Do You REALLY Need To Update Your BIOS?

[@JirxOnGames]

Pro tip: You don't actually have to mash the button to enter bios, you can simply keep the button pressed :)

[@RandomTheories]

Jirka Tech Tips 👍

[@phugno]

No ❤️

[@blai5e730]

Where's the fun in that 🙃

[@itzexor]

in the past bios would throw an error and stop when you kept a key pressed while booting, i don't know if computers still do that...but that's why

[@Moltavis]

Why would you just hold it ? Where's the fun in that ? Years of conditioning won't change my mashing Sir !

[@austinverlinden2236]

You can suspend bitlocker instead of disabling. If you disable it will fully decrypt. If you suspend its only inactive for 1 reboot cycle. Just enough to perform bios update before going back into OS.

[@MetalMan1245]

Unless it fails the first time, which in my experience, one restart is never enough to fix stuff like this.

[@JxH]

"...for 1 reboot cycle..." It'd be a real shame if the BIOS update process somehow decided that it needed a 2nd reboot cycle, or perhaps Windows decided to jump in and do so, or whatever. Such paranoia is often the result of years of life-experience.

[@murphy7801]

Just don't use Windows

[@SapphicCode]

@@JxH you can suspend for multiple cycles with an admin command prompt and manage-bde

[@calaifur]

@@murphy7801 some people need windows apps. it's by far more convenient that Linux (speaking from experience)

[@Fearagen]

If you want to reduce the chances of failure during the update, I highly recommend a UPS/Battery Backup. This is recommended in general if you're in an area with a crappy power Plant that constantly black outs, it will extend your computers life and of course, not cause the bios to corrupt while updating during a storm or something.

[@C-Handle]

UPS are pretty cheap too. I

[@iulioh]

(if you have a dual bios MB this step is not necessary)

[@Fearagen]

@@iulioh It'll also prevent windows corruption from blackouts, and power surges potentially frying stuff even with a surge protector. Also if you're updating windows and something happens during the update process, there goes everything if you didn't back anything up and windows could not repair it's self.

[@neondemon5137]

@@Fearagen What 3rd world country do you live in that this is such an issue?

[@Fearagen]

@@neondemon5137 Benton county Tennessee United States.

[@GodmanchesterGoblin]

Not mentioned in the video... If you are overclocking - it's always safest to disable overclocks before re-flashing. I also put RAM back to standard timings while updating. While dual BIOS arrangements help minimise risk, some manufacturers implement dual BIOS quite badly which can make it hard to know which BIOS you are running from and / or which you are updating.

[@writerpatrick]

Despite decades of computer experience, I still get nervous updating the BIOS. If I do it it's usually when the computer is new and it will often make a difference. Although it's best to do it while it's still under warranty.

[@IsmailofeRegime]

Yeah it seems updating the BIOS is the riskiest thing you can do with a computer in terms of "if things go wrong, they can go REALLY wrong."

[@somethinglikethat2176]

@@IsmailofeRegime probably not so much these days. I think most new boards come with one or two ways to recover from an update gone wrong.

[@DPCerberusBlaze]

I did one last year at a client site and I swear the machine took half an hour to boot back up. I was a nervous wreck just watching the rest of my day fade away.

[@Fractal_32]

@@DPCerberusBlaze was it turning on and off to check the memory?

[@szupko]

Helped a guy build his first computer and couldn't help to warn him. A bit of a schadenfreude moment. Everything went fine✌

[@richard-davies]

Considering how many bug fixes there or new features that may get added especially with Ryzen, BIOS updates are very highly recommended. Whether I use Intel or Ryzen I update my BIOS on every release.

[@Masda.X]

is this valid for laptops as well ?

[@MV-zc6ne]

I just updated the bios and it completely broke my PCI startup, if u just from cold boot the gpu get x1 4.0 if u restart if goes x16 4.0 (4080super). Had to bring 6bios old and solve the issue. Not every bios is OK

[@RageQuitSon]

I got a deal on the 5600x, but decided my x370 board was never going to get an update to support it. Got lucky with a new motherboard that had up to date bios (yay shortages keeping stock fresh) and about a month later AMD released the official x370 bios update for 5600x support. Sadness and wasted money.

[@Alirezarz62]

I was thinking about upgrading my MB too AMD released the driver to x370s like 2 days before I pulled the trigger! Guess I stole your luck mate :)

[@MarioPL989]

And here I am, with x370 and 5800X3D

[@aaroneidinger]

I feel for you. I got a B550 board before the 5000 series AMD processors had come out. I got a 3400G to put in it, only to find out it wouldn't work. Simplest solution was to just buy a B450 board for it with plans to upgrade the CPU and MoBo later. I got them just before their availability became scarce. I got to watch as their used prices were going nuts. Fast forward to when I finally got a 5600X. I did so after probably its first price drop which included good availability. Unfortunately, it didn't work in the B550 board because the BIOS was too old. Thankfully, the board supported flashing the BIOS without CPU and RAM so I was eventually able to do that with a couple of hiccups (note for anyone reading: make sure your flash drive is simply formatted FAT32 with no funky boot sectors to assure it'll work). So, now I have two PCs because of other acquisitions along the way.

[@hayden3928]

Its wild that the original 300 and many of the 400 boards are compatible with ALL ryzen chips.

[@hayden3928]

@Aaron Moody Im running a MSI B450i Gaming Plus AC with the latest ryzen 5000 supporting bios while using a r3 1200

[@sakkasper8870]

When I received my first gaming laptop, I was not even aware of what a BIOS update was. It was updated as if it were nothing. Numerous bizarre things occurred on my laptop. I'm delighted it's still functional right now.

[@LifeWulf]

Considering the very first thing HP Support said to me when I was having issues with my PC appearing to go into sleep mode despite sleep being turned off was to update my BIOS, and that fixed it… Yes.

[@Spido68_the_spectator]

My laptop and my grandma 's laptop sleep modes weren't working. Instead was like hard shut down, so taking ages to reboot like turning on. BIOS update fixed both !

[@rQuilln]

Some latest version of BIOS removes the compatability for OLD Processor models especially to some AM4 motherboards. Read the descriptions carefully especially the warnings before upgrading the BIOS to the specific version that the old components still compatible to it.

[@edhuismanster]

This was giving me no end of problems. I like to keep my bios as up-to-date as possible but when I installed the last couple of updates, I kept getting CPU errors. Turns out that while the bios was quite suitable for the latest AM4 CPUs, it wasn't very good for my older Ryzen 7 2700. I went to the MB manufacturers website and for my CPU, they recommended a two year old bios. Since downgrading, I haven't had any more CPU issues.

[@muhls]

@@edhuismanster What version did you go with? I can't find (at least for the x470) what it recommends you to upgrade to.

[@xero6774]

@@edhuismanster They remove support for things like phenoms and athlons, not any ryzens im still on a 1700X with no issues, even with ryzen 5000 ready bios

[@edhuismanster]

@@xero6774 I'm beginning to think there is another issue, my computer still locks up with a CPU error, always within five minutes of rebooting and after that, no issues at all. It's probably not even a hardware issue as the only thing I changed was the power supply (went bigger) and the motherboard, from B350 to B450. If I had another CPU I'd test it but as it only happens once every other week, if at all, I'm really thinking something software. In any case, I'm going to go back to the latest BIOS as there was no difference in stability.

[@edhuismanster]

@@xero6774 I gave an earlier reply, not showing yet but I'm back after updating to the latest BIOS, no issues yet.

[@boboblio4002]

Disabling bitlocker isn't necessary. You can simply suspend it before updating the bios. If you're lucky, the update app will detect bitlocker and suspend it for you.

[@eriii276]

Fun fact because of the Crosshair VIII in the beginning: When pairing with a 5900x/5950x .2 or .3 agesa is the best. Check it yourself - higher voltages. Not really noticeable until you do CO and PBO-limits but it then is a noticeable difference. Like 100-200mhz per core. Edit: so newer bios is not always better. Same on Gigabyte. Don’t know about MSI but since its agesa-bound…

[@BUDA20]

AM4 got a lot of updates for memory compatibility, bug fixes and CPU support, but the memory was the biggest one for me

[@adrianafamilymember6427]

Thinking about getting a r5 2600 and a 3000mhz CL15 in mid September 4 nr

[@Ryzen1]

Yeah man xmp cause alot of issues heck i cant even boot sometimes when its enabled, after updating bios finally stabilized.

[@Yousefyehya995]

i would say yes it is extremely important to update your bios. however, you should wait for a week or two after the bios is released and search a little for reviews on how it behaves just to make sure it wont brick your system.

[@louiesatterwhite3885]

@Retro Game Elements not necessarily.

[@markusTegelane]

also, don't update to beta BIOS unless you have a specific piece of hardware that requires it

[@murdoch9106]

I always update bios, I've done for 20 years, so far not ever been an issue. In some cases I think it actually saved my system. I got an AMD dual core 13 - 14 years ago and it was all kinds of unstable when I first got it, it was a lightly used system, had a crossfire setup with 2 very low end Radeon cards for some reason. I ended up sorting that mess out, but it took weeks before it was stable, and I still dont know for certain what the issue was, but I'm fairly certain it must have been bios related. I just updated bios a few days ago on my current Ryzen system. Speaking of BIOS, my X570S Tomahawk board has a terrible bios, really dont understand it... its a mess to navigate! xD

[@no_nameyouknow]

I never update BIOS, been doing it for over 20 years, so far it's never been an issue. In fact, there was one time when a friend accidentally deleted the BIOS key on a xbox 360 console we were trying to "update" so as to play burned games, and that system became a brick. We ended up able to use the disk system from another broken box to get it working, but yeah, you can fuck your system with a failed BIOS update, and unless you need to, there is no reason to update BIOS. I'm half joking here, just an counterpoint to your comment. It's all true though, I have never updated my BIOS on any PC and I have never had a need to.

[@mikemoore5270]

Wait! You don’t like MSI bios?!? I happen to think it’s simple to nav.

[@markusTegelane]

​@@no_nameyouknowI think that was a DVD drive firmware update, which is not the same thing. I've actually experienced failed DVD writer firmware update on a PC before and it usually isn't that big of a deal other than the fact that the DVD drive doesn't respond anymore (which makes the computer get stuck on the POST screen for several minutes), and in fact I was able to use a Mediatek flash utility in FreeDOS to revive it. But if I couldn't, I would have just been able to replace that DVD drive. Xbox consoles are a weird edge case, because a working DVD drive is required to boot.

[@yourfinalexam]

Just updated my motherboard's BIOS (2016 to 2021). There were some updates I am too lazy to find out about, but was greeted with all new animations in the BIOS menu. Totally worth it.

[@markusTegelane]

That's actually pretty rare in the BIOS world, usually these updates only change things under the hood

[@austinverlinden2236]

I update mine regardless. Plus i needed it to fix that AMD TPM stutter issue. If you are on Windows 11 and have not updated your bios, your might have a bios update that provides support for windows 11.

[@bostash8442]

why use windows 11

[@austinverlinden2236]

@@bostash8442 I like it for its redesign and the improved security. Its still got its weird issues, but rarely do i see them.

[@maybeanonymous6846]

@@austinverlinden2236 why use windows

[@austinverlinden2236]

@@maybeanonymous6846 I have no interest or reason to use Linux or macOS.

[@TheTroller911]

@@maybeanonymous6846 cause most people don't want to open a command prompt to open up chrome

[@Teksers]

One other thing that a BIOS updates helps with is BitRot. If you find or use and old motherboard I would suggest doing it to avoid it. I've had a few cases over the years where the BIOS chip suffered from bitrot and after updating the BIOS the issues went away.

[@fattomandeibu]

Happened to me, not to the BIOS as it doesn't have one, but the hard drive on my old Amiga 1200 when I fired it up for the first time in years. The drive was still fine and working, but yeah, natural degradation of magnetically stored data(which includes flash memory used by your BIOS, USB drives and SSDs, those seem to deteriorate quicker from experience) means you should rewrite a hard disk every 5 years to ensure it doesn't rot.

[@Razor-gx2dq]

@@𱁬 no

[@bostash8442]

what is bitrot

[@Teksers]

@@bostash8442 for a better explanation google it, please. I know of it but can not provide a decent explanation.

[@rubenbohorquez5673]

When some storage mediums aren't written to in a long time (like a BIOS chip, which is pretty much read-only most of the time) they can naturally degrade (bits can get flipped), similarly to how food rots if you just leave it there. The best way to avoid this is to keep writing on it from time to time, even if you just re-write what was previously there, because it slows down that degradation process

[@martinshelton9533]

BIOS update fails are very, very rare. I've been working and building computer since 1994. Done 100's of bios updates and have had no fails on Motherboards Bios updates and only one on a modem (and that was my fault)! I never advice my customers to do it themselves but will do for them if there is a net gain for them!

[@joshuakenyon256]

Recommend updating your BIOS if you're running an AMD chip with fTPM enabled as the recent AGESA build fixes the weird lag stuttering that comes through occasionally

[@Bare_Essence]

If I ignored that latest BIOS for my X370 board, it would still support 64GB (4 slots) of DDR4 memory. Now it will not and I tested 3 different kits. It worked in the previous BIOS, and board will NOT allow rolling back the BIOS.

[@halcyonacoustic7366]

Oof. Maybe support can sign the old bios as a "newer" update for you.

[@Bare_Essence]

Found a way to roll back the BIOS to previous version with a UEFI flash drive; in case anyone needs it kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKvUqJ2MebB0pLc

[@potatochannel1948]

Kudos for Toshiba hard drive for writing this great episode of Techquickie.

[@truefeelke]

I can fully underline that you sometimes need to update the bios for RAM XMP profiles. I had for a customer an Asrock A520M coupled with 3200mhz RAM. However, the board would stubbornly keep the RAM at 2133Mhz despite XMP being enabled. A bios update did fix this!

[@toshiroyamada2443]

I only just starting felling comfortable tinkering with BIOS when I got my new rig. Now I don't have to worry about messing my old PC up if I do something wrong.

[@benjaminwaterman9580]

The first troubleshooting thing to do with an unstable system is to check the temps, then the ram, then the power supply. One should update the bios as a last resort, not a first attempt. Hell, there are drivers to install, too. All generally better for system stability and nearly always safer.

[@orkunbey4331]

Why do you do the analysis if there are reliable Cross Staking platforms such as Cross Staking ?

[@epicfreed4056]

Nice!

[@mehmetkaancrac2332]

I do BIOS updates yearly, and in the most of the times BIOS updates comes with security patches and new CPU support. With my experience, I can comfortably say that a BIOS update fail is very rare unless power cuts off.

[@JSTheAnonymousOne]

I update my BIOS whenever a new version comes out, mostly for security reasons. I've also seen a fair amount of features get added through updates, even from just two versions. You do have to be very careful when doing so, BIOS Flashback may not always work if the process gets cut off and a lot of older boards don't have it... meaning "dead in the water" if things go south. If you're careful and take precautions, then you should be fine for the most part.

[@scarfaceReaper]

@John Smith, Does the b450 have flashback

[@JSTheAnonymousOne]

@@scarfaceReaper The B450 Tomahawk Max I had previously does have flashback

[@scarfaceReaper]

@@JSTheAnonymousOne oh thanks for that and if I BIOS update it will it change the compatibility of the CPU like 3000 to 5000...?

[@JSTheAnonymousOne]

@@scarfaceReaper I've heard cases of some boards having to remove support for 1st gen Ryzen due to running out of space on the BIOS chip. I'm not sure if it has hit 3000 yet, but it's a lot less likely to be affected than earlier generations. I'd check over all the changelogs between the current version and the new one to see if any support may have been removed

[@scarfaceReaper]

@@JSTheAnonymousOne thanks again

[@Davethreshold]

I use a UPS and I also do this: I have a 4 ft. power bar plugged into it for all my low voltage stuff, like external drives, HD Homerun recorders etc. I BYPASSED the power switch on it with Crazy glue. I put a very fine bead around it in the ON position. That way it can not turn the drives, (can wreck them) or OTA recorders off when they are supposed to be on.

[@nascarisawesome5018]

I've always seen great results from updating my bios. My computers have always run better after them. Some people hate it, I'm fine with it 🤷‍♂️.

[@SirPlatypusVI]

I work in IT at a hospital. One person brought their laptop in cause it wasn’t connecting to the docking stations we distribute. After all these driver and firmware updates, nothing seemed to work. But for some reason updating the bios fixed it. Since then I’ve always updated every bios when I deployed new pcs.

[@netsendjoe]

I've updated the BIOS on my board throughout the time that they were providing them, while it is sometimes a difficult process, it has been getting easier and safer. I like the idea that new features and processors are available with these updates as well as fixes and other improvements. The microcode updates make sense too.

[@immasmashyourface]

The newest BIOS 2806 for my B550-f is terrible. I had to revert back to 2403 to get the PBO overclocks with the 200Mhz overclock. My CPU will hit 4.7Ghz with the older BIOS and it's stable. The new BIOS will only hit 4.55.

[@netsendjoe]

​@@immasmashyourface That's interesting. I've always experienced issues anytime I've tried to overclock, so I stick with most of the defaults. I'm on an i7-6700k Skylake @ 4GHZ with 16GB of Corsair DDR4 running dual channel. I'm happy with my system performance over the years with Windows 10. I've had an nVidia GTX 960 (MSI) with 4GB DDR5 Ram. I use MSI AfterBurner to improve it's performance when gaming. But I mostly retro-game with emulators, if at all.

[@immasmashyourface]

@@netsendjoe yeah just using the automatic Boost Clock Override in the Bios. I'm not doing any of the manual OC'ing. Still the difference is way noticeable with the newer BIOS being slower.

[@netsendjoe]

@@immasmashyourface Incredible and disappointing. Hope you have reported this to your motherboard manufacturer.

[@sanguineel]

In an enterprise environment "BIOS" updates also include updates for manageability tools like vPRO.

[@CrossfireBolt]

Next video you guys should make where you deliberately turn off power while updating BIOS and try and troubleshoot it.

[@motoryzen]

I bet Jayztwocents could be convinced to try that.😁

[@hardknockscoc]

I always update my BIOS because fwupd on Linux just lets you know when you have an update. On the GNOME desktop environment I can just hit "restart and install" in the software center and it will flash the BIOS. I've never bricked my motherboard. Just wait a bit to see if the update is bricking anyone's system if you're worried.

[@SB-ev4ip]

5:14 - Suspending bitlocker would be a better, and time-saving option, it will auto-resume after the next reboot.

[@Melchior82]

I update my PC's BIOS whenever they release a new update.. it has improved system stability a lot for me..

[@thebritishindian1]

I update all new BIOS updates. But since my last one, my system sometimes switches to my webcam’s microphone instead of my Audio-Technica USB microphone when I’m using Riverside FM to record podcasts in the Chrome browser. I’m not sure why this would happen

[@bostash8442]

@@thebritishindian1 might have something sussy on your computer

[@yeojylesjin]

@@thebritishindian1 You can disable devices that you don't need under Sound.

[@thebritishindian1]

@@yeojylesjin Thank you, I didn’t know you could do that. 👍

[@Mr-Clark]

I had an old 4th gen Intel K chip that I was able to overclock using a relatively cheap board. I overclocked the cpu from 3.6ghz stock clock to 4.7ghz. It was great. I thoroughly enjoyed it for about 3 years. I saw a bios update for the board and I decided to update it. After doing the update my cpu started to top out at 3.6ghz. I did some troubleshooting and no luck. I looked at advanced settings and everything looks good. But still no overclock. After about 3 days of digging I found something. I read a blurb by the motherboard manufacturer saying that my motherboard did not support overclocking. I was like WTF? I wasn't alone. Several people had complained. I was livid. Manufacturer just folded their arms across their chest and said, "Nope, no overclocking support. Want to OC, buy their more expensive boards". I don't buy the BS. I never bought a Gigabyte motherboard ever again.

[@andmicbro1]

I've updated many a BIOS and haven't had a problem yet. I work in IT and the first thing I do with a new machine is run Windows updates, then run OEM updates, including BIOS updates. After the machine runs smooth! I think it's much less of a risk than it used to be. Which yes, your always want to make sure your laptop is plugged in for a BIOS update. And take the necessary precautions for a desktop. But do things right and I'd say the risk is minimal. And if you're having hardware issues a lot of the time it can help fix random issues you might have. At the very least I've never gotten worse performance after an update. Which ymmv. I've heard of people having issues. But if you're still under warranty that should hopefully give you the peace of mind in the first year of ownership to update as needed. Seems like the number of BIOS updates drops off after that first year anyway.

[@fohhee]

The latest X570 bios fix the fTPM issue causes random stuttering, so yes, you should check the latest bios news from time to time, and than decide to update or not

[@TheGameBench]

I have a UPS just for doing BIOS updates. It alleviates a lot of stress having a UPS in case of a power outage or a brown out. Not that they can't fail for other reasons. Usually I don't bother updating the BIOS unless there's a specific fix, but sometimes I update a system before selling it so the buyer doesn't have to worry about it.

[@interstellartravel]

In some cases yes, I had huge issues running emulators on my motherboards old bios, after an update my fps improved from 28-32 to locked 75+ on BOTW. Android emulator performance also improved by a bit. General gaming performance on windows programs did not chage at all though. There was also a huge lag on bios mouse performance that went away after the update.

[@michealfunickrr3717]

You mean TOTK is 60 emulated while BOTW is 75 or more. Uh why?

[@QualityDoggo]

Flashback, Dual-BIOS, and Swappable-BIOS are the best. Also ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have the Bitlocker recovery key AND a (separate) known working backup. Too many people bring in systems for data recovery where the drive is the only part working. If your system fails and you wanna recover the drive we will need the key or you will never get the data back :(

[@Starfals]

Considering how often my friends brick their computers after an update... nope. I won't do it. Heck, the last the I updated my bios was 2010. YES, that long ago!!

[@MrWogle1]

I’ve actually seen some instances where a very old system had SecureBoot enabled, but the certificate was expired and newer OS versions wouldn’t boot on it.

[@OneTwoMark]

I remember being told about XMP, it caused me to crash on certain games so I wrote it off. But not long ago I realised my BIOS firmware was older than the oldest firmware you can download off their site. So yeah, makes me wonder if XMP wouldn't crash now. Edit: - ALSO, two sets of my RAM have died with no clear cause, luckily Corsair replaced em both (Great customer service) but now i'm also wondering if bios update will avoid them randomly dying.

[@Xirpzy]

Never enabled xmp and never had any issue or felt standard ram speeds are not enough. Even most demanding games dont need the extra ram speed.

[@fgfh10004]

@@Xirpzy lmfao

[@yhz2K]

Always make sure that you have latest bios installed before enabling XMP profile for RAM

[@DarkNia64]

My 2600X paired with a Strix B450-F couldn't handle the XMP profile of 3200CL14 RAM. Had to drop it to 2933MHz to avoid BSOD

[@About67Crabs]

using a 12th gen intel cpu, updating my bios fixed all instability issues i ws having such as unresponsive system, unresponsive mouse, nothing load.....after i updated everything was working perfect....and then i started having some issues on some games ( stutter ) and went for windows 11 to fix those issues all in all...if you have a 12th gen intel cpu, update your bios and hop on windows 11 if you have any irregularities in your system

[@BaBaNaNaBa]

it's not about ignoring every bios update. it's about ignoring the bad ones

[@Darksjeik]

I had a "nice" experience yesterday. I built a new rig, installed W11, validated it digitally, then found out my BIOS was F3 where F9 was now available so I flashed the BIOS only to find out W11 now saw my PC as having new hardware. Not a biggie you'd think since you can often just revalidate using the same licence, however in this instance, not only did it refuse to revalidate, it bugged out thinking my copy of W11 wasn't a genuine copy. Long story short, I had to reinstall W11 fresh and purchase a NEW license!! Turns out that is a known bug in W11 that has been around for over a year and hasn't been fixed yet. So my tip: If your mobo supports flashing the bios without a windows install, like Gigabytes " qflash", DO THAT FIRST before you install W11.

[@Apurbo_]

Also happened to a friend of mine with a Gigabyte mobo, z690

[@the_danksmith134]

I did it once on my PC cause it wouldnt accept the new RAM even though its within spec. Worked like a charm

[@joeymoey1000]

Yeah same...I made a new built couple of months ago and my PC keept on crashing on me. Had to tune it manually so it wouldn't crash. Notice I was on the earliest Bios version and some of the newer version had support for more RAM models. Updated and it completely solved the crashing issues lol

[@Fearagen]

I did on mine as my new ASUS tuf gaming board wouldn't work with a Ryzen 7 8 -core until I updated the BIOS.

[@sijedevos2376]

My x470 died so I bought a b550 as a replacement and got a white blinking line for 1 minute or so before it booted. Usually a sign of a bad drive but check my ssd’s and all are fine. Decided to update bios and that fixed the issue.

[@VoodooV1]

work computers: definitely, those bios updates fix security holes. personal computer: not as often

[@kusayfarhan9943]

Those security fixes usually reduce performance so on a personal gaming PC, don't bother.

[@tylerkulchinsky2167]

Broke my 2700x and upgraded to a 3900x. But my X470 board needed a BIOS update to run the 3000-Series CPUs. I didn't have a working CPU anymore so I couldn't get into the BIOS to update. Had to borrow a 1600x from a friend (states away, thanks UPS) just to update and complete my upgrade.

[@Birch_ON]

Funny enough, I see this video right as my computer was having issues posting because my BIOS was outdated.

[@manzanero96]

I just did a pc with an early BIOS (Intel 12 gen) and 3070Ti. Valorant was crashing 24/7 with a BIOS update It solved. I Guess It was power related. I still dont know if GPU or CPU

[@Fizz-Pop]

Ask yourself these 3 questions: 1: Do I need to update the BIOS? 2: Does it have dual BIOS chips? 3: Can you afford to replace the motherboard if it gets bricked? If you can say yes to two of those, then go for it.

[@ObscenePizza]

Point 2 becomes less relevant with features like FlashBack/Q-Flash (bios update from USB when turned off).

[@markusTegelane]

​@@ObscenePizzaalso, some systems might have a specific key combo you can press to launch BIOS recovery even if the flashing fails (I think newer Dell computers support that)

[@KanadGodse]

Everybody talks about BIOS upgrades. What about downgrades when the upgrade didn't work?

[@dinobot_maximize]

i update it for fun. and im not scared of bricking it because msi bios flashback button lol motherboards without that scare me

[@joeymoey1000]

Hol Up... I have that feature as well your saying if I ever brick my motherboard that Flashback would still work? lol

[@yeojylesjin]

@@joeymoey1000 Just make sure the USB port at the back marked for Flashback is working (can connect and recognise devices) before you go bricking motherboards. It should be able to save it

[@newguy69]

Funny thing motherboard makers don't recommend update unless necessary. But laptops/prebuilts often update bios via Windows Update automatically like it's a daily newspaper issue.

[@android-user]

That is true, because there is a difference between a mobo bios and a laptop bios.

[@newguy69]

@@android-user feel free to explain, the difference doesn't seem that obvious

[@android-user]

​@@newguy69 okay :) "like it's a daily newspaper issue" that is because there are more failsafes: You need to charge the battery (like up to 50%) -> if you lose ac-power, the battery will kick in immediatly (not possible on a desktop, the powersupply is not prepared fo that, so there is still a risk). Then there are two partitions (like on some motherboards -> dual bios). You flash the one and if the start fails, it will start from the working one. I can´t tell you if these laptops use a "working factory bios" partition or if they check the bios after the update and copy it to the second partition. Lenovo laptops offer "self healing" and "bios flashback" so it should be fine to update the bios on the fly

[@android-user]

@@newguy69 also the manufacturer knows the basic hardware config like cpu, sometimes storage, integrated devices (soldered gpus like nvidia 960M), so they only have to test a few configurations. On the other hand a mobo bios on desktop has to work with... like everything.

[@ac.creations]

I like to pull the power plug around 50% of a bios update. It makes it so much faster!

[@NotEvents]

🤣

[@EricGonzalo]

Literally after I updated my BIOS early this morning and also set my XMP profile too. Great timing and a good reminder, haha.

[@MiniRockerz4ever]

16 years without BIOS update and counting

[@garchamp9844]

My fancy RAM would not run overclocked at all until ASRock released an update. Going forward I for one will keep my BIOS updated.

[@NoLongo]

I’m in the train of not updating unless there’s a problem to fix. My cpu performance would probably cut 10% by the time I get all the security patches. I had a laptop where updating the bios just got rid of 0rpm mode and introduced other bugs. Maybe LTT can do a video on that. How big of a performance difference is an original bios vs all the bios security updates on different generations of CPUs.

[@nagranoth_]

So, really only when you've got a brand new system that still gets updates, or if you're about to upgrade. Except for possibly vulnerability updates.

[@NinjAsylum]

If you have a CPU made in the last 5 years. As of 'right now'. Yes. You absolutely should be using the latest available 'Stable' Bios.

[@HULKHOGAN1]

I’ve heard it’s one of the riskier updates you can do. If my 10 years of enthusiast level PC ownership, I’ve had 3 motherboards and only performed BIOS updates twice. I use my system for photoshop and gaming so I never noticed any difference whatsoever. It’s just one of those things you tend to do with a new system…

[@antdog0421]

I didn’t even know I had to update mine it’s been 3-4 years 💀

[@Kirbael]

My MSI B660M came with v1.0 BIOS and I was having RAM stability issues and XMP wasn't running at full speed on default. Checked the Motherboard support page and there's been RAM compatibility updates a few months ago. Updated to v1.91 and the process was quick and simple. XMP is working like a charm.

[@RyukoMeows]

You should 100% update. There are tons of undocumented changes in each patch, some of which could drastically improve performance.

[@shreyaskashyap4952]

My brother's Lenovo Laptop was not connecting to Wifi or LAN. He tried his best to get it solved. Even Lenovo gave him a quotation for replacement of Wifi adapters. I downloaded the latest Bios to pendrive and updated the BIOS. Now WiFi and LAN adapters are working. Updating Bios will fix many Hardware and Driver related issues..

[@jtnachos16]

This is a pretty simple question. Best rephrased as: "Am I having a notable problem that might conceivably be fixed by a bios update?" If the answer to that is NO, then don't do a bios update. Don't try to fix what isn't broken.

[@bobingabout]

Yeah, my previous PC was AM2. I got a Phenom 2 or whatever it was that was an AM3 CPU. I managed to get it to work in that AM2 motherboard with a BIOS update, but, only at 500MHz because it had an unlocked multiplier, and even the update didn't have an option for the right multiplier. I was able to send it back and get an Athlon 2, that wasn't as good as the Phenom, but better than the old CPU, which was also AM3, and the BIOS update was essential to make that work.

[@billy65bob]

I have updated my BIOS a few times, I forget why, but I think I was having weird issues with random freezes and shutdowns and performance hic ups. Either way, something really annoying was wrong, and the update corrected it. It also changed the topology, so the cores were listed as 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 instead of 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4, and another reverted it. (that is a 4C8T topology) Only tip is: don't be the first to do the update; let others beta test it first.

[@BUDA20]

also some BIOS can restore factory defaults when the BIOS is updated, so you will need to configure everything again, from XMP, to boot order, FANs, etc

[@folie-n3t]

After this video I updated my BIOS and found out that I wasn't using XMP profile and was leaving a lot of performance on the table. Thanks for the video!

[@ShaunRuigrok]

Dell went through a period where their Latitude E7000-series business ultrabooks had a BIOS bug that would cause the BMS to continue charging a laptop battery when it was at 100%, which was especially bad for laptops that spend much of their life docked at a desk in a corporate office environment. A BIOS update fixed this, but too bad if your battery has already swollen and become a spicy pillow 😅

[@justwouter]

Didn't know old Toshiba hard drives could write video scripts, time to unlock the hard drive closet!

[@MTLoveridge]

If you're a business however, it's kinda vital you update the BIOS as that can improve security as well.

[@Redmanticore]

your company secrets will be stolen by something, no matter what kind of security you get, guaranteed. there is nothing even the best and wealthiest businesses in the world can do.

[@umbranocturna6342]

i bought my first PC in 2012 and used it around 4 years without updating the Bios. At the end i had almost daily blue screens along with other issues. Updating the bios resolved the bluescreens completely. Just do your bios updates once a year....

[@hananas2]

Really weird but just last week a BIOS update completely fixed my girlfriend's laptop's issues. She was having constant freezing issues, battery life even with a brand new battery sucked and it was just generally really slow and unresponsive. One BIOS update later and boom! Battery lasts long again, no more freezing, generally super snappy again, good as new! Even though it's a 6 year old HP pavilion.

[@Arutemysu]

On 2 laptops, Alienware Area-51m R1 & Asus ROG Strix G15 G513. The latest BIOS update made them both worse than before. The G513 is in constant overclock + overvolt when you boot the laptop while plugged in, and undervolted and baseclock when booted on battery. The A-51m lowered the GPU wattage and max temperature, not to mention if you reached max temperature it would thermal throttle heavily till you reboot the system.

[@IOUaUsername]

Of all times in history, now is the most important time to update your BIOS. Meltdown exploit works on pretty much any computer running BIOS released before 2022. A lot of the time the updates around this point in time also add TPM 2.0 support, without which the Windows 11 upgrade can't run. You can whinge all you want about not liking new Windows versions, but you'll have to upgrade eventually so you might as well bite the bullet (after the initial 6 months of unreliability following a new release).

[@4carhur1more]

I recently built my first pc and I remember updating the bios was the only way the computer would talk to all the different components. Otherwise, I just got a black screen with a lone non blinking underscore cursor. Fortunately, my brother had an amd cpu that was compatible with the older bios so we could actually boot it up to run the bios update.

[@sphbecker]

You don’t need to update the BIOS for the latest microcode. The OS also applies microcode during boot, there BIOS just does it earlier in the boot process.

[@6DAMMK9]

If you're keen on using 3rd party modded BIOS (for custom microcodes and risky voltage control and Xeon V3 multicore boost locking), do not forget a CH341A and heat gun for backup. Usually this kind of operation is "no need unless you want it".

[@HenriqueTavares]

4:15 OMG GPU Firmware Update, didn't think about it, now I will have to look at it and how to do it!

[@D.Enniss]

Months ago when I updated to Windows 11 my 3900X performed worse, lower boost and clocks etc. After BIOS updated it was all good again

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

I only updated the BIOS on my Asus Maximus Extreme, cause it has 2 BIOS chips, so if I mess it, I can switch to the other one. Other than this case, I only update when I feel it's critically necessary and during the warranty period.

[@pixels_per_inch]

I remember my i7 9700 gave a bluescreen immediately when booting into the windows installation drive but was fine in the BIOS. Tried recreating the boot media several times before I found out the BIOS needed an update due to a new CPU revision. Later on, another BIOS update bumped up the all core boost to 4.5 Ghz (instead of 4.4). Never had an update fail but even if it does, it's not really a big deal since most boards nowadays have some sort of recovery option (even on budget ones).

[@chunito]

Well, I'm actually scared to update bios in our area because even if u have a UPS you will need another UPS for your UPS because when it suddenly cut off it will turn on in less than 1 sec and then turn off again. That's how fucked up our electricity is. The cooperative that runs our power is absolutely corrupt to its core.

[@colt5189]

I always update the BIOS if there is a new version. Always cross my fingers though. And make sure your computer has battery backup power so a power outage in the middle of a BIOS update doesn't wreck your motherboard.

[@vmystikilv]

X370 1700x user. Did the bios update and went to a 5700X for just $226 bucks. Was worth the risk and running great!

[@Gabu_Dono]

My system is a victim of the AMD b550/x570 usb persistent disconnect problem. Bios update was supposed to fix it, and it did alleviate the issue slightly, but that newest version made it worse.

[@Brandjum]

Did a BIOS update on a msi Z490 exactly like the instructions with m-flash. And it completed but when starting it just opened the Windows Recovery screen with no option to start windows... I was able to access the BIOS and it showed the new version though i installed the oldest version i could find (which is still newer than the one I had) and that also "worked", but I still couldn't start windows. Luckily after some testing, I moved the other SSD with Windows on it (i have 2) above the one I was using before in the boot priority. and now it starts again, even though the old SSD is still the one that is run. I don't get it, but I'm glad it works again. Found nothing like this online, so if anyone has this issue aswell, that is a potential fix.

[@kE3kZ]

Resizable Bar now enabled. Jesus how have I not heard of this. THANKS!

[@LVIS-a]

Upgrading to Windows 11, my PC became very sluggish and seemingly random errors popped up left and right. A BIOS update fixed all of that and my PC runs nice and smooth once again.

[@calenlaughlin3132]

Dell G7 7590. BIOS update removed voltage change options. You're just locked out. It's a laptop that can really benefit from undervolting because of poor cooling. I've tried to revert to an older version that supposedly still supports undervolting, but the system automatically reverted to a newer version before I could change anything. I haven't exhausted my options, but I have exhausted my willingness to mess around for the time being.

[@Wraithdagger]

I've been in computers for 17 years. I've only updated a BIOS 2 times - once for a CPU upgrade (2006); another time because the stock BIOS was unstable and would randomly fail to POST (2008). I get its become more robust over the years, but it's 5 minutes of anxiety I'd rather avoid.

[@Ephoros]

I have a gigabyte B660M board, and until the last BIOS update, RGB on my be quiet silent loop 2 kept glowing random color, after a shutdown. Might be a first world problem, but damn those f'ers are bright! Now all sorted.

[@SirRanderson]

Had to update the bios like a month ago... amd ftpm stutter finally got fixed... only took 6 months or so...