Do This For PERFECT Vocal Stacks, Harmonies, and Dubs (Background Vocal Editing and Mixing)

[@ScottThePisces]

I found a really good post on Reddit by someone who used to work with Max Martin and he laid out the entire stack process. Typically for big pop records it's always 4 stacks per part in the hooks. For Example - LD (C) with Stacks L,R,L,R.... Harmony 1 L,R,L,R.... Harmony 2 L,R,L,R... What's also interesting is their process is 1) Comp LD Vocal 2) Comp Doubles to LD 3) Comp Harmonies 4) Groove Lead (adjusting timing) 5) Align DBLS/HRMS to LD 6) Consolidate and export to Melodyne 7) Export back to Pro Tools

[@MakePopMusic]

Yeah their vocal stacks are NUTS. To be honest, I always HATED the export vocal, edit vocal in other software, export that and pop it in my DAW. THE ARA integration makes editing so much easier and faster. Now I have no reason to complain 😂

[@bnjmnwst]

The funny thing about this is that Melodyne doesn't require exporting. The version I have works as a plugin. It does have to be recorded in in real-time, then edited, but it's all inside Cubase. I do all of my time aligning in Melodyne, as well.

[@dereksimke9117]

Actually, I just saw a KZbin short by Joshua Casper, from plug-in boutique that showed how in Ableton live you can select a melodyne as the default sampler and simply import a vocal, and hit edit and it will load it- no more waiting! Blew my mind.

[@Misha.Joseph]

You should make a folklore tutorial. There’s like none out there and I really would love to understand like folk/alt better

[@SamNicolosiOfficial]

I’d love to see him cover that as well, just to see his personal approach. A lot of folk/alt music intentionally excludes the hyper-aligned, meticulously tuned, and extra processed sound. Take Bon Iver’s 22, A Million for instance. Simple SM7, Neve+LA2A vocal chain followed by a low cut in protools and occasionally another compressor. Loads of vocal stacks, all panoramic panning. No time aligning. No crazy resonance-subtractive EQs. It’s just a different beast and would love to see his go at it.

[@dustinshinn6830]

Favorite production KZbin channel.

[@mdp]

You already know what time it is. 🔥

[@MakePopMusic]

It’s Friday, Friday. Gotta drop vids on Friday 🫶🏻

[@dakthesnacc2002]

I am absolutely living for the crocheted shirt

[@gordeev6781]

Working on a song rn and KZbin recommended this video. I've been watching you for a few years now. You make a big difference! Kudos to your craft! This video for the sake of education is a goat. Thank you so much, man! 👍🏼

[@piproductionsmedia]

Yes! Perfect timing Austin. Your tutorials are really helping! THX!

[@zilibobazilibobovich7429]

Can you tell me which company of chairs you use?

[@medpire113]

Austin stay dropping real gems out here....sheesh

[@sagaryadur]

I really like this man's consistency

[@MichaelIsaiahh]

u r always on time i just started getting to the stage of being comfortable with my singing

[@VausFlores]

bro i needed this one so bad, insane timing !! 🎉

[@_ConnorEdwardsMusic]

Do you also cut out breaths? Sometimes there’s a breath happening in empty space but only in 1 ear, and it’s kinda distracting too.

[@coreyalyn2249]

Yes.

[@KC10234]

Yes needed this video

[@TheRealSandman]

I've recently started using Groove Track in Logic Pro X & I'm definitely loving it so far! Great video, it's great to see that I'm already doing a lot of things the same way, whilst picking up little details!

[@codymarsden]

This was a great breakdown of your workflow. Thank you!

[@beatzbyhaystixx]

Man I'm working on a song right now God knows I needed this A LOT!!! Thank you for always lol...

[@stestetsonmusic]

Imagine the Beatles hearing Everything has to be Vocaligned and tuned when stacking vocals I like this type of editing for dance tracks and super pop but hate it on rock and soul etc feels to robotic Vocalign can leave artifacts any ideas why that might be happening

[@ShiningHourPop]

That’s why The Beatles, Soul and Motown endure to this day. Just super talented musicians.

[@hevmadeit9354]

thank you for this one!

[@JBreezzBeatz]

NEEDED THIS!!!

[@19Stride]

Do you also use the Cubase build in aligner?

[@parabot2]

Cubase 13 already has something like this i thought ?

[@Byron101_]

YES !

[@TKAYPIRAGASH]

Great video!

[@teddyboamah]

Gems, keep them coming

[@RomanGrigorenko]

Amazing✌🤟🤟🤟

[@Farabeats70]

Very nice🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@michellewentworth9862]

One of the "secrets" of professional vocals is now exposed and will be easy to automate.

[@MrKevinAFernandez]

I bought it today cause of you

[@zerogives]

Hey Austin, amazing tutorial! This saved my last mix. 🙌🙌 Do you recommend using a doubler on the Lead if you already have Dubs?

[@MakePopMusic]

If you want that effect, go for it. I never use doubler as a replacement for dubs. I use it for a stylized effect

[@zerogives]

@@MakePopMusic Thanks a bunch

[@amanoprods]

I can't get Vocalign to capture dubs.. It always pops out an error saying "There is no selected Dub" :(

[@MakePopMusic]

What program? Definitely shoot that over to them because I’ve never had that issue.

[@amanoprods]

@MakePopMusic thanks for the response. I have several bugs. For example, i can't drag&drop audio clips inside vocalign or can't capture multiple dubs at the same timr. I've just submitted a support ticket to synchroarts

[@amanoprods]

@@MakePopMusic program is cubase 13, by the way ✌🏻

[@user-bo8ex4ji7n]

@@amanoprods There are TONS of bugs in Vocalign and Revoice Pro - check out the gearspace thread... this product is hot trash.

[@Byron101_]

I feel you.... it's better to use the great "Audio Alignment" in Cubase. Same results, great workglow without expensive thirdparty stuff.

[@ebyreall]

Can you post a detailed video on how to record and mix & mastering like PARTYNEXTDOOR

[@Dextermoon1]

It only make sense to match dubs to lead once the lead is already properly tuned and timed correct ? Or does this work different

[@MakePopMusic]

The lead needs to be tuned and edited so it can act as the guide for all the dubs and harmonies.

[@tedave123]

Hi there, i think it would be rad if you made a song with suno and then copied it! Keep up the great work

[@rasxiel2493]

Lol i like both version, unedited and edited xd...

[@jewelthompson4210]

Vocalign ruins my tracks. It automatically changes the formants of my voice & there's no way to turn it off.

[@MakePopMusic]

You should be able to choose the tuning / stretching algorithm and that’ll fix it. What version of VOCALIGN?

[@user-bo8ex4ji7n]

Same - revoice pro is even worse and more $$$. Timing is off, formant changes, and the pitch correction algo is a total joke.

[@robshrock-shirakbari1862]

@@user-bo8ex4ji7nthen you might need to refine your process. RVP is amazing.

[@onutube167]

I use Melodyne first and use the timing only setting in revoice. Gives far better results imo

[@robshrock-shirakbari1862]

@@user-bo8ex4ji7nI strongly disagree, and I do this professionally for a living. RVP does require a more skilled hand; but its capabilities for detailed editing are unmatched.

[@KomalSammal-hd6hj]

Bro pls Stephen Sanchez plsssssssss