Do we NEED Another 5150?!

[@landonbailey]

release the 5151 already!

[@Ottophil]

My 6505 is already 1355 better

[@kennhern]

Mooer already did the 5153 lol

[@distortionua]

Brands like flamma and mooer already claimed every other number in existence leaving EVH with only 5150 as an option

[@nickm.9474]

Obviously if a company like UA audio is putting out these type of modelers they’re going to cover every classic amp. So yes. We need this amp from UA.

[@armillaryspherestudios]

"They’re gunna make him do this ‘till he’s 90!"

[@ukguitarnoodle]

EVH is going to be wrung out like all the Hendrix merch.

[@ScienceofLoud]

The legacy of Hendrix is that 60 years after his death, brands that didn't even exist when he was alive are upcharging for product with his signature on them. Can't have been the type of immortality he would have envisioned.

[@tyroneenglish8396]

PRS has entered the chat 😂😂

[@getshwiftygaming447]

Nah, most of us aren't buying a 5150 because of Eddie. A lot of us never cared about Van Halen because they were average on their best day.

[@BrianOates]

@@getshwiftygaming447wow, quite the bizarro world take there. In reality, like Hendrix with “Are You Experienced?”, rock music had a noticeable change after Van Halen 1 came out. EVH’s playing style influenced many of the bands that came after, guitarists bought each album as they first came out and played them until the grooves on the records wore out trying to transcribe the solos and rhythm parts on each song.

[@getshwiftygaming447]

@@BrianOates I'm aware he was influential for some but that does make him an influence for all of them or even the majority of them and the music they made is nothing similar to the music Eddie made. He wasn't nearly the only influence or even the biggest influence for a lot of them either. Eddie himself wasn't even unique and people can keep claiming Eddie had this special/unique sound for the time but he didn't and his style wasn't unique either he just way over did it on the tapping and party tricks. He was talented but he was all flash with no substance as a song writer.

[@MojoStrummer]

I think the biggest difference between all of the 5150 clones is ironically the part of them that will get used the least: the clean channel. The Fender-produced, EVH branded ones have a genuinely great clean channel that outperforms all of the other models in my opinion. But almost no one that's looking for a 5150 is really all that concerned with the clean channel, and the crunch/lead channels on all of the various models sound damn near identical, and what differences there are can be removed with a turn of a knob in most cases.

[@the_hippykiller22]

I disagree, a lot of bands play cleans live, it's more light drive Hard Rock tones that are less used. And they all sound different having used most of them even though they retain a certain common voice. But yes, the clean on my 50w EVH is impressive

[@MojoStrummer]

@@the_hippykiller22 on the same note, a lot of bands aren't using amps live anymore at all, and a lot that do, often bring a second amp for clean tones. The 5150 itself is almost never set to the clean channel. Hence why this video contained exclusively distorted sounds for the demo.

[@davidvonjohnston]

I play my Iconic with almost every band Im in. The cleans are so great

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Was great meeting you and hanging out! Keep up the amazing work!

[@fallenshallrise]

This is basically guitar gear as a whole right now. Thousands of Tube Screamer clones and every pre amp is an 800 clone or a 5150/Dual Rec/SLO clone. How did it all get so boring? And why do they think we all want to re-acquire the same gear we already own? (I’m one to talk since I probably have 6 or more takes on the Big Muff at least.)

[@alexcorona]

Consumers keep buying them, so companies have little incentive to stop….

[@burresseffects]

Might have something to do with Marshall refusing for decades to give people an amp that sounds like their favorite records out of the box. Friedman has filled that void.

[@jw6588]

Same reason we're getting Toy Story 5. Consumers have low standards.

[@getshwiftygaming447]

@@jw6588 no it's not even a remotely similar situation. The amp in a pedal market still has tons of room to grow and there's never too many variations of a particular amp circuit. Hollywood pumps out eternal sequels because it makes money yes but that's not what's happening with all this gear. These are for people like me that like the 5150 sound but don't see a realistic reason to drop $600+ on an amp that frankly is just an SLO clone. If you're a touring musician having $600+ amps makes sense but otherwise you can get nearly identical sounds for fractions of the price thanks to devices like this.

[@oldmanshreds]

All the clones of Tubescreamers looking all miserable from the corner

[@ScienceofLoud]

How many more Tube Screamers can the world handle?

[@oldmanshreds]

@@ScienceofLoud Thats why I deliberately try to avoid tubescreamers. But, alas! I have not yet ventured in the realm of 5150, which I deeply wish to feel, to see, to hear. 'Tis why, there will be another 5150 release in the future, done in the way of Friedman IR-X. If not yet it hasn't yet, I am not aware of such contraption. But it would suit my bedroom laboratory of messy metal riffs quite nicely.

[@MrUltraworld]

Tubescreamers don't cost $400!

[@therewasascene]

If these UAs had effects loops and headphone outs I don’t think everyone would bitch about the price so much. I don’t hear these complaints about the Friedmans. I’d like to hear more hype on how well this thing is copping the sound! I’m impressed. (Just gimme that headphone out and fx loop or I’m not paying that either…I’d have to spring for a dang Endgame. Oof. Not happening.)

[@MrUltraworld]

@@therewasascene The Freidman's are $200, the Dlx is $269

[@julienklettenberg5816]

That opening rant 🤣 GOLD 🤣

[@cizmar1972]

Actually this pedal is badass, it sounds amazing and is perfect for a minimalist rig.

[@the_hippykiller22]

I think you're missing the point that most 5150 users myself included are not mainly influenced by VH (MH, In Flames, Trivium, deathcore djent death metal so many styles use them proficiently) So this legacy thing, we don't care. But having recorded on OG Peavey 5150s, a Kraken, and now a 5150III I can tell you that they all have a different flavour and don't sound the same. I tracked the rhythm guitars on my bands last album with a kraken and my EVH and they sound vastly different. That's like saying they're all SLO 100 copies. Yes, but also very much not at all. That pedal is cool but in a world where Tonex exists I think it's not the best option, just a good one.

[@ScienceofLoud]

Universal Audio ANTI 1992 High Gain Amp is the latest in a long line of 5150 imitators - does it have reason to exist? Colin takes a quick first look while at 42 Gear Street. Buy at Sweetwater: UA Anti - sweetwater.sjv.io/eKo6R6 EVH Frankenstrat - sweetwater.sjv.io/xkx7nx More 5150 products: thmn.to/thocf/rvt9w4an3u This video contains product provided by Sweetwater. More details on how Science of Loud implements product promotion - www.csguitars.co.uk/disclosure #42GSsix #5150 #UAAnti More from Science of Loud: Support on Patreon: www.patreon.com/csguitars Join Science of Loud Discord - discord.gg/uJHFgJRunb Buy Science of Loud Merchandise - www.csguitars.co.uk/store Website - www.csguitars.co.uk Contact - [e-mail] ___________________________________ *Description contains affiliate links. Purchasing using one of these links will generate a small commission for Science of Loud at no additional cost to you.*

[@getshwiftygaming447]

Of course it has a reason to exist, the tone of a 5150 is incredible and has room to be improved or modified. Eddie doesn't even matter in the equation because a lot of us don't care about Van Halen now and never did to begin with.

[@jburdsinfuse]

Simply put, we are largely moving away from amps in any format. UAFX has found a format that really works. It’s more accessible than a Quad Cortex or Fractal (think about the old school amp and knob guys). Even though they’re not cheap, they’re still manageable in price. I love my tubes, but it’s less about tone and more about ease of use to front of house. As long as these pedals keep evolving and the soundboards and interfaces we use get better, we’ll keep getting new generations of 5150s alongside Dumbles and AC30s. Why are there 1000 Tubescreamers…now that’s a real mystery.

[@tonekilltech]

If we keep going at this rate in 10 or 20 years, we'll have as many 5150 amps and pedals as we have guitar youtubers today.

[@ScienceofLoud]

Oversaturation is a real issue.

[@ScienceofLoud]

If you want a more in depth look BEFORE the Frankenstrat went completely out of tune, Jon's video should satisfy you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXS3fKqKn6tri5osi=eWHSySMQBhMqcI34

[@JYZProductions]

people still want "vintage reissue" les pauls and strats, they still want tube screamers like they were made in their glory days among many others.

[@therewasascene]

Kraken’s based on it but I feel like the sound is distinctly its own. The signature fizz is absent and the mids are throatier and the overall tone is drier for lack of a better word. Put it this way - if I wanted a 5150 in the mix I wouldn’t go for it. 5150 for my applications. That compression that they worked on is 👌🏼 and much more usable than the uber sparkle of the 5150. Light gain ends up way better for me as well.

[@-processdrone-]

The pedals is kinda useful , for some, and thanks for showing it to us. That guitar, however, is only really useful for incendiary purposes , just cook some sausages over it's flames or something.

[@doctoribanez]

Sounds awesome. $400 is a lot though. Imo anyway

[@louderthangod]

I think a lot of young players couldn’t care less about Eddie but love the 5150 because it’s essentially been the default metal amp for many of the sub-genres.

[@eljoel89]

Honestly, the awesome parts about Eddie Van Halen's sound came from effects and studio tricks. Things like flanger, phaser, chorus, delay, plate reverb, wah. Or taking a power drill to his guitar strings. The technique and experimentation was what people idolized, not the amp.

[@ericandrews1661]

I disagree. I think that the best things about vh came from the man himself. His hands, his mind, his soul, his heart. There will never be another like him. He did make great use of all the things you mention, but I think he was at his very best when he was younger and using his Marshalls. The 5150s are good, just not the same as the Marshalls. Which is why that's the only thing I'll use

[@getshwiftygaming447]

The technique and experimentation can be nice but it was kinda dumb. He inspired more people to ruin their guitars than he should have lol Frankenstein was iconic for the wrong reasons, it's so ugly and depressing that it stares into the soul lol

[@andersjjensen]

As someone with a 5W Harley Benton practice amp (I live in an apartment block) who records straight into my laptop, yeah, this pedal sounds awesome! I don't want umpteen big amps. I want good sound on my recordings.

[@random-guitar]

I just use the 5150 model in my Helix. But, I don’t remember what cabinet model I’m using! I’ll have to check into that Mesa cab model. I liked that one, as well. As always, love the content!

[@ricdale7813]

5150's get close so do Marshall's ,Friedmans,etc....but EVH's sound was his Wet/Dry/Wet Rigs. One amp may have everything dimed and the other 2 dialed and effected much different from each other. A Wall of Sound with a Mad Scientist type of sonic out come EVH was. There is always room for another Nod too King EVH.

[@SamBrockmann]

We definitely needed this, yes.

[@davidlawson7786]

Very good video, Been watching videos on the UA Anti, love Colin’s ear, and yes you have a point about whether or not we need another 5150 pedal/amp? UA does a great job with this one. I have the Bugera 6262 120 infinium head, it’s exactly the 6505/5150 tone. I’m getting the Anti for portability. Cheers from Chicago!

[@andrewmorgan1640]

Great look at the pedal, and cheers to your knob fondling friend. I love van halen and I don’t have any 5150 variant. But I’m just not sure I can support the choking of hippos. Keep it loud brother! #TheresBeenAMurder

[@juanvaldez4043]

Excellent sound, just can’t get over the price, it’s currently going for about $400 US. There’s all kinda of pedals I can get that either do more, or cost less.

[@ScienceofLoud]

It's a lot of money for a single pedal - UA always is - but when you think about this being not just the recreation of the 5150 amplifier and all the cabs, but also containing an overdrive and a noise gate, the price starts to look more reasonable compared to buying each of those elements individually

[@nickm.9474]

So buy those

[@juanvaldez4043]

@@nickm.9474 a smart guy in every group I see.

[@PedalPlayhouse]

“Eddies corpse wrung out for whatever is left” 😆 def loved the tone of this one, both you and Jon found some great stuff. it will go on my list of pedals to get in the future.

[@craigmsmithmd]

Goddamn the opening rant is great.

[@grumpyrocker]

The TC Electronic version sounds great and is much more affordable.

[@Earthwormjimm]

The thumbnail is another level of savage

[@vondragonnoggin]

Nice preface to get everyone hating on a product! I never had a 5150 because I could never afford one in the 90’s. I only like the first 5 Van Halen Albums so just like the Plexi VH sound. I love the pedal though. Will do everything from spanking clean on rhythm to early VH/classic rock on rhythm to high gain thrash crunch channel to high gain 90’s and modern stuff since we know the 5150 still is a popular amp today. Whatever man - you don’t like it and not for you. Cool. No one has to buy it. Lots of other products being made too. It’s sounds like the amplifier the room for me because I don’t use the cab sims with any UA amp pedals. They go out to power amps and my real cabs - the pedals then sound very much like the raw amps. At least that was my take A/B’ing the Lion 68 against my 50 watt Plexi into same cabs. You do you for sure though. No one has to like them. Particularly if they have a KZbin channel and 30 amps sitting around.

[@ScienceofLoud]

Literally the first thing I say in this video is "the 5150 is a great amplifier" and I never said anything bad about the UA ANTI either. I'm saying that perpetually using a dead artists name credibility to sell product they never signed off on is problematic, and the industry needs to just let dead artists be dead. How are you able to watch this and somehow accredit criticism of capitalist practices to criticism of the product?

[@KennethFinuf]

Eddie sound is still the best after all these years!! 😮❤

[@Chainsaw_HM-2]

*WE* don’t need another 5150… But our 5150 *NEEDS* its own 5150!

[@chitlingritsin]

roland is using dsp with an amp sim of their jc-120 in the jc-22 and jc-40 amps and fender is doing a similar thing with the tonemaster series. no reason at all why fender's iconic 5150 series use a dsp and whichever 5150 amp sim they want. arguably the quality of the iconic 5150 would improve.

[@clemguitar63]

The Tone is Amazing!

[@myeyesarewaiting]

Almost every car manufacturer makes an estate, a hatchback, a 4x4, a saloon, etc etc etc... everything in guitar is going the same way. Your main architypes exist in the pedal world (Tubescreamer, bluesbreaker, RAT, Nobels ODR-1, Klon). And the same happens in the amp world (JMP bluesbreaker, Marshal Plexi, Fender Deluxe Reverb, Vox AC30...)

[@igorstavtsev5962]

I am just glad that UA dived into high-gain territory, since UA knows what they do. The good thing it does sound good, no matter what it based on.

[@Headless97]

You have a career talking about luxury items for artistic expression. The proliferation of these have made them higher quality at lower prices. You didn't make your camera, your microphone, your computer, your software, the cables, the internet, or the energy grid powering them but you get the benefits of them for your enjoyment and your career. Capitalism is really dragging you down.

[@ScienceofLoud]

It's the exploitation of corpses I have a problem with.

[@McWirst]

Poor colin looks as if he is on the verge of tears while trying the pedal

[@palmdanes7374]

can definitely say ive fallen down the rabbit hole of trying to chase his first album tone, so little of it is the amp itself its things like the phase 90 and the reverb being hard panned to the right, and of course being eddie van halen himself, cant replicate his talent

[@asnark7115]

To be fair, it's not about "name recognition" to the consumer. There has simply never been a better tone on guitar aside from maybe Stevie Ray Vaughan's rig. But SR only had one legendary tone approach. EVH did it with 3 different amp and set-up types.

[@getshwiftygaming447]

I can name 10+ better tones than Eddie, probably more. Eddie was good but his music was a headache to listen to and was rather boring because of how unintelligible his playing was. Shredding is cool and tapping is a fun party trick but that's not a song and it doesn't fit just because you shoved it in there. Eddie probably was the most offensively repetitive shredder ever and he didn't even do any of his techniques as good as the people he borrowed then from.

[@gsterneman]

Maybe the worst part of "Beat It", but it was the BEST part of "Eat It! "

[@none_remaining]

The eat it solo is so very good

[@BaritoneGoatStudio]

Hell of a Thumbnail! And yeah… 5150s are a bit overdone. But if there is a way to capture lighting in a bottle and sell it, people will buy it. And there is always a new player looking for the sound, and this pedal might be the best of its type so far.

[@veers0r]

Really Colin, you couldn't find a guitar that would stay in tune at Hennings? During gear street? :D

[@riffsnoleads]

Amp/pedal companies making something innovative? Taking chances? Not cloning the TS9/Big Muff? That would require more than cynicism and a desire for instant profits. Did you EVER consider the shareholders in all of this? DID YOU?!

[@sudaslade1308]

Beside the fact of the EVH Frankenstein signature being out of tune. Floyd rose obviously. This 5150 pedal is something that is good for using on an album, which means in a recording studio. Having amp heads like the 5150's but this unit not breaking the bank will something for some versatility in what some is working for, if your in to have an optional amp head but can't afford the 5150 brand.

[@Smurfman256]

Alternatively, TSE X50 is free (if you can find the old 1.0 version hanging around). And there's more free IRs of Mesa Rectifier 4x12 cabs out there than there are actual Mesa 4x12 Rectifier cabs. Or you can be stupid like me and break his back getting a 6505+ 112 Combo and sticking a Greenback in it. :V

[@kevinhernandez2594]

"Knob fondler?"

[@ScienceofLoud]

One who fondles knobs

[@Hatredy11]

Perhaps the most inorganically marketed pedal ever. The sheep will flock.

[@ryanfraley7113]

Of course a poorly setup Floyd will end up out of tune. Also the D-Tuna doesn’t work with a guitar half step down. It is only functional on E Standard. I’m not sure what the point of this pedal is. I’ll still prefer an actual 5150/6505 style amp. Also Ed’s greatest strength as a guitarist was his rhythm playing, people underplay how good that is because of the focus on things like two hand tapping, tremolo picking, and the various types of harmonics he used.

[@gorbrushthreepwood]

How dare you. Just generally.

[@PhilLament]

I feel the same about all the "marshall in a box" units. Too many available and at this point it comes down to which cork has the best smell or which box has the best graphics.

[@gigaphonicon]

I still want a 6505+

[@Juppi13]

This thing sounds like a Behringer Ultra Metal.

[@brrblack497]

The Lion isn't enough, and the ANTI is too much. Gimmie a Rectumfryer or SLO, type thingy!

[@jenshaeckl]

i wait for the 5199...i bet it will be a one channel clean only amp🤔

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

I'm sorry, I will dispute the 5150 being a great amplifier in terms of its sound. Sure, it's iconic for the legends that used it and at some point you can get a fitting sound out of it, but most of the time I find it quite horrible. It's just that high-end (or higher-mids, I suppose) that I just find really shrill and offputting. But again, it's one of those sounds, like a Plexi or something, that is a bit limited to a certain context for working well. - So I agree, I don't think we need more, cause there are plenty, if not too many, making me just wonder why as I don't see much appeal in it. - That's just me, the snowflake minority if you want to think that, but while I've tried to like it I just never or rarely did. - And it's no coincidence I named the Plexi as an example as I feel almost exactly the same about that sound, appropriate at times but in general I can't really stand it. - That doesn't mean I think they shouldn't exist. They just do and they're a thing and do a certain thing and that's cool and all. It's just a "not for me" thing.

[@crackedspyglass]

"How does a d-tuner work?" Usually? They don't lol.

[@CorNigrum]

UAFX keeps on releasing the same digital pedal, still no midi or switching/expression input, only Bluetooth into the UA ecosystem. I guess I'm just weary about another digital serf system that you just own as long as you have access to the walled garden and that will be obsolete in a few years, unlike the hardware tube amps those guys actually played. In a way they're controlling the hardware to safeguard their software. Gotta get 'em all, I guess. Most of those UA pedals sound great though, not so sure about this one. It sounds a bit harsh and not very dynamic (ironically not unlike a 5150, heh).

[@tjfrech]

I have th P1 from AMT Electronics. Its really barebones compared to this but I think it really does the basic 5150 thing as well as this.

[@nickm.9474]

Yes

[@sheldonwright8770]

Alot of players go for the 5150 not because of evh.its the most recorded metal amp so i understand the ‘copys’ i get what your saying tho

[@nickm.9474]

How many Marshall in box pedals are there?! Kind of a silly post. After all. There isn’t anywhere near as many 5150 sounding devices. I can maybe think of three. 😄

[@jorgiewtf]

I love the sound of a 5150 but ONLY when Eddie Van Halen plays it. The sound of it just doesn’t work for me.

[@brandonweeth3904]

Always glad to hear from you! Cheers from Wisconsin!!!

[@spunkybrewster1972]

Not big on that thumbnail. But more content off the corpse of EVH is okay? Slippery slope, my man.

[@OrangeMicMusic]

Do we NEED Another 5150? No. But it's good for companies to take your money :)

[@tmoss89]

Evh small box head is the best amp ever for 409$

[@AndyGravity]

I wish more musicians would stop buying/using alot of the same gear as one another altogether. How are you to find your own unique sound? Kinda feels like we are missing out on alot of potentially interesting tonal possibilities.

[@johnfritzenjr.1240]

You’re making money off him too

[@nybyooboy1]

LMMFAO! Tell it like the hell it is Bru!

[@zachmoney7952]

Can’t they hurry up and make the orange version!

[@conradovitorlopesfernandes5570]

why should one buy a modeler that models just one amp since, for the same price or even less, you can buy modelers with much more amps?

[@PaulLembo]

“Too many 5150s” would’ve been a better graphic than the crass “Let Him Die”. This episode was the Science of Snark.

[@ScienceofLoud]

Have you tried being less sensitive about it?

[@PaulLembo]

@@ScienceofLoud You do you, but Eddie was a lot more than an amp. For a guy who didn’t even tune it’s clear you didn’t want to do this video. You are usually quite professional - so this video seems out of place for you. Be well.

[@ScienceofLoud]

Let's disabuse some notions here: No one said Eddie is only the amp - that's not in any way the narrative of this video. This isn't a piece about the Van Halen sound, it's a piece about the need for companies to continue parading a corpse around because the cash cow that was making them money went and inconveniently died, and they can't just let them be dead while money is to be made. I did tune the guitar, I included the footage of me tuning the guitar - the issue was the guitar would not stay in tune for the duration the the 10 minute shoot I was allotted. That's a fact I wished to highlight, as you'd expect a guitar of that calibre wouldn't have that issue. Take that into consideration if you wish to purchase one. If I didn't want to make the video, you wouldn't have seen it. You're confusing unprofessionalism with apathy - my job is to convey my feelings on product to help inform your purchasing decisions, the product is simply another 5150. It does its job well, but it sounds functionally no different from the myriad other products on the market doing the same thing. It's not exciting, people most likely already have something that will give them equivalent results, and it probably doesn't need to exist - but now it does for anyone who wants that feature set. I think the issue here is that EVH fans can't handle his name being mentioned in any context that isn't exclusively gushing, unqualified praise or messianic reverence.

[@PaulLembo]

​@@ScienceofLoud I'm a subscriber to your channel. You do good work. Your episode on mosfet for example, really explaining what makes it different, fantastic. It's amazing how little of that there is vs the endless "gear review" The title of the channel, when you aim for that as a goal, is your best work. "The science" My beef is just that there being a ton of Eddie stuff for sale, and I don't disagree that there is, is no cause to talk about his rotten corpse. It's just in poor taste man. Whatever vendors sell and how good it is or isn't doesn't change that. This isn't about Eddie alone, I'd be slagging you if you talked about the fetid dead body of Randy Rhoads just b/c they reshelled an old OD pedal with a new coat of paint and polka dots. I think we've beaten this horse. Be well.

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

That guy is Dutch... I can hear it.

[@rickard9294]

Too bad the audio from the guitar is clipped.

[@RulgertGhostalker]

better eddie vanhalen than jh ..let who die? at least eddie was behind the main mod his personage is attached to, running on brown out voltage with a Variac. jh had circuits made exclusively for himself, by john mayor, and horded them.

[@jemwand2530]

This was never a sound that I liked, and lo and behold, I still don't like it... Give me a JCM900 any day over this.

[@johnfritzenjr.1240]

Let him die?? Wtf

[@garyt3hsna1l82]

_Feels Bad Man._

[@Smart-Alex]

Maybe a better thumbnail title might have been “let him rest in peace”

[@ScienceofLoud]

Die means the same thing and uses fewer words. We're all big grown-ups here, we can deal with hearing words without having to substitute euphemisms for comfort.

[@SaberToothGary]

annnnd, people keep buying them!

[@topsecret1837]

4:29 sounds more like C# to me

[@ScienceofLoud]

Yeah, it's all tuned down a half step because EVH.

[@artytoney2057]

Eddies legacy will never die and you never can have enough 5150 based products , nobodys forced.to buy anything, its nice to have the option , long.live the king

[@_hide_-lb1gk]

Wish it was a power amp too.

[@ScienceofLoud]

That's what all the 5150 amps are for. Plenty of options in that regard.

[@_hide_-lb1gk]

@@ScienceofLoud but my back 🤣🤣🤣😭 I'm old.

[@paniccleo]

Doesn't victory do a floor unit cracken that does have a power amp?

[@_hide_-lb1gk]

@@paniccleo no idea. I'll Google it though. Thanks! 😁

[@jeffreyrivers1983]

Yuck.

[@ScienceofLoud]

Yuck indeed

[@dasninjastix]

Sounds pretty cool, can't really comment on the need for it to exist, you have any number of modeling options and hell if I believe anyone can truly tell the difference between them. I'm happy to use the 5150 model in the Pod Express. I can see the utility of gigging with it but is it all that different or superior to the TC Electronic one? And if you did go the modeling route, why not just get a unit with dozens of amp options? Seems surprisingly niche for both sound and form factor. But it does sound pretty cool.

[@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy]

My question is why anyone would want a clone/knockoff of something you can still buy brand-new. Fender still makes Stratocasters/Telecasters/Jazzmasters. Fender still makes Deluxe Reverbs. Ibanez still makes Tube Screamers. Mesa still makes Rectifiers. Peavey still makes 6505s. Fender still makes EVH, including 5150s. If you want a "5150 in a box" preamp pedal, James Brown, the guy who made the original 5150, is still making Amp Tweaker. So, to answer your question of if another imitator has a reason to exist, I am going to say no. If something is still being made, if you can still buy it brand-new, always stick with the original, and never settle for anything less. /end Dad rant

[@edwincrain986]

More is more ...lol

[@songmore]

Do NOT buy one of these UAFX pedals. They all have this weird crackling sound that you can't get rid of and their app is the worst I have ever used, if you can actually get it to work in the first place. Absolutely unusable.

[@cunjoz]

fefty

[@ScienceofLoud]

Have you considered that perhaps you are the one who says it weird?

[@krokovay.marcell]

@@ScienceofLoudwe come in peace❤ …no need to feight

[@thegoodguy44]

Really?

[@ScienceofLoud]

Really!

[@MK-oz2lf]

He complains about 5150s when one can easily counter him about all the Marshall Plexi and 800 clones out there in amp or pedal form.... funny how no one complains about that

[@ScienceofLoud]

That's not a counter argument, mate - that's the exact same argument! The only difference between all the 5150 clones and any other over abundant carbon copy product on the market is that the 5150 has a very big name of a now dead artist attached to it. I've been shouting about the guitar industry being mired in the past to its own detriment for years now. I've been the one complaining about it.

[@adamalexanderray]

Sounds like farting into an empty tube of Pringles.

[@conradovitorlopesfernandes5570]

Suddenly every KZbinr is reviewing the same gear... Again...

[@ScienceofLoud]

You see, when a product is new - people are interested in it. So the best time to talk about the new product is while it's still new. It's kind of like how when you see a rack of newspapers in the shop, they are all running the same stories. Because that's what's currently happening and people want to know about it.

[@conradovitorlopesfernandes5570]

@@ScienceofLoud I fully understand that all KZbinrs have the right to earn money from their channels. But I learned to like Science of Loud because, in the past, you came with different subjects. And now you're talking about the same thing... and all the channels are talking about the same thing... Since one already knows the same equipment from the other channels, why should that same one waste time taking care of yours... We all know money talks... but by going this way maybe, just maybe, you'll lose your previous audience because we won't find anything really new to learn here. You are a grown guy and well succeded youtuber, so you don't need any advice. But I needed to said that.

[@ScienceofLoud]

It's just one video, my dude. It was filmed at an event full of youtubers all looking at the same products - I've got plenty of other different videos to make, but the nature of the event means I'll be covering the same stuff other people are covering.

[@AretzJustin]

just use a grunge pedal. duh.

[@matthewearl9824]

This pedal is not that great.

[@andytroy3787]

Ed's influence > your disdain...

[@ScienceofLoud]

You've missed the point I'm afraid

[@defunctuserchannel]

kind of shitty to talk this way about the dead

[@ScienceofLoud]

Might want to watch it again - I'm not being critical of the dead, I'm being critical of companies exploiting dead artists to perpetually profit off them.

[@jamesonpace726]

Sounds awful....

[@ScienceofLoud]

That's what a 5150 sounds like