Do these Tanks mean Victory for Russia?

Based on the video, it likely that these are T-62M tanks. It is impossible to determine if these tanks are headed toward the front lines, to a training sight, to be modernized or just moved to sell to another nation or to make space for something else.
These vehicles are between 53 and 63 years old, and would not be good as front-line vehicles, but could be used to support infantry as they advance.
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Based on the video, it likely that these are T-62M tanks. It is impossible to determine if these tanks are headed toward the front lines, to a training sight, to be modernized or just moved to sell to another nation or to make space for something else. These vehicles are between 53 and 63 years old, and would not be good as front-line vehicles, but could be used to support infantry as they advance. For uncensored video, check out my substack at: ryanmcbeth.substack.com Like my shirts? Get your own at: www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/ryan-mcbeth Want a personalized greeting: www.cameo.com/ryanmcbeth Watch all of my long form videos: kzbin.info/aero/PLt670_P7pOGmLWZG78JlM-rG2ZrpPziOy Twitter: @ryanmcbeth Instagram: @therealryanmcbeth BlueSky @ryanmcbeth Reddit: /r/ryanmcbeth Join the conversation: discord.gg/pKuGDHZHrz Want to send me something? Ryan McBeth Productions LLC 8705 Colesville Rd. Suite 249 Silver Spring, MD 20910 USA

[@bryanl6081]

Sir. you are an educated person, read properly, "Fight the N A Zis"

[@iznogudsurfer5911]

They dont need 115mm Ammo, thats a new load of turtle tanks

[@4layers404]

@@bryanl6081when one fascist claims to be fighting fascists to get his people to die for him.

[@bryanl6081]

@@iznogudsurfer5911 Considering NAZis are using trucks, the ally forces will be ok

[@slavstronk5582]

Those are T-62MV. T-62M -model with additional armor. T-62MV - model with "Kontact-1" ERA.

[@ughettapbacon]

'That is something a person can say..." that is a very polite way of calling bullshit. I love it.

[@DeathWishMonkey]

I had a professor who upon hearing something stupid would say, "Well, let's unpack that."

[@iamnolegend2519]

similar to "bless your heart"

[@resurgam_b7]

Haha, I think in this case he meant that the comment probably wasn't AI generated since it sounds like something a reas person might say, but I like your interpretation too 😂

[@Amarilliya]

Same, it's better than my go to "Those were certainly words in a sentence" :P

[@loganl7547]

​@@resurgam_b7its not an uncommon turn of phrase in the US. "One COULD say that" is a way of saying "possible does not mean plausible".

[@BrotherAlpha]

Let me get this straight... Someone posted a video of 60-year old tanks thinking they were going to Ukraine and they thought this was a propaganda victory for Russia? What the hell is wrong with them.

[@Foreign0817]

They're probably desperate/in denial.

[@Jinhadascam]

@@Foreign0817or just dont know shit in military tech lmao

[@davefloyd9443]

They're citizens of a country where the proles are expected to behave like pre industrial revolution serfs.

[@BrotherAlpha]

@@just9911 Every time I see MTG I think of Magic the Gathering and I get confused for a second.

[@praeceptor]

@@just9911 Maybe from now on she should be called LMC MTG.

[@cadennorris960]

“Don’t laugh, the US used these into the 70s”. Last time I checked it’s now 2024…

[@michaeldrechfachs1547]

Way too subtle a joke, loved it! ☺

[@thiefsleef6752]

Yeah it’s 2024, first time where a war involves the use of small kamikaze drones that are easily eating tanks, infantry, logistics etc. And the last time I checked the US has never fought such a war. I find it hilarious how critics are always criticizing the performance of Russias military despite their military never having to experience such conditions 😂

[@bigearl3867]

Last M-60 was retired from U.S. service in 1997. There are 230 M-60's in storage along with 54 M1074 bridging variants.

[@HydraHolden]

@@bigearl3867 and there are 3600 M1 Abrams variants in storage on top of that

[@KaloyanKasabov]

@@thiefsleef6752 yeah, cuz the last time the US alongside NATO were in a big war, they didn't give their opponent 2 years to adapt. It took them a few months. Talking about Iraq

[@reinoldi1097]

"russian DEFENDER" 🤣🤣🤣

[@proudtitanicdenier4300]

Bravely defending against all dignity and common sense

[@rajabouzeid8801]

Defending Russia on foreign soil, nothing unusual about that, Russia and it's predecessors have been doing it for the past 400 years😂

[@Mihailo_Slavutsky]

Yeah, they can make funny jokes sometimes))

[@justjoking5841]

Is the USA any different? Fundamentally speaking how is the USA any different when we in the west are only going after countries in the east because it's convenient for big business? Russia needs to learn that the Cold War is over. The wars need to stop.

[@samholdsworth420]

Are they calling them Nahtzees to try and justify The invasion? Lol

[@lolololalala8225]

Do they really call them russian defenders? lol these people.

[@m.a.118]

Why not? People in the US say the US "defends their values and people" when the US last had a defensive war in what? 1812? WWII if you stretch the definition? Whataboutism aside, my point being propaganda optics are commonplace in war and militarist rationalization. Using defensive optics makes a war more palatible on the homefront.

[@paddington1670]

@@m.a.118 USA isnt innocent but russia is out of control. Now some refresher about Russia. Countries invaded by Russia in the past 100 years: • Estonia • Latvia • Lithuania • Azerbaijan • Georgia • Moldova • Chechnya • Afghanistan • Romania • Poland • Finland • Ukraine • China • Japan • (not even counting here anything that happened during WW2) • Cambodia • Laos • Korea • Hungary • Czechoslovakia • Egypt-Israel war • Eritrea • Somalia Last 30 years: • Georgia • Moldova • Ossetia • Tajikistan • Chechnya • Chechnya (again) • Georgia (again) • Ukraine • Syria • Central African Republic • Ukraine (again) ...all of them were to protect the motherland, of course ...poor Russia gets constantly threatened by very small countries around it... such a hard life

[@meaninglesscog]

You should see what the Japanese say in their museums to WW2.

[@forresttm]

​@m.a.118 the us navy was literally made to defend us interests abroad.. Wonder why they get involved in everything they want... because everything can effect them.

[@fangride3577]

@@m.a.1181941 pearl harbor

[@DahVoozel]

My guess is that these tanks will be fitted with a North Korean auto loader named Cho.

[@HandyMan657]

LOL!

[@ryanhenderson1076]

Why not? They once made a rocket called Nodong.

[@Ganiscol]

But every autoloader in every tank has a different name.

[@randym7961]

@@Ganiscol Actually most would be called Kim ! go figure

[@DivineDawn]

Cho momma!

[@Buzzy_Bland]

If the modern force hasn’t been able to break the deadlock for a year, then *surely* last generation’s leftovers will do the trick! Bots think just because they have the memory of goldfish, we do too.

[@Reddsoldier]

Last generation would be the T-80BVs, these are tanks their GRANDFATHERS would've trained and used.

[@xerxeskingofking]

its about keeping up the narrative though repetition, and specifically, the "Russian Steamroller", the idea that russian equipment reserves are SO VAST, they can outlast the west, their victory is inevitable, and continued support will just prolong the suffering and death without changing the end result. you know thats not true, and I know thats not true, but most of the public doesnt know thats not true, and some might be swayed by that logic.

[@GasparGa]

As he said in the video, an old tank is still better than no tank. If Putin can use these to chip away at Ukraine's defenses, its worth it for him. And as we know, he doesn't care about the number of lives lost

[@esooGrM]

Last generation? Nah, these T-62s are Gen 4s, better then SEPv4 yes? T-62 here will easily penetrate weak Abrams and Leopard armor, and they couldn’t even scratch it in return!

[@MrNicoJac]

Although I genuinely do appreciate your sentiment, it's _also_ true that a shitty tank beats no tank. If Ukraine were to run out first (aka if we the West would let that happen), then grandpa tanks _could_ "win." (although artillery, drones, and Javelins would have something to say about that, lol)

[@xiphoid2011]

"Hey Yuri, I got you the tank your grandather drove, isn't it great?" "Yes sir! Thank you sir! Happy to be cannonfodder sir!"

[@57thorns]

Actually the exact same tank, Yuris grandpas name is still scribbled in the engine compartment.

[@weeeeehhhhh]

​@@57thornsIf poor Yuri is an 18 year old conscript, it's likely a tank his GREAT grandfather drove

[@sixgunsymphony7408]

@@xiphoid2011The M1 tanks donated to Ukraine are from the early 1980s, which makes 40 to 44 years old.

[@DOMINIK99013]

@@weeeeehhhhh Nobody conscripting 18 years old...

[@danboyd2725]

Yeah, nothing says victory like a tank that can apply for Social Security.

[@RusselBrout]

Not sure how much government spending is going toward social security in Russia…

[@danboyd2725]

@@RusselBrout I think they already drafted anyone who applied.

[@bruceingalls7964]

​@@RusselBrout Actually, Putin knows that touching the sacred third rail of pensions is a civil war trigger. Pensions are a big problem in 🇷🇺 consuming 22-28% of corp taxes (but only 2 billion USD!?). 🦝

[@shanavalkyria3438]

@@bruceingalls7964 losing a lot of young people won't help with that at all then

[@bobb8821]

😂😂😂😂

[@xandervk2371]

Syria lost to Israel in 1973 having a big force of these tanks (mix of T-62 and T-54/55) against vastly outnumbered Centurions.

[@user-tt6il2up4o]

Remember the centurion was the first and best MBT ever.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

​@@user-tt6il2up4obest for its time maybe. But against modern models... I wouldn't bet on it.

[@obelic71]

@@user-tt6il2up4o The IDF Centurions had a simular upgrade of the main gun like the Sherman had in the Firefly upgrade. both obsolete (armour) to modern designs as a gunplatform they punched way above their weight. the IDF had a 3 km tank kill with such a Centurion!

[@llynellyn]

That's true, but then Iranian T-62s beat Iraqi Centurions in the 1980s, so I think in this comparison it's more about the tactics used and the crews proficiency than the tanks themselves, so Russia are screwed xD

[@obelic71]

@@llynellyn A T62 is an cold war design the Centurion a WW2 design. Armour wise a Centurion is obsolete to the cold war Soviet T55/62 tanks. The T62 is already he 2nd gen cold war tank. Nato was way behind in tank design so the Centurion and Patton tanks were updated to counter the Soviet threath at first before new MBT designs could finaly go into production (Chieftain/Challenger, Leopard, AMX30 and Abrahams) The 105 mm Gun upgrade program of NATO tanks was the Result of an examined T55 who drove by accident into the British embassy during the Hungarian civil uprising.

[@yuriys5642]

No cigar, no alcohol. What has the internet done to Ryan

[@peterlyons8793]

Ryan is working now but later he'll enjoy himself.

[@Tr_Fast]

The government got him

[@DeltaEchoGolf]

Dressing like it was his first court appearance!

[@kennethhigh8228]

Move old tanks around by rail to give the appearance of a plan...

[@eriks.9730]

Exactly. This is the country that created the Potëmkin Village after all.

[@sixgunsymphony7408]

The old tanks were put into storage so they could be used. They planned for attrition warfare.

[@davidgray8089]

@@sixgunsymphony7408 I guess Russia feels safer by eliminating all their stockpiles then?

[@ElkaPME]

@@sixgunsymphony7408 but then, it's not just as easy and effortless as you think. Those tanks still require maintenance and refurbishing, something that you don't really wanna do on your logistics when you have the newest equipment as well. And if you're not gonna really use them in the long run, you'll just have to decommission them and that also takes time, money, and resources that would've otherwise been well spent on new equipment. There's a reason why the us (and by extension, the west) were fine sending their old hand me downs away to ukraine. Best use them somewhere now than be wasting away in the storage, only to get decommissioned later.

[@derekschoots]

​@@ElkaPMERussis barely maintained its active units, let alone mothball tanks.

[@agentmongoose]

As I recall the "turtle tanks" were 62's under the "barn" so they may be getting retro fitted for that role.

[@aSnailCyclopsNamedSteve]

And the reason the turret is immobile is because they have little or no ammunition.

[@marcelOberauer]

True, all of those t62s will be converted to barn tanks in the near future.

[@danielmartin7838]

I don’t think the rolling sheds are an official update, rather ad-hoc implementation carried out by men in the field. Who knows, maybe that’ll change?

[@jpenna1976]

@@danielmartin7838 I have seen that much of them on videos, that there must be some higher up calling for those. It is no longer idea of some local goofy tank mechanic.

[@agentmongoose]

@@danielmartin7838 They are a field 'upgrade' but they were spotted on different fronts ( i think ) so maybe its become an official, unofficial modification

[@dmitrikulkevicius9161]

ruzzia claimed t90 proriv was the best tank in the world and it burns just like any other Soviet junk. It's not about tank numbers but trained tank crews, even that did nothing.

[@DocLunarwind]

My bet is that they are using these for some “rough” training of new crews, since there proberly aren’t enough real/the right type of training vehicals.

[@Jay-kf3od]

Correct. Especially when most tank v tank engagements are decided by who shot first.

[@Dimich1993]

@@DocLunarwind They are throw away tanks with throw away crews. But for a Ukrainian AT crew a tank is a tank is a tank, I guess.

[@BL-yj2wp]

@@Dimich1993 Since they all usually go down in one hit I guess it really dosen't matter too much.

[@Zedilt]

@@Dimich1993 But this is different, a M72 LAW will kill a T-62.

[@U.S.MachineMike]

I’m confused, why would Russia sending old tanks from the 60s be a sign Russia is going to win?

[@Foreign0817]

Maybe he thought they were modern? 💀

[@HM2SGT]

cuz, reasons. _(aka sensationalistic hyperbole)_

[@randym7961]

Because he was told to say that

[@HM2SGT]

@@randym7961 *_SMILE_* when you say that, товарищ!

[@pd4165]

Because they're willing to deploy a wall of meat until all the ammunition is gone. If Ukraine runs out of ATGM, or weapon systems that can defeat 60 year old tanks, then wall of meat + 60 year old tanks win.

[@angryjc695]

Here comes the Russian bots And the likes

[@noir1923]

here they never come.. lol as usual you guys are fighting imaginary people 😂

[@m.a.118]

Usually bots all of all stripes. Krembots, Wumaos, NAFO troops, Ukibots, Pentabots... The internet's gone nuts with psyops.

[@justjoking5841]

Mostly because people don't take war seriously. It's literally a sport until they are the ones on the frontlines.

[@ptonpc]

@@noir1923 Aww comrade, are you lonely?

[@rmgeneral8554]

But we see a lot of American there.

[@1977Yakko]

Every time there's military equipment moving by rail, some armchair general starts going off about WWIII or some offensive somewhere. Every. Time.

[@Ridcally]

As we observed in the captured cope cage tank report, they may not even carry any ammunition - merely protecting the delivery of meat sticks into the battle.

[@randym7961]

ouch! It would be more polite to call them future Carbon deposits

[@jpenna1976]

@@randym7961 True. Calling them sunflower fertilizer is a bit harsh.

[@weronikazalewska2098]

A lot of those have been built so the turet cant move i.e they can't aim to fire at anything

[@jpenna1976]

@@weronikazalewska2098 Yes, just moving metal box to transport troops. It seems metal is often so thin, that drone can make hole in it. This will most likely injure troops inside, because that metal plate will cause secondary fragmentation on the other side.

[@lacrewpandora4164]

My guess - these will be converted to 'turtle tanks', and sent into action with absolutely no ammo whatsoever (avoid turret toss). An infantry squad sits on top, and this antiquated tank becomes a battle taxi with one solitary purpose: Get the meat across the field to the next treeline. Its incredibly wasteful, but Russia has incrementally had success doing this. Seemingly they don't care about their soldier's lives, and those old inventory tanks get one last bit of use. And as an ex 19K, I have to admit: That old Soviet relic making a thunder run full of meat is probably more effective than most tanks have been in this war.

[@57thorns]

There is no seemingly about the Russian lack of care about death rates.

[@xisotopex]

seems like if they are doing that, to just remove the turret entirely, and build up from the deck of the tank, a similar housing as the turtle tanks, sort of like an up armored IFV

[@Randomusername56782]

Heres my question though, why arent they using BMPs and BTRs to carry that role out?

[@talscorner3696]

​@@Randomusername56782 my civilian guess would be that BTR-likes vehicles, though maybe faster and more maneuverable, aren't enough to make the difference between catching a drone in the face and not. And, when they do catch said drone in said face, they're not as armoured to eat it and either keep going or retain enough meat for "keep going" to be still viable

[@johnso2399]

Ryan was talking about all the out dated techs about these tanks, but all these play no roles when they are mainly be used a mobile canon against strongholds, in fact Ukrainian are all doing the same thing. A majority of the Ukrainian armour are still soviet, but media focus on a handful Western supplied tanks for obvious reasons. Turtle tanks are used as a bait for FPV drones and fires, infantry are still ridng on BMPs. Meanwhile , UKR are also caging up their Western Tanks now.

[@HoneyLover64NthngHppnd89]

Imagine the United States conducting a 3 day "special military operation" that lasted 3 years and they're now deploying M60 Patton to the front line. 😂

[@pd4165]

Afghanistan? Vietnam? Douglas Al Skyraider? B52? F15 and A10 are early 70's, F16 is late 70s.

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

@@pd4165 But those planes work and work well. Skyraider was brilliant in ground attack. B-52 carries 70,000 pounds of bombs or 20 cruise missiles. F-15 is still an effective fighter and missile truck. A10 is still good at ground attack and troop support. F-16 is still a first-class fighter and missile truck. Afghanistan failed because America didn't win the peace. Vietnam failed due to public pressure to end the war.

[@quentil]

@@pd4165 The difference is that Americans maintained and continuously upgraded their equipment. russia didn't.

[@NemoBlank]

They threw the newest Pattons into the sea to make a reef.

[@kerrygibbs8198]

The guy filmed six out of the tanks, and concluded Now rush will win the war in Ukraine. WTF?

[@Tr_Fast]

Im more confused about the nazi’s

[@xorising]

@@Tr_Fast Putin's reasoning for the "special military operation" into Ukraine was to defeat fascists. Obviously the person will posted the video was a fan!

[@jonathonfreeman9233]

the only problem with the "training tank" theory is that implies "training" ;)

[@DeltaEchoGolf]

Also the "available for sale". Who's buying?

[@bardylon]

I think I saw recently that these were being used as the base for the “Turtle tanks”. From what they found with a captured one, the gun is fixed forward and non firing and the turtle tanks are basically a ghetto personnel carrier, hoping to transport troops riding on its back inside the makeshift “shell” to protect from drone attacks.

[@skepticonyoutube1897]

Ukraine have the Same Problem 120 for Leo/Abrams 105 for Leo 1 125 for UDSSR Tanks 120 Rifle for Challanger 2

[@Trashmarksman]

no ukraine's problem is much much worse their entire military is a patchwork mess made out of what they could beg borrow and steal,Russia at least has to only deal with russian equipment

[@Konrok]

It's just that the United States is a very poor country, they can't supply as many as 300 tanks like Poland or Germany. Only 31)

[@skepticonyoutube1897]

@@Konrok What have this to do with my comment? Absolut nothing

[@lok687]

@@Konrok They can. They have over a 1000 of reserves A1s. But its logisticly not a logic move to be doing. Getting them there is one thing. Getting the supply chain for the parts is almost impossible or practical.

[@akizeta]

@@lok687 Not possible or practical? The US ships millions of tonnes of stuff all over the globe constantly. It would be no trouble at all to stuff the parts into containers, ship them across the Atlantic, and truck them from Rotterdam, say, down to Ukraine. Unless you're saying they don't have the spare parts to send.

[@stalbaum]

Sometimes you can repurpose old gear effectively, such as the almost 100 year old B52. I don't think this is one of those times.

[@57thorns]

There are Vicker's machine guns (Maxim guns according to the headlines) used by Ukraine, so old is not necessarily bad. Except, there is a little difference between a water cooled insanely reliable machine gun hosing down infantry like it's 1916 and a seriously out of date battle tank going up against modern anti tank weapons.

[@HM2SGT]

😳🤣 *69 now known as **_almost 100!_* (hey, what's three decades & change, amiright?)

[@aocg1914]

Good 70 years.. But it was made by people as skilled as the one that build the apolo program.. Its like the A-10 , borderline perfect design..

[@aocg1914]

Good 70 years.. But it was made by people as skilled as the one that build the apolo program.. Its like the A-10 , borderline perfect design..

[@derekschoots]

​@@aocg1914The A-10 sucked. It killed fewer tanks than the aardvark, and killed way more friendlies in the process.

[@JDSpartan2007]

Damn look at Ryan cleaning up nicely!

[@stalbaum]

Just a little effort there and they will even let you into Applebee's, Ryan.

[@JDSpartan2007]

@@stalbaum That bar for Applebee's seems a bit too high

[@DocLunarwind]

Point: trains are the best way to transport everything, not just military hardware.

[@misc376]

@DocLunarwind Russia doesn't have the capacity for modern logistics. Their entire military rely on railways. Dan Carlin did a good over view. They've been relying on railways for over 100 years in a way no other modern military does. Ukraine is on their border with several land crossings and they struggle with supply. How would they project power across the world?

[@edgehoward4290]

I agree, the US needs to rebuild its railroads

[@MrSesebo]

as long as you have rails and freight depots in the target area

[@tallshort1849]

​@@misc376 they use groups like Wagner

[@DocLunarwind]

@@edgehoward4290 indeed you do.

[@prescientdove]

These are "converted" into barn style tanks, which have 0 vision and the gun is sometimes welded in place, thus unusable.

[@capnstewy55]

A tank is a tank. Just like pizza, even when it's bad it's still better than no pizza...usually.

[@pd4165]

If all you have is small arms then it might as well be a WW1 mkV - you need whatever it takes to stop that variety of tank.

[@Tr_Fast]

It’s like Gordon Ramsey serving you little Ceaser’s, like holy moly I thought you were the best chef in the world and you are making this

[@DeltaEchoGolf]

Not bad is a good pizza!

[@mikhailkutuzov8051]

The way I see it is we're slowly getting to a point where man-portable AT weapons that against something like the T-72's+ would be seen as "won't work, just use it if you see a BTR/BMP" can actually damage or even ""kill"" these MBTs because of their antiquity.

[@quentil]

@@pd4165 For a t-62, that's just about anything.

[@edmondthompson1523]

Glad to see you back to basics. This is the Ryan I signed-up to see.

[@MichaelJenkins910]

Living as I do not far from Ft Liberty and Camp Lejeune--and a short drive from Sunny Point Military Terminal--we see military equipment on trains, trucks, and boats with great regularity and folks still freak out about it. Chiefly on NextDoor, which should say it all . . .

[@boonedockjourneyman7979]

Most of these things don’t need resupply. If they fire downrange, they will be struck within hours. They’re just “metal meat” (R 2024).

[@ryanbauer3680]

In regards to the infrared night vision, its not late 50s tech. As you described it, I know we were using this exact method of night vision during WW2 in the Pacific theater, specifically with the M3 Carbine. Granted, it needed a battery carried in backpack and with all the combined gear to make it work brought its weight up to 34 pounds and only had an effective range of 75-125 yards but the technology was still there and being used in the field.

[@andreisopon4615]

So it's about a week's work for Ukraine's anti-tank units? 🤷

[@bryanl6081]

how well has that anti-tank unit has been working?

[@casper6014]

@@bryanl6081Those units have made Russia bring out 60 year old tanks, so i guess they are working well.

[@CrowColdblade]

​@@bryanl6081The Russians are sending in T-62, clearly it works so well that they are destroying modern systems faster than the orcs can replace them, and supposedly the depots with old tanks are running low.

[@petejunebug]

@@bryanl6081you are being sarcastic right??

[@bryanl6081]

@@petejunebug As sarcastic as 23% of Ukraine gone.

[@SlinkyTWF]

NG units continued to use the M60s and M48A5s into the 1980s. Our ACAV unit had M60(A-Nothing)s until about 1982, when M1 production and deployment started to cause newer models (A1s, then A3s) to filter down the pipeline.

[@benbrummitt7953]

You can laugh.. and against a javelin that thing is screwed... but a T62 is still going to give you a very bad day if you're an infantryman without any anti armour weapons

[@02suraditpengsaeng41]

You realise RPG-7 is Very common

[@grimwaltzman]

On the other hand, if you are an infantryman, having a T-62 against you is better than having a T-72 or T-80 against you.

[@frankhinkle5772]

Thanks for the commentary. Good luck with the Briefing.

[@parrotletsrunearth1173]

These tanks are straight out of the history channel.

[@bigearl3867]

Ancient astronaut theorist agree.

[@danielmartin7838]

Better than nothing and still equipped with a big gun

[@pd4165]

@@danielmartin7838 big gun in a bulletproof shell needs special equipment to stop it. I would shit my pants if a T62 came my way - body armor does not stop 155mm.

[@PocketBrain]

Crew of four, so... more meat shield.

[@diamond_tango]

Maybe no turret toss?

[@Fazbear-qy8mo]

@@diamond_tango they still turret toss but not as much

[@VrodegTheGoblin717]

indeed, same as the abrams

[@madkoala2130]

​@@VrodegTheGoblin717with less space and ammo under your legs. That sounds fun😊

[@VrodegTheGoblin717]

​@madkoala2130 bot spotted... t62(M)'s ammo compartment isn't under the legs of any crew member, and yea, obviously, it's less spacious than an Abrams, it's a tank from the 60's. But hey, I guess you'd much rather have the shells at the back of your head, those blow out panels make you feel safer...

[@davetweens7687]

I'm surprised to see them on a train as normally 60+ years old travel by bus, they get given a free travel pass. 😊

[@markdeckard7651]

0:20 "That is definitely a thing a person can say" haha love the subtlety. "Those are definitely some random words that somebody might think mean something"

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Very level-headed commentary. Thank you for your analysis and insight.

[@lilbubz2803]

“A tank is better than no tank” not necessarily. Fielding 60 year old tanks means adjusting your logistical chains to support them. It also means putting a tank crew at risk of death in an older more vulnerable tank, instead of saving them for a newer tank (which if destroyed has a higher crew survival rate). Sometimes it better to save your men and equipment rather than hastily putting them into an older vehicle.

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

We are talking about Russia here. Like they care about the loss of a soldier's life.

[@markalbert9011]

If they are headed for the front they'll probably become "Turtle Tanks" which means they will essentially be lightly armored or unarmored personal carriers. Which begs the question "Is Russia running out of BMP's too?"

[@02suraditpengsaeng41]

Whole Russia stock pile situation is chaotic They also converted T-72 into APC

[@guydreamr]

Russian "defenders" 🤣🤣

[@johngulyas695]

“Take a hike, Commie!”

[@johnkueneman9860]

Great info. Thanks man

[@bardylon]

Ah Russia, where you “defend” from inside another country’s borders.

[@itsme-ml7cf]

I hope the russians won't replace the luna system and order their soldiers to keep the spotlight on day and night...

[@shahynrox1166]

those tanks will be used as support units for this devastating eScooter armada which will roll up the ukranian defense lines over the next months.

[@user-in6ud8bx7n]

Thank you for another informative video, Ryan!

[@asdfadfafsdfa]

Looking fresh brother. Thanks for info!

[@thomasbialzik3060]

Thanks Ryan ❤

[@MrSabram07]

Ooh the Wilhelm scream

[@rdyer8764]

Always appreciate you knowledge and experience.

[@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek]

Excellent Analysis!!!!

[@DahVoozel]

As any seasoned War Thunder player will tell you, more crew is more better.

[@philipstanley5611]

Less armor is also more better

[@dunedayl]

If only Ukraine was provided ANY tanks in this year. A lot of 70 year old tanks is better than no tank.

[@cmanlovespancakes]

They just recently received more Leopards 1 and 2s from Europe.

[@Jay-kf3od]

That's not necessarily true. With current infantry wielded AT weapons you could argue that maybe driving around in a shit box makes you an easier target.

[@tolazyforaname6654]

they have lots of t64s and the don't burn through them at the rate russia does so they don't really need new tanks

[@dunedayl]

@cmanlovespancakes Spain promised some Leopard 2A4, an old version in bad condition, require at least 6 mons of repairs. Leopard 1 are in even worst condition and they are older than t-62. Russian army receive dozens restored tanks every month. Ukraine recice dozens in a year, and it's not like they are modern.

[@dgart7434]

Agreed. It has been a source of frustration and embarrassment that the US has only provided a handful of tanks when we have thousands sitting in warehouses. At least we sent them a modest amount of Bradleys.

[@TheBonzol]

lol, saw like 3 tanks. VICTORY IS ASSURED! I saw about 20 modern tanks in Germany heading that way.

[@joe_mckirdy]

Can never tell when these videos are made either. They can be 10 yrs old or the same train from 10 months ago recorded from a different angle. Russians like reposting old videos from multiple angles to make their army look bigger.

[@PalmettoNDN]

It's a logistical nightmare to have three different types of ammo when you have a *COMPETENT* officer corps. That certainly isn't Russia.

[@cmanlovespancakes]

The basis for the Turtle tanks are the T62s. Maybe that is why they are being pulled from storage and refurbished.

[@quentil]

Nah. They are being pulled from storage because russia has no other option.

[@vasilzahariev5741]

The T-62 and its variants have been seen in combat in Ukraine and the Russians have lost more than 100 of them over the course of the war so far, according to oryx. Chances are, these could be heading for rear areas of occupied Ukraine or even the frontline. It's highly doubtful that any country would be buying this tank model in 2024 and that Russia would be willing to sell it, when it can use it as a stop gap measure before they fix up more of the newer models that have been in storage.

[@kevinlemanquais2006]

Looking forward to hearing from you on the PDB. Happy 4th.

[@TBH-nu2so]

It’s honestly kind of stunning to see the paradoxical escalation of Russian cope as the war continues. Because when Western tanks first started arriving, or even at the beginning of the war when it was T-72s against Javelins and other Western ATGMs, the common line was “Oh there were barely any T-72s in the Gulf War, it’s a super duper tank that can defeat any inferior Western tank”, and yet not only do T-72s seem to be something of an endangered species in Ukraine, but Russia’s now pulling out T-55s and maybe even T-62s, tanks that (along with their Chinese derivatives) formed the mainstay of Huessein’s army in the Gulf War. Even if the Russians aren’t using them as MBTs, or at least not intending to, they’re still proven to be historically terrible against pretty much anything Western that Ukraine’s been receiving the past couple of years.

[@Sacto1654]

You wonder could they withstand a modern sabot round fired from an SPG-9 recoilless rifle (the Ukrainians have plenty of those!),.

[@hyznx9871]

No more t80s at storage 😅😅😅

[@DropB]

They still have at least 1000 T-80s at storage. But the refurbishing take time. And what the condition is?

[@Tr_Fast]

@@DropB if they have 1000 T-80's that they are refurbishing why are they wasting time refurbishing t-62's

[@user-rj4gu5oh3k]

@@Tr_FastI don’t care which side you support nor do i care how delusional you are. But trust me Russia is not gonna run out of tanks any time soon. That would be like if i said Ukraine is gonna run out of bullets soon.

[@187Rajah]

​@@Tr_Fastt62 has good gun, they used also as mobile artillery with drones hrlp

[@TenylegMinekez-uc7co]

@@Tr_Fast they are refurbishing them for a while as artillery. But let me honest, sooner or later they will be sent to the front. On the current warfare doesn't really matter the type of the tank on any sides.FPV drones, mines, artillery...these kill every tank and not the non-existing tank to tank duels.

[@toastermon2272]

"A large and modern army. Only the modern part isn't large and the large part isn't modern." Remember when everyone was scared about them unleashing their existing half battalion of T-14s? If your equipment is 2-3 times as old as the people who crew it and the trend is worsening, this isn't a show of health for your military industrial comples, military leadership or any metric by which you would assess the current and future readiness for an armed force.

[@user-lp9vl4bo3c]

Modernizing a T-62, works sure kind of like a Hotrod is fast but still not a sportscar.

[@viandengalacticspaceyards5135]

Well yes, a tank is better than no tank...but this is supposed to be the 2nd military in the world fighting against a country that was never really mentioned as military power before this war. I mean, if the US had to send M60's to war now, I'd be worried.

[@randym7961]

it isn't second that has belonged to China for a while now, Russia likely doesn't make the top 5 conventional any more lol

[@pd4165]

What has 'supposed to be' got to do with the situation in hand. If Russia is the 50th best fighting force in the world and Ukraine the 51st then who will win?

[@viandengalacticspaceyards5135]

@@pd4165 We civilians have to work with the info we can see, and deduct from it. -If an African rebel group had T64's, we might call it better than expected. If a world power uses 60's tanks, we can say worse than expected. -Who will win? - The one who runs out of something critical first, (as front movement is best calculated in miles per year.) As the West is supplying material, for Ukraine that seems to be manpower. For Russia, it could be certain types of equipment, but more likely money.

[@user-og1ux8nr3i]

Old equipment can still kill you.

[@TY-pf6vb]

So can a mouse bite

[@emilchan5379]

Pretty sure these things are going to be sent to Ukraine to be used as "turtle tanks". Ammunition isn't an issue because the turtle tanks are not meant to use their main guns. They are breakthrough vehicles meant to clear mines and disrupt/withstand drone attacks. Ukraine captured one recently and found that it was a T-62 under the hood. It was not carrying any ammo and its main turret was locked in place.

[@l0os176]

I'm sure the Russians could find a use for them near the front, if only for something like towing equipment or the occasional volley from a distance. Plus, some commander could check the box that says "We tried."

[@Tusseboy]

Sweden

[@silver-berry]

The important takeaways from this video are the facts about military procedure, of course. What was most vivid in my mind though was an image of a bathrobed Ryan huddled over a desk mic with a glass of whiskey, doing the voiceover for the closing ad.

[@Scrat335]

Reasonable assessment. Thanx.

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[@AllertonSlayden]

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[@Cindy_781]

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[@allgomesareevil6121]

Well, first of they need more tank crews the way they're losing tanks. 2nd, they've just telling wounded soldiers go back to the front in a tank that you don't need medical treatment, you will be fine

[@charlybravo1354]

Late 50s tech? Actually Soviet version of Nati-German 1944 tech.

[@MrKotBonifacy]

0:20 - _"That is definitely a thing a person can say"_ - I just love the subtle irony of it... : )

[@matthewk9563]

if they have comms they can do a fire mission with realtime drone spotting. often these are used more as mobile artillery to move forward, expend ammo indirectly on a target then pull back.

[@dalepeterson5609]

Sure do appreciate your insight on all this stuff. 👍

[@polishkurt5354]

0:57 that's not Luna-2, that's the additional armour from the T-62M

[@euteo]

Most likely the t62's are heading to be transformed in turtle tanks and later be used basically as apcs to deliver troops to the front line

[@davidewhite69]

Ryan last week I saw a similar video from Ruzzia on Reddit with T62s on a train but these had heavy duty cope cages, skirts and Kontakt armor hap hazardly fitted

[@davidlloyd2583]

The T62 and T55 can fire indirectly like artillery. It has all the targeting bits inside. Max range is 14km. They are being used as assault guns by the Russians.

[@02suraditpengsaeng41]

then make me return to the question If say they want artillery, why didn't they modify them properly like bigger turret (like T-34-122)

[@davidlloyd2583]

@@02suraditpengsaeng41 Because they have thousands ready to go, with unlimited ammo. Why change it?

[@02suraditpengsaeng41]

@@davidlloyd2583 Whole reason why T-64 with autoloader exist 1. T-62 or general soviet thing are cramp, hard to reload 2. 115mm ammo have reported they heavy Since T-62 change from Medium Tank into Artillery/AFV, dimension no need to stay small like 60s doctrine

[@roberttaylor3594]

3:07 The Russian advanced school is day three of the training regime...

[@newby783]

Clear and concise analysis 👌

[@brettbaxter4680]

Cool video, but it was your ad at the end that made me laugh!!!

[@russelcushman2152]

It looks like those may be some sort of BTR-80s, the exhaust on back looks to be straight and level with the upper line of the chassis.

[@williamlloyd3769]

T-62 scrap iron.

[@rahjah6958]

4:18 they have lots of it, everywhere, I know that dosnt solve the transport part lol

[@danajorgensen1358]

BTR's are early production BTR-80's. Well, the one fully shown is, anyway. There is a gap with the hatch panel between the roadwheels 2 and 3, which eliminates the BTR-60 family. The roofline appears to be flat all the way to the rear, along with the muffler being horizontal, which eliminates the BTR-70 family. The turret is a basic unit rather than the BPPU turret with the 30mm gun.

[@fernandoserrano9393]

The M 60 tanks were still being used in 1986 when I went to basic training in Fort Benning, now Fort Moore. I don’t know if it solely for training purposes.

[@hunterwilson6703]

Yeah by rail is a great idea until your adversary has a tank commander Nic named wardaddy and his misfit crew.

[@Belenor]

It would be interesting to see the inside of those barrels since theyve been stored outside for decades.

[@RaglansElectricBaboon]

Banker! You said banker! I thought you said you'd dressed up for a meet with your baker & it distracted me for the whole video!

[@traviswillis4491]

I love the Old Bay bottle opener

[@segalliongaming8925]

0:28 “I have a President’s Daily Brief with my baker in a few hours …” wait what?

[@lazylime8046]

The video is almost two years old at this point, and the tanks have been on the front for this entire time. They're T-62M's, though many were standard T-62's.