Doctor Explains What You're Missing [Thyroid Testing] - 2024

People with thyroid symptoms are often overlooked by average doctors, or told that their thyroid symptoms are just in their head. This is unacceptable, and often caused by a doctor not ordering a full thyroid panel. The will order one or 2 tests and then proclaim the thyroid normal. This can miss several important things. That's why you need to ask for a full thyroid panel and be able to say why you want each of the tests.
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[@scottjones6624]

Terrific. I am slowly educating my doc about this and he is listening (maybe cuz I am a doc). I have found that I do not convert T4 to T3 with an elevated revT3 and have had symptom relief with compounded slow release T3 twice a day.

[@ByGonegirl]

Well that helps. I get treated like a moron. And I am nice. I guess I just look stupid.

[@eddieteabagify]

This happemed to my mother. I had to argue for six months to get fhe free T4 and T3. I proved that she wasnt converting. All the symptoms and 3 endocrinologists refused.

[@freedomforever1962]

​@@ByGonegirl No...... Dr's make one feel that way to elevate their lack of confidence or no knowledge abt it! Been there....

[@nebulous962]

that's very interesting. i wonder why that is.

[@mct4423]

Get a good lab do your own

[@User31084]

My wifes doctor wanted to kill her thyroid with radioactive iodine and enslave her to lifelong thyroid drug replacement. I fired her doctor. We went keto, then Carnivore. Her thyroid is fine, now. Thank you, Lord!

[@karenreaves3650]

Lugols solution is recommended for all of us because of the lack of iodine in our soil every cell in our body needs it 4-6 drops.

[@User31084]

@@karenreaves3650 Thanks for the recommendation.

[@harryharry3193]

amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@user-qv9gm4bt4d]

Since 2019 I have been dealing with my thyroidectomy. It is so hard to get doctors to hear me when I say I need a full test panel. They wouldn't do it! I now go to Labcorp and order my own testing with all the things you talked about in this spot on amazing video. I hand it to my doctor and have a better experience getting my Synthroid levels right.I went on carnivore last year and lost my synthroid weight gain, 58 pounds released. I feel so good and feel like a new person. Thank you Dr. Berry!!! You helped to save my thyroidectomy body and made my Soul happy! My Hashimotos is so much better too. Yay!!

[@sharonfollis3500]

I asked my doctor 25 years ago to check my thyroid. She reluctantly did it, almost with an eye roll. She was not happy when it showed that I was hypothyroid. Then, when I told her I didn't want to take synthroid, but armour instead, she told me to find a new doctor 😂 which I did and she was the best doc I ever had until she retired many years later.

[@jillmorris2521]

Doctors after they finished their training can be very rigid and pigheaded. You do not like to believe there is anything new to discover that is the biggest drawback to Doctors.

[@monicacollins8289]

Not every doctor was at the top of their class.

[@jillmorris2521]

@@monicacollins8289 and The sad truth is there is not enough human beings on the Earth who are clever enough to become Doctors. It’s a very very technical subject on a very fragile object.

[@BetterWayLiving]

I literally argued with the PA to get a complete thyroid panel. She said "all you need is TSH." She eventually agreed to order it but said "but I refuse to interpret it for you." Let's just say that's no longer my office.

[@wiz4020]

Everytime I get blood work done, I get a copy of the test results! I like see the test results for myself and do my own research!

[@theresagreen809]

I can’t understand why Drs refuse certain tests. It’s not as if they are paying for them.

[@jhosk]

Many work for a company that provide lab services. I know of one company that has there own hospitals, nursing homes, home health, lab, X-ray, pharmacy and own insurance. Unfortunately they employ 3/4 of the doctors in my area here in Ohio. There is a reason I fly back to Texas every three months to see my doctor, he loves his labs, he only does full panel labs.

[@Hertz2laugh]

Remember, you can always tell the doctor to make a note in your permanent medical record that they are refusing to order tests you are requesting. This will very likely... *_motivate_* them to change their mind and order the tests for you. If they are still refusing, you can order official LabCorp tests for yourself: OWN YOUR LABS |)()T C () |V|

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

Never see a doctor refuse to provide a test. Generally they over test things that are not required

[@Marta-th2uq]

Because the provider doesn’t know how to interpret the test results and don’t know how to treat.

[@marywiggins7411]

Insurance won't pay for full panel

[@lms6137]

I begged my PCP to please order a T3/RT3 along with the TSH and T4 she had ordered. She told me she was ordering everything I needed. Decided to take matters into my own hands and ordered them myself. Yep, T3 all out of whack. Then found a PA that would treat me properly for hypothyroidism . Come to find out I had Hashimoto’s. So for YEARS I felt like crap. Don’t give up, there are medical professionals out there that totally get it.

[@whiskybrush3219]

How do you order them yourself?

[@lms6137]

@@whiskybrush3219 in most States you can order online without a doctor’s order. I believe I used Quest ( it’s been a good 7 years ago). Do an online search for bloodwork without a doctor’s order and it will pull up several sites.

[@allthingsfinished3858]

Sounds familiar. My wife was told 30 years ago when her daughter was born she had whacky thyroid hormones. No help or advice was offered. 20 odd years later, end-stage Hashimoto's and congestive heart failure! Four days of carnivore and her heart settled right down; no more PVCs. Has to remain very strict, however.

[@lms6137]

@@whiskybrush3219 thought I replied to this earlier 🤷🏼‍♀️ Do an internet search for “lab work without a doctor’s order”. Most US States allow you to order online without a doctor’s order. I believe I used Quest labs.

[@lms6137]

@@allthingsfinished3858 and if your T4 and TSH are within normal limits they tell you “your thyroid is fine.” I remember how debilitating the fatigue was.

[@christinewilde110]

My doctor treats me as if I'm stupid.....after 6 years of telling my specialist every 6 months that I was falling asleep all the time and had to stop driving, she decided to send me to a surgeon who looked at my parathyroid! One gla d was swollen and another had detached itself. I woke up the morning after the operation and I felt marvelous! It was so quick!

[@loriirons9503]

I had my tumor removed at the Norman Parathyroid Clinic in Tampa FL in 2015. I went to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester MN first and it was a 4 day waste of time. I sent all my lab results to Tampa and was on a plane 35 days later for a 45 min procedure. Complete healing and no high Calcium test score anymore! They do more of this surgery than Cleveland Clinic, and Mayo combined!

[@JohannesJunkJournalLife]

All of mine are normal and yet I have Thyroiditis and my half Thyroid continues to grow. No meds. I’m told hashimotos but just watch it …

[@basketballfan5763]

@@JohannesJunkJournalLife what the f does just watch it mean? I would not listen to that bullcrap... That means wait until you're really sick...

[@GunClingingPalin]

Not only might you save your own life by schooling a doctor who is not aware of what a full thyroid panel can show us, but you may very well save potentially thousands of others lives because that doctor may learn what and why these panels are necessary. God bless you Ken.

[@ameliaashton-brooke2454]

I was diagnosed with under active thyroid over 25 years ago and after a year and on 150mg levothyroxine was declared "stable". I felt no different and still had all my symptoms. My doctor told me " this is as good as it gets"! Fast forward 25 years and Internet and a thyroid Facebook group I persuaded my doctor to refer me to an endocrinologist who put me on 15mcg of T3 a year ago. Still no improvement in symptoms but my bloods are within normal range. I'm 65 now so dealing with the effects of aging as well. I feel my life was stolen by lack of interest in helping thyroid patients like me. 😢

[@Marta-th2uq]

TSH Free T4 Free T3 Reverse T3 TPO Antibodies TgAb Antibodies “Normal” is not necessarily Optimal

[@iriskoomi2857]

I started out subclinical. It got so bad I was losing myself as the days went by. Got a 2nd opinion, found out I was severely anemic, which happened after a miscarriage that I should have gone to the er for and didn't know better. My advice, is when they test you and something ends up being off, ask them to test certain nutrients. I was on 2 iron pills a day for a couple months. Check your iron, iodine, b12. Make sure your levels are towards the middle of the scale, not the low end.

[@teret6719]

I wasted so much time and money trying to find a doctor who would treat my hypothyroidism without luck, until a life coach from Dr William Davis' group on FB told me about Elevate MD. They are in Ohio but do video consults. They order tests from LabCorp, then treat me accordingly. They don't accept insurance, but it is well worth the money. They also treat me with natural bioidentical hormone replacement therapy, which is a life changing, marriage saving miracle.

[@debbieredfern2267]

Here in the Uk we are now not allowed to know the number of TPO antibodies only that we are positive or negative. Last time i knew my numbers in January 22 they had fallen to 95 from over 600 thanks in large part to taking LDN. Fast foward to June 24 and they are back up to 160. I had to have a private test to find this. I now need to stop and restart the LDN to get back on track . Had i know this much earlier i could have treated the problem much sooner. As it is I have to pay for the LDN privately. Also the private test did Anti Thyroglobulin which has always been denied when asked for. Normal is

[@annettewebster4113]

@@debbieredfern2267my compounding pharmacist said the main cause for autoimmune antibodies is wheat/gluten.

[@Karen_Busch]

I've asked so many doctors for a full thyroid panel. They look at me with a blank stare. 😢 Last time I listed them all and he only ordered T3 and TSH. Like am I speaking Japanese? 😢 I'm the one paying for it... what does it hurt them to order the darn test? Also, I've asked every Dr I've ever seen for a referral to a specialist and every time am told the specialist wouldn't take me due to my TSH being normal. Frustrating beyond belief.

[@VeldaE12]

Easy to say, “find a new Dr”, but, as a Medicare patient (with a PPO supplement), it’s very difficult to find a new Dr accepting patients! Main options are large corporate medical groups, where Drs are required to follow the “party line”.

[@bethpadilla8724]

That's a total bs when doctors try to gas light you. I asked my doctor if she can add insulin level test since I'm pre diabetic but she told me that they only order this test for patients with diabetes.

[@VeldaE12]

@@bethpadilla8724 exactly! I asked my Dr when, with full blown hypothyroidism symptoms, he did not order antibody tests- he said “I don’t believe in that stuff “!!! I was furious- I had to quote standards of care last fall to get referral to an endocrinologist- who tested antibodies and found Hashimotos! But even after that- my primary Dr says it doesn’t exist because my other numbers were “normal”!

[@basketballfan5763]

My issue totally...... I literally rarely go to my doctor and if I want a proper console to have to pay for it out of pocket.. Ireland here... The corporates have taken over here now

[@basketballfan5763]

My situation exactly here in Ireland where the corporates have now taken over medical practices..

[@cheffatgrams]

This is the info I love to see doctors help us with, great info Doc!!

[@mjones1122]

Lot of providers won't do these tests due to standard of care protocols.

[@debrasfrugallife3703]

My daughter was 10 years old when she was diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease. She 14 now and keto diet has helped her so much . Can't thank you Dr.Berry enough for helping us and so many more find better way to living again ❤

[@ChristCenteredKeto-JulieLenart]

Great video Doc! So helpful! My nurse practitioner I see at endocrinology has only ordered TSH the last couple years, even though I have Graves. She told me TSH is the "canary in the coal mine" when I asked why not the other thyroid labs. I now have a primary care NP who listens when I ask for a full panel. Thanks for the share on the research!

[@susanferguson4271]

That is so crazy..Graves disease and at endocrinologist office no less, only a TSH...glad you have someone now doing the right thing...should also test TSI level

[@nancycamaquin6648]

Thank you for explaining this valuable test. Unfortunately, years ago I did not understand what the symptoms were nor what test to ask for at the doctor. Because the physician I had did not do the correct tests, my thyroid had nodules that were obstructing my esophagus, and I am a breast cancer survivor also. I decided to have my thyroid removed and am now on Synthroid for the rest of my life. If I had known about diet choices, things could have been different and not had to lose my thyroid nor had breast cancer. Thank you for all you hard work on these videos. I now see a functional physician who has helped me significantly.

[@iss8504]

There is a greater risk of thyroid cancer if you had breast cancer and vice versa so just as well you removed your thyroid, likely it was cancerous. I had follicular thyroid cancer. Apparently it's linked to low iodine. Breast tissue has iodine receptors too, second only to the thyroid. So make sure you take elemental iodine too.

[@Notwoke811]

I have been on Desiccated meds for 20 years with nodules... My last PA refused to order Reverse T3... told me it was only ordered for "children with autoimmune issues"..... 5 years prior I saw an Endocrinologist (at UC DAVIS) I brought in my scans of nodules and history of thyroid disease and he refused to order antibody test, would only do a TSH and Total T3/4 (not Free) and only would prescribe Synthroid instead of what I was on for 20 years saying "I am not a pig"..... these drs should lose their licenses!!!! Now if they refuse I walk out out and don't go back 🤬

[@teresaoftheandes6279]

That is just disgusting!

[@basketballfan5763]

Yes walk out.....demand your rights

[@scotthamilton6564]

I’m a women’s health NP and midwife. I’m constantly checking all these levels because the primary doctors don’t. I constantly pick up elevated antibodies. However, when I refer to endocrinologists they don’t follow through and treat properly.

[@ImperfectCarnivoreUK]

My mum lost her thyroid in her mid forties. I believe it was preventable. I am in my late forties and looking after my hormones on a carnivore diet. Thanks Dr Berry.

[@iss8504]

Make sure you take iodine! I was on a low salt diet for years, and ate farmed fish ie zero iodine. Ended up with thyroid cancer at 46. Positive it was caused by lack of iodine.

[@ImperfectCarnivoreUK]

@@iss8504 I am taking Lugols

[@ImperfectCarnivoreUK]

@@iss8504 I take iodine x

[@Fair-to-Middling]

I went to an endocrinologist years ago for most of the symptoms you mentioned. She only did the basic panel and said I was fine, no issues. Well, years later, I still have those symptoms. I did just find a functional doctor that I am seeing next week. She has already told me that a full panel is part of getting to the root of what's wrong.

[@d.haskins3840]

It took at least 10 yrs for me because I was a smidgen over "limit" until it completely broke! But I had mild symptoms for years. If TSH is over 3 get a second opinion asap.

[@dukesanddaughters]

Help me understand the TSH please? Mine is slowly going down from being 1 year carnivore. Idk what it was before 2/24 but in 2/24 it was 3.80 and in 5/24 it was 3.70 I just had an iron infusion so I'm hoping it will help improve everything overall at my next draw.

[@SciFiJunky2099]

My situation is different. I have never had any thyroid related symptoms, but in 2010, I was put on synthroid after returning from deployment when the Army doctor said I had hypothyroidism. No other details have ever been given to me.

[@esthersmith3341]

Might want to have that checked. My mother was done the same way and the meds made her feel terrible. Next doctor that ran a full panel took her off synthroid. She had already stopped it and test was still good.

[@RebekahBavryCPHC]

If only I could get my PCP to watch this...maybe then he wouldn't be close to malpractice.

[@AZJen480]

If only I could get my mom's endocrinologist to watch this. He's being fired at the next appointment. I've asked the NP at the PCP office to take over. For the life of me, I can't figure out why this seems so complicated for doctors.

[@teret6719]

@@AZJen480 I saw an endocrinologist once. He was chubby and looked at me like I had 2 heads when I asked for these tests. He said my TSH was fine and so was I. I didn't go back.

[@patriciaboatman8423]

Most endocrinologists are Idiots ​@@teret6719

[@nicolebaxter5141]

Dr. Berry I wish that you were my doctor! I had an amazing doctor who listened to me and my symptoms the first time I went in with them and he found my hypothyroidism. He worked with me and was so amazing. He started me out on levothyroxine and it made me feel out of it. So I did my own research and saw ndt was the better option so I told him I wanted to try it and he was all for it. He was so great. Unfortunately he retired and now I can’t find a doctor who will listen. It’s so frustrating when I went from an amazing doctor to sub par! Thanks for the info and would it be ok to maybe make a video to help us who suffer with thyroid problems how to read our own labs? That would be amazing!

[@BeeBubbaBella]

This is perfect timing. I was planning to ask today in the tribe about testing, even thought I've been watching your videos for 6 years 😂. My Dr. refused to do the thyroid testing, so I'll pay for it myself and show him the results and have him explain why he wouldn't order them.

[@PennySue]

Show him this video. 😊

[@BeeBubbaBella]

@PennySue my husband has sent him a lot of stuff, especially when he tried to tell him he needs a statin 🙄. I'll be sending our Dr. the links to articles, or printing them out for my annual in August.

[@coreyviolin]

There is actually a third antibody test that is important to order - TSI (thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins). This is the antibody which triggers the TSH receptors on the thyroid, causing autoimmune hyperthyroidism (I tested positive for these and was diagnosed with Graves'). I also had TPO antibodies, which are more often associated with Hashi's but can be present in Graves' patients. Otherwise, a great video!

[@basketballfan5763]

He did mention there were more in-depth conditions like Graves that I was going to leave a comment about to please do an extra video on these conditions because I definitely think that I may have something not Graves not hashimoto's although I'm concerned about Hashimoto's.... Definitely something autoimmune related is going on with my thyroid for many years and I've got some really weird conditions that doctors can't get to the bottom of.....like why l healthy slim age 45 suddenly lost sight in one eye with NO MARKERS in my bloods r any other tests apart from some high inflammatory marker

[@cryswhipple8587]

I was diagnosed with Hashimotos. The medications suggested have terrible lifelong side effects that require more meds infinitum. After 6 years of trial and error I am now on a Keto/Carnivore diet that works for me. Skin problems ((dishyrdrotic eczema),Chronic Migraines and swollen aching joints are all alleviated with just my diet. I am learning that American wheat crops may have been the source of my issues. Food allergy tests are also important. Even mild allergies cause inflammation. Inflammation is the culprit in so many long term medical issues. Thank you Dr. Berry for your videos.

[@karoc2829]

Thank youuu, I saw your older video about this and went to tell my doctor about it, I'm actually going to a new doctor tomorrow since the other doctor refused to take those tests for me. Godspeed doc

[@carolpack4103]

They refuse

[@carnivorehippie8071]

Get another doctor.

[@AZJen480]

My husband, daughter, and I have to pay out of pocket for a naturopath for proper thyroid treatment. Would be nice if our health insurance could actually be used to keep us healthy.

[@dianeNoneYa1157]

Show them this video!!! If they refuse, go to their superior...EVERYONE HAS SOMEONE ABOVE THEM!!!

[@selenataylor6959]

Ordering them privately online is an option.

[@sandollarj504]

@@selenataylor6959 How exactly?

[@cleancutguy1892]

Great video, Dr Ken Berry!!

[@rhondae8222]

Thank you, Dr. Berry.

[@BBurns-vg9om]

Dr Berry. All your videos are excellent! You are just brilliant with your results. I watch all your bone videos too and follow and do all what you suggest. Thank you so much for all your hard work ❤

[@mariabrayton3861]

Thank you Dr. Berry ❤

[@ZuhatzArt]

Thank you so much for this info and the links!! So grateful for this.

[@DLee756]

This is a great video. Thank you, Dr Berry.

[@mariaelenamontgomery8774]

My doctor added all the tests you recommended without any questions!

[@jeandriskell7470]

Thank you!

[@danielcohen24]

Thanks Doc!

[@lorettaenglerth1361]

Thank you for this info

[@lindatanner8726]

I have hyperthyroidism with goiter's. I take half a tablet of methamozol every other day. My general doctor had treated me for 23 years and never found it. It was my gastroenteritis that sent me to a specialist who found it. He has been exceptional.

[@annettemurray4070]

I seen a new endocrinologist last Friday. She told me the only test ever needed is TSH. I was diagnosed with Hashimotos 41 years ago. I have had been taking Armour for about 20 years now, was on synthroid. Armour seems to work the best for me. Now my Free T4 is low, TSH is good. My NP only orders those two. She suggested I see an Endocrinologist. So, I was referred and did. No help whatsoever

[@ShanaColcleasure]

I looked at the reviews of endocrinologist for hours before selecting the one I went to. If you have a choice, I have found the reviews to be very accurate.

[@patriciaboatman8423]

I'm 14 yrs post total thyroidectomy. I live in Mississippi and have yet to find a endocrinologist that gets it. In 2022 l fired ny last endocrinologist forever. I COULD NEVER make them see l cant convert t4. I now see a NP that believes the free t3 should be upper range of RR. Im 72 and have so many factors that interfere with my thyroid levels. MTHFR, stage 3 rental disease, Hemochromtosis, clotting, and liver enzyme CYP2D6 that can cause toxicity in the liver when combined medication is taken . Sad thing is 95%.of drs don't care to help you. They just to quickly write that prescription that fixes that issue but causes harm to other organs. .

[@iamtheyorkiemom]

So helpful thank you! I've been really struggling and I'm headed in for labs next week. Now I feel genuinely empowered!

[@bluepineapple3D]

Thanks for responding 🙂🙏

[@ramonaearnest4709]

Funny... I went to a doctor that I was told was the best endocrinologist in St Louis. Never once did he draw any blood from me I went to him off and on for about 3 years. He stood in front of me and held an ink pen in front of my face and said follow the pen with my eyes. Then he told me to hold my arms out straight so he could see if my hands were shaking. Then he said okay take the prescription I gave you and come back in a few months. Needless to say I didn't go back after I gave him a couple tries. I found out I am my own best doctor and I have done an amazing job researching and learning about my symptoms and treatments. Much thanks to Dr Berry in all of his knowledge and caring help me get some relief. BTW I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism from my gynecologist... Of all people! Please be vigilant on your own treatments never stop learning because you can get relief when you find out what works for you! God bless!

[@sneezingwithwetmascara8848]

I am in Stl too, I go to a Dr in Webster that is very open minded and on board for these full panels

[@leadimentoobrien1221]

Very good!! Thaaaaaank you!

[@dvoshell6828]

Thank you so helpful

[@hiicutiiepiie]

Thank you so much doctor

[@StopeCope]

My PCP just ordered one for me. I'm listening...

[@Hollycat50]

I have been hypo for 30 years. Something felt very wrong. I felt like I was dying. Waited 8 months to see an endo because they are the only ones in Canada who can order a full thyroid panel. He spent 45 minutes explaining why I didn't need it, took me off dessicated thyroid (and the little bit of T3 I was getting) and put me on synthroid. I left in tears. I went home to die what I knew would be a miserable death. Two years later I begged God to send help and within minutes, I found a naturopathic doctor that saved my life. I had the second worst case of reverse T3 she had seen in 20 years. It took almost 2 years for my blood work to get within normal range. Ketovore and feeling better. It will take the rest of my life to heal properly. Grateful there are those that care enough to do their job properly.

[@doreenploughman9462]

Can you if possible tell me the name of your NP? I'm in need of a NP to help with my meds for thyroid.

[@Hollycat50]

@@doreenploughman9462 Dr. Jennifer Luis in Vancouver, BC. She does video appointments, so you won't have to travel!

[@janicerivera5570]

Thank you for teaching us how to be our own best advocate for our health/life.

[@jimmymalone3494]

Thank you.

[@mariamilewska7779]

Thanks 👍

[@jeffrey4577]

Outstanding advice

[@dyanalayng5507]

Thank you, Dr. Berry. I have a family history of hypothyroidism, leading to half of my thyroid removed surgically in 1973, due to a benign tumour on my thyroid. Since then, my synthroid has reduced from 1.25 mg to .75 mg, over the years. My endocrinologist explained this reduction as "I must be getting younger." (He was more interested in cholesterol levels)

[@tb54321]

Started carnivore about 8 months ago and still had thyroid issues, so my doctor started me on Dr Brownsteins iodine protocol and wow! What a difference that has made for me! Carnivore plus iodine has changed my health completely (and adding organ meat supplements because I hate eating organ meats). Working up to high dose iodine - 25mg - was tough at first. I went through detoxing which makes you jittery sometimes. But once I got past that detox phase, my energy improved and my mood. Now my hair is starting to grow again. I highly recommend high fat carnivore and dr brown steins book on iodine for hashimotos/hypothyroid issues. I can’t wait to get my next thyroid test!

[@JulieBram]

Hi, I have hypothyroidism. I am on Thyroxine 100g but still had terrible symptoms, so I went carnivore 3 months ago. My antibodies are sky high, but my doctor refused to adjust or consider any other medication, so I paid for private blood tests, which confirmed they are still high. After shuffing the results under his nose, he still refused to do anything. I've just started on two drops of iodine a day. How many do you take and did you increase it gradually? 😊

[@mikepeek5655]

Great post. I have almost every single symptom that Dr Berry spoke about. No doubt I have issues that can be resolved with the protocol. Thanks for posting the best comment on this subject. I will make this a priority.

[@tserevenad]

Glad megadose of iodine worked for you. It is not always the case. Proceed with caution if anyone is going to use or try iodine. I tried 5mg drops and it blew up my thyroid…all biomarkers went out of range. I quit that large dose for a while and now take 200mcg. So far no benefit, next blood work in a month.

[@marygrabill7127]

​@@JulieBramGoogle 'iodine crisis pdf' for a free download of Lynne Farrow's book.

[@sharonweston5659]

@@tserevenadoh my, what brand of iodine were you using?

[@kathrynclayton6326]

Thank you

[@patriciaboatman8423]

Awesome advice

[@SymphoniasStories]

The only tests my doctor ordered for me were TSH, antibodies, and T4. Frustrating. I bet that is what the insurance covered.

[@therealjenniferrr]

Sometimes they just say these things though. I had a doc tell me that my insurance would likely not cover testing vitamin D cause everyone is deficient. And my insurance always covers it, minus the lab copay which I was paying anyway for the other labs I was having done. You better believe they covered it.

[@pursuehealth940]

My recent panel included TSH 2.52, T4 6.8, T3 Uptake 30%, Free T4 2.0, RT3 14.2, TPO Ab 91, Tg Ab

[@AZJen480]

Low Dose Naltrexone is good for reducing the antibodies if you can't get them under control with a carnivore or lion diet. My daughter has gotten hers down with ketovore.

[@shirleyedwards5355]

Thankyou dr berry im going to to this at my gp surgery asap ❤

[@angelaraum1545]

You can order yrself also. Last time I was at Labcorp they had a Ad in the office about it.

[@vikkiemonument7807]

Yay , thank you for discussing the thyroid 😊

[@dimpsthealien333]

Love this ❤

[@deborahanderson4211]

Mine was missed for years.

[@koolbeans8292]

T-3 the "Worker Bee" Great review doc, I'm certified through Functional Medicine University with Dr. Grisanti. You mentioned Enantiomer, I zoomed back to Organic Chem. Great Job!

[@zita-lein]

Great suggestion to document your request and his refusal. Once that’s done, so is all further conversation. I’d be off to a new doc without looking back.

[@tomfishertheflyingpigvinta5857]

You Doctors that know this stuff should all get together and start a dr registry of like dr’s across the country so we can find them!!

[@DavidStriker]

Shared with friends who have a thyroid condition

[@Dailyhustle74]

Thank you so much. I have thyroid issue & they just keep giving me meds & up my dosage because they don’t see changes & I always feel tired & all the symptoms you just describe

[@lisalyons5381]

So good so helpful. I needed those sentences as I would probably just say order them because I am requesting or I will walk out lol

[@frankl3107]

If you don't know why your Dr won't order the tests you need...it's time to understand how docs are paid. Ask if your doc is part of an ACO? Docs are paid on many models in which they are paid a share of the "savings" that they manage for Medicare or the Manage Care Organization....bottom line is that your health is their last concern and in most cases they are only employees and the system will not allow them to order anything that is outside of the usual checklist.

[@lorrainespiers532]

Great vid. On the tpo/tg antibodies - do they parallel each other, i.e. if one is elevated will the other be up as well. I ask this for self-pay pts - if I can order just one, which one would be best to pick? Thanks!

[@SilverDustCD]

I JUST LOVE YOU!!! - RN x 28 years

[@tanaatkinson7833]

Would love to know what your thoughts are about the results of the panel and the ranges? Thank you for all you do to help us stay healthy 😊

[@metricdeep8856]

My sister in law...was convinced to have her thyroid destroyed...only to need a drug every day. What if you can't get that drug? That's like being sold oxygen.

[@critter4004]

When I demanded the thyroid antibodies portion of the tests, I was asked if I'd ever seen a psych!! Ended up losing my thyroid because it was totally destroyed after years of damage from undiagnosed Hashimoto's 😢 my surgeon said it fell apart in her hands.

[@NiceLoki]

Just bought and read "Iodine, why you need It". I've just had TSH, free T4 and free T3 tests. I'm thinking that I should get an iodine test, which will be problematic here on the NHS. My health clinic here sucks big time.

[@Habanero777]

No need for iodine test, just use iodine 😊3 drops daily, increase if needed

[@tserevenad]

@@Habanero777not so fast, I used it, lugolls 5mg equivalent and blew up my thyroid. Proceed with iodine topic with care.

[@jobrown8146]

@@tserevenad In what way did you "blow up" your thyroid. I've just started taking a low dose.

[@debbieredfern2267]

Get your iodine levels checked via a private urine test. Not expensive. You definitely need to know your levels before you start adding iodine drops that you may not need and if you have Hashimotos adding iodine without medical advice is not recommended. It can complete mess up your thyroid 😮

[@NiceLoki]

@@debbieredfern2267 thanks, I didn't think that starting iodine without knowing what my starting level is would be a good idea.

[@tonyhall8495]

I haven't a Thyroid problem ,as far as I know!!?🤔, but this video is excellent. Thank you 👏

[@NZDee81]

I've been having low-normal TSH for years now, despite my thyroid being chock full of nodules (ranging from Tirads 1-5). But because the TSH is "normal" the public health system in New Zealand won't do anything about the nodules/thyroid beyond once-yearly ultrasound scans (and the occasional CT every 2-3 years). Hearing about these other tests and knowing they exist I'll ask my doctor to do a greater investigation (especially helpful now, since my next yearly scan is in August).

[@peggyfitzmaurice4100]

Thank you so much - I have been on Levothyroxine for over 25 years and I have been questioning my doctor for better testing to see more info. It is a struggle. If you are on Medicare, changing doctors is not very viable. Too many doctors won’t take on new Medicare patients. It doesn’t pay them enough

[@AGregory90]

Hi Dr Berry - I have Hashimotos/hypothyroid, and ive heard the thyroid requires a small amount of carbs to function correctly, is this true? I am slowly transitioning to a low carb and then, hopefully carnivore diet, but I was concerned about this. Thank you for your videos, I have just subscribed.

[@Poppy_love59]

I love this way of thinking Doc, Pin that Doctor to opening himself up to a Malpractice lawsuit!

[@allthingsfinished3858]

In Canada we can't get a fraction of the tests available in America. 😢

[@Momtocam1997]

My NP only ran TSH..said it was a cascading lab check…TSH came back normal, so no more testing was ordered....this was 3 years ago.

[@babiJano2023]

That put any Doc in good law case if .... Great video

[@JackClayton123]

My doctor caught it early during a check up. After on TSH for a few months, he followed up with additional testing. Unfortunately, it wasn’t autoimmune, it seems it was just hereditary (maternal side).

[@denisestone8491]

I would also request a nurse in the room before you request that he/she document these things. As I have requested things before to doctors and they ignored me. I never got the requested forms I asked for before leaving the hospital because, IMO, they never wanted to do the tests I requested.

[@suzitarot4444]

I've had a partial thyroidectomy, where half my thyroid was removed. The surgeon said that portion of the thyroid had overgrown to the point it was wrapped around my trachea, essentially strangling me. 😳 After the surgery, I experienced worsening asthma symptoms, which the surgeon said was unrelated. Then I developed a sensitivity to corn products. I gaineed about 30lbs and have only been able to lose maybe 10 lbs no matter what ive tried to do. I've been on the keto/carnivore diet for a little over a month, and my asthma symptoms have subsided, my blood pressure has dropped (it was never really high, just a little elevated for me), and I'm overall feeling better with no thyroid symptoms. And yet my TSH level went from about 4 to 25 😳, after being on Armour thyroid instead of levothyroxine for the past 6 months. I see my endocrinologist in a couple weeks, and hopefully we can resolve things. Since going keto/carnivore, I have more energy, less brain fog, better mood, reduced asthma symptoms, etc. My mom has a complicated medical history, I call her Molly the Anomaly lol...apparently the apple doesn't fall far from the tree! 😂😂

[@leecarlson9713]

I am fortunate in that I have a primary care physician who listens to me. So the next time I am going in for a thyroid test, I will ask for a full thyroid panel, because my thyroid levels fluctuate , and I go from 125mcg, to 187mcg dosing. I have long COVID, after having COVID six times, and the fatigue is almost debilitating. It would be nice to know if any of the tiredness stems from my thyroid issues, because that could be corrected.

[@jillallen7786]

At last a doctor who understands thyroid. I battled for years to get proper treatment. I now take T3 only because I don’t convert T4 well enough. I arrange my own blood tests to monitor this.

[@bediha]

Could you also provide the numbers for each of the parameters? Because conventional medical system's numbers might be different the functional medicine system's numbers. Probably even we get the tests our doctors are gonna say " you are fine"" and we need to diagnose ourselves.

[@abourg]

I kept asking my doctor because I was gaining weight and I was barely eating, he didn’t believe me, but made the test anyway and sure enough I had hypothyroid , he sent me to a specialist that didn’t seem to take me seriously so I changed another one. My other endocrinologist said I need my thyroid to be removed. I said I didn’t want to because it’s due to autoimmune problem and gut I’m gonna fix the problem. He said you seem to know what you’re talking about you don’t need me get out of my office. Next endocrinologist is it old East Indian doctor and always listen to me, but laugh at me when i said i will heal, he said it was for life, he placed me on some tapazole 5 ml but after a month I cut them in half 2ml eventually we went to every other day, and eventually he said to stop taking them after 4 years of carnivore diet I was heal, he could not believe it, ask me what i did I said its fat and meat beef mostly 😂

[@ry9640]

It took me 7 years to get treatment for hypothyroidism, even after seeing some of the best endos in my metro area. Functional medicine is the only way to go.

[@denisewilliams7110]

Hello Dr Ken, I'm two weeks into the carnivore diet. I was diagnosed with hashimoto. I'm hoping to heal hashimoto with the carnivore diet. Do you have a video talking about the bloat feeling one may experience on carnivore diet ? I had my gallbladder taken out some years ago I'm wondering if this is part of the problem of trying to digest fat and meat. Thank you! Enjoy your video Denise

[@teric4384]

I have hypothroidism since my 20's. I am now 68 and my doctor refuses to test. He told me since I quit smoking 20+ years ago I no longer have a thyroid problem. I am looking for a new doctor.

[@linda-ks9pf]

My GP 🇬🇧 refused to do any thyroid tests for over 5 years!

[@monalee7687]

I just came to my doctor to ask for a thyroid panel and he refused to check for reverse T3 and his reasoning was that he doesn’t know what that is so he won’t be able to help analyze the results. At least he was honest haha.

[@drlauramannering]

Great info. I am currently taking Lugol’s iodine in an attempt to reverse my hypothyroidism.

[@akaLaBrujaRoja]

My daughter and I both have Hashimoto’s and take Synthroid. Only our TSH is checked routinely and T4 occasionally, with our doses often being adjusted based on the TSH. We both still have hypothyroid symptoms, even when our TSH levels are too low but the endocrinologist will reduce our doses of Synthroid based on that one test. Would these other tests be helpful to us? We’ve had results where the TSH was “normal” and T4 was off, and vice versa.