Do THIS To COOL THE AMD 5800x! Plus be quiet! Dark Rock TF 2

[@LethaR_YT]

I undervolted my 5800x some months ago, to 4.4Ghz at 1.125v and it runs pretty cool. Gaming for 3-4 hours it sits between 49-55 degrees with a 360mm Deepcool AIO, it runs Cinebench r20 at 59c and with a score of around 5700. Oc to 4.725ghz 1.325v it runs cinebench at 75c with a score of 6100-6200, so 6-7% performance loss for 16c less, it’s a yes for me

[@ClassicalTechnology]

Nice!

[@mikescherer7847]

Bought my 5800x when it first came out. Put my good old noctua ndh14 on it. Idles at 30c, games at 55c, and full load r20 80c. All core 4.6ghz 6035 score. Single core 4.975ghz. 635 score. I enabled the offset curve in bios. Works great.

[@zReversalz]

@@mikescherer7847 what settings in the bios do you use?

[@Shane-fk2gz]

Have mine at 4.8ghz @1.275v and yes, very cool. Stays under 60* with a 360mm AIO.

[@mikescherer7847]

@@zReversalz i set negative curve of 20 on all cores and overclock upto 125mghz in pbo

[@falcie7743]

I've got my 5800X at a voltage offset in my bios, so it runs around 1.27v @4.7GHz boost in cinebench. I get more performance at this lower voltage than at the stock voltage, which was attempting to push 1.4v and I'm definitely not comfortable with that.

[@DRbINDA]

Is Dark Rock 4 enough for ryzen 7 5800x?

[@ClassicalTechnology]

Yeah should be fine, 5800x can run hot regardless

[@MadMexism]

Going on 2 weeks with my 5800X, and im coming from a 2700X. Just went into bios, set the Gskill 3600Mhz at cas16 DOCP, and get boost speeds up to 4.855Ghz in game. Running EKWB Custom 280mm open loop. im getting about 75c max, and that cause its also tied into a founders 1080Ti, and that runs about 40c, and overclocked to 2.0Ghz. love my chip. i say set it, and forget it. Also, the kind of thermal paste used also plays a big part. I exclusively use either Kingpin cooling, or thermal grizzly. i get better results with EVGASs kingpin cooling thermal paste. i have a media production rig with a 3800X, and can confirm, with the Corsair 280mm AIO, definitely runs cooler.

[@leleg2225]

I have this CPU...I needed to remove my enermax t50 silent edition heatsink, and replace it with an Arctic Cooling 360mm AIO to lower the temperatures!!! (All in a very airflowed phantex p600s case)

[@Ishaan2350]

I use a h150i elite capellix for my 5800x, i only get 62c when playing on a competitive level. Keep it mind that I have 6 other case fans in the lian li o11 dynamic

[@Cjtpine]

Um how? I have same setup

[@JDRANDOM]

im still getting fried at 90c did pbo undervolt already swapped thermal paste made sure everything is in tact my cooler is mag coreliquid 240r i have 3 120mm intake fans 1 exhaust at back and 2 from the aio going up my idle temp is stuck 53c anyone can help me?

[@Cjtpine]

Yep same and mine is getting hot

[@XDaWsOnX2]

Same here. I think we just didn’t get the good chips.

[@Cjtpine]

@@XDaWsOnX2 was able to fix mine. Changed the bios and ppt. And switched my case to Corsair 5000d airflow helped a ton!!!

[@XDaWsOnX2]

@@Cjtpine I had the 3700x and had no issues. It was great. Got the 5800x and it runs so much hotter. Not sure what I’ll do tbh. But let her run at 88-90 and be done with it lol.

[@imranmohd83]

Got a 5800X with NZXT Z63 AIO in a Lian Li O11 Dynamic case Idle temp: 33-35 deg C Gaming temps at 1440p - 50-65 deg Video 4K transcode - CPU at 100% - max temp 70-76deg

[@Sorty1337]

How u manage that? Got the same AiO and when I play something, I easily hit 70 degrees

[@imranmohd83]

well - could be many reasons… In my case have kept the AIO fans as intake from out and not exhaust, that helped the temps, kept the fan curve a lil aggressive. the room temp also makes a difference

[@DomacireceptiNet]

PBO at 120-70-115, CO at negative 20 (or investing some time and do per core with OCCT and AVX2 tests) should drop your temps from 90C to 71C, and give you decent 5930 in CR20. And all this with half decent arctic esports 34 duo. With beefier cooling solutions you could go with lower temps, and higher PBO settings. Always increase TDC and EDC in pair, by 5. Then test. Or go lower. Somehow TDC 70 gives me 70 degrees, 75 gives me 75 degrees etc, but also MHz go up with it. 75-120 gives over 6000, but I don't like 80C temps... Oh, and idle temps are around 37C Btw, do not touch manual undervolting or any of the other stuff, this is the way to go.

[@techsenseindia]

I feel i just made a biggest mistake of my life by buying this cpu 🤬🤬

[@SiCSpiT1]

I use PBO in the bios but with a negative sign curve (basically when he disabled PBO if your mobo has the option choose manual instead that's where you'll see the curve option) of 30 (people say this is the max) and adjust PPT, TDC, and EDC through Ryzen Master while I ran my test then plugged them into the bios once I found a sweet spot. Was able to drop my temps as much as 20C with my 240 AIO and ran Cinebench r23 at 71C (before it wound throttle at ~90C) scoring between ~15500 and ~15700 multi, where before my best run without throttling was ~15100 at 87C. My gaming temps in bf2042 were ~85C, now after two matches it doesn't go above 72C. My idle was between 40C - 50C, now it stays in the mid to low 30s. I think I got a lemon but this makes my computer useable without ear plugs!

[@enkhjargall1]

hi, what was the ppt tdc edc settingS?

[@SiCSpiT1]

@@enkhjargall1 They are the maximum wattage, temperature, and voltage limits for PBO.

[@Psyko_Blood]

Same here.. -30 and take -125Mhz on all cores.. because he wasnt already to stable the 4.840Ghz.. now its stable on 4.716Ghz all the time and Cinebench max temps are 72°C, gaming 55°C and Idle 33-35°C with a 280mm AIO :D I'm watching right now a Twitch stream and have 37°C xD Thats crazy ! I dropped 10-15°C easily with the curve optimizer (PBO2)

[@digitalmike330]

Hello, I'm late to this video but I see you have this working on a Crosshair DTX mobo. I've been told it doesn't fit. How did you manage to make it fit?

[@TheRomZZes]

My 5800x has in Bios 4.7GHz at 1.275v. Cinebench r20 shows 6207 points. The maximum temperature after the test is 78 degrees. I am using an old tower Noctua NH-D14 :)

[@marwanx9668]

how man !! my 5800x runs the same but with 91c temp with 240mm AIO ! what did u do bro

[@Major774]

Mine runs a Cinebench R23 stress test at 83C (using a 240 AIO, a carbonaut pad with a -18 curve optimizer), happy with mine.

[@ClassicalTechnology]

Is the curve optimizer the only change you made?

[@Major774]

@@ClassicalTechnology Yup, kept it nice and simple. I just followed the guidance from Optium Tech’s video as it was very simple and easy to follow.

[@jalenbunn7114]

Setting it to tpu 2 was enough to drop my temps significantly, thanks

[@kadj79]

Check your vrm temperature. That might give you that low cinebench score if vrm are too hot.

[@blacklanton]

I thought I might have to under volt my 5800x but the temps are ridiculously good on my rig with a aorus waterforce 2 aio. It keeps it on 50c under heavy load and 30c while browsing.

[@montreauxs]

Deep Cool Assassin III does a great job.

[@ExSkyCyclePilot]

The 5000 series CPUs are designed to keep pushing the clock speed up until the hotspot temperature hits 90°C - not to be confused with the overall CPU temperature, which will be lower. Undervolt with Curve Optimizer, and the CPU will compensate by running faster, until, again, the hotspot 90°C. Put a monster cooler on one of these CPUs, and it'll do the same thing - up the speed until the hotspot hits 90°C. This is all by design. If that makes you uncomfortable, engage the ECO mode in the BIOS, choose one of the built-in PBO settings that limit the wattage, or look for a setting that lets you set a temperature limit. My MSI B550 board has all three options.

[@adiaz1182]

So if it’s by design, then it’s safe? I’m just wondering. I checked in AMD website and it says 90-95c is normal for this cpu. So I’m scratching my head as to why everyone is freakin out..

[@ExSkyCyclePilot]

@@adiaz1182 That is correct. It is by design - 95°C for the 5600 and 90°C for all the other 5,000 series CPUs. People are freaking out because 90°C is a far hotter limit than that of any processor in the past. This is a trend with both CPUs and GPUs, and as an experienced electronics technician, I'm concerned that manufacturers are pushing the limits of silicon in an effort to keep up with the competition. Maybe it is safe, but I will not be surprised, in the future, to see CPUs and/or GPUs failing after just a few years. I hope I'm wrong. I have a 5800x, and I'm running it stock, so we'll see.

[@adiaz1182]

@@ExSkyCyclePilot would it be wise to run my fans full speed. I just did that and now running 75c gaming

[@ExSkyCyclePilot]

@@adiaz1182 Are you monitoring the core/Tctl temperature - HWInfo does that, by the way? That's the one that hits 90°C - not the overall CPU temperature. No matter how you cool that CPU, it will compensate by upping the clock speed until the core hits 90°C, if you fully load the CPU with something like Cinebench R23. The only real way to limit the Tctl is to use a BIOS setting to limit the temperature, if your board has that setting, or use a preset or ECO mode to limit the power.

[@hyperion752]

Twice i bought an aio pump cooler and none of them is cool enought for my ryzen 7 5800x3d maybe i will try the Dark Rock TF 2

[@Bsc8]

I'm using an arctic freezer 34 esports duo on my 5800x, i only changed the arctic fans with 2 cooler master sickleflowV2. Then i used pbo to undervolt It a bit with an offset of 10 (negative curve), i'm also using an msi b550 gaming plus with the latest BIOS. Then i did some stress tests and benchmarks with CPUz and cinebench and i got these temps: AmbTemp 29c (so with AC of my room off) full load max temp 85c, idle 40-45c, web browsing "high50s", gaming 60-75c. BUT if i turn on my AC to lower the AmbTemp of 23-24c i got full load max temp 82c, idle 35-40c, browsing and low loads "50ish", gaming on the "High60s-Low70s". My bench scores are all around 6700-6800pts in multithreading, and 650-670pts in single core. With my small undervolt my chip seems stable, It boost higher than factory speeds and i get approx 9-10c degrees less than stock setting. Basically: with stock settings= almost thermal throttle (but still good benchs Always over 600pts on single and 6000pts on multi); with my small tweaks= never thermal throttle, higher clocks, significantly lower temps, and i always beat a stock r9 5000 on every benchmark ;) (for examplr 668pts cpuz single core, 6782pts cpuz multithreading score l) i think i have one of the best chips and i'm Happy i paid 420€ for my 5800x in April'21 on Amazon Italy 😎 P.S. maximum boost frequency all cores 4863mhz

[@ClassicalTechnology]

Thank you for the detailed feedback!

[@Bsc8]

@@ClassicalTechnology sorry for the neverending edits btw, i'm italian my english sucks 🤣

[@Bsc8]

Now i only need to save some money after i will be able to grab an rtx3070... I just want a good 360mm aio to keep It cooler than this :) keep up the content and stay cheeki 😘

[@suhdud4646]

Im running R23 on my 5800x paired with a Phanteks Glacier One AIO 280mm. My multicore test results using HWID - power draw peaks at 150w, temps peak at 88c, peak clock speed briefly hit 5.3GHz with a average thought out the test of 4.8Ghz and a final all core score of 15480 all the while running in a Phanteks 515etg case. Gaming will NEVER push this CPU to these levels and on average my CPU peaks at mid to low 70c's while gaming.

[@mikesmith-wk7vy]

my shop just finished building my 5800x computer the be quiet dark rock 4 pro i bought isnt keeping up they told me , that sucks that cooler is way overkill and still not enough

[@bluebird0828]

Is the Vetroo V5 good for 5800x, I saw Jaytwo cents did a video on it with a 5900x and got way better cooling temps, I dont really play around with the OC settings so yeah. 5800x or 5900x?.

[@vaggelis2001]

mine right now is 4.7GHZ with 1.208v stable max temp 55-58c ON cb but ok,im on full custom loop.in gaming is about 39-44c

[@blueeyednick]

I just keep it at stock. It's hot enough already. Unfortunately.

[@ClassicalTechnology]

What temps are you getting usually?

[@falcie7743]

If your bios allows you to do an offset voltage, you can get more performance at a lower temp with a negative offset.

[@nukfauxsho]

I have the Dark Rock Pro 4 and my 5800X idles at 35-50c (at fan 20%) and cinebench tops out at 70c when I'm running the latest version. Using PBO2 with curve +200 and per core curve as well. Getting 5025Mhz on two cores and 5050Mhz on the other two, the rest will reach 4950Mhz. When using prime95 I will then hit 90c. Reddit was a big help taming this beast! Love my 5800X and DRP4. Remember, these chips are supposed to run hot! it only has one CCD, so the TDie gets that heat from the CCD (as that tends to run hotter on my end).

[@nukfauxsho]

Also i'm getting 5550 on Cinebench R20 with my limiter for tjmax set to 80.

[@laszlopinter8847]

What temps you get for Valorant? 85-90, right? That's like a laptop's temp when someone didn't repaste it after 2 years. Terrible temperature. IT DOES NOT supposed to run that hot. 5800x owners should be prepared to lose their cpus waaay earlier than other 5000 series owners if they are playing cpu bounded games. For me, not even a 360 arctic freezer aio could help. I've got 400-500 fps in Valorant, 1080p low settings, 85-90celsius. Sorry, not sorry, went with 5600x instead.

[@nukfauxsho]

@@laszlopinter8847 60c

[@jacobmontes5000]

@@laszlopinter8847 yea I need better cooling not getting the fps I’m suppose to have

[@jacobmontes5000]

@@laszlopinter8847 we’re do I find an accurate cpu temp??

[@94sn95gt]

Ive got a hyper 212 black running 2 120 mm fans one pulling on pushing. Stock core speeds in cinebench 4.8ghz boost running 100% on multi core for 10 min my temp never got over 84. With a score of 15400

[@DunstunGamX03]

i too have a hyper 212 black and planning to upgrade from r5 3600 to 5800x without changing my hyper 212....not sure whether CM hyper212 black can handle 5800x high temp while 4-6 hrs gaming...hows your tmp going in high time gaming?

[@MrC8025]

you got a really really really bad sample with 4.4 at 1.35.

[@dawnoftruth1]

Noctua nh-d15, noice and frostayyy

[@mathewsjoy8464]

Do you recon a Noctua NH u12s would be good in a matx case?

[@youtuup]

It runs at 142 WATTS instead of 105W. Lower the Watts to 105W and the temperature drops, performance increase.

[@JoannaHammond]

I capped mine at 115W and a negative offset on the PBO Curve of (25 whatever units it is [MSI Board]) and it's really nice. Even with Prime 95 torture test with tinies it never goes above 71C and all cores clock to 4.4GHz (cooling fans are only at 50% as they are REALLY loud above that.) If it only needs 4 cores they each will go to 4.85GHz. So I'm generaly happy. In normal loads (gaming) in stays around the 60's. It doesn't matter how far you push your cooling choice it just cannot get the heat out of the CPU fast enough.

[@salim7025]

Correct me if i am wrong but I think manual OC limits single core performance as it won't go past the clock you set (4.6ghz for example) which isn't ideal for gaming imo. Here is what i did to lower my temps Changed my case from nzxt h500 to phanteks p500a for better airflow set PBO to advanced Power limits to Disabled Curve optimizer to negative 30 all cores with these i went from 90c to 81c in Cb23 and from 80c to 69-70c in games like warzone Putting power limits to 120-85-130 also helps decrease 2-3c without losing performance with these, in cb23 multi my cpu runs at 4.65ghz and in games it is stable at 4.85ghz.

[@MrC8025]

I can tell you that I went from 62c curve -20 4.9ghz to 49-52c setting manual 4.7ghz @ 1.3v in vahala. Drop 10c and only lost 1 frame in performance.

[@Herry_07]

bro your videos are so fire

[@HarryLikesLambos]

I cant afford a better cooler. but my cpu stays at 90C alot how can i fix without new cooler?

[@StrongArmEntertainment]

Look up curve optimizers

[@HarryLikesLambos]

@@StrongArmEntertainment i have my fan at 100% all the time, does bull shit

[@demasprojects]

Breath sometimes

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Thanks

[@Psyko_Blood]

dropped my temps from 83-84°C to 72-73°C by Undervolting my CPU via Curve Optimizer (or PBO2) I disabled PBO and tage a negative -30 in CUrve Optimizer.. my CPu boosted still at 4.840Ghz.. but not stable (its not the Undervolt) so i take a -125Mhz so it boost to 4.716Ghz and stable, all the time Gaming is 55°C and Cinebench like I said 72-73°C :D and super quiet. This was a real Game changer for me.and very easy to do in the Bios

[@Miladin.]

which cooler/aio

[@Psyko_Blood]

@@Miladin. Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Elite, Damn, the names are getting longer and longer xD

[@Miladin.]

@@Psyko_Blood i have cooler master ml240L and i cant cool down my 5800x so i need to buy like 360mm aio but not that big case soo maybe dark rock pro 5 ?

[@Miladin.]

or sell whole pc because its giving me nightmares and i cant do it anymore bro

[@Psyko_Blood]

@@Miladin. ​ You dont need a 360 AIO.. 360mm cools the same like a 280, ONLY in the long run the 360 is better. For example: When you need your pc for rending A LOT, like 24/7 buy a 360.. when you game and browse.. sometimes rendering (like I do) the 280mm is PERFECT. I have the same problem, i can only put a 360mm in the front in my case, but i wanted to have the AIO in the top. So i buy'd the 280mm and with the Undervolt as i mention below, my temps are sugar. Check if you can put a 280mm AIO (its a radiator with 2x 140mm Fans) in the front (tubes top site) or in the top like I did, and youre fine :) I was frustrated too and this changed it all. Did you have tried the Undervolt? This makes 75% of my cooling. Btw, I did the same thing on my friend's PC and teh same results, his temps are fine now too

[@KeithN87]

Just bought this today and it had changed my world

[@DunstunGamX03]

can it be handled with Cooler master hyper 212 black??

[@KeithN87]

@@DunstunGamX03 yeah just make sure you have the am4 back plate

[@DunstunGamX03]

@@KeithN87 which cpu cooler are you using??

[@KeithN87]

@@DunstunGamX03 I'm using the be quiet. Pure Rock 2

[@gubert2799]

My cinebench R23 temps were at 90c, but I followed a video that changed that to no higher than 78c (kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y56Wh2udmMufirc). In COD Cold War I now sit around 75c - 80c In BFV I now sit around 81c - 86c (this is what got my attention) at IDLE I now sit around 45c - 60c (I guess that's normal?) Another noteworthy thing is I have a gigantic 3080 Ti, so maybe when that's running it's causing the 5800x to heat up more, idk. Also, my case is the NZXT H510 Elite, which doesn't have the best cooling.

[@xjwolfxgaming7991]

Just purchased a 5950x a few seconds ago aparantly bb had dropped some this morning and I’m upgrading from my 5800x but I still have a 5800x in my stream rig

[@ClassicalTechnology]

Congrats!

[@concretec0w]

Lower the voltage bud, 5800x is way over volted. Lowering helps PBO to boost to higher frequencies and also reduce temps

[@chiefsx1659]

What timings do you recommend mines at 1.45 v stock and it keeps crashing on me

[@concretec0w]

@@chiefsx1659 you want to UNDERVOLT it. Those are stock voltages. Can’t remember what I set but it’s around 1.2, lots of vids on this have a dig around

[@animegeek6118]

My 5800x was running hot even with a 360 aio no matter what I did. I think it’s just a flawed chipset.

[@XDaWsOnX2]

Same. On cyberpunk even with eco mode on my chip pulls 85w and runs at 88-90c.