MD vs DO: What’s the difference & which is better?

[@whatsnextnora]

I stopped eating apples because of him.

[@yas.s.]

Why? :o

[@annika9953]

Yasmim “an apple a day keeps the doctor away” hope that helps

[@keloradee7216]

Annika 😂😂😂😂❤️

[@nitroxide17]

LOL

[@ananyaupadhya1974]

Best comment 😂😂😂

[@theautisticguitarist7560]

You thought I was an M.D.... BUT IT WAS ME, D.O.

[@KaliTakumi]

KONO D.O. DA

[@c.a1019]

Best comment

[@FairinArt]

WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@superduperjoi6800]

I'm confused

[@FairinArt]

@@superduperjoi6800 its a Jojo's Bizarre adventure reference

[@alexacabello9625]

Me, an intellectual MD- *Medical Doctor* DO- *Doctor*

[@latunen5241]

Lmao😂

[@bilgegunlu3229]

Same 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@morganalayna4247]

Alexa Cabello me too😂

[@heartcomedy5]

Alexa Cabello, DO is doctor of Osteopathic medicine. It’s a more holistic approach to medicine meaning that a major focus of osteopathic medicine is the body healing itself.

[@alexacabello9625]

Dr. Q bahah I know but sometimes I dont think! Thankssss ♥️

[@pinguino123698745]

*breaks her neck* - how do you feel? - I feel great: all pain is gone, all sorrow is gone, forever.

[@abyss_mage8822]

Omg I subscribed

[@abyss_mage8822]

Lol

[@TheMastertbc]

I cant see anything

[@Trthsker24]

Too funny

[@ninacohen5401]

I'm surprised he used a chiropractic technique of fast velocity. OMT treatments are slower and the patient 'pushes' against the doctor's hands for 15 second increments. Dr. Mike should really make a video to show us genuine OMT techniques. It really alleviates muscle spasms/neck crics... Maybe OMT demos are elsewhere in KZbin land.

[@nightangel3578]

Giiiiiiiiiiiirl....... If he cracked my neck or whatever I'd probably propose. Who the hell am I talking to?

[@PrincePalmUwU]

Best comment ever! lmao

[@ananyaupadhya1974]

@@avirao7580 are they still together?

[@averageconcertenjoyer]

@@ananyaupadhya1974 Clearly

[@TheCriminalViolin]

Had a long time chiropractor who always did that, though it was heavy on using things like heat packs to relax the muscles as much as possible before beginning the realignments. He'd always refer to it as Popcorn, and then tsk tsk you after for it meaning you haven't been properly moving your body, and likely have been slouching haha. It was always intimidating for me as it's so damn abrupt and hard. But then that meant I could never truly relax, having my muscles always maintain a slight tensity.

[@Coco-chrispy]

Lmaoooo

[@maceyjohnson6035]

Dr. Mike: "low-risk, conservative measure" Also Dr. Mike: *snaps her neck*

[@rituparikh2255]

My man out here decapitating people. We'll let it slide tho, we'll let it slide 😍

[@bloxtonreports6293]

💀💀

[@anthonypena955]

I will never trust another person enough to let them snap my neck like that. The survival instincts are too strong. Might as well be trying to shoot an apple off my head with an arrow. Nope.

[@heatherknight546]

My neurologist is a DO. I love him a lot. First neurologist I’ve ever felt respected by.

[@lizzyd5158]

Heather Knight Same...

[@alfredhitchcock45]

Great to hear that! Medical doctors are very dismissive and impatient. Always shooing you away. Wanting to charge exorbitant fees for just 5 mins of their time. I don't mind paying if he's going to cure me. Not just make money on me.

[@eliasdavidreyes8611]

@@alfredhitchcock45 so true, like when when I go to mcdonalds Im just hungry, and all they want its my money

[@epitaphboi4816]

Daavid Niñodejesus I see you tried sounding smart and sarcastic, but you failed. Fool

[@KrypticKiss18]

Feels great to hear this as a future DO student who wants to be a neurologist 😁

[@crystgh]

Watching this after the FIGS ad about DO’s in the pink scrubs

[@bruceylee8670]

DOs students are less competitive, and usually take the DO route when not able to achieve admission into MD school. This stigma persists throughout each step of their career Doesnt mean they cant be great clinicians tho!! But their training is usually less than MDs

[@collinssmith872]

@@bruceylee8670 this couldn’t be further from the truth!! DOs and MDs have the same exact training except DOs have additional training in the musculoskeletal system. The NBOME (DO) and ACGME (MD) actually just merged this year. Watch the video lol.

[@bruceylee8670]

@@collinssmith872 The merger is for post graduate (residency) training. DO and MD schools are not accredited by the same body. There are differences in opportunities and training prior to entering residency, otherwise PDs would not be biased against DOs. If you look at top residency programs, there are generally no DOs

[@collinssmith872]

@@bruceylee8670 in July this year, the first step of the merger means 1) that step 1 is now pass/fail which is taken between years 2-3, not post grad, and 2) DOs can get into any MD residencies and MDs can get into any DO residencies. My dad is a DO neurosurgeon, I also know another female DO neurosurgeon, a DO cardiovascular surgeon and many other talented physicians/surgeons that are DOs in what some would call “MD positions.” They’re all physicians. All capable of providing quality, evidence-based care.

[@bruceylee8670]

@@collinssmith872 Yes you are correct, Im not arguing that DOs cannot be great clinicians, as demonstrated by your father and his colleagues. I am saying that it would be disingenuous to state that statistically DO students have the same # of opportunities as their MD counterparts, as many PDs at top research institutions unfortunately still favor MDs over DOs. With the merger, this could potentially relegate DOs to more primary care specialties (nothing wrong with that). Maybe your father and his colleagues trained at previously AOA residencies

[@natsuyama7333]

Now, I decided my mind to what I wanna become. It's MG (Mike's girl.)

[@TheAsfasdfsdf]

eff 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sofiacosta6817]

Lmfao

[@va_lee_ree]

Dead!!!😂

[@MariaGerasimovabreeze]

I guess I already am :o - MG initial's, and - a Dr Mike's girl (just a different Mike lol).

[@eleanorhayward7706]

Eleanor Hayward fact

[@emgoodluck416]

Omg I could not do that neck cracking thing .. that’s scary as hellll

[@emperortbw402]

Don't worry, the doctor does most of the work.

[@Evan.the.Butler]

I've had it done to me, and while it looks scary, it doesn't feel that way. Similar to cracking your knuckles, but it's your neck instead (idk if that's actually what it is, that's just what it feels like).

[@ilyaibrahimovic9842]

If you were the patient you wouldn't do it. The physician does it to you.

[@icarussky7176]

@@Evan.the.Butler that's exactly what it is. Theres no actual cracking going. Its what we call a cavitation which is a release of gas, same as your knuckles and also feels amazing when you have neck pain.

[@DoctorFashion]

Doctor Mike I must say you have some amazing content on your channel.. I'm glad I came across your page... Im sure in the future my channel will pivot and have more science/medicine related content ... your channel is GOAAAAALS! lol. keep it up!

[@eumarise8272]

You're going great!

[@raralawich7881]

Wise

[@autumnlily5555]

My doctor is a D.O and she’s amazing. She’s the best doctor I’ve ever had and I plan to stick with her as my primary physician as long as I can. She actually takes her time and never feel like she rushing like other doctors.

[@DoctorMike]

So happy to hear about your experience Lily! You should show her this video =]

[@alfredhitchcock45]

We have the same feeling with most doctors. They just keep on rushing you and excited to bill you. I even went to clinics with TV and the doctor was angry because he was watching volleyball. Most doctors are rude, insensitive and apathetic. It's all $$$ for them.

[@adrianlauer]

Lily I also have a DO as my primary care provider and mine as well takes her time to help and not just rush examinations.

[@MultiDraco999]

@@alfredhitchcock45 there are easier options for money, medical practitioners have the same goal. To help people.

[@happiness839]

@@alfredhitchcock45 Tell me about it. Go to a specialist doing private practice where I'm at. This happens often: Length of visit: 10 min Price: 200 pln Now if the specialist has 11 patients in one day, they just made 2,200. Minimum wage here is 2363 pln after taxes (year 2022).

[@miloradvlaovic]

1:10 Well if someone did that to me, I think my head would full on detach and remain in their hands. I flinched watching that tbh lol

[@haninditabudhi6574]

I thought he was going to finish her off with that move 😩😩

[@NethDugan]

I’m European and still confused by this. So confused.

[@superduperjoi6800]

Lol America is confusing imaging being s DPT or a DOT

[@MrVipasana]

We didn’t have woo woo alternatives to MDs in places like France or the UK. Having said that the DOs are now essentially MDs. They have started teaching and practicing actual medicine. Only real difference now is the letters following the name, and DOs stillest learn the largely woo woo art of “adjustment”.

[@stma05]

As a Canadian I am confused by this lol

[@janosvarga962]

DO bsc MD msc . High doctor shortage in us so they made a bars lower and got fancy name. Still MDs are the real doctors.

[@latunen5241]

Hello fellow europian

[@w00tse]

I just got my MD in Austria. I had no idea about the DO title in the USA until I saw this video. Thank you for this video and your other medically accurate and well researched content!

[@STAY_hey_yeah]

How much did the course cost ._.

[@ellinmara5997]

@@STAY_hey_yeah Most state-funded universities in Austria do not charge you any tuition fees at all. Some Universities of Applied Sciences charge about 700€ per year, though you cannot study medicine there (only e.g. physical therapy). Private universities are more expensive, naturally... At any rate, if your parents don't earn enough to get you through your education, you can get up to 700€ per month from the state.

[@emam2715]

@@ellinmara5997 are you able to practice in the united states if you go abroad to get your md in the EU?

[@ellinmara5997]

@@emam2715 I have absolutely no idea. The other way round is impossible I think, but that is because Austria is often needlessly strict about recognizing degrees from abroad.

[@emam2715]

@@ellinmara5997 really?! huh that’s interesting .. i was always taught that MD’s from the US are recognized globally!

[@StrongMed]

PSA: Most MDs are also fans of "treating the patient as a whole".

[@DoctorMike]

I emphasized that point within the video. Also, this is a relatively new concept in M.D. education that was rightfully incorporated into curriculums within the last decade or so. Thank you for watching Dr. Strong.

[@ObsessedPersonality]

“the good physician treats the disease; the great physician treats the patient who has the disease...” - William Osler. We quote William Osler all the time and he lived in the late 1800's. If you had stated MD's have a history of "paternalism" I would whole heartedly agree with you, we've radically shifted toward patient-centred care. But paternalistic medicine doesn't mean that physician didn't treat the patient as a whole. But to suggest that MD training doesn't involve "treating the patient as a whole" is conjecture. There's a reason taking a thorough patient history including their social determinants of health is still emphasized in medical school. Can you please cite where you found that the incorporation of "treating patients as a whole" only occurred within the last decade or so?

[@koibee2451]

YoursTruly we're leaving the long essays in the comment section in 2017, go make a response video or something Happy New year!

[@gia3586]

Doctor Mike can you do a video on what you know about Caribbean medical schools? Like St. George’s University?

[@brianwingel2570]

Koi Bee if you don't like the length of someone's comment I found a great life hack which is just ignore it and don't read it.

[@chanelenergy5457]

no one- me while not wearing my glasses- *trying to figure out of the woman is a mannequin*

[@ChronicCraftyLife]

A D.O. resident delivered my 2nd child (military hospital) and I was SO thankful I got him because my pelvis dislocated during pregnancy and he could put it back in! #EhlersDanlos

[@kiyoponnn]

You're a pretty shitty human being, why would you have children knowing that they have a chance of inheriting Ehlers-Danlos syndrome and suffering because of it? You only think of yourself.

[@tracyhue23]

I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. Glad you had the right people around you. On a side note, my daughter has EDS. It's been a ride figuring it out and waiting on a visit to the geneticist.

[@Lionforaday]

@@kiyoponnn Dear Infinite Judgment. First of all, she may have discovered she had EDS after having children. A patient of mine was only diagnosed in her 50s, when her daughter figured-out she had it. And if the OP did know - have you never heard of IVF? People with all kinds of conditions are able to have children without the risk of passing on the condition, by genetically testing and selecting embryos without the disorder. And BTW, my patients with EDS, though they have challenges, are still glad to be alive. Your post was infinitely short-sighted.

[@kiyoponnn]

@@Lionforaday lol

[@user-lm5sb5vl9s]

@@kiyoponnn piss off with your eugenic bullshit

[@ViolinMD]

Fantastic video!! So clear and concise - your videos keep getting better! We don't have any DO training programs in Canada and I was never clear on the difference!

[@ashleyh8352]

I wish we did!!! I love the DO philosophy!

[@marcelinoa.megantara8757]

Violin MD wow you're here too XD I also love dr Mike channel besides yours.. you both are amazing

[@Avaldemon]

Keep it that way, Canada. Don't let woo-woo spread. The idea that the body can be cured by manipulation has never been proven in any scientific journal and is essentially woo-woo.

[@fiveelevenevan]

@@Avaldemon You can't make a statement like that with no evidence. There are many recorded cases of OMT/OMM helping people with back pain, etc. Please do some research

[@ilyaibrahimovic9842]

@@Avaldemon Doesn't take a specialist to understand that manipulations of the skeletomuscular system can improve, at the very least, functioning of that same system. And as someone who has received manipulations before, I can testify that they're not magic or cure-alls but they do what knowledgeable and responsible physicians use them to do.

[@MASON92J]

TLDR- MD: Doctor DO: Doctor

[@Ca_1021]

I really love that you pointed out the importance of bedside manners with a patient. Great video!

[@DoctorMike]

It's one of those factors that often overlooked when speaking of a doctors ability. We usually talk about knowledge but if you can't relate to your patient or get them to understand their illness/treatment knowledge sort of becomes useless =/

[@Ca_1021]

Absolutely!

[@ceecee7879]

Cassidy i LLLLOOOVVEEEDD my DO for that exact reason. Unfortunately, for health reasons, he had to retire and I refuse to go to the MD. I see the PA, now. WAAAAAAHHHH!

[@thehorrormonster]

What are bedside manners ??? Can someone explain please

[@BhappyD]

Horror Monster Bedise manner refers to how a doctor behaves, communicates, and interacts with their patients. If a doctor has a good bedside manner they will be friendly, kind, caring, understanding, take time to listen to the patient without rushing them, and show genuine empathy towards the patient. However, a doctor with a poor bedside manner could be arrogant, dismissive, overly abrupt, condescending, spends little time with/rushes the patient, shows a lack of empathy, and doesn't listen to the patient and their concerns.

[@dr.g.k.chilupe9479]

OH MY GOSH!!!! I've been watching your videos all this time and had no idea you were a D.O.! As a third year osteopathic student this makes my little OMS heart happy

[@JobiWan144]

Doesn't it say "D.O." on his shirt sometimes?

[@brownuncle7180]

Lifthil Not until quite recently. This was 2 years back when he was still new and not everyone watched his Premed video.

[@vedangbandekar9843]

Hey how's it going?

[@dr.g.k.chilupe9479]

@@vedangbandekar9843 going well. Officially in residency

[@dr.g.k.chilupe9479]

@@JobiWan144 either way, when I see a doctor, especially a popular one I assume an MD

[@jesusdiedforme1000]

Thanks for taking the time to make this video, Dr. Mike! I was recently accepted and will be attending V.C.O.M. in the fall of 2019. I am so excited to start my career as a physician! I am always hearing different stigmas of D.O.'s and M.D.'s but in my opinion, like yours, the difference is becoming so small between the two that it really makes no difference. We are all learning to treat the patient behind the disease and that is what counts at the end of the day rather than the letters behind the name. As some of my mentors have said, "treat the patient, not the monitor".

[@Theveganlaowai]

I hope that means you’re finishing up med school now ! I hope it all went well for you ☺️

[@Panashe]

Doctor Mike is the only youtuber I look forward to watching everyday

[@babylo-fi3556]

Ok but I don’t like being touched lmao

[@bobburns3152]

Dr. MIKE. Just want to say thank you. If it wasn't for this video. I wouldn't have found out about OMM. After 10+ years of being told "No" because chiropractors are not covered by insurance, I thought my spine would never get fixed. But because of you, I was spurred on to find a DO in network that does OMM/OMT. Sure enough I found one, got the Green light from my GP. Now after 2-3 months, with just 4 treatments, my spine is roughly 55 - 60% Better. Just want to say thank you, because even though you don't know me. You have helped me in ways I never thought anyone would.

[@nini0033]

As a european, this was really instructive. I was certain that DOs weren't actually medical practitioners but you just proved me wrong

[@weirdo-gj5xz]

osteopathic medicine, not to be confused with osteopathy

[@crimansizers5840]

Do keep in mind osteopathic medicine is unique to the USA. Foreign osteopaths are not the same as osteopathic physicians. In the USA: DO = "Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine" (whereas MD is "Doctor of Allopathic Medicine" or just "Doctor of Medicine") DO = MD + OMM Outside of the USA: DO = "Diploma of Osteopathy" MD =/= Osteopath

[@tomashalusek9181]

you could have used google really if that was such a field of interest to you.

[@TheEdupedu67]

Omg u broke her neck hahaha

[@Amethisko]

exactly XD when he did that I stared at the screen for 20 seconds, horrified, with the video on pause. I'm not sure if I would let someone do that to me xD Seriously though, how hard is it to slip and break somebody's neck?

[@jo-vf8jx]

Erik Angelion My chiropractor does that to my neck and when he does OMG am I in heaven. I have cervical radiculopathy and it feels so wonderful when I get my neck adjusted.

[@DarrynJones]

Wow, I've never head of a DO before. I'm Australian, all our doctors are what you described as MD. Here, an osteopath is more like a philosophically-different chiropractor. Maybe we should get DO's as well, sounds like we'd benefit from them.

[@rafaelaforgiarini1417]

Same here in Brazil :(

[@rafaelaforgiarini1417]

@Zenon Ingalunda got it, thanks! I wish there were universities offering DO degrees in Brazil too.

[@ArtamStudio]

In the US, Chiros are a completely different thing - much less regulation, some good ones but many are not. Like MDs, DOs have hospital privileges. I've never met a Chiro who has been allowed to practice medicine in a hospital or medical clinic. A DO is the best of both worlds, IMO.

[@zackgro8440]

they're the same here

[@zackgro8440]

@@excalibur800 incorrect you do not understand licensure or pathway thank you for your time but wrong

[@RagebrosINC]

You snapped her neck and she laughed??!?!?! Freaking skynet!!!!!

[@njain1091]

Wow, this video just made my job easier in explaining to people the difference between DOs and MDs. Here in the South, people are gradually warming up to osteopathy, so it's a daily task explaining to patients and my MD colleagues what the osteopathic philosophy entails. Keep up the great work!

[@reeceyreece4486]

Hey, Dr. Mike I was wondering if you could go over medical error being the third leading cause of death in America? Not asking this in a disrespectful way at all, it just took me by surprise when I saw it.

[@casualuser5527]

Not true.

[@Beautifullydifferent]

I had always wondered what the difference between the two were. I've been treated by both and didn't have a problem with either.

[@deejourneyz_]

Do both D.O's and MD'S perform surgery

[@DoctorMike]

Yes!

[@Rgsetters]

Doctor Mike, show me the paper that shows osteopathy is effective in treating congestive heart failure?

[@taiefmiah]

I don't believe any of them do though. They aren't chiropractors. Most of these body manipulation stuff they do now is basically targeted muscle massages and physio to a degree

[@RavenBlaze]

I sling coffee for a living an a DO-med student has fixed my sacrum, my back, and even helped me figure out how to adjust my shoes so my sacrum does not bend out of place and hurt.

[@orichidiu]

Omg! You snapped that lady's neck and she said "Haha, Feels Good" 😲

[@KeangpgmerlYT]

I really want to try that!!

[@bangtanbts5699]

walter weaver she is her girlfriend

[@orichidiu]

😂😂only a joke and I know about his GF :) Beautiful people

[@Inamichan]

It’s just like cracking your knuckles!

[@lilypad1501]

walter weaver I thought he killed her lol

[@dinazwitscher9872]

He prepared this three years ago for the MD DO Drama about Trumps physician lol

[@manueljunior8858]

1:11 i was scared for the woman

[@Luvliaa]

All of a sudden i broke my leg watching this video😩

[@DoctorMike]

+QueenLee sounds like you need a Doctor :)

[@Luvliaa]

Limitless Tv no its ok he can be my doctor

[@a.d.65]

That's he

[@Wraithknight2]

Sounds like you need some physical therapy after a doctor sets that bone :)

[@thetrollpatrol8799]

I think Mike broke that girl's neck too

[@theglamoroushome6500]

My ob/gyn is an DO and is the best doctor I’ve ever had. He’s so calm, listens and treats you like a friend, if it wasn’t for him I would of had a horrible time having my son like I did with my daughter.

[@swanlilly100]

Would have**

[@ClassyKites34]

Woof, reading the comments here I feel like people either didn't watch the video at all, or they are so biased against DOs to begin with, they refused to listen to what you were saying. I might suggest making a follow-up video where you further clarify some of the finer points for the mouthbreathers in the comments who evidently couldn't follow a simple, 4-minute video to begin with. To clarify: -Holistic =/= homeopathic. "Holistic approach" and "scientific approach" are NOT mutually exclusive. -Chiropractry =/= OMT, and OMT is something that a lot of DOs don't actually end up using in their day to day practice. Psychiatrists/pathologists/orthopods/ER docs/most other specialty DOs are likely going to be pretty indistinguishable from an MD in the way that they practice. Also, DOs do not believe that spinal manipulations "cure cardiovascular disease". I think that point became a bit muddled in your presentation. -DOs are board certified physicians, just like MDs. And if a DO chooses to apply to ACGME residencies, they take 2 tests, both the COMLEX and USMLE, extra work they are taking upon themselves to be more competitive (but as you said, this whole system will merge by 2020). -Yes, DO schools do tend to accept more non-traditional students with slightly lower average test scores, but this doesn't speak to the rigor of the education that they provide to those students. DOs go through 4 years of med school, and 3-7 years of residency (+ fellowships) just like MDs. The osteopathic process weeds out students who are not "cut out" to practice medicine, just like the allopathic process. -Most people have probably been treated by several DOs throughout their life without even realizing it. If you've ever been to the ER, or a walk-in clinic, this is probably especially true. But guess what? Your OBGYN, your dermatologist, your orthopedic surgeon, your anesthesiologist, maybe even your neurosurgeon may very well be a DO. If you want some real insight into the "quality" of your physician, ask where they did their residency. The letters behind their name are not an automatic indication of their quality or abilities. Some great MD schools graduate some mediocre physicians and some mediocre MD schools create some amazing physicians. The same can be said about DO schools as well.

[@justpractice]

well said.

[@Solliel]

I'll agree to everything you've said but OMT is straight-up pseudo-science. sciencebasedmedicine.org/osteopathy-in-the-nicu-false-claims-and-false-dichotomies/

[@SlappyGomez]

ClassyKites34 wrong and wrong and wrong.

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

No - only in the USA. The rest of the western world, we recognise that suggesting that osteopathy, which is pure pseudoscience, can treat Congestive Heart Failure, is pure bunkum and outright quackery. That's why we don't let osteopaths have the same positions as MDs, and we don't let naturopaths act as GPs. Because they practice things that at best are purely placebo and at worst are downright dangerous.

[@travishutton9750]

Solliel, upon reading the article you have so kindly provided for everyone I realized that we should question the authors ability to reason with his own words. He even gives us a scientific study! And even states that there have been lots of studies done just like it so it wasn’t really special because they all had the same results. Then, this doctor immediately says that it’s a pseudoscience. I’m confused as to how someone can present evidence, present results, state that it’s repeatable and has been repeated, and then say that it’s bullshit. Ya ever heard of someone named... ken ham. He does the same thing with creationism. These kinds of people at the front of science are dangerous! You cannot ignore the evidence! Come on man.

[@ivaclare4965]

Thank you for another info doctor Mike! This is so educational. People have to be aware of this. Have a great day!

[@shaygill5260]

as an M.D. student, agreed with everything here good video and informative, except it is NOT “more competetive to get into a D.O. school” than an allopathic institution, at the most you could say it’s equal, and more accurately it is still more competetive to become an M.D. than a D.O. Cheers.

[@NO1xANIMExFAN]

yes its not more competitive, i think what he meant to say is that based on acceptance rate alone DO schools have lower acceptance rates. but the hard stats indicate that MD matriculation is more competetive

[@TheBalls55]

I've been a DO for 25 years. My colleagues and I helped open doors at top residency programs.

[@PhoenixRoseYT]

TheBalls55 goals!

[@ingsve]

I didn't know they still employed doormen.

[@NghiaLe-ff2lr]

As a future DO student, our generation is greatly thankful for your contribution in evening the playing ground between DO and MD

[@Gamebreaker08]

You should’ve went to the Caribbean and got the MD

[@TheBalls55]

@@Gamebreaker08 No thanks

[@DocMustafa]

Dang it Dr. Mike, you stole my idea of being a doctor and a youtuber. Oh well, Once I become well known on KZbin, we can be rivals 👍

[@lohphat]

What is the scientific basis and where are the RCT data supporting spinal manipulation? Serious question. I've been treated by a chiropractor who made severe back pain disappear after one treatment. No gravy train, once a week, BS. I want to know why it worked. The pain was real, the relief was also real.

[@wildgoalie30]

lohphat idk your specific case but if the spine is out of alignment nerves can be pinched and irritated therefore not being able to communicate to muscles etc. causing pain. Chiropractor can adjust and straighten the spine or other joints which then allows for proper nerve function.

[@lohphat]

gerald gauss That’s the premise but there is ZERO clinical data confirming that is the action of efficacy. It’s marketing not data.

[@Dr_Matthews]

There isn’t any evidence, and there really needs to be. For every story like yours, there’s another like my sister who gets manipulations every week, feels good for like an hour, and then is right back to where she started. I’m wary of it because I’ve seen several cases in the emerg of people with vertebral artery dissections after neck manipulations. It’s a real risk, and I don’t think most people are well enough informed about it.

[@BernardoWLopes]

@@lohphat Neuromodulation. Look into it. I'm a Physiotherapist that's around a lot of modern Osteopaths (a lot of them were physios that crossed over) and we believe neuromodulatory effects to be the biggest reasons why manual therapy, as whole, at least for non traumatic pain, works. The biomechanic model of "putting things back in place," is slowly being put out of commission

[@brownuncle7180]

An osteopathic physician (DO) doesn’t have the knowledge to answer any of chiropractic questions or stuff related to physiotherapy. A D.O. legit just went to medical school and did regular classes. After classes on every Thursday at 3 PM, they had a 2 hour OMT lab session in the first four semesters of med schools. So we can answer all your doctor questions; but please stop bothering us about phsyio, chiropractic, and homeopathy bullcrap. We’re busy studying for the USMLEs and training in medical residencies. All this needs to go to the non-physician osteopath, physio, and naturopathic channels.

[@jesmariedayan]

Can you please be my doctor? 😍

[@sophisticatedlikedarkmatte863]

Karan I would hesitate between "I have a normal medical problem" and "I know you can treat me right, doc?" 😂😂😂

[@tplannister1020]

He can be my daddy !!

[@jesmariedayan]

YuhNinja First of all, I'm not 10 I'm 18 so yeah

[@51844mj]

He’s a cheater he cheated on his last gf don’t let looks fool you

[@danbott81]

KPOP*UNTIED*NATIONS lol

[@fansofdrmike5282]

Oh wow 😳. Wish didn’t read most of the comments here. So many hating on DOs. What’s the problem? DOs are licensed and legitimate doctors too who can help and treat people and save lives. Unless you’re in the business of doing the same, I think you should just take your hate elsewhere. It doesn’t help anyone!!

[@angeldogs4ellie]

My Dr. is a D.O. GREAT Dr. Provides excellent care!😊

[@Maddie9185]

Fans Of Dr Mike I love DO. My all time favorite doctor is a DO she’s a Great listener and communicator. I am having such a hard time finding another like her.

[@jadewindom68]

My sports and spine doctor is also a D.O. he is a GOD send😇 I get full body adjustments with no snap, crackle pop. I mostly see him for Parsonage Turner's Syndrome/brachial neuritis something I wish I knew nothing about. All alignments are done with muscle movements. His name is Anthony West @ swedish sports and spine in Seattle/Issaquah. Miracle worker. 🙌🙌🙌 I love 💓 my D.O. he's the best hands on doctor I've ever had. His approach is like no other doctor I've seen. I've seen lots since being rear ended by an 18 wheeler. The PTS is by far the worst pain I've dealt with and my D.O. puts my ribs back in place with such ease. Physical therapy was grueling....D.O. is much better.

[@TheCriminalViolin]

I can bet you it's because of the "Holistic" attachment. So many hardcore pro-conventionalists hate anything that seems remotely naturalistic and homeopathic, meaning holistic medicines to them are just as "hippy bullshit" to them.

[@adrianlauer]

My primary care provider is a DO, I get great care, and she is a great listener and communicator. As long as people get quality medical care I don't give a damn.

[@mayuri_mdk]

Hi Dr. Mike! I work for an EMR company. As a product trainer, I am expected not just to know how the software functions, but also about the medical industry. I wanna thank you for making such amazing videos. Although I don't directly work in the field of medicine, I like to keep myself updated with what's happening. And I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said I can rely on your videos. This video, for example answers a question I have had in my mind forever. And no, Google doesn't help! 😁 Thank you!

[@dannyboyrules8611]

I don't know why this showed up on my feed but I'm glad it did.

[@ErinLastNameRedacted]

My dad is an general/family medicine MD who works with DOs. He used to supervise a lot of DO students, too. They seem to get along quite well. There are benefits to both, I think.

[@VeVe02]

So basically your saying, lets all chooses Dr.Mike as our doctor! :) Great communication skills, knowledgeable, good bedside side manners, and lots of experience. 😄 ❤️

[@julian1259]

Honey, he's not a doctor.

[@clare2316]

Potato Gaming He is a doctor. MD and DO are fully trained doctors who can practice medicine in all 50 states. There is just a slight difference in the degree they choose.

[@Char-kd6bl]

@@julian1259 Honey, he is a doctor. He's a qualified physician that holds a professional doctoral degree. That's a doctor....

[@brownuncle7180]

Julian Do you want his UPIN (Unique Physician Identity Number)? We can give that to you. Non-doctors don’t have UPINs. Tho I seriously doubt he will give appointment to a d*ckhead like you.

[@gravityclarity]

@@julian1259 he is a doctor. Are you?

[@Ronaldooo47]

Oh my god I literally thought he snapped this girls neck and killed her 😂😂😂

[@Rakshasa1986]

Doctor Mike wins... ...heal-ality!!

[@swanlilly100]

So osteopathic doctor= MD + Chiropractor

[@justinabenson7229]

Makes sense if u kind of put it like that lol

[@EmilysDance1]

Exactly!!! Best of both worlds. A doctor who knows their stuff but will try the best, least invasive ways first!!! I love Osteopaths!!

[@taiefmiah]

Ehh, Not really chiropractor. They don't do the spine stuff from my understanding. Their tissue stuff is more about wholistic care in the forms of diet, physio etc. Like the neck twisting thing is alright for short term analgesic release, but most osteopaths I've met say that you don't want to do that regularly.

[@changster308]

I will be getting my DO in a few short months and that was a FANTASTIC comparison of the differences. I love that you explained the similarities are too numerous to mention. 90% of the doctors I worked with during my 3rd and 4th years were MDs.

[@AmirAli-gl4lj]

I'm currently a Freshman at NYU. Can you make a video explaining things that will make us a competitive applicant for DO or MD school?

[@PhoenixRoseYT]

Amir Ali GPA, MCAT, extracurriculars, shadowing, research, etc. You also have to fit in the time to be unique.

[@leandralyon5661]

I’m also a DO and an FM resident. I use this video to explain what I do to family and friends. Thank you for being a proud DO!

[@jonnyc2532]

D.O. means you know how to medically break someone's neck? Jk lol. Huge fan

[@mauricecooper9763]

You just made my Sunday brighter, buddy! You're the best doctor I know! You are the man...and my best friend!👍👍🙌🙌

[@DoctorMike]

Thanks Maurice =]

[@mauricecooper9763]

Doctor Mike You're welcome, Mike. I mean it. 👍👍

[@catzel1ps452]

Maurice Cooper pickle rick

[@mauricecooper9763]

Doctor Mike Happy Halloween, buddy!🎃👍👍

[@juanferestrada]

instead of ‘buddy’ I read ‘daddy’ and I was like same

[@Aogami20]

I'm a little nervous that DO and OMT is just a fancier word for Chiropractors. It's one of those things that a lot of people *want* to work but I worry that it's all derivative of that spinal subluxation nonsense that has no proof behind it. I'd be interested to see a video on the differences between what chriropractors do and OMT

[@SumireIsrafel]

Had the same thought, just seems like the usual rebranding chiropractic goes through every decade or so to try and worm its was back into the scientific community

[@Aogami20]

@@SumireIsrafel I mean I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if there's research now that shows it's effective and why. I know a lot of people who've had issues with chronic pain that have been helped by chiropractic and it can't all be placebo. I'd just like to know more about the accreditation and education a DO receives that makes it different from chiropractic

[@rosebottom9907]

Dr. Mike, I couldn't agree more. My women's health doc is a D. O. I was blessed with having her for both of my pregnancies, which were high risk. Furthermore, she found my cervical cancer very early on. She did a phenomenal job!

[@Khadija12300]

Hi. Could you please share the doctor’s name? I’m interested in going to her career path as well)

[@gisellehelaina5649]

So weird to see the difference between the UK and US medical systems, procrastinating medical student here 🙋🏼

[@ashabaliga2319]

That crack in the neck 😨...lucky gal btw 😁....

[@ashabaliga2319]

Karan what 😱😩

[@jakeroosenbloom]

Asha Baliga yep it's his girl

[@ashabaliga2319]

Jake Roosenbloom lucky gal indeed!

[@0CTR]

Take a deep breath *SNAP* Woops

[@ashabaliga2319]

0CTR 😄

[@samleistiko2783]

Who came here after Dr. Mike’s recent video on Trump’s COVID diagnosis? Crazy how consistent this man is. He always gives the facts. He tells it how it is

[@luckyjinxer]

Yeah... it's not so much what they technically do, but the fact that DOs are DOs because they couldn't get into MD programs...

[@beatrizgonzalez7862]

mikochondria would be a great name for your fans! 😁😂 I like how it's unique & fun lol just saw the collab vid

[@aakdoc2024]

I’m going to call BS on that it’s more competitive to get into DO school. Just a quick search shows that’s a lie. There’s a big gap between the two still. Again, doesn’t make a difference long term because if you’re a good doctor you’re a good doctor; regardless of schooling. But this video I feel wasn’t as truthful or good as other of his videos

[@javiera5499]

Well, that's a bit of ego bias... I agree with him that both MDs and DOs are very similar if not equal from a patient's point of view. BUT this video is REALLY misleading for pre med students, specially concerning residency applications. Statistically, the most competitive specialities are predominantly assigned to applicants with MD tittles rather than DOs. Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule, but good luck to DOs trying to match with plastic or neurosurgery...

[@feat.shanika]

He may me program wise: for example some may say Naturopathic Doctor or ND programs are harder and more competitive to get into then both MD and DO due to the lack of available programs. As there are more programs for MD than there are for DO and there are more programs for DO than there are for an ND

[@delafe]

Out of curiousity, how long ago did you stop accepting new patients? ;-) I can only imagine that you are in high demand. After this video I am going to look into getting a DO as my PCP.

[@Vousie]

1:10 Every time someone does that neck cracking thing, it looks like they're about to take the person's head off.

[@lilaznlisa101n3]

Most people on here who have such a negative perspective on D.O obviously have no experience with D.O doctors. My father who went to TCOM, a D.O school in Texas, is one of the best doctors i know. I grew up not knowing that there was a distinction between a D.O and a M.D because i just saw him as a doctor. Most of his friends are M.D (from the best medical school in our state) and they give him mad respect because they know what a great doctor he is. In addition, TCOM stats are just as good or even better than some M.D schools in our state, so don't make assumptions that all D.O doctors or school are crap. I know many D.O who have done great on their STEP and got into competitive residency (the same ones those "M.D" gets into). Those M.D who look down upon D.O are probably slightly insecure and in need of someone to feel superior to. I question some of ya'll motives for becoming a doctor if two letter can prevent you from being a doctor. In the end you can say all you want but D.O are just as successful as M.D, they get the same residency, and the same future so suck it haters.

[@lilsk8er813]

I'm a RN in an ED and my favorite doctor in the department is a D.O. Great attitude, and all around awesome to work with. Much respect to both M.Ds, and D.Os

[@alfredhitchcock45]

Doesn't fucking matter what the letters stand for. It's who can cure me. Plain and simple. I feel like doctors just wait for me to be in the ER. That's their common mindset. If you're not going to die yet, don't even bother to us.

[@belencita9526]

this comment is a year old but dam, well say 👏🏽

[@izzypfutzenreuter]

I just find osteopathic bullshit to be time consuming, more high maintenance, and require more sessions. For me, time is the most valuable resource, and making frequent appointments that would fit in my schedulr is a deal breaker. Either give me the meds or perform surgery. I don't trust people toucbing my person either.

[@bruceylee8670]

agreed. DO and DC share the same roots (same inventor), so there is some flaw in its foundation. Overall I prefer a MD, but think that a DO could be good for rehab or sports medicine

[@KeangpgmerlYT]

YAY!! New video BTW you inspired a 12 years old aka me one day to be a doctor like you Thanks for the inspiration Stay healthy Edit: It been 4 days nobody notice this comment yet =[

[@LoveOurTaekook]

My neck urges me to snap (slowly) with my head to both sides and it cracks exactly the same and it definitely releases my neck pressure (slight pain) but I do not know what exactly is happening inside there, only I feel I need to do it, hopefully it is not harmful, thanks for the great video as always

[@Brickswol]

All this time, I thought you were an MD.

[@schmonicasays]

THANK YOU FOR THIS!! I'm a DO student in Texas and people really need to know that there are not too many differences at all and that a DO is not the same thing as a chiropractor. Most importantly, DOs and MDs want to and have the same skills to provide the best care for their patients!

[@bruceleehiiiyaaa]

but...its objectively easier to get into a DO school.

[@bruceleehiiiyaaa]

@Nemo Nai , actually I have tried and successfully graduated from MD school. The most competitive applicants will always go MD..dont fool yourself.

[@Buttlather]

@@bruceleehiiiyaaa , no, not always. You would be surprised. People have many reasons for their choices, from cost to location. As the degree distinction becomes less relevant for careers, these other factors (location, cost, spouse) become bigger deciding factors.

[@PhoenixRoseYT]

bruceleehiiiyaaa you sound like one of those little snots who still hangs onto their GPA and MCAT scores, assuming you’re not lying about yourself. Even then I’d never want to be your patient.

[@bruceleehiiiyaaa]

@@PhoenixRoseYT you guys are all so butthurt lmao. if you guys think a DO is equally competitive for the higher end specialities like ortho, derm , neurosurg, IR, rads, etc. you are fooling yourself. with the ACGME/AOA merger coming up for residency spots, i look forward to it being standardizes so we can fill all those spots with the best candidates (and if i had to bet, it would be on US trained MDs)

[@bay3282]

She looks like a doll! I thought lie there was a manikin until I see its eyes are blinking.

[@americanexpress888]

MD will say they are different , DO will say they are the same. LOL

[@justtoolit6051]

False

[@accidentalGamer69]

Old days: An apple a day keeps the doctor away New Days: A chest compression a day keeps doctor Mike away 🙄

[@adib3049]

😂😂

[@fluffysenpai3310]

I felt my heart jump to space for a sec when he snapped her neck.

[@tynnarose]

My eyes goes 😲

[@debbiewhite3602]

My "family doctor" is a Nurse Practitioner and I love her. I've never had an MD tell be to take supplements before. She told me to take CO-Q-10 to help with my heart issues (FYI I still have a Cardiologist)

[@horsegirly5]

Thanks for this clear and concise explanation! My grandfather, Dr. Philip Greenman, was a well known DO who did a lot to increase the credibility and acceptance of osteopaths. He also created many of the OMT techniques and principles that you use. Thanks for continuing on his legacy of quality holistic medical care and spreading awareness of the field.

[@iSalameee]

I'm currently a nurse, can you do a video on the difference between D.O and N.P, as a nurse we focus on holistic care and preventative measures with also a huge emphasis on the bedside manners of our patients.

[@NO1xANIMExFAN]

DOs are physicians, NPs are mid levels. The training and schooling is different completely

[@liquidsnake6879]

This is bizarre, there's a reason why osteopaths aren't medical doctors because they do not practice a science, nothing about osteopathy or what you call "manipulation of the musculoskeletal system" is backed up by any science at all and many orthopedists swear that it can only do harm. So the US system is bizarre that it somehow forces them to learn skills that they would not not practice in their primary trade if they decide to go down the osteopathy route, and additionally grants them accreditation in something that isn't a science and is not explained, understood or reproducible by any scientific study. In the US a DO is just a doctor that for whatever reason gets the training of an osteopath tacked on to his far more useful and scientific MD learnings. Just seems like an odd mixture that's unnecessary and bizarre if you wanna be an osteopath knowledge of the remaining MD topics is somewhat useless, if you wanna be an MD you don't need to perform "manipulation of the musculoskeletal system" and probably wouldn't be advised to since again it's not a science. So i'm confused as to why any country would merge both of these things, especially since Wikipedia says as i suspects that most DOs don't practice osteopathy rendering that whole part of their training pointless and making it a weird long way around becoming a regular MD other than the bar i guess being slightly lower, i see no reason why anyone would go into DO training just to come out doing the job of a regular MD

[@belladigioia]

I went on a tour of an osteopathic medical school and fell in love. I was able to see students practicing OMT and also see state of the art technology used to train students. Becoming a DO is definitely one of my bigger career paths but I still am unsure of what route I want to take. This video was great!

[@jeffree123]

I work with MD and DO doctors but I never knew the differences.

[@JonPattyCake]

Where do you get your scrubs. 10/10

[@ryanwang4495]

Thank you for representing DO's!! You rock!!

[@louisbourbon8973]

Lots of Navy docs are DO's.

[@jamesamundsen7470]

How does it differ from what chiropractic people do? So if it's been already asked.

[@CLOUDKID11]

They are medically trained like MDs and chiropractors are not.

[@jamesamundsen7470]

@@CLOUDKID11 thank you. It's obvious now.

[@cmonn0w]

@@CLOUDKID11 this comment didn't explain anything.

[@Faradeth1111]

@@CLOUDKID11 funny fact chiropractors in europe are medicaly trained like mds :D

[@CottageLayout]

Chiropractors only do back and neck cracking. DO’s learn medicine, just the same as MD’s, and we train in the same hospitals and work in the same specialties, like pediatrics, OBGYN, and surgery. You just also happen to learn about chiropractic manipulation during school in addition to learning real medicine.

[@beautybydestiny6599]

Thanks for making Sundays even better!!! ❤❤

[@mandarina001]

Thank you so much for doing this video. As European I had no idea that in the United States osteopaths were actual doctors, since in my country (Spain) they certainly are not. Now I feel like it's really unfair that D.O.s aren't allowed to practice medicine in Spain, they could perfectly pass the validation exam. Now I can explain my friends the difference betwen an European osteopath and an American Doctor in Osteopathic Medicine.

[@hbl142]

I started DO school as a second career when I was 36. As a NYC paramedic my favorite ER was one which was all DO run. I didn't even know what a DO was at the time but they impressed me so much I only applied to the school they all went to, NYCOM now NYITCOM. I've been an ED attending now for 8 years and very happy. Liked your video, Dr. Mike.

[@angelnguyen6533]

Can you please do a video on what Physicians assistants do?

[@DoctorMike]

Surely!

[@ashleyrose8814]

For one, they're not MDs or DOs obv and don't work the same hours even. They can't perform surgeries. They don't go through residency. They're glorified nurses pretty much.

[@angelnguyen6533]

I just want more information on what they do... he said yes which means he has a good idea of what they do and most likely works with some.

[@peterchoi6087]

Can I add on to this? A really good video would be NPs vs MD/DOs vs PAs. A ton of pros and cons to compare and contrast. Would be helpful for a lot of people who are either prospective health students or just informing the public in general.

[@ak8990]

Wow, PAs are not glorified nurses. We diagnosis and treat patients as well. However, we work under the supervision of a physician, which means if we encounter something we haven't seen before or not sure where to go, we call them and talk to them. We are can practice in any field of medicine, but usually you will find the majority of it us in urgent care and family practice. Actually PAs are involved in surgeries, they work along side the MD. I know quite a few surgical PAs. Its true however that we do not have the same depth of medical knowledge that a MD or DO has. Our purpose is to help provide more patient care, especially because there is not enough doctors to go around, not take the place of an MD or DO. And we are quite aware of our limitations (or should be, the good PAs and NPs stay aware of their limitations), but there is still a lot that we can do.

[@WillieFordham]

Actually, the two of them coming together and having residency is not a good thing. Because it allows for the algorithm and the people who believe MD is better to perpetuate it. There’s a reason why DOs aren’t in the specialties at the same number as MD.

[@Linase]

I just made an appointment with a DO, but I never heard of one before so I wasn’t sure. I’m glad to hear they are the same as an MD! And it’s interesting that they have that holistic approach, I actually like that. I don’t like doctors who don’t spend time talking to you and just assign medicine without even caring/remembering your current medical problems. Since a DO cares about the whole body, I imagine he will take everything into account. The DO I made an appointment with has such good reviews too I’m really looking forward to my appointment now. Thank you for the video!

[@spandugowda6749]

After md we can do surgery

[@RideBound]

​@@spandugowda6749 Many DOs become surgeons

[@David-vu1xq]

I'm curious as to how it is MORE competitive to get into DO? When it comes to accepted applicants, sure, there is a lower acceptance rate. But if you take the same individual with above-average stats, it is much easier for that individual to get into DO over MD.

[@hrganthew3917]

Having two sons that are doctors (one a dpm and one a md) I can tell you it is much harder to get into medical school as opposed to D.O. school. A lot of applicants that didn’t have the undergrad gpa or mcat to get into medical school then apply to D.O. school. Those are straight facts. I’m sure some choose d.o. school first though.

[@brownuncle7180]

hr ganthew Like me. Got into both MD and DO. Picked DO, because it’s a family legacy. But the consequence of this decision is I will be generalized with people who had the lower grades. Despite being one of the brightest students during high school and undergrad, I now face this generalization. I’m still taking it in a positive manner and am accepting the consequences of a decision that I made. I’m involved with student activism much more than undergrad for raising professional awareness.

[@gravityclarity]

@@hrganthew3917 incorrect. A lot of D.O. students choose that path rather than M.D. because they like it. I think it's harder to get into osteopathic schools because a lot of them also require experience in osteopathic medicine to get in, which really makes no sense and is one of the reasons I applied to fewer osteopathic schools. My scores weren't even that competitive, but MD programs still saw something special about me because I got more interviews at allopathic medical schools than I did osteopathic. I didn't care whether I got into an allopathic or osteopathic school--I was going to go wherever I got in. One of my classmates got into Cornell medical school and chose to go to our osteopathic school instead. Your experience or your sons' experiences are yours and theirs alone. As a D.O. student, I find that it's more difficult because in addition to everything you learn in allopathic medical schools, you also learn OMT. Most of us also take both COMLEX and USMLE. We learn more and sit for twice as many exams. This whole superiority complex some allopaths have really needs to stop. One isn't better than the other. Both are still competitive to get into.🤦🏽‍♀️

[@michaelcrane1215]

Until the 1950s osteopaths could not prescribe medicines or do surgery. They were basically limited to manipulation similar to chiropractors. Also osteopaths like to refer to themselves as “holistic“. That term was first coined by the American Board of Family Practice. It just means as you would expect that the family practitioner, or a general practitioner, or pediatrician, or internist are interested in taking care of all the problems that a patient may have including their families. However that does not mean that they can take care of all the problems a patient has. And this is where specialists come in. If you have to have heart surgery or brain surgery or a joint replaced you don’t want a general practitioner doing the surgery. So osteopaths try to capitalize on the term “holistic“ to make it sound like they are superior in patient care which is not correct at all. They are not. It is basically self aggrandizement.

[@donaldlewis567]

As a D.O. myself, it is always nice to see videos like this. I only went to D.O.s growing up, so I thought D.O. stood for doctor and I had no idea what an M.D. was when I was a kid. I went to PCOM and became a D.O. and decided to do an allopathic residency in psychiatry. I don't utilize any manipulation in my practice - neither did my family docs growing up, so it wasn't anything I was interested in, but it was fun to learn. I would say most D.O.s do not use any manipulation techniques in their practice, but we all emphasize the holistic approach to medicine.

[@DoctorMike]

Thanks for the support Dr. Lewis! Always nice to have a fellow D.O. in the comment section!

[@ibtihadjla1782]

Sounds like your systeme is totaly différent then the French systeme ! I wanna know how many years you study ! Because for us it’s 7 years to become a general médecin then 4 to 5 years to specialize ! ( I ve always wondered what does do means thanks for the explanation )

[@Skywalker-zu7od]

Donald Lewis Why did you decide not to include manipulation in your practice if it is something Dr. Mike believes helps his patients over and above what non-DO physicians offer?

[@donaldlewis567]

I did an allopathic (MD) residency since I wanted to be by my brother. Therefore did not learn any manipulation specific to my psychiatry residency. We don't lay many hands on the patients in my specialty :)

[@dollbaby_0079]

My husband is in his second year of DO school at PCOM! He loves it!