" (healing). The irrelevance of "differences between daemons and demons in the lore" to the act of attacking a party member for a race choice. Both are evil fiends, both can be summoned and made pacts with, and unlike devils, they aren't as likely to fully respect their pacts. This is irrelevant to the situation though. It almost has a "and then everybody clapped" formula, which is a high suggestion of not only fiction but also bad writing. It is pretty fake if you know what details to look for.

[@Yoxiv]

"Gentlemen... where is my Hairarium of insight with +3 modifiers?" "Your what?" "MY HAIR HELMET WITH BUFFS!" "Oh! Well that's right there... on your head." "Oh... BULLSHIT!"

[@dpv007]

"NOBODY EXPECTS THE LOLI INQUISITION!"

[@shadowpanther4800]

Sorry Doge, but I have to disagree with the first story assessment. Yes it should have been above table, but that was proof that the player didn't listen or bother looking up the lore. Just decided he was right and everyone else was wrong, then got mad when proven wrong and tried to make another excuse. They even gave him chances to stop and save his character by rewind his actions starting the fight before the last blow, but kept going. Granted the dm should have had a chat with the paladin after that smite warning. Chances are just as likely that the instead of changing his actions if corrected, the paladin would have doubled down and stayed antagonistic to the spellblade for contrived reasons.

[@soldierbreed]

Gotta side with doge on this one. Wether or not it would have made a difference is irrelevant to the fact the attempt should have at least been made. Nothing was too egregious to warrant paladin being kicked therefore i think some actual communication stood a chance of helping

[@marybdrake1472]

Of course there is a "that guy" paladin player right up front. I doubt however, having that information up front would have stopped the player.

[@Tony2-Dirty]

It definitely wouldn’t. Remember that even after they explained the difference, he tried to excuse his actions by saying that OP’s character was too overpowered

[@marybdrake1472]

@@Tony2-Dirty Exactly so. That player was going to be a problem no matter what.

[@ArcCaravan]

Yeah, Doge trying to write it off as paladin just having a misunderstanding felt like an attempt at fitting a lesson where it doesn't belong.

[@marybdrake1472]

@@ArcCaravan In this case, yeah.

[@arnoldschpeiker7887]

DM-WEIRD: “GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD! I HAVE INSERTED LOLI DMPC’S INTO OUR GAME! And upon retrospect, I ask “Why?”….” Player-Steve: “Eh…I dunno, I’m sure some finds that interesting. So did you do that for the plot, or-?” DM-WEIRD: “NO, BECAUSE IT’S MY FETISH! AND THEY’RE ALL YOUNG, THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEIR DOING!” *loli DMPCS strike magical-girl poses* DM-WEIRD: “MY IMAGINARY WAIFUS!”

[@Juju2927]

I feel like whenever someone makes a character with strong bias towards some stuff (be it actions or IN GAME races), it needs to be stated at session 0 so others can take into consideration whenever they create their characters. For instance : if one's backstory is they hate Orcs because their family was massacred by some, and someone makes an Half-Orc in the group, they should discuss to see if the first can handle it, or if either the first's backstory or the second's race need to change for good cohesion.

[@ArcCaravan]

Wholeheartedly agreed. I actually saw something similar with a character that was enslaved by standard evil drow before escaping get in a party with a drow who just wanted to explore the surface with no evil involved. The two got in a fight because the former kept badmouthing the latter then played victim afterward. Neither player knew the other was planning those characters. The game wound up restarted with new characters.

[@brodiddy877]

If I was DM, I’d just railroad the paladin. I don’t allow disruptive behavior on my table. Im a new player friendly DM and I want ALL my players to have fun. I support and allow any and all type of dialogue but I do not allow pvp and disruptive or sabotaging behavior

[@yvettewaters]

All I saw on my KZbin notification was Doge has a new video it took me a sec to see the title I almost choked on my breakfast 😅

[@DuranMK2]

That thumbnail is perfect. I can totally imagine that happening in an episode of ATHF.

[@theofficerfactory2625]

Intro: I don't think Simba's seance is gonna make me not feel like throwing up after hearing this potential PDFile story that is coming up. Story 1: Bloody heck Paladin? Paladin and rogues; the common classes for "that guy". Sigh. Well done, DM. Story 2: Oh boy, that title. No, no, no! Not again! (the cringe and pain!) Story 3: This is my biggest fear as a DM but I fear accidentally doing this. Deliberately... 15:11 what? (mashed eject button) Ok, not PDFile but... why? You suck, DM! Rory Mercury is a lolita, not a loli dirtbag! (that is what sounded like whom OP encountered thrice) Story 4: Uh, what? No, no, no! Persuasion does not work against player characters unless that player consents or allows it to go through! Oh; kinda understandable but even I knew not to allow players to roll against each other. Sigh.

[@kainslegacy78618]

(Story 2) Let's not forget about the other toxic girl encouraging the DM. A female giving crap to another for no reason, where have i seen that before?...

[@Ieatpaste23]

I think it's fine to have high level or epic level npcs with low level parties, but these high-level guys should be patrons and quest givers. Being hired by Mordenkainen to do something is cool, having him do everything or fight your level 2s is not.

[@mirrortherorrim]

So, the Paladin from the first story basically played the Spear Hero, but without the princess episode, and without the redemption arc.

[@ArcCaravan]

My first thought at the title was "halflings". Second thought was "hopefully people know I'm joking". Third thought was "lalafell". Fourth thought was "I forget gnomes exist and do not care".

[@monikasernek1177]

I swear if I ever become a DM - the pink potion is a thing in my house rules.

[@danielramsey6141]

Some people weren’t meant to play D&D. Same for being a DM.

[@FranTheNerd]

it's very nice to hear no matter how much i question my dm skills, i will NEVER be as bad as the loli one jesus christ

[@SpellbladeKnight2105]

Ahhh the Spellblade. Though i wonder if its a class of the DM's design or if its the Spellblade homebrew on. . . Dndwiki i think? That Paladin though is just . . . Wow.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

At no point in the game was it explained his way of playing was unwelcome. Quite the opposite actually.

[@kainslegacy78618]

Third story is essentially about, yet again, another power-tripping DM wanting a captive audience for their cringe DMPCs.

[@R3GARnator]

Doge is a big fan of Griffon Wing Keep.

[@KingAstolfo69]

Poor simba must've read the stories simba has that thousand yard stare

[@sekaiwanderer]

I think I lost the staring contest with Simba.

[@theratking013]

Ofcourse you do, no human can beat a Cat in a staring contest and they can stare for a long time without blinking , a Cat focusing on Prey can even stare longer without blinking.

[@sagekoh3158]

Oh god. I was not ready for eyes open simba 😂

[@TheSomeone499]

Dr Weird: Gentlemen, behold! My cringe thumbnail! *close-up of Dr. Weird's thumb Dr Weird: Not that kind of thumbnail! *shows this video's thumbnail Dr Weird: That's better.

[@vortega472]

Ah Simba - such wisdom in those eyes.

[@REfan2002]

Hmmmm, Creepy DM watched too much Hero Shield and Gate.

[@ArcCaravan]

Or they like halflings and lalafell.

[@dimitrilitovsk2372]

Well, i will say, there are sometimes lore reasons for a bunch of kids, but its usually wierd. Like we did a skyrim dnd campaign, and we killed grelod the kind and had to spend a whole session escorting the kids across skyrim to a new orphanage. Granted its homebrew with a lot of 5E rules, but in this case it made sense to have a session with a bunch of kids, but it was never much beyond that, other than a letter received from the new orphanage signed by all the kids

[@starofjustice1]

3:04 Yeah, and even money he's gonna be a "that's what my character would do" That Guy.

[@samwhary5498]

Every that-guy paladin makes me wanna field my juxtaposition joke eldritch paladin more and more.

[@yaldabaoth2]

I can never understand staying in groups like in that second story. Just leave right away once you get overruled to do something you don't want to do.

[@1Sky1Earth]

Bau bau! Thank you for another new story

[@dionnejinn3789]

Simba staring contest! ❤

[@akmi1931]

Personally, I have nothing against the “powerful loli” trope. When used well, it’s can be done successfully. But the reason the trope works is because it’s used *sparingly*. Frankly, I think that DM’s worse sin is the railroading and terrible story

[@JT5555]

one D&D idea of mine i came up with that i still really like is the *LOLI STRIKE FORCE.* a group of lolis of different races (all of them adults,they just look really young) who are really good a killing things,travel the lands to bring down corrupt overlords and sex offenders with their comically large weapons.

[@Wintercide]

Look guys, i made a new character for our D&D game. They have 3200hp 34 strength, 27 dexterity, 22 intelligence, 30 Wisdom, and 84 charisma. They also have a super cool spell that does 8d10+int+wis+char modifier and can target any number of targets in sight. Aren't they super cool and interesting!!!

[@justinmargerum2559]

Intro: Simba! Pesky Paladin: Lawful Stupid strikes again! Toxic DM and Party: Forced 'shipping never ends well, and presuming it to advance to an intimate relationship and pregnancy without the player's input or consent is BS. Creepy DM's DMPCs: Wow. Very first paragraph. Absolute 🤮 right off the bat. Okay; let's soldier through this... The main story is creepy, but serves as more of an exemplar on how NOT to run a DMPC than anything. DMPCs should never absolutely outshine PCs, nor should they make player agency absolutely irrelevant. This DM was basically playing with himself using dolls while making everyone else watch. Give Me Your Gold: I agree with OP. Between PCs, social interactions should be resolved via roleplay rather than a die roll.

[@7thsealord888]

Story #1 - Lemme guess. All through this, Paladin's Player was saying, "I'm just role-playing my Character." I don't put this on miscommunication by the Group at all, but entirely on Paladin deliberately choosing to be an @$$. Having one Character dislike or distrust another can make for an interesting game. Being on alert for treachery and so forth, fair enough. But Paladin went well beyond that despite warnings from the DM and that the Daemon had not shown any hostility in return. No sympathy whatsoever, and my respect to the DM and the rest of the Group for handling this as they did. Story #2 - If you are uncomfortable with the direction the game is taking , then always always ALWAYS *say so* . Seriously. Even if it seems like a minor thing or something that you expect will pass in time. If nothing else, you'll learn everything you'll need to know about that group from their reaction to your concerns. I do wonder if there is something more to this story, but OP is clearly better off out of that group. Story #3 - Yeah, this DM was given a lot more chances than he deserved. Enough said. Story #4 - NOT what Persuasion is for. Yep, a serious talk with the (inexperienced) DM is definitely in order.

[@jrytacct]

It's on page 1 of my house rules document that Paladin is a restricted class precisely because of issues like those in Story 1.

[@dudeist_priest]

The loli stuff is super weird, but the ultimate cringe is bragging about how strong your DNPCs are.

[@jodrakhanthewonderful1642]

Your vids illustrate why I no longer run or play DnD games. The amount of sick bastards out there killed my interest in social gaming.

[@CooperAATE]

Doge is here!

[@Rude_i_Wredne]

That second to last story is quite possibly the worst DM in history in terms of just his skill of DMing. Discussing whether he's a pdf aside, I don't know how disconnected from reality you have to be to think that players will enjoy such a game.

[@ArcCaravan]

There's DEFINITELY been worse DMs here, even with the overpowered loli NPCs. Only way I could consider otherwise is if the suspicion of this DM is confirmed and he has either IRL victims or openly fetishizes them beyond making them instantly win against players.

[@Jakepearl13]

GENTLEMEN BEHOLD!!!

[@Cornfiglep]

I would like to state that as someone with a pregnancy fetish; we do not all act this way and it is not okay to force that on other people in a D&D game.

[@ArcCaravan]

That's what all people say when they're associated with a tabletop horror story. They're usually right.

[@Paxchi]

Story 1: Going to have to disagree with the dog-o here. While I appreciate the advocating for communication, no amount of civil discourse was going to fix that hot mess. All of the players at various points asked why the Paladin was attacking the OP, and he chose to not give them an answer. The onus was on him to explain things to the group if he had a problem with OP's character. Hell, if it was meant to just be roleplaying, a decent player would have made sure the antagonism was okay. Instead, he ignored multiple warnings, multiple chances to explain himself, and got what was coming to him.

[@ArcCaravan]

Sounded like Doge pretended it was more nuanced than it was just to give the "communication is important" lesson.

[@Paxchi]

​@@ArcCaravan In fairness, it's a good lesson, but it wasn't applicable to this situation.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@Paxchi Not uncommon for good lessons to be ruined by poor application.

[@johnwilliammakant8570]

Doesn't matter if he is playing a demon or satan himself. The problem is the paladin player behaviour.

[@ArcCaravan]

Paladin just wanted an excuse to pick a fight.

[@franklangston3004]

Ain't a Halfling or a Goblin just a western version of a Loli?! 😂 I know I offended a few with my comment

[@deepseastonecore3017]

Good morning/ afternoon Guardian

[@lamiahunter]

Diona W. She hella op

[@AbstractStew]

Why would it be okay if the PC you want to kill for no reason is a demon rarher than a daemon? I don't think that matters much. Wouldn't the paladin still be in the wrong either way?

[@ArcCaravan]

Because evil races or something. Probably looking for an excuse to say he wasn't unreasonable to unreasonably target a player character.

[@l0stndamned]

I disagree with you on the retcon thing. Paladin was being a problem and would have just took and "out" like that as an okay to act up more.

[@caaliber115]

Completely disagree on doges take for the the first story. That guy made up their mind immediately on being a problem with the daemon player before their first issues began. No way would they have been inclined to change behavior as they'd find an alternative reason to dislike them in character.

[@ArcCaravan]

Paladin already did that by claiming OP was overpowered to justify hating them, so it's not unfounded to believe "communication problem" applies here.

[@krystlvines]

hey doge, hope you and your family are doing okay

[@greeninja5991]

Why do bad dms keep filling their airships with overpowered dmpcs?

[@alanbear6505]

I’ll never understand this trend (obsession?) with forcing pregnancy on female characters.

[@eirinym]

It's so crazy to me that some of these guy DMs power trip whenever a woman or woman PC is involved... like I get where it comes from unfortunately. But still, why is this such a common theme? Forcing a PC into a relationship, making them pregnant, punishing them at every turn... and even playing a male PC doesn't work because the stories of women trying that instead doesn't always work. Humans suck, especially men in this case.

[@clericofchaos1]

I believe the charisma checks should function like mind control, but only when used on npcs. i would never allow my players to make checks like that against each other.

[@GarkKahn]

For npcs i think it depends It would be like winning an argument, the other should say "yeah, it makes sense", not "yes, master" 😅 Anyway for players it's a NOPE

[@lagartopunkarra]

No, it shouldn't be even for NPCs, players would explot it to no end

[@greasysmith3150]

The way charisma checks work is written in the dmg its just no one reads the DMG.

[@AzureKyle]

Only if the person is using a spell to control them. Charisma checks are just you using your natural charm to convince someone, not alter their state if mind.

[@saldiven2009]

I cannot even begin to explain how terrible an idea that is both from a mechanical standpoint as well as how it wrecks world building

[@dracone4370]

Assuming all of Doge's cats are Tabaxi, what Monk subclass do you think Simba would be?

[@KOBULT92]

Don't. Allow. PVP. Dialogue checks.

[@Michaeljack81sk]

Story #1 might as well have ended with "And Everybody Clapped" for how fake it is. Sure we know most of these stories are creative writing exercises but this is so by the numbers its painful

[@littlegiantj8761]

Yeah, I ended up skipping it

[@ArcCaravan]

Then why bother with tabletop horror stories if they're all fake?

[@ArcCaravan]

​@@littlegiantj8761Better off skipping the whole video.

[@ShepardCommander]

It was so fake I wonder why DnD Doge even entertained it. The amount of times I went "That's not how any of this works" made me wonder if I was going mad or if these people just played the game without knowing any rules or mechanics.

[@ShepardCommander]

​@@ArcCaravan tbf some of them are true. I posted one of mine before. My first ever time playing 5e was an utter disaster. Goes a little like this: Got invited to play by an older girl I was playfully flirting with casually (I did ask if it was ok and she said it was). This is important. I later regretted it, especially cause I never did it out of interest in her, just as a form of playful banter. She initiated it though, I just carried on with it. She was brittish and I was living in England at the time, so I was used to this type of flirting from older women. DM was the boyfriend of said girl, who was very interested in knowing me, and kind of went of on me for "trying to steal his girl" which I had to clarify it was just playful and I did stop it since he felt uncomfortable. He obviously held an understandable grudge against me, but I didn't judge that part of him. I was clearly in the wrong for flirting with the girl though I didn't know she had a boyfriend before. It was mostly combat with little roleplay: I made an halfling rogue and DM told me that he didn't like rogues straight up at the start of a session, telling me their sneak attack was overpowered and that we were limited to one sneak attack on the first round of combat if we had advantage on that hit . He also didn't allow for surprise rounds (both ways which I thought was fair at the time). I was initially annoyed because he didn't tell me anything before the session, or laid any ground rules, or even a session 0 (which was fine since it was a oneshot). We got into our first combat fairly soon, not really sure what it was but I remember they were like 2 enemies. The area was kind of tight. So I stayed back with another rogue and we mostly kept to hiding behind walls and pillars and shooting our shortbows, while a fighter and Paladin fought in the front lines. In the second round, I tried to hit an enemy engaged with the figther and DM decided that since the fighter was between me and the target I would shoot at a -5 penalty (3/4 cover, which is fair) and when I missed (not a natural 1) he decided that I hit the fighter and went on explaining that he ruled shooting into melee like this. I spent the rest of that encounter just hiding behind the wall with my other rogue buddy and we then got told off by the fighter and paladin for not contributing to the fight. We told them that because of their positioning and our tight area, we couldn't either get into melee (they locked down a 2x2 area) or find a better angle to shoot, and we would require them to move their characters so that we could hit. They took that into account for the next encounters. i also apologized to the fighter for hitting him and offered him a potion I had bought before to make up for my clumsiness. He took the potion and the apology and we carried on. We then were surprise attacked (remember what the DM said about no surprise rounds? Well he lied.) by some statues and I just spent the whole fight restrained (no save or check) and taking damage from being crushed by a statue. Other characters were never restrained or grappled even though the statues were all the same and outnumbered us. Since I didn't really do anything special I assumed this was some sort of revenge he plotted or something, but I didn't really care cause I was cheering for the party and getting into the roleplay of it. Next oneshot we had I had his girlfriend help me build a kunoichi (think female ninja), a multiclass rogue/fighter with many thrown dagger attacks (first round) for a level 10 oneshot, thrown weapon fighting style didnt exist yet and he rulled I coulnd't make more than 1 dagger thrown per round because of object action interactions but decided to warn me only on the moment we started playing despite knowing my character and concept a week in advance. Long story shot, he made all the enemies resistant to piercing damage, and ensured even on my best turn (round 1) I would never be able to contribute much to the fight. He also made my roleplay feel useless, one dude playing druid grabbed an enemy and stuffed him in an iron maiden and was rewarded for it by requiring no rolls or grapple checks while I tried to jump over an enemy to flee after disengaging and made a decent acrobatics roll (20 something since I had expertise) only to fail the check and fall directly on the medium sized enemy and fall prone while the enemy didn't. Session ended with party being spared for angering the enemy but my character was captured and tortured and he felt it apropriate to roleplay the torture. Glad I left that group, since then I have been playing with some friends i made in grade school that turned to be huge DnD fans and have never regretted joining them ever since.

[@KatarnandKanos]

So tired of people misusing paladins and giving them a bad name -_-

[@ArcCaravan]

I came into tabletop games with paladin's name being pre-ruined by stories of corrupt religion and the crusades. Could call problem player paladins "historically accurate paladins" and not bat an eye.

[@ShepardCommander]

Its a fake story probably to paint paladin players in a bad light.

[@ArcCaravan]

@@ShepardCommander Then what about every tabletop horror story where a Paladin player is a jerk invoking their name?

[@soldierbreed]

Stop allowing pvp peopke. Half these stories wouldn't exist

[@FirstnameLastname-bp2pg]

PvP is fine in my opinion

[@arinfrankhouse1147]

There was an instance in a session I played (which took place in an extradimensional arcade, at that) where I faced off against a fellow player with premade sheets for both of us - they were limited-use, and we were allowed full use of our characters before and after the match. I lost, but I used the opportunity to help the winner out of their situation, whereupon we shook hands and conducted ourselves cordially. After the session this was in, I brought up that it worked both IC and OOC - IC because the character isn't a raging murderhobo or sore loser, and OOC because I was trying to PREVENT a horror story from brewing, win or lose. The concept of PvP isn't inherently good or bad, but it tends to get ruined when players conduct themselves poorly.

[@ArcCaravan]

Way more than half these stories would exist without PvP.

[@Strike-nz5gy]

1st story: to pull from the Shield Hero comparison, Paladin thought he was Naofumi, but in reality he was Motoyasu (if you’ve watched the show you know what I mean) 2nd story: that DM has accounts on, “those” type of websites, I just know it 3rd story: (if I was a player in this game) “mysterious OP little girl #3 appears” me: oh I know where this is going *immediately jumps off Airship flipping the double bird* me: see you in hell! *splats* 4th story: unfair and BS, plain and simple. Hope things improve for the player.

[@JacobL228]

0:28 Simba's clearly seen some shit. 10:01 This is an example of a story that happened regardless of communication. After his demon argument was refuted, he immediately switched his excuse to her being overpowered, and when that argument was refuted too, he stormed out in a huff. He obviously had something against the player and not the character. Good riddance. Try harder to think objectively next time, Doge. Not every problem can be solved with even more communication. 14:03 I see three possibilities for why the OP of the second story was treated that way. 1. The other female player was jealous of the attention she was getting, especially when the in-character romance started, and she convinced the DM to get rid of her without outright kicking her out. 2. The OP had a crush on her and didn't like that she was getting close to another player. 3. It's possible she might have dressed showy and acted a little too friendly with everyone. If that's the case, the sex and pregnancy thing was most likely their way of slut shaming her, and when she didn't get the hint, they decided to be more openly hostile towards her. Combine that with the fact that a lot of female players tend to play male characters as brainless, sex-crazed, "milady" type gym bros (see Bart from the Stinky Dragon Podcast for a prime example), and it's too much for a more modest and conservative group to take. 15:10 If you're playing as a character that's the same age or even a couple years older or younger, I see no problem with having a relationship with a 7-year-old girl. Context is important. 21:36 There was no mention of any romantic relationships with little girls. It was a bit weird that multiple DMNPCs looked childish, but clearly, the OP was just making the DM out to be a total creep because she didn't like his DMing style. 25:07 For the last story, you just have to remind everyone that persuasion isn't mind control. Also, you contest persuasion with insight, not more persuasion since the ones being persuaded aren't trying to persuade anyone, but they are trying to tell if they can trust the one doing the persuading.