Do I need a SUBWOOFER? Bookshelf Speaker Build!

[@Toid]

Awesome Job! I loved the video. Just a clarification, the original Dinas are powered and were a collaboration between Joe N Tell and I. A huge shout out to him. These are the new passive versions that you can hook up to any amplifier. Thanks Again for the awesome video! You killed it!

[@DIYAudioGuy]

I remember that now!

[@MiracleManMatt]

How do these compare to the original powered DINAS (Which I am nearing completion of building, and very much looking forward to trying). Is the box dims the same with the side mounted PR? How is the frequency response altered in comparison? Thanks Matt

[@DIYAudioGuy]

@@MiracleManMatt Should be very similar.

[@kft590]

How much is the cost of the crossover for 2 speakers?

[@bassamjjamal]

one of the subwoofer utility is to take on its own job to produce the very low Frequencies (the low bass frequency20-80hz) (not the ordinary bass frequencies or the (woofer frequencies 80-300hz)instead making the woofer produces them because that can damages the woofer by time), so the subwoofer protects actually the woofer by preventing it producing these extra low frequencies, so we need a Low-Pass-Filter connected to the subwoofer.

[@xxxYYZxxx]

I love this small PR design. I'd like to see as small sub design with 2 opposing subs and 4 passive radiators, perhaps 5.25 or 6.5" & stackable with legs. With no flat surfaces, it would be tough to mount an amp or just passive inputs, but it would look cool.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Head over to toidsdiyaudio.com to get the plans and a flat pack. Small correction: I misspoke in the video. I used Minwax Polycrylic, not Polyshades. amzn.to/37yH2O1

[@eurowan]

Where do I find the flat pack?

[@davidkoslek9372]

Another great video Justin

[@DIYAudioGuy]

You are to kind!

[@davidkoslek9372]

@@DIYAudioGuy no sir you are. Plz keep doing what you do!!!

[@A6Legit]

5:37 respect lol. The blue finish came out nice

[@allwayzactive4599]

Did it 🤣

[@danrussell9357]

I built a pair of these speakers, and you don’t need a subwoofer. However, you do need a 75W per channel amp to drive the bass.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Good to know.

[@el_tate]

where did you get the amp?

[@danrussell9357]

@@el_tate I just got the [Upgraded Version]Fosi Audio TB10D and tried it out on the DINAS. Everything sounded great! I would definitely recommend this amp for these speakers.

[@MullinPerformance]

Excellent video Justin.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Thanks!

[@jeffneedstogivejakeaturnon1083]

Nailed it man. Nice job!!

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Thanks!

[@FSXgta]

Where your speakers are placed for best sound is not always where you should place subs for best bass. So you always need subwoofer unless you get lucky with your room.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

The room matters.

[@paulgood2218]

Those look fantastic

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Thank you sir!

[@Dahita]

Amazing. Thanks a lot for the video!

[@scottiffanimccord1509]

I really like the DIY stuff like this thank You! P.S plz do a DIY video on a distortion detector, No-SMD, that is not DIY thx.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Makes sense to do DIY stuff on a DIY channel.

[@BStreet666]

Great video! Was thinking of placing a car audio component set in enclosures but not sure where to start with box size / design. This seem, albeit more expensive, like a better way to go. I'm a big fan of Danish Oil for wood finish but the blue looks wild!

[@DIYAudioGuy]

I need to give Danish Oil a try.

[@blakebrockhaus347]

I was real confused watching this video until I remembered that there's a passive version of the dinas. Was wondering what happened to the square hole for the amp. Would love to make something like the dinas for myself one day soon

[@DIYAudioGuy]

I would call this the passive passive.

[@Elliott-Designs]

@@DIYAudioGuy 🤣

[@cartruck1070]

If you brushed the blue on then wiped it off leaving behind what ever stuck in the wood, do you think that would've got the look you were going for?

[@DIYAudioGuy]

That seems to be the best way to apply gel stain.

[@litoboy5]

Cool

[@noahderrington5156]

The speaker design looks great but that cabinet finish looks terrible! 😬

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Making speakers look good is always the hardest part.

[@nigelgovender4269]

Amazing video. Love from south africa. Please can you do cheap builds for aliexpress. 2way o 3way. With drives ghxamp, aiyima sounderlink etc. Not all of us are able to buy from parts express.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Probably not. Just not a big fan of aliexpress, sorry.

[@stevengarner8524]

I never use screws in my cabinets , they act as mini tuning forks at resonant cab frequency . I also use machine bolts for speaker mounting not screws . Great video 👍

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Sometimes the screws work their way back out.

[@Stan_the_Belgian]

The blue is brazen and wild but tbh I would prefer danish oil. What is the total cost of this project? Tangband subs and cnc cut wood does not seem cheap

[@DIYAudioGuy]

It was definitely a bold color choice. Honestly I'm not sure what the total cost is, I never actually planned out any kind of budget for this. Partly because I had some of the drivers laying around and partly because Nick sent me a lot of the other stuff that I needed.

[@A6Legit]

Ive wanted to do this but it was always tricky finding something to power them thats not super expensive.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Right! I don't understand why a simple stereo amplifier for home audio has to be so expensive.

[@A6Legit]

@@DIYAudioGuy It doesnt make any sense. I bought the Logitech 2.1 and 5.1 systems instead of DIY because receivers alone cost as much as a whole setup.

[@BAMmods]

Great !

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Thanks!

[@bruce2351]

I have been looking everywhere for the flat pack for the DINAS speaker. Is it still availkable???

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Reach out to Toids DIY.

[@Bobcatspiritdude]

Some folks like to use these or the 6 " Daytons in car applications for their sub enclosure becuase they play so low , then people can't believe all All that base is coming from those tiny speakers lol

[@DIYAudioGuy]

It is a neat party trick.

[@st170ish]

Dina's wearing blue jeans 😉

[@DIYAudioGuy]

🤣

[@DodgyBrothersEngineering]

So how do they measure? Looks are one thing, measurements are another.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

I think Joe N Tell/Toids DIY may have measured them.

[@cartruck1070]

Also do you think these would work great for a 2.1 setup on a gaming computer or maybe something slightly different insted? I've been looking at similar kits from parts express for my son to make and hopefully learn something along the way.

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Probably, but they are a bit large for a desktop system.

[@danrussell9357]

Because these are three-way speakers, you can build them with bi-amp terminal cups so that you can drive the bass woofers on their own. However, the crossover is so well designed that they sound great in just a two-channel set up.

[@razerfangegaming8548]

Sir, respectfully, you're asking the wrong question 1 - everyone needs subwoofer bro, because amplified lower registers add 'warmth' and 'depth' to the audio experience 2 - the 'woofers' you have installed into said boxes are in fact subwoofers. I know this just by looking at them. Those puppies can easily hit 35-40Hz with no distortion under the right conditions. I believe the appropriate question here is: How much subwoofer do you need? Answer: All the Subwoofer, because reasons Miss me with the poppycock

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Yep, how many do you need is the right question!

[@SOBaseball]

Would u please post the link to the flat pack? ..can’t find it

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Email Nick. [e-mail]

[@scottlowell493]

A sub is never required for those that don't want true 1st octave bass. *I* require a sub for any system that isn't strong to 20hz.

[@juhapeltola8232]

Do they have crossover plans in the DINAS plans?

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Yes.

[@itech1129]

do they not sell the flat packs anymore? I cant find it!!

[@DIYAudioGuy]

You might have to reach out to Nick directly. You should be able to email him from his website/forums.

[@fernandoferreira2689]

how did you connect the speakers? parallel ou in serie?

[@DIYAudioGuy]

They're all wired to the crossover internally. Technically it's all parallel, but it's parallel through the crossovers.

[@treyballinger8792]

LoL... The video asks "do I need a subwoofer?" then shows a "five and a quarter inch compact subwoofer"

[@DIYAudioGuy]

That's because you need a subwoofer!

[@sermac3246]

👍

[@DIYAudioGuy]

👍👍

[@shamancredible8632]

Well i guess you don't need a subwoofer if your whole speaker system is composed of subwoofers. I've seen smaller drivers in actual subs than those ones

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Yep!

[@bobadingo]

I run a pair of Yamaha 6 1/2 two ways equalized with55hz boost on a 50 watt per channel amp in my home and people that hear it swear I've got a 12-inch subwoofer hidden somewhere but nope just two six and a half two ways properly tuned.. .

[@vdfritzz]

literally zero stores or websites sell small woofers in my country, they are all 10"+ 😔

[@DIYAudioGuy]

Bummer.

[@thomasschafer7268]

german word: nichts halbes und nichts ganzes. 😂😂😂