DOCTOR STRANGE Was Wrong: Multiverse Breaking Was All His Fault - Spider-Man: No Way Home EXPLAINED

Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness is going to show Stephen Strange answering for his crimes, endangering the multiverse. And boy, does he have a lot to answer for. When you look at the events of Spider-Man: No Way Home, you see that Stephen failed to be the adult in the room. Heck, he was barely a hero. I this video, we tell you why.
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Doctor Strange is a pragmatist, he handles things with logic and objectivity.
This is why Stephen was determined to send the multiversal trespassers back to their universes, even if that meant they would all die.
And that’s because their existence threatened reality. While spider-man was willing to put the world at risk just to give these villains a second chance.
But they were in this mess for one reason, because Stephen Strange decided to cast a memory spell. It was meant to be simple and harmless, but it all went wrong.
Reality was almost destroyed, all because Stephen decided to flex his magical muscles.
But Stephen’s wrong-doings in No Way Home go far beyond the butched spell, he made so many bad calls. Choices that not only put reality at risk, but also raise some moral questions about power and the consequences of misusing it.
Doctor Strange was wrong, and we are about to unpack just how wrong he was.
Let’s begin with Doctor Strange’s main misdeed in No Way Home. The memory spell. To be fair, Peter Parker holds a lot of the responsibility here. It was him who asked Stepehn for his help. Peter actually wanted Stephen to use the time stone to rewrite history.
But Stephen was the one that suggested the memory spell. He could have just said “sorry kid” and sent Peter on his way. But instead he decided to brainwash the whole world just to help poor Peter Parker. It was his idea, so he is the main culprit.
Peter is a friendly-neighborhood-spider-man, he has no idea on how magic spells work, or the implication of the Runes of Kof-Kol. Stephen is the expert, he knows first hand that there are consequences to spells. I’m no magic expert, but this spell sounds pretty dangerous.
And for anyone who says that Strange should have just erased the world’s memory of Mysterio framing and revealing Peter’s identity. That’s still wrong.
We are talking about a spell that will affect billions. It won’t just erase their memories, it will rewrite them into something else, something untrue. The world knew about Spider-Man’s identity for weeks, so what happens to all of that span of time?
Strange claims it’s a simple spell for forgetting, but there’s clearly a lot more to it, it’s basically the same as rewriting reality.
What’s ironic is that when Peter asks Strange to use the time stop, Stephen proves how insanely stupid that request is.
Yet 5 seconds later, Strange is just fine with rewriting the memories of countless people, without any consent. This spell is also an extreme violation of privacy and free will. And it’s just to help Peter clear his name and get him and his friends into MIT.
And this isn’t even the first time Strange cast this spell. [clip] We don’t know what happened in the full-moon party Kamar-Taj, but I highly doubt that it warranted a memory wipe.
It’s a careless missuess of power. And you gotta wonder about the moral and ethical implications here. If sourceres can just cast such a spell at any time they want, choosing to erase people’s memory whenever it suits them. That’s pretty much playing god.
And if Strange is willing to wipe the world’s memory for Peter, where is the line?
I mean Strange literally just found an-all-in-one solution for anytime he or other heroes mess up. Instead of facing the consequences for their mistakes, Strange can just wave his hands and poof, everyone forgets.
It’s actually terrifying. People should be able to trust these heros to do the right thing, but both Strange and Spider-Man prove that they will do the very wrong and selfish thing whenever it serves them.
And Doctor Strange holds more power than most, since even something as a seemingly harmless spell can tear reality apart.
And what’s insane here is that there is no one to enforce such spells, because the very people who are supposed to enforce these spells are the ones who perform them.
And look, it’s nice and all that Stepehn is willing to move heavens and Earth just to help Peter, but maybe tune it down a little.
I’m sure there is a spell that would have allowed Strange to expose Quentin Beck’s lies. Like some remembrance spell, a way to review memories like in Harry Potter or something.

[@ScreenCrush]

Do you think Strange was wrong?

[@Dzaimon8562]

Probably

[@peterparker-spiderman8083]

👍

[@uh3331]

idk do i?

[@Campbell5339]

No

[@bordergoly]

Yes. Stupidly reckless too

[@rudrodeepchatterjee]

You know what's funny? In doctor strange(movie), he said "They should put the warnings before the spells", but here, he warned Peter about the consequences of the spell the second time around, in the end, after the spell was conducted once.

[@MavricMusic]

Lol I guess that's why there's no warnings

[@rudrodeepchatterjee]

@@MavricMusic he did warn Peter, but not before he conducted it once.

[@jaredm2365]

Oh yeah we've all messed up and learned from our mistakes lol

[@rudrodeepchatterjee]

@@jaredm2365 umm...I think you contradicted the comment. He did not learn, he instead messed up the rule he himself decided upon back then.

[@jaredm2365]

@@rudrodeepchatterjee you're reading to hard into it... Just saying after he fucked up the first time comments about precaution came up.

[@zengamer21]

When Strange says, "they're here because of you," he didn't mean it was Peter's fault. He simply meant that those villains were coming to this particular universe because this version of Peter is from this universe. The broken spell placed a target on Peter. It's not blame, it's an explanation of what's happening.

[@azairaza]

thats what I was thinking👍

[@thetruedarkener]

People don't get this..? I can understand children not getting it, I guess.

[@azairaza]

@@thetruedarkener LOL those are legends high on something which we haven't got hands on!!!👽

[@TheSirNoir]

Correct, but his tone delivers that statement with accusation in it and thats how Pete took it. Strange got touchy feely in the end because he is Smart enough to know his part in the present catastrophy but Pete is willing to carry the burden of full responsibility that Strange wouldn't

[@rizzzzzzzzzzzz]

@@TheSirNoir exactly. he was explaining what's happening but also, he blamed Peter Parker for messing with the spell several times which was why the spell went wrong (acc to Strange)😴. he also got mad at Peter when he said he hadn't asked the MIT admins (or whatever they're called) to reconsider first before he came up to Strange for a spell. all through out the movie he's asked Peter to do all that he can do to reverse the spell. that scene where MJ and Ned were brought in and Strange was telling them what to do. Strange had always been arrogant and irresponsible and ended up blaming someone else because of that

[@ethanhall8762]

While not excusing his failings, i believe part of Stephen’s behavior is him trying to look out for Peter the way Tony did, as Stephen knows that if Tony were still alive. Peter would have just called him

[@Schrsmnymkr]

I wonder who he will rely on now as he is basically on his own in terms of having a mentor. It will be nice to see a more independent Spider-Man 🤔. It’s time the Tom Holland version grew up

[@chrismurillo7216]

But I remember Peter hiding his fuck ups from Tony also

[@Schrsmnymkr]

@@chrismurillo7216 yes but all through his arch they set up Tony as his father figure. Now that he's gone it seems he's changing in that he's learning to be more responsible for his actions and thinking before leaping. Basically Tony was the uncle Ben death that we never saw in the Tom Holland iteration of Spider-Man.

[@EliasHzD]

Strange is also reckless in the comics, that's what yall forgot about. He tryes to sell his soul for power. Also, the What If? episodes shows how bad he can break when he wants to do something.

[@daydaymilburn7259]

I don't know if a lot of people read the comics. I always try to explain that to people, these are characters from comic books, not movie characters, these are just live adaptations with moderate to severe modifications

[@KankleBaby]

Yep you're the only one who knows Strange is reckless in the comics. Congrats on being the only person to ever read Doctor Starnge conic books. D bag

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

I don't know what's worse about No Way Home; Strange's 'strange' character depiction in the film due to ridiculous amounts of arrogance and recklessness OR Peter following the moral advice from his Aunt May instead of the wizard who knows a bit more about multiversal consequences than his aunt...

[@coreyburns4168]

Lol strange has been arrogant and reckless throughout the mcu. Spider-man saving the villains is literally central to his character.

[@mr.lightzplease9366]

@@coreyburns4168 he wasnt careless or reckless in Infinity War and Endgame. Thats where he progressed in his thinking and behavior

[@MarlonOgbeide]

@@mr.lightzplease9366 I say he was still pretty arrogant in thor 3 and infinity war

[@coreyburns4168]

@@mr.lightzplease9366 he still messed with other realities in order to save his own reality going against what Mordo said. He even said in the MoM trailer that he was doing what he thought was right. Is that not arrogance? Plus he was confident in doing the spell in No Way Home because he had done it on Wong before without a hitch. He was confident.

[@mr.lightzplease9366]

@@MarlonOgbeide I said careless and reckless not arrogant. Hes always been arrogant

[@maineymonroe8225]

Strange wasn’t wrong. The memory spell also explains why no one had ever seen Magic or heard of the order of Wizards. The ancient one has probably cast that spell hundreds of times when they were discovered.

[@johndebrasio8797]

Did you even watch the video? He mentioned the methodology or LACK THERE OF was the problem and the reasoning of using said spell. One reason is necessary to it's own existence, the other....

[@crestraizn]

He was so out of character in the movie.

[@eddiegreencheez]

It's on both of them but Strange really should've explained all the dos and don'ts before starting the spell, also Wong should've shut down Strange on the idea of using that spell, he's the Sorcerer Supreme, stop letting Strange walk over and manipulate you and get your sanctum and its people in order. Maybe he should've just wiped Peter's memory of having the idea in the first place lol

[@gabrielmurray929]

He was wrong agreed. Though Sylvie killing HWR probably fucked up the Multiverse just as badly.

[@thatomanaka323]

She screwed reality

[@CE4Ever]

Bitch be crazy!

[@rodneybeckstedt6032]

Its all broken now and i kinda like it

[@kelvins2590]

@Gabriel Murray I’m still waiting to see how her actions messed with the multiverse. I hope they explain it soon.

[@NametagAlexander]

@@kelvins2590 I was wondering that earlier today. From what I remember, her killing HWR further branched the timelines, re sparking a multiversal war to come.

[@itsjay79]

I saw on another breakdown channel as to why Dr Strange changed his mind. As noted in the Doctor Strange movie when he tried to save The Ancient One's life and she the projected herself out of hey body. Her and Stephen were talking and she said to him "It's not about you" and it "clicked", when Peter said "it's all my fault" (that Ned and MJ) are also caught up in his mess, it reminded him of that phrase... and its a chance to help.. now not saying its right lol.. but I can understand his logic

[@pooloftim8263]

“Dr Strange is a pragmatist, he handles his problems with logic and objectivity.” Um..rather than accept a hand injury (as any normal person would do), the dude travelled the world to become a wizard, uses a sentient cape to fly, wears a magic amulet that allows him to time-travel, tears through the multiverse to get a piece of ass from Christine Palmer, and allowed Thanos to murder half the galaxy’s population with the hopes Tony Stark would eventually figure out how to bring everyone back. Yeah, he’s definitely a pragmatist.

[@ItIsWhatItIs78174]

They're both at fault. Dr Strange was showing off and Peter was just being your average young adult not considering the consequences of his actions

[@bern9642]

I'm sure Peter isn't even an adult yet but it's all on strange. He is the expert

[@davantebarbain3216]

@@bern9642 he a young adult dudes literally going to college

[@bern9642]

@@davantebarbain3216 he's not 18 in the movie. So nah he's not a young adult. Going off to college doesn't make you an adult.

[@nothumanff5900]

@@davantebarbain3216 Man dr didn’t explain the consequences before casting that’s why Peter asked many questions.Because he is going to face it

[@danforward3913]

Strange was definitely wrong. Movies in which the conflict comes from a hero's mistake aren't as satisfying. However, if this is the middle part of Strange's arc of personal growth, then I'll be less annoyed with it. Guess we'll find out in a few days!

[@iamrenvik1522]

I think it's most definitely the 2nd in a trilogy of strange movies with an over arcing plot thread for him to go through

[@Rama-tut3220]

That's true but we should admit that Strange was pretty badly written in NWH .

[@danforward3913]

@@Rama-tut3220 Completely agree. There should be either a great explanation for it in MoM, or he should go through a harsh reckoning for his mistakes and resolve to be better.

[@iamrenvik1522]

@@danforward3913 think thata what the illuminati are about to do when wanda shows up and takes the story arc from there for now and maybe in the 3rd movie of her do get one we might see another version where the reckoning actually plays out

[@khandimahn9687]

I disagree. Movies where the conflict comes from a mistake can be very satisfying. Fixing a mistake (or at least attempting to) and dealing with consequences gives a lot of opportunity for character growth and development. But the story needs good writing (and acting, and directing) to support it.

[@strangelaw6384]

6:18 "Strange is supposed to be the responsible adult" somehow I feel that this is also what his upcoming movie will be entirely about

[@hunterxp48]

Strange not wrong, just wreckless. Taking into Loki into account, the mutltiverse was already branching and out of control, which could also lead to the deviants versions of Strange, Wanda, etc. It was inevitable, and he who remains/ Kang would've seen this path coming at the time.

[@pratham5719]

And Kevin Feige confirmed it what caused the spell go wrong was the events of LOKI episode 6. Screencrush is at it's best hypocrisy according to him wanda is innocent about whom there is enough evidence of selfishness in Wanda Vision which she later ovecame no doubt but fault goes to Dr. Strange.

[@OGBLACK]

Well from what Kang said in Loki he already knows that its all gunna happen, even all the way to whatever “Secret Wars” will be he know because he said its all happened before over and over again.

[@vegamatic2434]

So are we just ignoring the fact that Peter is the sole reason the spell was messed up? Yea it was stranges idea but he also told Peter to stop talking amd not to change the spell midcast cause of how dangerous it is and Peter just kept on talking til the multiverse broke. The spell was Dr strange idea but the mishaps were 100% Peter's fault

[@koto5202]

No your wrong listen to this: 7:52. Peter is a teenager with no knowledge of magic whatsoever. The reason Peter did intervene even thou dr strange told him not to was because he didn't want his life ruined and he did not know the consequences of doing so.

[@Batman1998-]

@@koto5202 still peters fault, strange told him to stop talking 3 times and Peter doesn’t listen. And now aunt may died and he’s alone. Peter deserves it

[@lookkilla001]

@@Batman1998- dude you don’t know what you’re talking about😂, All the peters ever existed have a family member or a friend die from a villain

[@abandonmarkspeare5213]

@@Batman1998- right,even Strange already told peter that "Spell doesn't work like that" but he keep talking and talking...

[@Vathural1]

It doesn't matter what Peter did. It's Steven who is adult, who has great power and great responsibility. He sholud have predict that and talk to Peter about the spell before.

[@evo2542]

I bet what happens is that the movie is going to pull a Rick and Morty where Morty thinks he can make save points to go back to but in reality is just going to different universes. Every time Strange Casts spells to benefit his universe, another universe gets the 'shit' end of the deal. He will find out that conservation of energy is a thing. You can't just pull new energy out of nowhere. The movie is about him learning that and realizing he has to find in-universe solutions to problems he had been using other universes for (and maybe even them for). It would definitely be a good setup for conflict down the road where other universes look at our 'perfect' one as basically the 1% where it gets everything it wants by forcing other universes to 'lose' somehow. They end up with worse realities on average. That may be why the first sorcerer supreme in the first movie ( I forget her name) felt comfortable with pulling from the dark dimension..... because at least it wasn't from another universe similar to hers. So they looked down on her for doing so. But she is more savvy as to how things work than Strange. The best evidence is the fact that his spells tear the universe apart always. He can handle little tears. But if he keeps adding more and more as he did in No Way Home, eventually they become permanent and people can move to the main universe. Makes me wonder if the spider-man spell was actually the universe being shuffled somehow, NOT just a memory wipe. So Strange REDEFINED their reality while he thought he was only 'brainwashing' reality. He will realize that in the movie. He was basically a chimp with a gun.

[@adamherrick6077]

The fun thing about Stephen’s character is he acts pragmatic and detached and as this stoic vigil- but he’s totally emotional. He’s absolutely empathic and swayed by both his own emotions and concern for others. It’s what holds him back from being this godly protector but also keeps him human and imperfect. No one understood why he was so cocky in No Way Home and I argued again and again it’s because he still battles with this same complex because it isn’t that easy to just change.

[@killersummer]

THANK YOU

[@eternallylearning2811]

You know what after I first watched Dr strange movie I started headcannoning that he stile practices his doctoring with the line of him being a great healer first whenever I found a magic character that would need a magic doctor I would consider him and now I'm in the middle of drawing the verious beings I thought of sending to marvel with my deviantart or tumblr over the years and now I think they all would have seen him for medical purposes and none of them are human. So now I'm imagining him with a waiting room full of eldrich abominations some regulars.

[@SurlockGnomez]

Stephen (I can call him that) was not flexing or bragging by casting the spell, as it was a standard spell of forgetting. Who would he even be flexing and/or bragging to? By the current understanding of how the spell works even he wouldn't remember casting the spell due to it containing the details of Peter being Spider-Boy. It also wasn't a flex because he had successfully used it before without any issue. The warning Wong gave wouldn't have even been given if he knew it had worked before; especially considering it was done by them ("We've used it for a lot less"). Whilst it's arguable that it was Stephen's fault as he was casting this spell, this is incorrect. This is quickly ascertained after looking at how Spider-Boy changed the parameters of the spell four times (Stephen said six and Spider-Boy five but it was actually four). Before the very first change he was told "it's very difficult and dangerous to change it mid-casting" but he then went ahead and changed it anyway. He then subsequently continued to change it after being specifically told "let's not change the parameters of this spell anymore while I'm casting". As for excusing this ridiculous behaviour due to Spider-Boy not knowing the full details; what further details anyone need to know beyond "people will forget you were ever Spider-Man." What did he think was going to happen? Did he think all of those "people" he mentioned during the cast were in fact not people? If he had any questions about the specifics of the spell or wanted exclusions from the self explanatory "people" part of it; he could have asked between the lobby and the crypt rather than asking about the crypt. I don't ask nor need to know or even care which brushes a decorator is going to use after they have stated "I will paint that wall red." and have then agreed. I also then don't ask them to change the colour four times after they'd started to paint it - as doing so the outcome would obviously be...brown. The enforcer of such spells is Wong, the Sorcerer Supreme whose responsibility is to protect reality not Stephen. Wong didn't tell Stephen not to cast, even knowing it was their intention to do so. He just an off through a portal with suitcases presumably filled with Beyoncé albums.

[@crosssiclare4708]

Let’s be real, the reason why Strange acted so out of character in No Way Home is because Multiverse of Madness was originally supposed to come out prior to his cooperation with Spider-Man. So marvel changed the script (just like they did in Falcon & the Winter Soldier) from their original plans and this is the best they came up with. They’ve already done this (at least) twice so we need to hold them accountable!

[@Doug87969]

They delayed it because of covid.. No way home would have been much more boring without it.

[@Jumpoable]

So we've already seen a deposed Sorcerer Supreme acting all kooky? It's because NWH is after MoM...?

[@shareefhaddad2377]

I didn’t consider that explanation, but it’s spot on!

[@adamherrick6077]

Your desecration of movie order will not go unpunished! (Jk I love mcu as it is)

[@aidrahydra2770]

They did it once again with Antman and The Wasp Quantumania

[@yoyomayne]

It is Strange's fault. Why would you cast an extremely dangerous spell that can be so easily altered in the presence of a teenager? He could've just sent Peter home and told him everything would be fine when he woke up the next day like any responsible adult sorcerer would do

[@vegamatic2434]

Or Peter could've just shut his mouth and let strange cast the spell but he kept talking and ruined everything

[@yoyomayne]

@@vegamatic2434 nah, he shouldn't have been there, he is a kid

[@waywardbeef]

Strange probably knows this will gonna happen. There's always a reason why he let this happen. Remember what he did on the Avengers Infinity War. Everything was planned and needed to be executed as it should be.

[@ugoeze7360]

Nah. The world knowing who he is puts his loved ones in danger and it at the best case, being associated with was already ruining his loved ones’ lives. The spell would’ve worked no problem. It is Peter’s fault for not keeping his mouth shut after the first spell correction 😂

[@DownLow0099]

But then the movie couldn't movie

[@lgt_jne]

Strange was in the same level of goofyness (i don't even know if that's a real word) as spiderman when they were casting that spell 😭 like he should've at least properly talked with Peter in what he wanted like he's the grown up here he should be the one explaining it 🧍‍♀️

[@thathairyguy]

I kind of feel like the Strange in that Spiderman movie wasn't "our" Strange. But by some bizarre logic our Strange still has to be tried for it by the illuminati because they're all the same being or something. I don't know, I just remember watching the film and thinking he felt a little, "off"...

[@dr.bright5670]

I agree now that you say that. I could see it being a variant or even Mephisto like everyone thought

[@thathairyguy]

@@dr.bright5670 Mephisto surely has to turn up soon - even if not in this film. He's been talked about culturally and also some hints in things like Wandavision: "The devil is in the detail - that's not the only place he is" etc.

[@Scapeghost]

My pet theory is that Marvel needed someone to take over Tony’s mantle of “annoying genius who creates problems for everyone,” and Strange was the only real candidate. That’s why I think of MoM as Avengers: Mage of Multron. Seriously, when fans are questioning whether a major character is a variant or a Skrull, you’ve clearly mishandled that character.

[@grandsome1]

How off, Strange has always been an arrogant prick, after saving the universe, anyone would've gotten a huge boost of their ego, and with Strange its even worse. The guy might have learned some lessons, but that doesn't prevent him from relapsing.

[@kimberly8695]

Peter is a child. Everything is NOW-NOW-NOW, as it is with most teens. Dr. Strange is an adult--an experienced physician and now a powerful sorcerer. He's the one who should've been thinking ahead.

[@CityPlannerPlaysChair]

Reckless in IW And Endgame which directly lead to Loki and Kang. Nevermind the NWH drama. He's getting ALL the blame from the Mordo, Prof X, Captain Marvel, Captain Britain, Black Bolt and Mr Fantastic.

[@simionmatei9715]

Actually the MoM is wanda fault And those idiots who kept her alive after AoU

[@beholdenbeto]

My theory on what happened with the spell and Doctor Strange's recklessness has to do with the multiverse happening. Yes, Strange is arrogant, and yes, Wong warned him about the unknown frontiers of that spell. But there are key words in what they say. "It's just a standard spell of forgetting". It was, for as long as there was a sacred timeline, a delimitation, or enclosed "space" (timespace), provided to the spell. "The entire world is about to forget that Peter Parker is Spiderman" could work, but it was not enclosed to "in this reality/timeline/universe (or whatever)," because it was never a problem. Wong's always been cautious with spells that may be more than what they seem, but Strange, even as a Sorcerer Supreme is usually betting on the ods of it turning out fine (such as trying to use the mirror dimension against a kid having confidence on power instead of intelligence or strategy, giving up the stone to Thanos betting on the 14 million to one odds, etc). And in this one case, where there was never a chance of a multiverse collapse, as there was no such thing just a few days ago maybe, Strange shouldn't have been troubled to think the spell could turn out as disastrous as it did. And 2 more dialogues show that. First "[I always forget] you're just a kid." Yes, Strange was reckless, but he counted on Peter to be mature enough so as to not ruin the spell, or not make anything to mess something dangerous for the unknown as any spell would be. And second and I think most important is "This shouldn't even be possible," after Peter gets back to the Sanctum just after the Green Goblin appears. This line sounds as if there was not supposed to be any mayor consequence to the spell failing, or bringing anyone from outside the universe. We never actually know what the spell is supposed to do, and even at the end of the movie it's that same spell which sends every foreigner entity to their respective universes. And it was a spell they used frequently "For much less." It even was the preferred option against the usage of an hypothetical reality bending time stone. In conclussion, it wasn't a dangerous spell, but it's boundaries were unknown to everyone, and they could've remain unknown had the universe stayed as the sacred timeline one. A fatalist perspective should be that the sorcerer's shouldn't use any kind of spell, but then, what would Earth do without some of its mightiest defenders. Strange isn't really at fault here, and the whole compendium of spells could now have many different variations as a result of the multiverse being born, but that's something that Strange will apparently be investigating in The Multiverse of Madness. So I see that as a mature approach from him to what happened with Peter. And his usage of the spell was responsible, with an unfortunate disregard of Peter's maturity and responsibility when casting the spell, which was not out of irresponsibility from Strange, but respect for someone who also faced death and overcame it. P.S. To the final bit of the video. All the points could be more or less explained really quick and without there being holes in the plote. Why didn't Strange call the other sorcerers, because there was no universe ending event, remember he had contained the spell and there were only bad guys amock. Yes, they were needed to be dealt with quickly, but they were not even world ending threats, tough, but not that much, and it was also a lesson on how to deal with the consequences of your actions from him to Peter, proof of this is how swift Peter was when capturing them. What he didn't account for was Peter misbehaving again and taking the universe ending spell from him, and that's the bit of arrogance I mentioned earlier, he thought of Peter as a kid this time, and was overwhelmed in a simple play of intelligence. And last, why wasn't Wong or anyone else at the universe ending event of the Statue of Liberty, well, he was stuck until then, and after being released he didn't have time to do anything but stop the villains. And even if he could call Wong or anyone else, Strange's still the most powerful sorcerer in the world. The Sorcerer Supreme is just a title, I assume. At least, there isn't any indication of Wong being more powerful than Strange in the movie, he's just the one at charge because Strange was blipped for 5 years.

[@C-Swooop]

I think Strange feels bad for his sacrifice of Tony. He knew how close he and Peter were so maybe now he's just trying to fill in that role since everyone says he's always selfish.

[@versewonderstrikes5353]

This is why it’s important for theses movies to be light hearted at its core and not so serious or realistic. Yeah, we are dealing with potentially serious subjects.

[@davidswisa8490]

If Strange remembers the full moon party, and its the same spell, doesn't that mean he will also remember Peter after casting this spell?

[@BleachWizz]

that's a pretty common human mistake. putting effort onto learning something; perform an act that proves he's capable of it; underestimate all effort it actually takes to perform what's been learned; mess up the very next attempt.

[@TheQuincyEdwards]

Thank you a thousand times for this video! I’ve been saying this is the reason I don’t like No Way Home. Dr. Strange was not acting like the character I’ve come to know. He had a character arc and it was shot threw with this one act to me.

[@mysterio8226]

Shut up

[@mysterio8226]

No Way Home is a masterpiece

[@007killerfrog]

Yeah I always felt this way too. It didn't make sense

[@Maria-bb8rv]

@@mysterio8226 let's not get ahead of ourselves

[@thatomanaka323]

@@mysterio8226 Multiverse of madness will be a masterpiece

[@Therelaxedgirlguide]

50/50 on Peter and Strange. But 100% agree that it was Stephen's cont'd arrogance that lead them down the path. We know the ancient one basically said that is his Achilles heel. Curious to see how humble he will become during multiverse of madness.

[@Jumpoable]

Oh Wanda will show him that the Scarlet Witch is more skilled & powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme.

[@waduhhfreeze9779]

Its not entirely strange's fault. I think we all got it wrong, when peter ask strange "can some people still know?" And strange replied "Thats not how the spell works.", That sentence alone already established that the spell should not be modified. After that peter ask strange to exclude a few people, and im pretty sure strange knows that shouldnt be possible but, because he wanted to help, so he try to modified the spell. While he's busy modifying the spell peter talks to much that cause the modifying to fails. Those dialogues explain it all.

[@onpijamasmultiverse3437]

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[@protorhinocerator142]

"Even something as seemingly harmless as a spell..." Yes, of course. Sorcery magic is completely harmless. Who could possibly see any potential danger there?

[@HACKTACULAR.]

Dr. Strange being aragant is part of his core personality..

[@rudrodeepchatterjee]

I think the only reason strange decided to help Peter was because of what he said: "It's not about me." You for sure know where Steven had learnt that quote. When Peter said that, Strange realized that this request was not a selfish one, but a selfless one. That's why he took the risk. Peter botching the spell is like spilling ink on the paper.

[@rudrodeepchatterjee]

@LAST ACTION NƎGRO exactly.

[@junestunes9916]

Yoooo your clip selection is ELITE brethren , that clip from LIAR LIAR had me SCREAMING 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MilesLeacy]

Maybe the simple explanation for why Strange was so “wrong”, both in actions and characterization, is that the Stephen Strange we see in Spider-Man No Way Home is an impostor - maybe he’s a Skrull, or more likely a mystical entity posing as Strange. Maybe Wong and the other masters of the mystic arts have their suspicions and that’s why they haven’t reinstated him as Sorcerer Supreme.

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

Lol no

[@ProsunMondol]

If that Strange was just a Skrull he wouldn't have any powers. Skrulls can't take the form of other people but not their powers.

[@MilesLeacy]

@@ProsunMondol He still could be a variant or some magical entity in disguise. Probably not, but possible.

[@rudrodeepchatterjee]

I loved the last bit where you patched different scenes from the movie about the "Steven sir" stuff.

[@darkhawk6398]

pls appreciate this line "with great responsibility comes great stupidity"

[@leebutler926]

Wow you've brought up so many great points I just never thought about it. I was just going with the story never giving it a second thought.

[@shareefhaddad2377]

Now that you mentioned it, Spidey’s only fault was wanting to solve the wrong problem. Exposing Mysterio’s lies would have been a far better solution, not that Strange cared to consider that. He could have at least given Spidey an idea clearing his own name himself.

[@kimberly8695]

It is Strange who must learn that "with great power comes great responsibility."

[@wren7195]

I... feel mixed, on this. If every other Super Hero had just stood up for Peter, would that have helped exonerate him, or cast more doubt onto the other Heroes? Frankly I agree with you that this was a *VERY* messed up decision on Strange's part, and even seems out of character, for whatever reason. But I don't think any of the other proposed solutions would've done any differently or better? The Court of Public Opinion is always messy and messed up, but we have to just be true to ourselves do what we believe is right and whatever happens unfortunately happens. We can't affect what people choose to think, short of manipulating them, and from what I can see every version of solution presented here for Peter's problem is just another version of the core issue, "manipulating them."

[@julianmcmillan2867]

I think Professor Hulk could've stood up for him. He did become popular after the aftermath of Infinity War. He could've thrown Peter some clout and sponsored him and helped to explain the situation with Mysterio. Sure some wouldn't believe it, but I think you'd change a few minds if you have an avenger who is also a favourite of the public advocating for you.

[@maverick8331]

1) he was definitely worried about reprisal, from Wong. He even mentioned it. This is why he didn't enlist the help of other sorcerers. 2) maybe "sorcerer supreme" is like the darksaber, you can't just GIVE it to someone. It can only be obtained after the previous title holder passes on. (Leading to Wong's likely death in multiverse of madness)

[@kenjohns1982]

My theory about Wong still being the Sorcerer Supreme: we need a good tear jerk moment in Multiverse of Madness, hence Wong dies so Stephen takes over again. It will be the first big, "oh no" moment of the movie.

[@thatspideyguy8642]

If anything I have learnt in life is, it doesn't matter who messed up. A mess has been made, who's in to clean it up?

[@jss42antonio]

When he asked where Wong was and they showed him getting drunk 😂😂

[@chaunceyhaworth4884]

I totally enjoyed the movie, but I had the exact same issues with Strange's character. When characters change to much it turns into soap opera acting.

[@drunkcrazy187]

really captian obvious nobody would have ever thought of this your amazing dont know what we would do without you

[@DdeathDrone]

Something to consider is empathy, strange feels responsible for peter since tonys death and feels bad for peter losing his father figure/mentor also strange took a risk but it wasnt an irresponsible risk, it should have been planned more but he had saftey measures in place that peter PREVENETED.

[@Bear1854]

"The Bill Comes Due". Yes, your right he knew it all along. Thanks Brother, great stuff as always!

[@khandimahn9687]

Both Strange and Peter share responsibility. Sure, through the movie, Strange places a lot of the blame on Peter, but I think a lot of that was him projecting. He knew he screwed up. But there was an emergency and he didn't have the time to reflect and think about his role in events. Now that he's had some time to cool off, I believe we will see him be a lot more introspective in Multiverse of Madness.

[@LawMom6]

Peter was a teen with an undeveloped prefrontal cortex and limited executive function and decision-making capabilities. You would think a neurosurgeon would get that.

[@syedumarali23]

Thanks to strange We saw all spideys together That's enough for me, lol

[@cactusbricks4728]

Hello screencrush im from the philippines and the movie is may 4 here so thanks for this

[@jedinova67]

I've mulled this very thing in my head and came to some of the same conclusions as you. And the only thing that makes sense for strange to perform this spell is that it's not our strange but actually the evil strange that somehow took the identity of our Dr strange. He needed that particular spell but also a reason to produce said spell.

[@The_Infamous_Boogyman]

Couldn't strange have cast a "shut the hell up" spell? Either way, we needed it to happen to make the movie work

[@ravey69]

Perfect example of "not everyone is perfect" , not even one of the Earth's mightiest superhero

[@TrollBot.]

Im pretty sure Loki is the responsible one or better yet Sylvie!

[@Matt00ias]

Great video 👍🏻

[@stateovzehn4292]

Many of these reasons are points I hope are brought up in Multiverse of Madness 🤔 I can't wait to see where the MCU goes from here

[@rognema]

This is why I love this channel bro. This is why. 🤗😻😊

[@MooneShadow]

To quote Kevin Feigy "the problem started with loki and sylvie unleashing Kang (He who remaines) and allowing for the spell to happen in No way home. It's all there for you to discover"

[@SPACEKNOCKERZ76]

I need the new movie to touch on why he made those decisions.

[@JeremyWilliamson]

[2:00] yeah but PETER said something about Math being able to out-do magic in that mirror dimension situation he was in. Peter might not know magic, but he knows how to work around it.

[@NZWyvern]

As soon as I saw the depiction of Strange in a trailer for this movie, I immediately went to variant of him. It just seemed to fit with the timing of Loki and What if?

[@gabrielaganon3160]

i have a feeling all of the points you bring up are gonna be a part of his 2nd wake-up call the 1st movie is his wake-up call from being an arrogant surgeon. the upcoming movie will be his wake-up call to being a more responsible sorcerer.

[@deleted01]

"I mean, this guy fought Thanos. He beat your mom." 12:05

[@franktfrisby]

those "5 minutes later" hurt lol.

[@FacelessPropaganda]

I think we will all find out what happened at the full moon party at Kamar-Taj in Werewolf by Moonlight! 0.o

[@stevenbieler]

Wong seems oblivious to most things. Starting with Steven stealing the books right in front of him.

[@jimbubbatube]

I was definitely thinking Strange should have explained things better before he started casting the first spell. It’s not like they were in a rush or anything. Great breakdown!

[@zemoxian]

Is anyone going to acknowledge Lady Loki’s role in this mess? If the spell was cast before the sacred timeline started unraveling, would the same thing have occurred? We have know idea if Strange knows the multiverse just changed.

[@adriennephilips5434]

When Peter first visits Dr. Strange (21 minutes in) he says it’s not about him, but his actions hurt a lot of people, “my aunt, Happy, my girlfriend, my best friend”. Right after Wong says, “He’s good at forgetting things..”. Peter literally named everyone who means something to him. Dr. Strange casts his spell and only “remembers” when Peter repeats who he wants who he’d like to still know he’s Spider-Man. I’d say the good Doctor could have been more thorough when vetting exactly what Peter wanted.

[@Jermaine086]

This makes so much sense

[@martybarron816]

Great video

[@samuelsmith6820]

Plot hole:I thought spider man's webs only lasted 2 hours. How was Steven trapped for 12 in the mirror dimension?

[@Maria-bb8rv]

yeah but he didn't have his sling ring to get out yk

[@yoyomayne]

@@Maria-bb8rv he should still be able to get out as he can summon the mirror dimension without it like he did at the beginning of their fight

[@Maria-bb8rv]

@@yoyomayne he had it on whith the mirror dymentchon I think I do not remember but there is a difference between a portal and a mirror dymentchon

[@PTRMAN]

Very insightful, and a lot of good points. But what does Doug say?

[@ThatGuy-cf7qu]

Great breakdown!!!

[@nicksproductions100]

I love how Wong always is the one to teach us about all these spells the way he does. I ain’t no magician

[@marcosmatheus1560]

Yeah, I never thought Dr. Strange casting the spell really made a lot of sense.

[@TheGr8tPlays]

After watching this whole video i must say, Ryan you are the elitist when it comes to video breakdowns, personal gatherings of facts, and presentation!🙌🏾 This hypes me up even more to watch Multiverse of Madness and now i have my own *Fan Theory* Since Dr Strange has shown us a pretty good indictation that he acts irresponsible with his powers, it may be a good reason that the Dr Strange in No Way Home was from another universe. This could of happened when he blipped and since because he was the Supreme at the time there could of been other versions of Strange that blipped at the same time and went to other universes. What If in MOM (Multiverse Of Madness) it goes over that factor somehow? Overall he could be another Strange or Ryan is right and its actually Mephisto.!?(Which would be a great setup for introducing the Ghost Rider/Blade universe anyway so id love it)

[@darkstarplays6315]

This movie could have ramifications going back to endgame, rewatch it and listen to the exact words The Ancient One uses when explaining to Banner about removing a stone

[@poulomibhattacharya7105]

1st 10 seconds I'm laughing in an audibly in a public place 🤣🤣🤣

[@Moeed88]

Question: How does the memory loss spell work in the end? Everyone who knew spiderman (or his true identity) is coming to MCU. Strange casts a memory loss spell to stop them from coming Does that mean that in all of the multi verse now, no one knows spiderman's true identity or no one knows Peter Parker? How does that explain that other Peters are not coming here because they have this knowledge too (of themselves and spiderman's identity)

[@Stardust_7273]

That's one of my major issues with the movie (of only a few, since I do love the movie)-- they (Dr. S and Peter) never discussed the exact implications, that's why Peter has all those requests and questions AFTER Dr. S starts casting. And it isn't JUST because he was rejected by MIT. There was so much more to it.

[@braindead4319]

I agree. Now, after the second spell, would that make all of the multiverse forget Peter? Seems like it would. What would that mean for the other Peters? Tobey would be bummed for sure. Does the spell eventually play a role in or lead to the events of Doctor Strange 2?

[@mikeedwards4546]

its crazy we had a whole spiderman franchise before getting a dr strange sequel damn.

[@JayJay_2531]

So basically it's wrong for Strange bc he used magic to erase memories of millions of ppl about Spiderman but it's fine for Mysterio affecting the same amount of ppl (those new about Peter) by painting him as a Villain by using the media.

[@TheFallen3]

Bro gave us more movies. He definitely made the right choice.

[@Raagasammysam]

Maybe this is the only moment of multiverse which HWR was talking about. Kang's death might be the main reason for the actions of every individual's action which would lead to the multiversal madness especially dr strange being the only factor for the multiverse phenomenon.

[@gabeheartz13saravia97]

7:53 That’s what I was thinking!!!

[@lexruptor]

I think what it all boils down to is that the script just wasn't accurate to the Strange we know following Strange 1 and Endgame. They treated him like Strange 1 version, dismissing his growth by the end and his further growth from Endgame.

[@gabbdrg]

Ryan you make a lot of great points and I agree with them all. The way Dr. Strange was written in No Way Home really bothered me too and I felt like he was acting out of character. My theory to why, is because he might be a variant or a Skrull ( this one is a bit reaching). I have my reservations about how the MCU is handling the Multi Verse and I am hoping it is not the fix all for certain things; mainly explaining how other characters from other studio movies can exist in the MCU and becoming the reset button for things. Marvel has been focusing so much on the Multi Verse, that is seems to over power good story telling, which is why there are certain issues with No Way Home. I enjoyed No Way Home and loved a lot of things about it, but going back to Dr. Strange, he was not written well and it did feel a little bit of back sliding his character. Maybe the new Dr. Strange movie will provide some answers and explain why his character is so different? I have low expectations for the new Dr. Strange movie, which is sad because Dr. Strange is one of my all time favorite Marvel characters. As great as the concept of the multiverse is, it is also to easy for things to become convoluted and over crowded. There are lot of stories and threads that MCU has laid out and it is going to be an interesting ride to see how they all pan out. As great as it is for everything to connect, I question does it really have too? Can't some stories exist on there own and maybe there is a small thing that connects to a big thing. That is one of the reasons why I enjoy Moon Knight, because it is a self contained story that exist in the MCU with out the need to make forced connections. I do think the show is helping setup other story lines, specifically the supernatural stuff, but I don't see Moon Knight working with the Avengers and that is not a bad thing. I trust Kevin Feige and I am sure there is a plan in motion and like all big story arcs, some of this movies and shows play a small part to the bigger picture, I just hope it doesn't get away from good story telling.

[@LonestarEventPro]

We need a tv series on what happened at the Full Moon Party...

[@Zero_Kool_Aid]

Ugh! Thank you! Why isn't Strange Sorcerer Supreme?! Been trying to figure out that plot for a minute. Like, where the hell are they going with it...

[@Falco.exe93]

I don't know if you got to see the new movie early... but you absolutely called it

[@DaCloudySunnyDay]

Tony's Mobius strip time travel idea makes this madness part of the timeline. Its a nexus event that's why Aunt May said those words, it was for a reason. The time line is intact, the time heist is part of it. Dr. Strange knows this is part of the timeline.